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December 30, 2025 15 mins
Speculation has long circulated that Ghislaine Maxwell quietly explored the possibility of cutting a cooperation deal with federal prosecutors in the window between her conviction and her initial appeal in 2022. Observers pointed to unusual signals: sealed filings, delayed sentencing timelines, and reports of meetings between Maxwell’s legal team and the Department of Justice that appeared to go beyond routine post-trial procedure. The theory held that Maxwell, facing decades in prison, may have tested whether prosecutors were interested in information about Epstein’s broader network in exchange for sentencing consideration or post-conviction relief. Her defense posture during this period—careful, restrained, and notably selective in public statements—only fueled suspicions that back-channel discussions were at least contemplated.

What intensified that speculation was the ultimate outcome: no cooperation agreement emerged, no sweeping revelations followed, and Maxwell proceeded with a narrow, tightly constructed appeal that conspicuously avoided challenging the broader architecture of Epstein’s operation. Critics argue this suggests that if discussions occurred, they either stalled or were deliberately constrained, possibly because prosecutors were unwilling to open cases that could implicate powerful institutions or individuals beyond the scope of her trial. Others believe Maxwell may have overestimated her leverage, discovering too late that the government was only interested in a conviction that sealed the case rather than one that expanded it. In the absence of transparency, the period before her 2022 appeal has come to symbolize a missed—or intentionally closed—door to exposing the full Epstein network.



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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
One of the most burning questions that everyone always has
when it comes to Glainne Maxwell is will this lady
ever name names? Well, we know she hasn't up until
this point, and we know that she didn't even try
and dangle any of those names to the authorities when

(00:23):
she was going through the first prosecution. Now that's according
to her and the authorities. But she has until twenty
twenty three to drop some names. The question is, now
that she's had a little taste of what confinement is like,
is she going to spill the beans? Is she going
to be more willing to talk about some of the

(00:46):
other people who might have been participating. You would think
that she would be. I know, if it was me,
I'd be ready to sing like a mockingbird, folks. I'd
be up there talking like Henry Hill to save myself
from this nightmare that she's about to face. But so
far she hasn't done that. Now we know that she

(01:07):
has the keys, We know she knows where the bodies
are buried. Maybe not you know, actual bodies, but you
get my point. And she knows the secrets of all
of these disgusting Johns who are using their services. I mean,
you would think that a vindictive person, a vindictive woman
like Elainne Maxwell, would be the first one there with
a motormouth jaw running. But that hasn't been the case yet.

(01:29):
So it leads me to believe that there's a couple
of things at play here. One she's terrified about telling
on anybody because she knows the end result. Two the
government is just not receptive and they don't want to
hear it. Or three, she doesn't have anything that the
government wants, So it has to be one of those

(01:50):
three options. Right, maybe I'm missing one. If i am,
please feel free to shoot me an email and let
me know, because from where I'm sitting, it certainly seems like, now,
how's the time you have Prince Andrew who's on the run.
The Queen's no longer there to protect them. She could
really serve some people up right now. She could serve
up Trump. She could serve up Clinton at the very least,

(02:11):
talk about their relationship with Epstein while she was around.
She could talk about the fact that her and Bill
Clinton allegedly dated. Yeah, that might be part of the conversation,
you know, you would think that journalists would want to
hear that, but so far, Mum's the word from Glene Maxwell.
So today we have an article from the fantastic Brad

(02:33):
Hunter over at the Toronto Sun. And if you aren't
familiar with Brad Hunter's work throughout this whole process, he
has done a very very good job as far as
cataloging and documenting what's going on here and being very
critical of not only the participants but the way the
story has been covered. Headline. Gallainne Maxwell has until June

(02:57):
twenty twenty three to name names. But will she the
once elegant brunette sits rotting in a jail cell in
the Florida Panhandle. That's a nice way to put it,
hanging out down there with their Celli's the murderers, the
drug dealers, you name it. Those are her new peeps.

(03:17):
Now She's exactly where she belongs, right. If anyone belongs
behind bars, it's people who commit crimes against children, and
people who commit crimes against those who can't defend themselves.
I have such a problem with the exploitation of the vulnerable.
I'm like Tyran Lanister, I have a thing for bastards

(03:39):
crippled and broken things. And I really just despise bullies.
And when you break it all down and you look
at it, that's what Maxwell was, That's what Epstein was,
That's what all of these super rich people are. They're bullies.
She is sixty years old and this is likely as
good as it's going to get for the foreseeable future.

(04:01):
Her name is Glenn Maxwell, once the bell of the
ball in London, New York and Palm Beach, and don't
forget New Mexico, don't forget Paris. But for sure, it
has to be a shock to the system, right, you
have somebody who has been living in the lapse of
luxury since their birth and then all of a sudden
to be thrust into this jail system. And I know

(04:24):
there's people out there that are like, oh, you know,
this is a country club jail. And look, you're not wrong, right,
it's not hard time. I'm not going to sit here
and tell you she's at Shawshank, But the reality is
she's behind bars and she's not living the life that
she wanted to live. Do you really think she wants
to spend three hundred and fifty bucks at the commissary

(04:44):
on you know, top ramen and garbage food or does
she want to eat the chef made food that she
is used to ayde. So while it's not you know,
the perfect scenario with her being locked up, at the
very least she is locked up behind bars and not
jet setting around the world. Maxwell was sentenced to twenty

(05:06):
years in federal prison in June for her role in
billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's odious sex trafficking operation that preyed
on vulnerable underage girls. And again, a sex trafficking operation
that preyed on the vulnerable and underage girls. So who
Jeffrey Epstein wasn't getting all of these girls traffick to

(05:29):
himself right? So where are the calls from the prosecution,
the SDNY, and all of their pals to go after
these mfforts and go after them hard? That's what they deserve,
an absolute colonoscopy of an investigation, and I'm talking without
any sedative. Epstein topped himself in a Manhattan jail cell

(05:52):
allegedly in August twenty nineteen while awaiting trial for sex trafficking.
But what about his friends? You ask his pals and
perversion who lusted after teen girls. Yeah, where are all
of these guys? Where are all of the people who
were using these services? You want a surefire, quick fire

(06:12):
away to get there, Bring in all of the co conspirators,
bring in the core for put them under oath, hit
them all with rico with predicates, and let them know
if they lie, they're going to do twenty five thirty
years mandatory time, not even a discussion about it. You see,
they'll use all of these tools that they have at
their disposal, meaning the federal government, when they're going after

(06:35):
people like you or me. But when you're going after
a child sex trafficking operation, ah, you know what, We're
just gonna go after the low hanging fruit here, and
we're not going to expose any of the people who
were using these services. And once again I'll leave it
up to you to figure out why why didn't Glenn

(06:56):
Maxwell name names that may still come Dear reader, the
disgraced publishing Eras has until June twenty twenty three to
sing for her supper. So when she goes up for
this appeal, she has a chance maybe to talk about
what happened, to try and get some lighter time right
and tell the judge and the jury and the system

(07:17):
that I'm willing to cooperate now, whereas before that wasn't
even an option, it seems now the question is what
would she get in return for cooperation? And what would
everybody out there be comfortable with her getting for cooperation.
Say she gave up information that turned into a big

(07:38):
sting and it brought in a bunch of the Johns
who were using these trafficked girls. Would she be worthy
of getting five ten years peeled off her sentence? See
that's what happens, right, If she gives up information, it's
not because it's goodwill. She's going to be getting something
on the backside of that. So I just want everyone
to be prepared just in case. I think Elayne has

(08:02):
been wrestling for a long time on whether to sing
or not. Author and Pulitzer Prize nominee Barry Levine told
me people want her to name names. For sure, people
want her to name names, But is the juice worth
the squeeze for? Meaning? What is she going to get
in return? Remember that's what this is all about. Somebody
like Maxwell especially, She's not doing anything out of the

(08:24):
kindness of her heart. Remember, everything's about self preservation and
how I can manipulate this situation to best fit what
I need it to do. Levine, author of the seminal
book on the case The Spider Inside the Criminal Web
of Jeffrey Epstein and GALAINN. Maxwell, said that if she cooperates,
the Feds may shave a couple of years offer sentence,

(08:47):
and that's how it usually works. So I can only
tell you from what I know about how the federal
government deals with confidential informants and snitches, because that happens
to fall into the orbit of my other work into
criminal organizations and organized crime. So what they'll do is
they'll dangle a shorter sentence over your head if you

(09:10):
turn state's evidence and sign the three zero two and
profer out for the day. And to a lot of criminals,
that's very appealing. Nobody wants to sit in a jail
cell for twenty freaking years, folks, Okay. And then what
happens is if you help the government when you go
up for appeal, the appeal board sees that you are
helping the government, and they take that into account when

(09:30):
they make your when they make their decision. So that's
why you see a lot of people play ball with
the government and with the police inside of the jail system. Remember,
her jail cell in Brooklyn was a living hell for
her every day. And I don't think Elaine or her
lawyers were exaggerating about the conditions, Levin said, adding life

(09:52):
at low security FCI Tallahassee is more bearable. There's no
doubt the lockups are They're deplorable. I've known people that
have been in that lock up, that exact lockup, and
it is not a good place to be. You know,
you think federal prison and you think it's a little
bit more well run, well well managed, better managed than

(10:13):
a state facility. But that's not the case, especially down
at MDC and MCC in Brooklyn. I'm sure she asked herself,
is this worth it? A problem for Maxwell is that
the prosecution never offered her a deal, and she didn't
ask for one. So that's the rub. Why didn't the
prosecution Maureen Comyan friends asked her if she wanted to deal,

(10:36):
asked her if she had something to serve up. That
might have been scrumptious. So if they didn't even ask,
what does that tell you about moving on with this case?
Sure seems to me that we were served up a
bunch of bs by the federal government, by the Department
of Justice, by the SDN Y about how they're going
to go after co conspirators here when that's not even

(10:58):
the reality. Levin said, the prosecution wanted a jury verdict
and they got one. I think the time for her
and the prosecution to act is now because the verdict
was tainted by the two jurors who didn't acknowledge their past.
Levin said, they have based her appeal off of that.

(11:18):
Now we know about jur fifty Scottie David, and there
was another juror who allegedly didn't reveal their whole past.
But I highly doubt that an appeals court is really
going to look at that and say this is a
basis for your conviction to be overturned. At addition, Maxwell's
family want her move to a British prison where conditions

(11:40):
are significantly better. I'll tell you what, I'd be willing
to see her move to a British prison if she
spilled the beans. She still has to serve her sentence
over in England, but she has to completely spill the beans.
And I'm talking about gigantic catches. I'm talking about Ehud Barack.
I'm talking about Bill Clinton, all of them. If five thinks,

(12:00):
if Maxwell sings, she'll target the four women who were
given immunity by the Feds in connection with Epstein's two
thousand and eight underage sex plea deal, meaning the core
four now again, Nadia Marsonkova is a completely different case.
In my opinion, I think that she should be treated
differently than the other women who were involved here, And

(12:21):
the more I learn about her circumstances, the more sure
I am about that. Maxwell mysteriously wasn't named, but is
the fifth woman Epstein's lawyers asked for immunity. But will
she name the great and good who defiled the teens
with help from Epstein and Maxwell? That's the million dollar question,

(12:44):
and it's the one that we've been asking here for
quite some time. She should What does she have to
lose at this point? I mean, why wouldn't she rat
on Sarah Kellen Vickers or Adriana Ross or Leslie Groff.
She tried to play the immunity card at her trial,
but the public wouldn't be satisfied with her naming the
bit players instead of the men who sexually abuse these girls.

(13:07):
Levine said, we want the names of these wealthy and
powerful men. In the end, it's down to Glaine. It
rests with her. Epstein is dead, Jean Luke Brunel, the
Paris modeling agent who supplied girls to the pedophile, is dead.
The million dollar question is will she attempt to name
these men of high exposure, like Prince Andrew, who is

(13:29):
not a US citizen. That is still a card she
could play, But public sentiment won't allow her to just
walk away, and it shouldn't. She has to pay the price.
She's the one who chose to do all of this.
She's the one who chose to engage in this behavior
with Jeffrey Epstein. Levine added, her goose is cooked. Maxwell
may also have another worry. Epstein's suicide is not the

(13:53):
final word on his death, same with Brunell. There's some
who might say if Glaine turns rat, she's opening herself
to getting a hit put on her, Levine said. But
every minute she puts behind bars, there's the risk of
being killed by a crazed inmate. So she's damned either way.
And that is the rub of it, right when you
get down to it, folks, she might be in a

(14:14):
facility that people consider a country club, but she's still
in federal prison with some very dangerous people, so she's
at risk every minute she's in there. He is not
wrong about that, and you know she's going to be
looking to better her circumstances. So the million dollar question,
like mister Hunter says here, is will Delaine Maxwell sing

(14:34):
and name names to try and get a better circumstance
for herself moving forward. Me, I'm not sure one way
or the other. I don't know. I would think that
she would attempt to try and at least deal here,
but we have seen that the government hasn't been receptive
to that as of now. Could it be like they

(14:55):
say in the article that they wanted to get a
jury conviction here or is there something else going on?
We'll have to wait and see, But either way, this
is far from over all right, everybody. If you'd like
to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi
at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O B B y
c A p U c c I at ProtonMail dot com.

(15:17):
You can also find me on Twitter at b O
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