August 3, 2025 • 6 mins
As the NFL reflects on the shooting that took place at HQ, it should be a warning for things to come.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Actually please click like and subscribe. That's how we keep
going here.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So I want to get into some theme and it's
been heavy on my mind for years with the NFL.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Okay, okay, so we've got a couple.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Of minutes left in the show and this is going
to get to where, you know, you kind of get
to see a different side of me at this point.
So obviously, earlier in this week, we had a tragic
shooting right in the NFL headquarters.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Four people lost their lives.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm not going to say the person that did it,
but I can tell you that he's a former football player, yes.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And I was reading the article this morning, chronic headaches,
back and forth right.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He was complaining, and he was young. He was young,
the young player.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The note that was left behind is that he wanted
his brain to be studied. We still have this issue
in the NFL. We still have this issue with football.
We still have this issue that if you're not good enough,
we ignore you.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Trust me. I've had stories.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I've sat down with people that have played for the
Pittsburgh Steelers and they were asked to get up and
walk and if their ankle was limping, they cut them.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This was back in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We don't care about a player if he doesn't have
a uniform on that represents the National Football League. The
ones that get out, the ones that are starting to
go away, I applaud you. The ones that are doing
early retirement, I applaud you. You're saving your brain because
the NFL will still do nothing about it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Goodell.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It upsets me. You need therapists for each team. You're
telling somebody nine months out of the year, you got
to hit this person.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You gotta do this. You got to keep your job.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And if you're not good enough and you suffer injuries,
what happens, Shane.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
They cut you.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, and it's a business. Interioration really just starts from there.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It does.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And then what do you do in the offseason. You
don't know what to do. You're not getting the help
that you need. And then correct me if I'm wrong,
But I don't feel like there's enough help out there.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Players have to play at least I think at least
three years for them to earn the seventh to where
they can get that lifetime medical insurance.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And that's what they're starting to do, and.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's a lot of it has come from pressure because
over the years, as CTE research has really evolved, it's
become more widely known and therefore widely scrutinized. I mean,
have you ever seen the movie Concussion. Yes, that was
really more of a movie that was more anti business
the way it was presented than anti NFL. But because the.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
NFL had nothing to do with it, they didn't want
anything to do with it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, because to be fair, though, the NFL ain't the
only sport that you can get a concussion in. But
the reality is that there are plenty of leagues, the
NFL obviously being the mainstay, where if you get a
concussion and the league doesn't take care of you, things
can happen. I mean, it happens in box, it happens soccer,
happens at baseball. But unfortunately, this is it's just a
running theme of if you don't take care of these
players and these sort of things honestly can happen and
(03:10):
only get worse, worse.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And worse, and you're gonna have shootings, you're gonna have Hey,
pay attention. We're gonna see this more and more unfortunately,
until something is done. You know, the shooter here was
twenty seven years old. Yep, Jane twenty seven, you know,
and chronic headaches and this and that. Yes, you get
hit in football. Yes, the NFL will tell you, well,
we teach him how to hit, but we're not monitoring
that so much.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
We do more in college football now.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I believe, like the University of Oklahoma, for instance, they
have censors in their helmets, right, and so after every hit,
there's somebody reading something that's going on, Right, there's something
that they can pull players off. And like you even
know this, Shane that some players you're like, man, what
happened to them? And they're like, oh, in the sideline
reports like oh, they're under concussion protocol.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And that's always kind of scary thought is I always
go back to Luke Keigley. He had his famous concussion.
His helmet was off, his face was blank, tears were
coming out of his eyes and became sort of like
the actual not face, but like the visual representation of
what a concussion can look like. Because Luke Keigley at
his apex, right, he was the best defensive player in
(04:12):
the world.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
He was a star.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, and he and everyone who was watching that game
watching him get hit, they saw what it actually looked
like in real time.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Right, and I mean again, this shooter that did this,
he started playing football at the age of six, playing
tackle football. You know, friends knew him in the decade.
He was a five foot seven hundred and forty pounds.
He was actually like one of the top recruits from ESPN,
right they and they.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Kind of lost touch.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
He kind of faded away from the game because he
stepped away from the game. You know, he was trying
to reach They investigators right now are saying that he
was trying to reach.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
The NFL headquarters, but he took the wrong elevator, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
In a note that was found, the sources are telling
that he lived in Nevada. He had been treated for
depression twice, held for involuntary for mental health reasons, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And then that's the thing. He was being ignored. And
I'm not saying that he's an NFL player. I get it.
He's not an NFL player.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And the harsh reality is a lot of change doesn't
really happen until the people who can make change are
face to face with it.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But they're not because they're making money off these people.
What I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Hopefully this is the thing that could turn that over.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I hope so, I really do hope.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So, because at the end of the day, the NFL's
got to do something. Goadell's got to say something. If
somebody's going to present evidence that brains are getting whacked
for his entertainment and then you don't care about a
player after and the retirement and everything else, come on, man,
we're better than that.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
We're better than that. In the society.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
We saw Demor Hamlin pretty much die and come back
to life, and that wouldn't even a head injury. So
it could happen at any point.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And when you work a regular job, you have the
coverage for it for a long time. When these guys
get out of the NFL, they don't have that coverage.
Protect your players, Goodell, protect them, do something about it.
That's it for the Fanatics this week. We'll see you
again next week right here on Ticket seven sixty. Hey everyone,
(06:10):
it's Dylan Emory, host of The Fanatics, every Sunday ten
am to noon on sports Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket.
Thanks for listening to this podcast version of the Fanatics.
We'll see you next week right here on sports radio
AM seven sixty The Ticket
Actually please click like and subscribe. That's how we keep
going here.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So I want to get into some theme and it's
been heavy on my mind for years with the NFL.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Okay, okay, so we've got a couple.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Of minutes left in the show and this is going
to get to where, you know, you kind of get
to see a different side of me at this point.
So obviously, earlier in this week, we had a tragic
shooting right in the NFL headquarters.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Four people lost their lives.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm not going to say the person that did it,
but I can tell you that he's a former football player, yes.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And I was reading the article this morning, chronic headaches,
back and forth right.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He was complaining, and he was young. He was young,
the young player.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The note that was left behind is that he wanted
his brain to be studied. We still have this issue
in the NFL. We still have this issue with football.
We still have this issue that if you're not good enough,
we ignore you.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Trust me. I've had stories.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I've sat down with people that have played for the
Pittsburgh Steelers and they were asked to get up and
walk and if their ankle was limping, they cut them.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This was back in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We don't care about a player if he doesn't have
a uniform on that represents the National Football League. The
ones that get out, the ones that are starting to
go away, I applaud you. The ones that are doing
early retirement, I applaud you. You're saving your brain because
the NFL will still do nothing about it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Goodell.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It upsets me. You need therapists for each team. You're
telling somebody nine months out of the year, you got
to hit this person.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You gotta do this. You got to keep your job.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And if you're not good enough and you suffer injuries,
what happens, Shane.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
They cut you.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, and it's a business. Interioration really just starts from there.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It does.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And then what do you do in the offseason. You
don't know what to do. You're not getting the help
that you need. And then correct me if I'm wrong,
But I don't feel like there's enough help out there.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Players have to play at least I think at least
three years for them to earn the seventh to where
they can get that lifetime medical insurance.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And that's what they're starting to do, and.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's a lot of it has come from pressure because
over the years, as CTE research has really evolved, it's
become more widely known and therefore widely scrutinized. I mean,
have you ever seen the movie Concussion. Yes, that was
really more of a movie that was more anti business
the way it was presented than anti NFL. But because the.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
NFL had nothing to do with it, they didn't want
anything to do with it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, because to be fair, though, the NFL ain't the
only sport that you can get a concussion in. But
the reality is that there are plenty of leagues, the
NFL obviously being the mainstay, where if you get a
concussion and the league doesn't take care of you, things
can happen. I mean, it happens in box, it happens soccer,
happens at baseball. But unfortunately, this is it's just a
running theme of if you don't take care of these
players and these sort of things honestly can happen and
(03:10):
only get worse, worse.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And worse, and you're gonna have shootings, you're gonna have Hey,
pay attention. We're gonna see this more and more unfortunately,
until something is done. You know, the shooter here was
twenty seven years old. Yep, Jane twenty seven, you know,
and chronic headaches and this and that. Yes, you get
hit in football. Yes, the NFL will tell you, well,
we teach him how to hit, but we're not monitoring
that so much.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
We do more in college football now.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I believe, like the University of Oklahoma, for instance, they
have censors in their helmets, right, and so after every hit,
there's somebody reading something that's going on, Right, there's something
that they can pull players off. And like you even
know this, Shane that some players you're like, man, what
happened to them? And they're like, oh, in the sideline
reports like oh, they're under concussion protocol.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And that's always kind of scary thought is I always
go back to Luke Keigley. He had his famous concussion.
His helmet was off, his face was blank, tears were
coming out of his eyes and became sort of like
the actual not face, but like the visual representation of
what a concussion can look like. Because Luke Keigley at
his apex, right, he was the best defensive player in
(04:12):
the world.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
He was a star.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, and he and everyone who was watching that game
watching him get hit, they saw what it actually looked
like in real time.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Right, and I mean again, this shooter that did this,
he started playing football at the age of six, playing
tackle football. You know, friends knew him in the decade.
He was a five foot seven hundred and forty pounds.
He was actually like one of the top recruits from ESPN,
right they and they.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Kind of lost touch.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
He kind of faded away from the game because he
stepped away from the game. You know, he was trying
to reach They investigators right now are saying that he
was trying to reach.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
The NFL headquarters, but he took the wrong elevator, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
In a note that was found, the sources are telling
that he lived in Nevada. He had been treated for
depression twice, held for involuntary for mental health reasons, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And then that's the thing. He was being ignored. And
I'm not saying that he's an NFL player. I get it.
He's not an NFL player.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And the harsh reality is a lot of change doesn't
really happen until the people who can make change are
face to face with it.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But they're not because they're making money off these people.
What I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Hopefully this is the thing that could turn that over.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I hope so, I really do hope.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So, because at the end of the day, the NFL's
got to do something. Goadell's got to say something. If
somebody's going to present evidence that brains are getting whacked
for his entertainment and then you don't care about a
player after and the retirement and everything else, come on, man,
we're better than that.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
We're better than that. In the society.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
We saw Demor Hamlin pretty much die and come back
to life, and that wouldn't even a head injury. So
it could happen at any point.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And when you work a regular job, you have the
coverage for it for a long time. When these guys
get out of the NFL, they don't have that coverage.
Protect your players, Goodell, protect them, do something about it.
That's it for the Fanatics this week. We'll see you
again next week right here on Ticket seven sixty. Hey everyone,
(06:10):
it's Dylan Emory, host of The Fanatics, every Sunday ten
am to noon on sports Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket.
Thanks for listening to this podcast version of the Fanatics.
We'll see you next week right here on sports radio
AM seven sixty The Ticket
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