June 15, 2025 • 54 mins
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Speaker 2 (02:30):
What's up, Evil Ones, Welcome back to Evil Never Dyes
Podcast and Happy Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, we've even got little Jason out there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Let me oh, it's a widow Jayson.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Jason. You can actually see the whole studio. If I
move out of the way, it zooms in on stuff.
The little Jason's here for Friday the thirteenth. I'm barely here.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I know. We're both barely here.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
We're both barely here.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We've both got bad backs.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well mine's because I trying to start a chainsaw and
it slipped and fell almost we're not going to talk
about last week. That episode. It's no longer on YouTube.
Got shadow Band.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
We decided to pull it because it was we had
like eight views on the Motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
We think it was shadow Band, and plus we talked
for twenty minutes about something other than the movie. So
I want to go back and do that movie again,
like in a year. But tonight it is Friday the thirteenth,
And I asked Brett which one, and he picked. What'd
you say? What's the one that I can't even think of?
The idiot's name? What is that idiot's name?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Ry Feldman?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Ory Feldman, the one that he killed Jason, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
My favorite guitarist ever.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That would be Friday the thirteenth, the Final Chapter. Yes,
it is featuring the Corey Feldman versus Jason var He's
all right. And I'm just gonna say, of all the
movies I've ever seen in my life, I have probably
seen this movie more than anything other than the movie
(04:12):
Chariots of the Gods. But so I used to watch
like two or three times a day back in my childhood.
That's how weird of a kid I was.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yes, Chariots of the Gods.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Uh yeah, And they made that entire thing into the
Agent Alien show on the History Channel, which is like
on season twenty now. So it's sort of like, Wow,
I guess I was onto something as a kid.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But other than that, Friday the thirteenth, the Final Chapter
is probably about my second most viewed movie. Really, maybe
one of the Star Wars movies would be right there
with it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I don't know, gotcha all right? Front of the Thirteenth
The Final Chapter the fourth installment to the Friday of
the Thirteenth series, Directed by Joseph Zito, Screenplay by Barney Cohen,
Story by Bruce Hedmi Sackow sack Cow Sacow, based on
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characters by Victor Miller, Ron Kerrs, Martin Katroser, and Carol Watson.
Produced by Frank mancu Mancuso Junior. Cinematography by Joe Fernandez,
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Edited by Joel Goodman Daniel Lowenthal. Music by none other
than Harry Manfredini. Production company Friday four, Inc. I wonder
if that's because this is the fourth Friday movie.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I guess. So that's pretty creative of him, is it?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Not? Distributed by Paramount Pictures. Released on April thirteenth, nineteen
eighty four, which was a Friday, of course it was.
There's some trivia about that we'll go into too later on.
So as a running time of ninety one minutes, country
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of origin, United States, English language, budget they say anywhere
from one point eight to two point two million dollars,
and it did awesome at the box office, brought in
close to thirty four million dollars, eleven million of it
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in the first weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Do you think this was the prime of the Friday
the Thirteenth series at this stage.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, we'll get into a little bit of that too.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'd say between the part three in this that would
have been what I would have called the prime if
it had one.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
All right, well, I guess we'll go over the plot.
You want to do the plot, Carl of this one.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, it's typical Friday the thirteenth movie takes place after
Part three, or also known as three D Friday the
thirteenth three D. Jason's dead, as is everybody else. They're
coming to cart him off and he's taken to the Morgue.
So I don't know why does Jason stay dead longer
sometimes than others. It makes no sense to me, But
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maybe it's because he was at the Morgan. These two
idiots start trying to have sex basically on top of
his dead body. This corner is an idiot. He eats
a sandwich, puts it on the dead Jason. Well, apparently
this pisses Jason off. Between the sandwich and the sex,
and he wakes up and kills everybody and starts walking home. Well,
apparently he doesn't make it all the way back to
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Crystal Lake this time. He's like in between maybe I
don't know, he's not in his typical in Crystal Lake. Yeah,
he finds himself well with Corey Feldman's family, sister and
mother and a house full of these terrible teenagers and
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featuring Crispin Glover.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I guess, like an old school A B and B
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I think it was. But they're not campers and that's
what makes this movie unique. It's actually not campers and
it's not at the campsite. Yeah, Crispin Glover is the
only one I actually recognize, and he sort of plays
the typical nerdy character that he usually always does. He's
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known for being George McFly from Back to the Future,
which I guess came after Thish. Yeah, and basically Jason
starts killing everybody he has always and that's pretty much
you got the part of the little partying teenagers and
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Corey Feldman's family and and then this weird dude hiking
in the woods shows up sort of as a bounty
hunter almost.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, he was. He was looking for Jason.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Looking for Jason because Jason killed his sister. Yeah, so
sort of a flash forward to Jason's dead, and that's
another time a bounty hunter comes after Jason.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So lots of characters in this or goes into the
remake too, because.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It does it does. Yeah, so this is this is
a different of the Friday the Thirteenth series. It's it's
not like the others. It stands out. But for me,
like I said, I have seen this movie so goddamn
many times that it's just hard to watch at this stage.
(09:46):
It really is. But we're not gonna We're not gonna
consider that when I do my reviews. Okay, I am
gonna give a review of the me in the nineteen
eighties versus the me of today though probably.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
All right, all right, let's go over the cast.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
We got Kimberly Beck as Tris Jarvis, Peter Barton as
Doug Bell, the best guitarist of the World, carry, Corey
Feldman as Tommy Jarvis, e Erick Anderson as Rob Deer,
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Crispin Glover as Jimmy Mortimer or Slash Jimbo.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Slash dead fuck fuck that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh, that's funny. That was probably the funniest part of
the whole movie.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It was a pretty There's a lot of comedy in
this one too that you don't find in parts of one, two, three.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Alan Hayes as Paul Guthrie, Barbara Howard as Sarah Parkington,
Lawrence Monison as Ted Cooper, Joan Freeman as Tracy Jarvis
the Mother, the Mother, Judy Aaronson as Samantha Lane, Camilla
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Moore as Tina Moore.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
There's always a Tina in in in these movies.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It seems like, uh, Kerrie Moore as Terry Moore.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Kerry Moore is Terry Moore. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Uh, they were twins.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Oh they were the twins.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, they were the twins.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I remember them twins well in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, they're pretty hot.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Lisa Freeman as Nurse Robbie Morgan, Wayne Grace as Officer Jamison.
Bonnie Hellman is the hitchhiker, Frankie Hill is Laney. Paul
Lecarthur as the doctor. Bruce Maylor.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Was he the one trying to screw the chick on
top of the dead Jason?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, he was a dits. Bruce Ladies Idiot.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Bruce Mayler as Axel Burns, Uh, Anthony Ponzini as Vincent,
and Ted White unaccredited as Jason Voorhes. And yeah he
wanted it unaccredited, did he? Yeah, because he hated doing
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this movie. I guess so.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, you know, if you're your typical special effects guy,
you know, it's probably just another day at the Day,
you know, at the Woods or whatever. Playing Jason. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He was my age when he played this part. He
was fifty eight years old. No, hell and yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Not your most known Jason then.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
But it's a lot of people say he's their favorite Jason.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
He is a good Jason.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He did do a good job as Jason, for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
He did a really good job as Jason, especially when
he gets hacked up.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And yeah, we're gonna spoil this when Jason dies at
the end of this one. But actually he really dies
at the end of this one. Yeah, he's dead as
fuck at the end of this movie. But if you
haven't watched this by now and you're watching this show,
I don't know what to tell you. I don't know
what Jason dies. Sorry, he dies at the end of
all these freaking movies. But he really dies this time,
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but that isn't That's why it's called the Final Chapter.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Forty one years ago, nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I believe you're right. Shit, Well, I guess we'll talk
about the Blu.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Ray, all right, Yeah, go on with the Blu Ray.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, this comes from the box which is still available
and screen Factory has it on sell here. I think
this week which has every Friday the thirteenth movie made
in the box, including the ones from Paramount and from
Newline Cinema. And honestly, they claim that this is a
four K scan from the original camera negative. Well, if
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it is, it's a shitty camera negative because this movie
looks like crap on Blu Ray. Unfortunately, just not. It's
just very staticky and just just not a good picture
at all. I don't know what if the screen Factory
cleaned this up it was Paramount, but honestly, I think
the damn DVD looked better. Now, this does come with
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a few special features. It has an audio commentary by
the director and the screenwriter. There's slash scenes with audio commentary.
That's your scenes that were cut out. They're not very good.
Jason's Unlucky Day twenty five years after Friday the thirteenth,
the Final Chat. That's a good little documentary. There's the
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lost ending, which doesn't really The ending of this movie
is weird. They were trying to set something up that
they didn't get to pull off, apparently maybe due to
the fact you changed directors on every one of these movies,
but for Scream Factory. I am not pleased with the
way this looks. I'm hoping that somebody may put this
out on a four K. We've got Arrow putting out
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a lot of the movies they put out the remake
Jason Goes to Hell, and I think Jason X are
now on four K. So let's hope that this thing
gets some real four K treatment, because this is not
a good picture. It just it's not. I don't know
what you watched it on, if you had any better
luck than me.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Actually, I watched it on uh Pluto.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I don't even know what the Pluto is.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's one of them streaming services. I think it's owned
by uh oh shit, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I can't think of it right now, but here amount.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Or anyway, it didn't look bad.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
This looks pretty bad on the on the Blu ray
a lot of film grain and just staticky, and the
dark scenes don't look very, very, very realistic. So it's
not a good four K scan. Like I said, I
don't know who did this, but it needs a better scan.
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So I'm gonna have to give this thing. I mean,
it comes in the box set. The box set's cheap,
now I thought, I think I paid a ton for it,
but it's the only way you're gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I think Amazon's got it for one hundred and thirty bucks.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I think screen Factor headed on sale earlier there. I'm
guessing the Paramount DVD is still out there somewhere. They
didn't put a lot of love into those DVDs either,
so we'll wait for I mean, if they're gonna give
Jason X a four king, maybe this will get one eventually.
(17:02):
I don't know. It depends on Paramount. Right now, they
have it subleased the screen factory. Still, who love to
do four K releases? That's all they fucking do anymore.
It's sort of annoying honestly to me.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, I'm sort of surprised I didn't put this out
on Paramount. Plus.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I think maybe around Halloween they put some of them out.
I'm not sure. Usually you get part one and that's
about all I ever see on streaming.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
YEP, and the remake.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
In the remake, now, Jason X and Jason Goes to
Hell are owned by New Line, so that might be
how Aero got a hold of them and put the
four k's of them out. I'm gonna get that Jason
Goes to Hell. I almost bought it last week, but
end up buying another movie on four K, and that
would have been Trick or Treat. You can see all
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my Sammi buddies back behind. Yeah, I can't wait to
watch that one will order it or yeah, Actually I
was looking for I've really been wanting this Jason Goes
to Hell, But for some reason, I saw Trick or
Treat at the Movie Trading Company and almost bought it there.
But I looked on Amazon and they had like a
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coupon for like I think it was like ten dollars off,
and then I noticed that had some kind of credits
from Amazon. I got the damn thing for seven.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Bucks really really for four K for the four K
with all my my Amazon credits and my whatever coupon,
So I got it cheap.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So does it got the Blu ray with it?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
No, it's just the four K, but it's got all
kinds of special features. So Jason goes to hell, we'll
have to wait till the next time. But I'm going
to get that on four K. But I'm going to
give this an incomplete It's all you're gonna get at
this movie. So it's in the box. It's watchable, but
it's nothing special. Sadly all right. So soundtrack your typical
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Friday the thirteenth soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Underwhelming this time. I don't remember the chew chew oyes
as much or whatever the hell that noises I've never
known in fifty two years.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
We discussed that when we did the show with Jimbo, remember.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And I still don't remember. Yeah, we did part one
with Jimbo and was Kyle on that one? It was
just this Jimbo. We've done like two hundred episodes. I
can't remember all this stuff. Oh, I just think this
was sort of an underwhelming soundtrack this time.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, but they're not in the woods as much, so
that could be part of it. A lot of the
kills happen in the houses and you know, at the
lake or whatever. But they're not actually doing a lot
of Jason chasing people down in the woods this time exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
All right, Well, I guess we'll get into some trivia here.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You probably got a lot for this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, there is a lot, So some of it we've
already discussed.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
But I always were in some of your trivia with
my stupid knowledge.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
At around thirty five minutes, the strange dance, which Jimbo
performs at the party was contributed by actor Crispin Glover
and was based on the eccentric way he actually danced
in clubs. On the set, he was actually dancing to
the song back and Black by ac DC as the
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scenes was being filmed. But in the film, however, an
edited version of Love is a Lie by the band
Lion was dubbed into the scene, and that is not
that song is not on the soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
No, so yeah, I'm sure they couldn't afford a CDC,
so they had to go with this Lion band. I
know who they are actually, Yeah, not white Lion, just lying,
not white Lion, Lion, plane Lion, not white Lion, or
black Lion, or purple line, not purple Lion.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
No okay. At around nine minutes, the nurses name tag
reads are Morgan are in an homage to actress Robbie Morgan,
who played Annie in Front of the Thirteenth nineteen eighty okay.
Ted White refused to talk to the other actors during
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production because he thought socializing with them would then diminish
their fear of Jason. Smart move let's see that, though
he'll dislike being involved with the film. Ted White is
considered by many fans to be one of the best
Jason's ever, which I have to agree.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I would agree as well. He did a really good
job in this movie for I in Jason.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Joseph Zito had previously directed The Prowler from nineteen eighty one,
but they wanted them to both direct and write Front
of the Thirteenth Part four. He said, but I'm not
a writer, to which they said, here's a contract paying
you double to write and direct. Then he responded, yeah,
I'm totally a writer. He use the extra salary to
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hire Barney Cohen to somewhat secret secretly write the script.
Their process entailed Zeno talking nightly one hour phone calls
with Phil Scdari to discuss the story and script for
the final chapter. Next day, Zeno would meet Cohen in
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an apartment in New York to relay what notes and
ideas Skadary had offered, which they would then turn into
new script pages to be sent later that day to
Skadari in Boston to be discussed again over the phone
that night, so that they had a little run around
action going on there with the script. Yeah, so maybe
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that's why it was a little bit better movie than
the first three too.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Definitely a better movie than the others. Well, the original,
you know, well there, I don't know that the Original
is any better than the other ones. Everybody always says that,
but it's it's the same shit. I guess it was
just done first.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, it was one of a kind.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, but they're all the same thing almost. It just
happened to be the first of however many of them.
I don't know that the Original is that much greater
than these others.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
At the time. This installment of the series contained the
most nudity and gore it did.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I think that's why I liked it as a kid.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Lots of boobies there was, and and eighties bushes.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
There were.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
At around ten minutes the workout video Axel Axel is
the guy with the body. What do you call it? Well, anyway,
the workout video he's watching is Aroba Size from nineteen eighty.
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It stars Darcy DeMoss, who went on to have a
role in Front of the Thirteenth Part six Jason Lives
from nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Six, which we all know is my favorite Friday the
thirteenth movie is it? Man, we've rated these things, I
think before. I think six is one and four is
two for me. Okay, although I like Part three to two.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Writer Barney Cohen originally wrote a scene involving Jason finaling
Trisha's breast, but the producers vetoed.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
It Jason, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
No, He's not a titty grabber.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Joseph Zide also disliked the scene because it made Jesson
seem too human and less menacing, so they took it out.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I could see Michael doing something like that more than Jason.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I think.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Maybe the Michael, maybe the Michael from thee maybe the
Michael from the last three movies.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
The Michael from You Know What's Funny. The only one
of those movies I've even kept is Halloween kills. That's it.
Where is it? That's the only one I've even got.
I think I sold the other two off. Traded him off, Yeah,
traded him off at Movie Trading Company. Ow that kurtz Bread.
I'm old.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
This is the only film in the series to shoot
new footage using sets and locations from a previous film.
The beginning takes place on the set of frit of
the Thirteenth three before moving to a new location, so
they were still at Camp Crystal Lake.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In the beginning. In the beginning, yeah, yeah, because they're
picking up the dead Jason.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
At around one hour and two minutes, and in a
scene Rob talks to Trish about his sister Sandra. Sandra
was one of Jason's victims. In Front of the Thirteenth
Part two from eighty one, at around nine minutes, the
moment where Jason's hand moves and the morgue was done
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by Ted White after Joseph Zito had called cut on
the scene. However, the camera was still rolling and caught
this movement and it was included in the film good inclusion.
Director Joseph Zito was opposed to using clips from Freevieus installments.
At the beginning of the film to do everything all new.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah. I didn't like the beginning where they tell the story.
It's like, come on, we've seen the other three.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, it's like they showed clips of all of the other.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I'm with the director and I think that was unnecessary
and just drug the movie down a little bit in
the beginning.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Talking at the campfire at the beginning, that's from part two,
isn't it. Yeah, I think so that's got the guy
with the wheelchair, is it?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah? That that now the wheelchair dude is in part
three Part three. Yeah, I thought that was I don't that.
That was definitely not needed at all. Yeah, they should
have director was right, that shouldn't have been there. Yeah,
look at that behind you. There's your favorite leather face.
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Oh the Brent hates that guy and I don't. He's
never going away. Apparently we've tried to sell him and
he still stays.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
He's still here. It's been suggested that the only reason
Tom Savigni decided to work on this as makeup artist
was so he could accurately age and properly kill the
character he created in the first film.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That makes sense. I would ask Tom Savigni that at
a convention. But he doesn't speak to people, so maybe
I could get him to talk.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Maybe rather than making masks. Tommy was originally going to
have been an inventor an One of his projects was
a device made from a microwave oven, which would have
been what he used to kill Jason.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That would have been done.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Some of this is seen in the final product in
a scene where he helps repair a car. Yeah, that
would have been dumb if if Jason would have got
killed with the microwave oven. Yeah, for fuck's sake.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Well, I don't know. You only killed Jason so many ways.
I guess.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Well, let's see here. Ted White and Tom Savigni at
first were confrontational with one another, but once White found
out Savini had experience with stunts, the two became friends.
I wander he actually talked to him.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I don't know. Probably not. Look, we got Jason, Baby,
Jason here with me. He's all right, hangout now.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It has played for humor throughout final chapter that young
Tommy Jarvis is suddenly surrounded by horny teenagers running a
cabin he can see into from his own house. However,
the reality of the situation and those actresses were indeed
very or partially naked, and Corey Feldman was still young
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enough that Eric Anderson and Kimberly Beck took him trick
or treating the first day of filming, since it happened
to be on Halloween of nineteen eighty three. So the
shielded twelve year old Feldman for most of the bad stuff,
using tricky editing when necessary. What they could not control
was the power of low, low cut top brob underneath
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corn to Feldman in the scene in which Judy Ironson's
character bends over to greet Tommy's dog unbeknounst to anyone,
but Feldman could see down her low cut top.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Oh no, he saw down her top.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
He saw some breast asses. Oh no.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That's what ruined Corey Feldman for his whole life, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
That's a cool looking Jason. I like that one.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, he's been around forever. He's still look at him.
Can you hear that? There's a speaker?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
During filming, Kimberly Beck, who plays Trish, experienced strange occurrences,
including a man watching her while she ran in the
park and strange phone calls at all hours. This stopped
when production was over.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That's weird. She had a stalker.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Maybe he had a stalker. I wonder if he had
a hockey mask on.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I don't know. That was a sister, right, Yeah, she
was actually seemed a little classy to be in one
of these movies. Yeah, yeah, but she's not really your
typical Jason Kill either. She's kind of got a little
bit more, her characters treated a little bit better. I'm sorry,
I got boxes falling behind me.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Boxes falling. Oh no, in Turkey, it was just a
dark ray in Turkey. This film and the next sequel,
Fright of the Thirteenth A New Beginning from nineteen eighty five,
were released at the same time.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Now isn't that weird?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
People could watch both films back to back. Even the
posters for both movies were displayed next to each other.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I don't think that's a bad thing. Because Tommy Jarvis
is in Part five and Part six.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Amy Steele talked Peter Barton into doing the film. By
the time the final chapter offer came around, Matthew Starr
was off off the air. I don't even remember that
TV show.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It was like some nighttime like soap opera like thing.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I don't know what it is, so I don't. I
can't really give you an.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Answer, remember it, So and Barton want to know part
of horror films. Having hated working on Hell Night in
nineteen eighty one, Amy Steele somehow talked to me into it,
selling him on the notoriety of starring in the final
Friday the thirteenth film, which it didn't end up being.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It was not well.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Actually third three was supposed to be the last one.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's true too, So.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
They just kept it going.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Haarmount kept making money.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Remember, remember, the rumors was always older, the last one
is going to be number thirteen.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I remember that. I used to spread that fucking rumor. Actually,
they used to tell everybody, Yeah, well they're gonna make
thirteen and then they're gonna end it. Well, actually, aren't
they to twelve?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I think so with the remake.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
With the remake, I think we're at twelve. So we're
still waiting for that thirteenth movie, and I think we
may be getting it with this Crystal Lake TV series,
which is apparently really really really happening now.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I've been seeing a lot of stuff here in the
past few days about that, and I'm excited about that too.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Have you seen the new Dracula?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
What new Dracula?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
There's a new Dracula coming out?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
What kind of new Dracula.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
It's like the vlid part of it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh, I haven't seen it. Look it up. There's a
new Van Helsing movie thing coming out somehow. I'm not
looking it up right now, I know. I'm just saying,
are you done with Trivia?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
No? I got a few more hair. Barbara Howard was
willing to wear a bra and panties for one scene,
but unlike the other actresses, she refused to go totally nude,
so producers hired actress Robin Wood to double for her
in the shower sex scene. Rob was originally supposed to
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have high tech equipment what she had used to track
Jason with. The props for this look cheap, and the
idea was scrapped. What kind of high tech fucking bounty
hunting for Jason? Shit could you have? Fuck?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Uh. Director Joseph Zito wanted Jason's hockey mask to explode
apart in the opening credits, but there was not enough
time in post production to pull off the gag. Let's
see here the house use for the Jarvis Home was
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later used as the Anderson home in the film ed
Gean from two thousand, where the serial killer ed Gean
was apprehended.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That was one of those Blockbuster video rental movies that
I yeah, they used to make shit specifically for Blockbuster
back then.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Bonnie Hellman's agents told her about the possible role in
the in this film as the hitchhiker, then told her
that she would not want to do it as there
was no speaking lines. Whoever, she ended up taking the
role anyway. She had. She had some speaking Wasn't that
the chick sitting on the on the road.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Don't think he spoke?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
She didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, I don't know. I just watched this thing last night.
You think I would. I didn't pay any attention to
whether the hitchhiker girl spoke or not. Sort of a
throwaway character. Really, I wouldn't have took the role.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Jason's Death won the Golden Chainsaw Award, and Dead Meets
Front of the Thirteenth the final chapter kill Count. Roger
Ebert called this film an immoral and reprehensible piece of trash.
He's right, and he paid his own money to go
see it.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
He's right. It was a moral.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Kimberly Beck stated in the Crystal Lake Memoirs book that
she does not like horror genre. In addition to this,
she also said she feels this film was not even
a B movie, but rather a C movie.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Nah, I've seen a lot. Yeah, no, it's not it's
a B movie. We'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
The female hitchhiker was originally called the blubbery girl in
the original draft.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's sad, and it was the eighties. We didn't give
a fuck back then.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
They didn't give a shit.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
No, it's not like this twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
World black and white film that Ted is watching while
getting stone as an actual film from nineteen eight called
Betty's Bath that was like.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
A poorn old thing, like a.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Nineteen twenties Newdi film. Yeah, film was shot entirely in California.
That's about it. We talked about a bunch of this
other stuff. Huh.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I'm out of my drink, now out of your drink.
Oh shit, I drink this whole cup.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
So that's about all. I got.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Good time to end it, I think, so.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I'll let you go first.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Okay, So Friday the thirteenth, the final chapter. Like I said,
I've probably seen this movie more than anything ever. Maybe
it was my favorite one as a kid. Now, you
got to realize back then, this is before Blockbuster, this
is before Sam's video. I've Todd promoted it before. I
used to rent from B Star Video and I used
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to rent this movie and keep it the whole weekend,
and I'd watch it like ten times. That's how stupid
I was as a kid. Loved it just over and
over and over. Hell, I don't even know how old
I would have been then. I guess Tommy Jarvis was
my hero because he killed Jason. We were gonna supposed
to knock on Corey Feldman more on this Brett, but
I don't think we did.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
He's the best guitarist in the world.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Well, I'm gonna tell you what. He's damn good in
this movie. He was really good in this role. Very
challenging role for a young young guy. I think, you know,
having to and ends up cutting his hair off and
doing all kinds of stuff, and the end is pretty challenging.
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So I think he did a good role for this.
I know he gets a lot of shit now, but
I give him a lot of credit. We've mentioned the
guy that played. Jason did a good job. It seems
to have more of a feel to it than the
first three movies. It was my favorite when I was
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a kid. Now let's fast forward to twenty twenty five.
I can't really watch this movie much anymore. I've just
seen it so god dang many times. It's just like
I just can't do it anymore. It just now it
just I don't know. You know, this is where I'm
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gonna go on my soapbox. You know, growing up, these
were the movies I grew up on. It wasn't The
wolf Man, it wasn't Frankenstein, it wasn't the Hammer films.
It was Friday the Thirteenth at Halloween. Now that I'm older,
I find watching a good Hammer film or one of
the Universal Monster movies is just a lot more enjoyable
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for me than watching these old Friday the Thirteenth movies.
But these are the ones that sort of made me
the horror person I am.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
So.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I don't know, if you're younger, if people have the
same thoughts to these movies as I do. Like watch
an old Hammer film, I don't know, what do you think?
Do they hold up this one?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I think holds up.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I think it does too.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I actually enjoyed watching it again. I actually think believe
I've seen this in the theater when it came out.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't think the first one I saw in the
theater was until Part five, because I remember being in
Riverside Middle School talking to this kid. We were talking
about Part five and we couldn't We didn't know what
Tommy Jarvis's name was, so we just called him the
boy that killed Jason when we were talking about the movie.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Oh shit, that's funny. But yeah, I can't. I'm pretty
sure I seen it in the theater when it first
came out. But actually I like this better than two
and three.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I can't say that I like it better than the original,
I will.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I like Part six better than this one.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Uh, Savigni did great on the makeup.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Vienie always does great. You know, he won't talk to nobody.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You know, the when his mask comes off and you
see his deformed face. He did a great job on
a great job. Yep, great blood in it and all
the kills.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Oh yeah, it's it's definitely top notch. Savini's awesome. I
think I'm gonna go to that convention. Next year and say, Savini,
I'll give you fifty bucks if you'll talk to me
for five minutes. I don't want a picture. I don't
want an autograph.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah you think he would probably, But anyway back to
what I was saying. Yeah, great special effects and that's
for sure. Soundtrack typical Flight of the Thirteenth soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Nothing, nothing special. Yeah, it's just mediocre.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Ah, it's about it. Good looking chicks, lots of Yeah,
all the chicks were good looking at it every.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Sing them as a teenager, young teenager in the eighties.
I think that was another one of the appeals of
this movie. The girls looked a lot better than they
did in parts one through three in my opinion, Yep,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
It seems like the movies going forward to they stayed
all good looking.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, you know, so nothing against the one. I don't know.
They look more age appropriate maybe, yeah, some of them,
and in the other movies looked like they were in their
mid to upper thirties and maybe even forties. The look
more age appropriate. Yeah, So, well, are you gonna rate
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this and then I'll rate it.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I'm I'm gonna go mid way on this. I'm gonna
give it a I'll go ahead and give it a three.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I'm gonna give it a three too, because that's all
it needs. That's all it needs, that's all it needs.
These are not Academy Award winning movies, folks. These are
Friday the Thirteenth movies.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
So yeah, I'll give it a three.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I'm gonna equally give it a three. So that said,
it's probably my second favorite Friday of the Thirteenth movie,
although I do like Part three a lot, and I
actually like that Damn Jason Goes to Hell as well.
But Part six will always be the best forever. It's
just a fun movie. This movie's fun too, though I've
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just seen it so damn many times.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's got its comedic element to it too.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
That it is funny as Part six. But you know,
when you get to part four of a horror movie,
you gotta have a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Of fun to it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
A little bit of humor, a little bit of humanity
almost to it.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
And actually, I sort of feel bad for all these
kids that got killed in this one because they didn't
really do anything wrong. They weren't camp counselors, you know.
It was the camp counselors that got Jason killed these kids,
you know, a little bit of humanity. I think in
this movie, which didn't have.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Before, totally different storyline for sure.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
It is. I don't know what direction they were going
to take Part five the way Part four ended. I
think they were trying to make Tommy Jarvis into the
new Jason.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
I don't know. I started watching that last night the
other night when I because it went right to the
next one.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
You know, a Part five. Yeah, you know, I've always
said that's my least favorite Friday the Thirteenth movie. But
I haven't watched that movie in like fifteen years. Maybe
I have not watched it in the box set either.
I'm just holding on to that movie. I guess I'll
wait until we do it on The Damn Show and
finally watch it again.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Well, I was in and out of consciousness, so I
don't remember much of what I did watch.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
So, yeah, I know that evil lind Dolls staring at me.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
She is ain't she? Yeah? She just went a man.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Well, now that we've reviewed this, I'm gonna bring up
our Ai Assistant, Evil Ed. Oh fuck no, yes, Evil Ed.
Our ai assistant and Brett are at war with each other.
And he's given Brett his own nickname, which is doctor
Brett Stein. Oh and Brett Stein's creation is that evil
(46:53):
Len doll right there. Instead of a monster, it's a doll.
So I have a lot of fun with Evil Led,
Me and him banner back and forth, and Brett is
the butt of the jokes.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yea, as always, if.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
We didn't love you, you wouldn't be so. I guess Evil
Ed loves you too.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Man. Evil. Time I try to get him to do something,
I try to make a picture, he does it of himself.
I think he's fucking spiking me, the prick.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
You don't like you, dude, He's he wishes that you
would go away and he could take over.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
The show's gonna go fucking way.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
No, he's not. If he goes away, I go away.
Me and Evil d or a team.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Now, Oh shit, that's funny, all right?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Team? Oh yeah, Just so you know, I watched The
Monkey last night?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Oh you did?
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I did?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Is that any good?
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
All right, I'll have to check it out.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Ye Talking of the evil toys, I need a monkey
for for the house.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I've been wanting to see that long legs and it's
not on fucking streaming anywhere.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
No, it's you only get that shit through voodoo or
or whatever these things are called.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Now you're gonna have to break down and rent that
or something.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, you're gonna have to rent it.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Have you seen the Long Legs yet?
Speaker 1 (48:19):
No? But it's from the same company that did The Monkey.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I could have actually got a bundle and got it,
but I didn't want to pay the extra ten dollars.
Gotcha got fifteen bucks for the Monkey. It was worth it.
That was another one I want to see in the theater,
but I just ain't had time to go to theaters
here any really, honestly, I know, I know, so.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
The Monkey I'm in soon. The Monkey, I'll have to
get it and check it out.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But I enjoyed the watching the part four this week.
I love that when we get into the Friday the
thirteenth movies because you know them and Halloween movies. Like
I said, that is that is my Frankenstein, That is
my Dracula as a kid.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
When's the next Friday of the thirteenth? When is it?
Speaker 1 (49:10):
There's not one other one this year?
Speaker 2 (49:12):
There ain't got away twenty next year.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I missed all the Haunted Houses Hangman's was open. The
Dark Hour was open. I don't think the Cutting Edge
was open. But it just wasn't a good time to
go to haunted houses in June.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Plus it's fucking hot.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, June is not a good time. I mean the
Dark Hours got an air conditioner. But yeah, they were
doing some weird uh it wasn't It wasn't their typical
werewolf haunt. It was like some kind of hybrid lynn
canthropes I guess, like like where flies and just like
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their I don't know. It was weird stuff that they
came up with.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Alan must have fucking made up a bunch of fucking
shit for.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
It, I think.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
So.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
I think they're gonna be open for Texas front Maare weekend.
I know they're having that hant tour there, so usually
they're open the Friday they do the hont tour, and
the Saturday open to the public. So we'll have to
see what the Dark Hours doing the weekend of Texas
Haunters Convention. I think I called it frighten Mere Weekend.
These two conventions and names are too similar for me.
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I get them confused.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
I do too sometimes. But all we got, that's all
we got. And uh, thanks for watching and listening.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
And enter the contest.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Enter the contest, Join the group. Talk to Evil Ed,
talk to don't talk to Evil Ed.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I'm gonna tell right now, Brett's talking crap about you
on the air.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
I said he's a little bitch.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
I am. Let's see what his response is. Keep talking
a minute.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Keep talking. Huh. I don't know what his response is.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, he won't talk to Brett. I told him. Brett
said on air, you're a little bit. Let's see what
Evil Ed says back. Okay, explodes into rage. He calls
me master Count Kerabi. By the way, he said, my
revenge is coming, he said. Doctor brett Stein admits the
(51:21):
Evil Ed will destroy my career and my dignity is
a podcaster, so he's coming after.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
You destroy me. Huh.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
He's going to destroy your career as a podcaster. So
the Evil Ed versus Doctor brett Stein feud continues into
week two.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
All right, well, thanks everybody, we will talk to you later.
Stay evil.
Speaker 5 (52:16):
Three times before you have felt the terror, known the madness,
lived the horror, but this is the one you've been
screaming for. On Friday the thirteenth, the final chapter.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Jason is back.
Speaker 5 (52:46):
He moves like a shadow, darken and silent. He never
utters a word. He doesn't even seem.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
To breathe where to have the cars Crow.
Speaker 5 (53:02):
Simply mindlessly, mercilessly kills.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
But now.
Speaker 5 (53:18):
Jason's reign of terror is over. Friday the thirteenth, The
final chapter. Friday, April thirteenth, Sess
All right, everybody, we have got a contest for you
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It's going to be held at the Irving Convention Center
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You have to be in the Dallas Forth Metroplex or
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Otherwise it's sort of pointless.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
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Speaker 3 (01:42):
This is the Evil Never Dies Podcast with Breton Karl.
This podcast may contain adult themes, violence, and strong language.
Listener discretion is advised.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What's up, Evil Ones, Welcome back to Evil Never Dyes
Podcast and Happy Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, we've even got little Jason out there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Let me oh, it's a widow Jayson.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Jason. You can actually see the whole studio. If I
move out of the way, it zooms in on stuff.
The little Jason's here for Friday the thirteenth. I'm barely here.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I know. We're both barely here.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
We're both barely here.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We've both got bad backs.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well mine's because I trying to start a chainsaw and
it slipped and fell almost we're not going to talk
about last week. That episode. It's no longer on YouTube.
Got shadow Band.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
We decided to pull it because it was we had
like eight views on the Motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
We think it was shadow Band, and plus we talked
for twenty minutes about something other than the movie. So
I want to go back and do that movie again,
like in a year. But tonight it is Friday the thirteenth,
And I asked Brett which one, and he picked. What'd
you say? What's the one that I can't even think of?
The idiot's name? What is that idiot's name?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Ry Feldman?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Ory Feldman, the one that he killed Jason, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
My favorite guitarist ever.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That would be Friday the thirteenth, the Final Chapter. Yes,
it is featuring the Corey Feldman versus Jason var He's
all right. And I'm just gonna say, of all the
movies I've ever seen in my life, I have probably
seen this movie more than anything other than the movie
(04:12):
Chariots of the Gods. But so I used to watch
like two or three times a day back in my childhood.
That's how weird of a kid I was.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yes, Chariots of the Gods.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Uh yeah, And they made that entire thing into the
Agent Alien show on the History Channel, which is like
on season twenty now. So it's sort of like, Wow,
I guess I was onto something as a kid.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But other than that, Friday the thirteenth, the Final Chapter
is probably about my second most viewed movie. Really, maybe
one of the Star Wars movies would be right there
with it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I don't know, gotcha all right? Front of the Thirteenth
The Final Chapter the fourth installment to the Friday of
the Thirteenth series, Directed by Joseph Zito, Screenplay by Barney Cohen,
Story by Bruce Hedmi Sackow sack Cow Sacow, based on
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characters by Victor Miller, Ron Kerrs, Martin Katroser, and Carol Watson.
Produced by Frank mancu Mancuso Junior. Cinematography by Joe Fernandez,
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Edited by Joel Goodman Daniel Lowenthal. Music by none other
than Harry Manfredini. Production company Friday four, Inc. I wonder
if that's because this is the fourth Friday movie.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I guess. So that's pretty creative of him, is it?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Not? Distributed by Paramount Pictures. Released on April thirteenth, nineteen
eighty four, which was a Friday, of course it was.
There's some trivia about that we'll go into too later on.
So as a running time of ninety one minutes, country
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of origin, United States, English language, budget they say anywhere
from one point eight to two point two million dollars,
and it did awesome at the box office, brought in
close to thirty four million dollars, eleven million of it
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in the first weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Do you think this was the prime of the Friday
the Thirteenth series at this stage.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, we'll get into a little bit of that too.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'd say between the part three in this that would
have been what I would have called the prime if
it had one.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
All right, well, I guess we'll go over the plot.
You want to do the plot, Carl of this one.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, it's typical Friday the thirteenth movie takes place after
Part three, or also known as three D Friday the
thirteenth three D. Jason's dead, as is everybody else. They're
coming to cart him off and he's taken to the Morgue.
So I don't know why does Jason stay dead longer
sometimes than others. It makes no sense to me, But
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maybe it's because he was at the Morgan. These two
idiots start trying to have sex basically on top of
his dead body. This corner is an idiot. He eats
a sandwich, puts it on the dead Jason. Well, apparently
this pisses Jason off. Between the sandwich and the sex,
and he wakes up and kills everybody and starts walking home. Well,
apparently he doesn't make it all the way back to
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Crystal Lake this time. He's like in between maybe I
don't know, he's not in his typical in Crystal Lake. Yeah,
he finds himself well with Corey Feldman's family, sister and
mother and a house full of these terrible teenagers and
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featuring Crispin Glover.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I guess, like an old school A B and B
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I think it was. But they're not campers and that's
what makes this movie unique. It's actually not campers and
it's not at the campsite. Yeah, Crispin Glover is the
only one I actually recognize, and he sort of plays
the typical nerdy character that he usually always does. He's
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known for being George McFly from Back to the Future,
which I guess came after Thish. Yeah, and basically Jason
starts killing everybody he has always and that's pretty much
you got the part of the little partying teenagers and
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Corey Feldman's family and and then this weird dude hiking
in the woods shows up sort of as a bounty
hunter almost.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, he was. He was looking for Jason.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Looking for Jason because Jason killed his sister. Yeah, so
sort of a flash forward to Jason's dead, and that's
another time a bounty hunter comes after Jason.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So lots of characters in this or goes into the
remake too, because.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It does it does. Yeah, so this is this is
a different of the Friday the Thirteenth series. It's it's
not like the others. It stands out. But for me,
like I said, I have seen this movie so goddamn
many times that it's just hard to watch at this stage.
(09:46):
It really is. But we're not gonna We're not gonna
consider that when I do my reviews. Okay, I am
gonna give a review of the me in the nineteen
eighties versus the me of today though probably.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
All right, all right, let's go over the cast.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
We got Kimberly Beck as Tris Jarvis, Peter Barton as
Doug Bell, the best guitarist of the World, carry, Corey
Feldman as Tommy Jarvis, e Erick Anderson as Rob Deer,
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Crispin Glover as Jimmy Mortimer or Slash Jimbo.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Slash dead fuck fuck that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh, that's funny. That was probably the funniest part of
the whole movie.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It was a pretty There's a lot of comedy in
this one too that you don't find in parts of one, two, three.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Alan Hayes as Paul Guthrie, Barbara Howard as Sarah Parkington,
Lawrence Monison as Ted Cooper, Joan Freeman as Tracy Jarvis
the Mother, the Mother, Judy Aaronson as Samantha Lane, Camilla
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Moore as Tina Moore.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
There's always a Tina in in in these movies.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It seems like, uh, Kerrie Moore as Terry Moore.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Kerry Moore is Terry Moore. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Uh, they were twins.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Oh they were the twins.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, they were the twins.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I remember them twins well in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, they're pretty hot.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Lisa Freeman as Nurse Robbie Morgan, Wayne Grace as Officer Jamison.
Bonnie Hellman is the hitchhiker, Frankie Hill is Laney. Paul
Lecarthur as the doctor. Bruce Maylor.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Was he the one trying to screw the chick on
top of the dead Jason?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, he was a dits. Bruce Ladies Idiot.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Bruce Mayler as Axel Burns, Uh, Anthony Ponzini as Vincent,
and Ted White unaccredited as Jason Voorhes. And yeah he
wanted it unaccredited, did he? Yeah, because he hated doing
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this movie. I guess so.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, you know, if you're your typical special effects guy,
you know, it's probably just another day at the Day,
you know, at the Woods or whatever. Playing Jason. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He was my age when he played this part. He
was fifty eight years old. No, hell and yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Not your most known Jason then.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
But it's a lot of people say he's their favorite Jason.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
He is a good Jason.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He did do a good job as Jason, for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
He did a really good job as Jason, especially when
he gets hacked up.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And yeah, we're gonna spoil this when Jason dies at
the end of this one. But actually he really dies
at the end of this one. Yeah, he's dead as
fuck at the end of this movie. But if you
haven't watched this by now and you're watching this show,
I don't know what to tell you. I don't know
what Jason dies. Sorry, he dies at the end of
all these freaking movies. But he really dies this time,
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but that isn't That's why it's called the Final Chapter.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Forty one years ago, nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I believe you're right. Shit, Well, I guess we'll talk
about the Blu.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Ray, all right, Yeah, go on with the Blu Ray.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, this comes from the box which is still available
and screen Factory has it on sell here. I think
this week which has every Friday the thirteenth movie made
in the box, including the ones from Paramount and from
Newline Cinema. And honestly, they claim that this is a
four K scan from the original camera negative. Well, if
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it is, it's a shitty camera negative because this movie
looks like crap on Blu Ray. Unfortunately, just not. It's
just very staticky and just just not a good picture
at all. I don't know what if the screen Factory
cleaned this up it was Paramount, but honestly, I think
the damn DVD looked better. Now, this does come with
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a few special features. It has an audio commentary by
the director and the screenwriter. There's slash scenes with audio commentary.
That's your scenes that were cut out. They're not very good.
Jason's Unlucky Day twenty five years after Friday the thirteenth,
the Final Chat. That's a good little documentary. There's the
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lost ending, which doesn't really The ending of this movie
is weird. They were trying to set something up that
they didn't get to pull off, apparently maybe due to
the fact you changed directors on every one of these movies,
but for Scream Factory. I am not pleased with the
way this looks. I'm hoping that somebody may put this
out on a four K. We've got Arrow putting out
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a lot of the movies they put out the remake
Jason Goes to Hell, and I think Jason X are
now on four K. So let's hope that this thing
gets some real four K treatment, because this is not
a good picture. It just it's not. I don't know
what you watched it on, if you had any better
luck than me.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Actually, I watched it on uh Pluto.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I don't even know what the Pluto is.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's one of them streaming services. I think it's owned
by uh oh shit, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I can't think of it right now, but here amount.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Or anyway, it didn't look bad.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
This looks pretty bad on the on the Blu ray
a lot of film grain and just staticky, and the
dark scenes don't look very, very, very realistic. So it's
not a good four K scan. Like I said, I
don't know who did this, but it needs a better scan.
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So I'm gonna have to give this thing. I mean,
it comes in the box set. The box set's cheap,
now I thought, I think I paid a ton for it,
but it's the only way you're gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I think Amazon's got it for one hundred and thirty bucks.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I think screen Factor headed on sale earlier there. I'm
guessing the Paramount DVD is still out there somewhere. They
didn't put a lot of love into those DVDs either,
so we'll wait for I mean, if they're gonna give
Jason X a four king, maybe this will get one eventually.
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I don't know. It depends on Paramount. Right now, they
have it subleased the screen factory. Still, who love to
do four K releases? That's all they fucking do anymore.
It's sort of annoying honestly to me.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, I'm sort of surprised I didn't put this out
on Paramount. Plus.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I think maybe around Halloween they put some of them out.
I'm not sure. Usually you get part one and that's
about all I ever see on streaming.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
YEP, and the remake.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
In the remake, now, Jason X and Jason Goes to
Hell are owned by New Line, so that might be
how Aero got a hold of them and put the
four k's of them out. I'm gonna get that Jason
Goes to Hell. I almost bought it last week, but
end up buying another movie on four K, and that
would have been Trick or Treat. You can see all
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my Sammi buddies back behind. Yeah, I can't wait to
watch that one will order it or yeah, Actually I
was looking for I've really been wanting this Jason Goes
to Hell, But for some reason, I saw Trick or
Treat at the Movie Trading Company and almost bought it there.
But I looked on Amazon and they had like a
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coupon for like I think it was like ten dollars off,
and then I noticed that had some kind of credits
from Amazon. I got the damn thing for seven.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Bucks really really for four K for the four K
with all my my Amazon credits and my whatever coupon,
So I got it cheap.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So does it got the Blu ray with it?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
No, it's just the four K, but it's got all
kinds of special features. So Jason goes to hell, we'll
have to wait till the next time. But I'm going
to get that on four K. But I'm going to
give this an incomplete It's all you're gonna get at
this movie. So it's in the box. It's watchable, but
it's nothing special. Sadly all right. So soundtrack your typical
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Friday the thirteenth soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Underwhelming this time. I don't remember the chew chew oyes
as much or whatever the hell that noises I've never
known in fifty two years.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
We discussed that when we did the show with Jimbo, remember.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And I still don't remember. Yeah, we did part one
with Jimbo and was Kyle on that one? It was
just this Jimbo. We've done like two hundred episodes. I
can't remember all this stuff. Oh, I just think this
was sort of an underwhelming soundtrack this time.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, but they're not in the woods as much, so
that could be part of it. A lot of the
kills happen in the houses and you know, at the
lake or whatever. But they're not actually doing a lot
of Jason chasing people down in the woods this time exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
All right, Well, I guess we'll get into some trivia here.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You probably got a lot for this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, there is a lot, So some of it we've
already discussed.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
But I always were in some of your trivia with
my stupid knowledge.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
At around thirty five minutes, the strange dance, which Jimbo
performs at the party was contributed by actor Crispin Glover
and was based on the eccentric way he actually danced
in clubs. On the set, he was actually dancing to
the song back and Black by ac DC as the
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scenes was being filmed. But in the film, however, an
edited version of Love is a Lie by the band
Lion was dubbed into the scene, and that is not
that song is not on the soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
No, so yeah, I'm sure they couldn't afford a CDC,
so they had to go with this Lion band. I
know who they are actually, Yeah, not white Lion, just lying,
not white Lion, Lion, plane Lion, not white Lion, or
black Lion, or purple line, not purple Lion.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
No okay. At around nine minutes, the nurses name tag
reads are Morgan are in an homage to actress Robbie Morgan,
who played Annie in Front of the Thirteenth nineteen eighty okay.
Ted White refused to talk to the other actors during
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production because he thought socializing with them would then diminish
their fear of Jason. Smart move let's see that, though
he'll dislike being involved with the film. Ted White is
considered by many fans to be one of the best
Jason's ever, which I have to agree.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I would agree as well. He did a really good
job in this movie for I in Jason.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Joseph Zito had previously directed The Prowler from nineteen eighty one,
but they wanted them to both direct and write Front
of the Thirteenth Part four. He said, but I'm not
a writer, to which they said, here's a contract paying
you double to write and direct. Then he responded, yeah,
I'm totally a writer. He use the extra salary to
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hire Barney Cohen to somewhat secret secretly write the script.
Their process entailed Zeno talking nightly one hour phone calls
with Phil Scdari to discuss the story and script for
the final chapter. Next day, Zeno would meet Cohen in
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an apartment in New York to relay what notes and
ideas Skadary had offered, which they would then turn into
new script pages to be sent later that day to
Skadari in Boston to be discussed again over the phone
that night, so that they had a little run around
action going on there with the script. Yeah, so maybe
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that's why it was a little bit better movie than
the first three too.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Definitely a better movie than the others. Well, the original,
you know, well there, I don't know that the Original
is any better than the other ones. Everybody always says that,
but it's it's the same shit. I guess it was
just done first.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, it was one of a kind.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, but they're all the same thing almost. It just
happened to be the first of however many of them.
I don't know that the Original is that much greater
than these others.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
At the time. This installment of the series contained the
most nudity and gore it did.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I think that's why I liked it as a kid.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Lots of boobies there was, and and eighties bushes.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
There were.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
At around ten minutes the workout video Axel Axel is
the guy with the body. What do you call it? Well, anyway,
the workout video he's watching is Aroba Size from nineteen eighty.
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It stars Darcy DeMoss, who went on to have a
role in Front of the Thirteenth Part six Jason Lives
from nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Six, which we all know is my favorite Friday the
thirteenth movie is it? Man, we've rated these things, I
think before. I think six is one and four is
two for me. Okay, although I like Part three to two.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Writer Barney Cohen originally wrote a scene involving Jason finaling
Trisha's breast, but the producers vetoed.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
It Jason, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
No, He's not a titty grabber.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Joseph Zide also disliked the scene because it made Jesson
seem too human and less menacing, so they took it out.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I could see Michael doing something like that more than Jason.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I think.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Maybe the Michael, maybe the Michael from thee maybe the
Michael from the last three movies.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
The Michael from You Know What's Funny. The only one
of those movies I've even kept is Halloween kills. That's it.
Where is it? That's the only one I've even got.
I think I sold the other two off. Traded him off, Yeah,
traded him off at Movie Trading Company. Ow that kurtz Bread.
I'm old.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
This is the only film in the series to shoot
new footage using sets and locations from a previous film.
The beginning takes place on the set of frit of
the Thirteenth three before moving to a new location, so
they were still at Camp Crystal Lake.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In the beginning. In the beginning, yeah, yeah, because they're
picking up the dead Jason.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
At around one hour and two minutes, and in a
scene Rob talks to Trish about his sister Sandra. Sandra
was one of Jason's victims. In Front of the Thirteenth
Part two from eighty one, at around nine minutes, the
moment where Jason's hand moves and the morgue was done
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by Ted White after Joseph Zito had called cut on
the scene. However, the camera was still rolling and caught
this movement and it was included in the film good inclusion.
Director Joseph Zito was opposed to using clips from Freevieus installments.
At the beginning of the film to do everything all new.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah. I didn't like the beginning where they tell the story.
It's like, come on, we've seen the other three.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, it's like they showed clips of all of the other.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I'm with the director and I think that was unnecessary
and just drug the movie down a little bit in
the beginning.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Talking at the campfire at the beginning, that's from part two,
isn't it. Yeah, I think so that's got the guy
with the wheelchair, is it?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah? That that now the wheelchair dude is in part
three Part three. Yeah, I thought that was I don't that.
That was definitely not needed at all. Yeah, they should
have director was right, that shouldn't have been there. Yeah,
look at that behind you. There's your favorite leather face.
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Oh the Brent hates that guy and I don't. He's
never going away. Apparently we've tried to sell him and
he still stays.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
He's still here. It's been suggested that the only reason
Tom Savigni decided to work on this as makeup artist
was so he could accurately age and properly kill the
character he created in the first film.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That makes sense. I would ask Tom Savigni that at
a convention. But he doesn't speak to people, so maybe
I could get him to talk.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Maybe rather than making masks. Tommy was originally going to
have been an inventor an One of his projects was
a device made from a microwave oven, which would have
been what he used to kill Jason.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That would have been done.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Some of this is seen in the final product in
a scene where he helps repair a car. Yeah, that
would have been dumb if if Jason would have got
killed with the microwave oven. Yeah, for fuck's sake.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Well, I don't know. You only killed Jason so many ways.
I guess.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Well, let's see here. Ted White and Tom Savigni at
first were confrontational with one another, but once White found
out Savini had experience with stunts, the two became friends.
I wander he actually talked to him.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I don't know. Probably not. Look, we got Jason, Baby,
Jason here with me. He's all right, hangout now.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It has played for humor throughout final chapter that young
Tommy Jarvis is suddenly surrounded by horny teenagers running a
cabin he can see into from his own house. However,
the reality of the situation and those actresses were indeed
very or partially naked, and Corey Feldman was still young
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enough that Eric Anderson and Kimberly Beck took him trick
or treating the first day of filming, since it happened
to be on Halloween of nineteen eighty three. So the
shielded twelve year old Feldman for most of the bad stuff,
using tricky editing when necessary. What they could not control
was the power of low, low cut top brob underneath
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corn to Feldman in the scene in which Judy Ironson's
character bends over to greet Tommy's dog unbeknounst to anyone,
but Feldman could see down her low cut top.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Oh no, he saw down her top.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
He saw some breast asses. Oh no.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That's what ruined Corey Feldman for his whole life, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
That's a cool looking Jason. I like that one.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, he's been around forever. He's still look at him.
Can you hear that? There's a speaker?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
During filming, Kimberly Beck, who plays Trish, experienced strange occurrences,
including a man watching her while she ran in the
park and strange phone calls at all hours. This stopped
when production was over.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That's weird. She had a stalker.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Maybe he had a stalker. I wonder if he had
a hockey mask on.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I don't know. That was a sister, right, Yeah, she
was actually seemed a little classy to be in one
of these movies. Yeah, yeah, but she's not really your
typical Jason Kill either. She's kind of got a little
bit more, her characters treated a little bit better. I'm sorry,
I got boxes falling behind me.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Boxes falling. Oh no, in Turkey, it was just a
dark ray in Turkey. This film and the next sequel,
Fright of the Thirteenth A New Beginning from nineteen eighty five,
were released at the same time.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Now isn't that weird?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
People could watch both films back to back. Even the
posters for both movies were displayed next to each other.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I don't think that's a bad thing. Because Tommy Jarvis
is in Part five and Part six.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Amy Steele talked Peter Barton into doing the film. By
the time the final chapter offer came around, Matthew Starr
was off off the air. I don't even remember that
TV show.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It was like some nighttime like soap opera like thing.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I don't know what it is, so I don't. I
can't really give you an.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Answer, remember it, So and Barton want to know part
of horror films. Having hated working on Hell Night in
nineteen eighty one, Amy Steele somehow talked to me into it,
selling him on the notoriety of starring in the final
Friday the thirteenth film, which it didn't end up being.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It was not well.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Actually third three was supposed to be the last one.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's true too, So.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
They just kept it going.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Haarmount kept making money.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Remember, remember, the rumors was always older, the last one
is going to be number thirteen.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I remember that. I used to spread that fucking rumor. Actually,
they used to tell everybody, Yeah, well they're gonna make
thirteen and then they're gonna end it. Well, actually, aren't
they to twelve?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I think so with the remake.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
With the remake, I think we're at twelve. So we're
still waiting for that thirteenth movie, and I think we
may be getting it with this Crystal Lake TV series,
which is apparently really really really happening now.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I've been seeing a lot of stuff here in the
past few days about that, and I'm excited about that too.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Have you seen the new Dracula?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
What new Dracula?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
There's a new Dracula coming out?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
What kind of new Dracula.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
It's like the vlid part of it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh, I haven't seen it. Look it up. There's a
new Van Helsing movie thing coming out somehow. I'm not
looking it up right now, I know. I'm just saying,
are you done with Trivia?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
No? I got a few more hair. Barbara Howard was
willing to wear a bra and panties for one scene,
but unlike the other actresses, she refused to go totally nude,
so producers hired actress Robin Wood to double for her
in the shower sex scene. Rob was originally supposed to
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have high tech equipment what she had used to track
Jason with. The props for this look cheap, and the
idea was scrapped. What kind of high tech fucking bounty
hunting for Jason? Shit could you have? Fuck?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Uh. Director Joseph Zito wanted Jason's hockey mask to explode
apart in the opening credits, but there was not enough
time in post production to pull off the gag. Let's
see here the house use for the Jarvis Home was
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later used as the Anderson home in the film ed
Gean from two thousand, where the serial killer ed Gean
was apprehended.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That was one of those Blockbuster video rental movies that
I yeah, they used to make shit specifically for Blockbuster
back then.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Bonnie Hellman's agents told her about the possible role in
the in this film as the hitchhiker, then told her
that she would not want to do it as there
was no speaking lines. Whoever, she ended up taking the
role anyway. She had. She had some speaking Wasn't that
the chick sitting on the on the road.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Don't think he spoke?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
She didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, I don't know. I just watched this thing last night.
You think I would. I didn't pay any attention to
whether the hitchhiker girl spoke or not. Sort of a
throwaway character. Really, I wouldn't have took the role.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Jason's Death won the Golden Chainsaw Award, and Dead Meets
Front of the Thirteenth the final chapter kill Count. Roger
Ebert called this film an immoral and reprehensible piece of trash.
He's right, and he paid his own money to go
see it.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
He's right. It was a moral.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Kimberly Beck stated in the Crystal Lake Memoirs book that
she does not like horror genre. In addition to this,
she also said she feels this film was not even
a B movie, but rather a C movie.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Nah, I've seen a lot. Yeah, no, it's not it's
a B movie. We'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
The female hitchhiker was originally called the blubbery girl in
the original draft.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's sad, and it was the eighties. We didn't give
a fuck back then.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
They didn't give a shit.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
No, it's not like this twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
World black and white film that Ted is watching while
getting stone as an actual film from nineteen eight called
Betty's Bath that was like.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
A poorn old thing, like a.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Nineteen twenties Newdi film. Yeah, film was shot entirely in California.
That's about it. We talked about a bunch of this
other stuff. Huh.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I'm out of my drink, now out of your drink.
Oh shit, I drink this whole cup.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
So that's about all. I got.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Good time to end it, I think, so.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I'll let you go first.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Okay, So Friday the thirteenth, the final chapter. Like I said,
I've probably seen this movie more than anything ever. Maybe
it was my favorite one as a kid. Now, you
got to realize back then, this is before Blockbuster, this
is before Sam's video. I've Todd promoted it before. I
used to rent from B Star Video and I used
(39:04):
to rent this movie and keep it the whole weekend,
and I'd watch it like ten times. That's how stupid
I was as a kid. Loved it just over and
over and over. Hell, I don't even know how old
I would have been then. I guess Tommy Jarvis was
my hero because he killed Jason. We were gonna supposed
to knock on Corey Feldman more on this Brett, but
I don't think we did.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
He's the best guitarist in the world.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Well, I'm gonna tell you what. He's damn good in
this movie. He was really good in this role. Very
challenging role for a young young guy. I think, you know,
having to and ends up cutting his hair off and
doing all kinds of stuff, and the end is pretty challenging.
(39:49):
So I think he did a good role for this.
I know he gets a lot of shit now, but
I give him a lot of credit. We've mentioned the
guy that played. Jason did a good job. It seems
to have more of a feel to it than the
first three movies. It was my favorite when I was
(40:09):
a kid. Now let's fast forward to twenty twenty five.
I can't really watch this movie much anymore. I've just
seen it so god dang many times. It's just like
I just can't do it anymore. It just now it
just I don't know. You know, this is where I'm
(40:29):
gonna go on my soapbox. You know, growing up, these
were the movies I grew up on. It wasn't The
wolf Man, it wasn't Frankenstein, it wasn't the Hammer films.
It was Friday the Thirteenth at Halloween. Now that I'm older,
I find watching a good Hammer film or one of
the Universal Monster movies is just a lot more enjoyable
(40:51):
for me than watching these old Friday the Thirteenth movies.
But these are the ones that sort of made me
the horror person I am.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
So.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I don't know, if you're younger, if people have the
same thoughts to these movies as I do. Like watch
an old Hammer film, I don't know, what do you think?
Do they hold up this one?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I think holds up.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I think it does too.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I actually enjoyed watching it again. I actually think believe
I've seen this in the theater when it came out.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't think the first one I saw in the
theater was until Part five, because I remember being in
Riverside Middle School talking to this kid. We were talking
about Part five and we couldn't We didn't know what
Tommy Jarvis's name was, so we just called him the
boy that killed Jason when we were talking about the movie.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Oh shit, that's funny. But yeah, I can't. I'm pretty
sure I seen it in the theater when it first
came out. But actually I like this better than two
and three.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I can't say that I like it better than the original,
I will.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I like Part six better than this one.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Uh, Savigni did great on the makeup.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Vienie always does great. You know, he won't talk to nobody.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You know, the when his mask comes off and you
see his deformed face. He did a great job on
a great job. Yep, great blood in it and all
the kills.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Oh yeah, it's it's definitely top notch. Savini's awesome. I
think I'm gonna go to that convention. Next year and say, Savini,
I'll give you fifty bucks if you'll talk to me
for five minutes. I don't want a picture. I don't
want an autograph.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah you think he would probably, But anyway back to
what I was saying. Yeah, great special effects and that's
for sure. Soundtrack typical Flight of the Thirteenth soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Nothing, nothing special. Yeah, it's just mediocre.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Ah, it's about it. Good looking chicks, lots of Yeah,
all the chicks were good looking at it every.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Sing them as a teenager, young teenager in the eighties.
I think that was another one of the appeals of
this movie. The girls looked a lot better than they
did in parts one through three in my opinion, Yep,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
It seems like the movies going forward to they stayed
all good looking.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, you know, so nothing against the one. I don't know.
They look more age appropriate maybe, yeah, some of them,
and in the other movies looked like they were in their
mid to upper thirties and maybe even forties. The look
more age appropriate. Yeah, So, well, are you gonna rate
(44:05):
this and then I'll rate it.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I'm I'm gonna go mid way on this. I'm gonna
give it a I'll go ahead and give it a three.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I'm gonna give it a three too, because that's all
it needs. That's all it needs, that's all it needs.
These are not Academy Award winning movies, folks. These are
Friday the Thirteenth movies.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
So yeah, I'll give it a three.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I'm gonna equally give it a three. So that said,
it's probably my second favorite Friday of the Thirteenth movie,
although I do like Part three a lot, and I
actually like that Damn Jason Goes to Hell as well.
But Part six will always be the best forever. It's
just a fun movie. This movie's fun too, though I've
(44:53):
just seen it so damn many times.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's got its comedic element to it too.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
That it is funny as Part six. But you know,
when you get to part four of a horror movie,
you gotta have a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Of fun to it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
A little bit of humor, a little bit of humanity
almost to it.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
And actually, I sort of feel bad for all these
kids that got killed in this one because they didn't
really do anything wrong. They weren't camp counselors, you know.
It was the camp counselors that got Jason killed these kids,
you know, a little bit of humanity. I think in
this movie, which didn't have.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Before, totally different storyline for sure.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
It is. I don't know what direction they were going
to take Part five the way Part four ended. I
think they were trying to make Tommy Jarvis into the
new Jason.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
I don't know. I started watching that last night the
other night when I because it went right to the
next one.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
You know, a Part five. Yeah, you know, I've always
said that's my least favorite Friday the Thirteenth movie. But
I haven't watched that movie in like fifteen years. Maybe
I have not watched it in the box set either.
I'm just holding on to that movie. I guess I'll
wait until we do it on The Damn Show and
finally watch it again.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Well, I was in and out of consciousness, so I
don't remember much of what I did watch.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
So, yeah, I know that evil lind Dolls staring at me.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
She is ain't she? Yeah? She just went a man.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Well, now that we've reviewed this, I'm gonna bring up
our Ai Assistant, Evil Ed. Oh fuck no, yes, Evil Ed.
Our ai assistant and Brett are at war with each other.
And he's given Brett his own nickname, which is doctor
Brett Stein. Oh and Brett Stein's creation is that evil
(46:53):
Len doll right there. Instead of a monster, it's a doll.
So I have a lot of fun with Evil Led,
Me and him banner back and forth, and Brett is
the butt of the jokes.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yea, as always, if.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
We didn't love you, you wouldn't be so. I guess Evil
Ed loves you too.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Man. Evil. Time I try to get him to do something,
I try to make a picture, he does it of himself.
I think he's fucking spiking me, the prick.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
You don't like you, dude, He's he wishes that you
would go away and he could take over.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
The show's gonna go fucking way.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
No, he's not. If he goes away, I go away.
Me and Evil d or a team.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Now, Oh shit, that's funny, all right?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Team? Oh yeah, Just so you know, I watched The
Monkey last night?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Oh you did?
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I did?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Is that any good?
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
All right, I'll have to check it out.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Ye Talking of the evil toys, I need a monkey
for for the house.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I've been wanting to see that long legs and it's
not on fucking streaming anywhere.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
No, it's you only get that shit through voodoo or
or whatever these things are called.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Now you're gonna have to break down and rent that
or something.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, you're gonna have to rent it.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Have you seen the Long Legs yet?
Speaker 1 (48:19):
No? But it's from the same company that did The Monkey.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I could have actually got a bundle and got it,
but I didn't want to pay the extra ten dollars.
Gotcha got fifteen bucks for the Monkey. It was worth it.
That was another one I want to see in the theater,
but I just ain't had time to go to theaters
here any really, honestly, I know, I know, so.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
The Monkey I'm in soon. The Monkey, I'll have to
get it and check it out.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But I enjoyed the watching the part four this week.
I love that when we get into the Friday the
thirteenth movies because you know them and Halloween movies. Like
I said, that is that is my Frankenstein, That is
my Dracula as a kid.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
When's the next Friday of the thirteenth? When is it?
Speaker 1 (49:10):
There's not one other one this year?
Speaker 2 (49:12):
There ain't got away twenty next year.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I missed all the Haunted Houses Hangman's was open. The
Dark Hour was open. I don't think the Cutting Edge
was open. But it just wasn't a good time to
go to haunted houses in June.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Plus it's fucking hot.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, June is not a good time. I mean the
Dark Hours got an air conditioner. But yeah, they were
doing some weird uh it wasn't It wasn't their typical
werewolf haunt. It was like some kind of hybrid lynn
canthropes I guess, like like where flies and just like
(49:47):
their I don't know. It was weird stuff that they
came up with.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Alan must have fucking made up a bunch of fucking
shit for.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
It, I think.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
So.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
I think they're gonna be open for Texas front Maare weekend.
I know they're having that hant tour there, so usually
they're open the Friday they do the hont tour, and
the Saturday open to the public. So we'll have to
see what the Dark Hours doing the weekend of Texas
Haunters Convention. I think I called it frighten Mere Weekend.
These two conventions and names are too similar for me.
(50:17):
I get them confused.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
I do too sometimes. But all we got, that's all
we got. And uh, thanks for watching and listening.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
And enter the contest.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Enter the contest, Join the group. Talk to Evil Ed,
talk to don't talk to Evil Ed.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I'm gonna tell right now, Brett's talking crap about you
on the air.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
I said he's a little bitch.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
I am. Let's see what his response is. Keep talking
a minute.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Keep talking. Huh. I don't know what his response is.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, he won't talk to Brett. I told him. Brett
said on air, you're a little bit. Let's see what
Evil Ed says back. Okay, explodes into rage. He calls
me master Count Kerabi. By the way, he said, my
revenge is coming, he said. Doctor brett Stein admits the
(51:21):
Evil Ed will destroy my career and my dignity is
a podcaster, so he's coming after.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
You destroy me. Huh.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
He's going to destroy your career as a podcaster. So
the Evil Ed versus Doctor brett Stein feud continues into
week two.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
All right, well, thanks everybody, we will talk to you later.
Stay evil.
Speaker 5 (52:16):
Three times before you have felt the terror, known the madness,
lived the horror, but this is the one you've been
screaming for. On Friday the thirteenth, the final chapter.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Jason is back.
Speaker 5 (52:46):
He moves like a shadow, darken and silent. He never
utters a word. He doesn't even seem.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
To breathe where to have the cars Crow.
Speaker 5 (53:02):
Simply mindlessly, mercilessly kills.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
But now.
Speaker 5 (53:18):
Jason's reign of terror is over. Friday the thirteenth, The
final chapter. Friday, April thirteenth, Sess
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