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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Our number two underway on the Fanatics right here on
Ticket seven sixty. I am your host, Dylan Emory along
with ty Sujik and Shane Carter, as we roll you
into your Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome into it.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
You can find us on social media's Let's see yep
and I love breaking news.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, we faced the Ducks. I love it. This is
what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We produced on the fly, folks. I was asking a
question about OHU softball.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Because I'm a little bit nervous.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
But they play the Oregon Ducks this afternoon. I guess
if they win that one, they get their self into
the semi finals, right like that wreck.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, because they would eliminate organ that that would be
a double loss.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah. Yeah, okay, so that's good. I like it. I'm
not nervous.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, I'm nervous. I'm the winner go home today, winner
go home now. They have one out of a loser's
bracket before. I'm just letting you know what Texas Softball
yesterday winning over OU.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh you got lucky in the first game, walk off,
Homer Man.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
We'll talk about my superstition, going back to the first
hour I was living in a group text message and
you know, we were celebrating Oklahoma losing and then the
walk off and I'm like, literally, w t S was
a part of that group chat? You were not. I
did not start the chat. You're talking to group chats
on the side. Yeah, man, I got yeah, I gotta
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call check. What the skibbity?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Man, I got a couple of softball sometimes he got
the riz. Yeah, I do not.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know what, I don't have a yacht.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, gyat it's like a yak apparently. Anyway, I got
I got fitted for my suit, you know, for my wedding,
and yeah, apparently I have one of those.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
They had to take it out in the back. So
that was cool.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Okay, speaking of backsides, So this week, I actually want
to get into this.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Little college football, right.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
College football obviously the SEC Big ten, somewhat a little
bit of Big twelve, just kidding, Chin, I love you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Obviously, we're a team of twelve and we've got our
last year of the team of twelve. This year they're
going to be expanding, I believe, to fourteen after that
and then sixteen.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's just going to continue. I don't know why we
need to go one year fourteen.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If the next you're gonna say at all, just jump
to sixteen, Just do the top twenty five and put
them in a playoff. That's that's the bottom line, I mean,
not the bracket though. Here's the things SEC Big Ten.
Can we agree or disagree that those are the two
power conferences here in college football? Yes, people watch college
football because either one of those schools is winning correct
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or playing correct.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well, they watched first for their school. But overall, yeah,
those are the most marketable differences.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Here's the thing. They want to propose, this sixteen team
college football playoff. Not one conference, but two would get
four automatic bids apiece. So you're talking in the Big
ten because they'd be one of the ones in the
past here and then the SEC. You would have four
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automatic bids out of those conferences, leaving you fifty percent
for Big twelve. Accy. How do you guys feel about that?
I don't think it's fair. I don't And here's you know,
I'm gonna get off my little SEC high horse shape.
I don't think it's fair, right. I think you still
have to have your your conference bid winners, right. I
(03:17):
want them to flip it like they do with college basketball, right,
so you get like the Conference USA champion who has
to face all Panama football whatever, let me see it.
I want to watch it. I want to watch an
upset possibly. See, here's the thing with those two major ones.
I can understand two major bids, right, so you don't
you don't get so you don't get what happened to Georgia.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, so you don't get penalized for losing you in
your conference championship. Right, So if you make it your
conference championship in those two conferences, you're automatically in right, right,
And what I would like to see instead of Alabama
versus Conference USA champion number two from you know, Big
ten versus Conference USA champion. You know we're not gonna
put you up against you know, Ohio State, Michigan ro
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out the gate. Let's go get number two. So Penn State, Yeah,
you know, you see what you do? See what you
do there? You know what I'm saying, Like, I would
prefer that because the winner of that will get a buye, right,
So I would prefer that at least give you these
other teams a fighting chance, I would say, because it
means you know, when it comes down to it, for
the most part, it's probably gonna be a Big Ten
or I see team that wins it football wise. True, So,
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but you want these games to be competitive. You don't
want these matchups for the sake of having games, right, Right,
But I think granting four is absolutely absurd. And when
when I think about it, when you get down to
like the fourth best team in the Big Ten r CC, like, yeah,
they're solid, but are they really that much better than
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a conference champion elsewhere? Like team number four in the
Big Ten versus Boise State. And if I'm looking at
last season, I'm taking Boise State over team number four
and Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I don't know. I think it was like Minnesota or.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oregon and Penn State all made the playoff. I remember
the Illinois right. You're right though, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
These big schools, like Big Tens in SEC is known
for this, right, They plug holes in their in their schedule,
right because I believe like even for example, Oklahoma's facing
some I don't know, technical tech school, you know, and
it's but it's there for what to give that school
some money and for us to win by fifty right,
(05:26):
And I'm not talking about those small teams, because even
those teams that come in and volunteer to play these
bigger schools, they are not conference champions. Who you got
who was number four in the Big ten?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Ohio State the national champion?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Oh my god, Yeah, I was wrong, but I know
in that case I was Yeah, in that case, I
was wrong, breaking news. Yeah, but it would be Illinois
below them. But that's it's not gonna be like that
every year because Indiana. We forgot about Indiana. Yeah, oh yeah,
we forgot about Indiana and animated the playoffs and Indiana
was at two.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So Oregon, Indiana, Penn State, Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But the thing is is the fillers that are there
that play Alabama's the you know, we're not talking about
those schools. I'm talking about the conference champions of those
of where those schools are from.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, you would see some upsets, you know, because Alabama
would not choose to play Let's let's be smart here,
North Dakota State, for example, right, who would want to
put them on their schedule in the preseason out of
the SEC?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
North Dakota State, no one, because they've been so dominant
SEC and you're gonna avoid that.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
But you remember what happened, right, Remember they would go
play Kansas and Kansas State and they knocked off Kansas State,
and like all the bigger schools are like, we're good,
we don't need to play you.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Now. I still got Colorado at the starter last year.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, And that's the thing is give And I know
that they're in the different division for playoffs, but they
have that right that playoff is right. Yeah, this this
college football player.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You don't give four bits.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And I think they want to say that because look
at what we just said out loud.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, Ohio State was forced. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I don't know why they tried to read been the
wheel when we've already seen such tremendous success in the
FCC and the way they do it. And I think
I think we're just wasting money in time by trying
reinvent the wheel and do something different.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You have to, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
College football has gotten it wrong for several years because
you've had the you can never lose a game during
the regular season, right. You had the BCS which was terrible,
that was all points and it was a computer and
everybody's like, look a computer picked it, which was advantage
for OU for a lot of years, right, Yeah, there
was the year that Texas Tech knocked off Texas.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, Texas Tech comes into Norman and what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
The BRAF beat them by fifty and guess what Bob
Stoops gets to say, Well, we just beat the number
one team in the country, you know. And that happened
down here back in I think two thousand and eight
eight when they played Missouri, and Missouri at the time
with number one, Oh you was ranked number nine. Well,
OHU goes in there and beats the thirty four to ten.
And then I remember in the press conference because I
was covering it, Bob Stoops is there, you know, making
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his speech like, hey, we deserve to be number two
or at number one. We just knocked off the number
one team, not once, but twice in one season because
they did beat Missouri back earlier in Norman.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
So they've got it wrong since then. They're still getting
it wrong now, yes.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And I think and the reality is that for so long,
the main the people in charge of college football have
talked about keeping the game sacred, keeping the traditions of
the of college football alive.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But like as.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Money has become more and more prevalent, in the business
of college sports. It has overtaken like the what you
call common sense of it all. The reality is like, yes,
y'all are absolutely right, we'll like the SEC and the
Big Ten are the big draws of college football, but
that doesn't necessarily mean that they should be the only
teams that that would that would control everything. I understand
money to power, money is power. Money talks a lot,
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but but but at what point are you saying, Okay,
we care about the tradition of the game as opposed
to this is just how it is.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
This is the business of it all. See and this
is this goes far beyond football. But this is why
I have issue with this whole traditionalist talk. Uh, I
think we have the same issue beyond football. And I'm
not even going to go in that ran You can
basically pick up on what I'm putting down in that regard,
But when has the game of football ever been sacred,
like since the NCABLA has existed. If we're going to
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go into that, then we need to make a mid
major championship. Then needs to be like you know how
college basketball has, Uh, you have the Big Tournament, but
then you have like three other sub tournaments beyond that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
For the T and the yeah an C I T
I believe the.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I T and our CID or someone that C I
B C I T N I T whatever. But like,
if that's the case, then I would like to see
a mid major like we're max schools, you know, mid
Mountain West schools play each other for the best of
that And maybe that's how you do it. You do
multiple brackets and then whoever comes out of that will
play the winner of of of top bracket.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I have made the argument, and this is what how
I think.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The playoffs should be, Okay, and I think you take
it back to high school a little bit. So in
high school and in Texas, and I know you know this.
You have read your three non division they call the
division games, and then you have your seven division games
ten ten games regular season yep. And then the playoffs
are sixty four teams and they're ranked one through sixteen
across like four.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Different brackets exactly. So I would have it this way.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I would have it to where conferences you get seven
seven right conference games every want to do it two
to three non conference games and then and then you
go based on rankings into the championships and then you
have a one through sixty four tournament, the same as
March Madness.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And that's how I would do it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So instead of having twelve games, you would have six
potential playoff games for the winner.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's how I think it should be done.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I don't hate that if you short in the season
and you get rid of some of these fluff games
the beginning, right for money, because now the TV contracts
move into the latter part of the season, into these games, right,
And now you tell the coach, hey, it's an equal
shot for everybody. You're you're you're getting a spot as
long as you're winning games.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, your conference could win the championship.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
So as long as you're you're dominating your conference, which
you could, you have control over out recruit but the
guy next to.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You, right, and shame the point there with the whole
you know these smaller schools, right, and focus in on UTSA.
A couple of years ago, they win the conference championship.
We didn't see him play really anybody. They went to
a I don't know what bow game they went to,
but they're not getting the recognition that he deserved. If
let's say, for example, UTSA football goes undefeated, right, they
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just roll through everything.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Where are we going to see him at the New
Mexico Bowl? Do they deserve that? Or do they deserve
a shot to face an Ohio State, to face a
University of Oklahoma?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Do they deserve that shot? Now?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The smaller schools, for example, like UTSA this year they'll
face Texas A and M week one.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Okay, so you get the A. You get the smaller
schools to.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Go into their conference play with a potential loss already,
you know. And the bigger story is because let's let's
run the table of UTSA. Right, they win against A
and M next year and everybody's like, holy moly, UTSA football. Right,
then they go into their conference. You know what's gonna
happen with the experts? Well, UTSA is a smaller school. Yeah,
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it doesn't matter because you're not rewarding the school that's
working their ass off to be undefeated.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, I mean, and they get the the Dust dot
Com Bowl or the Armedforces Network dot Com Bowl, Mayo Bowl,
and they don't get a chance to play in a
playoff where they could potentially knock off What do we
love about college basketball?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And March madness. Anybody can win it. The underdog story. Yeah, yeah,
we want the underdog story, and I don't get that
with college football exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And I think you can move some of these irrelevant
bowl games into those those playoff games. Yeah yeah, yeah,
those are playoff games now. So why not shorten the
season to eight or nine actual games?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
You have your conference games, and let's say we give
you one fluff game before that, especially for the for
the major team game.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Two because there are some teams that have rivalries outside
of the conference.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Okay, yeah, so too, right, But either way, we make
it ten games in the season, and then you start
going into you know, you get eleventh game for your
for your conference championship, so one last game. But then
you start getting into this one through sixty four seating,
right because now we're removing one last week of bs
fluff games, which can room teams like UTSA because you've
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had the success in the past couple of years where
all right, like, yeah, U.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
T has a conference to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
But say, let's say, if I'm honestly, if I'm Michigan
right now and I'm going through the adjustments, Michigan's going
on I'm not booking at UTSA right now.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm should Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I know you're saying, well, oh you is gonna bring
money in itself because those are two story blue blood
you know. I'm saying, yeah, those two story program and
if you lose to oh You, you know, oh You,
it's not gonna go down as bad. Like no oneh
forgives Michigan for losing APPALATIONI state.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
No, they remember that, they remember that, you know I'm saying,
So if you lose Oklahoma, it's a blip in history, right, Yeah, Sure,
you schedule UTSA that's been pretty solid these past five
years and you lose the UTSA in the big house.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I think that I think you can move past that too.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Though Mattplach State was different because Appli State was Division
two and Michigan was number.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Five at the time. Well no, they were s c s.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
They were champion at the time, but there was yeah exactly,
but That's what I'm saying. But no one lets Michigan
forget that. Like soon as Michigan struggles, that game film
pops up every time on.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The s P didn't didn't app State Texas, and it
was like yeah and nobody Yeah, nobody's gonna forgive the.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Exactly app State was a good team. This is not
a shot app State, they were a good team. And
as a Michigan fan, but I'm saying no one forgets that,
and I'm just saying it. It creates like we're going
back to North Dakota State a much more difficult way
for those guys to schedule. So let's remove that scheduling
piece where we're paying these teams, but strategic like we
want to win and we got to pay the school.
But if you're too good that they can't schedule as
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strong as opponents. Because if we're a French team or
we're rebuilding, I'm not taking that game.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't know. The playoff needs to change.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And the reason why I say that is because of
schools like UTSA. Now I would tell you ui W,
but they're in a different division, they're in different whatever
they have it they have, they actually have a better FCS.
They've got a better outcome in the playoffs. And I
think that, you know, Division one football needs to look
at the FCS and figure that out as well.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So coming up, what I want to get into is
a little bit of Spurs talk.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Right, we got some Spurs talking to do on the
fanatics on ticket seven sixty
Our number two underway on the Fanatics right here on
Ticket seven sixty. I am your host, Dylan Emory along
with ty Sujik and Shane Carter, as we roll you
into your Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome into it.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
You can find us on social media's Let's see yep
and I love breaking news.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, we faced the Ducks. I love it. This is
what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We produced on the fly, folks. I was asking a
question about OHU softball.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Because I'm a little bit nervous.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
But they play the Oregon Ducks this afternoon. I guess
if they win that one, they get their self into
the semi finals, right like that wreck.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, because they would eliminate organ that that would be
a double loss.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah. Yeah, okay, so that's good. I like it. I'm
not nervous.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, I'm nervous. I'm the winner go home today, winner
go home now. They have one out of a loser's
bracket before. I'm just letting you know what Texas Softball
yesterday winning over OU.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh you got lucky in the first game, walk off,
Homer Man.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
We'll talk about my superstition, going back to the first
hour I was living in a group text message and
you know, we were celebrating Oklahoma losing and then the
walk off and I'm like, literally, w t S was
a part of that group chat? You were not. I
did not start the chat. You're talking to group chats
on the side. Yeah, man, I got yeah, I gotta
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call check. What the skibbity?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Man, I got a couple of softball sometimes he got
the riz. Yeah, I do not.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know what, I don't have a yacht.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, gyat it's like a yak apparently. Anyway, I got
I got fitted for my suit, you know, for my wedding,
and yeah, apparently I have one of those.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
They had to take it out in the back. So
that was cool.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Okay, speaking of backsides, So this week, I actually want
to get into this.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Little college football, right.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
College football obviously the SEC Big ten, somewhat a little
bit of Big twelve, just kidding, Chin, I love you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Obviously, we're a team of twelve and we've got our
last year of the team of twelve. This year they're
going to be expanding, I believe, to fourteen after that
and then sixteen.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's just going to continue. I don't know why we
need to go one year fourteen.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If the next you're gonna say at all, just jump
to sixteen, Just do the top twenty five and put
them in a playoff. That's that's the bottom line, I mean,
not the bracket though. Here's the things SEC Big Ten.
Can we agree or disagree that those are the two
power conferences here in college football? Yes, people watch college
football because either one of those schools is winning correct
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or playing correct.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well, they watched first for their school. But overall, yeah,
those are the most marketable differences.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Here's the thing. They want to propose, this sixteen team
college football playoff. Not one conference, but two would get
four automatic bids apiece. So you're talking in the Big
ten because they'd be one of the ones in the
past here and then the SEC. You would have four
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automatic bids out of those conferences, leaving you fifty percent
for Big twelve. Accy. How do you guys feel about that?
I don't think it's fair. I don't And here's you know,
I'm gonna get off my little SEC high horse shape.
I don't think it's fair, right. I think you still
have to have your your conference bid winners, right. I
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want them to flip it like they do with college basketball, right,
so you get like the Conference USA champion who has
to face all Panama football whatever, let me see it.
I want to watch it. I want to watch an
upset possibly. See, here's the thing with those two major ones.
I can understand two major bids, right, so you don't
you don't get so you don't get what happened to Georgia.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, so you don't get penalized for losing you in
your conference championship. Right, So if you make it your
conference championship in those two conferences, you're automatically in right, right,
And what I would like to see instead of Alabama
versus Conference USA champion number two from you know, Big
ten versus Conference USA champion. You know we're not gonna
put you up against you know, Ohio State, Michigan ro
(04:00):
out the gate. Let's go get number two. So Penn State, Yeah,
you know, you see what you do? See what you
do there? You know what I'm saying, Like, I would
prefer that because the winner of that will get a buye, right,
So I would prefer that at least give you these
other teams a fighting chance, I would say, because it
means you know, when it comes down to it, for
the most part, it's probably gonna be a Big Ten
or I see team that wins it football wise. True, So,
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but you want these games to be competitive. You don't
want these matchups for the sake of having games, right, Right,
But I think granting four is absolutely absurd. And when
when I think about it, when you get down to
like the fourth best team in the Big Ten r CC, like, yeah,
they're solid, but are they really that much better than
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a conference champion elsewhere? Like team number four in the
Big Ten versus Boise State. And if I'm looking at
last season, I'm taking Boise State over team number four
and Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I don't know. I think it was like Minnesota or.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oregon and Penn State all made the playoff. I remember
the Illinois right. You're right though, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
These big schools, like Big Tens in SEC is known
for this, right, They plug holes in their in their schedule,
right because I believe like even for example, Oklahoma's facing
some I don't know, technical tech school, you know, and
it's but it's there for what to give that school
some money and for us to win by fifty right,
(05:26):
And I'm not talking about those small teams, because even
those teams that come in and volunteer to play these
bigger schools, they are not conference champions. Who you got
who was number four in the Big ten?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Ohio State the national champion?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Oh my god, Yeah, I was wrong, but I know
in that case I was Yeah, in that case, I
was wrong, breaking news. Yeah, but it would be Illinois
below them. But that's it's not gonna be like that
every year because Indiana. We forgot about Indiana. Yeah, oh yeah,
we forgot about Indiana and animated the playoffs and Indiana
was at two.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So Oregon, Indiana, Penn State, Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But the thing is is the fillers that are there
that play Alabama's the you know, we're not talking about
those schools. I'm talking about the conference champions of those
of where those schools are from.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, you would see some upsets, you know, because Alabama
would not choose to play Let's let's be smart here,
North Dakota State, for example, right, who would want to
put them on their schedule in the preseason out of
the SEC?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
North Dakota State, no one, because they've been so dominant
SEC and you're gonna avoid that.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
But you remember what happened, right, Remember they would go
play Kansas and Kansas State and they knocked off Kansas State,
and like all the bigger schools are like, we're good,
we don't need to play you.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Now. I still got Colorado at the starter last year.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, And that's the thing is give And I know
that they're in the different division for playoffs, but they
have that right that playoff is right. Yeah, this this
college football player.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You don't give four bits.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And I think they want to say that because look
at what we just said out loud.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, Ohio State was forced. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I don't know why they tried to read been the
wheel when we've already seen such tremendous success in the
FCC and the way they do it. And I think
I think we're just wasting money in time by trying
reinvent the wheel and do something different.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You have to, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
College football has gotten it wrong for several years because
you've had the you can never lose a game during
the regular season, right. You had the BCS which was terrible,
that was all points and it was a computer and
everybody's like, look a computer picked it, which was advantage
for OU for a lot of years, right, Yeah, there
was the year that Texas Tech knocked off Texas.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, Texas Tech comes into Norman and what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
The BRAF beat them by fifty and guess what Bob
Stoops gets to say, Well, we just beat the number
one team in the country, you know. And that happened
down here back in I think two thousand and eight
eight when they played Missouri, and Missouri at the time
with number one, Oh you was ranked number nine. Well,
OHU goes in there and beats the thirty four to ten.
And then I remember in the press conference because I
was covering it, Bob Stoops is there, you know, making
(08:00):
his speech like, hey, we deserve to be number two
or at number one. We just knocked off the number
one team, not once, but twice in one season because
they did beat Missouri back earlier in Norman.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
So they've got it wrong since then. They're still getting
it wrong now, yes.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And I think and the reality is that for so long,
the main the people in charge of college football have
talked about keeping the game sacred, keeping the traditions of
the of college football alive.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But like as.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Money has become more and more prevalent, in the business
of college sports. It has overtaken like the what you
call common sense of it all. The reality is like, yes,
y'all are absolutely right, we'll like the SEC and the
Big Ten are the big draws of college football, but
that doesn't necessarily mean that they should be the only
teams that that would that would control everything. I understand
money to power, money is power. Money talks a lot,
(08:49):
but but but at what point are you saying, Okay,
we care about the tradition of the game as opposed
to this is just how it is.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
This is the business of it all. See and this
is this goes far beyond football. But this is why
I have issue with this whole traditionalist talk. Uh, I
think we have the same issue beyond football. And I'm
not even going to go in that ran You can
basically pick up on what I'm putting down in that regard,
But when has the game of football ever been sacred,
like since the NCABLA has existed. If we're going to
(09:16):
go into that, then we need to make a mid
major championship. Then needs to be like you know how
college basketball has, Uh, you have the Big Tournament, but
then you have like three other sub tournaments beyond that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
For the T and the yeah an C I T
I believe the.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I T and our CID or someone that C I
B C I T N I T whatever. But like,
if that's the case, then I would like to see
a mid major like we're max schools, you know, mid
Mountain West schools play each other for the best of
that And maybe that's how you do it. You do
multiple brackets and then whoever comes out of that will
play the winner of of of top bracket.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I have made the argument, and this is what how
I think.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The playoffs should be, Okay, and I think you take
it back to high school a little bit. So in
high school and in Texas, and I know you know this.
You have read your three non division they call the
division games, and then you have your seven division games
ten ten games regular season yep. And then the playoffs
are sixty four teams and they're ranked one through sixteen
across like four.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Different brackets exactly. So I would have it this way.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I would have it to where conferences you get seven
seven right conference games every want to do it two
to three non conference games and then and then you
go based on rankings into the championships and then you
have a one through sixty four tournament, the same as
March Madness.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And that's how I would do it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So instead of having twelve games, you would have six
potential playoff games for the winner.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's how I think it should be done.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I don't hate that if you short in the season
and you get rid of some of these fluff games
the beginning, right for money, because now the TV contracts
move into the latter part of the season, into these games, right,
And now you tell the coach, hey, it's an equal
shot for everybody. You're you're you're getting a spot as
long as you're winning games.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, your conference could win the championship.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
So as long as you're you're dominating your conference, which
you could, you have control over out recruit but the
guy next to.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You, right, and shame the point there with the whole
you know these smaller schools, right, and focus in on UTSA.
A couple of years ago, they win the conference championship.
We didn't see him play really anybody. They went to
a I don't know what bow game they went to,
but they're not getting the recognition that he deserved. If
let's say, for example, UTSA football goes undefeated, right, they
(11:19):
just roll through everything.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Where are we going to see him at the New
Mexico Bowl? Do they deserve that? Or do they deserve
a shot to face an Ohio State, to face a
University of Oklahoma?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Do they deserve that shot? Now?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The smaller schools, for example, like UTSA this year they'll
face Texas A and M week one.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Okay, so you get the A. You get the smaller
schools to.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Go into their conference play with a potential loss already,
you know. And the bigger story is because let's let's
run the table of UTSA. Right, they win against A
and M next year and everybody's like, holy moly, UTSA football. Right,
then they go into their conference. You know what's gonna
happen with the experts? Well, UTSA is a smaller school. Yeah,
(12:05):
it doesn't matter because you're not rewarding the school that's
working their ass off to be undefeated.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, I mean, and they get the the Dust dot
Com Bowl or the Armedforces Network dot Com Bowl, Mayo Bowl,
and they don't get a chance to play in a
playoff where they could potentially knock off What do we
love about college basketball?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And March madness. Anybody can win it. The underdog story. Yeah, yeah,
we want the underdog story, and I don't get that
with college football exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And I think you can move some of these irrelevant
bowl games into those those playoff games. Yeah yeah, yeah,
those are playoff games now. So why not shorten the
season to eight or nine actual games?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
You have your conference games, and let's say we give
you one fluff game before that, especially for the for
the major team game.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Two because there are some teams that have rivalries outside
of the conference.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Okay, yeah, so too, right, But either way, we make
it ten games in the season, and then you start
going into you know, you get eleventh game for your
for your conference championship, so one last game. But then
you start getting into this one through sixty four seating,
right because now we're removing one last week of bs
fluff games, which can room teams like UTSA because you've
(13:15):
had the success in the past couple of years where
all right, like, yeah, U.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
T has a conference to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
But say, let's say, if I'm honestly, if I'm Michigan
right now and I'm going through the adjustments, Michigan's going
on I'm not booking at UTSA right now.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm should Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I know you're saying, well, oh you is gonna bring
money in itself because those are two story blue blood
you know. I'm saying, yeah, those two story program and
if you lose to oh You, you know, oh You,
it's not gonna go down as bad. Like no oneh
forgives Michigan for losing APPALATIONI state.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
No, they remember that, they remember that, you know I'm saying,
So if you lose Oklahoma, it's a blip in history, right, Yeah, Sure,
you schedule UTSA that's been pretty solid these past five
years and you lose the UTSA in the big house.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I think that I think you can move past that too.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Though Mattplach State was different because Appli State was Division
two and Michigan was number.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Five at the time. Well no, they were s c s.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
They were champion at the time, but there was yeah exactly,
but That's what I'm saying. But no one lets Michigan
forget that. Like soon as Michigan struggles, that game film
pops up every time on.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The s P didn't didn't app State Texas, and it
was like yeah and nobody Yeah, nobody's gonna forgive the.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Exactly app State was a good team. This is not
a shot app State, they were a good team. And
as a Michigan fan, but I'm saying no one forgets that,
and I'm just saying it. It creates like we're going
back to North Dakota State a much more difficult way
for those guys to schedule. So let's remove that scheduling
piece where we're paying these teams, but strategic like we
want to win and we got to pay the school.
But if you're too good that they can't schedule as
(14:49):
strong as opponents. Because if we're a French team or
we're rebuilding, I'm not taking that game.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't know. The playoff needs to change.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And the reason why I say that is because of
schools like UTSA. Now I would tell you ui W,
but they're in a different division, they're in different whatever
they have it they have, they actually have a better FCS.
They've got a better outcome in the playoffs. And I
think that, you know, Division one football needs to look
at the FCS and figure that out as well.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So coming up, what I want to get into is
a little bit of Spurs talk.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Right, we got some Spurs talking to do on the
fanatics on ticket seven sixty
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