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Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're gonna talk about the infamous, the lovely, the soon
to be legendary Ace Bailey, who created so.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Much drama in the NBA draft.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Obviously, not to call out Tie, but I'm gonna call
out Tie because Ty said that Ace Bailey should have been.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
A san Antonio Spur.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hmm, I'm glad he didn't call any san Antonio Spur.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
That would have been a good look.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ace Bailey is kind of given his name already, which
I understand. There's a couple moves here, right If I'm
Ace Bailey, nobody really knows who I am because obviously
I played under Dylan Harper. I'm not knocking Ace Bailey.
I'm not saying that he's not a great pick. There
was a chess move that we saw on Wednesday, actually
(00:47):
we saw it before Wednesday, and the first couple headlines was, hey,
he declined to work out with the seventy six ers.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
He declined to work out with a lot. Did he
even work out for anybody?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No, he did not. So the fact of the matter
is he declined all those workouts. He's like, Hey, I'm
Ace Bailey, I'm that guy. I'm sorry you're who But
isn't he a young one too, Yeah, he's nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper were the two were the
only reason people watched Rutgers basketball, and they still finished
below five hundred the season because the offense ran through them.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, And that's the thing is I think, do you
think there's jealousy to say?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Do they pick up the phone and call each other
and say, hey, bro would just go?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'd have to imagine at this point it was pretty
much an obvious fact that Harper was gonna go.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Second, I don't think there was any jealousy there.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think it was just more animosity on Ace Bailey's
part because I think he wanted to, or at least.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
His agent want to play for Philly. They wanted to
control where he landed.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, and apparently his agent isn't he a family member
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't know. I don't know this whole relation Leonard
PTSD stuff. His agent's not really an agent though, apparently
not like a.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Certified not a certified agent, that's what it was. It's
not a certified agent, right, So you're telling me it's
an agent in the professional sports league.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I should start a business he's like, he's more of
a he's more of a rep. Anybody can be a rep.
I don't understand this from kids nowadays.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Okay, so when you are an elite athlete, right when
you are this number one pick, it's called a lottery
for a reason. Yeah, okay, the NFL, Right, cam Ward
was the best pick in the NFL, right, best quarterback
out there? By far, Tennessee was a worst team. Yes,
(02:29):
so Tennessee got cam Ward the best player. Now, does
that mean Tennessee's going to be great?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No? No, they're just going to get better right now.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
In the NBA, it's different, right, you don't have to
be Let's remember your Mavericks made the play.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
In right, yep? Yeah, and they got the number one pick,
and they got the pick. How does that help you talk?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Who literally sucked all season and gets the fifth pick?
Now they get Ace Bailey, which, by the way, boys
and girls, just so you know, he did show up.
He is going to show up for the Utah Jazz
because I think over time you let the forty eight
hours sink in, you realize that you are going to
be something in Utah and you are worth it according
(03:13):
to your stats.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But You've had people like.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Draymond Green, who was on his podcast that later part
of the week and he said, this kid is not
starting off great. So you know that Draymond Green is
going to welcome him to the NBA. Yeah, which I
feel at this point he deserves, he needs to, because
there's people like Cooper Flag who's gonna come in and
people are gonna be like, now, I'm not guaranteeing that
(03:37):
he's gonna be Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Cooper Flag has no room to really act in that
way either, because all eyes are on him.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
All eyes are on him. He's still not showing signs
that he's really happy to be there.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
He at the very least has good people behind behind
his ear telling him what to say, how to do.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It, and he's got a good, strong background. Right. Why
do you feel like he's not excited to be there.
I don't think he's excited to be there. I think
he's holding, and I think he's holding in his expense.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think at the end of the day, he wanted
to be with Wimby well and no, okay, I think
at the end of the day anybody wants.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
To be with Wimby.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think just remember he's seventeen or eighteen. I don't
think he want to be that far from Maine and
we want to be somewhere close to right.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And he could have ended up in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
He could have ended up with Washington of all places,
right because he was Cam Jones of the University or TREYE.
Jones from the University of Trey Johnson who ends up
at Washington. And we had a hardball hard on the
show and he felt bad for him. But I'm like, again,
you're a talented player, Okay, if you're a top ten pick,
(04:35):
does it really bother you where you're going? And bother
Day's Bailey, Like, I want to ask you, Rudy, you're
a top ten pick in the NBA. Right, you have
an agent that says, hey, you could end up in
San Antonio. You could end up in you know you
tah you could end up in Cincinnati wherever, right, Toronto
or whatever. Are you opposed to that because you're getting
(04:58):
good money to go and and it might not.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Be a great city, right?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Can we remind everybody who just won the NBA Championship
and everybody from the Four Letter Network loves to make
fun of this city.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The city with the Baby Riverwalk exactly. I call it.
I call it the stream Stroll. It's called the Brickwalk.
The Brickwalk. Yeah, in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So like Coroma City wins the NBA Championship, Oklahoma City
is going to be on our maps for the next
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
If I'm a player, I want to go to Oklahoma City.
I want to go to the San Antonios. I want
to go to the U Tauls. I don't understand this concept.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I think, don't you feel like maybe he's so young
he doesn't know how to feel.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I don't think he's making the decisions, just like why
Winner wasn't making his decisions when he left San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's like, you're gonna go here, and that's all there
is to it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Shane, you're a top ten pick in the NFL. Okay,
you finally lived your dream. You've you've blocked so many
people that you're a great offensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Correct? Were you offensive tackle or defensive tackle? So I
played in high school.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I played tight end, guard, defensive end, a linebacker, so
I play all around those for.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You, So we'll go with tight end. Sure, you're you're
top ten.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You played at the University of Oklahoma because I don't
want to use the other place.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Oklahoma puts out better tight end and that's it they do.
There you go, there, you go.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I on the air, I'm saying you're a top ten pick,
but all of a sudden, you know that you're going
to You're probably gonna go to what is a terrible
team in.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
The Jets. There. Yeah, you're going to be a Jet. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Are you opposed to that or you're just like, hey,
I'm gonna be a Jet. I got to make the
deal of it. In three years, I'm gonna move stronger
for in a bigger contract, and then maybe that gets
me out of there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I made this point before with winn the NFL. The
NFL is such a quick turnaround league. Look at look
at Washington last year. You can go from being one
of the worst teams in the NFL to one of
the best with proper coaching and proper and proper quarterback.
That if I'm if I am a tight end and
I'm making top ten money, I'm extatic because tight ends
typically don't get taken that high anyway, Okay, and the
money inside the top ten is different the rest of
(07:01):
the draft.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
But what I'm saying is like, would you create all
this drama before you're even playing a snap?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
No, or driven in a basketball because that's a quarterback thing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Eli Manning, Shador Sanders, Baker Mayfield, Caleb Williams, Kyler Murray, those.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Are quarterback things. And look, I just don't do that. Yeah,
And I want to be really quick with Ace Bailey,
you know, as we get into the break here. But
Ace Bailey, you've got to do better. You've got to
come into the league. It's called humble. Okay, if you're
gonna be humbled, you're gonna be humbled real quick with
your first dribble. Okay, you might think that you are
(07:37):
that guy. Let me remind you you fell out of
the top three, but that was your decision. Okay, you
became top five, and you had somebody in there saying
to all top five teams that you would not want
to go play for them. You don't get to pick
and choose to go play with a winner. If you're
a top athlete, be something on your own. Cooper Flag
(07:58):
will be something on his own doing Harper will be
something on his own. Ace Bailey is going to be
a problem in this league and we can mark that
on this tape.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And also the Jazz for being honest, that's not the
worst team to go to. They have a solid foundation
there with guys like Lloyd Markinen and Walker Kessler, Collin Sexton.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
They have some solid pieces. They just do have depth.
But to let Ty know, as he drives away from
the Great.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
State of Ti, likes to disagree just for the sake
of disagreement.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
We love you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Bailey is going to be a cancer in the NBA.
And I'll be the first one to say so. He's
gonna be like dealing as.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Allen who Grace now, byway, is my least favorite player
in the So NBA.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Coming up next, we're gonna get into an NBA trade
and I guess makes sense. It's all next on the
Fanatics on Ticket seven sixty
We're gonna talk about the infamous, the lovely, the soon
to be legendary Ace Bailey, who created so.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Much drama in the NBA draft.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Obviously, not to call out Tie, but I'm gonna call
out Tie because Ty said that Ace Bailey should have been.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
A san Antonio Spur.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hmm, I'm glad he didn't call any san Antonio Spur.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
That would have been a good look.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ace Bailey is kind of given his name already, which
I understand. There's a couple moves here, right If I'm
Ace Bailey, nobody really knows who I am because obviously
I played under Dylan Harper. I'm not knocking Ace Bailey.
I'm not saying that he's not a great pick. There
was a chess move that we saw on Wednesday, actually
(00:47):
we saw it before Wednesday, and the first couple headlines was, hey,
he declined to work out with the seventy six ers.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
He declined to work out with a lot. Did he
even work out for anybody?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No, he did not. So the fact of the matter
is he declined all those workouts. He's like, Hey, I'm
Ace Bailey, I'm that guy. I'm sorry you're who But
isn't he a young one too, Yeah, he's nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper were the two were the
only reason people watched Rutgers basketball, and they still finished
below five hundred the season because the offense ran through them.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, And that's the thing is I think, do you
think there's jealousy to say?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Do they pick up the phone and call each other
and say, hey, bro would just go?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'd have to imagine at this point it was pretty
much an obvious fact that Harper was gonna go.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Second, I don't think there was any jealousy there.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think it was just more animosity on Ace Bailey's
part because I think he wanted to, or at least.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
His agent want to play for Philly. They wanted to
control where he landed.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, and apparently his agent isn't he a family member
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't know. I don't know this whole relation Leonard
PTSD stuff. His agent's not really an agent though, apparently
not like a.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Certified not a certified agent, that's what it was. It's
not a certified agent, right, So you're telling me it's
an agent in the professional sports league.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I should start a business he's like, he's more of
a he's more of a rep. Anybody can be a rep.
I don't understand this from kids nowadays.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Okay, so when you are an elite athlete, right when
you are this number one pick, it's called a lottery
for a reason. Yeah, okay, the NFL, Right, cam Ward
was the best pick in the NFL, right, best quarterback
out there? By far, Tennessee was a worst team. Yes,
(02:29):
so Tennessee got cam Ward the best player. Now, does
that mean Tennessee's going to be great?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No? No, they're just going to get better right now.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
In the NBA, it's different, right, you don't have to
be Let's remember your Mavericks made the play.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
In right, yep? Yeah, and they got the number one pick,
and they got the pick. How does that help you talk?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Who literally sucked all season and gets the fifth pick?
Now they get Ace Bailey, which, by the way, boys
and girls, just so you know, he did show up.
He is going to show up for the Utah Jazz
because I think over time you let the forty eight
hours sink in, you realize that you are going to
be something in Utah and you are worth it according
(03:13):
to your stats.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But You've had people like.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Draymond Green, who was on his podcast that later part
of the week and he said, this kid is not
starting off great. So you know that Draymond Green is
going to welcome him to the NBA. Yeah, which I
feel at this point he deserves, he needs to, because
there's people like Cooper Flag who's gonna come in and
people are gonna be like, now, I'm not guaranteeing that
(03:37):
he's gonna be Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Cooper Flag has no room to really act in that
way either, because all eyes are on him.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
All eyes are on him. He's still not showing signs
that he's really happy to be there.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
He at the very least has good people behind behind
his ear telling him what to say, how to do.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It, and he's got a good, strong background. Right. Why
do you feel like he's not excited to be there.
I don't think he's excited to be there. I think
he's holding, and I think he's holding in his expense.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think at the end of the day, he wanted
to be with Wimby well and no, okay, I think
at the end of the day anybody wants.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
To be with Wimby.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think just remember he's seventeen or eighteen. I don't
think he want to be that far from Maine and
we want to be somewhere close to right.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And he could have ended up in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
He could have ended up with Washington of all places,
right because he was Cam Jones of the University or TREYE.
Jones from the University of Trey Johnson who ends up
at Washington. And we had a hardball hard on the
show and he felt bad for him. But I'm like, again,
you're a talented player, Okay, if you're a top ten pick,
(04:35):
does it really bother you where you're going? And bother
Day's Bailey, Like, I want to ask you, Rudy, you're
a top ten pick in the NBA. Right, you have
an agent that says, hey, you could end up in
San Antonio. You could end up in you know you
tah you could end up in Cincinnati wherever, right, Toronto
or whatever. Are you opposed to that because you're getting
(04:58):
good money to go and and it might not.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Be a great city, right?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Can we remind everybody who just won the NBA Championship
and everybody from the Four Letter Network loves to make
fun of this city.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The city with the Baby Riverwalk exactly. I call it.
I call it the stream Stroll. It's called the Brickwalk.
The Brickwalk. Yeah, in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So like Coroma City wins the NBA Championship, Oklahoma City
is going to be on our maps for the next
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
If I'm a player, I want to go to Oklahoma City.
I want to go to the San Antonios. I want
to go to the U Tauls. I don't understand this concept.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I think, don't you feel like maybe he's so young
he doesn't know how to feel.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I don't think he's making the decisions, just like why
Winner wasn't making his decisions when he left San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's like, you're gonna go here, and that's all there
is to it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Shane, you're a top ten pick in the NFL. Okay,
you finally lived your dream. You've you've blocked so many
people that you're a great offensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Correct? Were you offensive tackle or defensive tackle? So I
played in high school.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I played tight end, guard, defensive end, a linebacker, so
I play all around those for.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You, So we'll go with tight end. Sure, you're you're
top ten.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You played at the University of Oklahoma because I don't
want to use the other place.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Oklahoma puts out better tight end and that's it they do.
There you go, there, you go.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I on the air, I'm saying you're a top ten pick,
but all of a sudden, you know that you're going
to You're probably gonna go to what is a terrible
team in.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
The Jets. There. Yeah, you're going to be a Jet. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Are you opposed to that or you're just like, hey,
I'm gonna be a Jet. I got to make the
deal of it. In three years, I'm gonna move stronger
for in a bigger contract, and then maybe that gets
me out of there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I made this point before with winn the NFL. The
NFL is such a quick turnaround league. Look at look
at Washington last year. You can go from being one
of the worst teams in the NFL to one of
the best with proper coaching and proper and proper quarterback.
That if I'm if I am a tight end and
I'm making top ten money, I'm extatic because tight ends
typically don't get taken that high anyway, Okay, and the
money inside the top ten is different the rest of
(07:01):
the draft.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
But what I'm saying is like, would you create all
this drama before you're even playing a snap?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
No, or driven in a basketball because that's a quarterback thing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Eli Manning, Shador Sanders, Baker Mayfield, Caleb Williams, Kyler Murray, those.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Are quarterback things. And look, I just don't do that. Yeah,
And I want to be really quick with Ace Bailey,
you know, as we get into the break here. But
Ace Bailey, you've got to do better. You've got to
come into the league. It's called humble. Okay, if you're
gonna be humbled, you're gonna be humbled real quick with
your first dribble. Okay, you might think that you are
(07:37):
that guy. Let me remind you you fell out of
the top three, but that was your decision. Okay, you
became top five, and you had somebody in there saying
to all top five teams that you would not want
to go play for them. You don't get to pick
and choose to go play with a winner. If you're
a top athlete, be something on your own. Cooper Flag
(07:58):
will be something on his own doing Harper will be
something on his own. Ace Bailey is going to be
a problem in this league and we can mark that
on this tape.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And also the Jazz for being honest, that's not the
worst team to go to. They have a solid foundation
there with guys like Lloyd Markinen and Walker Kessler, Collin Sexton.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
They have some solid pieces. They just do have depth.
But to let Ty know, as he drives away from
the Great.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
State of Ti, likes to disagree just for the sake
of disagreement.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
We love you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Bailey is going to be a cancer in the NBA.
And I'll be the first one to say so. He's
gonna be like dealing as.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Allen who Grace now, byway, is my least favorite player
in the So NBA.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Coming up next, we're gonna get into an NBA trade
and I guess makes sense. It's all next on the
Fanatics on Ticket seven sixty
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