July 23, 2025 • 44 mins
Tara Bishop, with over 25 years in nonprofit and corporate marketing communications, serves as the Communications Director for the Diocese of Manchester. Starting with internships at PR firms and the Archdiocese of Boston during her Boston College years (BA in Communications, minor in Irish Studies), she worked in PR and nonprofit marketing before freelancing for 14 years, crafting campaigns in healthcare, education, technology, and real estate. Her career circled back to the Church, where she manages media relations and serves as Diocesan spokesperson.
A Yankee Chapter/PRSA member, Tara aids with social media and is a founding board member of the Pennacook Pregnancy Center. She navigates the evolving media landscape as her biggest PR challenge. Tara, her husband, Tim, and their four children, who attend Catholic schools, are parishioners at St. Catherine of Siena in Manchester. She enjoys family lake time and aspires to take her children to Ireland, where she studied abroad and honeymooned.
Thank you for watching The Ever-Living Podcast, a heartfelt space to share the stories and voices of women who champion a culture that values and protects life. Each episode we seek to empower, offering connection, hope, and strength through the journeys of those who work and pray for this cause. Crafted for women seeking purpose and community, we welcome you to join us in cherishing every single heartbeat.
A Yankee Chapter/PRSA member, Tara aids with social media and is a founding board member of the Pennacook Pregnancy Center. She navigates the evolving media landscape as her biggest PR challenge. Tara, her husband, Tim, and their four children, who attend Catholic schools, are parishioners at St. Catherine of Siena in Manchester. She enjoys family lake time and aspires to take her children to Ireland, where she studied abroad and honeymooned.
Thank you for watching The Ever-Living Podcast, a heartfelt space to share the stories and voices of women who champion a culture that values and protects life. Each episode we seek to empower, offering connection, hope, and strength through the journeys of those who work and pray for this cause. Crafted for women seeking purpose and community, we welcome you to join us in cherishing every single heartbeat.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to ever Living Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's a podcast where.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We every week we aim to share the stories and
voices of those who work and pray to value life
in New England and beyond.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Welcome to ever Living.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm we are your ever Living hosts Cindy.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Temporarily.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yes, all right, so welcome Jason to the Ever Living Podcast.
What what do you have to share with our listeners
this week?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well, I just wanted to give a quick update. You
may or may not have seen that the Governor of
New Hampshire, Kelly Ayot, has vetoed HB sixty sixty seven.
So if you're not aware of HB six sixty seven, uh,
it's a it's a It's something that's in place in
a lot of other states where it requires showing a
short video that is not really advocacy, but just basic
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biology of fetal development. And if you get a chance
at home, just go on YouTube and type in baby Olivia.
And the reason I'm really a huge fan of that
is because I think a lot of people don't understand
where we all come from. How we have organs even
at eight weeks, how you have fingerprints at nine weeks,
you have a heart beating a six weeks and just
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to be good members of society. This is really require knowledge,
just because people are going to be making all sorts
of decisions later, who they vote for, even pregnancy, and
equipping them with the knowledge is I think should be
the basics and.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
To understand how they grew in the womb.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, and how we all grew absolutely. So there were
two representatives who were really instrumental in this. They were
Representative John Seller and Glenn Cordelli, and they were able
to make the changes that were needed and work with
the legislature to get this past both houses, this House
in the Senate of the New Hampshire Legislature. And you're
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hoping and praying that the that they'll override the governor's veto,
but it's going to be very difficult.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
It's really too bad because it's really just common sense
knowledge that really should already be being taught in you know,
public school curriculum that exactly like how we how we
are formed.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
In the womb.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
And it's just it's educational, it's science, it's biology, And
I agree with you, it's so important that for any
decision that people are making later in life that they
know this information.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
So yeah, no, definitely with you that it.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Should be should be hopefully hopefully the House of you know,
representatives in the Senate that they veto it because that's
or that they override it, because that's that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, So if your viewers want to do something, they
can call up their representatives and hopefully we can get
as many on board.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, I hope that Governor Ayat has seen videos, educational
videos like Baby Olivia and can see.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The good value in educating.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
The youth and it's not not blocking good education and
scientific evidence and all that.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
So that sometimes people talk about it as like propaganda,
like it's like some sort of sort of pro life propaganda,
but that's just simply not true. And and again, yeah,
I encourage people to go watch the Baby Olivia video
because it's literally just talking about the actual fetal development markers.
It's not any form of propaganda. It's science.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
And Jessica, I was just gonna I was going to
say literally just that, and you know, you're on the
right side of this issue when basic when the other
side considers basic science to be against them and to
be propaganda. So where that's how we know, I think
we're on the right side.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, it probably is propaganda to block information and to
like like book burning essentially is a form of propaganda.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So we want to make information available.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, and how many people would choose life if they
weren't told that it's just a clump of cells that
they were told Actually, this is a small human being
who has a heartbeat, who has you know, can feel
pain at a certain point, and all sorts of other
things that we have. And yeah, so that's that's why
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we do it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
All right, thanks, thanks for having sharing, Jason, Yeah, coming
on the pod.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So Jessica, what does your shirt say today?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yes, so it says no woman stands alone. And also
it has the website standing with You dot org. And
this has a shirt by the umbrella organization, the Pro
Life Generation, which Students for Life of America is underneath.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
That's the organization I work for.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
And essentially this website we're just advertising, you know, Yes,
we don't want any woman to stand alone. But Standing
with You dot org is a website that women can
go to if they're facing an unplanned pregnancy or they
need parenting resources wherever they are in the country, and
they can put in their zip code and it will
populate pregnancy resources and parenting resources in whatever area they
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live in. And a lot of resources on there include
like pregnancy resource centers obviously that provide lots of material
goods and ultrasounds and pregnancy tests and counseling things like that.
But there's also other resources on there as well. I've
seen like career help, so like like career centers if
a woman needs help getting a job. I also spoke
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actually spoke with somebody yesterday who's a pro life duela
in uses and we're going to try to get her
added to the web site for the Springfield, Massachusetts area
because she's looking to reach women in need. So yeah,
it's standing with you dot org and really just it's
just an initiative to get people connected to the resources
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that they need and know that they're not alone when
they're facing an UNPI pregnancy or pregnancy in general.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Wow, that's amazing. Well, an excellent pregnancy resource center that
we have in New Hampshire in Manchester is Pennacook Pregnancy
Center And also another resource is a home for mothers
and their children called Saint Johnna's Place. And today we
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have a very special guest on our podcast. She is
a board member for both places, Pennacook Pregnancy Center and
Saint Johna's Place. Let's welcome Tara Bishop to Ever Living Podcast.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Welcome Tara, thank you for having me, Thank you for
being here.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, we're so excited to welcome you to our show.
But yeah, how's your how's your summer been going.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh, it's been busy, lots of travel. I have four children,
and I have the Nationals Dance competition and just travel
for work. So I'm hoping to relax a little bit
the rest of this month, get a little outdoor time.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I hope.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
I hope that you're gonna have that too.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I feel like summer is always interesting groups for some people,
I feel like it's like super RESTful, there's nothing going on,
and then other people it's like travel it here, travel there.
But that's yeah, I hope. I'm hoping you can get
more some time to rest.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So, Okay, Well, let's learn more about more about Panicook
Pregnancy Center. Tara, can you describe describe picnic Coook Pregnancy
Center to our listeners?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Sure, I'd love to. Panicook Pregnancy Center is named for
the street it's actually at the top of which is
on the same street as Planned Parenthood in Manchester. It
all started over fifteen years ago when prayer volunteers were
looking to be able to refer people from Planned Parenthood
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to a safe place to talk and reflect and maybe
change their minds, but also get resources if they want
to if they chose to keep their babies. So these
prayer volunteers would stand outside Planned Parenthood on Surgical Abortion Day,
which has changed days of the week since then, but
in particular it is now on Wednesdays, so they would
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stand there pray for people going in, and some sidewalk
counselors would offer help and resources. After doing that for
many years, the need to have a pregnancy resource center
right in the neighborhood to be able to walk to
was clear. So the director, Catherine Kelly, started Penticook Pregnancy
Center in September of twenty thirteen and I am found
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board member and continue to serve on the board with
the group of volunteers. When we are a one hundred
percent all volunteer, one hundred percent donation based center, so
everything we do is free to the people that visit us,
and everything we do is volunteer based. We are blessed
to have generous donors that can remember us consistently that
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we're able to do this work. So we are open
Monday to Thursdays ten am to four pm, and we
offer free pregnancy tests, diapers, wipes, referrals to healthcare organizations,
referrals to childcare, referrals for transportation, referrals to a mistake.
Health sometimes different areas that people have for need. So
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many times people have abortions because they maybe can't afford something,
or can't find an apartment or can't get a car,
or they don't know what to do. So that's sometimes
why and would turn to abortions. So we try to
take away any barrier that might be happening for that
particular woman or family, and so we have counseling and
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everything we do is whatever the person needs to come
to us, So truly it depends on the client and
the day and what's going on. So we also provide
clothing up to five T for children because siblings need
things too, So yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
That's wonderful. It's glad to hear you guys gifts up
for siblings as well. That's a definitely a supportive way
to you know, to support you know, families in need.
And I think that shows like, yeah, you really are
willing to help people even after they have their baby.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Right in the south of the baby. We do truly
care for the mothers and the families and the siblings.
We have books, we have baby items, strollers, car seats,
you name it. We we do donate a lot of
car seats because as you know, you're not allowed to
leave the hospital if you have a newborn without a
new car seat, so we make sure women have that too.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Wow, Terra.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So how can people contact Pennicook Pregnancy Center or visit.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Sure You Care? Sure thank you. We are located at
six fifty seven B Chestnut Street, top of Pennacook Street
in Manchester. It's a big green building. We have a
purple door so that it stands out from the other
businesses on our block. It's a block long building. We're
open Mondays, as I mentioned Mondays through Thursdays ten am
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to four pm. But you can call any time like
we do take messages from voicemail but also on Facebook.
So our Facebook page is at NH Pregnancy Help and
our phone number is six oh three two oh six
five three o six, and our website is Penticook pregnancy
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dot org.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Okay, let's can we take a look at the website.
Let's look at it now. Let's go to Yeah, let's
go to Penticook pregnancy dot org. Check it out. Yeah,
oh nice. New Hampshire is a safe haven state.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yes, we have a little pop up there to kind
of tell people about the latest update to the Safe.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Haven parents Okay, yep, said sixty one days yep of
safe Yeah, safe Haven. Okay, so this is the front page.
If you're pregnant, you don't have to go through it alone.
Very awesome. Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Now three and the three choices women have right, parenting, adoption,
and abortion, those ramifications of each decision and the choices
and resources available to those choosing parenting and adoption. We
are not advocating for abortion, we never do, but we
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want abortion minded people to come to us so they
really think through the consequences of making that choice.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
So basically, you won't You guys don't perform abortions or
refer for abortions, but you provide information, educational information on
what an abortion actually is to the woman. Yes, in
addition to adoption and parenting, as well information on those
as well.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Okay, right, so people may be confused when they see
those three. But what we're what we're trying to do
is target women who need us. So if somebody's thinking
they should have an abortion, we want to talk with them.
We want to talk to them about why that choice
is a permanent choice and the ramifications of that choice.
But if they chose parenting adoption, how we could help
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with those and how happiness and love come from those choices.
The other one not so much. But we have trained
counselors that talk about all those those different choices in
front of a pregnant woman who's maybe not expecting to
be pregnant or not wanting to be.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, so that the the aren't they don't feel pressure
to only choose one, like only choose abortion, or that
they that they know that there's help and people who care,
and that yeah, they don't stand alone.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
You know, I see.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Sorry, go ahead, Oh no, you go, Tara.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I was just gonna say, like, we have women that
come to us, but then they have another baby and
we still help them. They become part of our family,
so we care for them as long as they need us.
We've had baby showers for women that rival my friend's
baby showers, you know, so people really come out to
support the women. And we've adopted a baby out for
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our mother and to a loving family that was yearning
for a child. So we've been through the stages, all
all of these choices with the women that we work with.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, can we go back to the website. I noticed
something interesting at the top.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I see counseling and testimonials.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Maybe counseling. Let's click on that.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Here's kind of what Jason was talking about. We have
some videos here. Oh, let people see what the baby
is doing at so many weeks gestation, so twelve weeks
what's going on and the baby, what organs are being formed?
What's happening for development?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Wow? Which one is that?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Twelve weeks pregnant? Can we is that video playable in?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It should be on our site yet?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Oh is this a ultrasound?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
What the baby's doing? It's clenching because or her fists suckling.
To show that even at that young age, which is
a common age for a fortune, that the baby is
fully formed and just getting bigger, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Exactly, everything's there to grow into you know the adults
that they will become later down the road.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, they should be protected.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So those videos from as you can see the Endowment
for Human Development and there are a bunch of them,
so we have a link there we can see other
ages view more videos.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
This is that in the mouth?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Whoa ye, the tongue of the baby at fourteen weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Wow, I wonder what they're tasting.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
So, Tara, I have a question for you just to
regarding I know you you kind of talked in the
beginning about how Pennicook got started and you know how
there was a need with plan Parenthood in Manchester right there,
you know, to start this pregnancy resource center. So it's
wondering if you could share of, you know, any specific
stories that you can think of of you know, why
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it's been such a benefit to women to be so
close to planned parenthood and being there as an option
for them when they feel like they're in a time
of crisis or in a time of yeah, just a
time of need, being so close to plant parenthood and
how that's been beneficial for you guys and the woman.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well, it is true that some people go into that
clinic without wanting to, So maybe someone's pressuring them. It's
sometimes their own mother. Unfortunately, you know that's happened, that's
we've witnessed that. So their own mother, if they're young,
sometimes a husband, a boyfriend, people crying, not wanting to
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go in. Then there's people standing there saying, well, why
don't you talk to us for a few minutes. You know,
we can help you. You're pregnant, we can help you.
Whatever it is will help you. It doesn't matter how
big the problem is, how small the problem is. We're
here for you. We care. So strangers standing there on
the sidewalk sometimes it gives pause, whether it's the person
who's pregnant or the person who's pressuring the pregnant woman
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to go in there, to give pause to like, well,
this must be pretty important if these people are willing
to stand out here rain or shine or snowstorm or
zero degree temperature. So it really is the last stop
for a woman who's pregnant to change their mind. And
if there's a helping hand right there, I'm willing to
walk up the street with you and talk to you
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and tell you they care and they're there for you,
not just the baby, but also for the person there
There's been a lot of miracles that have happened because
of our location and just the fact that we exist.
One is an older story, but I have to tell
you because it's just it literally gives me goose bumps
every time I tell the story. And our director, Catherine Kelly,
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was standing out on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade
before it was overturned. I think the temperature was zero
degrees that morning, and a woman came and she was
a young woman, teenager. She only spoke Brazilian Portuguese, and
she was dropped off by a taxi ride share kind
of service and she saw Kathy standing out there alone
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and couldn't speak English, but basically indicated she didn't want
to go in. Kathy called someone she knew who spoke Portuguese,
and she waited and they walked up to the pregnancy
center and the woman who translated for her that the
whole story, and the woman was able to ascertain that
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this young pregnant mother didn't have any family here. She
came in to the country and was just didn't have
a lot of resources. So what happened was this woman
took her and for her home and helped her along
the way, and she's really she and her baby are
part of this family now, and it was just the
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goodness of the translator's heart that opened her home to them,
both the mother and child. So it was something we
could never have imagined when Kathy made that phone call
to just translate, that this young woman and her baby
would become a part of the translator's family.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
That's amazing. It's a beautiful story.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Things just happen the way God intended because people were
there at the right time and willing to learn to
help a hand.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So really loving her neighbor as herself.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, absolutely beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
But I can see why that gives you goose bumps
every time you tell it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
It's kind of like one of those things like in
the moment where you're like, I'm sure you know, Kathy,
when this girl walked up to her and didn't speak English,
she's probably like like, oh, man, Like I mean, I
least I don't know, at least I would be like,
oh my gosh, like what do I do? But like
the fact that she got on her feet and she
was able to like had a friend that she could call.
That's about Portuguese like that's that's amazing, so really thank
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you for sharing.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's also And we had a beautiful baby shower for her.
All kinds of volunteers and people from the community, the
pro league community came together to shower her with love.
And I'll never forget when she asked to speak to
Kathy alone at the shower in front and pulled her aside,
and later she told us that she says it's all
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because of her, that her life has been her life
and the baby's life has been saved. It was beautiful,
very emotional.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Yeah, emotional.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Tara. Would you like to share about safe havens and
any updates in New Hampshire about that?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I would thank you, Cindy. It's been a lot. There's
been a lot going on for safe havens in the
news you've heard in the past few weeks. It's very exciting,
all great news. As you know, last year the safe
haven law in New Hampshire, which has been in place
for more than twenty years, was expanded with the support
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of the pro life community, so that babies can now
be completely anonymously surrendered up to sixty one days of age.
So not only did it expand the age of infants
able to be surrendered, but also kept any mother or
father from being criminally charged for any offense they might
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be at risk for doing so, so it's an anonymous surrender.
Then the parents can walk away. So that's beautiful. And
since safe Haven Law, the Safe Heaven Law has been
in place in New Hampshire, all police stations, fire stations
and hospitals are inherently safe haven so that means twenty
four to seven you can walk into any of those
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locations and hand over a baby anonymously up to sixty
one days of age now, so that has not changed,
but I do want people to understand that that is
what a safe haven is. It's a place that's staffed.
You have to hand over the baby to someone, you
can't just leave the baby. So a lot of churches
have come out as safe haven locations as well and
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created signs so that people will know that between these
hours and days of the week you could surrender a
baby there as well. So our church in Manchester on
Canal Street has just been doing a lot of publicity
on WMIR Union Leader Manchester inklink telling that story that
they are a safe haven. Saint Joseph Cathedral is also
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a safe haven. They have a sign up so that
you can see the hours when the rectory office is open.
That's been there for over a year. That's on loll
and Pine Streets in Manchester, not far from our pregnancy center.
And also the pregnancy center is a safe haven. We
don't have a sign yet, but as long as the
place is open and there's an adult to take the baby.
So it's really important for people to know what a
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safe haven is and that it's anonymous surrender and nothing
will happen to you for doing so, for handing over
a child. And also the Penticook Pregnancy Center is working
in conjunction with the Manchester Fire Department, the City of
Manchester and Father Jason from Saint Joseph Cathedral has helped
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us get all these meetings. Ever since Baby Grace, the
tragedy of Baby Grace happening has really brought this need
for safe haven's to the forefront. So we are in
negotiations now with a safe Haven baby box company in
Indiana to bring a safe haven box to Manchester at
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the Central fire Station. And this is something that we're
in negotiations now to do and we're really excited and
Penticook Pregnancy Center is paying for the cost of the
box and the maintenance of it, so we are agreeing
to that, and we're just trying to get all of
the dots i's dotted and teas crossed and all the
things done so that we can really do a big
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rollout in the news and tell everyone about it. There
is a requirement for the Safe Haven Baby Box to
not do publicity about it until the box is installed
and tested because in other states there have been issues
where in one particular case, a woman thought that the
baby box was already installed because of pre installation publicity
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and she went to surrender her baby and it wasn't
there yet, So we don't want that to happen in Manchester.
So since the negotiations were approved at an Aldermanic committee
meeting a couple of weeks ago, this did make the news,
so we just want I just want to acknowledge it
and let you know it is negotiations. We're hoping to
get this done in the next couple months and we'll
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be letting everyone know all about it and doing a
ton of press about this great news.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So it will be at a central fire station in Manchester.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, because that's staff twenty four to seven at all times,
even during a fire. So, like I mentioned early, a
safe haven location typically is staff twenty four seven, but
doesn't have to be like these churches that have the
signs with the actual hours that they're staffed. But a
baby box has to have be out of fire station
only that's staff twenty four seven.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And how can our listeners support this, help sponsor this.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
New bo baby Well, thanks to our generous donors at
the Penticook Pregnancy Center, we have the funds to pay
for the box and the installation all the things that
go with that, but we will have to do publicity,
so billboards and all those things. So if anyone wants
to donate to the Penticook Pregnancy Center, we will use
funds collected from now on in the next few months
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to pay for all the marketing and publicity so that
it gets out into the community that this box exists,
so that you can put your child safely in a
box that has a camera in it that will set
off an alarm, it will close from the outside and
you can walk away. So that's something that we would
love to get donations for and we'll share that once
we do the publicity for the box, but we have
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a donation online option on our website.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, and a trained responsible firefighter may be.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
The first person.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
To receive the baby from the baby box.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
That's one of ye you.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I was sorry, no, I was just going to say
thank you so much for clarifying, you know, just obviously
sometimes when there's publicity and things in the news, it
can be a little confusing. So I think that you
definitely really gave a good clear explanation of the difference
between a safe haven and then the baby boxes.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
So yeah, thank you. I'm happy to and we will
have the first box north of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
So yeah, that's incredible, all right, everybody, anybody Pensvania.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
We're happy where. We can't wait to get this done,
so more to come for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well, you're also a board member for Saint Johanna's Place.
Could you share a little bit about Saint Johanna's Place
with our listeners.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Saint John's Place was started, well, the ideas for it
started in twenty seventeen and opened six years ago in
southern New Hampshire. A maternity home for a women and
their children who need a place to stay. It typically
is a one year stay transitional housing, and it really
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provides wrap around services to the residents and their children,
anything that you can imagine, just kind of it's like
the next step up from the Pregnancy Center, and that's
why I wanted to be involved. Also in Saint Johanna's Place,
we are helping women literally on the street or meeting
them if they just come in to visit us. But
we don't have a place for women to go. If
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they need housing, we always refer them and happily we
referred someone who came to us looking for housing more
than about two years ago, and she and her baby
did move into Saint Johanna's Place. So it's exactly the
kind of next level service we were looking for as
a partner for the Pregnancy Center. So at Saint Johanna's Place,
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women can live there with their children. As I mentioned,
we have social workers a social worker on staff. They
have very just personalized, individualized resources depending on what the
woman and her children need, whether it's one child or
two children, children children, whatever they do need. Sometimes that
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might be dental work for a child, or help with
schooling or transportation. How can we train a mother for
a career. She might be interested in a certain career
but never finished her schooling in that, how can we
connect her with that? And then all so, how can
we help her find a job when she has that
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skill set. So it really is what the woman needs,
we make sure she has in So it really is
a unique place. I've never seen anything like it. It's
amazing the work that goes on there. And it's interesting
to have people from different backgrounds living in one home.
It is a Catholic home, so there are Catholic elements
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to the home. There's prayer time, there's mass time, there's teaching,
there's exploring your faith, learning about the faith. That doesn't
mean you have to become Catholic to live there, but
that's just the cadence and structure of the day. So
a lot of people have become Catholic or have baptized
their babies in the church. And we have a spiritual advisor,
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Father Vaughan de Roja, so he helps us as a
board and as a home and the structure of living
in a home that's God centered is just quite amazing.
And there are a lot of miracles that happen there too.
So it really is a blessing. So many mothers leave
us saying teams their lives or they felt like they're
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part of a family for the first time, even if
it's different women from different backgrounds all living together in
one house. It's not always perfect, but for the most part,
they're learning to engage with others, live in community and
just really put themselves on the path they want to
be with their child.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
That's pretible.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yeah, and all services there are free, so if a
woman is in need of staying there, she can basically
access to all the services.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Like staying there and getting all the career support and
all that all for free. Yes, yes, wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I've listened to first hand stories of mothers who who
lived lived at Saint John's Place, and it's incredible. They
the community of love there, the the support, the just safety,
the the help, the just a safe, loving place to
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raise their child and to be around other other women
and like who are also you know, just it sounds
like just a safe harbor in a stormy world.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
It truly is it. Really. Let's something someone said once
at a board meeting. It really like touched my heart
because it was so true and I never had thought
about it. But Saint John's Place, they said, gives women
time to rest. Like you stop whatever is going on,
whatever the crises are, or whatever is the turmoil, and
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you come here and it's rest, it's it's it's away
from that and not just resting. Like we expect you
to like figure out what you're going to do to
sustain your life and to move forward, but not right away.
You come in, you pause, you stop. It's like a
regrouping for your whole life. Reset.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
Really yeah, that reminds me of Psalm twenty three when
you talk about rest. That the Lord is my shepherd,
and I shall not want. The Lord is my shepherd,
I shall not want. He makes me lie down in
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green pastures. He leads me besides still waters. He restores
my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness. For
his namesake.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow
of death, I will fear no evil for you or
with me. You're rod in your staff. They comfort me.
You prepare a table before me in the presence of
my enemies. You anoint my head with oil. Houp overflows.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days
of my life, and I shall dwell in the House
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of the Lord forever.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Amen.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Well, it's kind of amazing that it's just so funny.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
It's like the Lord new but I get I have
the Bible app on my phone and I actually had
a I had prepared a different.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Bible verse for our episode today. But every day, every.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Day I get like a little like pop up of
a Bible verse from the Bible app, and today's is
actually literally it just says you can see it, but
it just it literally says rest, and it's yeah, and
it's Matthew eleven twenty eight. Come to me, all of
you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I
will give you rest. So I just think that that's
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really timely to what you just said.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
And it's so true.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
It's amazing, so interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh, also, Terra quickly, how can people like women find
Saint Johanna's Place or get in touch if they want
to be connected?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, So our phone number is five to one eight
four four zero. Our website is Saint Johanna's Place dot org,
and our Facebook page is also at Saint Johanna's Place.
And some of you obviously may already know this, but
Saint Jianna was an Italian doctor who had four children.
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On her fourth pregnancy, she learned she had cancer, and
in order not to risk the life of her child,
she chose not to be treated for that cancer, and
she died shortly after giving birth to that fourth child.
So she is a saint in the Catholic Church, and
that is who the house is named after. So it's
Saint g I A N N A.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Wow. I hope it thrives for a long, long, long.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Time, long long time.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Thank you to other New Hampshire.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Well, well, we both got to share our Bible verses.
So Kara, do you have a Bible verse to share
with our listeners this week?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I do have minds also from Matthew chapter nineteen, verse fourteen.
And it sounds obvious, but it's not really. Let the
children come to me and do not prevent them. But
the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to such as these. Now
we're all children of God. So even though it's literally
about children, and that's what we want everyone to do,
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bring the children trust and we will help you no
matter what the problem is. We want to recognize that
everyone who comes to us as a child of God,
including ourselves, and how can we serve him the best
way we can and how can we help them find
their way? So I love that verse for both reasons.
That's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah, Like not only that we don't you don't just
care about you know, like even in the work that
you guys do at Pinnacook and Saint Gianna's, you don't
just care about the baby. You care about the woman too,
and the family that's experiencing hardship, and they're a child
of God too.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
So yeah, and I hope that our listeners can can
truly understand.
Speaker 8 (37:26):
That that even if we are treated like adults, like
oh you're eighteen, you're an adult, but our whole lives
we are the children of that, We are the children
of God, that God sees us as you know, He's
our father.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
And so immercifully so so that like nothing you do
is like I feel like there's so much shame around
all of this. Right, if someone's pregnant and didn't mean
to be, and but God loves you no matter what.
It doesn't matter what you did. He's going to take
care of you because you are his child. So I
just think He's not just Jesus, wasn't just speaking to
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the children. He was also speaking to the disciples. And
when he.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Said that, you know, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Okay. Well, Tara,
thank you so much for you know, what you do
and what you pour your life into helping so many,
so many families across New Hampshire, and God bless you.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Well, thank you. I'm just a little part of it.
I feel like the people that are in Saint John's Place,
working in the home, volunteering in the home, and you know,
the prayer volunteers and all the volunteers we have at
Penica Pertzy Center are really doing God's worth their his
hands and feet. And I jump in when I can
and finding things. My kids always make fun of me,
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they say, don't get street trash. But if there's ever
something in my neighborhood or somewhere I'm driving around and
I see this amazing new thing someone's giving away, like
a you know, a baby toy or you know, stroller
or something that could be used again, I clean it
up and throw it in my trunk and we go back.
We always try to give new or gently use things
to our clients, and I'm always looking driving around and
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going to find anything. So just little ways that I
can help, but I try to when I can. Besides
the board work wonderful.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Wow, so everybody put out your street trash will drive
around and try to find it her new ministry.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Like, oh no, here's goes. I was out there with
a friend of mine and she is so great. Her
her brother or her cousin actually is a teacher in
Manchester Public schools and she always helps connect their families
with beds or mattresses and things they need, and oftentimes
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I'm able to offer them the Penticook Pregnancy Center Facebook page.
So sometimes we'll be driving around with a minivan full
of mattresses and boxes and funny things. But it really helps.
You know, we're in the blankedn apartments once and she's like,
who needs books? Who needs a bat? Who's like, we're
out there just like helping these families bring them in.
So it's a lot of people that are friends of us,
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ours in the community and the pregnancy center that help
us connect families with just things that they need that
people are throwing out or donating.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
So yeah, yeah, if people do have new or gently
used like baby items or yes, they can bring them
to Pinicook Pregnancy Center.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yes, the only thing we can't take are used car
seats and use breast pumps. But other than that, if
you could contact us or reach out to us on
the Facebook page on messenger, all right back to you
and coordinate drop off or picked up, because it's really
been a blessing. Formula too. Sometimes there's unopened formula cans
that people can can't use for their babies or they
didn't work for them, and if they're not expired, we
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can pass them along. So we do a lot of
kind of importing and exporting, as I like to say,
of like great things that people don't need anymore, that
shouldn't go in the trash, but that we can bless
another family with. Like I found an almost new in
my neighborhood and almost new bassinet. It didn't even look
like it had been used, and it was out the
day before garbage day and I snagged it. But for
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everything safe, we check everything clean. Everything I'm not talking
about you know, crazy stuff. It has to be in
good shape. But we're happy to pass things along, so
don't throw it out call us.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, all right, so.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Well, thank you, Tara, thank you for all the amazing
work that you're doing and yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
You can pray for Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I would love
to dear having me Father, thank you so much for
your love of God. For that or God, you are
a shepherd.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
You lead us.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Besides still Waters, I pray for still waters and peace
for all mothers and families and children across New Hampshire,
that they will find rest for their souls and rest
for their their bodies and rest Lord, and and hope God,
through Pinnicook Pregnancy Center and through Saint John's Place, that
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that your love will continue to be poured out to
these families and provide everything they need and everything that
they're searching for most most desperately. God, thank you so
much for all the people who pray and support Pinicicook
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Pregnancy Center and Saint John's Place and help continue this
good work. Lord, Bless them and bless everyone who comes
into these doors Lord to find to find hope in You.
In Jesus name, we pray, Amen.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Man, Thank you so much, beautiful, thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Okay, well, wow, we are so honored and blessed to
just hear from you today.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
And I hope that everything.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
You said will reach whoever needs to hear, needs help
and needs to hear it in the coming coming days.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Thank you. I will be sure to share that on
our Champion. We can amplify the message and just let
women know that we're there for them and we care,
we don't judge, We're here to help them.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
All right, It's wonderful. That's uh.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
That's today's episode.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Everybody, Kinnicook Pregnancy Center, Saint Johanna's Place, and Terror Bishop.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
Thank you, thanks for joining everyone. We'll see you next week.
All right, bye, Thanks Narah.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
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Welcome to ever Living Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's a podcast where.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We every week we aim to share the stories and
voices of those who work and pray to value life
in New England and beyond.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Welcome to ever Living.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm we are your ever Living hosts Cindy.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Temporarily.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yes, all right, so welcome Jason to the Ever Living Podcast.
What what do you have to share with our listeners
this week?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well, I just wanted to give a quick update. You
may or may not have seen that the Governor of
New Hampshire, Kelly Ayot, has vetoed HB sixty sixty seven.
So if you're not aware of HB six sixty seven, uh,
it's a it's a It's something that's in place in
a lot of other states where it requires showing a
short video that is not really advocacy, but just basic
(01:04):
biology of fetal development. And if you get a chance
at home, just go on YouTube and type in baby Olivia.
And the reason I'm really a huge fan of that
is because I think a lot of people don't understand
where we all come from. How we have organs even
at eight weeks, how you have fingerprints at nine weeks,
you have a heart beating a six weeks and just
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to be good members of society. This is really require knowledge,
just because people are going to be making all sorts
of decisions later, who they vote for, even pregnancy, and
equipping them with the knowledge is I think should be
the basics and.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
To understand how they grew in the womb.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, and how we all grew absolutely. So there were
two representatives who were really instrumental in this. They were
Representative John Seller and Glenn Cordelli, and they were able
to make the changes that were needed and work with
the legislature to get this past both houses, this House
in the Senate of the New Hampshire Legislature. And you're
(02:07):
hoping and praying that the that they'll override the governor's veto,
but it's going to be very difficult.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
It's really too bad because it's really just common sense
knowledge that really should already be being taught in you know,
public school curriculum that exactly like how we how we
are formed.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
In the womb.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
And it's just it's educational, it's science, it's biology, And
I agree with you, it's so important that for any
decision that people are making later in life that they
know this information.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
So yeah, no, definitely with you that it.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Should be should be hopefully hopefully the House of you know,
representatives in the Senate that they veto it because that's
or that they override it, because that's that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, So if your viewers want to do something, they
can call up their representatives and hopefully we can get
as many on board.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, I hope that Governor Ayat has seen videos, educational
videos like Baby Olivia and can see.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The good value in educating.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
The youth and it's not not blocking good education and
scientific evidence and all that.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
So that sometimes people talk about it as like propaganda,
like it's like some sort of sort of pro life propaganda,
but that's just simply not true. And and again, yeah,
I encourage people to go watch the Baby Olivia video
because it's literally just talking about the actual fetal development markers.
It's not any form of propaganda. It's science.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
And Jessica, I was just gonna I was going to
say literally just that, and you know, you're on the
right side of this issue when basic when the other
side considers basic science to be against them and to
be propaganda. So where that's how we know, I think
we're on the right side.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, it probably is propaganda to block information and to
like like book burning essentially is a form of propaganda.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So we want to make information available.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, and how many people would choose life if they
weren't told that it's just a clump of cells that
they were told Actually, this is a small human being
who has a heartbeat, who has you know, can feel
pain at a certain point, and all sorts of other
things that we have. And yeah, so that's that's why
(04:36):
we do it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
All right, thanks, thanks for having sharing, Jason, Yeah, coming
on the pod.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So Jessica, what does your shirt say today?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yes, so it says no woman stands alone. And also
it has the website standing with You dot org. And
this has a shirt by the umbrella organization, the Pro
Life Generation, which Students for Life of America is underneath.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
That's the organization I work for.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
And essentially this website we're just advertising, you know, Yes,
we don't want any woman to stand alone. But Standing
with You dot org is a website that women can
go to if they're facing an unplanned pregnancy or they
need parenting resources wherever they are in the country, and
they can put in their zip code and it will
populate pregnancy resources and parenting resources in whatever area they
(05:30):
live in. And a lot of resources on there include
like pregnancy resource centers obviously that provide lots of material
goods and ultrasounds and pregnancy tests and counseling things like that.
But there's also other resources on there as well. I've
seen like career help, so like like career centers if
a woman needs help getting a job. I also spoke
(05:52):
actually spoke with somebody yesterday who's a pro life duela
in uses and we're going to try to get her
added to the web site for the Springfield, Massachusetts area
because she's looking to reach women in need. So yeah,
it's standing with you dot org and really just it's
just an initiative to get people connected to the resources
(06:13):
that they need and know that they're not alone when
they're facing an UNPI pregnancy or pregnancy in general.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Wow, that's amazing. Well, an excellent pregnancy resource center that
we have in New Hampshire in Manchester is Pennacook Pregnancy
Center And also another resource is a home for mothers
and their children called Saint Johnna's Place. And today we
(06:42):
have a very special guest on our podcast. She is
a board member for both places, Pennacook Pregnancy Center and
Saint Johna's Place. Let's welcome Tara Bishop to Ever Living Podcast.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Welcome Tara, thank you for having me, Thank you for
being here.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, we're so excited to welcome you to our show.
But yeah, how's your how's your summer been going.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh, it's been busy, lots of travel. I have four children,
and I have the Nationals Dance competition and just travel
for work. So I'm hoping to relax a little bit
the rest of this month, get a little outdoor time.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I hope.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
I hope that you're gonna have that too.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I feel like summer is always interesting groups for some people,
I feel like it's like super RESTful, there's nothing going on,
and then other people it's like travel it here, travel there.
But that's yeah, I hope. I'm hoping you can get
more some time to rest.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So, Okay, Well, let's learn more about more about Panicook
Pregnancy Center. Tara, can you describe describe picnic Coook Pregnancy
Center to our listeners?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Sure, I'd love to. Panicook Pregnancy Center is named for
the street it's actually at the top of which is
on the same street as Planned Parenthood in Manchester. It
all started over fifteen years ago when prayer volunteers were
looking to be able to refer people from Planned Parenthood
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to a safe place to talk and reflect and maybe
change their minds, but also get resources if they want
to if they chose to keep their babies. So these
prayer volunteers would stand outside Planned Parenthood on Surgical Abortion Day,
which has changed days of the week since then, but
in particular it is now on Wednesdays, so they would
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stand there pray for people going in, and some sidewalk
counselors would offer help and resources. After doing that for
many years, the need to have a pregnancy resource center
right in the neighborhood to be able to walk to
was clear. So the director, Catherine Kelly, started Penticook Pregnancy
Center in September of twenty thirteen and I am found
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board member and continue to serve on the board with
the group of volunteers. When we are a one hundred
percent all volunteer, one hundred percent donation based center, so
everything we do is free to the people that visit us,
and everything we do is volunteer based. We are blessed
to have generous donors that can remember us consistently that
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we're able to do this work. So we are open
Monday to Thursdays ten am to four pm, and we
offer free pregnancy tests, diapers, wipes, referrals to healthcare organizations,
referrals to childcare, referrals for transportation, referrals to a mistake.
Health sometimes different areas that people have for need. So
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many times people have abortions because they maybe can't afford something,
or can't find an apartment or can't get a car,
or they don't know what to do. So that's sometimes
why and would turn to abortions. So we try to
take away any barrier that might be happening for that
particular woman or family, and so we have counseling and
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everything we do is whatever the person needs to come
to us, So truly it depends on the client and
the day and what's going on. So we also provide
clothing up to five T for children because siblings need
things too, So yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
That's wonderful. It's glad to hear you guys gifts up
for siblings as well. That's a definitely a supportive way
to you know, to support you know, families in need.
And I think that shows like, yeah, you really are
willing to help people even after they have their baby.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Right in the south of the baby. We do truly
care for the mothers and the families and the siblings.
We have books, we have baby items, strollers, car seats,
you name it. We we do donate a lot of
car seats because as you know, you're not allowed to
leave the hospital if you have a newborn without a
new car seat, so we make sure women have that too.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Wow, Terra.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So how can people contact Pennicook Pregnancy Center or visit.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Sure You Care? Sure thank you. We are located at
six fifty seven B Chestnut Street, top of Pennacook Street
in Manchester. It's a big green building. We have a
purple door so that it stands out from the other
businesses on our block. It's a block long building. We're
open Mondays, as I mentioned Mondays through Thursdays ten am
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to four pm. But you can call any time like
we do take messages from voicemail but also on Facebook.
So our Facebook page is at NH Pregnancy Help and
our phone number is six oh three two oh six
five three o six, and our website is Penticook pregnancy
(11:57):
dot org.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Okay, let's can we take a look at the website.
Let's look at it now. Let's go to Yeah, let's
go to Penticook pregnancy dot org. Check it out. Yeah,
oh nice. New Hampshire is a safe haven state.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yes, we have a little pop up there to kind
of tell people about the latest update to the Safe.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Haven parents Okay, yep, said sixty one days yep of
safe Yeah, safe Haven. Okay, so this is the front page.
If you're pregnant, you don't have to go through it alone.
Very awesome. Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Now three and the three choices women have right, parenting, adoption,
and abortion, those ramifications of each decision and the choices
and resources available to those choosing parenting and adoption. We
are not advocating for abortion, we never do, but we
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want abortion minded people to come to us so they
really think through the consequences of making that choice.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
So basically, you won't You guys don't perform abortions or
refer for abortions, but you provide information, educational information on
what an abortion actually is to the woman. Yes, in
addition to adoption and parenting, as well information on those
as well.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Okay, right, so people may be confused when they see
those three. But what we're what we're trying to do
is target women who need us. So if somebody's thinking
they should have an abortion, we want to talk with them.
We want to talk to them about why that choice
is a permanent choice and the ramifications of that choice.
But if they chose parenting adoption, how we could help
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with those and how happiness and love come from those choices.
The other one not so much. But we have trained
counselors that talk about all those those different choices in
front of a pregnant woman who's maybe not expecting to
be pregnant or not wanting to be.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, so that the the aren't they don't feel pressure
to only choose one, like only choose abortion, or that
they that they know that there's help and people who care,
and that yeah, they don't stand alone.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
You know, I see.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Sorry, go ahead, Oh no, you go, Tara.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I was just gonna say, like, we have women that
come to us, but then they have another baby and
we still help them. They become part of our family,
so we care for them as long as they need us.
We've had baby showers for women that rival my friend's
baby showers, you know, so people really come out to
support the women. And we've adopted a baby out for
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our mother and to a loving family that was yearning
for a child. So we've been through the stages, all
all of these choices with the women that we work with.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, can we go back to the website. I noticed
something interesting at the top.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I see counseling and testimonials.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Maybe counseling. Let's click on that.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Here's kind of what Jason was talking about. We have
some videos here. Oh, let people see what the baby
is doing at so many weeks gestation, so twelve weeks
what's going on and the baby, what organs are being formed?
What's happening for development?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Wow? Which one is that?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Twelve weeks pregnant? Can we is that video playable in?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It should be on our site yet?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Oh is this a ultrasound?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
What the baby's doing? It's clenching because or her fists suckling.
To show that even at that young age, which is
a common age for a fortune, that the baby is
fully formed and just getting bigger, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Exactly, everything's there to grow into you know the adults
that they will become later down the road.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, they should be protected.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So those videos from as you can see the Endowment
for Human Development and there are a bunch of them,
so we have a link there we can see other
ages view more videos.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
This is that in the mouth?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Whoa ye, the tongue of the baby at fourteen weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Wow, I wonder what they're tasting.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
So, Tara, I have a question for you just to
regarding I know you you kind of talked in the
beginning about how Pennicook got started and you know how
there was a need with plan Parenthood in Manchester right there,
you know, to start this pregnancy resource center. So it's
wondering if you could share of, you know, any specific
stories that you can think of of you know, why
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it's been such a benefit to women to be so
close to planned parenthood and being there as an option
for them when they feel like they're in a time
of crisis or in a time of yeah, just a
time of need, being so close to plant parenthood and
how that's been beneficial for you guys and the woman.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well, it is true that some people go into that
clinic without wanting to, So maybe someone's pressuring them. It's
sometimes their own mother. Unfortunately, you know that's happened, that's
we've witnessed that. So their own mother, if they're young,
sometimes a husband, a boyfriend, people crying, not wanting to
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go in. Then there's people standing there saying, well, why
don't you talk to us for a few minutes. You know,
we can help you. You're pregnant, we can help you.
Whatever it is will help you. It doesn't matter how
big the problem is, how small the problem is. We're
here for you. We care. So strangers standing there on
the sidewalk sometimes it gives pause, whether it's the person
who's pregnant or the person who's pressuring the pregnant woman
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to go in there, to give pause to like, well,
this must be pretty important if these people are willing
to stand out here rain or shine or snowstorm or
zero degree temperature. So it really is the last stop
for a woman who's pregnant to change their mind. And
if there's a helping hand right there, I'm willing to
walk up the street with you and talk to you
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and tell you they care and they're there for you,
not just the baby, but also for the person there
There's been a lot of miracles that have happened because
of our location and just the fact that we exist.
One is an older story, but I have to tell
you because it's just it literally gives me goose bumps
every time I tell the story. And our director, Catherine Kelly,
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was standing out on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade
before it was overturned. I think the temperature was zero
degrees that morning, and a woman came and she was
a young woman, teenager. She only spoke Brazilian Portuguese, and
she was dropped off by a taxi ride share kind
of service and she saw Kathy standing out there alone
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and couldn't speak English, but basically indicated she didn't want
to go in. Kathy called someone she knew who spoke Portuguese,
and she waited and they walked up to the pregnancy
center and the woman who translated for her that the
whole story, and the woman was able to ascertain that
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this young pregnant mother didn't have any family here. She
came in to the country and was just didn't have
a lot of resources. So what happened was this woman
took her and for her home and helped her along
the way, and she's really she and her baby are
part of this family now, and it was just the
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goodness of the translator's heart that opened her home to them,
both the mother and child. So it was something we
could never have imagined when Kathy made that phone call
to just translate, that this young woman and her baby
would become a part of the translator's family.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
That's amazing. It's a beautiful story.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Things just happen the way God intended because people were
there at the right time and willing to learn to
help a hand.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So really loving her neighbor as herself.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, absolutely beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
But I can see why that gives you goose bumps
every time you tell it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
It's kind of like one of those things like in
the moment where you're like, I'm sure you know, Kathy,
when this girl walked up to her and didn't speak English,
she's probably like like, oh, man, Like I mean, I
least I don't know, at least I would be like,
oh my gosh, like what do I do? But like
the fact that she got on her feet and she
was able to like had a friend that she could call.
That's about Portuguese like that's that's amazing, so really thank
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you for sharing.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's also And we had a beautiful baby shower for her.
All kinds of volunteers and people from the community, the
pro league community came together to shower her with love.
And I'll never forget when she asked to speak to
Kathy alone at the shower in front and pulled her aside,
and later she told us that she says it's all
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because of her, that her life has been her life
and the baby's life has been saved. It was beautiful,
very emotional.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Yeah, emotional.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Tara. Would you like to share about safe havens and
any updates in New Hampshire about that?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I would thank you, Cindy. It's been a lot. There's
been a lot going on for safe havens in the
news you've heard in the past few weeks. It's very exciting,
all great news. As you know, last year the safe
haven law in New Hampshire, which has been in place
for more than twenty years, was expanded with the support
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of the pro life community, so that babies can now
be completely anonymously surrendered up to sixty one days of age.
So not only did it expand the age of infants
able to be surrendered, but also kept any mother or
father from being criminally charged for any offense they might
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be at risk for doing so, so it's an anonymous surrender.
Then the parents can walk away. So that's beautiful. And
since safe Haven Law, the Safe Heaven Law has been
in place in New Hampshire, all police stations, fire stations
and hospitals are inherently safe haven so that means twenty
four to seven you can walk into any of those
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locations and hand over a baby anonymously up to sixty
one days of age now, so that has not changed,
but I do want people to understand that that is
what a safe haven is. It's a place that's staffed.
You have to hand over the baby to someone, you
can't just leave the baby. So a lot of churches
have come out as safe haven locations as well and
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created signs so that people will know that between these
hours and days of the week you could surrender a
baby there as well. So our church in Manchester on
Canal Street has just been doing a lot of publicity
on WMIR Union Leader Manchester inklink telling that story that
they are a safe haven. Saint Joseph Cathedral is also
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a safe haven. They have a sign up so that
you can see the hours when the rectory office is open.
That's been there for over a year. That's on loll
and Pine Streets in Manchester, not far from our pregnancy center.
And also the pregnancy center is a safe haven. We
don't have a sign yet, but as long as the
place is open and there's an adult to take the baby.
So it's really important for people to know what a
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safe haven is and that it's anonymous surrender and nothing
will happen to you for doing so, for handing over
a child. And also the Penticook Pregnancy Center is working
in conjunction with the Manchester Fire Department, the City of
Manchester and Father Jason from Saint Joseph Cathedral has helped
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us get all these meetings. Ever since Baby Grace, the
tragedy of Baby Grace happening has really brought this need
for safe haven's to the forefront. So we are in
negotiations now with a safe Haven baby box company in
Indiana to bring a safe haven box to Manchester at
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the Central fire Station. And this is something that we're
in negotiations now to do and we're really excited and
Penticook Pregnancy Center is paying for the cost of the
box and the maintenance of it, so we are agreeing
to that, and we're just trying to get all of
the dots i's dotted and teas crossed and all the
things done so that we can really do a big
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rollout in the news and tell everyone about it. There
is a requirement for the Safe Haven Baby Box to
not do publicity about it until the box is installed
and tested because in other states there have been issues
where in one particular case, a woman thought that the
baby box was already installed because of pre installation publicity
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and she went to surrender her baby and it wasn't
there yet, So we don't want that to happen in Manchester.
So since the negotiations were approved at an Aldermanic committee
meeting a couple of weeks ago, this did make the news,
so we just want I just want to acknowledge it
and let you know it is negotiations. We're hoping to
get this done in the next couple months and we'll
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be letting everyone know all about it and doing a
ton of press about this great news.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So it will be at a central fire station in Manchester.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, because that's staff twenty four to seven at all times,
even during a fire. So, like I mentioned early, a
safe haven location typically is staff twenty four seven, but
doesn't have to be like these churches that have the
signs with the actual hours that they're staffed. But a
baby box has to have be out of fire station
only that's staff twenty four seven.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And how can our listeners support this, help sponsor this.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
New bo baby Well, thanks to our generous donors at
the Penticook Pregnancy Center, we have the funds to pay
for the box and the installation all the things that
go with that, but we will have to do publicity,
so billboards and all those things. So if anyone wants
to donate to the Penticook Pregnancy Center, we will use
funds collected from now on in the next few months
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to pay for all the marketing and publicity so that
it gets out into the community that this box exists,
so that you can put your child safely in a
box that has a camera in it that will set
off an alarm, it will close from the outside and
you can walk away. So that's something that we would
love to get donations for and we'll share that once
we do the publicity for the box, but we have
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a donation online option on our website.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, and a trained responsible firefighter may be.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
The first person.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
To receive the baby from the baby box.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
That's one of ye you.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I was sorry, no, I was just going to say
thank you so much for clarifying, you know, just obviously
sometimes when there's publicity and things in the news, it
can be a little confusing. So I think that you
definitely really gave a good clear explanation of the difference
between a safe haven and then the baby boxes.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
So yeah, thank you. I'm happy to and we will
have the first box north of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
So yeah, that's incredible, all right, everybody, anybody Pensvania.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
We're happy where. We can't wait to get this done,
so more to come for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well, you're also a board member for Saint Johanna's Place.
Could you share a little bit about Saint Johanna's Place
with our listeners.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Saint John's Place was started, well, the ideas for it
started in twenty seventeen and opened six years ago in
southern New Hampshire. A maternity home for a women and
their children who need a place to stay. It typically
is a one year stay transitional housing, and it really
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provides wrap around services to the residents and their children,
anything that you can imagine, just kind of it's like
the next step up from the Pregnancy Center, and that's
why I wanted to be involved. Also in Saint Johanna's Place,
we are helping women literally on the street or meeting
them if they just come in to visit us. But
we don't have a place for women to go. If
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they need housing, we always refer them and happily we
referred someone who came to us looking for housing more
than about two years ago, and she and her baby
did move into Saint Johanna's Place. So it's exactly the
kind of next level service we were looking for as
a partner for the Pregnancy Center. So at Saint Johanna's Place,
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women can live there with their children. As I mentioned,
we have social workers a social worker on staff. They
have very just personalized, individualized resources depending on what the
woman and her children need, whether it's one child or
two children, children children, whatever they do need. Sometimes that
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might be dental work for a child, or help with
schooling or transportation. How can we train a mother for
a career. She might be interested in a certain career
but never finished her schooling in that, how can we
connect her with that? And then all so, how can
we help her find a job when she has that
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skill set. So it really is what the woman needs,
we make sure she has in So it really is
a unique place. I've never seen anything like it. It's
amazing the work that goes on there. And it's interesting
to have people from different backgrounds living in one home.
It is a Catholic home, so there are Catholic elements
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to the home. There's prayer time, there's mass time, there's teaching,
there's exploring your faith, learning about the faith. That doesn't
mean you have to become Catholic to live there, but
that's just the cadence and structure of the day. So
a lot of people have become Catholic or have baptized
their babies in the church. And we have a spiritual advisor,
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Father Vaughan de Roja, so he helps us as a
board and as a home and the structure of living
in a home that's God centered is just quite amazing.
And there are a lot of miracles that happen there too.
So it really is a blessing. So many mothers leave
us saying teams their lives or they felt like they're
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part of a family for the first time, even if
it's different women from different backgrounds all living together in
one house. It's not always perfect, but for the most part,
they're learning to engage with others, live in community and
just really put themselves on the path they want to
be with their child.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
That's pretible.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yeah, and all services there are free, so if a
woman is in need of staying there, she can basically
access to all the services.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Like staying there and getting all the career support and
all that all for free. Yes, yes, wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I've listened to first hand stories of mothers who who
lived lived at Saint John's Place, and it's incredible. They
the community of love there, the the support, the just safety,
the the help, the just a safe, loving place to
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raise their child and to be around other other women
and like who are also you know, just it sounds
like just a safe harbor in a stormy world.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
It truly is it. Really. Let's something someone said once
at a board meeting. It really like touched my heart
because it was so true and I never had thought
about it. But Saint John's Place, they said, gives women
time to rest. Like you stop whatever is going on,
whatever the crises are, or whatever is the turmoil, and
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you come here and it's rest, it's it's it's away
from that and not just resting. Like we expect you
to like figure out what you're going to do to
sustain your life and to move forward, but not right away.
You come in, you pause, you stop. It's like a
regrouping for your whole life. Reset.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
Really yeah, that reminds me of Psalm twenty three when
you talk about rest. That the Lord is my shepherd,
and I shall not want. The Lord is my shepherd,
I shall not want. He makes me lie down in
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green pastures. He leads me besides still waters. He restores
my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness. For
his namesake.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow
of death, I will fear no evil for you or
with me. You're rod in your staff. They comfort me.
You prepare a table before me in the presence of
my enemies. You anoint my head with oil. Houp overflows.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days
of my life, and I shall dwell in the House
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of the Lord forever.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Amen.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Well, it's kind of amazing that it's just so funny.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
It's like the Lord new but I get I have
the Bible app on my phone and I actually had
a I had prepared a different.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Bible verse for our episode today. But every day, every.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Day I get like a little like pop up of
a Bible verse from the Bible app, and today's is
actually literally it just says you can see it, but
it just it literally says rest, and it's yeah, and
it's Matthew eleven twenty eight. Come to me, all of
you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I
will give you rest. So I just think that that's
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really timely to what you just said.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
And it's so true.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
It's amazing, so interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh, also, Terra quickly, how can people like women find
Saint Johanna's Place or get in touch if they want
to be connected?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, So our phone number is five to one eight
four four zero. Our website is Saint Johanna's Place dot org,
and our Facebook page is also at Saint Johanna's Place.
And some of you obviously may already know this, but
Saint Jianna was an Italian doctor who had four children.
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On her fourth pregnancy, she learned she had cancer, and
in order not to risk the life of her child,
she chose not to be treated for that cancer, and
she died shortly after giving birth to that fourth child.
So she is a saint in the Catholic Church, and
that is who the house is named after. So it's
Saint g I A N N A.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Wow. I hope it thrives for a long, long, long.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Time, long long time.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Thank you to other New Hampshire.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Well, well, we both got to share our Bible verses.
So Kara, do you have a Bible verse to share
with our listeners this week?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I do have minds also from Matthew chapter nineteen, verse fourteen.
And it sounds obvious, but it's not really. Let the
children come to me and do not prevent them. But
the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to such as these. Now
we're all children of God. So even though it's literally
about children, and that's what we want everyone to do,
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bring the children trust and we will help you no
matter what the problem is. We want to recognize that
everyone who comes to us as a child of God,
including ourselves, and how can we serve him the best
way we can and how can we help them find
their way? So I love that verse for both reasons.
That's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah, Like not only that we don't you don't just
care about you know, like even in the work that
you guys do at Pinnacook and Saint Gianna's, you don't
just care about the baby. You care about the woman too,
and the family that's experiencing hardship, and they're a child
of God too.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
So yeah, and I hope that our listeners can can
truly understand.
Speaker 8 (37:26):
That that even if we are treated like adults, like
oh you're eighteen, you're an adult, but our whole lives
we are the children of that, We are the children
of God, that God sees us as you know, He's
our father.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
And so immercifully so so that like nothing you do
is like I feel like there's so much shame around
all of this. Right, if someone's pregnant and didn't mean
to be, and but God loves you no matter what.
It doesn't matter what you did. He's going to take
care of you because you are his child. So I
just think He's not just Jesus, wasn't just speaking to
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the children. He was also speaking to the disciples. And
when he.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Said that, you know, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Okay. Well, Tara,
thank you so much for you know, what you do
and what you pour your life into helping so many,
so many families across New Hampshire, and God bless you.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Well, thank you. I'm just a little part of it.
I feel like the people that are in Saint John's Place,
working in the home, volunteering in the home, and you know,
the prayer volunteers and all the volunteers we have at
Penica Pertzy Center are really doing God's worth their his
hands and feet. And I jump in when I can
and finding things. My kids always make fun of me,
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they say, don't get street trash. But if there's ever
something in my neighborhood or somewhere I'm driving around and
I see this amazing new thing someone's giving away, like
a you know, a baby toy or you know, stroller
or something that could be used again, I clean it
up and throw it in my trunk and we go back.
We always try to give new or gently use things
to our clients, and I'm always looking driving around and
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going to find anything. So just little ways that I
can help, but I try to when I can. Besides
the board work wonderful.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Wow, so everybody put out your street trash will drive
around and try to find it her new ministry.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Like, oh no, here's goes. I was out there with
a friend of mine and she is so great. Her
her brother or her cousin actually is a teacher in
Manchester Public schools and she always helps connect their families
with beds or mattresses and things they need, and oftentimes
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I'm able to offer them the Penticook Pregnancy Center Facebook page.
So sometimes we'll be driving around with a minivan full
of mattresses and boxes and funny things. But it really helps.
You know, we're in the blankedn apartments once and she's like,
who needs books? Who needs a bat? Who's like, we're
out there just like helping these families bring them in.
So it's a lot of people that are friends of us,
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ours in the community and the pregnancy center that help
us connect families with just things that they need that
people are throwing out or donating.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
So yeah, yeah, if people do have new or gently
used like baby items or yes, they can bring them
to Pinicook Pregnancy Center.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yes, the only thing we can't take are used car
seats and use breast pumps. But other than that, if
you could contact us or reach out to us on
the Facebook page on messenger, all right back to you
and coordinate drop off or picked up, because it's really
been a blessing. Formula too. Sometimes there's unopened formula cans
that people can can't use for their babies or they
didn't work for them, and if they're not expired, we
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can pass them along. So we do a lot of
kind of importing and exporting, as I like to say,
of like great things that people don't need anymore, that
shouldn't go in the trash, but that we can bless
another family with. Like I found an almost new in
my neighborhood and almost new bassinet. It didn't even look
like it had been used, and it was out the
day before garbage day and I snagged it. But for
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everything safe, we check everything clean. Everything I'm not talking
about you know, crazy stuff. It has to be in
good shape. But we're happy to pass things along, so
don't throw it out call us.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, all right, so.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Well, thank you, Tara, thank you for all the amazing
work that you're doing and yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
You can pray for Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I would love
to dear having me Father, thank you so much for
your love of God. For that or God, you are
a shepherd.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
You lead us.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Besides still Waters, I pray for still waters and peace
for all mothers and families and children across New Hampshire,
that they will find rest for their souls and rest
for their their bodies and rest Lord, and and hope God,
through Pinnicook Pregnancy Center and through Saint John's Place, that
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that your love will continue to be poured out to
these families and provide everything they need and everything that
they're searching for most most desperately. God, thank you so
much for all the people who pray and support Pinicicook
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Pregnancy Center and Saint John's Place and help continue this
good work. Lord, Bless them and bless everyone who comes
into these doors Lord to find to find hope in You.
In Jesus name, we pray, Amen.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Man, Thank you so much, beautiful, thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Okay, well, wow, we are so honored and blessed to
just hear from you today.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
And I hope that everything.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
You said will reach whoever needs to hear, needs help
and needs to hear it in the coming coming days.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Thank you. I will be sure to share that on
our Champion. We can amplify the message and just let
women know that we're there for them and we care,
we don't judge, We're here to help them.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
All right, It's wonderful. That's uh.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
That's today's episode.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Everybody, Kinnicook Pregnancy Center, Saint Johanna's Place, and Terror Bishop.
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