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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we have a quick article
from Business Insider talking about Reid Hoffman, and as soon
as we finished the article up right after it, I'll
have a few closing statements about what I think about
this article and read Hoffman himself. So let's get right
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to it. Like I said, this article was published by
a Business Insider and the headline LinkedIn co founder Reid
Hoffman says he learned a lesson from a visit to
Epstein's Island. Note to self, Google before going Yeah, we
all believe that, buddy. This article was authored by Alice Takotski.
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LinkedIn co founder read Hoffman said he wishes he'd known
a little more before agreeing to spend the night on
Jeffrey Epstein's Island. A little bit different than just showing
up to the island, right, spending the night and you
found nothing creepy about what was going on? Huh okay.
On the December first episode of Eric Newcomers podcast, Hoffman
said that he visited the island as part of his
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fundraising work for the MIT Foundation and was told the
visit would make Epstein more likely to donate to MIT. Bro,
you have so much money, why do you need Epstein
to donate? And this is the excuse they use. And
I said I'd talk about it afterwards, but this is ridiculous,
so we have to talk about it now and then
I'll give you my closing monologue as well, because this
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is ridiculous. I mean, does this guy really think we're stupid?
He was just on this island. He didn't explore, he
didn't go and check anything out. He didn't hear anything,
he didn't see anything. He knows nothing. Okay, note to
self Google before going. Hoffman said on the podcast he
said he stayed on the island for one night, and
that there was a pool, a bunch of guest rooms,
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and a courtyard and no women. Huh. No Nadia Marsenkova,
no Sarah Kellen, no Virginia, no unnamed girls from Eastern Europe.
I call bullshit. Leave that for a second. Hoffman has
maintained that he only interacted with Epstein, who's twenty nineteen
deaths while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges was ruled
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to suicide, through his work fundraising for the MIT Media Lab.
On The Newcomer podcast. He called Epstein a masterful networker
and recalled to twenty fifteen dinner he hosted for an
MIT researcher in Palo Alto, California. Well, they were all
hanging out together, and Silicon Valley might be the worst
of the worst. These people, Peter teel Uh, the other guy,
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what's his name, Lucky Palmer. There's a whole lot of
these people that really give me the willies. And these
are the new masters of the universe. And we're all
over here worrying about nineteen eighty four becoming a reality.
But while we were worrying about that, these rotten bastards
flipped the script and now it's like a brave new world.
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Hoffman said that joy Eto, former director of the MIT
Media Lab, asked Tim if Epstein could attend the dinner,
which was also attended by Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg and
Tesla CEO Elon Musk, similar to his visit to the island.
Hoffman said he was later told that the financier had
said he was more likely to donate if he attended
the dinner. So again, it's all about the money. We're
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talking about. Somebody who was already a registered sex offender
in twenty fifteen, so reied Hoffman can save the bullshit.
Everybody knew what Jeffrey Epstein was and what he was
up to, and I know it sounds like a broken
record at this point, but it has to be said again.
I guess he's kind of going through the network trying
to meet people and so forth, Hoffman said on the podcast.
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Hoffman also reiterated previous apologies for his involvement with Epstein.
In twenty nineteen, a spokesperson for Zuckerberg confirmed the dinner
to Business Insider and said it was the only time
the Facebook co founder met Epstein. A spokesperson from Musk
also confirmed the Tesla CEO's attendance, and there's a lot
of other meetings and events that Elon Musk was at
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with Jeffrey Epstein, and he still hasn't answered for any
of that. In a twenty nineteen email to Axios, Hoffman
acknowledged multiple interactions with Epstein, which he said worse strictly
for fundraising purposes, and said he had been told MIT
had vetted and approved the convicted sex offenders participation. He
said in the email he was deeply regretful of the involvement.
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I mean that really strange credulity. You're one of the
rich men in the world and you don't google who
you're dealing with. Nobody says to you, Hey, reed, this
guy's a little bit odd. Bro. He was busted for
so and so. I don't believe that for a second,
because I know that when I've been invited onto podcasts,
people have reached out to me and said, hey, do
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you know about so and so or blah blah blah,
or I've looked at you know, their content or whatever
and said to myself, Yeah, that's not for me. Not
that difficult. Right. You don't have to put yourself in
a situation where you're associating with somebody you don't want
to be associating with, especially when you have the kind
of money that Read Hoffman has. Do they really need
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Jeffrey Epstein's donations? I went and kind of made a,
you know, very public apology because it was like, Okay,
I realized this, and I'd already at that point had
ramped down connection with them, right, So, like no meetings
and all the rest of the stuff under any context,
Hoffman said on the podcast, And I think he still
would drop me an email every so often and say hey,
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can we get on the phone. I say, oh, maybe sometime,
which is you know, code for never, right, No, I
don't know that never means never. Maybe means sometime and
it means maybe. Don't try and parts words and tell
me what I know and what I don't know, read Hoffman.
Hoffman said the justice for the late pedophiles survivors is
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important and urged the government to release, unreadacted, every single
piece of intel that they have about Epstein. In November,
President Donald Trump signed a bill that will release the
Department of Justice file on Epstein after months of pressure
from Congress, including some fellow Republicans. The Department has until Saturday,
December nineteenth to comply with the order. I have my doubts.
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I have my doubts about that. But we'll wait and see.
I don't want to be one of those black pill people,
so we'll wait and see what happens on the nineteenth.
But I will tell you this, I have my doubts.
Trump has also ordered the DOJ to investigate Hoffmann, along
with other individuals he views as political enemies, including former
President Bill Clinton and former Treasury Secretary Larry summers over
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their ties to Epstein. Well, he has the right idea
as far as the people, but the motivations all bad.
And that's how you end up getting a prosecution to
be doa. And maybe that's Trump's whole entire purpose, right,
talk all this shit and make these cases impossible to prosecute. Hoffman,
a billionaire and major Democratic donor, has previously said that
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he had the higher security after musk fuel conspiracy theories
about his relationship with Epstein. All right, so that's the article.
Here's my opinion about all of it. Imagine being a
billionaire like read Hoffman and expecting people to take I
didn't know it faced value. That might work for a
guy who lives off coupons, not someone embedded in the
most information rich social class on Earth. Hoffman didn't clause
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his way to the top of Silicon Valley by being oblivious.
He made his fortune by understanding people, incentives, and networks.
He built an empire on mapping relationships and leveraging proximity.
So when he suddenly becomes incurious, the performance rings hollow.
The richest men in the world don't lack information. They
outsourced discomfort, and Epstein was discomfort incarnate. Read Hoffman is
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the textbook not me, a billionaire, the kind who always
has a prefabricated excuse ready. It's never denial outright, just
soft deflection wrapped in reasonableness. He speaks in calibrated ambiguity,
the language of people who fear specifics. Every statement feels
engineered to be technically true while practically useless. The goal
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is in clarity. It's survivability. That's how power communicates when
it doesn't want to confess or confront. Epstein thrived exactly
in this kind of fog. Let's be explicit and responsible,
because the distinction matters. There's no evidence Read Hoffman participated
in abuse. The public record does not accuse him of crimes.
Saying that clearly is not charity. It's accuracy. But accuracy
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doesn't mean absolution. No one ends their responsibility at not
criminally charged. The Epstein story is not just about perpetrators.
It's about enablers, shields and silencers. It's about who tolerated
what and when. That's the conversation Hoffman can't dodge. Hoffman
has acknowledged knowing Jeffrey Epstein. He acknowledged traveling to Epstein's island.
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Those aren't rumors or hostile interpretations. Those are admissions. Once
those facts are on the table, the conversationation changes permanently.
This is no longer about whether they cross paths. It's
about how deliberate those paths were. Little Saint James was
not a neutral venue or a casual hangout. It was
already infamous long before the world pretended to notice. You
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don't visit that island without hearing things unless you actively
choose not to listen. And inevitably, the defense always circles
back to timing, because timing is the last refuge of
the cornered elite. I didn't know then is treated like
an escape patch, as if Epstein's crimes manifested suddenly in
a single news cycle. Survivors were speaking years before journalists
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were brave enough to amplify them. Law enforcement knew far
more than it acted on wealthy circles whisper earlier, not later.
Claiming ignorance requires believing that the wealthiest social tier was
the least informed. That is the opposite of how power
works read. Hoffmann's entire professional identity is built on understanding
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networks LinkedIn itself is a monument to relational awareness. Context,
proximity and information flow are the currency he monetized that
makes selective blindness incredibly difficult to believe. You can't be
hyper literate and human connection while socially illiterate in elite circles.
Epstein didn't move invisibly through high society. He was discussed,
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warned about, joked about, and quietly avoided by some. Choosing
not to hear is not the same as not knowing.
Billionaires left to cite busyness as an alibi. Too busy
to pay attention, too busy to notice red flags, too
busy to ask follow up questions, yet never too busy
to accept invitations that benefit them, never too busy to
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board private jets or attend exclusive gatherings. There are time scarcity, somehow,
only applies to moral curiosity. It's not by accident. Epstein
counted on that exact hierarchy of concern, and it served
them well for decades. The island detailed does not go away,
no matter how carefully it's contextualized. You don't accidentally end
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up on Little Saint James. It's not a layover destination
or a happy coincidence. It requires invitation, transportation, and consent.
Each step involves awareness. Each step carries implicit endorsement. Pretending
it was just another stop stretches credibility beyond repair. Geography
matters when crimes cluster around the location. And we all
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know that Epstein curated a social circle with precision. Everyone
who visited was a signal to everyone else. Smart people
conferred legitimacy. Cautious people provided insulation. Well known names discourage scrutiny.
That wasn't random socializing, it was strategic placement. Epstein's access
depended on the presence of the powerful. He built a
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moat out of reputation. People like read Hoffman were bricks
in that wall, whether they intended to be or not.
Intent does an erase effect, and the question has matured
past childish framing. It's no longer did Read Hoffman, no
Jeffrey Epstein. That question has been answered. The meaningful question
is depth and duration, How often, how close, and under
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what circumstances. Relationships are patterns not snapshots. Every continued association
after new information emerges is a decision. Silence after suspicion
is also a choice. Choices accumulate consequences, whether acknowledged or not.
Hoffmann's public statements rely heavily on narrow constructions. They are
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carefully worded, legally cautious, and emotionally neutral. This is the
tone of someone answering the safest possible question. It avoids
grappling with uncomfortable implications. What did you hear? What did
you dismiss? What did you rationalize a way? These are
not legal questions, but they are historical ones, and history
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is less forgiving than the courts. Elite culture specializes implausible deniability.
Everyone knows just enough to maintain distance and just little
enough to deny a responsibility. Epstein exploited that culture mercilessly.
He didn't need universal ignorance, he needed selective disbelief. He
needed powerful people who would not ask inconvenient questions, not
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because they were evil, but because they were comfortable. Comfort
is a real accomplice in most large scale abuses. And look,
let's be real. The tech elite love disruption until disruption
threatens them. Then all of a sudden, stability becomes sacred.
Questions are reframed as hysterias, Scrutiny becomes persecution. Patterns are
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dismissed as coincidence. Epstein operated comfortably in that protective field.
He depended on it. He was insulated by the reputations
of others, and those reputations did real work on his behalf. Look,
no one's demanding a confession or a scarlet letter. What's
being demanded is honesty without choreography. Stop hiding behind steril phrasing.
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Stop pretending the air was clean. Acknowledged discomfort existed and
was ignored. That admission costs nothing now. Refusal, on the
other hand, deepens sustain Silence always compounds over time. Survivors
understand this dynamic. Intimately, they were disbelieved, not because evidence
didn't exist, but because disbelief was easier. Powerful acquaintances may
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doubt respectable. Respectability is a powerful shield, and Epstein wore
like armor. He didn't manufacture it alone. It was lent
to him repeatedly, often by people who told themselves they
were staying neutral. When billionaires plead ignorance, what they're really
asking for is exemption. Exemption from judgment, exemption from moral memory,
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exemption from follow up questions. Wealth does not grant that privilege.
Access does not erase responsibility. Silence is not neutral when
it protects predators. History records silence carefully. Now reed, Hoffmann
may regret proximity today, regret is not reckoning. Reckoning requires
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detail and vulnerable. It requires timelines, not platitudes. It requires
answers that do not flatter the speaker. Carefully sanded statements
are not courage. Look, this is not about inventing crimes
where evidence does not exist. It's about refusing fantasies where
facts clearly do read Hoffman knew Jeffrey Epstein read Hoffman
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visited his island. Those realities are not up for debate.
What remains is a depth of that relationship, and the
choice is made within it. History is going to keep
asking that question, and if they continue with their silence,
they'll keep answering it poorly. All of the information that
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