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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Who's due.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
And we're not live yet, so.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Yeah, I got YouTube pulled up from when You're ready.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, it's easier when one person does the YouTube. I think, yeah,
here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm gonna go live on YouTube. Oh fuck, it's that
for me to find in.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Will you get your fucking life sorted out? Man?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
You won't. I finally seen part of your shirt. Oh
it's just to spin your head, and yeah, I see.
All I saw was you spin and I figured it
was that.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, it's interesting because one of the third movies I
brought out was this because there's some there's some interesting
stuff from the the what version is this?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Something went wrong?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You probably got kicked off.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I haven't seen part two. In twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Factory put out two versions of the movie, and the
long Verse version is actually a lot better. But to me,
it gets more into the sort of a psychic element
and shit, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Than does it.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's really an underrated movie, but it's really boring as
shit too, but it's got an interesting factor.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
It's a fire.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's like you just want to see it burn, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
But yeah, but I just I don't know. As far
as underwhelming.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Sequels, it is very underwhelming lives up to the title.
Three is by far better.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
But all right, here.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
We go this tasty tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
What's this saying? Oh it's as good for two step verification.
Oh my god, breast, yes it's me.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Give me time to pour.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
You're unable to complete your request? Please try again? What
the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Red Bubby Burt?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh my god, I guess I got time to check
check the little Facebook.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Then it's all the demons.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, they don't. YouTube doesn't want us doing taro bro.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, here we there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
There's your there's your supernatural element right there.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
All right, we're going live, are we there?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
So shutting up?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, there we go go.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
My day just literally pulled off.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
We are live.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Let's just pulled up.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Welcome to the Evil Never Dies Podcast presents Evil Talk.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Evil Talk.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I guess I'm Intro and I'm Carl Tod joined by everybody.
We got yourselves.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
We've got Greg Boselli from Monsters in the mosh Pit
and other stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, the moshpit's kind of defunct at the moment, so
we're pretty much just going with sights and sounds at
this point. I don't know ship, I mean, I don't
know it'll come back eventually.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
But you're the permanent co host of the Evil Talk now,
so there you go. Hey, you've been named permanent.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I guess we'll wait till some people start getting in here.
I guess. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
But and Natasha left, hurry up, but we got time.
So we got time. Oh ship, So our dead haunted
house tree is now gone, but the woods all over
the Haunted house?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
How would you do? Cut it down?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, and I'll cut it down. But there was this
we got to get rid of the wood, so bred,
I guess you're gonna be burning burning it up. You
said you wanted some of the wood anyway. I don't
what the hell you want to do with it, but
you got a lot. Well, good, what are you gonna
do with it?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I'll burn it up. I'll come down there at two
o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
And get a fire going' talk in the morning.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah. Did you get woke up by the storm last night?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Nope, didn't even know it stormed.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
There are Christine's in here now.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Hey, Christine, I am officially on vacation from work.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well that's cool. I wish I got a vacation.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
No vacations for a Bret.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Nope, I mean I guess I'm technically on it.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
You're technically on vacation for a while.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
You get the whole summer off.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, I mean I still have I have like two
weeks of work I have to I have to do.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Still cards and all that bullshit.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
No, that's all done. I had to have my grades
submitted yesterday. So my grades are all submitted. We had
a blow party to day, played some corn hole on
the boards that the kids made, and I just kind
of hung out. And then, uh, I have to do
like inventory, and I have to do my teacher goals,
and I have a meeting on the six I have
to drive two hours to go to and stay overnight

(05:26):
and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
But it's not like a vacation at this point.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
No, not yet.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Can you hear us, Christine? Or does everybody sound good
and look good or what?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I don't but that look good?

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Gorgeous?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Mm hmm, hey I shave tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh no, I like the better with your beard.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I'm smooth as a baby's ass.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
With I like how Christine answers. Brad asked that question
and she goes, you look great, Natasha, Yeah, fuck you Christine.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
H that made me smart.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Oh that's fine.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
We'll be going to Galveston on Sunday to the beach.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Oh that sounds fun.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Brat, I need to take trash cans out on Tuesday night.
That reminds me. All right, I'll pay you a five dollar.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, I figured i'd come down and knock on the
door and check on lease. Anyway, she's not going at
she no.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
She can't go. We got a visit her though, and
got Halloween. She heard we're doing spooky stuff. She won't.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Are you going to let all them other cats in
the house too? Now?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Halloween won't even go outside anymore. She's so mad.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I know you're saying that.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, how back there you go.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
My dad randomly talked over and then the dogs went ballistic,
and I was like, ah, I said on today, m hm.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh, there's Michelle.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
She's in the group here in here. Now, what's up, Michelle?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I don't like my phone being over on this side?

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Not good?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well, we got our official Evil Never Dies podcast medium
with us tonight.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yes we do.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
And if you watch the review we did on Nosferatu,
she joined us on that.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
And she's gonna be joining us for Dracula two thousand
here one day. Yes, so we'll do that here soon.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's an odd couple of movies, go from Nosferatu to
Dracula two thousand.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Definitely different, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, i'd say so, Well, there's.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
A backstory because Kyle Didner, who drawed.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Butler, was Oh, actually I know who he was, but
I forgot he was in the movie. Is the problem.
I was doing like a count Krabi's top vampire movies,
and I mentioned Dracula two thousand, but at the time
I couldn't remember who was in it because I hadn't
really researched anything. I was just going off the top
of my head. At least when I watch a movie,

(08:12):
I know who's in it, but in this case, no,
So that's the backstory, and Natasha gave me a little
bit of grief. I didn't mean it like that. I
just was just throwing out random vampire movies. Yeah, so
we're going to do a good review on it.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
I just watched a movie with Gerard Butler in it,
just now. That's the one on we just watched as
a family had family movie night. It was How to
Train Your Dragon. Though it's a good Gerard Butler is
a dream. Absolutely he is.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, I knew who he was. I just forgot he
was in the.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Movie God when he came out three hundred when he
kicks that Persian dude down the well. Oh my god,
I think I went. I went six to midnight.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yes Se Kyle doesn't remember him.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Whoa, how Look you're the curse that Gerald Butler's about
to knock out of the chair.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
My goodness, Jesus.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Stool that has wheels. We're running away. I'm just gonna stand.
It's on today. It's been a lot today.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well on our show. I have YouTube.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
You're on our show, So the fuck knows.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
The power of Gerard can tells you the power of Gerard.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Gerald has done put the curse on you.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
It probably like grab a stoolnight.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
We're doing the medium Ship.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
And before we get started, I got some shout outs
so that I want to give out.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I have some shout outs too, now that you mentioned
it first.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
First off, I wanted to go and shout out give
a shout out to Lloyd Crier and Company at Texas
fright Mare Weekend and thank them for letting us attend
this year and cover the show again. Much appreciated. It
was very cool. Uh, they're getting big, man, They're probably
gonna have to move into a bigger place here soon.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
So it's all now. I was annoyed by the line
that we was through it and literally like fifteen minutes.
I'm always going to be there the whole night. Yeah,
they moved quick. I give them guys credit. They can
get people through a line.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah they can. So, And let's see who else do
I got here? Oh? I wanted to shout out Christine,
thanks for playing along with the evil game there, and
also Chevy Morgan who's in the group and she played
along too, So she's from Joplin, Missouri, by the.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Way, gotcha Joplin. How does that sound familiar?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
That was for they had a really bad tornado, like
the biggest recorded tornado.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, in the world, was like took the whole town
out flat.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I knew it sounded really familiar. I didn't know why.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, when I drove down here, moving down here, you
drive right past it on the freeway and there's just
like nothing there. Well that back then there were still
shit gone. Yeah, I'm sure it's all built up by now.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Oh, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
And need to give our buddy Jimbo.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
No, you're stealing my thunder. I'm doing that one.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Oh okay, well you do that one though.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
So we want to introduce a new podcast called Dark Discoveries,
which features our pal Jimbo from the Tragedy of Cinema,
Dustin and Jackie. They are now doing this Dark Discoveries,
and the last episode was part one of three about
jack the Ripper, and it's very interesting stuff. It's it's

(11:45):
different because it's Jimbo in a more serious tone than
we're used to. And I'm really enjoying this so far.
So check it out on all your podcasts. It's on
Speaker for sure. Dark Discoveries is the name of it,
and it's hosted by Jane Barns. If that helps finding
it shouldn't be hard to find. I found it just
throwing him Dark Discoveries, So check it out. It's good stuff.

(12:08):
It's all like real supernatural and hauntings. And they even
did one on on Mermaids or what did you call it? Brett?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Oh? What's his name on there? The Dustin guys, Dustin's
called it a What the heck did he call it?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
I can't think now.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Y'all are making a big joke out of it's all
I remember. Check out Dark Discoveries, give them a listen,
and we're trying to get them on YouTube actually, so
we'll see how that goes. So, good job, Jimbo and Gang.
And then you got a good show going with that one.
Not that the other show is not good. It's just

(12:48):
a different tone altogether. And it's really weird to hear
Jimbo say this is parental guidance. This show is not
for all audiences. I keep waiting to hear him say
a cuss word, but so far it hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh it ain't, it won't. I don't think. I'm pretty
I don't even think he'd say poop.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I'm pretty sure. That's why I don't get invited back
to any of those shows.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Probably not stay clean.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think I can't help it, man, I try.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's just I same same here. Man.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, you survived the Planet of the Apes for a bit,
so y'all stop doing them.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, we gotta get that go back and roll in too.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
You got to do that, Mark Wahlberg Planet of the Apes.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
No, yes, that movie's not that bad.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's not that bad.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's not that good either.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Jimbo says, I hate apes, so maybe I'll go on
and do that one since you don't like it, Brett, Okay,
I'll replace your ass, go for it. Hm.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
We got a couple of episodes of the of the
TV series and but then you two took them all
off there. I couldn't watch no more.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Really, Yeah, they like skip.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
They skipped a bunch and it's all screwed up. So, uh,
there is a place I guess you can watch. I
guess you can watch movies online on movie Archive.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, movie archives pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to check that out see what
all is on there besides the apes.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
So that's my shout out to dark Outs Greg.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Not really, I did move sits and sounds to a
new hosting platform, So if you guys can't find it
anywhere on your normal listening, send me a message and
I'll see what I can do about getting it back
up on whatever you guys are listening to it on.
All right? Cool?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
It does suck when you change.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
So who'd you go with on the platform?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Amazon?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Really? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
So I switched to Amazon. If I'm from buzz Sprout
to Amazon, I'm gonna try them out and see if
I like it any better. Buzz Sprout's fine, is it free?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
That's why I swisched because buzz Sprout was charging me
like nineteen dollars a month. And when you're not putting
out new episodes and you're just doing it to keep
your old episodes up and archived, it's it gets expensive.
It does.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, well you probably lost all your all your views
when you changed too.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I did. So I'm seeing them gradually picked back. Anything
that was already listened to on Amazon was still there.
But we'll see because it ties the iTunes still, and.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
That's the key. I still think the iTunes and Spotify
are the two top platforms.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, that's it goes through the Amazon, one goes through spot.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
A lot of a lot of people overseas listen to
other platforms though, like you know, uh, get a couple
of them off off name ones but odd chaser stuff
like that. Yeah. So Audio Boom they I had like
twenty podcas Cass things that they and then we switched

(16:02):
a Spreaker. Now there's only like twelve.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, so uh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I'm not too impressed with Spreaker for what you're pay
for I don't think you get that much other than
being able to do multiple podcasts.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Switch chairs chair.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Lisa said, hi to us, don't know if she's still watching. Yeah,
I've seen that. Hi, Lisa.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I hope you're feeling better, darling. Uh, but tonight we're
gonna be talking all things.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Spooky spooky. Yeah, we kind of always talked spooky.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I don't know what we're getting especially spooky tonight.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah. Natasha hasn't said anything.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
I'm just feeling. I'm just listening.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I'm grounding, right, I only know what that means in electrical.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Okay, neutralizing energy.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You got your seat back.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, but yeah, we're gonna be talking witches, uh, seances.
What else are we gonna be talking about? Psychics? Meat, tarot, tarot.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Maybe some cursed objects, cursed objects.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
The missing Annabelle Doll.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah you hear about that, Natasha.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
No, I don't want to talk about him. I'm gonna
get scared.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Annabelle's missing in Texas.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
So they say.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Somebody probably just stole her.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Now, she was on her way from New Orleans and uh,
she got.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Sniped something some cool dd, some cool ass took him
probably so oh god.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
That's creepy. I'm gonna think about it.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
We don't know where annabel is supposedly. I still think
that's all a bunch of hokey myself. They play Annabelle's
back in the museum, so who knows? Who knows Zach
Baker her? Uh?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Even Zach couldn't keep her.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
No, he said she told him to touch her and
it freaked him out. Did he I think he did,
and it pissed everybody off.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
So well, touch it? Wait, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
What the Annabelle doll? He said he touched me? Touch me? Yeah,
basically it was the touching and touch that thing. He's
like a keep saying to touch it. I ain't touching
that damn thing. He just grabbed it and then he
like tripped out and said, get this thing out of here.
What you say? That was the end of it that

(19:10):
got there.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
It's like when you have to get called into the
psychiatrist's office and they're like, show me on the doll
where it touched you.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Warren family. The Warren family does claim that she's been found,
so I don't know. I don't think she was ever missing.
I think it was a publicity stunt.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Publicity stunt.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
And you get all the people who are arguing that
that's not Annabelle. Annabelle's they think the movie Annabelle is
the real Annabelle.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well that's because they're dumb.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
They are stupid. Yeah, they are dumb, dumb, dumb people
believe anything on the internet. Yeah, I just thought it
was funny that it's not really in a bill, like, yeah,
that is actually Look, I got the fake Annabelle. If
you can see it, I don't know. I can't zoom
in in the box.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Is that the one I gave you?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I don't. This is one I've had for a while.
There it is right there. That's the movie Annabelle. This
is not the supposed real Annabelle. This is what. It's
a raggedy Ann doll. And you got to be old
to know what a raggedy ann doll is.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
So well that's three out of the four of us.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
So yeah, Natasha is.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Not all enough.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
I don't know, I'm pretty old, pretty old.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Raggedy Ann and Andy never heard of raggedy Ann and Andy.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Natasha, you don't want to missing a damn thing.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
It's not a nassy thing.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Apparently probably not. I don't even know what did they
even make those stupid things anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
It's probably just for the promote because of the Haunted doll.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I guess, well, they want like twenty five dollars for one,
and it's a cheap cheap one too.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, everything's expensive now and cheap at the same time,
cheaply made. Yeah, have you got one from the seventies.
It probably be a lot better quality.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I told you the other day that I a few
years back, I seen one at the Goodwill store. I
should have grabbed it.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Bread didn't buy it.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
It was probably haunted.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Maybe it could Bread.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
You could have had an Annabelle too. Whatever that movie was,
Let it go, Brett.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
I'm disappointed in you.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
It was only eight bucks too. I was too stingy
to fucking spend eight bucks.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
On an air You let it Haunted Annabelle doll go
that we could have been making a million dollars off
of taking it around the country tour and it.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well, I've seen people drinking already, and I know I'm drinking.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I'm drinking.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
What are you drinking?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Death with lime vodka?

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Oh? Okay, so that makes two you guys probably drinking
lime vodka.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Then yeah, I'm drinking lime vodka with that's all bread
drinks with lime, juice and lemonade.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
The reason I pulled the lime out is because I'm
almost out of the orange liquid death, so I went
so I didn't. I figured I don't got much of
this left. I got the lime. To see the lime
worships the lime. I love the lime. Yeah, So what

(22:21):
you drinking over there, Grip?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I'm still on that espresso grind so it's made by
It's called Brin. It's an espresso liquor, and I mixed
it with some Buffalo Trace bourbon cream and some old
smoky pumpkin spice that I had left over. So I'm
feeling a little fault today. It's been raining for like
five days straight here, so yeah, feel a little foolish today.

(22:45):
And Natasha, what are you drinking for us tomorrow? Because
technically it's tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Coffee?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, coffee in the morning.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
There eleven, I think.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Thirty on a Saturday. I'm already six beers in right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Well, I was going to say, it's at that funny
point where it's like it's not too early, it's a
little early. There's not too early. Yeah, it's past ten
o'clock somewhere, right, isn't that what they say?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's five o'clock? But yeah, yeah, Hey. The way I
justified is, I'm sure there's a football match on in
Australia right now, right, there's got to be one on
right now, So you're just you're watching the game.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Well, yeah, that's it. I'm pretty sure the NFL's on
and we just had origin a couple of days ago.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
So see, because when I'm watching, you know, Saturday morning,
you know, kickoff or college game day, it's time to
start drinking at nine o'clock in the morning, it's fine, and.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You drink your coffee with a straw.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
I drink everything with this straw these days.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Oh that's that's that's weird.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
I don't want to mistick.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Oh okay, there you go, right, you should do the
same there, so your lipstick.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
See I'm drinking, well, I'm breaking my vogu with a straw.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
So well, that's because the lipstick.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Because because I don't want to ruin my lipstick.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
He's used to he's used to his straws being a
little thicker, right.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Easy there, cheesy, all right, So where are we going
to start off tonight? You want to talk about witches first,
or who wants to start?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I don't know. We were talking about witches.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
So who's who's the host of this damn show?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Let's start about Let's start with I did the intro
for you, so, yeah you did, Carl.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
You seem confused, so I figured I better jump in confused.
Then I asked everybody to introduced themselves, and you jumped
and introduced everybody.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Everyone should know me by this.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Point, all right, yeah, well they should know me by
this point, but I don't know if they.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Do or not.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Most people know Natasha now.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
So yeah, well she's the voice at the beginning of
the podcast.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
She's been the voice since the first episode.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, I always forget that I do that, and every
single episode for years now, I'm like, oh shit, that's.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Me, right.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
It makes me smile every time you come on, and
when I'm first here and then I hear bradon Carl
and I immediately get disappointed.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Right, I don't blame you. Christine says she'll be in
can Kun tomorrow. Jeez, I've somehow got it to where
I can read YouTube and it's working.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's good. Then you can follow instead of me.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I think I can now, So all right, let's go.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
What's your favorite witch movies?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Are Greg mine?

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I mean there's I wasn't planning on.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Which is so like what you plan on, which is
either a big list for which.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go with. I'll say Suspiria because
I do, really, I just it's so beautifully shot. How
can you not like it? I know I have friends
that don't like it. They think it's just an art
piece and not a movie, which is fine.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
They think it's they're wrong.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I agree they're wrong, but you know, everyone's entitled to
their own wrong opinion. I thought I was wrong once,
but I was just mistaken.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm wrong a lot.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
I would say Suspiria. I really like Lords of Salem.
I think it was twenty sixteen, the Love which came out.
I really like that one. There's a lot of Italian
witch films from the mid to late seventies, and I'm

(27:00):
kind of a fan of obviously in that period of
time when Suspiria came out, But I'm thinking of their
names right now is eluding me. And I really like
the uh the witches from like nineteen ninety when they
turn all the little kids into into mice.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot about that one.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Was that Angelica Houston?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
No, not the Witches of Eastwick? Was it was just
called Witches? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh right, yeah, I know what you're talking about now.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Then I really liked that when I was a kid,
and they remade it with Anne Hathaway and it's it's
pretty good too, but it's not it's not the same,
but it's still pretty good. So i'd say those are
probably my my big ones. I'm not a big witch person,
believe it or not.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
All Right, what about you, Carl, I like, you didn't
really tell me we're doing witches, So I'm just gonna
have to think off the top of my head. I
know there's a from nineteen sixty something. It was a
movie called Black Sunday. Yeah, that's on my list.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
That's a good witch movie. Let's see Suspiria. Definitely. There's
several Hammer movies that sort of delve into witchcraft a bit.
Let me think it's it's kind of I'm trying to think.
Suspiria is probably about my favorite one. I would think, Yeah,

(28:28):
there's nothing many really now funny enough, because I really
wasn't prepared for a list. I pulled this movie out,
which is Spellbinder. I don't know if anybody's even seen it.
It had a Kelly while Preston in it, and it
sort of delves with everything we're talking about, as far
as you know, a little bit of psychic magic, probably witchcraft,

(28:52):
and it's basically this I guess he's a warlock, you know,
throws his girlfriend doubt and this kind of computer techie
guy ends up, you know, taking her in and it
sort of goes to hell from there. This is one
of my favorite movies of all time. Actually, I'm glad
to finally get it on Blu Ray when I think

(29:13):
Keno put it out. But it it delves in witchcraft,
It delves in a lot of supernatural stuff, and I
would say this would definitely be at the top of
my list on it. Another one would be Lord of Illusion.
I don't know if he was a witch or if
he was a wizard. It's a Clive Barker movie that

(29:36):
the guy basically is a magician, magician, you know, like Houdini,
David Copperfield, but in reality he really is a witch, wizard,
I don't know, it don't really specify.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, you can think.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Of Warlock as well, Warlock Warlock would be a witch.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, another one.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
But Lord of Illusion is another one of my favorite movies,
and I would throw that on the list as well,
just again off the top of my head, unprepared. And last,
I'd like to mention The Craft, the original Craft that
was mentioned that movie and yeah, it's it's it's a
nineties movie, but it's it's really good.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
In which bed knobs and brooden sticks. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
What about what about Natasha?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
What? What?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
What's some of your favorite witch movies?

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Pocus Parkers? Okay, I watched Trkus Parkers as a little kid,
like a six year old or whatever I was. And
when you're six and you see a movie where witches
eat six year old girls, that's freaking scary.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
But then now obviously yeah, now it's nostalgia. I love it.
It's one of my favorites. And the Blair Witch Project
because when that come out, there was nothing like that,
and everyone was is it real? Is it not? And
it's it's still a really creepy movie even when you
know it's not real.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, I thought I thought it was real until I've
seen that chick in a steak and shake commercial.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Oh jeez.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, blair Witch is a good, good one to bring up.
I mean, I really wish they We've talked about it
a few times. I think you're on the evil talk.
I wish they would have delved more into the backstory
of it, and they never really did. But blair Witch
is a genius movie. It's great. I can never say
anything bad about it.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
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with EDWARDO sens exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, shameless plug, you'll never get us to talk bad
about blair Witch. I do wish they would have made
a movie that delved into the history. That would have
been good.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
I think there is a blair Witch true that like it,
but they didn't because it's creepy head that it's like,
you don't know, it's scary. It makes it feel more real.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, blair Witch Too is sort of a hit and miss.
The originals directors, they weren't involved in. It was a
documentary filmmaker that made it, and it's more of a
The blair Witch movie is a movie in that world
and it's people aren't real fond of it. Yeah, and
then they had the third one called Blair Witch, and
I don't even remember much about that one, honestly.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Oh Witch, Finder General, Yes.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Which Finder General? Yea Price one of.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
One of Vincent Price's best roles.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Really good, good, bring it, bring at the table. Yeah,
it's It's definitely one of Vincent Price's best movies.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Good calling. Chat.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Now there's that movie, The Witch that came.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Out Direcord of twenty one or whatever. Yeah, director of.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Twenty sixteen, I can't think of his name off and
Robert Eggers. Yes, that's a pretty interesting movie. Honestly, pretty scary.
We'll throw the Witch out there.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
There's some some good ones in chat here. Not to
cut Natasha off, but we have we have of uh,
let's see beautiful creatures. Some's our teen witch, Bruce Escape
from which Mountain dragged me to hell from?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Hey hi Pearl, Gazoo's with us too? Hey hey Gazoo?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Uh what's going on?

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Gazoo?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Which is of Eastwick? I think that's been said?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, Bill Booking Candle, I see that mentioned.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Too, Yeah, Bell Booking Candle.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
That was good. I've actually got that on dB.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Oh I forgot one. Uh, Hellbender? How did I forget that?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Oh my god, that's the best witch movie I've seen
for the newest witch movie that's come out.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
It's my favorite of anything this came out in the
last twenty years, of which is probably yep.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Thank god no one said practical magic?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Hey is isn't it Sandy b Though, isn't she in that?

Speaker 5 (33:58):
I do? I don't like how uh I think that's podcast?
But yeah, I'm glad I missed the Practical Magic. I
don't get it. I've seen it. I dn't vibe with it.
It seems to be a real thing on the internet
with like witchy people or I guess which he want

(34:20):
to be people. But I don't get it. I don't
understand it. I'm like, I don't what is the great
thing about this movie?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
But that's insanely Rosemary's Baby. I guess they were witches.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Weren't more satanic?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, I've always I've always thought of that as more satanic.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Than which is I'd call it more satanic?

Speaker 3 (34:38):
All right, Pearl stop dropping knowledge, just dropping Hackson out here?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Ackson, that's actually one that's good to mention, though I
know what it is. Something called spirited Away.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I've never heard of spirited Away, I believe, either, referring
to the anime, Yeah you missed it, Pearl, I said,
Lord Sale, I love that.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Ax is a good mention.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, she's just she's just flexing.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I'm really not too fond of that movie, The Lord
of Salem. I thought it was a little boring.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Have you rewatched it, though, that's the thing. No, how
many times have you seen it? Put that way?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I think twice all right, if.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
You've only seen it once, and maybe even twice if
you went back into it the second time with the
you know, a negative approach to.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
It soundtrack and the music, and it was really fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
But it's it's very it's a descent into madness, man like.
It's just it's such a cool look if you look
at it as someone that's really dealing with mental issues
as well as the witchcraft that's involved it. Man, it
just changes your approach to it. It's really good.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
All right. I guess we're moving on to uh, just got.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Dead air there?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
No, Well, I was trying to read the chat, which
is you Satan, and Satan uses witches in a lot
of films. That's why I went quiet I was trying
to fand them on that one a minute.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, I mean that's that's pretty accurate.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I guess we're moving on to.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I guess your actual wakend would would be upset with
that statement. If you want to get into reality, let's.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Do haunted objects. I guess, okay, what.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
We we definitely don't want to mention that stupid Robert
the Doll movie they made. Well, they've made a few
of them now, Well, Robert would be offended by those. Yeah,
and Chucky is not based on Robert either. That's another rumor.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Well, I mean Chuckie was a voodoo thing. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Well, actually Robert was sort of a thing too, probably,
so maybe that's where people got it from.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
They made these low budget Robert the Doll movies and
they're just awful. It looks sort of like a version
of the Annabelle Doll from the movies, and it's just
it don't look anything like Robert.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Oh, I never heard of it.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
You don't want to. It's a terrible movie, that's right.
They made like three of them.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Have you ever seen the movie the Depiic Box.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yeah, that's pretty good. I enjoyed.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
It's low budget, but they did a good job with it.
It's based on a guy's real shit that went on
with him with the depiic box. And do you know
what a typic box is even?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
No?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, why don't you explain to them, Natasha what a
depic box is.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
So it's basic from Jewish mythology, where it's a little
box that is inscripted with like magic or prayers, writing whatever,
and they trap a little dibik in there, which is like,
I guess, the spirit entite thing, and it's really tied
up in like Jewish vocal And if we're talking about

(38:22):
the same movie, because it's quite old now.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
This guy his was like a wine cabinet or something
though that he'd got like a sale or something.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Oh okay, I'm thinking of something one else then, because
it's like he had Jewish ancestry and then his grandmother
or something had this depig trap and then he handlesh
it accidentally. And it's a good movie, though.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I remember, I've never even heard of there was a
big box movie.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
I think there's a couple, actually.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
I mean that's the Egyptian mythology. You also have have
these guys too, which just sounds very similar. This is
a Shop D and Shop D's were put in with
the burials to kind of help them in the afterlife.
So maybe didn't really like possess souls or anything, but
they were they had like they were like the helpers.
They were ascribed with like magic.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah. Of course, Zach Biggins has a depig box that
came into a lot when him and post Malone were
playing with it, and then post Malone almost died like
the same Knights or something like that, So I think
that brought it to a lot of public attention what
a depic box might have might been to people.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
One of my favorite movies recently that had to do
with possessed objects was it came out of Australia and
it was Talk to Me. Oh yeah, yeah, so that
that's probably and again that's another divisive film. We talked
about a divisive films or films being divisive a lot,
especially on this channel because of horror films always tend

(40:05):
to have that kind of thing. But I think Talk
to Me definitely portrayed the want to find answers and
the wrong way of going about doing it. So it
was a really cool approach and I just I don't know,
I just really enjoyed it. Plus it had the head

(40:25):
bashing stuff, which I'm a huge fan of. I love
that trend in horror movies right now when people bash
their heads on stuff, Like I don't know why that's
a trend and why that's so disturbing, but it's so
great when someone bashes their own head. I don't know,
I don't know. I guess I'm sick, but I just

(40:46):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Fuck one that people may or may not know about,
And it's Friday the thirteenth, the series. Y'all aware of
this one, but Jason's. It's actually about a antique store
that basically sold a bunch of haunted objects and they're
having to recover all these haunted objects.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
How many seasons of that were there?

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Three seasons and they're all in this box right here,
all right. So this is one of the best hanted
object shows or movies, in my opinion, ever made. The
name is what sort of I think failed it because
obviously it's not about Jason Vorhees or or any of
the Vorheas family. But it's really a good series. It's

(41:34):
very you know, very eighties. It doesn't look very good
on video, but but it's got some good storylines.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
It's very eighties TV on top of that.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
But the stories are good if you can get past
the way it looks.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, this is.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Sort of a lost forgotten thing the whole Friday of
the thirteenth, the series.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
They show that on Comet, do they quite frequently? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I don't know where I managed to find the blu
ray of it, but of course I.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Think it's on Prime too. If I'm not mistaken or
to be, everything's on to be.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, that's a good haunted object movie to bring up
if I'm near the mic here. Sorry, put that thing back.
So what else we got on haunted object movies?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Would you guys consider it? Would you guys consider a
hell Raiser as a haunted object or like a cursed object.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Because it's cursed?

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah, because I've always kind of thought of it that way,
because you know, you have to the lament configuration is
something that you you draw it out right, it's not
doesn't just happen, and that's typically the way most of
the haunted like even if you go to like the Necronomicon,
that's kind of like a cursed object. Yeah, those are

(42:55):
probably I don't know some of my favorites at least
far as Hell Raisers, absolutely, that's the top. And Evil Dead.
I mean you see my Evil Dead post. I have
how Razor and Evil Dead posters up there.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I see it. So I mentioned The Possession. I remember
that movie. Yeah, that movie is really good. Actually I
remember that movie. Forgot about it. Possessions a good good pick.
There not a lot in the chat on on on
movies for the haunted objects. I don't know that there's

(43:28):
a whole lot to it. I mean, you know, I
mean we can get into actual haunted objects. So he
was talking about Annabelle. And then there's Robert the Doll,
the most famous resident of Key West, Florida, who I've
been with three times. Now. I can tell you some
really weird stories about Robert too.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
That did do you need to show on the doll
where he touched you?

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Ah? Yes, right here in Malbow. Not the weird thing
about Robert. Of course, they say, don't take his pick,
make sure without asking and all that. Well, I had
my phone just holding it in my hand like I
always do. Even though this is Christopher Lee, I wasn't
taking pictures. So I looked a little bit later and

(44:12):
there was like burst of There was like two hundred
and fifty burst of pictures and I didn't even know
you could do that on a phone, Like what is this?
And then I looked and there was like one hundred
and fifty more and I'm like, I don't get this.
I don't know how to do this. I didn't know
a phone could do it. My phone wasn't on, it
was just I was just holding my hand and it

(44:33):
was all pictures of guess who Robert from different angles.
I can't explain that one now, Like I said, I'm
pretty skeptical, but I have no idea how that phone
took burst pictures and it just happened to be by
Robert the Doll. I don't know how to explain that one.
For this day. I've still got those pictures I did.
I definitely didn't delete them.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
I mean, your finger was on the phone.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Didn't Something happened to video Bob Doo.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
The video Bob was making fun of Robert the whole time.
So we had to fly back to Texas and he
had to leave like the next day and take his
Ghostbusters ambulance to going to Florida. This is funny, but
it's true. He's tipping a TV show with Brian Johnson
of ACDC in the Ghostbuster Ambulance. He was in Georgia
and he heard this really creepy noise, Like what the fuck?

(45:20):
I guess it was a loud noise more than creepy.
Went out and I guess his trailer fell apart, and
the Ghostbuster Ambulance fell down and it knocked the fender
off of it, so it took him forever to get
it back on the road. He got there in time
to film the show, but I was like, you shouldn't
have been making fun of Robert. So he's a little
fuck that thing. So I believe that there is something

(45:46):
to Robert the doll. And again I'm pretty skeptical about
the supernatural, but Robert, I really believe because I've been
there with that doll. There's something to it. I don't
know what, but the burst picture thing that I've had
an iPhone since the iPhone four, I have never had
that happen ever before. I've even tried to do it

(46:08):
and I couldn't even replicate it, So I don't know. Man,
that's Robert. I have a lot. I have a replica
of Robert the doll right here in the museum, and
he's the star of the show we have. He has
his own light on him and everything. So in this
household we respect Robert.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Well, I'm gonna talk shit about Robert because I don't
know who he is, and maybe he'll come visit me.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Well, you have to be in front of him, I
think for that the work. Wow, So we got some
good ones in the chat. Now, the Ring Christine, the
Haunted car. Yeah, Conjuring maximum overdrive. That could be counted, Yeah,
that could be cursed objects.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
I don't I've always thought that that as more like
sci fi because isn't it the comet that.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I think a comment? Might? I think he might be right? Oculus. Now,
that's that's a good one right there, with the Haunted Mirror,
that's yeah. Of course we ja the Red Violin and
Annabell's mentioned. You know, there are what two Annabelle, maybe
three annabel movies from the Conjuring series. I think there's
more than that Anna Bell actual movies. I think there's three.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I don't know what the Red Violin is.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I don't either.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
You'll have to lighten us on that one because I'm
not sure what that one is.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
I'm gonna have to do a show about Robert on
Evil Never Dies podcast one of these weeks, because here's
you another thing. And I swear I didn't do this,
now this is for real on our notes. It just
appeared one day, Robert tell his story on our show
notes and yeah, it's like I didn't put that on there.
I'm like, I sure the hell didn't.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, that's Brett fucking with you.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Then we were talking about it, we were talking about Robert,
and what do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Natasha? Do you know anything about Robert the doll?

Speaker 5 (48:00):
I didn't turn into his energy? It scares me.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Yeah, I fascinating. What I gathered from his energy is
he thought I was cool and like me and sort
of gave me a good luck charm. Almost he just
fucking camera up on your phone. They didn't fuck it up.
He just took some burst pictures. It didn't miss the
camera up, didn't hurt it at all. I just I

(48:26):
don't know how you get burst. I still don't know
how to do it.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Or again, it's somebody that doesn't know how to use
their own technology and had their finger on their phone.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I don't know about that. It's never happened. I didn't
even have my I never I don't know. I think
it would have happened before. We're gonna try this right
now with the iPod. I'm trying to do burst pictures
and it just did it. But I had to force
it to do it. It just did twenty two pictures.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Cause effect it cause Well, I'm gonna tell you what.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I'm gonna take your ass down to Key West one
of these days and I'm gonna put you in front
of Robert We're gonna see what happens to you.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Fair.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
That's fair. I'm very open to it. Like I said,
I the science and me wants to I.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Am with you a lot on that. I don't believe
half of this crap. I really don't, but every now
and then I come across something that's it just seems
like there's something to it. Annabel Missing, I don't believe
all that crap.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
That's a publicity stunt exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
And and Brett phil for it.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Well, like I said, people believe anything they read on
the interney.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Do you put it on there?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Motherbuger, I'm trying to trick you.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I've been thinking all this time, it's been some ghostly apparition.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Needful things had cursed objects and eful things. That's a
good movie.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
It did it was a cursed Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
You can would Monkey Paul kind of counting to that too. Yeah,
I guess Advent Calendar.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Is anybody saying the Monkey movie? Yeah, that maybe that's a.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Cursed ob that's a cursed objects.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Man, I haven't seen it yet to come on streaming.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Yeah, that would be See that's the thing, Like a
lot of horror takes place around cursed objects. When you
think about it, it does like you can you can
sit down and think about how many of these movies
that we absolutely love start with an object being the
main focus point. I mean a lot of them. Really,
it's kind of fun. It'd be a cool, cool thing

(50:36):
to just really dig into and like deep dive into.
Like what was one of the starts of that, Like
you know, Cat's Eyes and stuff like that. Different things
in who Doo and Voodoo and all that kind of shit.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Chicken Bones, got some cursed chicken bones.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Hey, roll down bones, man, just roll in bones?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
All right? What are we on to next? Uh? What
else we got a doing into.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
The no I don't know what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Movies with seances that that was your pick, Greg.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, I mean there's been a lot of movies with
seances or types of seances, like the even you get
movies like a Haunting in Venice right that. Yeah, I
get that Christie has seances in it. Now, most of
those are buff kiss right. They they find out that
somebody is, you know, doing something crazy that to cause
the you know, third act. But the one I really

(51:41):
really liked recently was called Brooklyn forty five.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Oh, I've heard about that. I want to watch that.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Yeah. It's got Larry festenon and and pretty pretty cool
cast of characters that like they're character actors, but if
you look at me, like, man, I know her from somewhere,
I know him from somewhere. So it's like they're like
not A or B tier actors, but it's still a
lot of fun to watch them because of what they're
going through. And it like takes place in nineteen forty

(52:09):
five after the war and they're trying to do a
seance to summon this general's wife and shit just goes awry.
And a couple of my friends worked on it, and
I didn't even know they worked on it until after
I had seen the film and liked it, so like
that wasn't a factor of watching the film, was the
fact that they worked on it. I found out afterwards.

(52:31):
So that was pretty cool to see that. And it's
just again it has another head bashing scene. Again I'm
a I'm a sucker for head bashing. I mean, that
was really really good. So the seances was That's the
one I really wanted to talk about because I don't
think people are giving that one enough. It's a single
room film for the most part, could have been done

(52:54):
as a stage play, and I love movies that are
like that.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
You know, you get into movies like.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Rope and stuff like that that are you know, take
a place in a single setting like that. It's kind
of fun. Cube is another one that's single setting. Technically
it's multiple rooms, but it's actually shot in one room.
Those kind of things are just a lot of fun
to me.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
There's a new one coming out where guy's caught stuck
in his car, can't get out of his car.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Yeah, that's Bill Scar's guard. Yeah, I'll watch anything with him,
is it?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
The changeling is mentioned is having a great seance scene
in it.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Changeling is one of the creepiest movies ever.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Yeah, yeah, George C. Scott, I was gonna mention that
that's on my list, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Glad we got the chat here. They are helping a lot,
so keep keep going, doing a great job tonight. And
I can actually see it.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Was actually going to watch that the other night and
I didn't get to it. The Changeling, Yeah, that's another one.
When I was a very young child.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
I wanted, Natasha, have you seen the Changeling? No? Oh,
I strongly recommend you watch that one. I think with
your background and all this, and it'll give you the
willies hard.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
We'll see. It'll just get the street out of me.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
It's from nineteen seventy six or seventy seven.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Okay, it's really good.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
You know who George C. Scott is?

Speaker 5 (54:16):
No, I probably know him by face though.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Maybe you young and depends it depends on if you
like old movies or not.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
I love old horror. I'll watch anything from like silent
movies to the seventies to whatever come out yesterday. I
think old horror because it is old timey, just makes
them more spookier. I recently saw Island of the Lost
Souls a couple of weeks ago, the seventies one. Yeah,

(54:47):
that was different sea. I'll definitely watch it. I don't
mind if it's older.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I give you a list of different movies, so that's
what you're into.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
Yeah, if your Brian and get a movie list.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah, now that I don't like. I said, I didn't
even know what our topics were, but I pulled out
which Board that sort of I don't really consider a
wija board a haunted object, but it's not really a
seance either, but it fits the categories of all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Which Wichboard is a movie that I was going to
talk about for sure, because it does play into a
lot of the different chaos theory that comes with it.
And there's a great sun dial kill.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah there is. Yeah, I love Wichboard. It's another one
of the Again. I'm so glad to get it on
Blu Ray. The screen Factory put it out and put
some extras.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Insidious. It's it's got like a sort of like a
scene in it.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Yeah, I think it does.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
It does well.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
The Haunted Mansion, No, the only one through the Haunted Mansion.
I mean it does have a seance.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
It does, I would probably say insidious mediumship and like
astral travel and stuff. Though see at the core of
it really good. That one of my favorite hard movie series.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah, we covered it. Brett wasn't a bigger fan of
it as I was.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
I don't think I've ever heard of that Later Spirit
it's blin oh blin Spirit.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Okay, Yeah, Like, I don't think I've.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Seen that A whole lot of really, as far as
seance movies, I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Did the others have a seance in it? I don't
remember that. I remember the movie the others, but I
don't remember all of it. I haven't seen that. That's
another one that I haven't seen in twenty years.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, I know it's good though, had one of them
weird endings like the sixth Sense.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
You know, yeah that that's one of the best parts
of it. If you don't know the ending, you know,
just sticks through it because.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
It's to the end that pays off it days off.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I forgot it was Greg's birthday. Gregor Mortis is from
Land of the Creeps. It's his birthday. The Happy Happy
old Man Day.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Happy Old Man Day.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Peau old cake and eat it too.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
But I can't think of much in the seance world.
I know there's some out there, but it's just not
a topic I can think of off the top of
my head.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
I feel like that alls features salence. But there's really
not a movie around a seance, is there? Well, none
that I can think of anything?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Anything?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
What was it the house on Hunted Hill? Was there
a seance in that too?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
I don't either.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I mean, like, like Natasha said, there's seance scenes in movies,
but I don't think there's a movie based completely around
a seance that goes awry or something. I don't if
it is, I can't think of it on the top
of my head.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Yeah. I just wanted to talk about Brooklyn forty five.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Go for it?

Speaker 3 (58:03):
No, I mean I did already, That's why I put
it in my notes.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
And which board you said you want to mention it?

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Yeah? But which you get?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Which board? The love it's it's a great movie.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
It's just it's soap bonkers and like the best possible way,
and the fact that they wanted to call it WIJA
and they weren't allowed because of the Parker brothers.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Yeah, who no longer exists. Has Burl owns the weak.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Them Ouijia movies are all pretty dumb too. There's like
ten of them.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I think they're not very good. Now, I guess has Burl.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah host ooh Pearl, good good call. Did you guys
see hosts from twenty twenty? Oh, I think so we
This is literally the concept of host. What we're doing
right now?

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Okay, yeah makes place.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I heard about that.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Oh my god, watch it in the dark on your
laptop with headphones on, and it is a fucking trip.
It is so good.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
It is.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Oh so, it's so good to watch, especially in this format.
Like I said, turn all the lights off, put it
on your laptop, headphones on, and watch them on this
zoom call and it's it's so fun. Oh man. And
we're gonna do a terror reading tonight.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Really similar to that in the sense like, yeah, we're
living host right now.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Oh cool, I'll cut that out.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Oh this is awesome. I just pearl you rock man?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah, yeah, really really good. Good throw ins there the
chats saving our butts to that on some stuff. Comments
granddaughters here, Carl, I know, yeah, Ayla Zone, she's a
frequent guest on the show. She wants to know what

(59:53):
a terror reading is. Well, a tarot card reading is
where you basically predict the future or the cards, so
you you're past, present, and future.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
No, wow, hey, why don't we let the medium talk?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Let the medium talk?

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Well, did we want to talk about movies with psychics
and mediums?

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yes? Well let her Tella Tasha, okay in here, Brett, Yeah,
let's let's let's let her talk and she'll give us
a little rundown of about a little bit maybe about
the history and stuff too.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
So to answer the person's question, Taro doesn't predict the
future as such. Taro is just a deck of cards.
I think there's seventy two or whatever of them, and
each card has a meaning associated with it and it
works in many different ways. I have the horror movie

(01:00:50):
Tara deck. By the way, this is so super cute.
I don't know if you can see it, but you know,
each card has a meaning and symbolism that's related to
journey of life. So, for example, this one here is
what is this the Queen of Ones? She represents a
matureman who is good looking, fabulous, fiery, feisty, passionate, hard

(01:01:15):
working all the things. And then when it's reversed. It's
a woman who is vindictive, mean, kind of nasty, a
little bit spicy. So they have traditional meanings. Now, a
way to read tarot is to lay the cards out
in a standardized spread and you string a story together. So,

(01:01:35):
for example, this could mean new emotional beginnings with a
man who is I don't know, under the age of
twenty five, dark head light eyes. He's passionate, fiery, acts
before he thinks. But you have a choice whether you
want to be with him or not, So you just
string a little story together. That's the traditional way to

(01:01:58):
read taro, the proper way reading taro. Now, Tarot is
multi layered. There's psychology in here, there's energy in here,
there's hermeticism in here. There's obviously a cult. There's a
whole bunch of stuff here. You would find a lot
of Tara readers intuitively read it. So when they connect
with the energy and the collective consciousness, the meanings of

(01:02:23):
the card spark something inside of you and inside of
the person you're connected with, and then that helps you
help them, and it helps the story flow, and it
gives them the guidance that they need. Now, nobody can
predict the future, because we're not God. If we could
predict the future, some of us would be very freaking rich.

(01:02:47):
And at the end of the day, it's all about
free will and choice. The way that I see it,
and I'm no expert on this, but the way that
I see it is that certain things are destined, certain
things are meant to be, and how you get there
is up to you. It's kind of like Google Maps,

(01:03:07):
you know what I mean, there's different route options and
you choose how you want to get there, but the
destination is always the same. So that's how TWER works.
Different people, again, read differently. Some people tune into the
energy of the cards. Some people tune into the energy
of the person. I'm a medium, so I connect with

(01:03:29):
energies and I tend to not always use the cards.
I do get my client to shuffle the card because
it helps them focus their energy, it helps them to
ground and then I just read them. But you know,
some days when I'm really tired or I'm overworked a
little bit, I do lean on my cards and help
that energy connection through the cards as well. And I mean,

(01:03:52):
there's like there's so much to tower. The major Akana,
which is the first twenty two cards of the deck,
and they're the more significant cards of the deck. They
basically follow the fool's journey, which is the same as
the hero's journey, and it's all about starting life, new beginning,
connection with parents, the subconscious, the conscious, you know, connection

(01:04:18):
to society, finding love, finding love within yourself, things fallen apart,
things coming back together, spiritual growth, mental growth, it's addiction,
it's got everything in that. It's so much more than
just a three card pool past, present, future.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
See, that's what I've always done, is a three card pool.
And honestly, I have really really come up with some
stuff that's happened, you know, with people, especially my friend David.
I did a reading for him one night, and I
wrote it down and I gave him a copy and
I kept a copy, and I swear to God his

(01:04:55):
life followed the exact path that I had sort of predicted.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
And that's you can to your intuition, connecting to your guides,
his guides and the collective consciousness. And to be really
honest in burst everyone's bubble. The cards are just cards.
At the end of the day, it's the person and
that energetic connection.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Yeah, here's my cards. By the way. I've been using
these since I was a kid's huge. This is the
only deck that I've ever used. I've got other decks,
but when I do my readings, that's the backside there.
That's what I've always used, and I keep them in
my box and it come with this little nifty cloth
that cover them up in. And yeah, I've done a

(01:05:35):
lot of readings in my day, and I don't really
know exactly what I'm doing, but like I said, I've
come up with some stuff that's really been scarily true.
It's I don't know how to explain it. I'm not
an expert in it. I don't tend to read them
very often, but when I do, I try to take
it very serious. This is actually the book I've used

(01:05:56):
for years. You can tell it's well used too. This
the Tarot, plain and simple.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
But like you look like the kind of guy who
reads tower cord meanings from a book.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yeah, and I feel.

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
Like to find a guy who does that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
That's sort of what I do with it. And you
know that I've got my notes in here that I've
had for years, and like I said, you know, I've
I've really come up with some weird stuff with these
cards over the years. It's not something I'm an expert in.
It's not something I understand. It's just something I like
to do on occasion. But I'm very picky. I only

(01:06:32):
do it on rare occasion. It's not something I will
normally do for somebody. Throw the book out, she said.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
Girl, No, I like my Connect with You get Better
Ratings book.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I've used it with my book from since day one.
I like my book.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Now, I have a question.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
I'm not a medium, though I don't I've never been, so.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
M I have a question now, I've only only no
Terror from from the movies. Okay, so in the movie
Terror that came out a few a year ago, two
years ago. Not a great movie, but you know it
was fine. It was PG thirteen Horror. Now, they said

(01:07:20):
that you can't buy your own Terror. They have to
be given to you or something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
Right, that's actually a very common misconception and superstition that
you need to be gifted a cob deck from blah
blah blah on the full moon of I don't know what.
That's not true. I feel, and everybody does this differently.

(01:07:44):
I feel like the deck picks you. You don't pick
the deck, and honestly, it's it's just about what you
energetically connect with. I bought this guy off Amazon. Does
the job just fine. And you can also, like you're
supposed to cleanse your cards anyway, You're supposed to connect
energetically to your cards anyway. They don't have to be

(01:08:07):
gifted or anything like that. To be honest with you,
I personally would not even touch a tarot deck that
was not like brand new from you know, a fresh source,
because I don't know whose energy touched it. I don't
know what they use it for.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
So you don't want to touch Carl's cards.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
No, I mean I could if he gave me condition
and Carl's energy is fine. But I mean if somebody
found like a deck at I don't know, a thrift
store and gave it to me as a gift, I
would be a little bit bad. I'm not touching this,
and then.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
He's locked up in a box because I don't want
nobody touching them. Probably I've never let anybody touch them.

Speaker 5 (01:08:49):
But then that's the other thing, Like it's all about cleansing,
it's all about working the energy. I have hundreds of
people touched my tarot deck. I've got one that's a
real working day and thousands of people would have touched that.
It's all about seeing it, neutralizing it, bringing the energy
of the deck back to what it was. And different

(01:09:10):
decks have different energy, so this one is a pretty
chill energy. It's it's this is my TikTok deck. I
have a Disney Villains deck, which I thought was going
to be super cute, but they're actually mean. It's it's
a really mean deck, but they're villains, Disney Villains. And

(01:09:30):
then I also have another horror movie Oracle deck, which
is funny. That deck's got a sense of humor. I
have a centimoid deck, which is more used when there's
ancestor connection or people who do you know what I mean,
want to connect a little bit more of that way,
And there's that's got different energy. So it just it's

(01:09:53):
just about working your energy, protecting your energy, and obviously
neutralizing the card. And it doesn't out of who touches.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
It to talk about it. I don't want somebody using
my deck. I don't want somebody else taking it and
giving a reading. Touching it, Yeah, people split the cards,
so touching it is one thing, but having somebody take
it and doing a reading. I don't. That's why I
lock them up.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
That's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
That's what I meant by touching it. I didn't mean
physically touching them. I mean as far as take them
and give a reading.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Yeah, using them for reading, that's weird. That's like, I
don't know. I would never have somebody else and I
could never read with someone else's deck. That just feels
very strange.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Okay, I got a question.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
How do you cleanse the cards or re energize them?
What do you want to do that?

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
There's multiple ways. Shuffling some people knock on them, intention
blowing on them. That's how I normally do it. In
between readings. I'll just shuffle and tap them and just
get them right and put that intention of you know,
like my little thing that I say to cleanse them
and bring them back, and then once a week I

(01:11:05):
do a major cleanse. Now again, different people do it differently.
Some people put it under moonlight. I put it under sunlight.
I also get incense or I get we call it.
I think it's called cofa kanfar and English, I don't know.
And I'll do that, yeah, and I'll use that and

(01:11:28):
cleanse the energy with prayer and everything. No, it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
In sense bread. That's close. You're gonna get the vix.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Rub Are we all just going to go past the
fact that she laid us up a softball. That said
about blowing on a deck.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I didn't even hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Like, I mean, she laid us up a softball, and
I really wanted to swing for the fence and I didn't.
So I deserve a pat on the back for that pat.

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
Oh my god, I'm never going to see that the
same again.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Yeah, when you blow on a deck, it's a great
way to cleanse.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
I'm just saying I'm never cleansing the cards that might
ever get a movie forever.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Now, all right, I'm sorry, go back, I'm read.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Yeah, So what about a little bit of the history
of taro, Like where does it originate from?

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
And so from what I remember, I'm pretty sure the
tarage that has come in many different forms since like
the seventeen hundreds, but it became standardized in the eighteen
hundreds by ride or Waight what have you said his name? Well, no,

(01:12:51):
actually there's a different guy. I did a whole course
on this. I don't remember anything, but it came around
in the seventeen hundreds. It's been used for long time,
but got standardized then in the eighteen hundred. Sorry, and
then right away obviously with that beautiful lady who illustrated it,
whose name I also forget, always sort of became the

(01:13:14):
standard standard deck or the most popular deck. Now there's
different versions of it, and some of the cards have
changed over time, some of them haven't. It originated in Italy,
although some people say it originated in Egypt. A bit
of debate there, but yeah, it's mostly a European thing

(01:13:38):
that sort of has been brought over by gypsies. It's
a very complicated history, but it's been around for a
while now, a little while long time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Michelle said it was a parlor game in medieval times.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
Nah ah, fair, I don't know. I've never seen that before.
I've seen it was fortune telling or a bit of fun.
And it's based off the normal playing card deck as well.
So for example, the Queen of Hants is the queen
of cups, the Queen of diamonds would be the Queen
of pentacles, that kind of thing. So yeah, it's very similar.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Okay, all right, so I guess we're gonna go over
psychic and movies or what are we gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Right into it and let's get into it, man, right
into it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
So you're probably the biggest skeptic. Let's why don't you
go first?

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
No, right, but then give me five seconds to make
another drink. That's my drinks already empty.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Then okay, well.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
I'm going to need another. So you guys talk amongst yourself,
so Natasha can tell you how she's gonna, you know,
prove that she's right. Bro, I'm joking, Natasha. I'm very open.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Like I said, I'm very skeptical with stuff too, and
I just always enjoyed on occasion doing a tyrot card reading.
But again, I never really wanted to learn anything. I
just go off the book. I do know what certain
cards mean obviously, you know if they come up, and
I don't have to use the book. I just use
the book. And conjuncture with Alo said to quit smoking too.

(01:15:33):
It don't look good on video. Give me alone. No,
we're not. What are you pouring in there? He's pouring
in some kind of weird water. That's your vode kind
of joke.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
Beside, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Yeah, has the same book I got and I've read
about every book I could find on Taro, and this
is the one that I like. I've got it on
the PDF, I've got it on an Amazon, I've got
several cop hardback copies of it. It just I just
feel a connection to this, to those words in this book.

(01:16:19):
I don't know why. I'm just very setting my ways.
I got my lime, what line I gotta I gotta
spread wine? Brett Brett Brett.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
All Right, I did peppermint in this one, So I'm
going if I went from pumpkin to peppermint, so I've
gone from fall to winter. Maybe next I'll get the spring.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Maybe, So I need to put Christopher Lee back up
in his place.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Oh that's so delicious. I'm telling you that Grind Espresso
Liquor is where it's at.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Okay, I'm ready, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
I guess we're gonna go with Greg first. He's got
his drink, so he's ready.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
He's ready.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Can you hear us, Natasha? Yeah, I've seen you do
it on the the Hill Billy Horror, you know, on
the when you do it live. So, but I'm not
real familiar exactly how how you do it. So I'm
curious to watch this.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
Oh, we're doing the reading now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Yeah, we're doing it on Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
We're gonna start with Greg since to be the biggest skeptic.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
So okay, Greg, I'm gonna read your energy where you
need to talk so I can see your face.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
I needed to Okay, I can talk to you. Is
there anything specific? Just keep talking whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:17:49):
Take it a deep breath in relax. I just want
you to press your heels into the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Okay, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
I can see that you are somebody who is very caring.
You give it a lot of like, you really care
a lot, and you're somebody who because you care, you
do things. I feel like you're somebody who is very
orientated around a community. So you look after children, not
just your own, but you like I wouldn't be surprised
if you mentor or coach or do whatever because you

(01:18:29):
really care. I also see that you work really hard
and you do a good job. You make a lot
of effort to do a damn good job because again,
you care. You make a lot of effort to be
a good person and make ethical and moral decisions. This
is something that you consciously put an effort into and
this is important to you because of values put into

(01:18:50):
you by your parents, and there have been times where
you could have taken the low road, and you haven't
because you're a moral person. I can see that you're
someone who is very in the mind structure logic. If
it doesn't make sense to you, it doesn't make sense
to you. Kind of thing. What do you do for work?

(01:19:12):
Are you like in construction or it something that's based
around a lot of logic, being methodical, that kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Thing, And I'm a construction teacher.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
There we go, and that's it. You love the methodical,
You love that things make sense. A plus bid is
always c Now you are curious with all of this.
I normally use this to help people. Yeah, and my
guides are telling me that you two, except for Bread,

(01:19:45):
you and Carl, you guys are non seventy five percent
non believers. If you can't apply logic to it, you
can't apply reasoning to it. It doesn't make sense. But
it creeps you out and for you too. It's entertainment
purpose only. It's a bit fun, it's a bit of spook.
Gives you goosebumps, but it's not really real because that's

(01:20:06):
where the fear comes in. That's where the not understanding
comes in. If you can't apply logic to it, how
can it make sense? Because you're disconnected a little bit
from the intuition thing. They say you live in this world,
the physical world, which makes sense because a lot of
people do. Now with you. They're saying that again, this
is just entertainment purposes, This is just a bit of fun,

(01:20:29):
and you have capitalized on something that's actually quite sacred
to a lot of people without really understanding it and
only really being able to apply reasoning and logic to
things that do not have reasoning and logic applied to it.
I see that you're a good father. I see you
have a wife. You put on a lot of effort

(01:20:50):
into your family, your children. You put in a lot
of effort into your relationship with your wife by doing
the right. I like being a man, working, providing all
the stuff. But you lack romance in your relationship, and
that's on your end. She I feel, has actually called

(01:21:11):
out for romance a little bit more because you've been
with her a while. She's asked for a little bit
more romance. There's something lacking there, and you've kind of
not even understood why she's communicating. But also because you
haven't understood it, you haven't been able to give it
to her. You need to pay more attention to her.
You need to buy her flowers, you need to plan

(01:21:32):
one on one dates. Also, I'm just tuning in future,
future future. She's not leaving you, she's not having an affair.
Aside from that, you're pretty grounded, You're pretty good. You
just keep chugging along and doing the right thing always

(01:21:54):
because that's how you were raised. I also feel like
you're a little bit harsh on yourself as well. You're
very c of yourself. You are forever self reflecting and
seeing what you could have done better, if you could
have been nicer, if you could have been smarter. Being
a bit of a smarter ass is important to you
as well, by the way, And I feel like that's
because your parents were a little bit harsh on you

(01:22:16):
when you were growing up, because they wanted to raise
you right. They were I'm not gonna say critical, but
maybe hard. Hard. You know, they didn't let you get
away with things, and that's positively has made the man
that you are. But again, you need to be a
little bit of a smarter She need to be a
little bit ahead of everyone else. You need to be
the smart cookie because it makes you feel good. And

(01:22:38):
there's a slight I don't just say arrogance. Arrogance is
not the right word. But you're clockie, you're a little
cocky about it all. So go pay attention to your wife,
keep doing what you do, and humble yourself because there
are things out there bigger in this world than your
small understanding of logic and reasoning. That was a little
bit mean, but that's what they said. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
I mean a lot of it it was actually accurate.
The only thing that that's probably completely off is the
is the romance things. It's me that's that, just the
one that's always initiating and always trying to do the
romance stuff. And my wife hates flowers. So but other
than that, I mean, you hit a lot of the
nails on the head. So I mean, I see it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Connect, Huh, I see a disconnect. I think you need
to have a talk to her.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
The the what she the big thing with her is
that I don't help in the house. My job is
outside the house, so like when we get home from
work and stuff, that's that's where the disconnect comes in.
It's not not like the romance stuff. We mean, we're right,
we are. We haven't married a long time. It'll be

(01:23:48):
twenty one years in September. We got married super young.
We've been together best friends ever since. We do have
a beautiful boy and he is my absolutely everything. So
I mean, that's that's pretty spot on. So, I mean
you can hit a lot of those things, and a

(01:24:09):
lot of those things you can tell. I mean, I'll
wear a wedding ring, right, so I'm obviously so. But
I mean there's there's all those things, so it is
a bit of fun. I don't find anything way.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
There's nothing more romantic than a man who comes home
and wash his dishes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
Hey, guess what I did? I did that the other
day and she came up. She asked, guess what was wrong?
She goes, what's wrong? I said, Hey, you do the dishes?

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
What do you do?

Speaker 5 (01:24:36):
What are you stuffed up? Why are you kissing my Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
She's like, what, she said, what do you want? I
don't want anything. I had some energy when I got
Ran was trying to be nice, you know what I mean.
She's very particular. She's ocd when it comes to cleaning
and stuff. So if I don't do it right. I
do it wrong, and it's always if I do it,
it's wrong. So it's that that hurts things. It makes
things harder.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Have you ever washed your favorite sweater and then put
it in the dryer?

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
No, because the only thing I'm allowed to do with laundry,
because I've messed it up so many times, is take
things out of the dryer. So that's the only thing
I'm allowed to do unless it's bed clothes. I can
put the bed clothes from the washer to the dryer,
but other than that, I'm not allowed touch laundry. But yeah,
I mean it's uh, I mean it's funny. I really
enjoyed that. That was cool. You did get a little

(01:25:26):
mean at the end. I'm not gonna lie I am.
I am a smart ass. I do enjoy being a
smart ass. I'd say I ride the line between cocky
and confident. So you even use the word that I hate,
which is cocky, But I do ride the line between
cocky and confidence. I think that's a fun line to ride.

(01:25:46):
And I think it's very important for people to be
confident with themselves and be the person they want to
be because there's so many people in the world trying
to be somebody else because they're told to be somebody else.
That I think that's bullshit. I tell my students that
two hundred percent is what I expect. I expect one
hundred percent from them, one hundred percent from me. So

(01:26:08):
that's that's dead on accurate, because anything less we're leaving
something on the table, and that's not unacceptable. I'm very
critical on myself. I can always do better. So you
do hit a lot of things on the head, and
that's very very cool, and I want to believe it's
not through reading people as far as their body language

(01:26:31):
and perception and the things I learned in Sedgwick when
I was learning about doing internal investigations to see how
people react to certain things. He said about my parents
being very hard on me, they weren't. I was the
baby I got away with murder, So you know, stuff
like that is it's really really cool. I really enjoy

(01:26:52):
that aspect of it. I'm really excited to see what
you have to say about everybody else because that was
really cool. Thank you for doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
I just want to clarify it, everybody, I've never meant
gray before until now. Yeah, No, that's why I don't
know the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
So that's that's I'm pretty impressed, you know, I really am.
And again, I'm not a disbeliever in any way of
this stuff. I just try to find the the uh
scientific parts of a lot of it because some of
the stuff I just know is not true. The tarot
I believe in, I think it's it's I do. I'm
a I'm definitely a believer, you know, like Robert the Dall.

(01:27:32):
I really believe Robert the Dall is one legitimate haunted object.
So I wouldn't say I'm a complete skeptic on things.
I'm just I have I try to keep an open
mind because if you don't, you're gonna fall for a
lot of stuff. Yeah, and I do sometimes use stuff
like this for an entertainment, uh purposes. But I've been

(01:27:53):
in the haunted house business for forty years so and
like with weija boards and you know, upside down crosses,
I used to hang them in haunted houses because it
made people feel uncomfortable and that's what I'm looking for.
And we did that at Moxley Manor in what we
called the Blue Demon Room, and we Richard got a
lot of complaints because people were very uncomfortable with pentagrams

(01:28:14):
and upside down crosses and wija boards.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Because goats, heads on the walls.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Heads on walls. But but again, it's not that I'm
a devil worshiper. It's just I understand the dark side
of things, and I know a lot of people are
scared of it, so I like to play off of
their fears.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
I mean, think about tom Ariah and Slayer. Yes, okay,
tom Mariah is a devout Catholic. Yes, and he is
on record saying we wrote about Satan. We we played
music loud and disturbing just to fuck with people. Yeah,
because we didn't want to wear spandex. Yeah, that's what

(01:28:52):
it came down to it. We didn't want to wear spandex.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
I didn't want to be a glam band and sing
about girls and drinking whiskey.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
So they sang about the He said, what is the
thing that's most disturbing these people? Height to the eight
mid eighties satanic panic? Yeah, boom. It created an industry
and a model that we still follow today. Now there
are some bands that have taken them a little too far,
especially in Norway, but you know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
It goes you know that they've built their career off
of the whole Satanic thing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Yeah, and Tobias Forge is a genius marketer. What he
did to his band members and the original name of
the schools was unacceptable in the way that he treated them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
But yeah, he has issues, but you know, everybody has issues.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
But they think about it. That's that's It's a marketing thing.
I always say sex cells, right, yeah, and that's the
same thing that what do we say about horror movies? Boobs,
beasties and blood. I mean, that's that's why we watch it.
We watch it to get spooked, but we also get scared.
The guy from who is the guy Robert Something that

(01:29:58):
was in Nightmare on Elm Street. He was under a
different name when he was in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
But I can't think of the name.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
But he said, I when I get out of a
horror movie, I either want to fight or fuck, And
like that is like the epitome of what that is.
So like, I, I, you know, just this this is
really cool.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
I appreciate Natasha coming on and doing this because it
was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
And Greg's definitely the most skeptical of the three of us,
and I'll probably come in second, and Brett would definitely be.
Gret's definitely more open than I am, because again, I've
tried to encounter this since I was a child, and
for some reason, I've felt like a lot of this
stuff is the is scared of me, like I'm a
threat to it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
I metod.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
I will tell some of these stories, uh later in
the road, when we get into you know, maybe on
some of the other shows or whatever, about my supernatural experiences,
because I've had a plenty of them.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Never had never had one. I met Sasquatch once and
all I did was eat my ass.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
I was going to say, yeah, well, you know, big
Bigfoot is basically wookie. They come to Earth and then
poop and drive off in their spaceship. The poop in
the woods. That's why you don't find the body of
my ass.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
Yeah, Sasquatch my ass.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
But yeah, so I'm ready to I'm gonna go second here,
I'm go for it. I can't wait. This is this
is really really I'm looking forward to this.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
I'm excited.

Speaker 5 (01:31:22):
I'll get you say something caled so your face comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
What do I need to say? Let's say cool, Just.

Speaker 5 (01:31:30):
Do what Greg did and agree and saphen see your face.
You to take a deep breath in, relax, grand your heels.
Oh I love this. You have mad energy, all right, Kyle,
you are actually somebody. Yeah, you have mad energy. It's
actually quite strong. Your soul energy, your spirit energy, and

(01:31:54):
it's it's big. You are big energy. Now, you are
somebody who I feel like. On the outside is very logical,
very I've got things handled. You're pretty calm for the
most part. However, on the inside you are super super emotional.
There's a lot of sometimes okay, there's a lot of

(01:32:17):
emotional things happening in the heart. But I think if
you don't, you do express it, but only with those
who you feel safe with. You're not a big crier.
You will cry out of frustration, but you're not a
big cry But on the inside you can be, like
I said, a little bit more emotional. You are also
somebody who really cares. Now, this is a double edged

(01:32:40):
sword for you. You care about what you do. You care
about how you treat others. You care about how you
are presented to the world as well as to friends, family, everybody. Right, So,
and you care about being a good father, a good husband,
a good friend and all the things now with this care,

(01:33:00):
you are again very similar to our friend Grenk, overly
critical of your self. I feel like you're super super
critical of self though, and you're super critical of self
and others again because you care. I don't know what
your staff sign is, but you have mad virgo energy.
With virgo energy, people they care, so they're going to

(01:33:23):
be critical. They're going to want to do things one
hundred percent the right way, one hundred percent all the time.
There's a slight perfectionism street happening here, and that's only
because you actually give a shit. And I think you
also find it frustrating when other people lack and slack
off and don't do one hundred percent a good job,
because to you, that shows that they don't care. And

(01:33:44):
you need people to put that effort in because you
are put in one ten percent effort every day and day,
every second of your life. If you can do it,
why can't others do it? I feel like you have
some things going on in your personal life at home
that are quite challenging. I feel that you are tired,
you are stressed. You need a bit of self care
because you're giving a lot of energy and a lot

(01:34:05):
of love to someone at home, the certain things happening,
and you can't step away from it because this thing
at home needs you, But also you need a break.
You're exhausted. I feel like work is the same for you.
It's demanding, it's challenging, but it's also not so bad.

(01:34:27):
But the situation at Prome you need to look after
yourself with you're also again you say you're open, and
you are. You're very much a fan sitter, and being
a fanceitter is good because that way you see both
sides of the story. You know both sides of the
paranorm or the scary, the logic.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
And all of that.

Speaker 5 (01:34:45):
And the thing is that you see the creepy, You
see the things that are unknown, the things that cannoot
be explained, and you try to put logic and reasoning
to it to make it make sense. And again the
guides are saying to me that some things we just
can't put logic and sense to. It is what it is.

(01:35:07):
But that's not your place and not your job to
grapple with. For what you do and how you do
it is fine. You're more about understanding and making sense
of things rather than prove that this is true kind
of thing. You're generous. It's interesting, Actually you're generous, but
you're also stingy. You're really good with money. Car You're

(01:35:30):
good with money, generous but also stingy. What else? You
just keep chugging along the way that you need to.
You will any challenges that come your future way, you'll
have them handled. And you have a very good support

(01:35:52):
network around you. Do you have any questions? I feel
you you have questions.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
I'm feeling energy coming from you. I feel like there's
something you're wanting to say that you're not saying. And
I actually kind of turned sort of read that. I
think that proves there's something there because I see I'm
flushed out. So I'm feeling the energy from you.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
I'm a professional and I read ethically, and we are
public at the moment. So and it's not my place
to call everything that I see. Life is meant to
be lived. Yeah, life is meant to be lived. And
like I said, whatever happens good. I mean, there's really
nothing bad in life anyway. Everything is the silver lining.

(01:36:36):
But you know, like I said, you're somebody who rises
up to challenges. You're much stronger than you let yourself,
Like you tell yourself you are You're strong, you're tough cookie,
and well you know that anyway. But yeah, you're just
going to handle everything just side. You're just gonna handle
everything just side. But for the moment, they're saying to

(01:36:59):
just take a breath, look after yourself the same way
that you look after others. Put a bit of caring
attention to yourself. Very Everything's gonna be fine, Everything's good.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Just still. I could feel that energy coming from you.
There's yeah. Now that's very accurate, and my skeptical side
doesn't exist with that because you're you're key on right up,
perfect on that and I'm getting I'm kind of getting
where you're coming from from a lot of stuff like
you said. So yeah, very very very good, Thank you, awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Well I guess i'm up.

Speaker 5 (01:37:45):
Hey right, hello, I'm just gonna disconnect from Carl.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
That's gonna be tough, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:38:01):
Alright, ready, Brett.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
Yep, I sure, I am to look at I'm looking
at you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:11):
Oh you look at the camera that's looking at me.
I see a side profile you're.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
On the side screen. Okay, I look at you this way?

Speaker 5 (01:38:20):
Who can straight at me?

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
I'm ready?

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Hold on, hold on, I gotta I gotta recenter myself
because I almost threw up a little bit when Brett
looked at the camera like that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
Brett, keep looking at the camera, though, you need to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
Keep looking at the cameraca.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
Yes, all righty, Brett. Take a deep breath in, relax,
ground your heels into the ground. Are you ready, Brett?
You are charm Okay. First of all, I want to
say that you have a massive, massive heart. You actually
have the biggest heart out of a lot of people
that I've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
You.

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
Uh, the kind of guy who would take your shirt
off your and give it to somebody, like to your
enemy kind of thing. You are actually extremely intelligent, even
though people kind of see you for being fun chill,
gone with the floor. I'll he bug it up again.
But it's okay. You're actually really intelligent. You've actually really

(01:39:19):
got your sheet together, and not only that, you help
others keep their shit together. You've had a bit of
a rough past. There's been I wouldn't say there's been
a fair few significant hurdles in your life, and there's
been a lot of emotional pain. But you've really grown

(01:39:39):
from all of it. You've really healed from all of it.
And it's been a part of your journey and it's
absolutely made you the person that you are currently now.
You again super hard working, You're good with money. You
could probably be a little bit better bread. You could
probably be a little bit better. I also think you

(01:40:03):
need to look after your physical heart a little bit more.
There's a woman in your life. I see a woman
around you. She doesn't feel romantic. Maybe she previously was.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
I know you have an ex wife that you still
keep in contact with, that's your family. I'm not sure
if that's her, but I see that she's around you,
and she's very concerned about you and your health. You're
going to eat better, dude, and they're just saying you
need to keep chugging along. I feel like, also spiritually

(01:40:38):
and supernaturally, there's more for you to be, like to explore,
there's more for you to learn, and I feel like
in the future you're going to open up to it more.
I wouldn't be surprised if you go on like paranormal
investigations that kind of stuff. I also feel that there's
a bit of money coming your way, surprise money, not

(01:41:00):
the lottery, but something good, A little bit of a
bonus coming your way, which is nice, not that you
need it, but you know, you're right. What else is there? Right,
they're saying, just keep being you because you're warm, and
you're generous, and you're big hearted. You're like the big
cuddly teddy, a lot of love for everyone, a lot

(01:41:23):
of care for everyone, a lot of putting effort in
kind of thing. Just keep being you and don't let
the haters hate you, don't let other people bring you down.
But I think you're a lot better at that now
anyway than you were in the past. Do you have questions?

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Nope, you pretty much hit everything right on the head
except for the good with.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
The body broke. That's not good with money. I suck
with money.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
It'd be better as soon as I get it it's spent,
so yeah, but uh yeah, everything else pretty much right
on the head of the nail there. So yeah, Oh
good for sure. Ah, that was awesome, very spirit so

(01:42:17):
mean to me.

Speaker 5 (01:42:20):
Because I use my gifts to help people. I'm not
here to convert or convince people. And I think that's
what they're trying to say that to you. It's a
bit of a showrow to you. It's a bit of
a let's see what she says and if it makes
any sense, and then you're just gonna use logic and
reasoning to cut down what I say. Anyway, You're not

(01:42:42):
here to experience the gift for what it is. You're
here to experience it as a novelty. And I think
that's sort of shit in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
See, I don't, but see I don't think that's the
way I feel, though, I guess I'm very open. I
want to believe people that have faith. Specifically, I envy
because I don't, and when something is bad, I don't
have anything else to lean on. I have myself or
I have my family, which is a burden to them.

(01:43:12):
So I envy people that have something to lean on.
So I'm always open to finding a better way to
facilitate it. Whether it's meditation, whether it's exercise, whether it's
construction or doing art, or if you know, the call
is there to believe in something else, so it's you know,

(01:43:34):
that's it. I find this very interesting more than shut
it down, like yeah, I find it more interesting as
as a form of learning than I do as a novelty.

Speaker 5 (01:43:54):
You don't like, you're not full against it or anything
but skeptic.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
And he's not making fun of it, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:44:01):
They're more saying that to you, it's a smart ass, yeah,
like you don't really believe in it and you don't
really you know, connect with it, and for you, it's
just a thing of hey, let's see how this works.
If it works, you're not tuning it for what it's

(01:44:23):
meant to be for, and I think that's what shits them.
To be really honest with you, if you came to
me for a reading in real life, I would be like, no,
not for you, because you're coming in here to see
like is it real? Is it a thing? And it's
not my job to convince people.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:44:41):
Whoever needs it, whoever's meant to see me will see me.
Whoever's meant to get the guidance that they're seeking will
get it. And you're not seeking guidance. You're here to
be like what does this taste like? Is this real?
And I think that's what's shitting them, And they're kind
of like, this isn't a full show thing. This is
something and that's just what they're telling me. I'm just

(01:45:02):
going off what they say. I don't know none of
this comes from you for me. Like I said, I
don't know you from a bars mate.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
I mean to be fair. I listened to you read
the phone book, but you're right, I don't know you.
I love the sound of your voice.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
Sorry, that's why she's the first thing you hear when
the podcast starts.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
I've already said that. Once I hear you, guys, I'm out.

Speaker 5 (01:45:31):
Oh I like Brett's voice.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
I don't that makes one of you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Bret's always complaining about his voice, right, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
I just got the weird accent because I've lived in
so many different places. It's like I got the stoner
California twang in there, and now Texas and then midwestern Illinois.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
And I've been in my whole lap. So that's that's
all I got.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
When I go to Las Vegas, people say you're you're
from Dallas Fort Worth. I'm like, how do you know that?
Because y'all y'all have an accent. Like, okay, so.

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
You guys, do you do have an accent? It's pretty pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Apparently it's it's specific to the Metroplex.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
Where do I sound like I'm from Greg? If you
do I sound like I'm from Texas. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
It's what's funny is you sound like a guy that's
from the Midwest that's lived in Texas too long. That's
exactly what you sound like that, which is exactly what
you are. Where Like, I'm starting to sound like a
guy from Ohio that's been in West Virginia too long.
So there's there's definitely things that like, I say things
that are very you know, New York slash Pennsylvania Ohio,

(01:46:52):
and then I say things like, you know, I could
say Appalachian, right, you know what I mean. So it's like,
it's really weird the way we developed dialects and stuff. However,
an attachment, it just sounds awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:47:05):
I sound like a Queen's lander because people in Sydney
sound different to me. I sound a lot twinier, I
have a little bit of a heavier accent. And then
people in Victoria sound different again, so we have a
little bit of that as well here. Yeah, I go
down there and I'm like, everyone sounds like South Wales.

(01:47:26):
I'll go to Sydney and I'm like everyone here sounds
so posh and English, and people are kind of like,
oh shit, back, what a bush are you?

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
From I see. I think it's awesome. It's funny the
way dialects come, and you know, it makes me wonder, like,
how how is the medium seen in and like terror
readings and crystals and all that kind of stuff that
you guys do. How is that seen in Australia versus

(01:47:55):
what we see in the US.

Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
It's so it depends. If you're in like a major
city like Brisbane, it's a little bit quieter, but the
more rural you go, the bigger it is. It's actually
quite popular. Australia is a very spiritual country at the
end of the day. Really, we have like several mind

(01:48:21):
body spirit festivals here. I mean they're all over the world,
but they have a few of them here, over multiple
states and cities I think over all. And again it's
interesting you say America because the culture varies from state
to state. So I find that the South is very

(01:48:42):
you know, open to superstition and the paranormal, but it's
kind of hidden. But then if you go to somewhere
like Miami, because that culture is different there they're scared
of all of this, but then they have their own thing,
do you know what I mean? With the here and
all of that. And then again it's different in New

(01:49:05):
Orleans with the hoodoo and the voodoo and all that.
So it's it's interesting. It's very not as out then
and it's not so a part of the Australian culture,
but it is pretty popular. It is pretty out there.
If that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
It does. And that's kind of what I was alluding
to is because of how diverse we are as a
nation in the United States, we do have those different
subcultures that develop. Even up in you know, in Ohio
or I'm from in Cleveland, that area, we had separate
sub sub sects of cultures just in the same city.

(01:49:50):
You know, we had a little India, we had a
little Italy and stuff like that. So and when you
go there, it's it's a different culture. It's it's like
it's like traveling to you know, you know India and
you just you went two blocks over. So it's it's
really cool the way these if you look at the
cultural diversity in the way that these geographic regions have developed.

(01:50:14):
And I didn't know if Australia has done that, because
I know so much of Australia is the.

Speaker 5 (01:50:21):
Outback right so by land, Yes, like the majority of
the country is out back, but in terms of diversity,
Australia is like the most multicultural country in the world.
Where I live, I can go up the road and
it's like I'm in the Middle East. I go down

(01:50:42):
the road and it's like I'm in Fiji, and I
can go across the road and it's like I'm in Chinatown,
and again it's it's super diverse, Like I can get
any kind of food from anywhere in the world at
any time, day or night. Here it's insanely alticultural and

(01:51:02):
like it's it's really full on. To be honest with you,
it's way more multicultural than America is. When I was
there a few years ago, I was actually really surprised
because I was like, you will eat American food at restaurants.
You don't, like you have like one Chinese joint where

(01:51:22):
it's there. It's nobody goes out to eat what they
eat at home. You know, We've got Indian restaurants, We've
got Mongolian restaurants, we've got your standard Chinese. But then
you have your Japanese and you've ye it and like Indonesian, Malaysian,
like and that's just your Asians. You know, and then
you have your Arab food and your Turkish food and

(01:51:45):
your Lebanese food, and then there's right right, I'm on
a mission to learn to cook Lego food. But that's
been saying like it's intense insanely multicultural here. So we
do have the little sets, like you said, You've got
your Chinatown and all of that, and yeah, the different

(01:52:09):
subcultures in there. But I guess overall, spiritually Australia as
in general, it is spiritual, it's just not as out there.
And again, like in New Orleans, they have their own
voodoo which is different to like yeah, and again like

(01:52:33):
what people would do in the Fijian community is different
to what the Asians do, do you know what I mean?
But for example, I wear a little evil eye, you
know what I mean, just to protect myself from all
the energies and stuff. That's that's a Greek thing, That's

(01:52:54):
that's a Cyprus thing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
What do you think about black?

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
I like it. I have it everywhere in the house,
so do I.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
I got to hanging everywhere. Yeah, I got it hanging
from my rear view mirror in my truck.

Speaker 5 (01:53:08):
Yeah. I get really bad nightmas if I don't have
one under my bed.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
Maybe that's why I don't have nightmares or dreams at all.
I have zero dreams that I remember.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
Passed out drunk.

Speaker 5 (01:53:22):
No, A lot of men don't dream. It's it's a
men thing. I bet you you talking your sleep though.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
I bet I do too.

Speaker 3 (01:53:29):
Yeah, my wife says I do.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
It was really bad when I had my one of
my sleep apne was really bad too.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
I really, what what's it mean when I laugh in
my sleep constantly?

Speaker 5 (01:53:43):
Because you're really freaking creepy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
You're a goofy fucker.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
That's because my wife says, I laugh and it's really creepy.
She's like, you'll just be sitting there giggling. She's like,
you don't giggle in real life, but you're giggling at
night all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:54:01):
I had that happen to be once when I was
laying that and he's dead asleep, be souarts giggling, and
I'm like, holy ship.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
Yeah see that, that to me is hilarious, Like that's
the start of a horror movie. I think that's great.

Speaker 5 (01:54:16):
Yeah, that's how I fell true.

Speaker 3 (01:54:20):
Yeah, doctor giggles, there you go. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
I can't think Natasha enough. Man, I this was great.

Speaker 5 (01:54:34):
I'm sorry that a little mean to you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
I am used to people being mean to be. You
either love me or you hate me. There's no in between, so.

Speaker 5 (01:54:44):
It's find as well. But like I'm gonna say that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
No it is. It is perfectly fine. Like people, I
tell people all the time, I'm very sarcastic, I have
a very dry wit. And you either love me you
hate me. There's no I'm either you either spend the
first twenty minutes fight figuring out if I'm mean or
I'm funny, and it's a bit of both. I'll be
honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Well, if we didn't love your brother, you wouldn't fucking
be here right now.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
You wouldn't be the official co host permanently of the
Evil Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
I love you, guys, you know I do.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
I love you too.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
There, Well, do we got anything else, guys?

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
I don't know. I just pulled these cards out for
some read just out of nowhere.

Speaker 5 (01:55:28):
Read it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Read it?

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
Maybe you have to read me go go Yeah, I
read it, Carl, I don't think so. I think it
was I already looked it up and it don't seem
to mean anything.

Speaker 5 (01:55:37):
Okay, say it. It might means something to be go
go go.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
I don't think so. I just my energy's totally gone.
I feel drained. Actually, I feel tired right now.

Speaker 5 (01:55:47):
Yeah, that's because you connected with me and it's intense.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Yeah. I looked it up in my book and they
just they don't mean anything. I think. I don't know,
I just.

Speaker 5 (01:55:56):
Feel what did the traditional meanings said? Read it for
the book, the way you do it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
We're gonna do The only one that seemed to interest
was this Queen of Pentacles.

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
And we're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
So what I get. It means a sensible approach. The
card signals success in business and financial matters. A sensible
practical approach brings steady progress. The Queen of Pentacles can
indicate uh material abundance and delights. You may have dealings

(01:56:33):
with a shrewd business woman, or you may apply practical
conservative measures to your own affairs. So it means like
a business woman, a good organizer, a shrewd talented, creative
woman of wealth, a patron of the arts.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
So there you go, Natasha, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
This will be the video that sparks eight million dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:57:02):
Could be Yeah, I'm gonna go viral. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
You never know.

Speaker 5 (01:57:09):
Call what would the other te just read it out?
It's okay, it'll make sense. She's just got to trust
the process.

Speaker 1 (01:57:15):
Oh, I got a kid here with me. Now, who
just woke up? What's wrong? Scarlet? We got in, came here, Scarlet? Sorry,
you just woke up? You just woke up? Oh my goodness, No,

(01:57:36):
she want to say hi. You don't want to say hi.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
Her hair's cue. I like the regular scarlet.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
Your sister was on here talking to us earlier. You
look tired.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
She just woke up.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
Yeah, she just woke up. She's gonna be up all
goddamn night now, she said, don't say cuss words.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
I only said damn.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
Is it like ten o'clock there, which.

Speaker 1 (01:58:11):
She hasn't felt that. She's fighting allergies?

Speaker 2 (01:58:16):
Oh yep, its allergy time here, Yeah, the theater.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
When I picked her up, I was supposed to get
her in the morning, but we got her tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
What's the weather like down there? What's the weather like
an Austria? Fuck? Fuck you guys. What's the weather like
in Australia.

Speaker 5 (01:58:35):
It's cold, but I mean it's like sixteen seventeen degrees
Celsius at the moment at night. I'm from the warm pot.
I'm from the warma pot. My mother is actually very
singular to Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
Yeah before yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:58:52):
Yeah, I basically I basically live in the Texas of Australia.
But it's winter now, so it's called it's getting that.
It's it's cold.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Yeah, it looks very cold.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
Yeah, the sun is shining. I haven't seen the sun
in six days.

Speaker 5 (01:59:13):
Really got to see you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
It's been pretty bad on vitamin D.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
Uh yeah, no, I'm not now lactose tolerant.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
They got a little little bitty brown nugget you can
take for vitamin D.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
This is how I know I'm getting old. When I
went to the doctor, if I had to go for
my neck, to the neurosurgeon and to the neurologist, and uh,
they were like, you need you need vitamin B twelve.
Like what the hell is that? That sounds like something
old people take. They're like, yeah, you need you need
a thousand milligrams a day.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
I'm like you do. I'm like, okay, cheap on Amazon, dude,
get your big bottle. I've always believed a big bottle
take one to day at a last a year.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
Dude, I don't like getting the old sucks got.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
So many supplements. I think that's the only reason I'm
still kicking.

Speaker 3 (02:00:08):
Well. According to Tasha's reading, if you don't start taking
care of yourself, that it's possible.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
I do pretty much like it. But I've been getting
better about that. I haven't eate real fast food and
rarely in like five years.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
So and y'all, just y'all talk about how to re
energize the cards. I put them in this This is
where these cards have lived their whole life. So I
think that's how I re energize the cards.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
You gotta do what works with you arounds different.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
Then I put them in the box and that's that.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
So what will you do, Natasha, now that you've read us, Like,
what is there an ending type thing that you do
with your stuff?

Speaker 5 (02:00:51):
Or Yeah, I'm gonna go have a cigarette, I'm gonna
drink some quite zero and then I'm just gonna carry
on and continue.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
Okay, I don't know that I'm asking you.

Speaker 5 (02:01:03):
I know I should ground and meditate and all the
other stuff people said it, but I just I just
do what works will.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
Be Okay, what hey, you do that? I tell people
the time, you do what you do best, and that's
be yourself.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
And it is ten o'clock.

Speaker 2 (02:01:23):
All right, Well, I guess that's all we got for tonight.
Thanks Natasha for coming on and doing this with us,
and thank you so much, no worries.

Speaker 5 (02:01:34):
Thank you for having me and letting me do my creepy.

Speaker 1 (02:01:38):
That wasn't creepy. That was very energetic and I definitely
felt that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:45):
I truly truly enjoyed it. Natasha, don't don't let the
spirits tell you different. They're liars.

Speaker 2 (02:01:54):
Left. I don't want you guys to stay on for
a minute after we get done. So thank you everybody
for watching.

Speaker 1 (02:02:02):
We love y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
Thanks for all the chiming in about the movies and stuff.
We really appreciate it. Next week, I think we're carl
and I are doing subspecies. Since he bought the big caskets.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
Oah, so there's the lid right there.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
Oh that's such a beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:02:22):
Yeah, I'll have to show it off. He got it.
He got it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:25):
Uh the booth there for full Moon?

Speaker 3 (02:02:30):
Did you get to talk to Charlie. No, he's such
a great dude.

Speaker 1 (02:02:34):
He was there.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
You guys talk to Elliott Fullham either.

Speaker 1 (02:02:38):
Did you know it was just two the representatives there.

Speaker 3 (02:02:41):
I messaged Justin and tried to get you guys to
get to talk to him, but it must not happened.

Speaker 1 (02:02:46):
I'm sorry. Yeah, it was really crowded. It was so
crowded when we went Saturday. That's when I had two
of those. I was I got one of the two.

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
It was hard to even get in to look at
booths and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
Yeah, no, don't need to get a big.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
Yeah it needs. It needs to go to the Dallas
Convention Center next if they can.

Speaker 2 (02:03:09):
So all right, everybody, thanks again, and uh, stay evil.
Everybody supposedly live stream ended. Let's make sure YEP says
it ended. I'm gonna stop recording, but stay on, everybody,
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