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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have an article tonight from the Daily News. It's
gonna talk about how Jeffrey Epstein, his body being moved
after he was killed or committed.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Suicide, well, violated.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Federal prison guidelines. We've been saying that since the beginning.
Why is it taking the Daily News or the rest
of these outlets this long term report that this is
not how things work. Also, they're supposed to show up
with some handheld cameras. They don't just show up there
willy nilly and decide, hey, well we got a guy
who supposedly killed himself here. The cameras are all broken.
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We're not gonna record any of this. We're not gonna
document any of this. It's not how that works. Not
on any of this works. So what happens is they
show up and multiple officers have handheld cameras or at
least one officer has a handheld camera, and they document
the crime scene. Well, his body was not supposed to
be moved, and it was Now my question to you
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is this, was anybody in that jail at the time
of Epstein's death, Did anybody in the follow up of
his death or leading into his death, Was anyone doing
their job in the whole entire facility. And if not,
why do any of these people still have jobs? How
come the only two people that have taken a fall,
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that have been in trouble, that have been busted are
the two guards that supposedly fell asleep. There was a
lot of bad, bad, egregious behavior that took place that evening.
Guards falling asleep, the body being moved, the camera situation,
nobody having answers, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Now
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they wonder why people would ask themselves or friends or
others now that the Internet is around. Did they really
think that people were just going to accept their line,
their narrative. Did they think with people just accept it
and that would be it. Nobody would ask questions, Nobody
would dig a little deeper. It's as if they think
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they have like this credibility that can't be. It's unassailable.
News flash, FBI, Department of Justice, Department of Corrections. You
have zero credibility. Okay, nobody believes you either. You're about
as credible as Prince Andrew at this point. The fact
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of the matter is everybody was negligent this day. That
is one big coincidence that so many people were negligent.
And what I also find funny is that we read
earlier about the sixty minutes interview and they're going to
go into the cell and some of the different things
they found in there. Well, now it's coming out that
they found an extension cord in there, they found some
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prescription medication in there, they found way more bed sheets
than one inmate.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
But my question is this, why would he choose bed
sheets as his method? If he had access to an
extension cord in there, wouldn't the extension chord pretty much
guarantee you get the result that you're looking for if
you use that. But the bed sheets. Look, I'm no
expert in suicide, folks, or death by strangulation. That's certainly
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not my expertise there. So I'm just asking questions here.
I know, if it was me and I was looking
to get results, would it be some sheets or would
I use the extension cord? I would use the extension cord.
But I guess the real question is why did this
man have access to any of this stuff in there?
(03:43):
Oh there was a note written as well, I guess,
a handwritten note, and that was basically the update from
the article we had earlier, and then they go into
a whole bunch of other stuff in those articles about,
you know, stuff we've covered a million times. So I
just wanted to give you the juicy part of that.
And I wonder what the notes said. I haven't seen
any reports on what the note contained, what the page
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the notes contained. I'm curious to see what that was.
If they're going to release it. They might not even
release it. Who knows what's going to be in this
CBS the CBS sixty minutes. I'm certainly going to watch,
and I would suggest that everybody else who's interested in
the case watch, because A we can't get enough information
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because we're all crazy about this case. And B even
in these cases, these expos a's, or these segments or
these articles where it seems like we're going over things again,
there's always the chance that there's a new nugget inside
of these articles. And that's why it's it's so painstakingly
long to cover this case, because each article drops a
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new nugget. Right So unless you have the time to
read through these articles and truly understand what's going on
and to get the big picture, how could you ever
have educated opinion of this situation, and the media will
never ever go into depth deep enough to truly give
you an idea of what's going on the whole blackmail situation.
(05:11):
They were, they're just coming to the table with that.
We've been talking about that since the very beginning, folks,
since the very beginning of this podcast, we've been talking
about the blackmail ankle. And it's funny that the legacy
media called everybody who talked about that conspiracy theorists. And
now it's becoming commonplace, even in the legacy media for
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people to accept that this was a blackmail operation. See,
the thing is this, folks, They only do the media
what their buddies and intelligence tells them to do. Like
I was saying earlier, it's a symbiotic relationship. It's a
parasitical they're both parasites.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Living off of each other.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But what happened the day that Jeffrey Epstein died, none
of us are ever gonna probably know, let's be real,
We're never gonna get to see the tapes that bar
supposedly saw.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, right, I don't believe a word this man says.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And it has nothing to do with the fact that
his dad was a teacher at the school Epstein worked
at in the seventies. None of that jazz. It's to
the fact that I just don't trust Bar in general.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He's not a trustworthy player in this case. There's too
many big people that are involved, and too many people
that he has previous relationships with. Let's be real, He's
a bureaucrat of the highest order. He's been in governed,
you know, public government, of public service for so long Bush,
et cetera, et cetera, through nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I'm not a fan of Bar and I have zero
confidence that he's going to prosecute this the right way.
What I'm hoping for is a maverick agent. I'm hoping
for a mid level agent or a case agent that
has had enough and pushes it through. We've seen it
before in cases, folks, we have seen it before. And
I know there's good people working for the FBI, and
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hopefully one of those people this case will come across
their desk and they will go after this case with
all the z and all the gusto it deserves, and
then they'll force their bosses into actually taking some sort
of action in the case.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Right, all right, So if you'd like to.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapucci at
ProtonMail dot com. That's bobbycap Ucci at ProtonMail dot com.
All right, let's get to the article. The article is
from the Daily News. It was published today at eleven
to fifty one am Eastern Standard time, and the author
of the article is Larry McShane. The Guard Too moved
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billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's body from a Manhattan prison cell
after his jailhouse suicide. Alleged suicide violated federal protocol, according
to a new report. Yeah you think I said that
right away? I said, what in the hell you're talking about?
They moved his body. It's a crime scene, for God's sakes,
at the very least, it might be a crime scene.
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You can't disturb that, you can't disrupt that. You can't
come in there with fifteen morons that don't know what
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Are you kidding me? Right now?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
No, that's not normal, said forensic pathologist doctor Michael Bodden
in a sixty minutes interview airing Sunday on CBS. The
EMS people normally and especially in a.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Jail should not move a dead body. No crap, no crap.
You don't move a.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Dead body until the investigation has been taking place.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Especially a high profile guy like Jeffrey Epstein? What is
going on in that jail? If this is just poor
job performance and people not knowing their job, everybody should
be fired.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Everybody involved needs to be fired.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Then from the warden on down, everybody needs to be fired,
and a whole new regime needs to be hired and broadened,
because this is absolutely ridiculous, folks. Under Federal Bureau of
Prisons protocol, a suicide scene must be treated with the
same level of protection as any crime scene in which
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a death has occurred. Yeah, no shit, all right, this
is pretty basic stuff here. I'm certainly not you know,
an FBI investigator or anything, or some big wig in
the prisons, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, but I have
a little bit of common sense, and common sense says,
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do not touch that body.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Wouldn't you want to make sure that all of.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Your eyes are dotted and your teaser crossed, especially after
you've just realized your colleagues were asleep at the wheel
and they falsified logs. Don't you think in the follow
up investigation you would have everything buttoned up and ready
to go?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Is this their first day?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I know in the management position, I could be on
vacation and if one of my eployees didn't get the
proper paperwork after somebody, want to bet forget it, I'd
get four thousand phone calls on vacation over something like that.
And you mean to tell me that these guys flubbed
this whole entire thing up from watching the man to
investigating his death. And only those two prison guards are
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under the microscope. They're the only ones who were charged that,
my friends, is what you call bs. Epstein sixty six
was discovered by Federal Corrections guards shortly after six point
thirty am on August tenth, with one of the workers
heard saying breathe Epstein, breathe. Okay, sure, so they released
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that detail, right, Why would they release that detail?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
The guy's been dead for two hours? What do you
mean breathe? Riga mortis already has started to set in.
I bet breathe, What do you mean breathe?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I think that was added on. I think that's a
little bit of a little bit of theater. I think
they added that on to make it look like they were, oh,
we're here to help. He was taken to New York
Presbyteria and Lower Manhattan Hospital but was already beyond resuscitation. Yeah,
you think they left him in there?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
He was, He was rock solid. Ard. The guy looked like,
you know, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Right now? All right, this guy ends up looking like
Carbone from Goodfellas in the freezer. You're telling me, Oh,
he couldn't be resuscitated. Yeah, no, shit, he couldn't be resuscitated.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
He's dead for two hours.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
A nationally renowned pathologist hired by Epstein's brother Mark to
investigate the death believes the federal inmate died about two
hours earlier. Two hours earlier, and you're trying to give
him CPR and resuscitate him. I got news for you,
And I know this is gonna be breaking news and
it's gonna be hard to swallow, all right, but he
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was dead for two hours. You're not going to be
able to pump his chest. You're not going to be
able to bring him back. All right, there, prison guards,
thanks for coming to my ted talk. A pair of
prison guards were indicted last year for falsifying prison logs
and records in a cover up of their failure to
check on Epstein every thirty minutes as required in the
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defendant special housing unit. The City Medical Examiner officially declared
Epstein's at the suicide.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, there it is, folks. It was officially.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Declared by the New York City Medical Examiner. So we
can all pack it in. No more discussions. How dare
you discuss it? The official word has been sent down
except what they say, except what your overlord say. Your
rulers have told you what it is. Yeah, right, So
we're not supposed to question it because the City Medical
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Examiner officially said it was a suicide. Sorry, she said
it was a suicide. Boden says, otherwise, who are we
to believe? I leave that up to you, folks. Although
his shocking demise led to immediate speculation about a more
uh more sinister end for the accused sex trafficker an
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abuser of underage girls, Epstein after a prior suicide attempt
inside a Manhattan correctional center that's un corroborated. We don't
know if he definitely tried to commit suicide. He was
in there with somebody that was being accused of four homicides, folks,
Nicholas Tartaglioni o by, So you're telling me that you
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have the only person that you can put into jail
with Jeffrey Epstein is Nicholas Tartagleone, a big, muscle bound,
meathead looking dude who is in there accused of killing
people in a drug.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Deal gone bad. And then you want to know why.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
We're asking questions if Epstein was attacked or if he
tried to commit suicide. So what was Tartaglioni sitting there
with his headphones in and a blindfold on as Epstein
began to commit suicide and then only jumped in afterwards.
Or was it more likely that Tartaglioni attacked Epstein? And
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I'm not saying he was paid to do that or anything,
but at the end of the day, he's in prison.
They're both in prison, and there's nothing worse in prison
than a child molester. Tartaglioni, an ex cop who is
definitely on the same wrong almost as child molester's in prison,
figures he can gain some cred by going after Epstein.
Seems like a logical conclusion, right or Tartaglioni was laying
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on his bed waiting around. Epstein tried to hang himself
from the top bunk. Tartaglioni let him hang himself for
a little while, but then maybe he thought better of
it and decided to step in and be the hero.
That doesn't make any sense to me, folks, all right,
zero sense, And it does not make any sense to
me that Tartaglioni was even in that cell for one
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single minute. Epstein, after a prior suicide attempt inside the
Manhattan Correctional Center, allegedly had only recently returned to his
cell after a stint under psychological evaluation in a jail
medical wing. The Bureau of Prisons declined to comment Friday
on the protocol violation, saying the Epstein case is currently
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under investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigations and the
Department of Justice Office of Inspector General, so that means
Michael Horowitz, the man who uncovered the seventeen FEISA irregularities,
is also investigating this case. Epstein pleaded guilty in two
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thousand and eight to soliciting a minor for prostitution in
Florida in a sweetheart deal with prosecutors, but faced a
virtual life sentence of forty five years in prison if
convicted on the new charges leveled by federal prosecutors. All right,
so again we see how many chambers are in this case.
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We see how many different.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Layers there are in this rabbit hole.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Every day it's something new, folks, every single day, it's
something new. The fact that his body was moved after
he committed suicide has always been laughable to me that
nobody has talked about that. There's very few people that
have brought that up. And you do not move a body,
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especially in a situation like this with a man like
Jeffrey Epstein. You make sure everything is buttoned up. It
is just unconscionable that it was that big of a failure.
All of a sudden they have Jeffrey Epstein in there,
and it's that big of a failure. This is the
same place that's held El Chapo. This is the same
place that held John Gotti. This is the same place
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that has held insert crazy mofo here and host Jeffrey
Epstein's the one that this happens too, Folks. A day
after the treasure trove of documents is released.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'll leave it up to you to decide.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't have the answers one way or the other,
but I will tell you this, something does not smell right.
If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O
B B Y C A p U C C I
at ProtonMail dot com.