October 16, 2025 • 13 mins
In his October 2009 deposition, taken during the Jeffrey Epstein v. Bradley Edwards defamation lawsuit, longtime Epstein pilot Larry Visoski described his decades of employment under Epstein and the routine nature of his work. Questioned by victims’ attorney Bradley Edwards, Visoski confirmed that he had flown Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and numerous guests—some of them prominent figures—across Epstein’s properties in New York, Florida, New Mexico, and the Virgin Islands. Represented by Critton & Reinhardt, Visoski repeatedly emphasized that his duties were strictly professional: piloting aircraft, maintaining schedules, and ensuring safe transport. When pressed about the ages of female passengers, he claimed he never knowingly flew minors and denied witnessing any sexual activity or misconduct aboard Epstein’s planes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
the Larry Vassoski deposition that he gave in two thousand
and nine. Brad Edwards is asking the questions and Vasoski
is doing the answering. Question all right upon information and belief?
(00:21):
Ever flown to or from in a Jeffrey Epstein airplane?
Answer we have flown to Prague? Question Okay, have you
picked people up in Prague and flown out a Prague? Answer?
I don't remember. Question. I'm not saying no, you didn't,
but answer best of my knowledge? Question you don't remember?
Answer exactly, best of my knowledge, I don't remember. Question
(00:44):
do you remember the reason for going to Turkey or
to Prague? Answer no question. This also says Asia. Have
you ever flown from or to Asia with Jeffrey Epstein?
Answer yes, question or on a Jeffrey Epstein airplane? Answer yes? Question.
Do you know the purpose of those flights to and
from Asia? Answer no question? Did it ever occur to
(01:06):
you that maybe it was to pick up minor girls
for him to have sex with in the back of
the plane. To that criten objects form Vasoski never occurred
to me. Question by Edwards? Did you ever hear that
he maintained some of these underage girls as sex slaves? Answer?
Never heard of such a thing. Question from the age
(01:26):
of twelve through the age of sixteen? Criton once again
objects form Vasoski. No knowledge of that. Brad Edwards ever
picked up girls that looked young, many of whom spoke
no English. Do you ever remember that? Answer zero? Do not?
Question all right. The complaint goes on to say plaintiff
was required to be sexually exploited by defendants adult mel peers,
(01:49):
including royalty. So I'm going to talk. Are you familiar
with Prince Andrew? Answer? I know who he is. Question
do you remember him on the airplane with young girls?
Answer no, I do not. Question do you remember Jeffrey
Epstein flying in to meet with Prince Andrew? Answer I
don't remember. I know that happened, but I couldn't be accurate.
(02:11):
Question has Prince Andrew ever been on the airplane at
the same time as a young girl to the best
of your memory and knowledge? Answer to the best of
my knowledge. No question. This also says politicians talking about
local or US politicians, do you remember certain politicians being
on the airplane? Answer no, I mean yes, I do.
Question what politicians would that be? Answer President Clinton? Question okay,
(02:37):
who else? Answer former President of Israel helped me out
with the name here Barack. Question edwood Barock. Answer yes,
those are the two I remember. Question how many times
was edwood Barock on the airplane that you piloted for
mister Epstein? Answer maybe once? Question and where did that
flight pick up and where did it go? To the
(02:59):
best of your memory? Answer to the best of my memory,
it was Palm Beach to Teterborough answer in New Jersey.
Question yeah, and that was the purpose of the flight?
Do you know? Answer I don't know. Question was Jeffrey
Epstein on the flight? Bososki, I'd have to look at
the flight logs to guarantee. Question anything about that flight
(03:20):
that sticks out in your mind? Answer nothing. Question such
as a fine needing to be paid because it left
after ten pm? Answer for that was the flight? Yes,
question you remember that? Answer it's coming back to me.
Question and do you remember young girls being on that flight?
Answer no? Question all right, answer I remember the fine.
(03:42):
Question do you remember who paid the fine to this
krit and objects hold on. Let me object the form
of the question. Do you remember it suggests that there
were so form predicate question Do you remember who else
was on that flight that left after ten pm? Answer no,
I do not. Question do you remember why it left
after ten pm? Answer no, I do not. Question. Do
(04:05):
you remember Jeffrey Epstein instructing you to wait until after
ten pm? To leave? Answer no. Question would you have
listened to him if he had told you? If he
had instructed you to do that? Answer I don't understand
the question. Question well, if he told you to wait
until after ten pm, I realize there is going to
be a fine, but wait until after ten pm to leave?
(04:26):
Intentionally leaving after ten pm? Do you remember that instruction?
Answer no, I don't remember that instruction. Question Okay, answer
I mean it just happened to be departing after ten
and there is a penalty for leaving after ten for noise,
so there was no intention. Question all right. This also
talks about this particular person fifteen years old being sexually
(04:49):
exploited by a businessman and or other professional or personal acquaintances.
Are you aware of other personal or professional acquaintances of
Jeffrey Epstein also sexually abuse, using or exploiting little kids
or underage girls on your airplane to that critten objects
again form Bysoski. No, Edwards, if you had been aware
(05:10):
that mister Epstein was and by this this is more
in the form of a hypothetical and that I'm not
going to suggest to you it's a fact that he was.
But if you had been aware that every single day
Epstein's goal was to locate underage girls for the purpose
of sex and either have sex with them on the
airplane or at some other designation that was your destination
(05:32):
that you were traveling him too, would you have continued
to pilot those planes criten form Vysoski. You said it
was hypothetical. Edwards, right, it's hypothetical. Answer. Why would I
want to answer that because you're being hypothetical, I mean,
it would obviously be wrong. Question. Sure, Well, a hypothetical
question is a legal question that I'm allowed to ask answer, Okay,
(05:55):
And I'm just asking you if you have knowledge that
Jeffrey Epstein was having sex with little girls, either on
the plane or at a place that you were taking
him to or from, on a daily basis, that's what
he did, would you have continued to be his pilot.
To that, Critin once again objects object to the form.
It's argumentative. It has no more value than assuming he
(06:17):
was chopping up bodies or anybody was chopping up bodies
in the plane you're flying. What difference does it make? Form?
And to that, Bret Edwards responds, what difference does it
make in a case about him having sex with little girls?
I'm not going to argue with you about it. You've
stated your objection, Critten, exactly, it's an argumentative question, Edwards,
(06:38):
I'm not going to argue with you about it. Critin,
you're arguing with him about it now, Edwards, No, I'm
asking him hypothetical. Edwards, can you answer that? Would you
have continued to be a pilot for someone who's traveling
to and from destinations with a goal of having sex
with underage girls? Criton once again objects form Vesoski It
(06:59):
could be any person. It doesn't have to be Jeffrey Epstein.
Then right question true answer, No, I wouldn't pilot an
aeroplane if there was wrongdoing going on. Question that you
knew about? Answer that I knew about? Sure, question me
reading this complaint to you, is this the first time
that you've heard these allegations? Answer yes. Question against Epstein,
(07:20):
answer yes. Question. It goes on to say, on one
of Epstein's birthday, a friend of Epstein sent them three
twelve year old girls from France who spoke no English
for the purpose of defendants actually exploiting them and abuse.
After doing so, they were sent back to France the
next day. Are you familiar with that occasion? To that,
Criten once again objects form Vesoski responds, never heard of
(07:44):
such a thing. Question do you know of any friends
that he has in France that would send him birthday
a birthday present? Answer no. Question. Do you know of
him receiving any birthday gifts or birthday people from anyone?
Answer never. Question This particular person that filed his complaint,
Jane do one oh two, indicates defendant and Glenn Maxwell
(08:05):
acknowledged and celebrated plaintiff's sixteenth birthday. Do you remember them
celebrating someone who flew on the plane for their sixteenth birthday?
I don't recall. Question any of this. Jog your memory
as to who Virginia Roberts is. Answer no. Question from
the age of fifteen of plaintiff, this Jane do two
was sectually exploited and abused by defendant on a daily basis,
(08:28):
and often multiple times each day. So going back, was
there ever a day where you were with Jeffrey Epstein
where you could have observed them and Virginia Roberts during
the entire trip? Mister Critten objects to form Bososki. I
don't remember Virginia Roberts, though I couldn't answer the question.
Brad Edwards. In September of two thousand and two, defended
(08:50):
Epstein purchased a commercial round trip airline ticket and provided
a passport, US currency and accommodations for plaintiff to fly
to Thailand. Do you remember him doing that for anybody
around that time period? Answer no, sir Critton. What was
the date to that? Edwards respond, September two thousand and two. Critten, Okay,
thanks Edwards. I have here, and this is the actual,
(09:14):
my only copy, so I don't mind marking it as
a composite exhibit. But we'll either have to copy this
whole thing or we'll have an agreement of council. It's
the visitor inmate log from when mister Epstein was in
jail in Palm Beach. Mister Critten, well, before we get started.
It's now one point fifteen. We started at ten, Brad Edwards,
we didn't really start at ten. Critton shortly thereafter. I
(09:38):
was here pretty much after ten, but we've been here
since ten. I want to take a lunch break, Brad Edwards, Okay,
let's do it Critten for an hour. Edward. Sure. So
they have their lunch break, then they come back. Question
all right. I look through the inmate log of the
visitors who visited Jeffrey Epstein, and your name appears one, two, three, four, five, six,
(09:58):
seven eight times. Answer okay. Questions seemed to be accurate
in terms of how many times he went to visit them.
Answer I thought six. But yeah, that's accurate. Question. I'll
let you review the records and tell me if you
dispute any of that record, and then I'll go ahead
and mark that as a composite Exhibit five. Rein Hart.
It's two pages. Edward's two pages. Rein Hart. Okay, Edwards,
(10:22):
question seem accurate? Answer, yes, question okay. Jeffrey Epstein's plea
I believe was June thirtieth, two thousand and eight. I
think that's when he was taken in custody. From there.
Your first visit is July third, two thousand and eight,
and the other name on that visit is Igor Zenoviev.
Did you go with Igor to visit Jeffrey? Answer yes.
(10:44):
Question why did you go with Igor? Answer? It just happened.
He wanted to see us both at the same time.
There was no apparent reason. Question how did you know
that Jeffrey wanted to see you? Answer? I don't recall
who called me and told me that he wanted to
see me. I couldn't give you an accurate name whether
it was you know, his attorney, Darren, And actually I
would put a lot of weight to think it was
(11:05):
Darren his attorney. Question that would have made a phone
call to you that he said? Answer yeah to go.
Question and what did you talk about with Jeffrey Epstein
four days after he played guilty to offenses that landed
him in jail. Answer? I think the first visit was
how disappointed or how scared he was, you know, being
inside there, and we just talked about general happenings to
(11:28):
go on in there. Question what did he say? Answer
it's terrible, it's cold, he can't sleep. They wake him
up every two hours, you know, just items like that,
uncomfortable things. We talked about the airplanes a great deal.
You know, we got major maintenance on the big airplane,
so we discussed that a little bit, and then it
was really just how uncomfortable he was in there? Question
(11:50):
how long did you visit him on that first visit July?
Third question, I think we stayed the full hour? Question
all right, is that what the time allotment was? Answer?
I believe it is. Yeah. I don't think you could
leave early or I'm not aware that you could leave early.
Until later on we found out you could stay four
or five minutes or longer. But I don't think any
of us knew that once we got in there. You
(12:11):
stayed there for the hour. Question Okay, so you talked
to him for an hour and for the most part
it was just about the conditions and his disappointment with
the conditions. Answer sure, yeah, absolutely. Question and did Igor
talk to him as well? Answer briefly, I mean not
that much. You're going back a little ways again to
remember exactly what was discussed. You know, he asked him
(12:34):
how his family was doing. I guess Igor has got
a son. I think he asked how his son was doing.
You know, just general questions like that question did you
ride to the jail that day with Igor? Answer? I
believe we did. I believe I met Igor probably at
Jeffrey's house and picked him up, or if not, we
may have met at the airport and drove together. But
(12:54):
we did drive together on that occasion. Question in what
vehicle did you drive? Answer the Hummer that's the vehicle
you described earlier as the company vehicle. Answer yes, sir.
Question is that a vehicle paid for by Jeffrey Epstein?
Answer meaning question well, is it a vehicle paid for
by you? Answer? What do you mean paid for? Question?
(13:15):
Did you purchase the vehicle with your money? Answer? I
didn't purchase that one. No question do you know if
it was purchased by Jeffrey Epstein or a corporation of
Jeffrey Epstein's answer probably a corporation. And to that, once again,
Critten objects form move to strike sounds like a guess.
(13:35):
All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here, and
in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna
pick up where we left off. All of the information
that goes with this episode can be found in the
description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
the Larry Vassoski deposition that he gave in two thousand
and nine. Brad Edwards is asking the questions and Vasoski
is doing the answering. Question all right upon information and belief?
(00:21):
Ever flown to or from in a Jeffrey Epstein airplane?
Answer we have flown to Prague? Question Okay, have you
picked people up in Prague and flown out a Prague? Answer?
I don't remember. Question. I'm not saying no, you didn't,
but answer best of my knowledge? Question you don't remember?
Answer exactly, best of my knowledge, I don't remember. Question
(00:44):
do you remember the reason for going to Turkey or
to Prague? Answer no question. This also says Asia. Have
you ever flown from or to Asia with Jeffrey Epstein?
Answer yes, question or on a Jeffrey Epstein airplane? Answer yes? Question.
Do you know the purpose of those flights to and
from Asia? Answer no question? Did it ever occur to
(01:06):
you that maybe it was to pick up minor girls
for him to have sex with in the back of
the plane. To that criten objects form Vasoski never occurred
to me. Question by Edwards? Did you ever hear that
he maintained some of these underage girls as sex slaves? Answer?
Never heard of such a thing. Question from the age
(01:26):
of twelve through the age of sixteen? Criton once again
objects form Vasoski. No knowledge of that. Brad Edwards ever
picked up girls that looked young, many of whom spoke
no English. Do you ever remember that? Answer zero? Do not?
Question all right. The complaint goes on to say plaintiff
was required to be sexually exploited by defendants adult mel peers,
(01:49):
including royalty. So I'm going to talk. Are you familiar
with Prince Andrew? Answer? I know who he is. Question
do you remember him on the airplane with young girls?
Answer no, I do not. Question do you remember Jeffrey
Epstein flying in to meet with Prince Andrew? Answer I
don't remember. I know that happened, but I couldn't be accurate.
(02:11):
Question has Prince Andrew ever been on the airplane at
the same time as a young girl to the best
of your memory and knowledge? Answer to the best of
my knowledge. No question. This also says politicians talking about
local or US politicians, do you remember certain politicians being
on the airplane? Answer no, I mean yes, I do.
Question what politicians would that be? Answer President Clinton? Question okay,
(02:37):
who else? Answer former President of Israel helped me out
with the name here Barack. Question edwood Barock. Answer yes,
those are the two I remember. Question how many times
was edwood Barock on the airplane that you piloted for
mister Epstein? Answer maybe once? Question and where did that
flight pick up and where did it go? To the
(02:59):
best of your memory? Answer to the best of my memory,
it was Palm Beach to Teterborough answer in New Jersey.
Question yeah, and that was the purpose of the flight?
Do you know? Answer I don't know. Question was Jeffrey
Epstein on the flight? Bososki, I'd have to look at
the flight logs to guarantee. Question anything about that flight
(03:20):
that sticks out in your mind? Answer nothing. Question such
as a fine needing to be paid because it left
after ten pm? Answer for that was the flight? Yes,
question you remember that? Answer it's coming back to me.
Question and do you remember young girls being on that flight?
Answer no? Question all right, answer I remember the fine.
(03:42):
Question do you remember who paid the fine to this
krit and objects hold on. Let me object the form
of the question. Do you remember it suggests that there
were so form predicate question Do you remember who else
was on that flight that left after ten pm? Answer no,
I do not. Question do you remember why it left
after ten pm? Answer no, I do not. Question. Do
(04:05):
you remember Jeffrey Epstein instructing you to wait until after
ten pm? To leave? Answer no. Question would you have
listened to him if he had told you? If he
had instructed you to do that? Answer I don't understand
the question. Question well, if he told you to wait
until after ten pm, I realize there is going to
be a fine, but wait until after ten pm to leave?
(04:26):
Intentionally leaving after ten pm? Do you remember that instruction?
Answer no, I don't remember that instruction. Question Okay, answer
I mean it just happened to be departing after ten
and there is a penalty for leaving after ten for noise,
so there was no intention. Question all right. This also
talks about this particular person fifteen years old being sexually
(04:49):
exploited by a businessman and or other professional or personal acquaintances.
Are you aware of other personal or professional acquaintances of
Jeffrey Epstein also sexually abuse, using or exploiting little kids
or underage girls on your airplane to that critten objects
again form Bysoski. No, Edwards, if you had been aware
(05:10):
that mister Epstein was and by this this is more
in the form of a hypothetical and that I'm not
going to suggest to you it's a fact that he was.
But if you had been aware that every single day
Epstein's goal was to locate underage girls for the purpose
of sex and either have sex with them on the
airplane or at some other designation that was your destination
(05:32):
that you were traveling him too, would you have continued
to pilot those planes criten form Vysoski. You said it
was hypothetical. Edwards, right, it's hypothetical. Answer. Why would I
want to answer that because you're being hypothetical, I mean,
it would obviously be wrong. Question. Sure, Well, a hypothetical
question is a legal question that I'm allowed to ask answer, Okay,
(05:55):
And I'm just asking you if you have knowledge that
Jeffrey Epstein was having sex with little girls, either on
the plane or at a place that you were taking
him to or from, on a daily basis, that's what
he did, would you have continued to be his pilot.
To that, Critin once again objects object to the form.
It's argumentative. It has no more value than assuming he
(06:17):
was chopping up bodies or anybody was chopping up bodies
in the plane you're flying. What difference does it make? Form?
And to that, Bret Edwards responds, what difference does it
make in a case about him having sex with little girls?
I'm not going to argue with you about it. You've
stated your objection, Critten, exactly, it's an argumentative question, Edwards,
(06:38):
I'm not going to argue with you about it. Critin,
you're arguing with him about it now, Edwards, No, I'm
asking him hypothetical. Edwards, can you answer that? Would you
have continued to be a pilot for someone who's traveling
to and from destinations with a goal of having sex
with underage girls? Criton once again objects form Vesoski It
(06:59):
could be any person. It doesn't have to be Jeffrey Epstein.
Then right question true answer, No, I wouldn't pilot an
aeroplane if there was wrongdoing going on. Question that you
knew about? Answer that I knew about? Sure, question me
reading this complaint to you, is this the first time
that you've heard these allegations? Answer yes. Question against Epstein,
(07:20):
answer yes. Question. It goes on to say, on one
of Epstein's birthday, a friend of Epstein sent them three
twelve year old girls from France who spoke no English
for the purpose of defendants actually exploiting them and abuse.
After doing so, they were sent back to France the
next day. Are you familiar with that occasion? To that,
Criten once again objects form Vesoski responds, never heard of
(07:44):
such a thing. Question do you know of any friends
that he has in France that would send him birthday
a birthday present? Answer no. Question. Do you know of
him receiving any birthday gifts or birthday people from anyone?
Answer never. Question This particular person that filed his complaint,
Jane do one oh two, indicates defendant and Glenn Maxwell
(08:05):
acknowledged and celebrated plaintiff's sixteenth birthday. Do you remember them
celebrating someone who flew on the plane for their sixteenth birthday?
I don't recall. Question any of this. Jog your memory
as to who Virginia Roberts is. Answer no. Question from
the age of fifteen of plaintiff, this Jane do two
was sectually exploited and abused by defendant on a daily basis,
(08:28):
and often multiple times each day. So going back, was
there ever a day where you were with Jeffrey Epstein
where you could have observed them and Virginia Roberts during
the entire trip? Mister Critten objects to form Bososki. I
don't remember Virginia Roberts, though I couldn't answer the question.
Brad Edwards. In September of two thousand and two, defended
(08:50):
Epstein purchased a commercial round trip airline ticket and provided
a passport, US currency and accommodations for plaintiff to fly
to Thailand. Do you remember him doing that for anybody
around that time period? Answer no, sir Critton. What was
the date to that? Edwards respond, September two thousand and two. Critten, Okay,
thanks Edwards. I have here, and this is the actual,
(09:14):
my only copy, so I don't mind marking it as
a composite exhibit. But we'll either have to copy this
whole thing or we'll have an agreement of council. It's
the visitor inmate log from when mister Epstein was in
jail in Palm Beach. Mister Critten, well, before we get started.
It's now one point fifteen. We started at ten, Brad Edwards,
we didn't really start at ten. Critton shortly thereafter. I
(09:38):
was here pretty much after ten, but we've been here
since ten. I want to take a lunch break, Brad Edwards, Okay,
let's do it Critten for an hour. Edward. Sure. So
they have their lunch break, then they come back. Question
all right. I look through the inmate log of the
visitors who visited Jeffrey Epstein, and your name appears one, two, three, four, five, six,
(09:58):
seven eight times. Answer okay. Questions seemed to be accurate
in terms of how many times he went to visit them.
Answer I thought six. But yeah, that's accurate. Question. I'll
let you review the records and tell me if you
dispute any of that record, and then I'll go ahead
and mark that as a composite Exhibit five. Rein Hart.
It's two pages. Edward's two pages. Rein Hart. Okay, Edwards,
(10:22):
question seem accurate? Answer, yes, question okay. Jeffrey Epstein's plea
I believe was June thirtieth, two thousand and eight. I
think that's when he was taken in custody. From there.
Your first visit is July third, two thousand and eight,
and the other name on that visit is Igor Zenoviev.
Did you go with Igor to visit Jeffrey? Answer yes.
(10:44):
Question why did you go with Igor? Answer? It just happened.
He wanted to see us both at the same time.
There was no apparent reason. Question how did you know
that Jeffrey wanted to see you? Answer? I don't recall
who called me and told me that he wanted to
see me. I couldn't give you an accurate name whether
it was you know, his attorney, Darren, And actually I
would put a lot of weight to think it was
(11:05):
Darren his attorney. Question that would have made a phone
call to you that he said? Answer yeah to go.
Question and what did you talk about with Jeffrey Epstein
four days after he played guilty to offenses that landed
him in jail. Answer? I think the first visit was
how disappointed or how scared he was, you know, being
inside there, and we just talked about general happenings to
(11:28):
go on in there. Question what did he say? Answer
it's terrible, it's cold, he can't sleep. They wake him
up every two hours, you know, just items like that,
uncomfortable things. We talked about the airplanes a great deal.
You know, we got major maintenance on the big airplane,
so we discussed that a little bit, and then it
was really just how uncomfortable he was in there? Question
(11:50):
how long did you visit him on that first visit July?
Third question, I think we stayed the full hour? Question
all right, is that what the time allotment was? Answer?
I believe it is. Yeah. I don't think you could
leave early or I'm not aware that you could leave early.
Until later on we found out you could stay four
or five minutes or longer. But I don't think any
of us knew that once we got in there. You
(12:11):
stayed there for the hour. Question Okay, so you talked
to him for an hour and for the most part
it was just about the conditions and his disappointment with
the conditions. Answer sure, yeah, absolutely. Question and did Igor
talk to him as well? Answer briefly, I mean not
that much. You're going back a little ways again to
remember exactly what was discussed. You know, he asked him
(12:34):
how his family was doing. I guess Igor has got
a son. I think he asked how his son was doing.
You know, just general questions like that question did you
ride to the jail that day with Igor? Answer? I
believe we did. I believe I met Igor probably at
Jeffrey's house and picked him up, or if not, we
may have met at the airport and drove together. But
(12:54):
we did drive together on that occasion. Question in what
vehicle did you drive? Answer the Hummer that's the vehicle
you described earlier as the company vehicle. Answer yes, sir.
Question is that a vehicle paid for by Jeffrey Epstein?
Answer meaning question well, is it a vehicle paid for
by you? Answer? What do you mean paid for? Question?
(13:15):
Did you purchase the vehicle with your money? Answer? I
didn't purchase that one. No question do you know if
it was purchased by Jeffrey Epstein or a corporation of
Jeffrey Epstein's answer probably a corporation. And to that, once again,
Critten objects form move to strike sounds like a guess.
(13:35):
All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here, and
in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna
pick up where we left off. All of the information
that goes with this episode can be found in the
description box.
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