August 26, 2025 • 31 mins
“Eric Scheidler is a second generation pro-life activist, the oldest of Joe and Ann Scheidler’s children. He was only 6 years old when his parents first got involved in the pro-life movement, shortly before the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court ruling that stripped unborn children of their legal right to life in 1973. Eric grew up attending protests and rallies, leafleting neighborhoods and talking about abortion with friends and classmates.
Eric has been involved with the work of the Pro-Life Action League since its founding in 1980, stuffing envelopes during the League’s early years and working occasional summers during college.”
Thank you for watching The Ever-Living Podcast, a heartfelt space to share the stories and voices of women who champion a culture that values and protects life. Each episode we seek to empower, offering connection, hope, and strength through the journeys of those who work and pray for this cause. Crafted for women seeking purpose and community, we welcome you to join us in cherishing every single heartbeat.
Eric has been involved with the work of the Pro-Life Action League since its founding in 1980, stuffing envelopes during the League’s early years and working occasional summers during college.”
Thank you for watching The Ever-Living Podcast, a heartfelt space to share the stories and voices of women who champion a culture that values and protects life. Each episode we seek to empower, offering connection, hope, and strength through the journeys of those who work and pray for this cause. Crafted for women seeking purpose and community, we welcome you to join us in cherishing every single heartbeat.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, it more sounds like pro choice becomes it's really
anti choice or pro force or like anti support, you know,
like that's I mean to not to have coerced abortions.
(00:26):
That is like reminiscent of other countries that you know
coerce abortion, like send.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
People to yah, well it's a it's illegal. Like it's
a it's illegal. And I think you know you're talking
about there certain situations where it's like, Okay, it's a
financial reason, and it's a house or a housing region reason,
and obviously we can provide resources to a woman in
that situation. But I think even exactly if it's like
coerce and they're being told like I'm gonna kill you
or I'm gonna throw you out of my house. Like
(00:53):
one thing I that just made me think of is
the Justice Foundation. I know they have their Center Again
and Forced Abortions, and that's a resource for women who
may feel that they're being coerced into an abortion and
they have a boyfriend who's like, you know, even I'm
gonna break up with you if you don't have this baby.
(01:13):
The Center for the Justice Foundation and their Center Against
Forced Abortions has resources for it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, they have an affidavit that a woman can sign
so that you could present to a pregnancy center to
say I don't want this abortion. And I remember what
we had a real, real heartbreaking situation here in I
live in the suburbs of Chicago, a suburb called Aurora,
and Aurora is home to one of the largest abortion
clinics in the country. Actually, I think it might even
(01:41):
be the largest now because there was a bigger one
in Texas that just shut down. I'm not sure about that,
but it's it's huge and then very very busy. And
one day we got a call from a pregnancy center
in Indiana. A client had just left who was heading
to Illinois to get an abortion that she didn't want,
and they had the affidavit she had signed saying I
do not want this abortion. My mother's trying to force me.
(02:04):
She was inside the planned parented facility in Aurora when
I got this information, and I contacted the police, and
it was so hard to get them to even call
a squad out there. I finally convinced them to do that.
So I'm having to fight with the police to care
about this. An officer comes out and again it was
(02:24):
pulling teeth to say, look, I've got the girl's signature
right here. She's in there and she doesn't want this abortion.
He finally went into the place, got her out, sent
her off with her sister, get her and getting her
away from the mom who's trying to force her into
the abortion, so that she can get some distance from
the mom. And the sister was trying to support her.
(02:44):
So we had a brief, brief victory where the abortion
was stayed for a few weeks. But later the pregnancy
center in Indiana told us that the mom finally prevailed
over the girl and they got the abortion at the
Prime Parented Center in Meryllville, Indiana. This was before abortion
was band in Indiana, of course, so was before the
Dobs ruling had come down, So that that was a
(03:05):
tremendous heartbreaker because we worked so hard. I mean I
was I was eating breakfast when I got the call,
and I jumped out of my house, jumped in the car,
ran off the plan parents and I'm calling the lawyers.
I'm calling the police, you know, I'm trying to find
talking to the pregnancy center. I mean I had four
or five different people, you know, attorneys at the Thomas
(03:27):
Moore society that helps to helps us to get the
police to be responsible for things like this and to
defend the rights of pro activists. We had them working.
I mean, so many people were trying to save this
one baby's life and to help this one mom to
be able to make the choice she really wanted. And
we were able to do that for a short time,
but ultimately we weren't there. We didn't have enough. Maybe
(03:51):
with our the resources available in Indiana, maybe the legal
situation with course of abortion, maybe we don't have strong
enough laws on this stuff. We weren't able to save
that baby. And it was a heartbreaker when we found
out that the woman had actually because at first we
thought we'd saved it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Life that day.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah we had, we had. We did save a life
that day, but now not forever. H And I believe
that all those efforts are still worth it. I think
God cares about that type of work. And and we learned,
we learned a little bit about how to how to
address those situations, and we were able to reach out
to our side well counselors across the country and you know,
(04:29):
help them be better prepared so than that suddenly blindsided
by this kind of thing, so good things came out
of it, but a life was lost and my mom
was hurt that day.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So I think it just shows just you know, obviously
we talk about it like we talk about it, you know,
in the statistics, but I think sometimes like the stories,
like the fact that you actually have had a situation
where this has happened and a woman has been coerced
into an abortion, and even even though you guys try
to stop it, like it just shows like this is
happening every day across the country.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You know. I was having a kind of conversation with
my hairdresser a couple of months ago. She's pro choice,
and the issue of abortion to come up once or
twice before when she when we talked about my work,
but it had always been kind of like or not,
you know, we never really talked about it. It was
a little uncomfortable. But for some reason that one day
we started chatting about it some more and the issue
(05:21):
of unwanted abortion came up.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
She was telling me, and she told me that she
had a friend who who had had an abortion in
high school under pressure from her mom. She didn't want
the abortion. She did not want it was under control
of her parents and forced to get this abortion. Years later,
she married, she had a baby. That baby turned out
(05:45):
to be disabled, very very severely disabled, and in an institution.
And she says her friend every day. Maybe that's some exaggeration,
but she told me that every day her friend says
that she deserved to have a disabled child because of
the abortion that she had. She thought she was being punished.
(06:06):
So my friend, who was pro choice, was very very
open to hearing about unwanted abortions because she had a
friend who'd been through one and who had hurt so badly.
So even as she was defending abortion, you know, and
she herself had been a victim of sexual assault and
that was an issue very important to her. Abortion in
the cases of sexual assault. Nevertheless, she was very open
(06:27):
to talking about how we can protect women from unwanted abortion.
So I have, you know, in my own experience, I
had strong proof that the stories we tell can lead
to building common ground on this issue, in building bridges
so we can have more conversations and talk about other
kinds of abortion and other sorrows of abortion that we
(06:48):
could work on in the future.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, Eric, do you do you think it ties into
like coerced abortion through abortion pills like just you know,
unknown I'm unknowingly taken or even coursed abortion because of
sex trafficking.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
What about when you went Once you've opened the door
to talking about unwanted abortion, now we can talk about
how this touches other areas. I already mentioned the area
of offering support to moms. Once we know that two
thirds of women likely would choose something else if they
(07:29):
were given help, That inspires us to give help. That
inspires us to to to give help, both through private
charity and through through public channels, you know, to offer
like one of the things Senator Josh Holly has been
very active on is the area of flexible work hours.
You know, you wouldn't think you don't when you think
of abortion, you don't think of flexible work hours. But
in fact, for a mom who cannot schedule a pre
(07:52):
native visit ever because her schedule is going to be
set a few days before she has to work, a
pregnancy test is a test of her employment. You know
you're pregnant, now you cannot you cannot schedule a prenatal test.
Your boss won't let you. How are you gonna? How
are you gonna even can think about saying yes to
(08:13):
that pregnancy. You know, abortion is the only sensible thing
to do if if you don't have a you know,
a strong ideological reason against it that you that you're
you know, that you've been formed to believe in. So,
you know, areas like that are places where where we
could try to help, where we can have policies that
we wouldn't have thought of as affecting a woman's choice
(08:35):
to get an abortion or not, but then actually do
play an important role. The area of abortion pills. That's another,
as you raised, it's another very important one. Once we've
established with somebody that there's such a thing as unwanted abortion,
that we can say, you know, when you think about it,
these pills present a big problem because a boyfriend can
sneak of Memphi pristone pill into his girlfriend's you know,
(08:58):
mashed potatoes.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And yeah, there was a story in the news today
about about I think it's a Texas lawsuit of a
woman who's suing her like ex boyfriend because you put
it in her hot chocolate. She didn't. It was coerced abortion.
Like that's insane, Like it happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
If you're truly pro choice, then how can you support
these the ease with which people can buy these pills online,
sell them to other people, get them from on scrupulous providers,
you know, lie about being pregnant to get pills that
you're going to use for something else. It opens the
(09:37):
door to people recognizing the need for other kinds of
pro life legislation they would never have thought they might support.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. I love how what you said
about work structure. I think that that's I think that's
something you know in the Western world that we is
different than a lot of a lot of places is
we have this very strict nine to five schedule that
everybody's you know, busy, busy busines all the time. But
I'd love to hear you know, more of your thoughts
on that of how you think, you know, based on
(10:06):
Josh Holly's work, and just like your thoughts on how
we could structure work better for mothers.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Well, I have some pretty I have some pretty wild
thoughts about this. But you know, I'll say that I
start from the perspective of the father. I've got six
daughters myself, my wife and I had two boys, and
then we had six girls. In a row. So for many,
many years we experienced the phenomenon of a little girl
becoming a little woman. And I can remember some of
(10:35):
those days when when I realized one of my daughters
was having her first having her first period. I know
from listening to my daughters and talking with my daughters
that the workplace has never accommodated what it really means
to be a woman, you know, the you know, simply
(10:59):
accommodated ascial cyclo cell that every month most people are
going to go through in this period where going through
a regular nine to five days is not going to
be so easy for them, And yet we stick with
this rigid forty hour week. You know, we have these
daytime hours when we talk to women and ask them
(11:19):
what they want most. Most moms want to work. Some
can't because they don't have the opportunity. They are only
able to work hard time as opportunities for them. Others
are forced to work full time when they don't want
to to make ends meet. So we have a very
(11:40):
far way to go yet to accommodate those needs. Moms
need to be able to take their kids for pediatric care.
They need to be able to take care of sick kids.
They need to kind of flexible work hours. They need
to be able to predict when they're going to work
so that they can natal visits and care for their children.
They have disabled children, they need they need help with
those areas too. As a society, we are very far
(12:04):
from incorporating women into our workforce to the way that
we should. Another idea that I've heard some sort of
Christian feminists talk about is the idea of changing the
entire pattern of our working lives. Is it fair that,
you know, to say to a girl who's like twenty
one to twenty two years old, who's just gotten her degree,
(12:25):
but is also at the height of her fertility, you know,
as far as it being healthy time for her to
have a baby, is it fair to say to her, Okay,
forget about that. Start a career, stop a career, do
something else. You've lost all of your opportunities. Oh maybe
you can work park time later in something that isn't
what you studied. You know, that's not fair. We need
to set up pathways of promotion to take into account
(12:48):
people pausing in their work life to care for their children,
or to care for their elderly parents, or even for
dads at times to be the primary caregiver. There are
ways that we could accommodate families so much better in
our society. But our society is not organized around the family.
Our society is organized around something else. Some people, orthodox
(13:10):
thinker Paul kings North would argue that what our society
is really organized around is the seven deadly sins. You know,
it's consumption about coluttony, lusts, wealth, pride is very important
to us. We have an entire culture that seems to
be built around something other than caring for one another
and encouraging families to form and be robustly able to
(13:32):
take care of themselves. That gets us into all kinds
of different political areas. And I don't know, I don't
have all the answers, but I do I do see
that this is not a society organized around Christian principles.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, I think you said about yeah, okay, just to
put people first, like to value people over the dollar,
right that that? You know?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
So yeah, absolutely, What I was going to say is
I think what you said about you know, you know
a girl who's early in her career, you know, early twenties,
like that struggle of like family versus work is so real,
and I mean I'm twenty four, and I think that
that's something that I've dealt with myself of.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Like kind of that yeah, like that meeting point of like, Okay, yes,
I want to have a family, but yes, also you know,
having that career. And I know many women women do,
Like I've been at various talks and things like that
were women they are like, yeah, I'm in college, I'm
getting this degree, and I want to work, but I
also like want to have a big family. And I
love that idea of you know, opportunities for promotion even
if you do take a career break.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I don't know what that looks like. I don't know
how to do it, but I think if there was
some if there was some social structure or cultural you know,
expectation that you know, you can you can leave the
workforce or partially leave the workforce for a while, you know,
and then come back into it in a more for
full throated way later on. I think that would be
that would be more encouraging to people that they know,
(15:00):
I'm not giving up everything our society cares, I'm going
to be able to rejoin the workforce more robustly at
another time, but we're just not offering that yeah promoted
now get your house now, or give up and forget
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
And I think it's so it's kind of looked down upon,
you know, to stay home with your kids or like
be a stay at home mom. Like I think a
lot of people, like the in the world are like, oh, well,
why don't you just work, or why don't you just
put your kids in daycare, even though daycare is like
incredibly expensive, Like.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, you know, if I can digress a little bit,
I think that there's a phenomenon going on right now
where we are. We have already sort of culturally downgraded
the family. I'll give an example of that. The other day,
I was writing My son had left his scooter at
my house. He has an electric scooter, and I was
(15:51):
scooting around my neighborhood and the battery started to die out.
So I turned around and I was heading down this
bike path to it was the quickest way to get
back home, and there was a a family ahead of me.
It was a mom with a stroller and then three
little boys on bicycles, and two of the boys were
way up ahead, and one of them had already waved
at me when I passed them before, and the dad
turned as I was coming up really slowly on my scooter.
(16:14):
He came up and he says, oh, oh, excuse us,
excuse us, you know, as if they were the problem.
And I said, no, no, no, excuse me, just you
guys are cool, you're fine. The mom sort of like
calls to the boys, Hey, Jeremy, get out of the way,
get out of the way. It was as if like
this encounter was some weird middle aged man on a scooter,
was this big, you know, crisis that they had to
(16:35):
keep me from being incommoded in any way by their family,
like their family was some sort of embarrassment, and and
you know, I was really trying to make them realize
it's not the case. And as I passed by the mom,
I said, hey, ma'am, you have a beautiful family, and
she said thank you, thank you. But it was very efficially,
you know, she was very serious and like worried about
(16:57):
our kids being in my way. That should not be
how our world is. Our world should be prioritized. The
children are the ones who have the right to be
on the bike path with their cute little bikes. I'm
the weirdo who should accommodate them. I'm the one who
should be apologizing to them. I see this everywhere, parents
kind of pulling their children away from the adults that
(17:17):
they might be putting out of somehow, on the sidewalk
or at the ice cream store, or even at the playground,
you know. And I think that comes from an idea
that if you have children in a world with abortion,
that's on you. You're the one making the choice to
not do the sensible thing and get an abortion and
carry on with your career. There's a a very wise
(17:42):
Catholic feminist, Laia Labresco Sergeant, who talks about this a lot,
about how we're kind of entering almost a posthumanist world
in which the facts of biological reality, the fact that
a woman gives birth and a woman needs to breastfeed,
are not even being acknowledged. If you've had a baby,
that's on you. We're not going to provide a breastfeeding
(18:03):
place for you, because you're you're conveniencing all of us
with your annoying choice to have a baby. That's not
how it used to be. We used to see every
single child as a society's child. We have a responsibility,
even Hillary Clinton, It does in fact take a village
in a certain sense, because the village has to accept
motherhood as something that it values in order to make
(18:23):
a place for that mom. We're not doing that now.
We're saying that every family's on their own. They're the
ones who chose to have a baby when they could
have trip made a different choice. And it really does
put the entire burden of everything onto the family and
onto the parents, and that's just too much.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, not treating children as a treasure, a.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Treasure not just for the parents who want them, but
for the entire society. And that means every child should
matter to every one of us.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, when I think about growing up in the nineties,
you know, we heard about girl power and that was like,
you know, probably getting a career doing jobs that men do.
And I don't know if girl power included, you know,
being a mother, being a wife, or.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Calls it a superpower. Jill Rogan is pro choice, says
that a woman's ability to have a baby is a superpower.
So I hope I get the chance to talk to
Joe about that someday, because he's got con predictory ideas,
you know, but he's on the right track.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
There an interesting podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, so I think somewhere, like somewhere, young girls were
kind of brainwashed to think, oh, to be the best woman,
I need to you know, work hard and have a
great career and have equal wages with men, and that
is going to fulfill me. And and like erasing you know,
(19:48):
you know, delaying marriage, delaying motherhood and you know, I'm
you know, I'm I'm in my late thirties and we
don't have any children yet. So but you know that
I I went with that uh uh, you know, success
(20:09):
in the the academic way.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And so well, you know, the the weirdo lesbian art
critic Camille Paglia, who's an atheist and hardcore pro abortion.
I mean, she believes an abortion up till the day
of birth. But but she also strongly believes that girls
should be told the factual truths about how hard it
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is to get pregnant. Ash delay this, you know, the
start of motherhood. And we're telling women go have a career,
but not being honest with them about the limits of fertility.
That by a lot, but the piology imposes. So there
are some weird voices that are agreeing with us sometimes
on some of these things. And I know my my
own daughters have talked a lot about that. You know,
(20:56):
they're you know, my three oldest daughters are career women.
They they they're they've chosen careers that are in the
certain kind of care services. I've got a nurse and
a sign language interpreter and a teacher amongst my daughters,
my Thread's daughters. And but they they they especially resent
the push towards STEM. They're like, you know, science and
(21:18):
technology is fine, but what about the arts, what about motherhood?
What about the.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Problem is is if you push everyone into STEM, then
there's just not going to be any more jobs in STEM.
Like I know so many engineers that have struggled to
get jobs because they've they're there's just not that many
engineering jobs. If you're just producing all these engineers every year,
at some point you run out of engineering jobs.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Is going to be handled by robots very soon, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And sometimes like the STEM, it they kind of block
out boys, you know, like they're like, oh, too many boys,
but like we need more and more girls.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
But like it's.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Interesting that they complain about like a number of women doctors,
there are whatever you know there. I think right now
there are more women in medical school than men. But
no one's sitting there complaining about all the men who
are working on oil rigs. No one complains about how
there aren't any women up on electric poles in the
middle of the thunderstorm fixing the power. You know, those
injustices and imbalances don't ever seem to get any attention.
(22:26):
So when it's when convenient, we'll let men be different
from women. But otherwise, well, this.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Has been such a great talk. I do want to
get to some more of the questions that we talked about,
such as what can we do besides outright banning abortion,
Like what other avenues are there? How can we advocate
for unborn children?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yet, well, I think we've hinted at some of the
answer to that question already. You know, that's something the
product movement is struggling with right now, is trying to
figure out what else we can do within the law.
You know, we've got these referendums that have block us
off in certain states. We have some states that have
banned abortion, some that have limited it pretty strictly. We
have others like my home State of Illinois that are aggressively,
(23:09):
you know, trying to expand abortion and trying to force
medical practitioners to be involved with it, and you know,
stem funding from pregnancy care centers and all the rest
of it. So how much more can we do to
legally protect unborn children? Maybe not a lot more, But
of Chris, we still fight, we still work, still curious
(23:30):
and creative. But what else can we do? Well? We
can talk to our friends and neighbors about those unwanted
abortions and spread the word about this very important phenomenon
that opens so many doors and build so much common ground,
and that really educates people about the truth about abortion
that they haven't been told. I think we need to
do much more creatively with the law to offer assistance
(23:53):
to limit the ability of employers to force women into
abortions or to you know, softly or hardly, whether it's
just through not ever giving you know, people the kind
of flexibility that they need to plan their lives, or
whether it's through an employer actually saying get the abortion,
I'm gonna fire you. You know, we can connect some
some laws in those areas. I think we've got to
(24:15):
do something with our healthcare system, because that is the
number one concern of moms is health care for their kids.
And uh, it's you know, one of my daughters right
now doesn't have health care. She's ironically, my nurse daughter
doesn't have health care plan right now because it's so
it's so expensive, and uh, you know, these are these
(24:38):
are areas where, uh it's hard for us sometimes because
so many of us in the product whom we are conservative,
but we have to step back and say, what are
we trying to conserve? You know, we're trying to conserve
some kind of you know, free you know, sort of
mythical free market world where you know, we're staying out
of the way and just letting the economy decide make
our decisions. Because if we're gonna let the economy decide,
(24:58):
we're gonna have lots of abortions because abortion is good
for the economy. That's what our what's what our society
seems to think anyway, for the short term, it seems
to be. So, you know, can we think outside the box.
Can we set aside some of our own preconceived notions
about our politics or our political ideologies and think of
ways we could actually practically help. So I want to
(25:21):
be highlighting, you know, the efforts of states to to
help in areas other than just you know, limiting abortion.
What are we doing to help moms?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, and that to not let the not let the
predominant narrative be abortion is the best option, or that,
you know, let the narrative be, Uh, people care about
you and we want to help you, and your life matters.
(25:52):
And being a mother is.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You know, awesome, you know, it's also it's also really
hard too, And I think, you know, we've got to
do something and I don't know what it is, but
we've got to do something to change the kind of
cultural attitudes around parented and around the meaning of life itself.
You know, being a parent it's hard. It's hard, hard work.
(26:18):
You know, you have to put yourself aside for decades
at a time sometimes, you know, to care for children.
And you know, how do you ask people to do that?
You've got to give them something else. And if we
have a society that just doesn't value the blessings of
family and the difficulties and doesn't have a kind of
(26:39):
an embraceive challenge and of hard work and sees value
in suffering, it's going to be very difficult. So it's
a much bigger cultural transformation that needs to take place,
but it begins with us understanding what our real values
are and then trying to have a conversation with people
where we share that passion for life and that passion
for family.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, of marriage, of fatherhood, of yeah. So okay, let's
let's hear the Bible verse that you selected today, Eric, Well, with.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
The National Day of Remembrance coming up so soon, I
want to I want to focus on our Lord's words
from uh from from the Beatitudes Matthew five four. Blessed
are they who mourn, for they will be comforted. We
are people who mourn. We are people who have a
broken heart for unborn babies. We need to mourn for them,
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and and I think we forget about that sometimes when
we go out to an abortion clinic to pray, maybe
to offer help to women, sometimes it feels like we're
not having an impact. But we always are. Every time
you hold an unborn child in your heart, especially when
you're out there outside the abortion facility when that child
is dying, you're doing a good thing. You're doing something
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God asks you to do. Blessed are they who mourn
for they will be comforted. And I've talked to so
many people who like me, go out and do cyble
counseling and abortion facilities, and it's the uncanniest thing. It's
so hard to be out there, and you have to
screw yourself up to do it. But coming away after
your hour or two hours out there, you feel such
a sense I feel often such a sense of peace
(28:21):
and satisfaction for having been there. You know, even if
I don't pass out a single flyer, I was there
for the children who died that day. Their children dying
everything single day, as many as three thousand a day.
Sometimes let's remember them every day and think about what
their lives meant, because even if it was short, their
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lives meant something. And if we can bring ourselves to
love those children and mourn for those children, I think
that opens our hearts to really bring a positive and
compassionate and understanding message for our society.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Awesome, said, Blessed are they those who mourn for they
will be comforted? Jesus says Amen. Maybe so well. Thank
you so much, Eric for all that you do and
all that your family does, and you shared with us today.
God bless Pro Life Action League.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Well God bless you guys in the Ever Living podcast.
I think you're doing great work and it's a rollin
or to be on with you today. And if people
want to get in touch, they want to get involved,
visit us at Prolifeaction dot org. We'll be happy to
have a conversation and put you to work.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Great.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Thanks Eric, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Rick You okay, you just want to plug the twenty
twenty five and here have the Right to Life Benefit banquiet.
It's on October sixteenth, and our speaker, if you could
scroll down, is Darlene Pollock. She's our keynote speaker and
she is pro life and former vice president of Save
(29:57):
the One and Anti and she's part of an anti
trafficking organization. So it's going to be an amazing So
tickets are still available. Please visit nhrtil dot org. You
can get tickets for yourself or a whole table for
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or anything helps to support the pro life work in
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Speaker 2 (30:23):
All Right, she's an amazing speaker. I've heard her speak
before and she tells her story about how she herself
was trafficked and she actually escaped trafficking through a pregnancy
resource center. They helped her get out of traffic, human trafficking.
So definitely a powerful speaker and definitely worth coming to
the banquet and listening to her speak.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
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here you can see where you can buy your ticket,
become a sponsor. There's still early bird tickets before August
twenty eighth, so just like a week or so, get
your early board price in. It's going to be the
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Manchester Country Club. All right, everybody, thanks for listening. This
is a thanks for Eric Schidler coming to the pod
today and hopefully you can get on Brogan someday and
this is just a stepping stone, all right, God bless you. Okay,
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May God bless you and be very near to you,
and may you be ever living
Yeah, it more sounds like pro choice becomes it's really
anti choice or pro force or like anti support, you know,
like that's I mean to not to have coerced abortions.
(00:26):
That is like reminiscent of other countries that you know
coerce abortion, like send.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
People to yah, well it's a it's illegal. Like it's
a it's illegal. And I think you know you're talking
about there certain situations where it's like, Okay, it's a
financial reason, and it's a house or a housing region reason,
and obviously we can provide resources to a woman in
that situation. But I think even exactly if it's like
coerce and they're being told like I'm gonna kill you
or I'm gonna throw you out of my house. Like
(00:53):
one thing I that just made me think of is
the Justice Foundation. I know they have their Center Again
and Forced Abortions, and that's a resource for women who
may feel that they're being coerced into an abortion and
they have a boyfriend who's like, you know, even I'm
gonna break up with you if you don't have this baby.
(01:13):
The Center for the Justice Foundation and their Center Against
Forced Abortions has resources for it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, they have an affidavit that a woman can sign
so that you could present to a pregnancy center to
say I don't want this abortion. And I remember what
we had a real, real heartbreaking situation here in I
live in the suburbs of Chicago, a suburb called Aurora,
and Aurora is home to one of the largest abortion
clinics in the country. Actually, I think it might even
(01:41):
be the largest now because there was a bigger one
in Texas that just shut down. I'm not sure about that,
but it's it's huge and then very very busy. And
one day we got a call from a pregnancy center
in Indiana. A client had just left who was heading
to Illinois to get an abortion that she didn't want,
and they had the affidavit she had signed saying I
do not want this abortion. My mother's trying to force me.
(02:04):
She was inside the planned parented facility in Aurora when
I got this information, and I contacted the police, and
it was so hard to get them to even call
a squad out there. I finally convinced them to do that.
So I'm having to fight with the police to care
about this. An officer comes out and again it was
(02:24):
pulling teeth to say, look, I've got the girl's signature
right here. She's in there and she doesn't want this abortion.
He finally went into the place, got her out, sent
her off with her sister, get her and getting her
away from the mom who's trying to force her into
the abortion, so that she can get some distance from
the mom. And the sister was trying to support her.
(02:44):
So we had a brief, brief victory where the abortion
was stayed for a few weeks. But later the pregnancy
center in Indiana told us that the mom finally prevailed
over the girl and they got the abortion at the
Prime Parented Center in Meryllville, Indiana. This was before abortion
was band in Indiana, of course, so was before the
Dobs ruling had come down, So that that was a
(03:05):
tremendous heartbreaker because we worked so hard. I mean I
was I was eating breakfast when I got the call,
and I jumped out of my house, jumped in the car,
ran off the plan parents and I'm calling the lawyers.
I'm calling the police, you know, I'm trying to find
talking to the pregnancy center. I mean I had four
or five different people, you know, attorneys at the Thomas
(03:27):
Moore society that helps to helps us to get the
police to be responsible for things like this and to
defend the rights of pro activists. We had them working.
I mean, so many people were trying to save this
one baby's life and to help this one mom to
be able to make the choice she really wanted. And
we were able to do that for a short time,
but ultimately we weren't there. We didn't have enough. Maybe
(03:51):
with our the resources available in Indiana, maybe the legal
situation with course of abortion, maybe we don't have strong
enough laws on this stuff. We weren't able to save
that baby. And it was a heartbreaker when we found
out that the woman had actually because at first we
thought we'd saved it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Life that day.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah we had, we had. We did save a life
that day, but now not forever. H And I believe
that all those efforts are still worth it. I think
God cares about that type of work. And and we learned,
we learned a little bit about how to how to
address those situations, and we were able to reach out
to our side well counselors across the country and you know,
(04:29):
help them be better prepared so than that suddenly blindsided
by this kind of thing, so good things came out
of it, but a life was lost and my mom
was hurt that day.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So I think it just shows just you know, obviously
we talk about it like we talk about it, you know,
in the statistics, but I think sometimes like the stories,
like the fact that you actually have had a situation
where this has happened and a woman has been coerced
into an abortion, and even even though you guys try
to stop it, like it just shows like this is
happening every day across the country.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You know. I was having a kind of conversation with
my hairdresser a couple of months ago. She's pro choice,
and the issue of abortion to come up once or
twice before when she when we talked about my work,
but it had always been kind of like or not,
you know, we never really talked about it. It was
a little uncomfortable. But for some reason that one day
we started chatting about it some more and the issue
(05:21):
of unwanted abortion came up.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
She was telling me, and she told me that she
had a friend who who had had an abortion in
high school under pressure from her mom. She didn't want
the abortion. She did not want it was under control
of her parents and forced to get this abortion. Years later,
she married, she had a baby. That baby turned out
(05:45):
to be disabled, very very severely disabled, and in an institution.
And she says her friend every day. Maybe that's some exaggeration,
but she told me that every day her friend says
that she deserved to have a disabled child because of
the abortion that she had. She thought she was being punished.
(06:06):
So my friend, who was pro choice, was very very
open to hearing about unwanted abortions because she had a
friend who'd been through one and who had hurt so badly.
So even as she was defending abortion, you know, and
she herself had been a victim of sexual assault and
that was an issue very important to her. Abortion in
the cases of sexual assault. Nevertheless, she was very open
(06:27):
to talking about how we can protect women from unwanted abortion.
So I have, you know, in my own experience, I
had strong proof that the stories we tell can lead
to building common ground on this issue, in building bridges
so we can have more conversations and talk about other
kinds of abortion and other sorrows of abortion that we
(06:48):
could work on in the future.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, Eric, do you do you think it ties into
like coerced abortion through abortion pills like just you know,
unknown I'm unknowingly taken or even coursed abortion because of
sex trafficking.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
What about when you went Once you've opened the door
to talking about unwanted abortion, now we can talk about
how this touches other areas. I already mentioned the area
of offering support to moms. Once we know that two
thirds of women likely would choose something else if they
(07:29):
were given help, That inspires us to give help. That
inspires us to to to give help, both through private
charity and through through public channels, you know, to offer
like one of the things Senator Josh Holly has been
very active on is the area of flexible work hours.
You know, you wouldn't think you don't when you think
of abortion, you don't think of flexible work hours. But
in fact, for a mom who cannot schedule a pre
(07:52):
native visit ever because her schedule is going to be
set a few days before she has to work, a
pregnancy test is a test of her employment. You know
you're pregnant, now you cannot you cannot schedule a prenatal test.
Your boss won't let you. How are you gonna? How
are you gonna even can think about saying yes to
(08:13):
that pregnancy. You know, abortion is the only sensible thing
to do if if you don't have a you know,
a strong ideological reason against it that you that you're
you know, that you've been formed to believe in. So,
you know, areas like that are places where where we
could try to help, where we can have policies that
we wouldn't have thought of as affecting a woman's choice
(08:35):
to get an abortion or not, but then actually do
play an important role. The area of abortion pills. That's another,
as you raised, it's another very important one. Once we've
established with somebody that there's such a thing as unwanted abortion,
that we can say, you know, when you think about it,
these pills present a big problem because a boyfriend can
sneak of Memphi pristone pill into his girlfriend's you know,
(08:58):
mashed potatoes.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And yeah, there was a story in the news today
about about I think it's a Texas lawsuit of a
woman who's suing her like ex boyfriend because you put
it in her hot chocolate. She didn't. It was coerced abortion.
Like that's insane, Like it happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
If you're truly pro choice, then how can you support
these the ease with which people can buy these pills online,
sell them to other people, get them from on scrupulous providers,
you know, lie about being pregnant to get pills that
you're going to use for something else. It opens the
(09:37):
door to people recognizing the need for other kinds of
pro life legislation they would never have thought they might support.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. I love how what you said
about work structure. I think that that's I think that's
something you know in the Western world that we is
different than a lot of a lot of places is
we have this very strict nine to five schedule that
everybody's you know, busy, busy busines all the time. But
I'd love to hear you know, more of your thoughts
on that of how you think, you know, based on
(10:06):
Josh Holly's work, and just like your thoughts on how
we could structure work better for mothers.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Well, I have some pretty I have some pretty wild
thoughts about this. But you know, I'll say that I
start from the perspective of the father. I've got six
daughters myself, my wife and I had two boys, and
then we had six girls. In a row. So for many,
many years we experienced the phenomenon of a little girl
becoming a little woman. And I can remember some of
(10:35):
those days when when I realized one of my daughters
was having her first having her first period. I know
from listening to my daughters and talking with my daughters
that the workplace has never accommodated what it really means
to be a woman, you know, the you know, simply
(10:59):
accommodated ascial cyclo cell that every month most people are
going to go through in this period where going through
a regular nine to five days is not going to
be so easy for them, And yet we stick with
this rigid forty hour week. You know, we have these
daytime hours when we talk to women and ask them
(11:19):
what they want most. Most moms want to work. Some
can't because they don't have the opportunity. They are only
able to work hard time as opportunities for them. Others
are forced to work full time when they don't want
to to make ends meet. So we have a very
(11:40):
far way to go yet to accommodate those needs. Moms
need to be able to take their kids for pediatric care.
They need to be able to take care of sick kids.
They need to kind of flexible work hours. They need
to be able to predict when they're going to work
so that they can natal visits and care for their children.
They have disabled children, they need they need help with
those areas too. As a society, we are very far
(12:04):
from incorporating women into our workforce to the way that
we should. Another idea that I've heard some sort of
Christian feminists talk about is the idea of changing the
entire pattern of our working lives. Is it fair that,
you know, to say to a girl who's like twenty
one to twenty two years old, who's just gotten her degree,
(12:25):
but is also at the height of her fertility, you know,
as far as it being healthy time for her to
have a baby, is it fair to say to her, Okay,
forget about that. Start a career, stop a career, do
something else. You've lost all of your opportunities. Oh maybe
you can work park time later in something that isn't
what you studied. You know, that's not fair. We need
to set up pathways of promotion to take into account
(12:48):
people pausing in their work life to care for their children,
or to care for their elderly parents, or even for
dads at times to be the primary caregiver. There are
ways that we could accommodate families so much better in
our society. But our society is not organized around the family.
Our society is organized around something else. Some people, orthodox
(13:10):
thinker Paul kings North would argue that what our society
is really organized around is the seven deadly sins. You know,
it's consumption about coluttony, lusts, wealth, pride is very important
to us. We have an entire culture that seems to
be built around something other than caring for one another
and encouraging families to form and be robustly able to
(13:32):
take care of themselves. That gets us into all kinds
of different political areas. And I don't know, I don't
have all the answers, but I do I do see
that this is not a society organized around Christian principles.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, I think you said about yeah, okay, just to
put people first, like to value people over the dollar,
right that that? You know?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
So yeah, absolutely, What I was going to say is
I think what you said about you know, you know
a girl who's early in her career, you know, early twenties,
like that struggle of like family versus work is so real,
and I mean I'm twenty four, and I think that
that's something that I've dealt with myself of.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Like kind of that yeah, like that meeting point of like, Okay, yes,
I want to have a family, but yes, also you know,
having that career. And I know many women women do,
Like I've been at various talks and things like that
were women they are like, yeah, I'm in college, I'm
getting this degree, and I want to work, but I
also like want to have a big family. And I
love that idea of you know, opportunities for promotion even
if you do take a career break.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I don't know what that looks like. I don't know
how to do it, but I think if there was
some if there was some social structure or cultural you know,
expectation that you know, you can you can leave the
workforce or partially leave the workforce for a while, you know,
and then come back into it in a more for
full throated way later on. I think that would be
that would be more encouraging to people that they know,
(15:00):
I'm not giving up everything our society cares, I'm going
to be able to rejoin the workforce more robustly at
another time, but we're just not offering that yeah promoted
now get your house now, or give up and forget
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
And I think it's so it's kind of looked down upon,
you know, to stay home with your kids or like
be a stay at home mom. Like I think a
lot of people, like the in the world are like, oh, well,
why don't you just work, or why don't you just
put your kids in daycare, even though daycare is like
incredibly expensive, Like.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, you know, if I can digress a little bit,
I think that there's a phenomenon going on right now
where we are. We have already sort of culturally downgraded
the family. I'll give an example of that. The other day,
I was writing My son had left his scooter at
my house. He has an electric scooter, and I was
(15:51):
scooting around my neighborhood and the battery started to die out.
So I turned around and I was heading down this
bike path to it was the quickest way to get
back home, and there was a a family ahead of me.
It was a mom with a stroller and then three
little boys on bicycles, and two of the boys were
way up ahead, and one of them had already waved
at me when I passed them before, and the dad
turned as I was coming up really slowly on my scooter.
(16:14):
He came up and he says, oh, oh, excuse us,
excuse us, you know, as if they were the problem.
And I said, no, no, no, excuse me, just you
guys are cool, you're fine. The mom sort of like
calls to the boys, Hey, Jeremy, get out of the way,
get out of the way. It was as if like
this encounter was some weird middle aged man on a scooter,
was this big, you know, crisis that they had to
(16:35):
keep me from being incommoded in any way by their family,
like their family was some sort of embarrassment, and and
you know, I was really trying to make them realize
it's not the case. And as I passed by the mom,
I said, hey, ma'am, you have a beautiful family, and
she said thank you, thank you. But it was very efficially,
you know, she was very serious and like worried about
(16:57):
our kids being in my way. That should not be
how our world is. Our world should be prioritized. The
children are the ones who have the right to be
on the bike path with their cute little bikes. I'm
the weirdo who should accommodate them. I'm the one who
should be apologizing to them. I see this everywhere, parents
kind of pulling their children away from the adults that
(17:17):
they might be putting out of somehow, on the sidewalk
or at the ice cream store, or even at the playground,
you know. And I think that comes from an idea
that if you have children in a world with abortion,
that's on you. You're the one making the choice to
not do the sensible thing and get an abortion and
carry on with your career. There's a a very wise
(17:42):
Catholic feminist, Laia Labresco Sergeant, who talks about this a lot,
about how we're kind of entering almost a posthumanist world
in which the facts of biological reality, the fact that
a woman gives birth and a woman needs to breastfeed,
are not even being acknowledged. If you've had a baby,
that's on you. We're not going to provide a breastfeeding
(18:03):
place for you, because you're you're conveniencing all of us
with your annoying choice to have a baby. That's not
how it used to be. We used to see every
single child as a society's child. We have a responsibility,
even Hillary Clinton, It does in fact take a village
in a certain sense, because the village has to accept
motherhood as something that it values in order to make
(18:23):
a place for that mom. We're not doing that now.
We're saying that every family's on their own. They're the
ones who chose to have a baby when they could
have trip made a different choice. And it really does
put the entire burden of everything onto the family and
onto the parents, and that's just too much.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, not treating children as a treasure, a.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Treasure not just for the parents who want them, but
for the entire society. And that means every child should
matter to every one of us.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, when I think about growing up in the nineties,
you know, we heard about girl power and that was like,
you know, probably getting a career doing jobs that men do.
And I don't know if girl power included, you know,
being a mother, being a wife, or.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Calls it a superpower. Jill Rogan is pro choice, says
that a woman's ability to have a baby is a superpower.
So I hope I get the chance to talk to
Joe about that someday, because he's got con predictory ideas,
you know, but he's on the right track.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
There an interesting podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, so I think somewhere, like somewhere, young girls were
kind of brainwashed to think, oh, to be the best woman,
I need to you know, work hard and have a
great career and have equal wages with men, and that
is going to fulfill me. And and like erasing you know,
(19:48):
you know, delaying marriage, delaying motherhood and you know, I'm
you know, I'm I'm in my late thirties and we
don't have any children yet. So but you know that
I I went with that uh uh, you know, success
(20:09):
in the the academic way.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And so well, you know, the the weirdo lesbian art
critic Camille Paglia, who's an atheist and hardcore pro abortion.
I mean, she believes an abortion up till the day
of birth. But but she also strongly believes that girls
should be told the factual truths about how hard it
(20:34):
is to get pregnant. Ash delay this, you know, the
start of motherhood. And we're telling women go have a career,
but not being honest with them about the limits of fertility.
That by a lot, but the piology imposes. So there
are some weird voices that are agreeing with us sometimes
on some of these things. And I know my my
own daughters have talked a lot about that. You know,
(20:56):
they're you know, my three oldest daughters are career women.
They they they're they've chosen careers that are in the
certain kind of care services. I've got a nurse and
a sign language interpreter and a teacher amongst my daughters,
my Thread's daughters. And but they they they especially resent
the push towards STEM. They're like, you know, science and
(21:18):
technology is fine, but what about the arts, what about motherhood?
What about the.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Problem is is if you push everyone into STEM, then
there's just not going to be any more jobs in STEM.
Like I know so many engineers that have struggled to
get jobs because they've they're there's just not that many
engineering jobs. If you're just producing all these engineers every year,
at some point you run out of engineering jobs.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Is going to be handled by robots very soon, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And sometimes like the STEM, it they kind of block
out boys, you know, like they're like, oh, too many boys,
but like we need more and more girls.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
But like it's.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Interesting that they complain about like a number of women doctors,
there are whatever you know there. I think right now
there are more women in medical school than men. But
no one's sitting there complaining about all the men who
are working on oil rigs. No one complains about how
there aren't any women up on electric poles in the
middle of the thunderstorm fixing the power. You know, those
injustices and imbalances don't ever seem to get any attention.
(22:26):
So when it's when convenient, we'll let men be different
from women. But otherwise, well, this.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Has been such a great talk. I do want to
get to some more of the questions that we talked about,
such as what can we do besides outright banning abortion,
Like what other avenues are there? How can we advocate
for unborn children?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yet, well, I think we've hinted at some of the
answer to that question already. You know, that's something the
product movement is struggling with right now, is trying to
figure out what else we can do within the law.
You know, we've got these referendums that have block us
off in certain states. We have some states that have
banned abortion, some that have limited it pretty strictly. We
have others like my home State of Illinois that are aggressively,
(23:09):
you know, trying to expand abortion and trying to force
medical practitioners to be involved with it, and you know,
stem funding from pregnancy care centers and all the rest
of it. So how much more can we do to
legally protect unborn children? Maybe not a lot more, But
of Chris, we still fight, we still work, still curious
(23:30):
and creative. But what else can we do? Well? We
can talk to our friends and neighbors about those unwanted
abortions and spread the word about this very important phenomenon
that opens so many doors and build so much common ground,
and that really educates people about the truth about abortion
that they haven't been told. I think we need to
do much more creatively with the law to offer assistance
(23:53):
to limit the ability of employers to force women into
abortions or to you know, softly or hardly, whether it's
just through not ever giving you know, people the kind
of flexibility that they need to plan their lives, or
whether it's through an employer actually saying get the abortion,
I'm gonna fire you. You know, we can connect some
some laws in those areas. I think we've got to
(24:15):
do something with our healthcare system, because that is the
number one concern of moms is health care for their kids.
And uh, it's you know, one of my daughters right
now doesn't have health care. She's ironically, my nurse daughter
doesn't have health care plan right now because it's so
it's so expensive, and uh, you know, these are these
(24:38):
are areas where, uh it's hard for us sometimes because
so many of us in the product whom we are conservative,
but we have to step back and say, what are
we trying to conserve? You know, we're trying to conserve
some kind of you know, free you know, sort of
mythical free market world where you know, we're staying out
of the way and just letting the economy decide make
our decisions. Because if we're gonna let the economy decide,
(24:58):
we're gonna have lots of abortions because abortion is good
for the economy. That's what our what's what our society
seems to think anyway, for the short term, it seems
to be. So, you know, can we think outside the box.
Can we set aside some of our own preconceived notions
about our politics or our political ideologies and think of
ways we could actually practically help. So I want to
(25:21):
be highlighting, you know, the efforts of states to to
help in areas other than just you know, limiting abortion.
What are we doing to help moms?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, and that to not let the not let the
predominant narrative be abortion is the best option, or that,
you know, let the narrative be, Uh, people care about
you and we want to help you, and your life matters.
(25:52):
And being a mother is.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You know, awesome, you know, it's also it's also really
hard too, And I think, you know, we've got to
do something and I don't know what it is, but
we've got to do something to change the kind of
cultural attitudes around parented and around the meaning of life itself.
You know, being a parent it's hard. It's hard, hard work.
(26:18):
You know, you have to put yourself aside for decades
at a time sometimes, you know, to care for children.
And you know, how do you ask people to do that?
You've got to give them something else. And if we
have a society that just doesn't value the blessings of
family and the difficulties and doesn't have a kind of
(26:39):
an embraceive challenge and of hard work and sees value
in suffering, it's going to be very difficult. So it's
a much bigger cultural transformation that needs to take place,
but it begins with us understanding what our real values
are and then trying to have a conversation with people
where we share that passion for life and that passion
for family.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, of marriage, of fatherhood, of yeah. So okay, let's
let's hear the Bible verse that you selected today, Eric, Well, with.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
The National Day of Remembrance coming up so soon, I
want to I want to focus on our Lord's words
from uh from from the Beatitudes Matthew five four. Blessed
are they who mourn, for they will be comforted. We
are people who mourn. We are people who have a
broken heart for unborn babies. We need to mourn for them,
(27:38):
and and I think we forget about that sometimes when
we go out to an abortion clinic to pray, maybe
to offer help to women, sometimes it feels like we're
not having an impact. But we always are. Every time
you hold an unborn child in your heart, especially when
you're out there outside the abortion facility when that child
is dying, you're doing a good thing. You're doing something
(28:00):
God asks you to do. Blessed are they who mourn
for they will be comforted. And I've talked to so
many people who like me, go out and do cyble
counseling and abortion facilities, and it's the uncanniest thing. It's
so hard to be out there, and you have to
screw yourself up to do it. But coming away after
your hour or two hours out there, you feel such
a sense I feel often such a sense of peace
(28:21):
and satisfaction for having been there. You know, even if
I don't pass out a single flyer, I was there
for the children who died that day. Their children dying
everything single day, as many as three thousand a day.
Sometimes let's remember them every day and think about what
their lives meant, because even if it was short, their
(28:45):
lives meant something. And if we can bring ourselves to
love those children and mourn for those children, I think
that opens our hearts to really bring a positive and
compassionate and understanding message for our society.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Awesome, said, Blessed are they those who mourn for they
will be comforted? Jesus says Amen. Maybe so well. Thank
you so much, Eric for all that you do and
all that your family does, and you shared with us today.
God bless Pro Life Action League.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Well God bless you guys in the Ever Living podcast.
I think you're doing great work and it's a rollin
or to be on with you today. And if people
want to get in touch, they want to get involved,
visit us at Prolifeaction dot org. We'll be happy to
have a conversation and put you to work.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Great.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Thanks Eric, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Rick You okay, you just want to plug the twenty
twenty five and here have the Right to Life Benefit banquiet.
It's on October sixteenth, and our speaker, if you could
scroll down, is Darlene Pollock. She's our keynote speaker and
she is pro life and former vice president of Save
(29:57):
the One and Anti and she's part of an anti
trafficking organization. So it's going to be an amazing So
tickets are still available. Please visit nhrtil dot org. You
can get tickets for yourself or a whole table for
your church. You can sponsor the banquet as a business
(30:18):
or anything helps to support the pro life work in
New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
All Right, she's an amazing speaker. I've heard her speak
before and she tells her story about how she herself
was trafficked and she actually escaped trafficking through a pregnancy
resource center. They helped her get out of traffic, human trafficking.
So definitely a powerful speaker and definitely worth coming to
the banquet and listening to her speak.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So yeah, if we scroll down more a little bit more,
here you can see where you can buy your ticket,
become a sponsor. There's still early bird tickets before August
twenty eighth, so just like a week or so, get
your early board price in. It's going to be the
(31:04):
Manchester Country Club. All right, everybody, thanks for listening. This
is a thanks for Eric Schidler coming to the pod
today and hopefully you can get on Brogan someday and
this is just a stepping stone, all right, God bless you. Okay,
(31:24):
goodbye everyone, Hie.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Thank you for listening to the Ever Living Podcast, a
podcast by New Hampshire Rate to Life, New Hampshire's oldest
and most active pro life organization. You can learn more
about our work and learn how to get involved at
www dot NHRTL dot org. If you would like to
donate to our remission, you can make a donation at
www dot NHRTL dot org. Backslash donate. See you next week.
(31:52):
May God bless you and be very near to you,
and may you be ever living
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