April 20, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Evil Never Dies Podcast with Breton Carl.
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Evil Never Dies Podcast.
I don't even know what fuck an episode or even on.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I have no clue.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I quit keeping cow because it automatically does it when
I do the audio portion of it.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I don't even look at that shit anymore. Three hundred
and twenty two or something. I don't know, gotcha. So yeah,
shitty ass weekend so far. It is the egg hunt,
got fucking rained out and sicknesses, and somebody's pissing blood.
(01:31):
Somebody's pissing blood and razor blades.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Razor blades.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
That's what it feels like. Dude. It's no good.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
If I were ever to piss blood, I'd probably just
pass out or some shit. For you, it just seems
like a daily thing almost.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I got home from work yesterday. I don't know what's
going on. I haven't felt no kidney stone or nothing
like moving. And all of a sudden, I come home
and take a piss, and I'm pissing blood and razor blades.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Sounds like a slayer song, it does, don't it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, But yeah, I got another kidney stone, which I
knew I had one, but it decided it's going to try.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
To show it not have one.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Spoils only had one five millimeter one left in my kidneys,
so I think they lied to you. But they can't
see the one. The shit that's you know, built up
on the walls of your kidneys, they can't see all
that shit. They can just see when a piece of
it breaks off. So yeah, I don't know why that is,
(02:45):
but that's what I was told. But anyway, I had
a five millimeter one and now it's trying to show
it rear its ugly head. It must be sharp if
I'm pissing blood, so I guess so good. I'm sure
everybody wants to hear about my fucking kimney stone problem.
(03:08):
But tonight we are doing the thing from another world,
or most people just call it the original the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, originally it was going to be the John Carpenter thing, and.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, we were originally gonna do the John Carpenter one,
but Carl said he hated it, so.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I do hate it. We'll do it later if you
want to, but not now.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So we're gonna do the original from nineteen fifty one.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It's so old. It was an RKO movie.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah. It was directed by Christian Niby, screenplay by Charles Letter, uncredited,
Hower Hawks and Ben Hecked. I guess there's sort of
a thing where I guess Howard Hawks supposedly directed most
(04:09):
of it or whatever. There's some we'll get into that later, okay.
Based on a novella by John W. Campbell Junior called
Who Goes There from nineteen thirty eight, produced by Edward
(04:29):
Lasker and Howard Hawks. Cinematography by Russell Harlan, edited by
Roland Gross, music by Dimitri Tiomkin. I guess that's how
you say it. Music was pretty cool in it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Actually, it's a good soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's like your this must have been like this actually
sort of maybe was one of the bigger start of
the science fiction UFO movies to start out, you know,
and a lot of people have covered that type of
(05:13):
music with the Yeah, I think with the size or whatever.
This movie was.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Majorly ripped off by everybody.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
YEP. Production company Winchester Pictures Corporation.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And it is the Winchester that has the guns YEP.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Distributed by RKO Radio Pictures. Release date was April twenty seventh,
nineteen fifty one. Has a running time of eighty seven minutes.
United States country of origin, English language. And I couldn't
find a how much it costs to make this, but
(05:58):
between the box office and the United States rental, it's
brought in one point nine to five million, so that's
pretty good. How many years ago was that? Eighty years almost?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't think r KAO was a big horror producing
studio either, so they did.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They did like a bunch of them old war movie yeah,
and stuff like that, westerns, westerns. So yeah, and let's
see here. I guess it's time to go over the
plot of this, Carl, I want you to go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And it starts in the Arctic, which I thought was
I always thought it was in the Antarctic. So maybe
the Carpenter movie is in the Antarctic. I don't know,
but they are in the Arctic Military Group. They're in
I think of Anchorage. They're flying in up to the
Antarctic where there's a research facility and they have lots
(07:00):
of weird radar problems and their stuff goes whack. Well,
it says that on the ground. Apparently something has crashed,
so captain shows up and they start investigating it, and
they decide they're going to go out and find whatever's crashed,
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and it turns out it's a flying saucer, but it's
been frozen.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It's like the heat from it landed melted all the ice.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And lilted all the ice and then froze it back.
So they're going to get this UFO out, so they
try to unfreeze it, but they accidentally blow the flying
saucer up. But they find what appears to be a
passenger and it's the Thing. That's who it is.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
It's the thing.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So the thing starts chasing these military guys around and
a lot of kind of other little subplots throughout the movie,
which is kind of cool, with a got a doctor
who may be a mad scientist. The captain I think,
has a crush on the nurse, and so it's more
(08:14):
than just a monster movie. It's it's got a lot
going for it. It's not true again, it's not your
typical fifties terrible science fiction movie. It definitely is of
the horror genre in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And the monsters played by James Darnez yep, even though
I would never have known it.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Hey, you can't if you can't tell, I've seen some
close up pictures you can sort of tell it's him.
And if you don't know who James RNs is, he
was Matt Dylon. Matt Dylan from gun Smoke for quite
a few years.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Like twenty five years it was on the air, Yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
One of the longest running West turns on TV for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And then they did a bunch of eighties movies after
it was canceled. Yeah, James Arn'tz plays the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
All right. Well, I guess we'll go over the rest
of the cast, since uh.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I spoiled that spoiled.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The spoiled the thing. U. First off, we got Margaret
Sheridan as Nicky Nicholson, Kenneth Toby as Captain Patrick Hendry,
Robert Corneth Waite as Doctor Arthur Carrington.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's my mad scientist dude.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Douglas Spencer as Ned Scottie Scott.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Scotty Scott is a wrestling name, I.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Believe, James Young as Lieutenant Eddie Dikes, Dewey Martin as
Bob the crew Chief, Robert Nichols as Lieutenant Ken Mac McPherson,
William himself as Corporal Barnes, Edward Franz as Doctor stern
(10:13):
Sally Creighton as Missus Chapman. Like we said, James Arns
was the Thing, Paul Freese as Doctor Vorhees, Oh, John
Dirks is Doctor Chapman, George Fenneman as Doctor Redding, Everett
Glass as Doctor Wilson, Edmund Breon as Doctor Ambrose, and
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then there's a bunch of uncredited.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Military.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But then we do have Lee Tung Fu as the book.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
He makes a brief appearance.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Brief appearance in the thing.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Apparently he left after the thing got loose.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He wasn't hanging around. I would have took off too.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well. This is a very non politically correction movie since
it came from fifty one and they made the comment
that quote the eskimos all ran off.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, that's so oh shit.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You got the Blu ray for this, or I have
a DVD of it, but I watched I actually got
it off of Voodoo and just watched it and I
wanted to see it and at least HD look pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, I watched on twob It looked pretty good on there.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
High the same transfer. Yeah, weird enough, the Blu ray
of this costs more than the Blu ray of the
John Carpenter thing. It's only ten bucks. This one was
like sixteen I think. And actually the Movie Trading Company
they did not have it, so I just bought it
off of Voodoo. It's always liked this movie, so it's
(12:01):
good to have.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, I haven't seen it in a long long time.
So yeah, uh all right, I guess we will go
over some trivia here.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
First off, the skeleton crew at the South Pool Telescope
Station have have a tradition every winter over. Winter over,
that's when they everybody leaves and they just keep a
few people down there or whatever. Well, they watched this
movie and the other two adaptions on the very first
night after the departure of the final plane of the season.
(12:39):
That's sort of cool.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Now the remake of this that they were actually it's
supposed to be a prequel of it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It's a prequel of the Carpenter version.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, and I I didn't really like it, so it
was really have to.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Do Carpenters in the in the prequel since see what
we think about it.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
The final line of dialogue where Scotty admonishes his radio
audience to keep watching the skies became an iconic quote,
considered to be the battlement of nineteen fifty sci fi
film genre, and that evokes the flying Saucer hysteria of
(13:27):
the day, as well as the Red scare and the
threat of nuclear war. It has been reused as is
and referenced and modified from countless times by movies, TV shows,
theatrical production, song lyrics, book titles, and websites, usually with
humorous intent. So, yeah, that was because this came out
(13:52):
what like four years after Roswell happened, so probably. And
I think that deal where all the UFOs were at
the US Capitol, I think that happened like nineteen fifty
or something, nineteen forty nine, nineteen fifty, So yeah, there
was the big UFO panic then.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
So their flying saucer, I think they called.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Him Flying sashas Yah.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I didn't even know if they called them UFOs yet,
did they.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I don't think that came around until the late sixties. Yeah,
and now they've changed it to what UAPs something like that. Uh,
close ups of the thing were removed. It was felt
that the makeup could not hold up to close scrutiny.
I think that was good. Yeah, However, the lack of
(14:43):
close ups gave the creature more more mysterious quality, which
it did, could you It did, like like the famous
scene where he's in the doorway standing there. Yeah, very spooky,
very creepy, because James R's was like six' eight. Man,
(15:05):
originally it was intended to make the creature a shape
shifters in the, novel but limited budget force the filmmakers
to drop the. Idea early conceptual sketches depict a very
plant like looking creature with one of his limbs seemingly
undergoing a transformation into a human. HAND i guess it
was blue AND i had red, eyes and they wouldn't
(15:27):
have been able to show that in a black and
white film. Anyway Directors Ridley, Scott John, Frankenheimer Toby, hooper
And John carpenter all cited this movie as a key
and influential film in their. Lives carpenter famously readapted the
film from in nineteen eighty, two and he made the
(15:50):
thing a shape shifter the. Best the best part of
that movie was the special, effects for.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Sure, YEAH i don't Know i'd have to watch it
again just to.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
See like we, said the twenty eleven version is a
prequel detailing The norwegian scientific team finding the crash ship
braid in the, ice and the events that transpired prior
to the thing making it to The american. Outpost so
(16:23):
evidently it was a traveling, creature alien or whatever you
want to call. It it's partly filmed In Glacier National
park and at A Los angeles ice storage. Plant they
used the ice storage plant so they could show the
actor's breath in the cold interior. Shots that's pretty. Cool
(16:46):
that was one special effect That hollywood never successfully. ACCOMPLISHED
i already talked about the. Novella the famous scene when
the crew formed a ring around the flying saucer frozen
in the ice was actually filmed at THE Rko ranch
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in The San Fernando valley in one hundred degree. Weather
did that would have sucked being all bundled up and
then parkas and shit in the fucking. Desert. Damn Howard
hawks ASKED Us Air force for assistance in making the,
film but he was refused because of the Top brass
(17:31):
felt that such cooperation would compromise THE us government's official
stance that flying saucers didn't. Exist little Person Billy curtis
played the smaller version of The thing during the creature's
final scene where he's getting electrocuted interesting and he shrinks
(17:57):
down into a puddles of. Nothing, Really James arns reportedly
regarded his role as so. Embarrassing he didn't even attends
up for.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Me or that's funny because now it's it's promoted As
James arn't is in the thing from what is?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It outer?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Space but he actually has top billing, now so, Well.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I've never heard of any of the other. People so,
now When barnes was left to guard the thing in
the block of, ice he nervously whistles bury me not
on the Lone prairie whatever song that. Is whatever he whistled,
it and he was a dumb. Ass he put the
(18:48):
fucking heat and blanket on the goddamn chunk of ice
on the. Thing oh. Shit according to makeup Artist League,
greenway he Took James arns in his car to the
house of producer and co Director Howard hawks to show
off the makeup for the. Thing after months of, Frustration
hawks Told greenway to put A frankenstein type head piece on,
(19:11):
him which it sort of. Was he sort of did.
That although the picture begins with the usual R ko
radio tower and flashing electrical, bolts the familiar Dot Dash
dot is replaced by the pictures opening, theme unusual for
(19:33):
an R Ko prediction. Production usually it's the at the
beginning of.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
It it's generally believe That Howard hawks took over direction
For Christian, nibe his former, editor during, production and it
is always acknowledged By nibby That hawks was a gilding.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Hand, however in an, Interview James arnest said that While
hawks spent a lot of time on the, set it
Was nibby who actually directed the, picture Not. Hawks Filmmaker John,
carpenter who directed the, remake said an interview that he
Asked hawks that question in nineteen seventy. One hawks told
him that he only Gave nibbe some some. Suggestions carpenter, noted,
(20:20):
howeer that in later Life hawks started to claim more
and more credit for directing the film as it got more.
Popular Problem, yeah and that the completed movie was much
more Of hawks's trademarks Than nibe's later. Work so we
don't know who directed. IT i guess sounds like it
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was about half and half to. Me the opening credits
are unusual for its, time and that they don't list
a single member of the cast at. All they're not,
all they're all at the, end and then they're all
like flames burning.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Out, YEAH i noticed that actually WHEN i watched.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It Margaret, sheridan who mysteriously gets top, billing was a
protege Of Howard. Hawks she originally meant it to be
the female lead In Red river from nineteen forty, three
but became. Pregnant it's, Like i've never heard of any
of these. People you just don't, know. Dude when one
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character is asked if he knows how to use a very,
pistol his response WAS i Saw Gary cooper And Sergeant
york that he perceives to lick his finger and run
along the gun's sight Like york did throughout the. Film
Sergeant york from nineteen forty one was also directed By Howard.
(21:50):
HAWKS i don't Think i've seen that it's a war.
FILM i believe let's it say war. Film Robert, cornwath
who plays the six sixtiest looking Doctor, carrington was actually
only thirty four years old at the time the film was. Made,
(22:12):
wow he looked old as shit with his glued down.
Hair you notice that his hair looked like it was
just glued down to. HIM i didn't Notice Howard hawks
added From Another world to the title to avoid confusion
(22:33):
with the song Called The thing that was popular at the.
Time never heard that song. Either now let's see. Here
James RNs complained that The thing costume made him look
like a giant. Tearrot he just hated this movie. Apparently,
(22:58):
OH i wonder if he got when did he? Died
he died like in the, nineties didn't They.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah LIKE i, said they were still making gun smoke
movies in the.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
EIGHTIES i wonder if he got residuals off the. VIDEO
i don't know, Video LIKE i.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Said, now he's top build on it in this day and.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Age. Huh this movie Was Margaret sheridan's film debut After
Howard hawk signed her to a five year. Deal, however
her follow on rolls were less than, stellar And hawks
off and lent her out to, friends exploring the new
medium of. Television she Left hollywood in nineteen fifty five
to have a, family and briefly returned in nineteen sixty,
(23:44):
Four filding in two guest spots and an unprecredited movie.
Role finally retired from acting in nineteen sixty. Five she
wasn't a very good. Actress they think they more or
less had her on there for. Looks, Yeah alaska was
originally considered as, location but it was decided to head
(24:07):
for more accessible locations in Northern montana. Instead two weeks
of filming were playing, there but they had to be
curtailed by a week due to lack of. Snowfall let's see.
Here this was the forty sixth biggest grossing film of the,
(24:28):
year beating out other now classic sci fi films Like
When Worlds collide And The day of The Earth Stood,
still both from nineteen fifty. One this was the first
of only two films made By Howard hawk's own production,
Company Winchester Pictures. Corporation winchester Was hawk's middle.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
NAME i thought it actually was the company THAT i
thought it was, too because they had whenever it Said
Winchester film or whatever forgotten to History.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Now took makeup Artist Lee greenway five months and eighteen
sculptures of the creature before he came up with a
design that. Satisfied howard hawks sounds like he was a picky.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Motherfucker, well you, know they didn't mention in the movie
that it was like a plant, material but he didn't
look like a. Plant he did sort of look like A. Frankenstein,
yes he, did.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Let's see. Here in an interview On National Public Radio's
Fresh air With Jeans siskel And Robert, Ebert Roger, ebert
WHEN i asked about the most scared they'd ever been
in the, Movies ebert indicated that this film scared him to,
death especially the scene where they incinerated the. THING i
(25:52):
guess it would have been pretty scary for nineteen fifty.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
One, yeah it's definitely scary than The universal films. Were
they're more, SPOOKY i.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
THINK i don't.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
KNOW i guess in nineteen thirty it was.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Scary, yeah for all the secrecy About James arn'ta's makeup
and the time it took to. Apply he's on screen
as a thing for less than three. Minutes, YEAH i
was gonna. Say he appears at the greenhouse door for
less than five, seconds and again at the climax for
(26:26):
approximately two minutes and five. Seconds the scene where he
fights the dogs and the fire scene and the final
part of the electrocution scene were all done by Stand insuh.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
YEAH i was gonna say all the shit they put
on the. Makeup he wasn't barely in the. Movie that's,
Crazy and talking about who directed it was he on
set the whole? Time so does he who Knows.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Here We go cost to make the? Thing forty thousand
Dollars that was for. Costume that would be equivalent to
three hundred and seventy thousand dollars in twenty fifteen after.
Inflation as opposed to an interview With james Arn't, az
(27:14):
the film, Star Kenneth toby has maintained in many interviews
that it was Indeed hawks who directed the, film so
Here we go. It toby said that he had worked
With Christian navy after the film on many occasions and
he was a fine, director But hawks did call all
the shots on most of the. Film Let's See here
(27:39):
got inducted into The American Film Registry institute in two
thousand and, one and it's on the list the top
one hundred most heart Pounding american. Movies it was pretty
scary for its. Time Or, Yeah Let's See here film
(28:09):
takes place From november two To november third of nineteen
fifty and we've talked about a bunch of all this other.
Stuff SO i guess that's ALL i got for. Trivia,
UH i guess you go? First how are you gonna?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Now LIKE i, Said i'm always been fond of this
movie as a. Kid EVEN i don't know about the carpenter.
When i'll just have to watch that, AGAIN i guess
at some. Point BUT i just think this is a superior.
MOVIE i, mean, obviously it was made in nineteen fifty
one on a lower. BUDGET i think a remake of
it would have been cool if it would have been
(28:52):
a remake of this actual, movie but it was, Not
SO i think this movie still. Stands it's got some slow,
moments but it's a build. Up it takes a while
to get. There you don't see the thing very, much
but when you, do it's spooky as. Shit SO i
think they did a good, job AND i think it's
(29:15):
still relevant and it was very. Influential So i'll give
this a three point five high end of. That just
a little slow in, parts that's about the only. COMPLAINT i.
Got too much of the captain and the. NURSE i
think banner back and, forth but you, know it built
(29:36):
up where it needed to. Go so definitely recommend if
you haven't seen this movie to take a.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Look if you like The.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Carpenter, one then, YEAH i don't, KNOW i don't know
how you would think of the first. One if you've
never seen the first one and only seen The carpenter,
one it might make you feel a little.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Different, YEAH i can see that for.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Sure, YEAH i think.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So. Well the first TIME i THINK i ever seen
this was like on the weekend you, know creature feature
show they had ON tv WHEN i was a. Kid
it's the first Time coolie would Spng goolie and he
had had another guy. TOO i forget the guy's, name but,
(30:20):
Yeah i've definitely seen him one seen it on Spng
gooley before for, Sure and, uh you, know for nineteen fifty,
ONE i think they did a great job they. Did
Uh like the, cinematography the way it was shot was
they did a really good job On. Uh special effects
(30:40):
were pretty damn, GOOD i, think you, know with the
like the making of their, breath showing their, breath you,
know and uh like very creative the snow and. Stuff
it looked like they're in The arctic to, Me, yeah,
yeah or the ANTARCTICAC i, SAID i always thought this
was in The South, pole but it's The North. Pole,
(31:01):
yeah and, yeah they did a great job on. THAT
i think THEY i think they tried too hard on the,
creature ended up not making it as good as they
probably could. HAVE i think they tried too, hard AND i.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Agree LIKE i, said they mentioned that he's made out of,
plant but it was clearly when you saw him he
wasn't made out a. Plant so that's part of The
that kind of gives me some points. Down it just
don't really. FIT i think the script didn't match up
to what the creature. Became like you, said it seemed
(31:39):
like that dude was picky as.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Shit yeah for. Sure but, YEAH i like this. Movie.
FINE i haven't seen it in a. While it's probably been,
shit probably fifteen twenty years since i've seen, it say fifty, Years,
no not that. Long but, Yeah i'm gonna go ahead
(32:03):
and give it a three and a. Half. Two we
agree with. You it still holds, up for, Sure it holds.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Up it probably should go a little, higher but we'll
keep it at three point. Five and that's not taking
anything away from, it because if you, remember three is.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Average so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
SOMETIMES i overrate, MOVIES i do, believe just based on Biased.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, sometimes, yeah, YEAH i see.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That there was some dumbass MOVIE i gave a five
that didn't deserve to be a. THREE i don't remember
which one it. Was it's been this.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Year uh all, Right, WELL i guess that's it for
The thing From Another? World isn't that what it? Is?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
YEAH i always want to call it The thing from outer,
space but it is another.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
World isn't there a movie called that? Too?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
THOUGH i think there might. BE i don't, KNOW i don't.
KNOW i guess someday we'll do The carpenter.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
One, yeah, well you, know that's that's a lot of
PEOPLE'S a lot of people have high regard for that.
MOVIE i know they.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Do but you, know like in the.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Especially like in the special effects, world you, know because
that was some really good stuff for back for nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Two you, know you know, ME i like to cause
controversy and talk, shit.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
You, know and being practical. Effects you, know, shit it
was fucking. Awesome so, YEAH i know, YOU i know
you always talk shit about. SHIT i, love so you.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
HATE i didn't know that you loved The CARPENTER i.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Didn't don't love, it BUT i.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Never knew that was Your. Uh LIKE i said before
we started, TAPING i just not a big fan Of John.
CARPENTER i, mean, obviously The First halloween is the greatest
thing he, did AND i like They live, Movie but
a lot of Those carpenter movies bore. Me LIKE i
said when we Did prince Of, DARKNESS i don't know
WHY i rated, it BUT i just find that movie.
(34:08):
Slow And i'm just not a Big carpenter. Fan, OKAY
i just not.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
All.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Right like that vampire movie he. Made that's that's.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Terrible, yeah that wasn't any? Good? Yeah? That what was
the other? One's? Uh The mars? One what was? That
did he do that one?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Too was that him Or Toby?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Hooper or Did Toby? HOOP i don't remember what was that?
Movie even called something from Mar Mars? Attacks, no, No.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
No that Is Toby, hooper isn't?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It that's That Mars? Attacks is that stupid ass, movie
ain't it with the weird? Alien? YEAH i don't know
The mars?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Movie that?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Vampire was it vampires From mars or? NOW i don't.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Know you're just making up.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Shit. NOW i don't know if he made that or,
not BUT i know he did make that dumbass vampires,
movie so, yes, Yeah so all, RIGHT i guess that's
all we got everybody sort of short episode this, week
BUT i guess it's better than, nothing or is? It
or is? It? Oh? Shit all, Right, well thanks for
(35:29):
watching and listening, Everybody AND i hope you learned something
about the thing from outer.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Space we're just going to rename it, that.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
All, right check us out on all the social media
is and, uh get that like and subscribe, button AND
i guess we'll talk at you all, later BUT i.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Ain't next week is is The Evil, talk ain't?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It? Yep next Week's Evil? Talk so They Evil talk
live on. YouTube uh check that. Out we'll get we
got another very special guest coming, on so we'll all
announce that later on in the. Week so, YEAH i
don't even know who it. Is you don't get to
(36:15):
know until day.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Of that's fine with, me because it's not my.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Show just be. PREPARED i already told you one one
of the. THINGS I i.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Don't remember anything about what you. Said, OKAY i don't
THINK i was, listening.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
All, Right, oh and we got a possibly got a
new deal on some, shirts so we might have some
more shirts here coming. Out so we'll have to wait and.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
See you need to change something on the. Shirts they,
all every one of them have been the.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
SAME i was thinking about doing something or, something BUT
i don't.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Know, no the only part of it where the thorn
goes with that, circle this sort of. Plane wonderfully that
could be spiced.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Up maybe take out the. CIRCLE i don't.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Know the thorn's, great but the circle just always seems
a Little.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Maybe just leave out the. CIRCLE i don't.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
KNOW i don't. KNOW i just that's the only part
of the LOGO i could really ever say anything. About
not that it's, bad it's just on the shirts it
looks a little, ODD i think because you got that
big black spot in the middle of the. Circle so who,
knows something to look.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
At maybe maybe another design around it or something. DIFFERENT
i don't. Know we'll work on, it we'll, see all.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Right just crack the thorn in his in his.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
HEAD i don't, know maybe, no maybe just the, thorn
maybe just a thorn SAYING i don't know that that's
for another, Time, okay all, Right Happy. Easter, everybody It's
easter tomorrow or when you guys just comes out so
happy easter and stable everybody that mental life THAT i saw,
(38:12):
IT i shot it AND i hit.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
IT i know, it and happened come make noise like
a caning.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Captain it was awful if you could see those hands
and those. Eyes so you've got it to tell you
aboudy you Can't is it human or? Inhuman earthly or?
Unearthly baffling, questions astounding questions that not even the world's
greatest scientific minds can. Answer, gentlemen do you realize what we've?
FOUND a being from another world that's different from, us
(38:41):
is one pole from. Me we can only communicate. Me
see what happened on you and the green? HOUSE i was,
WORKING i couldn't see. THAT a blast of colder AND
i heard a.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Screen come, here get in the cord and all this
stay by the light to wait like nine.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Needles hippo top
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Ss
This is the Evil Never Dies Podcast with Breton Carl.
This podcast may contain adult themes, violence, and strong language.
Listener discretion is advised.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Evil Never Dies Podcast.
I don't even know what fuck an episode or even on.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I have no clue.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I quit keeping cow because it automatically does it when
I do the audio portion of it.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I don't even look at that shit anymore. Three hundred
and twenty two or something. I don't know, gotcha. So yeah,
shitty ass weekend so far. It is the egg hunt,
got fucking rained out and sicknesses, and somebody's pissing blood.
(01:31):
Somebody's pissing blood and razor blades.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Razor blades.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
That's what it feels like. Dude. It's no good.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
If I were ever to piss blood, I'd probably just
pass out or some shit. For you, it just seems
like a daily thing almost.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I got home from work yesterday. I don't know what's
going on. I haven't felt no kidney stone or nothing
like moving. And all of a sudden, I come home
and take a piss, and I'm pissing blood and razor blades.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Sounds like a slayer song, it does, don't it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, But yeah, I got another kidney stone, which I
knew I had one, but it decided it's going to try.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
To show it not have one.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Spoils only had one five millimeter one left in my kidneys,
so I think they lied to you. But they can't
see the one. The shit that's you know, built up
on the walls of your kidneys, they can't see all
that shit. They can just see when a piece of
it breaks off. So yeah, I don't know why that is,
(02:45):
but that's what I was told. But anyway, I had
a five millimeter one and now it's trying to show
it rear its ugly head. It must be sharp if
I'm pissing blood, so I guess so good. I'm sure
everybody wants to hear about my fucking kimney stone problem.
(03:08):
But tonight we are doing the thing from another world,
or most people just call it the original the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, originally it was going to be the John Carpenter thing, and.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, we were originally gonna do the John Carpenter one,
but Carl said he hated it, so.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I do hate it. We'll do it later if you
want to, but not now.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So we're gonna do the original from nineteen fifty one.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It's so old. It was an RKO movie.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah. It was directed by Christian Niby, screenplay by Charles Letter, uncredited,
Hower Hawks and Ben Hecked. I guess there's sort of
a thing where I guess Howard Hawks supposedly directed most
(04:09):
of it or whatever. There's some we'll get into that later, okay.
Based on a novella by John W. Campbell Junior called
Who Goes There from nineteen thirty eight, produced by Edward
(04:29):
Lasker and Howard Hawks. Cinematography by Russell Harlan, edited by
Roland Gross, music by Dimitri Tiomkin. I guess that's how
you say it. Music was pretty cool in it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Actually, it's a good soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's like your this must have been like this actually
sort of maybe was one of the bigger start of
the science fiction UFO movies to start out, you know,
and a lot of people have covered that type of
(05:13):
music with the Yeah, I think with the size or whatever.
This movie was.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Majorly ripped off by everybody.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
YEP. Production company Winchester Pictures Corporation.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And it is the Winchester that has the guns YEP.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Distributed by RKO Radio Pictures. Release date was April twenty seventh,
nineteen fifty one. Has a running time of eighty seven minutes.
United States country of origin, English language. And I couldn't
find a how much it costs to make this, but
(05:58):
between the box office and the United States rental, it's
brought in one point nine to five million, so that's
pretty good. How many years ago was that? Eighty years almost?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't think r KAO was a big horror producing
studio either, so they did.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They did like a bunch of them old war movie yeah,
and stuff like that, westerns, westerns. So yeah, and let's
see here. I guess it's time to go over the
plot of this, Carl, I want you to go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And it starts in the Arctic, which I thought was
I always thought it was in the Antarctic. So maybe
the Carpenter movie is in the Antarctic. I don't know,
but they are in the Arctic Military Group. They're in
I think of Anchorage. They're flying in up to the
Antarctic where there's a research facility and they have lots
(07:00):
of weird radar problems and their stuff goes whack. Well,
it says that on the ground. Apparently something has crashed,
so captain shows up and they start investigating it, and
they decide they're going to go out and find whatever's crashed,
(07:23):
and it turns out it's a flying saucer, but it's
been frozen.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It's like the heat from it landed melted all the ice.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And lilted all the ice and then froze it back.
So they're going to get this UFO out, so they
try to unfreeze it, but they accidentally blow the flying
saucer up. But they find what appears to be a
passenger and it's the Thing. That's who it is.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
It's the thing.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So the thing starts chasing these military guys around and
a lot of kind of other little subplots throughout the movie,
which is kind of cool, with a got a doctor
who may be a mad scientist. The captain I think,
has a crush on the nurse, and so it's more
(08:14):
than just a monster movie. It's it's got a lot
going for it. It's not true again, it's not your
typical fifties terrible science fiction movie. It definitely is of
the horror genre in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And the monsters played by James Darnez yep, even though
I would never have known it.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Hey, you can't if you can't tell, I've seen some
close up pictures you can sort of tell it's him.
And if you don't know who James RNs is, he
was Matt Dylon. Matt Dylan from gun Smoke for quite
a few years.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Like twenty five years it was on the air, Yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
One of the longest running West turns on TV for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And then they did a bunch of eighties movies after
it was canceled. Yeah, James Arn'tz plays the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
All right. Well, I guess we'll go over the rest
of the cast, since uh.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I spoiled that spoiled.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The spoiled the thing. U. First off, we got Margaret
Sheridan as Nicky Nicholson, Kenneth Toby as Captain Patrick Hendry,
Robert Corneth Waite as Doctor Arthur Carrington.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's my mad scientist dude.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Douglas Spencer as Ned Scottie Scott.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Scotty Scott is a wrestling name, I.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Believe, James Young as Lieutenant Eddie Dikes, Dewey Martin as
Bob the crew Chief, Robert Nichols as Lieutenant Ken Mac McPherson,
William himself as Corporal Barnes, Edward Franz as Doctor stern
(10:13):
Sally Creighton as Missus Chapman. Like we said, James Arns
was the Thing, Paul Freese as Doctor Vorhees, Oh, John
Dirks is Doctor Chapman, George Fenneman as Doctor Redding, Everett
Glass as Doctor Wilson, Edmund Breon as Doctor Ambrose, and
(10:41):
then there's a bunch of uncredited.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Military.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But then we do have Lee Tung Fu as the book.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
He makes a brief appearance.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Brief appearance in the thing.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Apparently he left after the thing got loose.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He wasn't hanging around. I would have took off too.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well. This is a very non politically correction movie since
it came from fifty one and they made the comment
that quote the eskimos all ran off.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, that's so oh shit.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You got the Blu ray for this, or I have
a DVD of it, but I watched I actually got
it off of Voodoo and just watched it and I
wanted to see it and at least HD look pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, I watched on twob It looked pretty good on there.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
High the same transfer. Yeah, weird enough, the Blu ray
of this costs more than the Blu ray of the
John Carpenter thing. It's only ten bucks. This one was
like sixteen I think. And actually the Movie Trading Company
they did not have it, so I just bought it
off of Voodoo. It's always liked this movie, so it's
(12:01):
good to have.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, I haven't seen it in a long long time.
So yeah, uh all right, I guess we will go
over some trivia here.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
First off, the skeleton crew at the South Pool Telescope
Station have have a tradition every winter over. Winter over,
that's when they everybody leaves and they just keep a
few people down there or whatever. Well, they watched this
movie and the other two adaptions on the very first
night after the departure of the final plane of the season.
(12:39):
That's sort of cool.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Now the remake of this that they were actually it's
supposed to be a prequel of it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It's a prequel of the Carpenter version.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, and I I didn't really like it, so it
was really have to.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Do Carpenters in the in the prequel since see what
we think about it.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
The final line of dialogue where Scotty admonishes his radio
audience to keep watching the skies became an iconic quote,
considered to be the battlement of nineteen fifty sci fi
film genre, and that evokes the flying Saucer hysteria of
(13:27):
the day, as well as the Red scare and the
threat of nuclear war. It has been reused as is
and referenced and modified from countless times by movies, TV shows,
theatrical production, song lyrics, book titles, and websites, usually with
humorous intent. So, yeah, that was because this came out
(13:52):
what like four years after Roswell happened, so probably. And
I think that deal where all the UFOs were at
the US Capitol, I think that happened like nineteen fifty
or something, nineteen forty nine, nineteen fifty, So yeah, there
was the big UFO panic then.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
So their flying saucer, I think they called.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Him Flying sashas Yah.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I didn't even know if they called them UFOs yet,
did they.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I don't think that came around until the late sixties. Yeah,
and now they've changed it to what UAPs something like that. Uh,
close ups of the thing were removed. It was felt
that the makeup could not hold up to close scrutiny.
I think that was good. Yeah, However, the lack of
(14:43):
close ups gave the creature more more mysterious quality, which
it did, could you It did, like like the famous
scene where he's in the doorway standing there. Yeah, very spooky,
very creepy, because James R's was like six' eight. Man,
(15:05):
originally it was intended to make the creature a shape
shifters in the, novel but limited budget force the filmmakers
to drop the. Idea early conceptual sketches depict a very
plant like looking creature with one of his limbs seemingly
undergoing a transformation into a human. HAND i guess it
was blue AND i had red, eyes and they wouldn't
(15:27):
have been able to show that in a black and
white film. Anyway Directors Ridley, Scott John, Frankenheimer Toby, hooper
And John carpenter all cited this movie as a key
and influential film in their. Lives carpenter famously readapted the
film from in nineteen eighty, two and he made the
(15:50):
thing a shape shifter the. Best the best part of
that movie was the special, effects for.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Sure, YEAH i don't Know i'd have to watch it
again just to.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
See like we, said the twenty eleven version is a
prequel detailing The norwegian scientific team finding the crash ship
braid in the, ice and the events that transpired prior
to the thing making it to The american. Outpost so
(16:23):
evidently it was a traveling, creature alien or whatever you
want to call. It it's partly filmed In Glacier National
park and at A Los angeles ice storage. Plant they
used the ice storage plant so they could show the
actor's breath in the cold interior. Shots that's pretty. Cool
(16:46):
that was one special effect That hollywood never successfully. ACCOMPLISHED
i already talked about the. Novella the famous scene when
the crew formed a ring around the flying saucer frozen
in the ice was actually filmed at THE Rko ranch
(17:09):
in The San Fernando valley in one hundred degree. Weather
did that would have sucked being all bundled up and
then parkas and shit in the fucking. Desert. Damn Howard
hawks ASKED Us Air force for assistance in making the,
film but he was refused because of the Top brass
(17:31):
felt that such cooperation would compromise THE us government's official
stance that flying saucers didn't. Exist little Person Billy curtis
played the smaller version of The thing during the creature's
final scene where he's getting electrocuted interesting and he shrinks
(17:57):
down into a puddles of. Nothing, Really James arns reportedly
regarded his role as so. Embarrassing he didn't even attends
up for.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Me or that's funny because now it's it's promoted As
James arn't is in the thing from what is?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It outer?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Space but he actually has top billing, now so, Well.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I've never heard of any of the other. People so,
now When barnes was left to guard the thing in
the block of, ice he nervously whistles bury me not
on the Lone prairie whatever song that. Is whatever he whistled,
it and he was a dumb. Ass he put the
(18:48):
fucking heat and blanket on the goddamn chunk of ice
on the. Thing oh. Shit according to makeup Artist League,
greenway he Took James arns in his car to the
house of producer and co Director Howard hawks to show
off the makeup for the. Thing after months of, Frustration
hawks Told greenway to put A frankenstein type head piece on,
(19:11):
him which it sort of. Was he sort of did.
That although the picture begins with the usual R ko
radio tower and flashing electrical, bolts the familiar Dot Dash
dot is replaced by the pictures opening, theme unusual for
(19:33):
an R Ko prediction. Production usually it's the at the
beginning of.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
It it's generally believe That Howard hawks took over direction
For Christian, nibe his former, editor during, production and it
is always acknowledged By nibby That hawks was a gilding.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Hand, however in an, Interview James arnest said that While
hawks spent a lot of time on the, set it
Was nibby who actually directed the, picture Not. Hawks Filmmaker John,
carpenter who directed the, remake said an interview that he
Asked hawks that question in nineteen seventy. One hawks told
him that he only Gave nibbe some some. Suggestions carpenter, noted,
(20:20):
howeer that in later Life hawks started to claim more
and more credit for directing the film as it got more.
Popular Problem, yeah and that the completed movie was much
more Of hawks's trademarks Than nibe's later. Work so we
don't know who directed. IT i guess sounds like it
(20:43):
was about half and half to. Me the opening credits
are unusual for its, time and that they don't list
a single member of the cast at. All they're not,
all they're all at the, end and then they're all
like flames burning.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Out, YEAH i noticed that actually WHEN i watched.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It Margaret, sheridan who mysteriously gets top, billing was a
protege Of Howard. Hawks she originally meant it to be
the female lead In Red river from nineteen forty, three
but became. Pregnant it's, Like i've never heard of any
of these. People you just don't, know. Dude when one
(21:29):
character is asked if he knows how to use a very,
pistol his response WAS i Saw Gary cooper And Sergeant
york that he perceives to lick his finger and run
along the gun's sight Like york did throughout the. Film
Sergeant york from nineteen forty one was also directed By Howard.
(21:50):
HAWKS i don't Think i've seen that it's a war.
FILM i believe let's it say war. Film Robert, cornwath
who plays the six sixtiest looking Doctor, carrington was actually
only thirty four years old at the time the film was. Made,
(22:12):
wow he looked old as shit with his glued down.
Hair you notice that his hair looked like it was
just glued down to. HIM i didn't Notice Howard hawks
added From Another world to the title to avoid confusion
(22:33):
with the song Called The thing that was popular at the.
Time never heard that song. Either now let's see. Here
James RNs complained that The thing costume made him look
like a giant. Tearrot he just hated this movie. Apparently,
(22:58):
OH i wonder if he got when did he? Died
he died like in the, nineties didn't They.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah LIKE i, said they were still making gun smoke
movies in the.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
EIGHTIES i wonder if he got residuals off the. VIDEO
i don't know, Video LIKE i.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Said, now he's top build on it in this day and.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Age. Huh this movie Was Margaret sheridan's film debut After
Howard hawk signed her to a five year. Deal, however
her follow on rolls were less than, stellar And hawks
off and lent her out to, friends exploring the new
medium of. Television she Left hollywood in nineteen fifty five
to have a, family and briefly returned in nineteen sixty,
(23:44):
Four filding in two guest spots and an unprecredited movie.
Role finally retired from acting in nineteen sixty. Five she
wasn't a very good. Actress they think they more or
less had her on there for. Looks, Yeah alaska was
originally considered as, location but it was decided to head
(24:07):
for more accessible locations in Northern montana. Instead two weeks
of filming were playing, there but they had to be
curtailed by a week due to lack of. Snowfall let's see.
Here this was the forty sixth biggest grossing film of the,
(24:28):
year beating out other now classic sci fi films Like
When Worlds collide And The day of The Earth Stood,
still both from nineteen fifty. One this was the first
of only two films made By Howard hawk's own production,
Company Winchester Pictures. Corporation winchester Was hawk's middle.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
NAME i thought it actually was the company THAT i
thought it was, too because they had whenever it Said
Winchester film or whatever forgotten to History.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Now took makeup Artist Lee greenway five months and eighteen
sculptures of the creature before he came up with a
design that. Satisfied howard hawks sounds like he was a picky.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Motherfucker, well you, know they didn't mention in the movie
that it was like a plant, material but he didn't
look like a. Plant he did sort of look like A. Frankenstein,
yes he, did.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Let's see. Here in an interview On National Public Radio's
Fresh air With Jeans siskel And Robert, Ebert Roger, ebert
WHEN i asked about the most scared they'd ever been
in the, Movies ebert indicated that this film scared him to,
death especially the scene where they incinerated the. THING i
(25:52):
guess it would have been pretty scary for nineteen fifty.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
One, yeah it's definitely scary than The universal films. Were
they're more, SPOOKY i.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
THINK i don't.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
KNOW i guess in nineteen thirty it was.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Scary, yeah for all the secrecy About James arn'ta's makeup
and the time it took to. Apply he's on screen
as a thing for less than three. Minutes, YEAH i
was gonna. Say he appears at the greenhouse door for
less than five, seconds and again at the climax for
(26:26):
approximately two minutes and five. Seconds the scene where he
fights the dogs and the fire scene and the final
part of the electrocution scene were all done by Stand insuh.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
YEAH i was gonna say all the shit they put
on the. Makeup he wasn't barely in the. Movie that's,
Crazy and talking about who directed it was he on
set the whole? Time so does he who Knows.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Here We go cost to make the? Thing forty thousand
Dollars that was for. Costume that would be equivalent to
three hundred and seventy thousand dollars in twenty fifteen after.
Inflation as opposed to an interview With james Arn't, az
(27:14):
the film, Star Kenneth toby has maintained in many interviews
that it was Indeed hawks who directed the, film so
Here we go. It toby said that he had worked
With Christian navy after the film on many occasions and
he was a fine, director But hawks did call all
the shots on most of the. Film Let's See here
(27:39):
got inducted into The American Film Registry institute in two
thousand and, one and it's on the list the top
one hundred most heart Pounding american. Movies it was pretty
scary for its. Time Or, Yeah Let's See here film
(28:09):
takes place From november two To november third of nineteen
fifty and we've talked about a bunch of all this other.
Stuff SO i guess that's ALL i got for. Trivia,
UH i guess you go? First how are you gonna?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Now LIKE i, Said i'm always been fond of this
movie as a. Kid EVEN i don't know about the carpenter.
When i'll just have to watch that, AGAIN i guess
at some. Point BUT i just think this is a superior.
MOVIE i, mean, obviously it was made in nineteen fifty
one on a lower. BUDGET i think a remake of
it would have been cool if it would have been
(28:52):
a remake of this actual, movie but it was, Not
SO i think this movie still. Stands it's got some slow,
moments but it's a build. Up it takes a while
to get. There you don't see the thing very, much
but when you, do it's spooky as. Shit SO i
think they did a good, job AND i think it's
(29:15):
still relevant and it was very. Influential So i'll give
this a three point five high end of. That just
a little slow in, parts that's about the only. COMPLAINT i.
Got too much of the captain and the. NURSE i
think banner back and, forth but you, know it built
(29:36):
up where it needed to. Go so definitely recommend if
you haven't seen this movie to take a.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Look if you like The.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Carpenter, one then, YEAH i don't, KNOW i don't know
how you would think of the first. One if you've
never seen the first one and only seen The carpenter,
one it might make you feel a little.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Different, YEAH i can see that for.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Sure, YEAH i think.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So. Well the first TIME i THINK i ever seen
this was like on the weekend you, know creature feature
show they had ON tv WHEN i was a. Kid
it's the first Time coolie would Spng goolie and he
had had another guy. TOO i forget the guy's, name but,
(30:20):
Yeah i've definitely seen him one seen it on Spng
gooley before for, Sure and, uh you, know for nineteen fifty,
ONE i think they did a great job they. Did
Uh like the, cinematography the way it was shot was
they did a really good job On. Uh special effects
(30:40):
were pretty damn, GOOD i, think you, know with the
like the making of their, breath showing their, breath you,
know and uh like very creative the snow and. Stuff
it looked like they're in The arctic to, Me, yeah,
yeah or the ANTARCTICAC i, SAID i always thought this
was in The South, pole but it's The North. Pole,
(31:01):
yeah and, yeah they did a great job on. THAT
i think THEY i think they tried too hard on the,
creature ended up not making it as good as they
probably could. HAVE i think they tried too, hard AND i.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Agree LIKE i, said they mentioned that he's made out of,
plant but it was clearly when you saw him he
wasn't made out a. Plant so that's part of The
that kind of gives me some points. Down it just
don't really. FIT i think the script didn't match up
to what the creature. Became like you, said it seemed
(31:39):
like that dude was picky as.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Shit yeah for. Sure but, YEAH i like this. Movie.
FINE i haven't seen it in a. While it's probably been,
shit probably fifteen twenty years since i've seen, it say fifty, Years,
no not that. Long but, Yeah i'm gonna go ahead
(32:03):
and give it a three and a. Half. Two we
agree with. You it still holds, up for, Sure it holds.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Up it probably should go a little, higher but we'll
keep it at three point. Five and that's not taking
anything away from, it because if you, remember three is.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Average so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
SOMETIMES i overrate, MOVIES i do, believe just based on Biased.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, sometimes, yeah, YEAH i see.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That there was some dumbass MOVIE i gave a five
that didn't deserve to be a. THREE i don't remember
which one it. Was it's been this.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Year uh all, Right, WELL i guess that's it for
The thing From Another? World isn't that what it? Is?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
YEAH i always want to call it The thing from outer,
space but it is another.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
World isn't there a movie called that? Too?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
THOUGH i think there might. BE i don't, KNOW i don't.
KNOW i guess someday we'll do The carpenter.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
One, yeah, well you, know that's that's a lot of
PEOPLE'S a lot of people have high regard for that.
MOVIE i know they.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Do but you, know like in the.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Especially like in the special effects, world you, know because
that was some really good stuff for back for nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Two you, know you know, ME i like to cause
controversy and talk, shit.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
You, know and being practical. Effects you, know, shit it
was fucking. Awesome so, YEAH i know, YOU i know
you always talk shit about. SHIT i, love so you.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
HATE i didn't know that you loved The CARPENTER i.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Didn't don't love, it BUT i.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Never knew that was Your. Uh LIKE i said before
we started, TAPING i just not a big fan Of John.
CARPENTER i, mean, obviously The First halloween is the greatest
thing he, did AND i like They live, Movie but
a lot of Those carpenter movies bore. Me LIKE i
said when we Did prince Of, DARKNESS i don't know
WHY i rated, it BUT i just find that movie.
(34:08):
Slow And i'm just not a Big carpenter. Fan, OKAY
i just not.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
All.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Right like that vampire movie he. Made that's that's.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Terrible, yeah that wasn't any? Good? Yeah? That what was
the other? One's? Uh The mars? One what was? That
did he do that one?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Too was that him Or Toby?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Hooper or Did Toby? HOOP i don't remember what was that?
Movie even called something from Mar Mars? Attacks, no, No.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
No that Is Toby, hooper isn't?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It that's That Mars? Attacks is that stupid ass, movie
ain't it with the weird? Alien? YEAH i don't know
The mars?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Movie that?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Vampire was it vampires From mars or? NOW i don't.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Know you're just making up.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Shit. NOW i don't know if he made that or,
not BUT i know he did make that dumbass vampires,
movie so, yes, Yeah so all, RIGHT i guess that's
all we got everybody sort of short episode this, week
BUT i guess it's better than, nothing or is? It
or is? It? Oh? Shit all, Right, well thanks for
(35:29):
watching and listening, Everybody AND i hope you learned something
about the thing from outer.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Space we're just going to rename it, that.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
All, right check us out on all the social media
is and, uh get that like and subscribe, button AND
i guess we'll talk at you all, later BUT i.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Ain't next week is is The Evil, talk ain't?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It? Yep next Week's Evil? Talk so They Evil talk
live on. YouTube uh check that. Out we'll get we
got another very special guest coming, on so we'll all
announce that later on in the. Week so, YEAH i
don't even know who it. Is you don't get to
(36:15):
know until day.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Of that's fine with, me because it's not my.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Show just be. PREPARED i already told you one one
of the. THINGS I i.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Don't remember anything about what you. Said, OKAY i don't
THINK i was, listening.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
All, Right, oh and we got a possibly got a
new deal on some, shirts so we might have some
more shirts here coming. Out so we'll have to wait and.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
See you need to change something on the. Shirts they,
all every one of them have been the.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
SAME i was thinking about doing something or, something BUT
i don't.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Know, no the only part of it where the thorn
goes with that, circle this sort of. Plane wonderfully that
could be spiced.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Up maybe take out the. CIRCLE i don't.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Know the thorn's, great but the circle just always seems
a Little.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Maybe just leave out the. CIRCLE i don't.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
KNOW i don't. KNOW i just that's the only part
of the LOGO i could really ever say anything. About
not that it's, bad it's just on the shirts it
looks a little, ODD i think because you got that
big black spot in the middle of the. Circle so who,
knows something to look.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
At maybe maybe another design around it or something. DIFFERENT
i don't. Know we'll work on, it we'll, see all.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Right just crack the thorn in his in his.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
HEAD i don't, know maybe, no maybe just the, thorn
maybe just a thorn SAYING i don't know that that's
for another, Time, okay all, Right Happy. Easter, everybody It's
easter tomorrow or when you guys just comes out so
happy easter and stable everybody that mental life THAT i saw,
(38:12):
IT i shot it AND i hit.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
IT i know, it and happened come make noise like
a caning.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Captain it was awful if you could see those hands
and those. Eyes so you've got it to tell you
aboudy you Can't is it human or? Inhuman earthly or?
Unearthly baffling, questions astounding questions that not even the world's
greatest scientific minds can. Answer, gentlemen do you realize what we've?
FOUND a being from another world that's different from, us
(38:41):
is one pole from. Me we can only communicate. Me
see what happened on you and the green? HOUSE i was,
WORKING i couldn't see. THAT a blast of colder AND
i heard a.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Screen come, here get in the cord and all this
stay by the light to wait like nine.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Needles hippo top
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Ss
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