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Speaker 1 (00:04):
You know, I miss a week and you guys are
just old me like a mocking bird on a crystal jewel.
No one's against you. By speaking of nobody against us.
How about the George Pickens trade to the Dallas Cowboys?
Are they Backshane?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I mean no, it's still the off season.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
But I I having more and more than your a
complete clown show.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
So what I did was when I when I posted
a quick thought on our Twitter account, the Fanatic seven
six that you can you can listen to all of
our quick thoughts there. I had talked about how this
is sort of a love hate trade for me with
George Pickens. Right, So for those that don't remember, he
was traded for a third rounder next year and then
a fifth rounder in twenty twenty seven, and the Cowboys
in return got a sixth round pick, including George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
But George Pickens, what you.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Get is an established receiver who is physical and is
able to win those one on one matchups beause they
don't have on the roster, and he's also a solid blocker.
The issues stem from and Dylan, you brought this up
obviously off off Mike, that that sort of like contendency
that you see on on the field when he's like
frush at he's not getting targets or is that I
makeup that said he's always bleeping open or whatever. It is,
(01:05):
like the the extra curricular activities, if we want to
call it, for lack of a better word, that's the
stuff that's going to concern people. And yeah, you have
CD Lamb right, Well yeah, but Ceede Lamb was gonna
be the nuther one receiver.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
That's not the issue.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
The issue was one receiver.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
The issue is that if you look at their roster,
they don't have a number two receiver. They have a
bunch of guys who are third or fourth options who
are forced to play to the number receiver.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You're telling me that Pickens is going to be happy
and humbled being the number two receiver.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I think he's not gonna have a choice.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You're telling me that he is going to be happy
because that's what this trade is. Because you do have
CD right right, that's the obvious choice here in Dallas
that you're your number one receiver. It's also one of
your number one selling jerseys, right.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
But that doesn't stop other teams with two t.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I bring this drama to Dallas when you're trying to
actually be something. That's my problem because.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's a bold move and they ain't made bold moves
since the Amario Cooper trade.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
This has been the best off season.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Overall they've had in like five six years in terms
of trades, free agency, and draft because they're not just
sitting by and just letting stuff happen. They're actually going
out and being aggressive, which I don't know if it's
gonna transit to anything, but at least the change of
culture to change of pace.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's different than what they've only been doing.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Now you're saying this as a Cowboys hater, I want
to hear from someone like Ty who who has no
objectivity again or against the Cowboys, how he feels about it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Where am I a hater is? I'm just asking questions
on you weekly talk.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
About Cowboys fans.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You Cowboys fans out there, you delusional Cowboys fans.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But I honestly have to ask, like, why does this
make sense to you as a Cowboy fan? This wouldn't
make sense to me if he became to New Orleans. Oh,
lobby's the number one choice, right, You've got number one
choices everywhere?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Why can't they have two number ones? M Wittsburg, the Steels,
the Bengals have two number ones. The Dolphins have two
number ones. Why can't teams two number ones? You have
a number one, you have a number two. That's it.
It's a passing league. I think that's changing. I like
Pickens a lot. This is a guy.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I was very said that the Browns did not taken
the second round when the Steelers got him, and all
my friends there are Steels fans, I knowli you text
them all. I was like, hey, you got a dog Pickens.
Obviously we know the only thing holding Pickens back is
his own mind. He he he wants the ball, but
there's a not a better receiver in the deep ball,
which the Cowboys really lacked the deep ball.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Right, that's something that that's an area they need to
improve in. Was the deep ball?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Right? Yes, I think Pickens will take over as the
number one tooth be told. I think he's bear at
fifty to fifty balls. I think he's better at the
deep ball. I think Steeden Lamb is gonna become more
of a short yack type of guy. You get, you
give him the ball quick, he's gonna get a feel
make something happen, which is where ced Lamb excels. So
I think this is a good thing for Ceedee Lamb.
I think Ceedee Lamb is going is gonna get less
(03:45):
wear and tear less targets.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
But I think his yardage is not gonna change.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I think we're I think they're your going to diversify
how they gave him the ball, which is what you
want for Ceedee Lamb and someone of his stature.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But how long before Pickens just erupts?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
It's going to but you know, you know what stops
Pickens from erupting? Winning?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But they are they said to win.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I think I think this is the best situation. I'm
just asking, no, I'm to answer that question. I think
it's the best situation that Pickens has been in. Pickens
is played with trash QB as a trash QB and
I know shame. We probably talk about this the next hour.
You want to shaw at Bateman, but when you look
at the stats with a worse QB consistently year over year,
(04:23):
George Pickens has been better, has has put up more yards,
and you look at the guys he's catching balls from
you like he you put up a thousand yard season
with no number two targets on your team. With this guy, yeah,
I would take that. I mean, he's he's no different
than DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Are you asking the same question if the Steelers, excuse me,
the Cowboys traded for DK Metcalf instead of George Pickens.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
No, not not. They do the same thing. They do
the same thing. They don't do the not not in
the game, not Calf.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It is different.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Now, how's you different?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Matt Matcalf throws fit how you want to? He throws fits,
he gets in the same There's a reason why that
meme is circulating of those two just beating living crap
out of DB's right.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yeah, that's their lord. They get physical. They're physical.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And anyone that questions that Pickens is not gonna block
for someone, you're you're not watching the games, you lied.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Pickens is definitely gonna block.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He might get he might get your PI, but he's
always gonna block because that man is looking.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
To be physical. He's looking to catch a ball downfield.
He's looking at embarrassed guys.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And I think if you're the Cowboys and you're looking
for you lack a run game and you're looking to
stretch the field. Pickens was your best option stilling a
rookie deal, and he he did not even want to
talk extension because he believes he's a number one. So
if I'm a guy, if I'm trading for a guy
that's on going on a contract year and he believes
himself that much, why not try to benefit from that
(05:44):
one year. Oh, you think you're a number one guy
and you want to prove it because you want that
type of money. Bring it on, Let's stretch the ball downfield,
let'sigure it out.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And Dylan, you asked an unfair question when you asked
about the trade. You said, are they back to put
them over the edge. The reality is like if any
other team had made this trade, you would you would
be because it made their team better.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You asked if they were, which means you, which means
you're implying that is this a move that because it
is a Super Bowl. I think it's a move that
makes them better today than they were yesterday, so to speak.
And that's the point of how is fair question? It
is an unfair question because you wouldn't ask about other teams.
You wouldn't ask, is that?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I would.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You would not ask that the Ravens are going to
the Super Bowl? Yes, no, I would.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
No, you would say now, you would say things like
now the Ravens are legit there in the AFC. You
would not say that about the Cowboys because if you're
if you're a firmed hatred for the team, Jesus time,
am I wrong here?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I'm gonna be really honest with.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You, guys.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I'm asking because if I'm a Cowboy fan, Shane, Yes,
what I'm looking at is that this trade is not
just going to give me to the playoffs. It's gonna
give me to win the Super Bowl, right right? And
you're also giving away your future. Yes, but you ask
because nothing but drama. And I would ask that for anybody.
I asked if they're bad. You asked they're bad. I
did ask if they were back? Are they back?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
You can't say they right, But that doesn't mean there's
a bad trade.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I don't think he's a bad trade. I think it's
a good trade. And how are you giving away the future?
Because they would they give up a second? I think
Pickens is worth more than that alone, based off his career.
So I don't think you're giving away much. You're you're
betting on a guy on the contract year and if
it doesn't work and it's tumultuous in a year, you
walk away. I actually like it in that regard because
you're not stuck with him. If it works in year one,
(07:20):
you pay him. If it doesn't, you let him walk.
But I gotta say, I really enjoyed this. Is this
what it's like having a conversation with me. You guys
are just going back and forth. It was cool, just
kind of watch out.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This was like, well, you know, because here's my thing.
Ceedee Lamb is your guy in Dallas. You're bringing this
guy in and you're telling me that Ceedee Lamb's going
to be And.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He's got the yak all day long and that's what
he did in Cosy Act and that's what he does,
right and so but I think at the end of
the day, you're gonna end up with two receivers later
that want the max contracts Ceede lam already has.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think that's the future of the NFL. I mean,
when you look at the Bengals, that's what they're doing.
I think it's the future the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I don't think the Cowboys are back. I think they
made a move. They're not but they're not back. You know,
I can gumately answer that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I guess it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Cowboy Hater one hour Down, One hour to go. Fanatics
on ticket seven sixty
You know, I miss a week and you guys are
just old me like a mocking bird on a crystal jewel.
No one's against you. By speaking of nobody against us.
How about the George Pickens trade to the Dallas Cowboys?
Are they Backshane?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I mean no, it's still the off season.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
But I I having more and more than your a
complete clown show.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
So what I did was when I when I posted
a quick thought on our Twitter account, the Fanatic seven
six that you can you can listen to all of
our quick thoughts there. I had talked about how this
is sort of a love hate trade for me with
George Pickens. Right, So for those that don't remember, he
was traded for a third rounder next year and then
a fifth rounder in twenty twenty seven, and the Cowboys
in return got a sixth round pick, including George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
But George Pickens, what you.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Get is an established receiver who is physical and is
able to win those one on one matchups beause they
don't have on the roster, and he's also a solid blocker.
The issues stem from and Dylan, you brought this up
obviously off off Mike, that that sort of like contendency
that you see on on the field when he's like
frush at he's not getting targets or is that I
makeup that said he's always bleeping open or whatever. It is,
(01:05):
like the the extra curricular activities, if we want to
call it, for lack of a better word, that's the
stuff that's going to concern people. And yeah, you have
CD Lamb right, Well yeah, but Ceede Lamb was gonna
be the nuther one receiver.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
That's not the issue.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
The issue was one receiver.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
The issue is that if you look at their roster,
they don't have a number two receiver. They have a
bunch of guys who are third or fourth options who
are forced to play to the number receiver.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You're telling me that Pickens is going to be happy
and humbled being the number two receiver.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I think he's not gonna have a choice.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You're telling me that he is going to be happy
because that's what this trade is. Because you do have
CD right right, that's the obvious choice here in Dallas
that you're your number one receiver. It's also one of
your number one selling jerseys, right.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
But that doesn't stop other teams with two t.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I bring this drama to Dallas when you're trying to
actually be something. That's my problem because.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's a bold move and they ain't made bold moves
since the Amario Cooper trade.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
This has been the best off season.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Overall they've had in like five six years in terms
of trades, free agency, and draft because they're not just
sitting by and just letting stuff happen. They're actually going
out and being aggressive, which I don't know if it's
gonna transit to anything, but at least the change of
culture to change of pace.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's different than what they've only been doing.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Now you're saying this as a Cowboys hater, I want
to hear from someone like Ty who who has no
objectivity again or against the Cowboys, how he feels about it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Where am I a hater is? I'm just asking questions
on you weekly talk.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
About Cowboys fans.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You Cowboys fans out there, you delusional Cowboys fans.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But I honestly have to ask, like, why does this
make sense to you as a Cowboy fan? This wouldn't
make sense to me if he became to New Orleans. Oh,
lobby's the number one choice, right, You've got number one
choices everywhere?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Why can't they have two number ones? M Wittsburg, the Steels,
the Bengals have two number ones. The Dolphins have two
number ones. Why can't teams two number ones? You have
a number one, you have a number two. That's it.
It's a passing league. I think that's changing. I like
Pickens a lot. This is a guy.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I was very said that the Browns did not taken
the second round when the Steelers got him, and all
my friends there are Steels fans, I knowli you text
them all. I was like, hey, you got a dog Pickens.
Obviously we know the only thing holding Pickens back is
his own mind. He he he wants the ball, but
there's a not a better receiver in the deep ball,
which the Cowboys really lacked the deep ball.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Right, that's something that that's an area they need to
improve in. Was the deep ball?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Right? Yes, I think Pickens will take over as the
number one tooth be told. I think he's bear at
fifty to fifty balls. I think he's better at the
deep ball. I think Steeden Lamb is gonna become more
of a short yack type of guy. You get, you
give him the ball quick, he's gonna get a feel
make something happen, which is where ced Lamb excels. So
I think this is a good thing for Ceedee Lamb.
I think Ceedee Lamb is going is gonna get less
(03:45):
wear and tear less targets.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
But I think his yardage is not gonna change.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I think we're I think they're your going to diversify
how they gave him the ball, which is what you
want for Ceedee Lamb and someone of his stature.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But how long before Pickens just erupts?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
It's going to but you know, you know what stops
Pickens from erupting? Winning?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But they are they said to win.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I think I think this is the best situation. I'm
just asking, no, I'm to answer that question. I think
it's the best situation that Pickens has been in. Pickens
is played with trash QB as a trash QB and
I know shame. We probably talk about this the next hour.
You want to shaw at Bateman, but when you look
at the stats with a worse QB consistently year over year,
(04:23):
George Pickens has been better, has has put up more yards,
and you look at the guys he's catching balls from
you like he you put up a thousand yard season
with no number two targets on your team. With this guy, yeah,
I would take that. I mean, he's he's no different
than DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Are you asking the same question if the Steelers, excuse me,
the Cowboys traded for DK Metcalf instead of George Pickens.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
No, not not. They do the same thing. They do
the same thing. They don't do the not not in
the game, not Calf.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It is different.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Now, how's you different?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Matt Matcalf throws fit how you want to? He throws fits,
he gets in the same There's a reason why that
meme is circulating of those two just beating living crap
out of DB's right.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yeah, that's their lord. They get physical. They're physical.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And anyone that questions that Pickens is not gonna block
for someone, you're you're not watching the games, you lied.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Pickens is definitely gonna block.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He might get he might get your PI, but he's
always gonna block because that man is looking.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
To be physical. He's looking to catch a ball downfield.
He's looking at embarrassed guys.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And I think if you're the Cowboys and you're looking
for you lack a run game and you're looking to
stretch the field. Pickens was your best option stilling a
rookie deal, and he he did not even want to
talk extension because he believes he's a number one. So
if I'm a guy, if I'm trading for a guy
that's on going on a contract year and he believes
himself that much, why not try to benefit from that
(05:44):
one year. Oh, you think you're a number one guy
and you want to prove it because you want that
type of money. Bring it on, Let's stretch the ball downfield,
let'sigure it out.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And Dylan, you asked an unfair question when you asked
about the trade. You said, are they back to put
them over the edge. The reality is like if any
other team had made this trade, you would you would
be because it made their team better.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You asked if they were, which means you, which means
you're implying that is this a move that because it
is a Super Bowl. I think it's a move that
makes them better today than they were yesterday, so to speak.
And that's the point of how is fair question? It
is an unfair question because you wouldn't ask about other teams.
You wouldn't ask, is that?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I would.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You would not ask that the Ravens are going to
the Super Bowl? Yes, no, I would.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
No, you would say now, you would say things like
now the Ravens are legit there in the AFC. You
would not say that about the Cowboys because if you're
if you're a firmed hatred for the team, Jesus time,
am I wrong here?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I'm gonna be really honest with.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You, guys.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I'm asking because if I'm a Cowboy fan, Shane, Yes,
what I'm looking at is that this trade is not
just going to give me to the playoffs. It's gonna
give me to win the Super Bowl, right right? And
you're also giving away your future. Yes, but you ask
because nothing but drama. And I would ask that for anybody.
I asked if they're bad. You asked they're bad. I
did ask if they were back? Are they back?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
You can't say they right, But that doesn't mean there's
a bad trade.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I don't think he's a bad trade. I think it's
a good trade. And how are you giving away the future?
Because they would they give up a second? I think
Pickens is worth more than that alone, based off his career.
So I don't think you're giving away much. You're you're
betting on a guy on the contract year and if
it doesn't work and it's tumultuous in a year, you
walk away. I actually like it in that regard because
you're not stuck with him. If it works in year one,
(07:20):
you pay him. If it doesn't, you let him walk.
But I gotta say, I really enjoyed this. Is this
what it's like having a conversation with me. You guys
are just going back and forth. It was cool, just
kind of watch out.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This was like, well, you know, because here's my thing.
Ceedee Lamb is your guy in Dallas. You're bringing this
guy in and you're telling me that Ceedee Lamb's going
to be And.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He's got the yak all day long and that's what
he did in Cosy Act and that's what he does,
right and so but I think at the end of
the day, you're gonna end up with two receivers later
that want the max contracts Ceede lam already has.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think that's the future of the NFL. I mean,
when you look at the Bengals, that's what they're doing.
I think it's the future the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I don't think the Cowboys are back. I think they
made a move. They're not but they're not back. You know,
I can gumately answer that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I guess it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
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