June 3, 2025 • 30 mins
Hon. Kurt Wuelper, a U.S. Army veteran, served as State Representative for New Durham and Strafford from 2014 to 2022. With nearly four years of active duty, including 15 months in Vietnam, Kurt earned a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration from UNH in 1974 and worked 34 years at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. A Strafford resident for over 30 years with his wife, Bethene, he has a son and two granddaughters. Kurt has served as Strafford moderator, currently as school district moderator, and led local Boy Scout programs.
A staunch pro-life advocate, Kurt Wuelper prioritizes low taxes through reduced government spending, making New Hampshire ideal for families. He is committed to protecting all constitutional rights, including the Second Amendment, and reducing business regulations to drive economic growth and retain talent. His pro-life convictions anchor his vision for a thriving, free, and family-oriented New Hampshire.
Thank you for watching The Ever-Living Podcast, a heartfelt space to share the stories and voices of women who champion a culture that values and protects life. Each episode we seek to empower, offering connection, hope, and strength through the journeys of those who work and pray for this cause. Crafted for women seeking purpose and community, we welcome you to join us in cherishing every single heartbeat.
A staunch pro-life advocate, Kurt Wuelper prioritizes low taxes through reduced government spending, making New Hampshire ideal for families. He is committed to protecting all constitutional rights, including the Second Amendment, and reducing business regulations to drive economic growth and retain talent. His pro-life convictions anchor his vision for a thriving, free, and family-oriented New Hampshire.
Thank you for watching The Ever-Living Podcast, a heartfelt space to share the stories and voices of women who champion a culture that values and protects life. Each episode we seek to empower, offering connection, hope, and strength through the journeys of those who work and pray for this cause. Crafted for women seeking purpose and community, we welcome you to join us in cherishing every single heartbeat.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to ever Living, a new podcast about valuing life
here on Earth and for eternity. We are your life loving.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hosts Cindy and Jessica.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Every week on ever Living, we create a space for
sharing the stories and voices of those who work and
pray to create a culture of that values and protect
life in New England and beyond. So welcome to episode three. Everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yay, Hi Cindy, Hi Jessica.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
How was your past week? Anything memorable happened?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, I'm trying to think. I feel like it's been
a very busy week for me. Yeah, a lot going
on with work and things like that. I know, on
last week's episode, I had actually mentioned that I was
doing a lot for work with the defund Planned Parents
hood efforts and just I would say the most memorable
thing that has happened this week is just last night,
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the House of Representatives past the new budget, the new
budget federal budget and at the House level, and it
includes language to defund planned parenthood, which is really exciting
because hopefully we can, you know, use our funding and
money to support services that actually help help women.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, not planned parents, who's most of their services are abortioned.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So yeah, So I'd said that was probably the most
memorable thing that's happened this week.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay, good, and hopefully we'll hear more about that about
the House of Representatives from our special guest today.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, well let's yeah do that.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
How about you? How's your week beend?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, it's been very cold and rainy here in New England.
Have you been experiencing that?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, it's vergid.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's been like graining for the past just like twelve hours,
I think so, and I heard from the actually three days.
So stay inside and drink, drink warm drinks and watch
movies this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I'm looking ahead to and I think next week
we'll have better weather, so that'll be good. Okay, Well,
we are very excited for a special guest today. His
name is the honorable Kurt Wolper, the Kurt Wolper. He well, well,
(02:32):
let's welcome Kurt. Well, let me tell everybody about Kurt.
Okay he oh he is.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
From just want to do that again. So, so, hey,
how you doing good.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Here's a little introduction. Kurt is from Strafford. He uh
want is you're looking to represent Strafford District three. That's
Barrington and Strafford in New Hampshire, OH District four, Barrington
and Strafford. Okay, you are a Strafford moderator and you
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are the Strafford School District moderator. You're a veteran in
the US Army with four years of active duty, fifteen
months in Vietnam and two years of inactive reserves. You
have a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration from you
and h You worked at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard for thirty
four years, with the last twenty years in Shipboard Test
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Engineering branch. You led Boy Scout and Cut Scout programs
in Strafford. You've lived in Strafford for thirty years with
your wonderful wife Bethene, been married for forty years. You
have one son and two granddaughters and keen. So, Kurt,
welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Well, thank you, I take care of my wife. What
about you?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And now, well let's hear more about you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Kurt.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So, I've done with New Hampshire Right to Life for like,
that's right, five years.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
That's that's a big reason we wanted to bring you
on the podcast today.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know, obviously we want to hear a little bit
of your background.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
In general, but we definitely want to want to hear
about your experience as a state rep and you know,
being on the board for New Hampshire Right to Life.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So yeah, let's just.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
So he started, it's my quick history of New Hampshire
Right to Me and answering the other question that you
asked at that moment, right, So roughly nineteen ninety four, no,
exactly nineteen ninety four, I became, I got saved and
as a result I became a pro life activist. So
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for a few years all I did was writing letters
to the editor and support my wife who was at
that time involved with the pregnancy center in Dover, and
just ches was pro life. By two thousand, whatever it is, eleven,
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I retired from the Navy Yard to run for the
House because with mine at the even at that time
my ten year tenure with New Hampshire Right to Life,
the biggest challenge we had was we didn't have enough
pro life for apps. We needed more pro life voices
and for them to be organized in the House. So
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I did that and I won, served four terms eight
years and we have the crowning achievement of the pro
life movement and conquered thus far in my last year
the Faith of Life Protection Act, which protects babies at
least twenty four weeks old in the state of New Hampshire.
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New Hampshire Right to Life I started noon four. It
was probably ninety nine or two thousand something like that. Uh,
and former President of New Hampshire right till I've called
me up and said, hey, you know what you ought
to do. You ought to come down a man a
booth for us at the Hopkington Fair and to skip
over all the gory details. I did that and that
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started my actual public pro life activity and since then
I've had all the major offices at New Hampshire Right
to I've been a board member for fifteen years something
like that, and I've been the president. I've been the
vice president, been the treasurer, but I've never been the
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secretary and more willing, I never will be.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Taking notes, isn't isn't your strength?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah? I didn't want to be treasurer, but we were
in a hard place and I do have some skills
that came in handy and that moved us into the
digital agent the Treasurer's department. Right.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, so I'm curious, you know you have a lot
of experience obvious, you know, especially being a state rep
for so long, and you know you touched on the
fact that you you know, you ran because there weren't
enough pro lifers running in the state of New Hampshire.
So I guess I'm curious to hear more about how
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that experience was being in the state House, you know,
maybe being one of the few or not one of
the many many pro lifers in the state House. What
was that experience like?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So, first of all, I have to say it was.
It was challenging in a number of ways, but let's
start with it was a very, very beneficial time for me.
It was a great, great, gross opportunity. I tell people
all the time. At the eight years in the house,
I learned more than I learned it during my four
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years of college because you have to be involved in
so many various issues. It also gave me a great
perspective on the fact that most issues have a lot
of facets to them, and a lot of times there's
a major agreement among everybody about how to go forward.
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But what the expression is. The devil's in the details,
and those details can can take something that you thought
you were going to be one hundred percent for and
turn you right against it because well, you can't do that,
because because that's going to enhance the opportunity in the
case of being for pro life and legislation for people
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for people to kill more babies, Well we got to
do this because it's going to protect uh and and
support young young women, mothers and their children and their
and their futures. That kind of thing. But it doesn't
have to be a huge thing that makes you move
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from one side to the other. But on the big
things there's so very much division and it just remains
that way for that and for various most of it
has a difference in philosophy, as it is in the
pro life movement. We value life very highly, almost almost exploded,
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almost very marginally because we come from a God oriented perspective.
We're blessed to have a lot of people who come
from a more of a natural rights perspective. They just
think it's rational, which makes perfect sense. I mean, this
is how we pro create, how we keep our race alive.
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So you would think we would want to have more
babies and nurture them, right, But they're not from the
God side, and it takes them in places that I
didn't want to go so but that go ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
H No, I mean, but.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
One other thing. In the house, there's a very heavy
emphasis on protocol. You need to be you must be polite.
You have to talk in ways that do not make
the issue the person the issue. Right. You have to
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be clear at all times that when you're talking about
my friend from Hopkinson who voted the other who just
preceded me at the well and made a point, right,
is mistaken. That's all he is. He's not an ahole
or something like that, and you don't ever use his
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name because that's not a lot anyway. It gives you
an ability to develop the ability to be able to
talk to people, even to their face, and a much
more open and compassionate way. It was really good for
me that way.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's awesome. No, it's great. Thank you for sharing. Thank
you for sharing all that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And I can definitely imagine that I know what you
said about you know, learning more during your eight years
serving in the New Hampshire State representatives, learning more than
than you did in college. Like I could see how
that actually could be true, because I feel like there
is so much just from what I know. You know,
I'm not a not a state rep or anything.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But from what I know.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
About the legislative process, it seems like there's, like you said,
there's so much detail to it. You have to understand,
you know, completely, if you're going to pass ability, you
have to completely understand everything it says. And you're working
collaborating with a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, and that's another whole aspect to what it did,
because there's so many things. It's four hundred reps in
the state of New Hampshire's an amazing, amazing part to
be part of it, and you can always tell people
gives you a great humility to know you only went
out of four hundred and already get anything done. You've
got to bring two hundred and forty people, two hundred
and fifty people across with you, so you know, you've
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got to make a lot of friends. Always you have
to know a lot of people and be persuasive to
that many without So that's important, right. But at the
same time, there's a there's a there's a waitingness to
it that you sit in that chair in the house
and you look up and you see the people that
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are honored by having their pictures in the front of
the hall, you know, people with Daniel Webster and George
Washington and Abraham Lincoln, and you go wow, And then
you think about the fact that that seat has been
used longer than any other seat, you know, legislature in
the state, in the world, I think in the world,
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but certainly in the United States for longer than any
other time. And all these people that preceded you and
what they did. But you have to vote on all
these bills and it doesn't matter whether it's about the
environment or it's about life, or it's about taxes. It
just doesn't make any difference. You have to vote on
every single one. And you sit there and you think, oh,
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it sluks. In my case right now, I would be
representing about ten thousand people and I am their voice.
That's a lot to carry. You're going to figure out
what you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, it sounds like a great responsibility and privilege and duty.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Oh but the one thing you get when you go
in the host that you can't take, they can't take
away from you. You get the honorable that's in front
of my name.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Okay, great, very cool, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So courry, no, thank you for sharing all that about
you know, you have such great insight being a former
state rep.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Also, you know, curious to hear a little.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Bit more about you know, your involvement when New Hampshire
Right to Life.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So I recently joined the board.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So I don't know a ton of history about the
Board of New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Aid to Life.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But yeah, so what have you guys done it accomplished
in the past? I guess you know twenty twenty four
and before then, because that's kind of around the time
that I.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Joined the board.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
New Hampshire Right to Life is the oldest pro life
organization in New Hampshire. There used to be another one
called Citizens for Life. It was affiliated with National Rights
to Life, which we never were and we aren't today.
That's because we were always the hardest core of all
the whatever pro life groups they were in that we
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would not tolerate exceptions. So for example, we stood against
the Parental Notification Parental Consent Bill because it involved parental
consent and the parents don't have any right to consent
to the killing of their grandchildren.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So for our listeners who maybe don't exactly know what
the Consent Bill, you know, said, can you can you
explain a little bit more about that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
He said, you couldn't kill a baby, A mother couldn't
kill a baby by abortion without consent of their parents.
And so we thought that, and we were not one
of the people in the Problem Life movement were not
happy with us. Eventually we did pass they did pass
parental notification, so the parents had the right to be notified,
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not to consent. It got taken to the US Supreme
Court and sustained by the Supreme Court, which it then
got repealed. And when the Democrats took over the House
and Senate and governorship, and that was for I don't
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know when, I can't skip the dates, it doesn't matter.
And we reenacted it during my time. It was another
thing that we did. Uh So anyway, was this.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
For mothers of ages eighteen or less?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah? For minors? Minors okay, yeah, yeah, above everything wouldn't
need parental anything. They have adults. Right.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So is this in place today in New Hampshire?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's important.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Currently in the state of New Hampshire, if you are
under the age of eighteen, you need parental consent to
have an abortion unless you.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Get judicial bypass. Okay, you can go to court and
plead your case to the court that you shouldn't do that.
Typically they're going in us that their parents will kill
them or some such thing, right, uh, And the court
always of the time says, oh, okay, you can go
have your abortion. It's true in New Hampshire and as
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far as I know, there's never been a case it's
gone to a court to bypass parentalification that has failed.
They always say yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And are both both parents required to consent or just.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
One parent just one just notification that to the parents
that it's under considerate, under consideration. And I was really
excited to see that happen with medical procedures. Just last
week in the state, governor signed the bill that said
school personnel could not transport for a quote medical procedure
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end quote, yes, notifying the parents and it may exact
right because that includes abortion.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And that's House Bill two thirty one, right that. So
that's so this bill that just pasked. But like you
just said, just to repeat what you said, So basically
a school school personnel or school faculty at a high school,
for example, they can't transfer a student to any sort
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of medical appointment or facility that's non life threatening now
because of this bill, right so unless unless it's a
life threatening situation, they're not allowed to without the without
the parents consent or right transfer that.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that, because that's the feature
of all pro life legislation is that it always allows
for UH the natural emergency situation, whether in abortion it's
the life of the mother or UH to potentially save
the life of the child, or in these other laws.
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We always have done that. Every place across the current,
across the country, does that as far as I know,
around the world. But I'll give you just a brief
overview of New Hampshire Right to Life and what we
did and do just because you asked me and I get
into the house stuff too much. So nineteen seventy two,
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before ro Versus Way, New Hampshire Right to Life was formed,
and as far as I am aware, it's always been
roughly the same thing. We have a quote board end
quote which actually is the operational portion, primary primary operational
portion of the New Hampshire Right to Life. We started
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out with what was going on at that time, which
is a lot of street activism and a lot of
that was quite confrontational. It was we were opposed, as
we have been right throughout by pretty much every establishment
organization there is in that case, particularly the police. I
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personally know with one or two people who were injured
police for standing outside on the public sidewalk with signs,
and well, you know, people get upset, right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So we did that in the eighties or what.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Decade that was in the two.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Thousands, oh, two thousands, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, really early two thousands, yeah, okay, I was.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
We didn't want to that. We didn't want to protesting
in front of various places, most notably Planned Parents. They
have a big annual fundraiser importments every year for the
Levering Center, and we used to be there. I actually
we actually I don't think I still have them. We
actually had four y eight signs that showed the board fetuses,
all the parts and everything, and we went out and
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stood them up by where the people would be coming in,
just to let them see what they were doing. We
thought at that time that the site of such a
thing would be enough to turn one's heart away from
killing babies, but that turned out to be false, and
we did that for quite a few years until one
day we were down in porcements it was wicked cold.
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They're like five of us going out in the middle
of the winter and it was at night and we're
there and the and the person who was running the
show came out from the theater they were using imporcements
and said to me, I want to thank you for
being here. You bo's start fundraising by somewhere between twenty
and fifty.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Boy, people realized that they're strong. There is serious opposition.
They'll be there. They're out there.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That makes sense. Okay, so you realize it. Maybe your
efforts were.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
So we did we did. Yeah, yeah, it's a feudal
exercise at best. Uh, so we did that. We've done
March for Life for ages. As far as I know
that touch.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
On, I didn't want to touch on that a little
bit with the March for Life. So so that's something
that New Hampshire Life is still doing, is currently doing.
And there was a March for Life this January, right,
I believe it was January January eleventh.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think, so, I don't know, Hey, Ben, could you
pull up that photo?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, so, Ben, our producer, just pulled up this photo.
But this was a picture from this year's March for Life.
These are some students from un EH University of New
Hampshire who came out to the New Hampshire March for
Life that New Hampshire right till Life put on so and.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I particularly proud of the one on the left, that's
Sam Farrington. He's a rookie rep right now. He was
running for the first time and a ward in Rochester
that his opponent has had for roughly thirty years. And
he beat him. And I told him right after after
that happened. First time I saw him, I told you,
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my hero, because you take this guy out. But yeah, well,
so the martial life is great. It's always in the winter,
frequently on the coldest day of the year. We have
a memorial service at the landfill for the babies that
were dumped there and again twenty five years ago. Then
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we go down to the State House. A Catholic Mass
that goes on at Saint John the Evangelist Church. We
have a we rally at the State House around eleven
thirty or so and we walk from there down to
the church with pro life signs and some people singing
pro life songs, always peacefully, always quietly. And in all
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the years I've been doing it, which is a lot
of them. There's only been one incident that ever involved
anybody else, and that was when a store owner came
out of the store and it costs to a couple
of people because they were stopping the street light. Uh.
Classed a couple of people for being there and destroying
your business, they said, But that's the only one that's
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ever happened. Every other time, we've had lots of protesters
some years. Some years we don't protesters from the other side.
They stand up outside the Point of parenthood and make
very unnice things, say nice, very unnice things to us,
and we encourage people and we've been very successful with
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this to not have anybody actually engage with them. So
we hear it.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, Well, I was a very I mean, I loved
I loved attending the New Hampshire March for Life.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
This year.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It was my first year attending it. And well, it
was a little cold this year. I will say that
it was a little snowy.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It was thirty degree weather for goodness, when it was
ten degrees below zero.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Maybe I'm just a little warmer here in Connecticut.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Unfortunately, this year we got pretty good coverage by the media.
The Union leader and the TV stations were there for
many years. Eight back, twenty years ago. It was like
pert page news because this is the biggest civil demonstration
in our state every year. Right we have hundreds literally
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technically hundreds of people every year. The least I think
we've ever seen is like three hundred, and at one
point we were approaching five hundred people marching down through
the streets of Conquer with pro life signs. They aren't
graphic the way they used to be. Now it's just
you know, abortion kills, women need support, blah blah blah.
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There's lots of great slogans that go on those signs
about us being pro life, but for years the media
wouldn't cover it. They just stopped, No, we're not going
to that doesn't count.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, well, I'm glad that they're covering it this year.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And you know, I just want to say thank you, Kurt,
thank you for coming on the podcast today. We're going
to probably try to wrap up a little bit here,
but really are grateful for you coming on and sharing
some history of New Hampshire Ray to Life and your
experience as a as a state rep and when New
Hampshire to Life is currently doing, and Cindy and I
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always end with we both pick a scripture passage that's
related to the right to life and to life, so
we're probably going to end with that.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So yeah, okay, So thank you pleasure to talk about
life issues.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Thank you God, Bless you God, bless your family and
my God. Yeah, continue to lead you. Okay. So shall
I go first?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, you go first?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Okay. So the scripture sure I chose today is from
Matthew Chapter ten, verses twenty eight to thirty one. Jesus
is talking to his disciples before he sends them out
on a mission. Jesus said, and do not fear those
who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather
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fear him who can destroy both soul and body. In hell,
are not two sparrow's soul for a penny, and not
one of them will fall to the ground apart from
your father. But even the hairs of your head are
all numbered.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Fear not.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Therefore you are of more value than many sparrows. So
that is the scripture I chose. Jesus tells us that
we are We are so valuable and precious, more than
many many sparrows. And even if somebody can kill the body,
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they cannot destroy the soul that God cares that will
last forever.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So that's why I chose beautiful. That's beautiful. Thank you
for sharing. And honestly, I think I feel like ours
are always related, probably because they're about life, and of
course they're related. But this is the one I chose.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I chose some one thirty nine, thirteen through sixteen. So
it says, for you created my inmost being, you knit
me together and my mother's womb. I praise you because
I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful.
I know that full well. And yeah, I feel like
this just like fits so well with yours as well,
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because you know you're talking about the being the hairs
of your head being numbered, and I feel like that
just fits super well with like the word saying yes,
you know I knit you together and your mother's womb
and including those hairs on your head.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
So so yeah, that's that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yes, that's the verse I chose for episode one. So
that's cool.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I was like, this is the virtue.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I think you've used this one before, but it's a
good we should just keep emphasizing it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I agree, it's it's definitely a beautiful verse.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So well, all right, well, thank you Sandy.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
This was great.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I'm glad we were able to bring our special guest
Kurt on today.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, and we should be having an exciting lineup of
guests coming up in the future weeks. Thank you to
all of our thousand plus listeners who are tuning in
and make God bless you. Should we pray to close
today's episode? Sure?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, okay?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Do you want to pray or should I?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I can, okay, Fathers on the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Amen, Lord, thank you for this time, Thank you for
this podcast, Thank you for our special guest, the honorable Kurt,
and we pray for all of our listeners and for
all of our future guests future guests. We pray for
that everybody has a a great week. Yeah amen, I'm
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Speaker 2 (30:06):
Amen.
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Welcome to ever Living, a new podcast about valuing life
here on Earth and for eternity. We are your life loving.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hosts Cindy and Jessica.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Every week on ever Living, we create a space for
sharing the stories and voices of those who work and
pray to create a culture of that values and protect
life in New England and beyond. So welcome to episode three. Everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yay, Hi Cindy, Hi Jessica.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
How was your past week? Anything memorable happened?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, I'm trying to think. I feel like it's been
a very busy week for me. Yeah, a lot going
on with work and things like that. I know, on
last week's episode, I had actually mentioned that I was
doing a lot for work with the defund Planned Parents
hood efforts and just I would say the most memorable
thing that has happened this week is just last night,
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the House of Representatives past the new budget, the new
budget federal budget and at the House level, and it
includes language to defund planned parenthood, which is really exciting
because hopefully we can, you know, use our funding and
money to support services that actually help help women.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, not planned parents, who's most of their services are abortioned.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So yeah, So I'd said that was probably the most
memorable thing that's happened this week.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay, good, and hopefully we'll hear more about that about
the House of Representatives from our special guest today.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, well let's yeah do that.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
How about you? How's your week beend?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, it's been very cold and rainy here in New England.
Have you been experiencing that?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, it's vergid.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's been like graining for the past just like twelve hours,
I think so, and I heard from the actually three days.
So stay inside and drink, drink warm drinks and watch
movies this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I'm looking ahead to and I think next week
we'll have better weather, so that'll be good. Okay, Well,
we are very excited for a special guest today. His
name is the honorable Kurt Wolper, the Kurt Wolper. He well, well,
(02:32):
let's welcome Kurt. Well, let me tell everybody about Kurt.
Okay he oh he is.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
From just want to do that again. So, so, hey,
how you doing good.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Here's a little introduction. Kurt is from Strafford. He uh
want is you're looking to represent Strafford District three. That's
Barrington and Strafford in New Hampshire, OH District four, Barrington
and Strafford. Okay, you are a Strafford moderator and you
(03:09):
are the Strafford School District moderator. You're a veteran in
the US Army with four years of active duty, fifteen
months in Vietnam and two years of inactive reserves. You
have a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration from you
and h You worked at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard for thirty
four years, with the last twenty years in Shipboard Test
(03:32):
Engineering branch. You led Boy Scout and Cut Scout programs
in Strafford. You've lived in Strafford for thirty years with
your wonderful wife Bethene, been married for forty years. You
have one son and two granddaughters and keen. So, Kurt,
welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Well, thank you, I take care of my wife. What
about you?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And now, well let's hear more about you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Kurt.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So, I've done with New Hampshire Right to Life for like,
that's right, five years.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
That's that's a big reason we wanted to bring you
on the podcast today.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know, obviously we want to hear a little bit
of your background.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
In general, but we definitely want to want to hear
about your experience as a state rep and you know,
being on the board for New Hampshire Right to Life.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So yeah, let's just.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
So he started, it's my quick history of New Hampshire
Right to Me and answering the other question that you
asked at that moment, right, So roughly nineteen ninety four, no,
exactly nineteen ninety four, I became, I got saved and
as a result I became a pro life activist. So
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for a few years all I did was writing letters
to the editor and support my wife who was at
that time involved with the pregnancy center in Dover, and
just ches was pro life. By two thousand, whatever it is, eleven,
(05:08):
I retired from the Navy Yard to run for the
House because with mine at the even at that time
my ten year tenure with New Hampshire Right to Life,
the biggest challenge we had was we didn't have enough
pro life for apps. We needed more pro life voices
and for them to be organized in the House. So
(05:29):
I did that and I won, served four terms eight
years and we have the crowning achievement of the pro
life movement and conquered thus far in my last year
the Faith of Life Protection Act, which protects babies at
least twenty four weeks old in the state of New Hampshire.
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New Hampshire Right to Life I started noon four. It
was probably ninety nine or two thousand something like that. Uh,
and former President of New Hampshire right till I've called
me up and said, hey, you know what you ought
to do. You ought to come down a man a
booth for us at the Hopkington Fair and to skip
over all the gory details. I did that and that
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started my actual public pro life activity and since then
I've had all the major offices at New Hampshire Right
to I've been a board member for fifteen years something
like that, and I've been the president. I've been the
vice president, been the treasurer, but I've never been the
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secretary and more willing, I never will be.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Taking notes, isn't isn't your strength?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah? I didn't want to be treasurer, but we were
in a hard place and I do have some skills
that came in handy and that moved us into the
digital agent the Treasurer's department. Right.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, so I'm curious, you know you have a lot
of experience obvious, you know, especially being a state rep
for so long, and you know you touched on the
fact that you you know, you ran because there weren't
enough pro lifers running in the state of New Hampshire.
So I guess I'm curious to hear more about how
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that experience was being in the state House, you know,
maybe being one of the few or not one of
the many many pro lifers in the state House. What
was that experience like?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So, first of all, I have to say it was.
It was challenging in a number of ways, but let's
start with it was a very, very beneficial time for me.
It was a great, great, gross opportunity. I tell people
all the time. At the eight years in the house,
I learned more than I learned it during my four
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years of college because you have to be involved in
so many various issues. It also gave me a great
perspective on the fact that most issues have a lot
of facets to them, and a lot of times there's
a major agreement among everybody about how to go forward.
(08:13):
But what the expression is. The devil's in the details,
and those details can can take something that you thought
you were going to be one hundred percent for and
turn you right against it because well, you can't do that,
because because that's going to enhance the opportunity in the
case of being for pro life and legislation for people
(08:36):
for people to kill more babies, Well we got to
do this because it's going to protect uh and and
support young young women, mothers and their children and their
and their futures. That kind of thing. But it doesn't
have to be a huge thing that makes you move
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from one side to the other. But on the big
things there's so very much division and it just remains
that way for that and for various most of it
has a difference in philosophy, as it is in the
pro life movement. We value life very highly, almost almost exploded,
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almost very marginally because we come from a God oriented perspective.
We're blessed to have a lot of people who come
from a more of a natural rights perspective. They just
think it's rational, which makes perfect sense. I mean, this
is how we pro create, how we keep our race alive.
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So you would think we would want to have more
babies and nurture them, right, But they're not from the
God side, and it takes them in places that I
didn't want to go so but that go ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
H No, I mean, but.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
One other thing. In the house, there's a very heavy
emphasis on protocol. You need to be you must be polite.
You have to talk in ways that do not make
the issue the person the issue. Right. You have to
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be clear at all times that when you're talking about
my friend from Hopkinson who voted the other who just
preceded me at the well and made a point, right,
is mistaken. That's all he is. He's not an ahole
or something like that, and you don't ever use his
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name because that's not a lot anyway. It gives you
an ability to develop the ability to be able to
talk to people, even to their face, and a much
more open and compassionate way. It was really good for
me that way.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's awesome. No, it's great. Thank you for sharing. Thank
you for sharing all that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And I can definitely imagine that I know what you
said about you know, learning more during your eight years
serving in the New Hampshire State representatives, learning more than
than you did in college. Like I could see how
that actually could be true, because I feel like there
is so much just from what I know. You know,
I'm not a not a state rep or anything.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But from what I know.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
About the legislative process, it seems like there's, like you said,
there's so much detail to it. You have to understand,
you know, completely, if you're going to pass ability, you
have to completely understand everything it says. And you're working
collaborating with a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, and that's another whole aspect to what it did,
because there's so many things. It's four hundred reps in
the state of New Hampshire's an amazing, amazing part to
be part of it, and you can always tell people
gives you a great humility to know you only went
out of four hundred and already get anything done. You've
got to bring two hundred and forty people, two hundred
and fifty people across with you, so you know, you've
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got to make a lot of friends. Always you have
to know a lot of people and be persuasive to
that many without So that's important, right. But at the
same time, there's a there's a there's a waitingness to
it that you sit in that chair in the house
and you look up and you see the people that
(12:28):
are honored by having their pictures in the front of
the hall, you know, people with Daniel Webster and George
Washington and Abraham Lincoln, and you go wow, And then
you think about the fact that that seat has been
used longer than any other seat, you know, legislature in
the state, in the world, I think in the world,
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but certainly in the United States for longer than any
other time. And all these people that preceded you and
what they did. But you have to vote on all
these bills and it doesn't matter whether it's about the
environment or it's about life, or it's about taxes. It
just doesn't make any difference. You have to vote on
every single one. And you sit there and you think, oh,
(13:10):
it sluks. In my case right now, I would be
representing about ten thousand people and I am their voice.
That's a lot to carry. You're going to figure out
what you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, it sounds like a great responsibility and privilege and duty.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Oh but the one thing you get when you go
in the host that you can't take, they can't take
away from you. You get the honorable that's in front
of my name.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Okay, great, very cool, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So courry, no, thank you for sharing all that about
you know, you have such great insight being a former
state rep.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Also, you know, curious to hear a little.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Bit more about you know, your involvement when New Hampshire
Right to Life.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So I recently joined the board.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So I don't know a ton of history about the
Board of New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Aid to Life.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But yeah, so what have you guys done it accomplished
in the past? I guess you know twenty twenty four
and before then, because that's kind of around the time
that I.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Joined the board.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
New Hampshire Right to Life is the oldest pro life
organization in New Hampshire. There used to be another one
called Citizens for Life. It was affiliated with National Rights
to Life, which we never were and we aren't today.
That's because we were always the hardest core of all
the whatever pro life groups they were in that we
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would not tolerate exceptions. So for example, we stood against
the Parental Notification Parental Consent Bill because it involved parental
consent and the parents don't have any right to consent
to the killing of their grandchildren.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So for our listeners who maybe don't exactly know what
the Consent Bill, you know, said, can you can you
explain a little bit more about that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
He said, you couldn't kill a baby, A mother couldn't
kill a baby by abortion without consent of their parents.
And so we thought that, and we were not one
of the people in the Problem Life movement were not
happy with us. Eventually we did pass they did pass
parental notification, so the parents had the right to be notified,
(15:29):
not to consent. It got taken to the US Supreme
Court and sustained by the Supreme Court, which it then
got repealed. And when the Democrats took over the House
and Senate and governorship, and that was for I don't
(15:49):
know when, I can't skip the dates, it doesn't matter.
And we reenacted it during my time. It was another
thing that we did. Uh So anyway, was this.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
For mothers of ages eighteen or less?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah? For minors? Minors okay, yeah, yeah, above everything wouldn't
need parental anything. They have adults. Right.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So is this in place today in New Hampshire?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's important.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Currently in the state of New Hampshire, if you are
under the age of eighteen, you need parental consent to
have an abortion unless you.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Get judicial bypass. Okay, you can go to court and
plead your case to the court that you shouldn't do that.
Typically they're going in us that their parents will kill
them or some such thing, right, uh, And the court
always of the time says, oh, okay, you can go
have your abortion. It's true in New Hampshire and as
(16:56):
far as I know, there's never been a case it's
gone to a court to bypass parentalification that has failed.
They always say yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And are both both parents required to consent or just.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
One parent just one just notification that to the parents
that it's under considerate, under consideration. And I was really
excited to see that happen with medical procedures. Just last
week in the state, governor signed the bill that said
school personnel could not transport for a quote medical procedure
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end quote, yes, notifying the parents and it may exact
right because that includes abortion.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And that's House Bill two thirty one, right that. So
that's so this bill that just pasked. But like you
just said, just to repeat what you said, So basically
a school school personnel or school faculty at a high school,
for example, they can't transfer a student to any sort
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of medical appointment or facility that's non life threatening now
because of this bill, right so unless unless it's a
life threatening situation, they're not allowed to without the without
the parents consent or right transfer that.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that, because that's the feature
of all pro life legislation is that it always allows
for UH the natural emergency situation, whether in abortion it's
the life of the mother or UH to potentially save
the life of the child, or in these other laws.
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We always have done that. Every place across the current,
across the country, does that as far as I know,
around the world. But I'll give you just a brief
overview of New Hampshire Right to Life and what we
did and do just because you asked me and I get
into the house stuff too much. So nineteen seventy two,
(19:10):
before ro Versus Way, New Hampshire Right to Life was formed,
and as far as I am aware, it's always been
roughly the same thing. We have a quote board end
quote which actually is the operational portion, primary primary operational
portion of the New Hampshire Right to Life. We started
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out with what was going on at that time, which
is a lot of street activism and a lot of
that was quite confrontational. It was we were opposed, as
we have been right throughout by pretty much every establishment
organization there is in that case, particularly the police. I
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personally know with one or two people who were injured
police for standing outside on the public sidewalk with signs,
and well, you know, people get upset, right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So we did that in the eighties or what.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Decade that was in the two.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Thousands, oh, two thousands, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, really early two thousands, yeah, okay, I was.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
We didn't want to that. We didn't want to protesting
in front of various places, most notably Planned Parents. They
have a big annual fundraiser importments every year for the
Levering Center, and we used to be there. I actually
we actually I don't think I still have them. We
actually had four y eight signs that showed the board fetuses,
all the parts and everything, and we went out and
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stood them up by where the people would be coming in,
just to let them see what they were doing. We
thought at that time that the site of such a
thing would be enough to turn one's heart away from
killing babies, but that turned out to be false, and
we did that for quite a few years until one
day we were down in porcements it was wicked cold.
(21:13):
They're like five of us going out in the middle
of the winter and it was at night and we're
there and the and the person who was running the
show came out from the theater they were using imporcements
and said to me, I want to thank you for
being here. You bo's start fundraising by somewhere between twenty
and fifty.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Boy, people realized that they're strong. There is serious opposition.
They'll be there. They're out there.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That makes sense. Okay, so you realize it. Maybe your
efforts were.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
So we did we did. Yeah, yeah, it's a feudal
exercise at best. Uh, so we did that. We've done
March for Life for ages. As far as I know
that touch.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
On, I didn't want to touch on that a little
bit with the March for Life. So so that's something
that New Hampshire Life is still doing, is currently doing.
And there was a March for Life this January, right,
I believe it was January January eleventh.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think, so, I don't know, Hey, Ben, could you
pull up that photo?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, so, Ben, our producer, just pulled up this photo.
But this was a picture from this year's March for Life.
These are some students from un EH University of New
Hampshire who came out to the New Hampshire March for
Life that New Hampshire right till Life put on so and.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I particularly proud of the one on the left, that's
Sam Farrington. He's a rookie rep right now. He was
running for the first time and a ward in Rochester
that his opponent has had for roughly thirty years. And
he beat him. And I told him right after after
that happened. First time I saw him, I told you,
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my hero, because you take this guy out. But yeah, well,
so the martial life is great. It's always in the winter,
frequently on the coldest day of the year. We have
a memorial service at the landfill for the babies that
were dumped there and again twenty five years ago. Then
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we go down to the State House. A Catholic Mass
that goes on at Saint John the Evangelist Church. We
have a we rally at the State House around eleven
thirty or so and we walk from there down to
the church with pro life signs and some people singing
pro life songs, always peacefully, always quietly. And in all
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the years I've been doing it, which is a lot
of them. There's only been one incident that ever involved
anybody else, and that was when a store owner came
out of the store and it costs to a couple
of people because they were stopping the street light. Uh.
Classed a couple of people for being there and destroying
your business, they said, But that's the only one that's
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ever happened. Every other time, we've had lots of protesters
some years. Some years we don't protesters from the other side.
They stand up outside the Point of parenthood and make
very unnice things, say nice, very unnice things to us,
and we encourage people and we've been very successful with
(24:33):
this to not have anybody actually engage with them. So
we hear it.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, Well, I was a very I mean, I loved
I loved attending the New Hampshire March for Life.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
This year.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It was my first year attending it. And well, it
was a little cold this year. I will say that
it was a little snowy.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It was thirty degree weather for goodness, when it was
ten degrees below zero.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Maybe I'm just a little warmer here in Connecticut.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Unfortunately, this year we got pretty good coverage by the media.
The Union leader and the TV stations were there for
many years. Eight back, twenty years ago. It was like
pert page news because this is the biggest civil demonstration
in our state every year. Right we have hundreds literally
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technically hundreds of people every year. The least I think
we've ever seen is like three hundred, and at one
point we were approaching five hundred people marching down through
the streets of Conquer with pro life signs. They aren't
graphic the way they used to be. Now it's just
you know, abortion kills, women need support, blah blah blah.
(25:49):
There's lots of great slogans that go on those signs
about us being pro life, but for years the media
wouldn't cover it. They just stopped, No, we're not going
to that doesn't count.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, well, I'm glad that they're covering it this year.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And you know, I just want to say thank you, Kurt,
thank you for coming on the podcast today. We're going
to probably try to wrap up a little bit here,
but really are grateful for you coming on and sharing
some history of New Hampshire Ray to Life and your
experience as a as a state rep and when New
Hampshire to Life is currently doing, and Cindy and I
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always end with we both pick a scripture passage that's
related to the right to life and to life, so
we're probably going to end with that.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So yeah, okay, So thank you pleasure to talk about
life issues.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Thank you God, Bless you God, bless your family and
my God. Yeah, continue to lead you. Okay. So shall
I go first?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, you go first?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Okay. So the scripture sure I chose today is from
Matthew Chapter ten, verses twenty eight to thirty one. Jesus
is talking to his disciples before he sends them out
on a mission. Jesus said, and do not fear those
who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather
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fear him who can destroy both soul and body. In hell,
are not two sparrow's soul for a penny, and not
one of them will fall to the ground apart from
your father. But even the hairs of your head are
all numbered.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Fear not.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Therefore you are of more value than many sparrows. So
that is the scripture I chose. Jesus tells us that
we are We are so valuable and precious, more than
many many sparrows. And even if somebody can kill the body,
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they cannot destroy the soul that God cares that will
last forever.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So that's why I chose beautiful. That's beautiful. Thank you
for sharing. And honestly, I think I feel like ours
are always related, probably because they're about life, and of
course they're related. But this is the one I chose.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I chose some one thirty nine, thirteen through sixteen. So
it says, for you created my inmost being, you knit
me together and my mother's womb. I praise you because
I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful.
I know that full well. And yeah, I feel like
this just like fits so well with yours as well,
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because you know you're talking about the being the hairs
of your head being numbered, and I feel like that
just fits super well with like the word saying yes,
you know I knit you together and your mother's womb
and including those hairs on your head.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
So so yeah, that's that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yes, that's the verse I chose for episode one. So
that's cool.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I was like, this is the virtue.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I think you've used this one before, but it's a
good we should just keep emphasizing it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I agree, it's it's definitely a beautiful verse.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So well, all right, well, thank you Sandy.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
This was great.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I'm glad we were able to bring our special guest
Kurt on today.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, and we should be having an exciting lineup of
guests coming up in the future weeks. Thank you to
all of our thousand plus listeners who are tuning in
and make God bless you. Should we pray to close
today's episode? Sure?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, okay?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Do you want to pray or should I?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I can, okay, Fathers on the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Amen, Lord, thank you for this time, Thank you for
this podcast, Thank you for our special guest, the honorable Kurt,
and we pray for all of our listeners and for
all of our future guests future guests. We pray for
that everybody has a a great week. Yeah amen, I'm
(30:04):
my father and this on the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
If I everyone by week.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
See you next week. Thank you for listening to the
Ever Living Podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
If you have scripture questions or things you'd like to share,
please feel free to email us at ever livingpodat gmail
dot com. Also make sure to follow us on Instagram
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Speaker 2 (30:36):
See you next week.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
May God bless you and be very near to you,
and may you be ever living
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