January 4, 2026 • 20 mins
For years, the Department of Justice moved at a glacial pace despite mounting evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was running an organized sex-trafficking operation involving underage girls. Local law enforcement in Palm Beach began flagging serious allegations as early as 2005, supported by victim statements, corroborating witnesses, and sworn accounts from Epstein’s own staff. Yet instead of escalating the matter into a robust federal prosecution, DOJ leadership allowed the case to languish, cycling through internal reviews, jurisdictional hedging, and prolonged “consideration” while Epstein remained free to continue abusing victims. The delay was not due to a lack of evidence, but a lack of urgency—an institutional hesitation that treated Epstein as a problem to be managed rather than a predator to be stopped.
When the DOJ finally did engage in earnest, it did so in the narrowest and most deferential way possible, culminating in a non-prosecution agreement that short-circuited accountability rather than delivering it. Federal charges that could have dismantled Epstein’s network were shelved, co-conspirators were quietly shielded, and victims were kept in the dark in violation of their rights. The drawn-out timeline reveals a pattern of foot-dragging that benefitted only Epstein and those around him: delays created leverage for his lawyers, softened prosecutorial resolve, and ultimately allowed the DOJ to claim resolution without reckoning. In hindsight, the slow walk toward charges wasn’t a bureaucratic accident—it was a decisive factor in one of the most consequential failures of federal justice in modern memory.
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When the DOJ finally did engage in earnest, it did so in the narrowest and most deferential way possible, culminating in a non-prosecution agreement that short-circuited accountability rather than delivering it. Federal charges that could have dismantled Epstein’s network were shelved, co-conspirators were quietly shielded, and victims were kept in the dark in violation of their rights. The drawn-out timeline reveals a pattern of foot-dragging that benefitted only Epstein and those around him: delays created leverage for his lawyers, softened prosecutorial resolve, and ultimately allowed the DOJ to claim resolution without reckoning. In hindsight, the slow walk toward charges wasn’t a bureaucratic accident—it was a decisive factor in one of the most consequential failures of federal justice in modern memory.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So today, what we're going to talk about
here on the program is a new report from the
Daily News about the decision to not pursue Epstein in
two thousand and sixteen. We know that this prosecution of
Epstein from the very beginning was absolute gobbage, hot, stinking gobbage, folks.
(00:26):
Nobody ever nailed it down, nobody ever went hard in
the paint. In fact, they handed him a non prosecution
agreement that is amazingly horrible, and nobody from his criminal
enterprise went to jail until Maxwell. With all of the
(00:49):
evidence that we have that is just in the circumstantial pile,
there is no reason that that should have occurred. People
that were working with Epstein, people that allegedly were working
with Epstein, they should have all been brought in the
(01:12):
first time around. But the prosecution didn't really care, did they.
They were more interested in painting a picture for the
grand jury of these girls being prostitutes and less than right.
Oh they kissed a boy on MySpace. Oh, they took
(01:34):
a hit a weed, whole weed. What was that. Oh
they were drinking beer. Oh no, they're drinking beers. I mean,
the whole thing from the very beginning was just absolutely
ridiculous and the type of thing you would see in
some sort of B film, a late night movie on
(01:55):
like one of Showtimes, like many auxiliary channels. Right, this
is a storyline that's not even believable in real life,
but yet here we are dealing with it. And now
in this new report, we're gonna get a little bit
more of a look behind the scenes as to why
(02:19):
Epstein was not pursued in twenty and sixteen. This article
is from the New York Daily News dot com headline
Manhattan federal prosecutors confirmed decision to not pursue Jeffrey Epstein
in two thousand and sixteen. This article was authored by
(02:39):
Stephen Rex Brown. Manhattan federal prosecutors confirmed in court papers
made public Friday that they chose not to pursue Jeffrey
Epstein in twenty and sixteen, with one former assistant US
attorney saying she felt horrible after learning of the perverts
abuse of the criminal justice system in Florida. You know,
(03:02):
this seems to be an ongoing theme with prosecutors and
police officers and people involved in this case. Oh, we
feel horrible. We have a lot of sorrow about what
you went through. But there's no recourse for you. There's
nothing we can do. We can't provide you with justice.
That's basically what everybody at every single turn has said.
(03:27):
Doesn't seem to be changing now either, does it. Same
old actors, same old script. The disclosure by the Southern
District of New York came in a two hundred and
twelve page filing responding to Glenn Maxwell's legal challenges to
an indictment charging her with grooming underage Epstein's survivors in
(03:50):
the mid nineteen nineties and lying under oath. So this
is just I mean, I don't understand how they can
come to terms with something like that. How do you
sit in your office and look at your colleagues and say, yeah, nah,
we're not gonna prosecute Nah, this is this is this
(04:12):
case doesn't warrant that. Meanwhile, if you go to a
protest these days, and I don't care if you're on
the left or the right, you can expect a visit
from from the FBI. Right, Oh, you're at a protest,
how dare you go and express your rights? Meanwhile, Jeffrey
(04:33):
Epstein's friends, they don't get a look. Nobody shows up
to talk to them. Ever, Oh, you're accusing somebody of
violating you sexually. Ah, we'll get to that when we
get to it. Flip side. You were at a political rally.
You belong in guantanamo. You're an insurgent. Everything's upside down
(04:54):
and down is up, up is down, left is right,
right is left. Who the hell knows anymore where we're at.
One thing should be locked and loaded and for damn sure,
and that is people like Maxwell and Epstein should never
be getting the homie hook up. The Daily News exclusively
(05:20):
revealed last year that lawyers for Epstein accusers met with
the Assistant US Attorney Amanda Kramer in twenty sixteen and
urged her to open an investigation of the notorious sex offender.
She didn't have any time for that, right twenty sixteen,
mister Preet still in charge. They're going full bore with
all of their politics at that point, right, the one
(05:45):
storied SDNY nothing more than a political arm of the elite. Now,
how pathetic, how disgusting, how discouraging. And these are the
people that we're putting all of our eggs in the
basket with to bring this case home. Huh. And you
wonder why I'm so cynical. The SDNY is not this
(06:11):
storied office. They're not this group of hard charging prosecutors.
They're more like Chuck Rhodes from Billions. Sources told the
News that they also urged her to investigate Maxwell, but
prosecutors wrote in a new filing that Epstein was the
(06:31):
main subject of the February twenty ninth, twenty sixteen sit
down in a conference room at SDNY headquarters in Lower Manhattan. Look,
if you're having a sit down about Epstein, you're having
a sit down about Maxwell as well. That's how connected
they were, right, So it should never be one without
(06:52):
the other. When we're talking about this criminal conspiracy. When
they're talking about just going after one person, then you
know that the fix is in because one person couldn't
have done what this enterprise did. It takes more than
one to longer this money. It takes more than one
(07:14):
to groom these girls. It takes more than one to
facilitate all of this stuff. And every single person who
had their fingers in the pie, every single person who
enriched themselves from these ill gotten gains, must be held accountable.
You know, they talk with a good game about wanting
(07:35):
to restore faith in the institutions and in the justice system.
But then they go off and do some wild shit
like always, and everybody's left shaking their head and talking
about what a travesty it is. Rinse and repeat over
and over and over again, and nothing ever gets done,
no one's ever held accountable, and changes are never made.
(07:59):
Long long are we gonna get caught up in this
repeat cycle. We need real changes, and we need people
like Epstein and Maxwell to be pursued to the very
ends of the earth, if that's what it takes. The
focus of the meeting was on Epstein, and Kramer understood
(08:23):
that the attorneys were advocating that the USAO United States
Attorney's Office SDNY opened an investigation into Epstein. Assistant US
Attorney Allison Moe wrote during the meeting, the attorneys referenced
multiple individuals who worked for and or helped Epstein, including Maxwell,
(08:44):
but the attorneys primarily focused their presentation on Epstein. Well,
that's because Epstein was the head of the dragon in
this regard, right, And if you cut the head off,
then you can go in and get the body. That's
how they usually do it. So they were working from
the top down when it comes to Epstein. Bring in
(09:04):
Epstein and then wrap up all of his associates and
a nice little bow under conspiracy charges. I'm guessing that's
the way they were going, even if they don't admit it.
You know, Look, the government said that they had no
plans of adding new charges to Maxwell, and then here
we are with the superseded indictment. I don't take anything
(09:25):
the government says to me at face value either. Folks
believe it. I've said it once, I'll say it a
million times. We're dealing with a pit of vipers on
both sides here. Kramer recently spoke to an FBI agent
in prosecutors on the Maxwell case about the twenty sixteen meeting.
Notes from the phone call, which were included in the
(09:45):
new filing, referred to Kramer by her initials AK. Kramer
had the impression that the lawyers who came in to
meet with Ak were disorganized. The notes read. She suspected
the survivors lawyers wanted the Feds to open a criminal
investigation because it would give them an upper hand in
civil litigation with Epstein. The documents reveal, Oh, yeah, so
(10:07):
that's what it was, huh, AK, You feel so bad.
But in other words, it was a money grab. Let's
just call it what it is. The sdn Y under
pret by the way, let's remember pret pret my best
friend Prete are the ones that did all of this.
They are the ones that's basically that said. According to
these documents, I didn't say it. They did that. The
(10:29):
reason you're pining for this is because you want a
better chance in your civil case. Boy, does the sdn
Y look stupid now? Or what? How's all that egg
on the face there, SDNY, do you want some ketchup
with your crow? Three years later, they indicte the guy.
(10:50):
Maybe if you would have paid attention all the way
in the nineties when people were telling you all the
way through his whole reign of terror, you guys would
have to stop them. But you had no interest in that,
did you. After the meeting, Kramer met with her then
supervisor dan Stein. The prosecutor recalled being concerned that Florida
(11:13):
FBI agents were allegedly not pleased with how an earlier
investigation into Epstein concluded, Oh, well, that's very magnanimous. That's
very nice of them. Okay, very very very nice of them,
Very magnanimous. I mean, we were happy with the way
(11:33):
the investigation went down, but we're just gonna put it
on the back burner and forget it. Ever happened, doesn't
where's the integrity? I mean, I get it. You don't
want to lose your job, right, FBI agents a good job,
probably making close to one hundred g's a year or something.
Nobody wants to lose a gig like that. But at
what point does it become a situation where you're you're
(11:57):
sacrificing your own morality for a few bucks. So Kramer
contacted the FBIS then head of Sex Crimes against Children
in New York, Sean Watson, and asked him to speak
with FBI agents in Florida. Kramer wanted Watson to ask
colleagues in the Sunshine State whether they were unhappy with
(12:18):
the outcome and felt like justice had not been served.
According to the notes, hold on a minute. If you're
a station chief or you're a field boss, I get it,
you want to talk to your employees and get a
feel right and see what's what. But let's be real,
you're the one that's making this choice. Don't try and
pass the buck. If I was this agent, forget sending
(12:43):
an email. I'd be at your door, knock, knock, knock. Hey,
did you get that email I sent you? Hey, hey, hey,
I got some problems over here. We're gonna need to
handle this. But no, we'll just forget about it. I'll
send them I sent them an email, but I got
no response, so we just forgot about it. I mean,
what talk about dereliction of duty? The inquiry he hit
(13:07):
a dead end after that. No Epstein investigation was opened
in response to the twenty sixteen meeting. Seawan never called
Ak back. Ak doesn't recall ever affirmatively following up with Sean,
but she took the radio silence to mean that the
FBI agents in Florida did not express this dissatisfaction. The
(13:27):
notes read, is this really? This is how the FBI works?
No wonder all of these different things happened to America.
These guys don't know their ass from their elbow. I
didn't hear back, so I just forgot about it. No
follow up, no phone call, no knock on the door. Now,
(13:48):
just forget about it. We'll let the most prolific sex
criminal in modern times, at the very least, just get
away with it. Ak and this Sean character both should
have their pensions yanked. Epstein survivors say the pervert used
his wealth and influence to avoid federal charges in Miami
(14:11):
in two thousand and eight, despite evidence he ran an
underage sex trafficking ring. Epstein pleaded guilty to state prostitution
charges in a highly unusual sweetheart deal with then Southern
District of Florida US Attorney Alex Acosta. We know that
that whole entire episode was maybe one of the lowest
(14:35):
points in the history of the United States judicial system.
And I mean that letting this guy off on that
NPA is absolutely there's not even words to describe how
disgusting it is. Epstein only served thirteen months in Palm
Beach County jail, including home releases, then allegedly continue to
(15:00):
abuse minors. The episode remains a major embarrassment for the
just US Department. Oh well, you tag it on to
all the major embarrassments that the Justice Department has under
its belt, and then you wonder why I'm so critical
of them. They need to get their act together, and
if they can't do it under current management, under current leadership,
(15:22):
then somebody who knows what the hell they're doing needs
to be brought in, or maybe just disband the whole
entire thing and start from the bottom up. And then
while you're at it, you can fire everybody at the
CIA and just bring Edward Snowden and Julian Assanjo over
to take care of that role. The Sordid Saga was
(15:47):
highlighted in a bombshell Miami Herald investigation published in November
twenty eighteen, which prompted my Manhattan prosecutors to open the
Epstein probe that resulted in his arrest for underage sex trafficking.
You know, it's crazy. They needed the embarrassment and the
egg on the face of an investigation being opened by
(16:08):
a newspaper to spur them into motion. Remember we're not
talking about a robber here. We're not talking about somebody
who was involved in, you know, some kind of financial scheme.
He was, but that's not his main crime. We're talking
about a prolific child trafficker. And nobody thought it would
(16:30):
be a good idea to open an investigation. You had
to wait till the Miami Herald absolutely exposed you and
embarrassed you. That's promising. Kramer Smoke spoke with her SDNY
colleagues after the story broke. Part of the reason Ak
felt horrible when reading the Miami Herald article was because
(16:53):
Ak took no action after calling Sean Watson. The notes read,
Oh yeah, well, I guess it's nice to feel sorry
the next day. Hey, right, guess what, Ak, You're not
getting let off the hook. You were in a position
to help. You were in a position to stop this.
None of us are. We're just common citizens who are
pissed off. You had a chance to stop it, and
you didn't. You should feel bad about it. Ak remembers
(17:18):
telling them that she felt terrible reading the Miami Herald series.
You know what, You're an FBI agent. You couldn't pull
the files from Florida and read the accounts of them
girls themselves. I don't believe that. Stop with the lip service,
Stop with the crocodile tears. I'm over here playing the
world's smallest violin for you there. Ak sources told the
(17:41):
News that Kramer had a second meeting with attorneys for
Epstein survivors in the summer of twenty sixteen, after Maxwell
was deposed in connection with a civil suit brought by
Epstein survivor for Ginia Roberts survivors. Lawyers David Boyce and
Stan Pottinger urged Kramer to consider charging Maxwell with lying
(18:02):
under oath. The sources said, oh yeah, and she didn't
do it. It took four more years for other agents
to come in and clean up your mess. It took
Alison Moe and the prosecution that's currently working on this
to clean up your mess at least a little bit.
(18:22):
And these are the people that we're relying on to
stop terrorism and narco trafficking and all of that stuff. Folks,
I'm sure you all feel real secure. Do me a
favor and make sure you lock your doors tonight. Prosecutors
wrote in the new filing that the second meeting never happened,
though Kramer did have a phone call with Pottinger on
(18:45):
May second, twenty sixteen. This, you know what, They've been
nothing but devious the whole time. Let's not forget the
year long chain of emails that disappeared with Acosta and
his bosses over all of this shit. You know, it's
to the point now where I can't help but just
being utterly cynical and sarcastic about the whole entire government
(19:06):
portion of this they are absolutely disgusting. Kramer does not
recall the details of that conversation, nor is the government
aware of any notes or other records documenting the substance
of the call. Moe wrote in the filing. So there's
(19:28):
no record of it. Nobody knows anything. No one's the wiser,
and the government can have the stance of, oh, this
never happens. We don't know what you're talking about. SDNY
wrote it could find no records indicating Kramer communicated with
attorneys for Epstein and Maxwell accusers after May third, twenty
(19:50):
and sixteen. Maxwell is accused of lying in depositions in
April and July twenty and sixteen. Her legal team argues
survivors attorneys were improperly in cahoots with the Feds, compromising
aspects of her criminal case. She has pleaded not guilty.
Oh yeah, they were so in kahoots with the feds,
(20:13):
her lawyers that all of these prosecutions came in twenty sixteen. Right,
do me a favor. Maxwell's legal team go back to
the drawing board and start all over, because it's starting
to look like you guys straight up suck. If you'd
like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo bbu Y c
(20:36):
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find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap u Cci.
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be found in the description
All right, So today, what we're going to talk about
here on the program is a new report from the
Daily News about the decision to not pursue Epstein in
two thousand and sixteen. We know that this prosecution of
Epstein from the very beginning was absolute gobbage, hot, stinking gobbage, folks.
(00:26):
Nobody ever nailed it down, nobody ever went hard in
the paint. In fact, they handed him a non prosecution
agreement that is amazingly horrible, and nobody from his criminal
enterprise went to jail until Maxwell. With all of the
(00:49):
evidence that we have that is just in the circumstantial pile,
there is no reason that that should have occurred. People
that were working with Epstein, people that allegedly were working
with Epstein, they should have all been brought in the
(01:12):
first time around. But the prosecution didn't really care, did they.
They were more interested in painting a picture for the
grand jury of these girls being prostitutes and less than right.
Oh they kissed a boy on MySpace. Oh, they took
(01:34):
a hit a weed, whole weed. What was that. Oh
they were drinking beer. Oh no, they're drinking beers. I mean,
the whole thing from the very beginning was just absolutely
ridiculous and the type of thing you would see in
some sort of B film, a late night movie on
(01:55):
like one of Showtimes, like many auxiliary channels. Right, this
is a storyline that's not even believable in real life,
but yet here we are dealing with it. And now
in this new report, we're gonna get a little bit
more of a look behind the scenes as to why
(02:19):
Epstein was not pursued in twenty and sixteen. This article
is from the New York Daily News dot com headline
Manhattan federal prosecutors confirmed decision to not pursue Jeffrey Epstein
in two thousand and sixteen. This article was authored by
(02:39):
Stephen Rex Brown. Manhattan federal prosecutors confirmed in court papers
made public Friday that they chose not to pursue Jeffrey
Epstein in twenty and sixteen, with one former assistant US
attorney saying she felt horrible after learning of the perverts
abuse of the criminal justice system in Florida. You know,
(03:02):
this seems to be an ongoing theme with prosecutors and
police officers and people involved in this case. Oh, we
feel horrible. We have a lot of sorrow about what
you went through. But there's no recourse for you. There's
nothing we can do. We can't provide you with justice.
That's basically what everybody at every single turn has said.
(03:27):
Doesn't seem to be changing now either, does it. Same
old actors, same old script. The disclosure by the Southern
District of New York came in a two hundred and
twelve page filing responding to Glenn Maxwell's legal challenges to
an indictment charging her with grooming underage Epstein's survivors in
(03:50):
the mid nineteen nineties and lying under oath. So this
is just I mean, I don't understand how they can
come to terms with something like that. How do you
sit in your office and look at your colleagues and say, yeah, nah,
we're not gonna prosecute Nah, this is this is this
(04:12):
case doesn't warrant that. Meanwhile, if you go to a
protest these days, and I don't care if you're on
the left or the right, you can expect a visit
from from the FBI. Right, Oh, you're at a protest,
how dare you go and express your rights? Meanwhile, Jeffrey
(04:33):
Epstein's friends, they don't get a look. Nobody shows up
to talk to them. Ever, Oh, you're accusing somebody of
violating you sexually. Ah, we'll get to that when we
get to it. Flip side. You were at a political rally.
You belong in guantanamo. You're an insurgent. Everything's upside down
(04:54):
and down is up, up is down, left is right,
right is left. Who the hell knows anymore where we're at.
One thing should be locked and loaded and for damn sure,
and that is people like Maxwell and Epstein should never
be getting the homie hook up. The Daily News exclusively
(05:20):
revealed last year that lawyers for Epstein accusers met with
the Assistant US Attorney Amanda Kramer in twenty sixteen and
urged her to open an investigation of the notorious sex offender.
She didn't have any time for that, right twenty sixteen,
mister Preet still in charge. They're going full bore with
all of their politics at that point, right, the one
(05:45):
storied SDNY nothing more than a political arm of the elite. Now,
how pathetic, how disgusting, how discouraging. And these are the
people that we're putting all of our eggs in the
basket with to bring this case home. Huh. And you
wonder why I'm so cynical. The SDNY is not this
(06:11):
storied office. They're not this group of hard charging prosecutors.
They're more like Chuck Rhodes from Billions. Sources told the
News that they also urged her to investigate Maxwell, but
prosecutors wrote in a new filing that Epstein was the
(06:31):
main subject of the February twenty ninth, twenty sixteen sit
down in a conference room at SDNY headquarters in Lower Manhattan. Look,
if you're having a sit down about Epstein, you're having
a sit down about Maxwell as well. That's how connected
they were, right, So it should never be one without
(06:52):
the other. When we're talking about this criminal conspiracy. When
they're talking about just going after one person, then you
know that the fix is in because one person couldn't
have done what this enterprise did. It takes more than
one to longer this money. It takes more than one
(07:14):
to groom these girls. It takes more than one to
facilitate all of this stuff. And every single person who
had their fingers in the pie, every single person who
enriched themselves from these ill gotten gains, must be held accountable.
You know, they talk with a good game about wanting
(07:35):
to restore faith in the institutions and in the justice system.
But then they go off and do some wild shit
like always, and everybody's left shaking their head and talking
about what a travesty it is. Rinse and repeat over
and over and over again, and nothing ever gets done,
no one's ever held accountable, and changes are never made.
(07:59):
Long long are we gonna get caught up in this
repeat cycle. We need real changes, and we need people
like Epstein and Maxwell to be pursued to the very
ends of the earth, if that's what it takes. The
focus of the meeting was on Epstein, and Kramer understood
(08:23):
that the attorneys were advocating that the USAO United States
Attorney's Office SDNY opened an investigation into Epstein. Assistant US
Attorney Allison Moe wrote during the meeting, the attorneys referenced
multiple individuals who worked for and or helped Epstein, including Maxwell,
(08:44):
but the attorneys primarily focused their presentation on Epstein. Well,
that's because Epstein was the head of the dragon in
this regard, right, And if you cut the head off,
then you can go in and get the body. That's
how they usually do it. So they were working from
the top down when it comes to Epstein. Bring in
(09:04):
Epstein and then wrap up all of his associates and
a nice little bow under conspiracy charges. I'm guessing that's
the way they were going, even if they don't admit it.
You know, Look, the government said that they had no
plans of adding new charges to Maxwell, and then here
we are with the superseded indictment. I don't take anything
(09:25):
the government says to me at face value either. Folks
believe it. I've said it once, I'll say it a
million times. We're dealing with a pit of vipers on
both sides here. Kramer recently spoke to an FBI agent
in prosecutors on the Maxwell case about the twenty sixteen meeting.
Notes from the phone call, which were included in the
(09:45):
new filing, referred to Kramer by her initials AK. Kramer
had the impression that the lawyers who came in to
meet with Ak were disorganized. The notes read. She suspected
the survivors lawyers wanted the Feds to open a criminal
investigation because it would give them an upper hand in
civil litigation with Epstein. The documents reveal, Oh, yeah, so
(10:07):
that's what it was, huh, AK, You feel so bad.
But in other words, it was a money grab. Let's
just call it what it is. The sdn Y under
pret by the way, let's remember pret pret my best
friend Prete are the ones that did all of this.
They are the ones that's basically that said. According to
these documents, I didn't say it. They did that. The
(10:29):
reason you're pining for this is because you want a
better chance in your civil case. Boy, does the sdn
Y look stupid now? Or what? How's all that egg
on the face there, SDNY, do you want some ketchup
with your crow? Three years later, they indicte the guy.
(10:50):
Maybe if you would have paid attention all the way
in the nineties when people were telling you all the
way through his whole reign of terror, you guys would
have to stop them. But you had no interest in that,
did you. After the meeting, Kramer met with her then
supervisor dan Stein. The prosecutor recalled being concerned that Florida
(11:13):
FBI agents were allegedly not pleased with how an earlier
investigation into Epstein concluded, Oh, well, that's very magnanimous. That's
very nice of them. Okay, very very very nice of them,
Very magnanimous. I mean, we were happy with the way
(11:33):
the investigation went down, but we're just gonna put it
on the back burner and forget it. Ever happened, doesn't
where's the integrity? I mean, I get it. You don't
want to lose your job, right, FBI agents a good job,
probably making close to one hundred g's a year or something.
Nobody wants to lose a gig like that. But at
what point does it become a situation where you're you're
(11:57):
sacrificing your own morality for a few bucks. So Kramer
contacted the FBIS then head of Sex Crimes against Children
in New York, Sean Watson, and asked him to speak
with FBI agents in Florida. Kramer wanted Watson to ask
colleagues in the Sunshine State whether they were unhappy with
(12:18):
the outcome and felt like justice had not been served.
According to the notes, hold on a minute. If you're
a station chief or you're a field boss, I get it,
you want to talk to your employees and get a
feel right and see what's what. But let's be real,
you're the one that's making this choice. Don't try and
pass the buck. If I was this agent, forget sending
(12:43):
an email. I'd be at your door, knock, knock, knock. Hey,
did you get that email I sent you? Hey, hey, hey,
I got some problems over here. We're gonna need to
handle this. But no, we'll just forget about it. I'll
send them I sent them an email, but I got
no response, so we just forgot about it. I mean,
what talk about dereliction of duty? The inquiry he hit
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a dead end after that. No Epstein investigation was opened
in response to the twenty sixteen meeting. Seawan never called
Ak back. Ak doesn't recall ever affirmatively following up with Sean,
but she took the radio silence to mean that the
FBI agents in Florida did not express this dissatisfaction. The
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notes read, is this really? This is how the FBI works?
No wonder all of these different things happened to America.
These guys don't know their ass from their elbow. I
didn't hear back, so I just forgot about it. No
follow up, no phone call, no knock on the door. Now,
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just forget about it. We'll let the most prolific sex
criminal in modern times, at the very least, just get
away with it. Ak and this Sean character both should
have their pensions yanked. Epstein survivors say the pervert used
his wealth and influence to avoid federal charges in Miami
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in two thousand and eight, despite evidence he ran an
underage sex trafficking ring. Epstein pleaded guilty to state prostitution
charges in a highly unusual sweetheart deal with then Southern
District of Florida US Attorney Alex Acosta. We know that
that whole entire episode was maybe one of the lowest
(14:35):
points in the history of the United States judicial system.
And I mean that letting this guy off on that
NPA is absolutely there's not even words to describe how
disgusting it is. Epstein only served thirteen months in Palm
Beach County jail, including home releases, then allegedly continue to
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abuse minors. The episode remains a major embarrassment for the
just US Department. Oh well, you tag it on to
all the major embarrassments that the Justice Department has under
its belt, and then you wonder why I'm so critical
of them. They need to get their act together, and
if they can't do it under current management, under current leadership,
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then somebody who knows what the hell they're doing needs
to be brought in, or maybe just disband the whole
entire thing and start from the bottom up. And then
while you're at it, you can fire everybody at the
CIA and just bring Edward Snowden and Julian Assanjo over
to take care of that role. The Sordid Saga was
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highlighted in a bombshell Miami Herald investigation published in November
twenty eighteen, which prompted my Manhattan prosecutors to open the
Epstein probe that resulted in his arrest for underage sex trafficking.
You know, it's crazy. They needed the embarrassment and the
egg on the face of an investigation being opened by
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a newspaper to spur them into motion. Remember we're not
talking about a robber here. We're not talking about somebody
who was involved in, you know, some kind of financial scheme.
He was, but that's not his main crime. We're talking
about a prolific child trafficker. And nobody thought it would
(16:30):
be a good idea to open an investigation. You had
to wait till the Miami Herald absolutely exposed you and
embarrassed you. That's promising. Kramer Smoke spoke with her SDNY
colleagues after the story broke. Part of the reason Ak
felt horrible when reading the Miami Herald article was because
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Ak took no action after calling Sean Watson. The notes read,
Oh yeah, well, I guess it's nice to feel sorry
the next day. Hey, right, guess what, Ak, You're not
getting let off the hook. You were in a position
to help. You were in a position to stop this.
None of us are. We're just common citizens who are
pissed off. You had a chance to stop it, and
you didn't. You should feel bad about it. Ak remembers
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telling them that she felt terrible reading the Miami Herald series.
You know what, You're an FBI agent. You couldn't pull
the files from Florida and read the accounts of them
girls themselves. I don't believe that. Stop with the lip service,
Stop with the crocodile tears. I'm over here playing the
world's smallest violin for you there. Ak sources told the
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News that Kramer had a second meeting with attorneys for
Epstein survivors in the summer of twenty sixteen, after Maxwell
was deposed in connection with a civil suit brought by
Epstein survivor for Ginia Roberts survivors. Lawyers David Boyce and
Stan Pottinger urged Kramer to consider charging Maxwell with lying
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under oath. The sources said, oh yeah, and she didn't
do it. It took four more years for other agents
to come in and clean up your mess. It took
Alison Moe and the prosecution that's currently working on this
to clean up your mess at least a little bit.
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And these are the people that we're relying on to
stop terrorism and narco trafficking and all of that stuff. Folks,
I'm sure you all feel real secure. Do me a
favor and make sure you lock your doors tonight. Prosecutors
wrote in the new filing that the second meeting never happened,
though Kramer did have a phone call with Pottinger on
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May second, twenty sixteen. This, you know what, They've been
nothing but devious the whole time. Let's not forget the
year long chain of emails that disappeared with Acosta and
his bosses over all of this shit. You know, it's
to the point now where I can't help but just
being utterly cynical and sarcastic about the whole entire government
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portion of this they are absolutely disgusting. Kramer does not
recall the details of that conversation, nor is the government
aware of any notes or other records documenting the substance
of the call. Moe wrote in the filing. So there's
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no record of it. Nobody knows anything. No one's the wiser,
and the government can have the stance of, oh, this
never happens. We don't know what you're talking about. SDNY
wrote it could find no records indicating Kramer communicated with
attorneys for Epstein and Maxwell accusers after May third, twenty
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and sixteen. Maxwell is accused of lying in depositions in
April and July twenty and sixteen. Her legal team argues
survivors attorneys were improperly in cahoots with the Feds, compromising
aspects of her criminal case. She has pleaded not guilty.
Oh yeah, they were so in kahoots with the feds,
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her lawyers that all of these prosecutions came in twenty sixteen. Right,
do me a favor. Maxwell's legal team go back to
the drawing board and start all over, because it's starting
to look like you guys straight up suck. If you'd
like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo bbu Y c
(20:36):
ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also
find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap u Cci.
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