November 26, 2025 • 14 mins
Massie has accused Patel of engaging in a “troubling deflection” — specifically, Massie criticized Patel for refusing to commit to a clear timeline for making the Epstein-related FBI documents public, even after a legal mandate requiring release. Massie pointed out that while the administration claims to have released tens of thousands of documents, not a single name of individuals allegedly implicated in Epstein’s network has been made public. According to Massie, this suggests the release so far is superficial: “They say we’ve released 10,000 documents, 30,000 documents... but what they have failed to do so far is to release a single name.”
Massie argues that the reason given by Patel — that the FBI needs time or must follow internal processes — reads less like legitimate caution and more like stalling for political cover. He contends that the delays and vagueness serve only to protect powerful individuals who may be named in the files, rather than provide real transparency. Massie has said the public and Epstein’s survivors deserve full disclosure, including the names in the so-called “FD-302” witness interview forms.
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Massie argues that the reason given by Patel — that the FBI needs time or must follow internal processes — reads less like legitimate caution and more like stalling for political cover. He contends that the delays and vagueness serve only to protect powerful individuals who may be named in the files, rather than provide real transparency. Massie has said the public and Epstein’s survivors deserve full disclosure, including the names in the so-called “FD-302” witness interview forms.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. Cash Betel has always been a walking billboard
for everything wrong with the political hype machine. The guy
talks like he's some Harden warrior who's been through Helen back,
when really he's just another suit play and dress up.
Every time he opens his mouth, it's like watching someone
(00:22):
rehearse lines they practiced in the mirror before going on
Fox News. I mean, you could practically hear the producer
in his ear piece telling him when to squint, when
to smirk, and when to pretend he's about to drop
a truth bomb, and the crowd eats it up because
they're desperate for someone, anyone, to finally stop lying to them.
Except that he's not the guy, and he's never been.
(00:43):
He's just another actor reading a script written by the
same old hands that have been lying to us forever,
and every time he pretends to be the hero, he
proves he's really just another cog in the machine. The
whole day one release the Epstein Files act was honestly embarrassing.
In hindsight, he said it like he was delivering a
trailer for the next Marvel movie. That smug little grin
(01:05):
like he was walking around holding the nuclear launch codes
in his pocket, Glenn Beck, hyping them up like they
had just unlocked the ark of the Covenant. And for
what For the same tired political theater that we've been
choking on for years. They dangle hope in front of
people who actually give a damn about justice and then
yank it away like the fishermen yanking the dollar away
(01:26):
in the old Geico commercials. They played survivors, they played
the public, they played everyone who wanted the truth. And
then what happened when the time came to put action
behind the talk? Nothing, absolutely nothing. The guy who was
pounding his chest and yelling about transparency suddenly turns into
a church mouse when he's asked any real questions. Catherine
(01:49):
Herriage asked him a real question. Suddenly he couldn't commit.
Suddenly he needed to review the situation and console legal
channels and be responsible. Responsible. After you promised the word word,
you were going to rip the doors off the vault.
That is the exact blueprint of fraud. Talk big when
there's nothing at risk, Shrink into a corner when someone
(02:10):
demands an answer that can't be cushioned by applause, and
the worst part, he did it with that same little smirk,
like he thought nobody noticed the switch, like we were
all too stupid to catch on, like we're just background
extras in the movie of his life. But of course
people did notice, and they're pissed because you don't get
to run around pretending you're some champion of truth and
(02:32):
then fold when it matters most. You don't get to
use the Epstein's survivors as props for tough guy branding
and then ghosts the second you're asked for commitment. And look,
it's not just about cash Betel, like I've been telling
you for a long time, Bro is just a symptom
of the bigger disease, the whole entire Trump orbited his
pack with these cosplay soldiers who play patriots on TV
(02:56):
until they're actually asked to do something real. Every last
one of them melts like cheap chocolate. When the lights
get bright. They all swear they're going to drain the
swamp while bathing in the swamp water like it's holy oil.
It's a never ending parade of fakes, because let's be
honest here, if they wanted the Epstein files released they
would have released them already. Trump could have done it
(03:18):
with the stroke of a pen and didn't. Patel could
have stood firm and didn't. Instead, they're all hiding behind
excuses like scared interns who forgot their homework. Meanwhile, hundreds
of survivers and the public are waiting for real accountability
and keep getting slapped in the face by theatrix. So
when people ask how can anyone trust cash Ptel, the
(03:39):
answer is simple, you can't and you shouldn't. And that's
because he backtracks every time it counts. If anything, he's
a mascot for the whole clown show, the face of
empty promises, dressed up as a rebellion, a hollow drum,
loud as hell, but nothing on the inside. And when
the chips are down, they always protect themselves in their boss. First.
(04:01):
You saw it the second he refused to commit to
full disclosure. That wasn't hesitation, that was obedience. That was
loyalty to power and to Trump instead of loyalty to
the truth. And that's the real problem, not just Battel,
but a system that trains people to lick boots instead
of stand up. So, yeah, the cover up is alive
and well and it's bipartisan, and it's protected by every
(04:24):
single smiling fraud who goes on TV pretending to give
a damn Battel is just the latest mascot for the
Great American con job. And the more they talk, the
clearer it gets that none of them are ever going
to save us, because at the end of the day,
it's not in competence, it's strategy. It's deliberate, it's coordinated,
(04:44):
and every time someone like Cash Betel backpedals, it confirms
what we already know. They're terrified of what is actually
in those files. Today's article is from Newsweek and the
headline Epstein files. Massy accuses Patel of troubling deflection on release.
(05:05):
This article was authored by Shane Croucher. Republican Representative Thomas Massey,
who spearheaded the petition that led to the House vote
on the full release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, accused
FBI Director Cash Bettel of a troubling deflection when answering
whether the administration would meet it's thirty day deadline to
make those documents public. And there's no way that they're
(05:27):
going to meet the deadline. We're not getting all these
files are you crazy. There's going to be excuses, there's
going to be reasons why, and of course they're going
to say, well, this is national security. We have to
make sure that we're protecting the country. That opens up
a whole less other conversation, though, how could Jeffrey Epstein
(05:47):
and his trafficking ring have anything to do with national
security if he wasn't an asset. Somebody needs to explain that,
and they need to explain it with crayons like I'm
five years old, obviously, because I have no idea how
anyone on the planet can try and frame Jeffrey Epstein's
bullshit as national security if he wasn't in an asset. Massey,
(06:10):
in a post on X, was reacting to an interview
with Patel by the journalist Catherine Herridge, who asked him
directly if the FBI would meet the deadline. Patel replied
that the FBI and the Department of Justice are committed
to producing what they could lawfully legally, and cited court
orders that prohibit the disclosure of information. I mean, what
(06:33):
a bunch of jargon, a bunch of nonsense, a bunch
of bs. What he really means is you're not getting shit,
and that's the end of it. They're going to do
their very best to make sure that this order is
not followed through with. Now they're going to give some documents,
of course, right, but I have a lot of doubts
about this administration following through with anything that they say
(06:55):
they're going to do. The congressman from Kentucky named the
FBI's FD three two forms, which summarize interviews with witnesses,
as of particular interest. Massey, who believes that there are
previously unknown names of individuals related to the Epstein case
within those forms, said the victims' names could be redacted
(07:16):
from them before they're released. Well, yeah, that's what we
should be doing. The three twos are very important. It
shows us who was being talked to, who wasn't being
talked to, and what kind of investigation was being kicked
off behind the scenes. And we all know that they
weren't doing the right thing because if they were, there
would have been a lot more arrests. This would have
been rico and that's a whole other conversation that we're
(07:39):
definitely going to get into. If Jeffrey Epstein wasn't an asset,
this would have been a RICO case. There is no
doubt about it. And when you talk to lawyers, they'll
tell you the same thing. I mean, look at how
they tried to do Ditty, and there's no doubt that
Ditty should be in prison. But was he running a
RICO operation at least in comparison to what Epstein was doing.
(08:03):
We're talking about apples and fucking chicken palmesan here, very
different things. And if anyone should have been charged with RICO,
it's Jeffrey Epstein. Newsweek contacted Masse's office and the FBI
via email outside of normal business hours for comment normal
business hours. What the FBI has closed? They take some
time off, No wonder, Shit's all screwed up. Epstein, a
(08:27):
former friend of US President Donald Trump, was a wealthy
and well connected financier convicted of child sex offenses. He
maintained an elite network of powerful contacts across politics, business, law,
and academia even after his conviction. Epstein died by suicide,
allegedly in his New York City jail cell in twenty
(08:48):
nineteen while awaiting trial. Survivors of Epstein's abuse believe that
the government has kept hidden the full extent of what
it knows about his activities and with whom gaving many
unanswered questions. The Trump administration pledged full transparency of the
Epstein files, but delays to their release and the president
(09:09):
playing down their significance frustrated his supporters, who suspect to
cover up. Well, yeah, how could you not suspect a
cover up? I mean, on what planet are you living
where any of this is okay? Where any of this
is acceptable? Trump signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act on
November nineteenth, the same day it passed the Senate. Trump
(09:31):
clashed with Massey over the House petition that led to
the act, before backing down and telling Republicans to vote
for it when it became clear that the bill would
pass anyway. Imagine trying to take credit for this. If
you're a Trump the way he did. What a clown, bro.
You didn't even want these files to be released, but
all of a sudden, Well, I told the Republicans though
(09:52):
you were getting malliwop, Bro, you didn't have any votes,
well maybe one, But besides that, nobody wants to put
a NOE down for something like this. And I think
people are coming around to the fact that Trump is
a lame duck, something I've been talking about for a
while now. And when you're part of the insider baseball
(10:13):
of politics, you know what that means for a congressman,
you know what it means for everybody else. They're looking
for the next thing, the next guy. They're looking to
make sure that they're not going to go down with
the ship, if you will. And that's why you see
a lot of the people who are breaking with Trump
when it comes to Congress. In the Senate, that's why
you're seeing it because they don't want to be caught
(10:35):
with that hot potato. When the music stops, you know,
Trump isn't going to be on the ticket next time.
Most of these people run, So they're starting to think
about the future. And that's a good thing. It's passage
that the clock ticking on a thirty day deadline for
Attorney General Pambondi to make publicly available in a searchable
and downloadable format all unclassified records, documents, communications, and an
(11:00):
investigative materials in the possession of the Department of Justice,
the various Epstein investigation files per the Act, and there's
going to be tons and tons of files that we're
not going to get any sort of look at wait
and see. If you think we're going to get transparency here,
you're going to be sorely mistaken, because there's no transparency coming.
(11:22):
Not in the sense that a lot of people think
it might be coming. But this is going to be
the first time that the Justice Department slow locked. In
order from Congress, the Act gives the DOJ some grounds
for withholding certain files or information within them, such as
anything that identifies a victim or a child witness, images
that show injury, abuse, or death, or details that would
(11:44):
jeopardize an active federal investigation or a prosecution. When Herriage
asked Pttel on her straight to the point show if
the deadline would be met, he replied, we're working with
our partners at the DOJ to produce as we have
always committed to produce what we can lawfully legally produce.
That sure is a change from the whole day one release.
(12:07):
We're gonna have a day one release here. We're gonna
have all the Upstein files released the day I become
so and so. Man, shut up, just shut up. And
they're out here crying about Comy talk about two peas
in a pod Comy and Patel, and that's the best
we can do as a country for the FBI people
(12:27):
like that. We're cooked, folks. I hate to say it,
but we're cooked. And at this point we have to
ask ourselves are these institutions even worth saving, because as
far as I can see, a lot of them aren't.
And we will continue to meet those metrics. Betel continued,
reminding the public that there are cord orders that are
(12:47):
in place, protective orders, orders to seal in place that
legally prohibit the disclosure of information related to any investigation
when there's a coord order of that fashion. So we're
working with the DOJ to see if we can produce
anything more. In other words, they don't want to produce anything.
They want court orders. They want to make sure that
(13:08):
everything gets bogged up so that they can run the
clock out. I've told you this from the very beginning.
They're counting on you, giving up on you, being exhausted,
on you saying, you know what, there's nothing we can do.
We're never gonna have transparency. We might as well pack
it in. That's what they're hoping for, and what I'm
hoping for is that you don't give it to them,
(13:29):
because guess what. Look, what's already been accomplished with the
pressure campaign that we've put on them, and so now
is not the time to back off. Now's the time
to hit the gas, all right, everybody that's gonna do
it for this one. And I know a lot of
people out there aren't big fans the commercials and ads,
and I get it. I'm not either. So if you
(13:50):
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(14:11):
this episode, you can find that in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. Cash Betel has always been a walking billboard
for everything wrong with the political hype machine. The guy
talks like he's some Harden warrior who's been through Helen back,
when really he's just another suit play and dress up.
Every time he opens his mouth, it's like watching someone
(00:22):
rehearse lines they practiced in the mirror before going on
Fox News. I mean, you could practically hear the producer
in his ear piece telling him when to squint, when
to smirk, and when to pretend he's about to drop
a truth bomb, and the crowd eats it up because
they're desperate for someone, anyone, to finally stop lying to them.
Except that he's not the guy, and he's never been.
(00:43):
He's just another actor reading a script written by the
same old hands that have been lying to us forever,
and every time he pretends to be the hero, he
proves he's really just another cog in the machine. The
whole day one release the Epstein Files act was honestly embarrassing.
In hindsight, he said it like he was delivering a
trailer for the next Marvel movie. That smug little grin
(01:05):
like he was walking around holding the nuclear launch codes
in his pocket, Glenn Beck, hyping them up like they
had just unlocked the ark of the Covenant. And for
what For the same tired political theater that we've been
choking on for years. They dangle hope in front of
people who actually give a damn about justice and then
yank it away like the fishermen yanking the dollar away
(01:26):
in the old Geico commercials. They played survivors, they played
the public, they played everyone who wanted the truth. And
then what happened when the time came to put action
behind the talk? Nothing, absolutely nothing. The guy who was
pounding his chest and yelling about transparency suddenly turns into
a church mouse when he's asked any real questions. Catherine
(01:49):
Herriage asked him a real question. Suddenly he couldn't commit.
Suddenly he needed to review the situation and console legal
channels and be responsible. Responsible. After you promised the word word,
you were going to rip the doors off the vault.
That is the exact blueprint of fraud. Talk big when
there's nothing at risk, Shrink into a corner when someone
(02:10):
demands an answer that can't be cushioned by applause, and
the worst part, he did it with that same little smirk,
like he thought nobody noticed the switch, like we were
all too stupid to catch on, like we're just background
extras in the movie of his life. But of course
people did notice, and they're pissed because you don't get
to run around pretending you're some champion of truth and
(02:32):
then fold when it matters most. You don't get to
use the Epstein's survivors as props for tough guy branding
and then ghosts the second you're asked for commitment. And look,
it's not just about cash Betel, like I've been telling
you for a long time, Bro is just a symptom
of the bigger disease, the whole entire Trump orbited his
pack with these cosplay soldiers who play patriots on TV
(02:56):
until they're actually asked to do something real. Every last
one of them melts like cheap chocolate. When the lights
get bright. They all swear they're going to drain the
swamp while bathing in the swamp water like it's holy oil.
It's a never ending parade of fakes, because let's be
honest here, if they wanted the Epstein files released they
would have released them already. Trump could have done it
(03:18):
with the stroke of a pen and didn't. Patel could
have stood firm and didn't. Instead, they're all hiding behind
excuses like scared interns who forgot their homework. Meanwhile, hundreds
of survivers and the public are waiting for real accountability
and keep getting slapped in the face by theatrix. So
when people ask how can anyone trust cash Ptel, the
(03:39):
answer is simple, you can't and you shouldn't. And that's
because he backtracks every time it counts. If anything, he's
a mascot for the whole clown show, the face of
empty promises, dressed up as a rebellion, a hollow drum,
loud as hell, but nothing on the inside. And when
the chips are down, they always protect themselves in their boss. First.
(04:01):
You saw it the second he refused to commit to
full disclosure. That wasn't hesitation, that was obedience. That was
loyalty to power and to Trump instead of loyalty to
the truth. And that's the real problem, not just Battel,
but a system that trains people to lick boots instead
of stand up. So, yeah, the cover up is alive
and well and it's bipartisan, and it's protected by every
(04:24):
single smiling fraud who goes on TV pretending to give
a damn Battel is just the latest mascot for the
Great American con job. And the more they talk, the
clearer it gets that none of them are ever going
to save us, because at the end of the day,
it's not in competence, it's strategy. It's deliberate, it's coordinated,
(04:44):
and every time someone like Cash Betel backpedals, it confirms
what we already know. They're terrified of what is actually
in those files. Today's article is from Newsweek and the
headline Epstein files. Massy accuses Patel of troubling deflection on release.
(05:05):
This article was authored by Shane Croucher. Republican Representative Thomas Massey,
who spearheaded the petition that led to the House vote
on the full release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, accused
FBI Director Cash Bettel of a troubling deflection when answering
whether the administration would meet it's thirty day deadline to
make those documents public. And there's no way that they're
(05:27):
going to meet the deadline. We're not getting all these
files are you crazy. There's going to be excuses, there's
going to be reasons why, and of course they're going
to say, well, this is national security. We have to
make sure that we're protecting the country. That opens up
a whole less other conversation, though, how could Jeffrey Epstein
(05:47):
and his trafficking ring have anything to do with national
security if he wasn't an asset. Somebody needs to explain that,
and they need to explain it with crayons like I'm
five years old, obviously, because I have no idea how
anyone on the planet can try and frame Jeffrey Epstein's
bullshit as national security if he wasn't in an asset. Massey,
(06:10):
in a post on X, was reacting to an interview
with Patel by the journalist Catherine Herridge, who asked him
directly if the FBI would meet the deadline. Patel replied
that the FBI and the Department of Justice are committed
to producing what they could lawfully legally, and cited court
orders that prohibit the disclosure of information. I mean, what
(06:33):
a bunch of jargon, a bunch of nonsense, a bunch
of bs. What he really means is you're not getting shit,
and that's the end of it. They're going to do
their very best to make sure that this order is
not followed through with. Now they're going to give some documents,
of course, right, but I have a lot of doubts
about this administration following through with anything that they say
(06:55):
they're going to do. The congressman from Kentucky named the
FBI's FD three two forms, which summarize interviews with witnesses,
as of particular interest. Massey, who believes that there are
previously unknown names of individuals related to the Epstein case
within those forms, said the victims' names could be redacted
(07:16):
from them before they're released. Well, yeah, that's what we
should be doing. The three twos are very important. It
shows us who was being talked to, who wasn't being
talked to, and what kind of investigation was being kicked
off behind the scenes. And we all know that they
weren't doing the right thing because if they were, there
would have been a lot more arrests. This would have
been rico and that's a whole other conversation that we're
(07:39):
definitely going to get into. If Jeffrey Epstein wasn't an asset,
this would have been a RICO case. There is no
doubt about it. And when you talk to lawyers, they'll
tell you the same thing. I mean, look at how
they tried to do Ditty, and there's no doubt that
Ditty should be in prison. But was he running a
RICO operation at least in comparison to what Epstein was doing.
(08:03):
We're talking about apples and fucking chicken palmesan here, very
different things. And if anyone should have been charged with RICO,
it's Jeffrey Epstein. Newsweek contacted Masse's office and the FBI
via email outside of normal business hours for comment normal
business hours. What the FBI has closed? They take some
time off, No wonder, Shit's all screwed up. Epstein, a
(08:27):
former friend of US President Donald Trump, was a wealthy
and well connected financier convicted of child sex offenses. He
maintained an elite network of powerful contacts across politics, business, law,
and academia even after his conviction. Epstein died by suicide,
allegedly in his New York City jail cell in twenty
(08:48):
nineteen while awaiting trial. Survivors of Epstein's abuse believe that
the government has kept hidden the full extent of what
it knows about his activities and with whom gaving many
unanswered questions. The Trump administration pledged full transparency of the
Epstein files, but delays to their release and the president
(09:09):
playing down their significance frustrated his supporters, who suspect to
cover up. Well, yeah, how could you not suspect a
cover up? I mean, on what planet are you living
where any of this is okay? Where any of this
is acceptable? Trump signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act on
November nineteenth, the same day it passed the Senate. Trump
(09:31):
clashed with Massey over the House petition that led to
the act, before backing down and telling Republicans to vote
for it when it became clear that the bill would
pass anyway. Imagine trying to take credit for this. If
you're a Trump the way he did. What a clown, bro.
You didn't even want these files to be released, but
all of a sudden, Well, I told the Republicans though
(09:52):
you were getting malliwop, Bro, you didn't have any votes,
well maybe one, But besides that, nobody wants to put
a NOE down for something like this. And I think
people are coming around to the fact that Trump is
a lame duck, something I've been talking about for a
while now. And when you're part of the insider baseball
(10:13):
of politics, you know what that means for a congressman,
you know what it means for everybody else. They're looking
for the next thing, the next guy. They're looking to
make sure that they're not going to go down with
the ship, if you will. And that's why you see
a lot of the people who are breaking with Trump
when it comes to Congress. In the Senate, that's why
you're seeing it because they don't want to be caught
(10:35):
with that hot potato. When the music stops, you know,
Trump isn't going to be on the ticket next time.
Most of these people run, So they're starting to think
about the future. And that's a good thing. It's passage
that the clock ticking on a thirty day deadline for
Attorney General Pambondi to make publicly available in a searchable
and downloadable format all unclassified records, documents, communications, and an
(11:00):
investigative materials in the possession of the Department of Justice,
the various Epstein investigation files per the Act, and there's
going to be tons and tons of files that we're
not going to get any sort of look at wait
and see. If you think we're going to get transparency here,
you're going to be sorely mistaken, because there's no transparency coming.
(11:22):
Not in the sense that a lot of people think
it might be coming. But this is going to be
the first time that the Justice Department slow locked. In
order from Congress, the Act gives the DOJ some grounds
for withholding certain files or information within them, such as
anything that identifies a victim or a child witness, images
that show injury, abuse, or death, or details that would
(11:44):
jeopardize an active federal investigation or a prosecution. When Herriage
asked Pttel on her straight to the point show if
the deadline would be met, he replied, we're working with
our partners at the DOJ to produce as we have
always committed to produce what we can lawfully legally produce.
That sure is a change from the whole day one release.
(12:07):
We're gonna have a day one release here. We're gonna
have all the Upstein files released the day I become
so and so. Man, shut up, just shut up. And
they're out here crying about Comy talk about two peas
in a pod Comy and Patel, and that's the best
we can do as a country for the FBI people
(12:27):
like that. We're cooked, folks. I hate to say it,
but we're cooked. And at this point we have to
ask ourselves are these institutions even worth saving, because as
far as I can see, a lot of them aren't.
And we will continue to meet those metrics. Betel continued,
reminding the public that there are cord orders that are
(12:47):
in place, protective orders, orders to seal in place that
legally prohibit the disclosure of information related to any investigation
when there's a coord order of that fashion. So we're
working with the DOJ to see if we can produce
anything more. In other words, they don't want to produce anything.
They want court orders. They want to make sure that
(13:08):
everything gets bogged up so that they can run the
clock out. I've told you this from the very beginning.
They're counting on you, giving up on you, being exhausted,
on you saying, you know what, there's nothing we can do.
We're never gonna have transparency. We might as well pack
it in. That's what they're hoping for, and what I'm
hoping for is that you don't give it to them,
(13:29):
because guess what. Look, what's already been accomplished with the
pressure campaign that we've put on them, and so now
is not the time to back off. Now's the time
to hit the gas, all right, everybody that's gonna do
it for this one. And I know a lot of
people out there aren't big fans the commercials and ads,
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