188. Thumbs Up Catchup

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Weary wave media.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Recruiting in progress. Hi Zoom, Welcome to the feminine critique.
I'm Emily, I'm Christine. Sorry, We're just we're starting, and
I'm already mad at Zoom zero things and weird places.
They prioritize AI companion over the record button because I
guess more people use that than record.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I don't know, people might not realize. How do you
not realize? By this point? Welcome that where Skype gurly
is over here. Yes, I don't know. I don't know
if we'll ever be the same since I've lost it.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't have tattoos. It's just I can never commit
to something and I feel like i'd end up my
body would gain weight in a weird way where it
would just look very strange. But I'm think maybe I
need to get the Skype icon on me, just so
that everybody knows, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, I'm not one for like advertising brands, but like
maybe once they don't exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's okay, Yeah, Skyper die baby, Skyper dye. Yeah, this
episode is brought to you by Zoom, not Skype, because
it died. Yeah. Anyway, we're here just to do a
little catch up and stuff. That we actually want to
talk about as opposed to just a whole giant list
of stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I can't speak for you, but I decided to do
a thing where I was going to watch one hundred
horror movies between August, September and October.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I definitely didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
So I made a choice, and it's a weird one.
And I have a lot of things that I've watched
and not all of them or most of them are
worth talking about. So there's no point in punishing both
of us one dred unless there's anything you need to
warn us about.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Maybe you can like run through a list of things
that you just want to steer us away from. If
there was anything that was like super Bad or super
if anything you regretted watching.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
If I come across anything, I'll let you know. But
it's been it hasn't been that bad.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Thingsful, that's good, good, gree good. I won't say this
is the theme of mine because it only covers about
a couple of things on my list, but one of
the things I have done more lately weird crazy, hold,
sit down, sit down, everybody. Oh, I've gone to the
theater a few times.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh, that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, and like some time because it was
oh there was like a director, Q and A, or
there was a special screening, and sometimes it was like, no,
it's a new movie in the theaters and we'll go
see it. And I just what can I say? Who
am I anymore? So that happens when the sky goes away?
You just can't predict it.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, theater, Gurley, I have seen and this is exciting.
I don't know if you have any Regals near you,
Regal Cinema.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Honestly, I don't know if I do. I think there
is a lot in Long Island. I don't know if
there are many up in Westchester. I can't think of any.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, I know some of the chains are doing some
special October stuff, but Regal specifically is doing a different
classic horror movie every night in October. Oh he like
Scream and like, uh now I've completely blanked on the
other thirty movies, but I are you no, but like

(03:50):
New Nightmare and a night Prime Nightmare on Elm Street.
It's just a lot of like like, I don't think
I saw Scream on in the theater, or so it
would I am entertaining. Maybe going to a handful of them,
and I think they have like reduced pricing too. I'm
not a regal shill, but like if you're if anybody
else is feeling in the theater mood, I think checking

(04:13):
out something uh classic would be.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Fun that I'll why don't I start with one of
the things that I did then, because that is one
of the things I did. It was not horror. But
so I have this really great movie theater near me
that I've talked about a few times. It's the Jacob
Burns Film Center, and it's a nonprofit movie theater. It
is a lot of art house stuff, but they also

(04:37):
like they'll show new movies, but they'll also show like
just a lot of international movies and just stuff that
it's very hard to find elsewhere. And they do some
special screenings and I have two on here that I
went to. But the first one I saw that were
not actually it wasn't. It was like two weeks ago,
week ago, I don't know what time is anymore, but
it was a they were doing a Robert Altman month,

(05:00):
and this was a like I don't think of myself
as a big Altman fan because I really have not
seen that many of his movies, but it was a like, oh, wait,
they're showing Popeye, which my husband is a giant fan of.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh Popeye?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Did you grow up watching it?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Uh? Yes, but like, against my will for lack of
a better framing, it was not a I didn't like
Popeye yep, like the cartoon, it was just not appealing
to me as like a tiny person. Sure, and then
like then there's this movie that is like a less

(05:39):
fun version of the thing I don't like. But like
as an adult, I've watched it and it is it
is strange, and the commitment to it is really really like,
I don't know, uh, endearing, I guess, yes, so like
I have, I do see it. I get it. But
like when I was a kid and it was around,
they also used to make me watch them the Muppet
frog prints, and that bored me to tears too, So

(06:02):
it's just like, look, no accounting for taste when you're
a youth.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Oh but bait. The Muppet frog Princes are the Robin
Williams fairy Tale theater frog.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
No, the Muppet Frog the Muppet frog Prince. Yeah right
with sweet Ems he's in that one.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I believe you.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
We should cover it for the show.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh definitely, because funny enough fairy Tale Theater, which is
Shelley Duvall, yes, also a Popeye. She has a one
of the episodes is The Frog Prince, and the Frog
Prince is played by Robin Williams, who was also Popeye.
So that's what I thought you were mixing the two up.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Look it, I accidentally connected something that I didn't know
I was connected.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Fascinating. So I saw Popeye as a kid, didn't think
much of it. Rewatched it with Brandon maybe ten years
ago or so, and like, don't really remember watching it,
but I wanted him to go see it, and I
wanted to see it with him because they were also
doing a Q and a after with one of the
actors in it who was also kind of a sort
of a producer on it. So it's Alan Nichols, who

(07:02):
did a lot of Robert Altman stuff and worked with
him in a lot of movies. And so we went
to see Popeye in the big screen. Not a huge audience,
but like a full enough audience that you could hear reactions,
and there were kids there too, which was great. And
I gotta tell you, I fucking love Popeye. I didn't
know I loved Popeye, but seeing it like sitting down
in a theater and when that movie opens, like this

(07:24):
is one of those like you know what, you talk
about about it a lot with like Shakespeare movies where
it's like the first five minutes you're sort of like
tuning your ear to it to make sure because you
don't understand it at first. And I mean this is
a movie where like, yeah, you can't understand what Robin
Williams is saying until at a certain point you can.
And it opens, it's a human cartoon, it's everybody is screaming,

(07:44):
it's a lot of slapstick, which are all things that
I am not normally a fan of. But it like
five minutes in and you realize like, oh no, I
get what's going on. And now I'm looking at every
frame of this movie and seeing something. And I have
never laughed as hard watching it, Like I was cackling
because there were just beasial jokes that I had never

(08:05):
like gotten before and never really realized before. And it
was just an absolute delight. And afterwards, like there was
a Q and A like it was a really like again,
anybody in the New York area, like check out the
Jacoburns Film Center because it's such a great place and
they do cool things. And with this like instead of
like a big Q and a in a kind of
like half empty theater, it was like, Okay, we're going

(08:26):
upstairs to the little like wine bar area. Everybody sit
around a table with this guy and talk to him.
And he was so neat because he was He's got
great stories. He's really funny. He had some great Altman stories,
and it just it also kind of launched the week
before I'll kind of do this one along with that,
because we knew we were going to see him in person.

(08:46):
And the first thing that's like on his resume I
was working with Altman was Nashville, which I had never seen.
Brandon had never seen. Had you have you seen Nashville?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh that's not really a Christine.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
You say that. I think you should watch it. I
think you should watch it. It's on Criterion. So Criterion
Channel is conveniently doing a Robert Altman month as well.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Wow, is there something is there? Like an anniversary or
a birthday?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think it might be the one hundred. It might
be I think it's Altman at one hundred, So I
think it is would have been his hundredth birthday.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, And I mean Altman, I think he made it
to like ninety or so, and he even like he
had a heart transplant in the mid nineties. Like and again,
like there's so many Altman films that I haven't watched
or haven't like watched asn't with adult eyes. But Nashville,
I think you would be surprised by what you get
out of it. Karen Black is in it, love it.

(09:43):
Really everybody is in it. I mean all like the
usual Altman people are, but you also have Keith Cartin,
Lily Tomlin. It is an embarrassingly good cast. It is
great music, even like if you're like, I'm not really
a country person. Like it's also like some the music
isn't great, and that's kind of the point. It's and

(10:03):
it's just such a like you know, the way Altman
did so many other movies of Slice of Life, of
this you know, here's this person into that person, into
that person. But it's I don't know, I think it's riveting.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
And it's long. It is it's like two forty so
it is a long watch. But after like I don't know,
twenty minutes, like you're not going anywhere, you are fully
into it. So both of those I recommend revisiting if
you haven't in a while.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
All right, I mean you sold me. I mean good
movies are good, right.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, And I mean Nashville was one that's always on
a list of you know, like movies one hundred best
movies or movies you need to see. And I just same,
like I thought, I'm like, I don't know, this doesn't
really sound like my thing. I don't need like a
three hour movie that's just like different people moving from
one place to another. But it's it's great, and it

(10:54):
the other this there's some weird timely miss stuff. The
one thing I would say is that there's some political
not political, it's not even political, but there's just some
stuff that is maybe makes this both a more timely
watch but also maybe one you wouldn't want to watch
if certain things are going on. But it's not direct

(11:16):
to that, but also feels like it's speaking to it.
So I don't know. All this is to say is
Nashville is a great movie.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah. I mean the cast is bananas. You're looking at it, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Ronnie Blakely Baby Baby.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Nominated for an Oscar for it, and she's she's amazing.
She apparently started as a country singer, like that was
more what she was doing than acting. And she has
a gorgeous voice. Oh and the music, like most of
the music is written by the people performing it. So
those are Ronnie Blakely songs that she's singing. Karen Black
sings a song Karen Black was a songwriter. Who knew.
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
That's interesting, Yeah, I mean it seems interesting. We're doing
this thing because I am packing the three months with
horror movies, where November is just gonna be like a
flush of every movie that's not a horror movie, though,
I said, oh, we should watch watch it. So like
I have a list going of all the stuff. So
who knows strange, strange things can happen after October.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I like it all right, So give me one of yours?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Which shall I go?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Please?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
So what is it Rocky and Bullwinkle that say now
for something completely different? Or I don't this is this
is such a tone change everyone. So one of maybe
the best movies I've seen this year.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
On shut up, Okay, it's a.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Movie called chad Gets the Axe.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Can't Sleep. I don't know it, so.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
It's an influencer horror movie. It was so good and
so funny and so fun that I loved it so
much and I'm looking forward to rewatching it. It will
probably not hit for everybody, obviously, I reckonognize that, but like,
we watch a lot of uh where we don't watch
streamers necessarily, like in our home, but we watch YouTube

(13:08):
personalities and YouTube essayists. And also like it's kind of
impossible to avoid just the way people interact with social
media these days, like via TikTok and stuff. So like,
these types of movies really fucking get me when they
get it right, like the right personalities, the right tone.
It's it is almost like more than satire or parody.

(13:31):
It's like a snapshot of modern life in a way
that like standard films aren't doing anyways. This one does
it in a really fun way. It reminded me a
lot of dead Stream, but like okay, but not like
it plays in the same sandbox, but it's not like
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
So is it would you call it horror comedy?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yes? Absolutely? The whole time. There's like a chat running
through the live stream. Okay, the chat is hilarious if
you read it. I don't know, so like I said,
if you are not if this is not for you,
this is not for you, and I totally get it.
It's just like my relationship with media. I think right now,

(14:09):
these types of movies feel more reflective of like what
I want to see. Then I've been on a big
found footage kick and it's just they're more compelling to
me than like these kind of whatever big budget movies
are coming out.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, I can understand that. I think I am because
I am not somebody that watch it or like I say,
I don't watch influencers, but I probably do without realizing
I do. I mean I generally watch just like dog
and Tat videos, but I'm sure within that I'm probably
like subconsciously buying at food because of it. But I

(14:46):
think there is it's and I think sound footage is similar,
where it is a particular type of person of personality
that is really it's hard to nail because it's hard
to do. It's hard to do right and convey it
or to make it fun to watch and not annoying.

(15:07):
Like for me, there's like a line between when it's like, oh,
I hate this person. I don't want to watch them,
but good movies don't, like they get around that, even
if the person like I mean and uh, the one
you just said, the yes, that one where it's like,
oh no, this guy's awful. But I am riveted because
I I kind of want him to get a come up,
and but also I'm he's funny and how awful he is.

(15:29):
So there's an art to it. And did you know
there's a sequel to Influencer coming out soon?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yes, I'm so. I just recently, like wild Hair, rewatched
the first one, yeah, because like I couldn't one hundred
percent remember how it ended, and I was I was like,
how could you love a movie so much and not
remember how it ended? So I popped it back on
and then like halfway through, I was like, what is
she doing? I love this girl? She's so good.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's great.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
And then I click in and I was like, wait,
there's a new one. It was a very pleasant surprise.
I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Same, I'm excited. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, So like when it works, it works, And like
to your point about like dead Stream, the dude and
dead Stream kind of being like purposefully over the top discikeable,
like how a lot of like YouTube personalities or TikTok
personalities can be chad gets the acts of similar like
the dude kind of sucks and that's kind of the point,
and it kind of plays with like the chat wants

(16:22):
them to die sometimes and you're like, well, this is
kind of inhumane, and.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Guess it's it's just it's interesting, smart sounds smart about it.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
If you're very online like I am, you might enjoy
it more. But there are.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Times when I watch to these movies where like I
don't get, like I'm not gonna lie, I don't get things.
I don't get acronyms like there are just because I
like there are certain aspects of influencing and just like
quote unquote being online that like I just because I'm
kind of dissonant from it and trying to get more
distant from it, Like I just sometimes really don't get something,

(16:57):
but it can still be entertaining.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Totally understand. So yeah, that's my first recommendment. It's on shudder.
If anybody's curious.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay, I'm definitely gonna check it out. I'll do Okay,
So I kind of made myself a goal yesterday at
home randomly where I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna because I've
been slow to accept that it's autumn, which is weird
because I mean, we're all like Halloween people, but just
because I've been enjoying summer so much. It's my first

(17:25):
year in the house. I've been grilling all the time,
and now it's like, I go to grill and I
realize it's completely dark outside and it's hard to do that.
So I've been holding off on it. But then finally
yesterday I'm like, okay, fine, I'll drink the pumpkin spice.
I will accept it, and with that randomly decided, you
know what, it's weird that me Emily and Travia who

(17:46):
there's certain things that like you associate with me maybe,
or like things that like I kind of feel like
I'm an expert on. And one of those is obviously horror,
but specifically like killer doll horror, but also killer children horror, right,
like I love an evil kid.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I liked this Blue Sky post already. I know what's happening,
you know what's going on. I'm just so fucking excited,
and it.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Really it dawned on me yesterday that there are several
Children of the Corn movies that I have not seen
and that just seems really inacceptable, unacceptable at this point
in life, that it's just no, no, no, I should know
which one Aba Mendez was in. I should be able
to call upon which one was clearly not a Children
of the Coorn movie. And they rewrote a script for

(18:28):
it quickly, like Helarray's like, I should know these things.
So decided yesterday I'm like, no, no, Like I need to
go through and watch the ones I've missed, and then
I'll go back and watch all the ones that I
haven't seen in the while. So yesterday I ended up
watching two of them. Uh So I went with I
have a four pack DVD that has Children of the
Corn three, four, five, and six on there, and three
I have seen more than once because three is like

(18:50):
the kind of the best sequel. Maybe it's the one
with where it's in the city Urban Harvest.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
And I don't think I've seen any of them.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I mean, I think we could do one of those
things where we do all of them. We a song.
We could do it.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Honestly, Zach would probably love it.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
All right, we should think about.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
This okay, okay, so uh.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
And four is the one with new so oh fun fact,
are least their own is in three? Not a big
part but uh huh fun fact. Funner fact. The lead
of Part four is Naomi Watts.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's exciting.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Uh huh. And I remember watching that one probably at
this point, like twenty five years ago and being bored
by it. So I'm like, I'm not gonna start with
that one. Let me start with one that I've never seen,
which was five. Five is Fields of Terror, and then
six is Isaac's Return. So part five has Alexis Arquette,
Fred Williamson and Ava Mendez in her first film role. Uh,

(19:50):
here's the thing about both of these movies, and six
has uh, well, Isaac, So if John Franklin comes back,
and he also was a co writer on they're not
either one or what you'd call good movies. But watching that,
I think they were ninety seven and ninety eight or
ninety six and ninety eight. So these movies are old now, right,

(20:11):
These are almost thirty years old, And the thing is like,
they're not boring, they they're not good. I'm being very
clear about this. Neither one of these was what I
would call good movies. I think Part six has some
really interesting directorial choices. Okay, and I'm watching this, I'm like,
you know, like the director has an eye here, Like
there's some interesting angles, there's some this is a bad script,

(20:33):
but like there's some cool things going on here. And
and I looked her up an interesting director, female director
who did who's since done a lot of TV work
and has been like very vocal about like women directing.
So that was that was something I got out of
that one.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
That's exciting.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, oh uh nan, oh that's right. Part five has
Nancy Allen and Sacy Keach, so there are some good
faces to look for and part that's part six. Part
five is very dumb. The probably the biggest problem with
is that the kids aren't like you need a scary kid.
That is why the first movie is a flawed film.

(21:11):
But it is scary. I will go to my grave
with this. There are very scary things in part one.
And one of the reasons that film works in spite
of it not being a good movie is that your
two lead like children are terrifying. Isaac and Malachi are creepy,
and they set a tone. And that's something that I

(21:32):
think you lack. In almost every other one of these
movies I have seen, the kids are just never scary enough,
and that's very much the case in Part five and six,
like you don't really have kids, which is a different problem.
But I don't know, Like, so this is a journey.
We'll see where it goes. I am recommending them as
a like, look, if you haven't seen these, they're very nineties.

(21:54):
They're very direct to video nineties, so they are gory.
They're doing some interesting visual things. There's some wild prosthetics
in part five stunt coordinator Caine Hotter. So like the
actual like action does look pretty good. So I don't know,
it's just kind of exciting.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, I love it. I think it's a great project.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well I have something.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
M h.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
It's a soft recommend, but I want I thought it
was and it was interesting because I kind of found
it organically. So it's on to me. And it's a
movie called bed Rest it is. It stars Melissa Barrera.
I've never said her name out loud. Is that her
last name?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I assume that's how you say it. I've never been
truer either.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
So I love her. I think she's talented, gorgeous, and
she's a badass human. So I was like, I'm gonna
watch this, and then as it kind of oh, it's
about a lady who's pregnant, hence the dead rest, and
I was like, you know what, I'm not gonna watch
this unless it has a female creative tied to it,
because I don't want to hear I don't want to
see it, dude, do a woman on bed rest? So

(23:00):
I look and I'm like, oh, okay, Laurie Evans Taylor,
why does your name sound so familiar? Laurie Evans Taylor
writer director of this movie. She wrote Final Destination Bloodlines, Yes,
which like you know.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Me, You and you talked about how that clearly had
like a very sympathetic I in that writer's room.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, So it pushed me to watch it because I
was like, oh shit, like okay, like this this woman
is very good. Uh. This movie is very explicit and
not like explicit like sexually or violent or anything. I
just mean like the plot of it, it's very on
the nose. Is if you're afraid it's gonna be a

(23:43):
is this woman being gas lit?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Kind?

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Is she crazy? Or is the house haunted? Movie you're
gonna get answers, and I think to a degree, maybe
that doesn't work in talking okay, but like I think
it's super ambitious and weird and like it's a lady
in a in an old, creepy house, and in that regard,
like it gave me like amulent vibes. Okay, okay, which

(24:07):
I like. I don't know, there's a lot to like here.
I wouldn't say it was a total home run, but since.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's on TV easy enough to access and give a go.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
To, yeah, I think it's worth it because, like I said,
I think this Laurie Evan Staler lady is pretty to
watch it. Yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's exciting in its own way. Yeah. Right, on the
subject of female creators, I've got one Ooh again, a
movie that by all accounts Emily and Trevia musical fans
should have seen, but I had not. And I do
this really annoying thing to my husband where I will
So we're we have CABE right, We're paying for cable,

(24:45):
so therefore I like try to get everything I can
out of my cable subscription. One of the things that's
greater about that is we get TCMH, which has a fan.
I mean, it's great because I can catch up on
things that like I've always had on my list that
I've never seen. And also they have a lot of
cult stuff that airrs like late Fridays and everything. So
what I'll do is just go to like the TV
guide grid and go to that channel and just like

(25:05):
hit forward to see everything coming on in the next
like week before it blanks out. And it's very annoying
to look at, but it's a great way of seeing, Like, Okay,
what's a you hearing? Win? And I realize, you know what,
this is my chance. I'm gonna record it. I have
never seen yental Oh cool? And now Christine and I
can tell you I have seen Yentl.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Are you a changed person?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I fucking loved Yentl.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well great.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
This goes back to my very uh smart observation of
good movies are good like back when like move back when.
I don't mean just I'm not even gonna finish this
statement anyways, when a movie was was highly lauded and
celebrated at one point in time, it was usually because
it was actually fucking good, I guess, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
And you would have these something that I think, you know,
we I probably constantly talk about of missing. It's like
you have a movie that would come out that everybody
would see, that adults could see and kids could see,
and like you know that if you went to a
dinner party, everybody in that room had seen Apollo thirteen
or something like that. Were these like kind of big

(26:11):
and it's not like, oh, populist movies like no, but
there's an appeal of a movie that is made to
kind of please everybody and it's made well, that's important.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
That is something that we've lost. I mean, that's kind
of it's kind of like a Seinfeld joke, like the
English patient thing in Seinfeld, Like everybody's like you have
to see we don't unless it's Marvel movies. And even
then that's yeah, kind of waning or wasn't around that long.
It's we don't really have like cultural moments that are

(26:42):
all shared because we're so split off meeting.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I mean, it's why Barbenheimer was such a special thing,
because it was did get people of every gender and
every side to say, like, yeah, I'm going to go
to the movies to see these things that everybody is
talking about and it's just rare to get that. And
I mean Yentel wasn't quite that, but Yandell it was
a huge hit. It was you know, it was considered

(27:07):
like one of the biggest films of it was an
eighty six or eighty four. And it's just great. I mean, like, look,
Barbara Streisan can fucking sing like it as she really can.
But she's great in it. She's so funny, she's so
like she is rivening on camera. Mane. Even Tinkin is
so fucking sexy in this movie. And it's this like

(27:27):
really great, like rich story of a woman who in
a man's world, who lives as a man in order
to like get what she needs to get. And it's
also it's like romantic in a different way. It has
a really satisfying ending. And I just was so like,
I'm so glad I watched yentle So again much like Nashville, Like,

(27:50):
Yandel's a great movie. Check it out.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, I mean it's not surprising. Again. I feel like
it's like what one of those things where I always
tell the story pink Flamingo, pink flamingos is the framing,
but like, yeah, I do this thing where I'm like, yeah,
I've read about it. Yeah, I know about it. I
know all the reference I've seen the Simpsons. I get it,
and then you watch it and you're like, oh, cras,
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Actually about this.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, so I know it would totally be something like that.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, that's exciting when that happens.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's always exciting when that happens. I love it. Mm
hm oh okay, is it my turn?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
So this is on tub as well. Twob's are very good.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Is great? I love toob.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
So this is directed by Briggiero Diadado. We all kind
of know Diadado, or at least we used to talk
about him sometimes. So this is an Italian film, but
it's also a slasher called body Count.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Does it have like eight different titles?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Uh? I see it on the poster I'm looking at
as body Count, Camping dell Terore. I it's probably the
Italian title.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
See nineteen eighty six. I'm just cur yeah, Camping of
Terror it's the other translated. Just because a lot of
his movies, I feel like, have a lot of different
where it's like, oh no, I haven't seen that movie. Wait,
you're describing a movie I've seen. Oh yeah, I hit
a different name, so that's why I was curious.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, so this is this is on two b. I
didn't really know what to expect. The reason I watched
it is because Bruce Penhall was in it, and he's
an Andy Sedaris guy. And the thing with Bruce is
that like he was like a race car driver.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think, Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
He always drives the motorcycles, like the little dirt bikes
and motors, so he's like a vehicle guy. So I
was like, what, why is Bruce in this movie? What
is he gonna do? Well, he rides a dirt bike
the whole time. But it's also in set in Colorado,
and there's these like grand sweeping views of like the
Colorado wilderness. And also then it's like a really weird

(29:52):
Italian slasher. It's a slasher, but also it's like not
it's very strange, and since it's on TUBB, I think
it's really worth looking up. David Hess is in it,
but like barely it like barely, it barely matters.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Good good, yeah, good, good to note.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
But I enjoyed it quite a bit because you know,
you're always looking for a slasher or like you're.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Trying to find especially ones from that era that you've missed,
and yeah, every time you think like, no, I'm a
complete like I've seen everything, you're like, oh my god, noah.
There are hundreds of movies from this era in this
very precise subgenre that we did not see and they're
all on two B which is great.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, it's it's it was a lot of fun, I
think too, which is something Sometimes you'll get one and
it's not fun, and it's like, this is still kind
of supposed to be fun.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
And even with Diodado sometimes he can go a little
mean nice if it sounds like it's not this is
gonna be a good time.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
It's weird too, Like it's so like, yeah, if you
watch it, if anybody watches it, let me know, because
I enjoyed it nice.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
All right, I'll go to know. I'm gonna do a
double pairing of without really meaning to. I ended up
watching two Alligator movies fairly close together. I watched one
and then I was like, oh, Alligator's on shutter and
I've never actually seen an alligator, so I should watch Alligator.
But I watched Alligator after I watched Lake Placid for
the first time.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I recently rewatched Lake Placid, and it felt like I
was watching it for the first time.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Okay, let's talk about Lake Placid.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Let's do it, because I forgot or rewrote in my
head so much of that movie.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
What what's going on in that movie? Like it's written
by davidy Kelly. Yeah, Like and that's the one of
the other things I've been like, so I started doing
kind of as my like time killing while I'm doing
other stuff. Is Ali McBeal is on Hulu and I
was like, oh, like, I haven't watched this and since college, Like,
let me see how this holds up. And it's wild
because some of it You're like, well this is you know,

(31:53):
I see what it's trying to do. And then like
I got I just got to an episode at season
one and I'm like four episodes in. I'm like, oh, great,
we're already hating fat people. Okay, maybe I need to
walk away from this show. But like, that's the thing
about davidy Kelly was he I don't know, he was
a very much a TV writer. He did a lot

(32:14):
of things that were I think both like progressive and experimental,
but also like really aged as soon as he did
them and weren't probably quite as progressive as he thought
they were. And I kind of watching Lake Placid, I'm like, what,
Who's Who's trying to do what here? This is one
of the weirdest scripts I have ever seen for a

(32:34):
movie like this.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
The relationship center at in the movie is is very confusing.
Everyone's tone around the relations but he's in a different movie. Yeah,
and it's like, uh, it's the I don't have no
Bill Pullman and what's ther Fonda there? It is, thank you.
I couldn't think of her name, but they're The tone
of their relationship was like strange, and I guess she

(32:57):
was supposed to be like a big city like ass,
whole working woman, but she was just kind of like
mean and cold and Bill woman wasn't even doing anything wrong.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Now, Yeah, it was very because I think that's like
what David Kelly was known for, was like writing these
sort of complicated women who you know, were maybe like oh,
when you first met them, you you they were too much,
but then there were so much behind them. But it's like, no,
this woman is just kind of a cunt. Yeah, and
it's just and she and she's awful. Like it's also

(33:28):
like the movie is awful about her too, Like the
movie is like it introduces her and she's, you know,
this whatever scientist somebody somebody, and immediately the first thing
that happens is a babyface Mariska hard Carta Day oh
yeah is there and she's like, hey, by the way,
I'm sleeping with your boyfriend who's also your boss. And
like then it's like that's how the movie starts. And

(33:49):
then Oliver Platt shows.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Up as by god, what is he?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
He's like trying to be doctor Ian Malcolm but but.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
More more also I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
And the alligator looked pretty good it did it? I
think like the Betty White stuff, I feel like was
very funny in nineteen ninety nine, but in twenty twenty five,
when like we saw Betty White do that, then for
the next twenty years doesn't land quite as effectively. But
it's strange.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
It is very strange. Yeah, And it was stranger than
I remember it because I kind of remember it just
as being like a throwaway kind of like thing that
some people have nostalgia for that I never really did.
And then I was like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Was? It always like this right. Yeah, it's very odd
and it actually makes a great pairing with Alligator. Ooh,
I've never seen it, Like, oh Christine, oh, I feel
like Alligator is made for you. So okay, Alligator is
it's nineteen eighty I think so. It's a John Sales script.

(34:57):
And so it's very like this movie on one hand,
like it seems like it's dumb, but you can tell like,
oh no, there are some jokes and references that like
you can tell no, this is written by written by
somebody who is smart and educated and and like winking
the entire time. And it's the director who did Kat's
Eye and Kujo and I love Kat's Eye, so I

(35:19):
will always be happy with that. Uh. You also have
a relationship between a like science lady and a and
in this case of cop, oh my god, it was
like passage jeez, but like that relationship is sexy and
maybe it's just me, but it's Robert Forster and apparently
like this is the movie that eventually made Quentin Tarantino

(35:39):
say I want him and Jackie Brown and you can
kind of see it because he's like just a very
odd leading man in this because he's just like he
is not your typical like handsome guy. He's like shirtless
so much any times in this movie where it just
feels like they keep finding reasons for him to take
his shirt off. I love that and like not a

(35:59):
sexy it's just like he's stills something on him, or
he's in the hospital getting dressed. Like every time you're
like did what's was it a bet? Like did he? Like?
Was it like if the director out drank him then
the next day you'd have to take a shirt off
for a scene. I don't know, but it's fun. Henry
Silva's in it, Like a lot of random people show
up that you're like, oh look it's oh look it's

(36:22):
and there's some gruesome stuff. There's a great child death
that is very handled, very well. So I had a
blast with Alligator just and like by the end when
the out when basically like things are just blowing up,
is when I was fully I'm like, oh no, this
movie knows exactly what it's doing and it's awesome. So
I think you should watch Alligator. It's on shoe Okay.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I do like alligators, Like I think they're cute.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Oh yeah, and they're fun fun monsters in movies. Too,
because I feel like it'd be a very painful death.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Oh yeah, that's true. I was just more thinking of
like a as a oh got a little bit to
look at.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
But you're right too, well well, and Alligators isn't a
spoiler because it's the opening of the movie. Like the
reason we have a giant alligator is that like a
girl has an alligator as a pet and her dad
flushes it down the toilet and it turns in and
it's in the sewer. So it's like that urban legend
and it's like alligators in this movie too.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
So oh so good. I love it.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, what you got?

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Okay? So, hey, did you see the New? I know
what you did last summer?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I did not, but you clearly did.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
I did. I did, and I don't know. It's not bad.
It's not bad. It was it was fun. I enjoyed
a lot of it in there was like one of
the New because it's a blend of like the you know,

(37:47):
obviously there are people like the people that are still
alive are back like Julie and uh what Ray?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Because so is it a sequel to part two?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yes, Park three doesn't exist because in part three he's
a ghost. We're not going to get at that. Yeah.
So the two human beings whose names I can't remember,
but our characters are.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Named Julie Oh, Freddy Frinz Junior.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
And there it is, and Jennifer Hut. So they're in it,
which is fine, and I'm not going to spoil anything.
But there's so there's obviously like a smattering of new people,
which is as they as we do in these things,
and some of them are fun and compelling. Uh. And
there's a really cool thing that happens that I got

(38:33):
spoiled on, but I won't spoil anybody else. And there
was a really fun character that died really early, but
that's not a spoiler. I don't know. It's just like
there were elements of things that I really wanted to like,
but then those were the things that seemed the most fleeting.
I guess every time there was a cool character or
a fun joke or a cool thing we were doing,
it like stopped immediately. And yeah, so like something I

(38:56):
wasn't interested in.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I telt about the friend Friday the Thirteenth remake, they
would yeah, and then they kill that person.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah, that's such a good example. So there's that I'm
not gonna spoil anything. There's just this character in it
that's like supposed to be like an influencer, like like streamer,
YouTuber kind of character. I don't really know how to
classify her, but she was so fun and she's not
in it a lot. Let's just say that, And it's
just like why. And also I think this isn't a spoiler,

(39:28):
but Jennifer love hewittt isn't in it a lot because
it's more about the younger kids. So yeah, it doesn't matter.
She's just not And every time she's on screen, I'm like,
why isn't this whole movie about her? Why isn't she
just the only one in this movie? Just because like
I feel like there wasn't a ton of work done
to something that, whether you like it or not, something

(39:49):
that I think the first new Scream does, Scream Prime,
it actually does try to get you ingratiated to these characters.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Like, yeah, it does. Because I'm not again I'm not
the a fan of like the new iterations of Scream,
but I do agree. I think what Scream five Yeah
does is it understands we need to create a new
group for you, but we also know that half of
the more than half the audience is coming here for

(40:18):
Sydney and Gale and so on, And I think it
does a really good way of weaving them together so
that you're like, you're invested in both because you're invested
in one or the other, and then it which is
it well, And I think that's like one of the
problems though, is and other movies are like, oh, that's
what we have to do, But it's really about setting

(40:39):
up a franchise now, so it's the young people that matter,
and like you could make you could have made just
a quick reboot if you just needed young people. Like
the reason people got excited about this is because driven
Jennifer love Hewett.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah, and so to have her present but also not present, yeah,
it's strange. And I and none of the characters, and
it follows a similar format to the original obviously, so
you're gonna lose some of the characters. So it's almost
like I felt as though there was a bit of
like who cares they're gonna go anyways, Like but like,

(41:16):
I don't know why bothered that. Yeah, So I was
a little disappointed, but like I will rewatch it, And
now that my expectations are a little bit more level,
I can I would maybe appreciate it more upon rewatch
it is. It is strange, it does strange things, So
that reason I'd like to hear your thoughts on.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, I knew I wouldn't see in the theater. It's
one that I will when it comes to one of
my streamers. I will sit down and watch it because
I'm curious. But I also feel like I know I'm
gonna go in with low expectations, so it might end
up exceeding them no matter what.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Oh, you know another reason why I want you to
watch it.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I do so.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I don't know if you saw the hubbub around Jennifer
of Hewitt on the carpet, however, it was calling her.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Fat, Yeah she like like a stunning, like a stunning
forty two year old.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, so in this movie you one
would assume she has a similar body type, and she does.
They dress her like she's an asshole. And it made
me so mad because because we are both I believe
both larger chested, curvy or gals. I haven't called that
yes to different degrees, but like we both lived this life.

(42:30):
You don't pile clothes on people who have who have
maybe like a larger bust, because all it does is
make them look bulky. And so the whole time, I'm like,
you have this stunning, hammer ready woman and you're dressing
her like an asshole. So I thought you might have
feelings on that.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Oh God, I'm gonna be so angry when I watched this.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
They like put her in like like like a casual
T shirt with like a blazer over it.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
This is why suddenly we were talking earlier about how
like the season is changing and I'm not ready for
it and so on. But now I'm starting to think, like,
you know what, maybe I'm ready for, like the Hallmark
movies again, because say a lot of shit about these
Hallmark movies and Hallmarker Jason, but Lifetime and so on.
They know how to dress women in their forties. Yeah,
and you watch these movies and you're like, wow, I

(43:18):
want that pea coat. Wow, I oh, that's what I
should do with a turtleneck. Because they have women doing
costumes for women like them, and they know what is
flattering and it is. Jennifer love Hewitt looks great in
her Lifetime movie last Year. I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
But that and I bet you they like fucking knew
how to put clothes on her. It was like it
was like comedic. We we talked about it so much.
The woman is in the movie maybe ten minutes, and
we talked about how they dressed her for like an hour.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
It was so annoying. I get it, I get it.
Oh that's frustrating.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Okay. Well, one of the newer, uh general movies I
saw last week. I went to see with my brother
and my niece. We went to the theaters to see
The Long Walk.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Oh so I've heard a lot of stuff. What say you?

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I think it was very good. I read the book
maybe about five years ago, and I like the book
a lot. It's my kind of book, it's my kind
of story. And what was really fascinating to me going
to see this movie was I knew it was Francis Lawrence,
who I knew was Hunger Games, and I'm watching this
movie and I had to remind myself, like, oh, but

(44:29):
he's Hunger Games too on because something this movie does.
I think that actually that aside from like, oh, obviously
it makes sense that you would get a Hunger Games
director for this because it's a very similar concept. It
is dystopian future young people being forced in this strange
game where they're all going to die but one and watching.

(44:50):
And something that I think the first Hunger Games movie does,
which is not this director, that's Gary Ross, that I
think the movie got criticized for, but I think it
does really well because the Hunger Games keep showing up
on cable, so I have them on in the background
a lot when I cook. And what the first film
does is it establishes the sort of dust bowl depression

(45:10):
District twelve landscape to me really effectively, where it's this
very like Shirley Jackson inspired lottery type heels nineteen thirties
and like. And it could have been much bigger, and
I think the Francis Lawrence films go much bigger. But
the Long Walk could also be done as a very

(45:32):
like in the book, you have a little more of
like not specifically a TV presence, but it's a little
clearer that the whole nation is watching this event. And
what this movie does that's really interesting because it's Francis
Lawrence and not Derek carry Ross, is it makes it
much in it you don't get flashes to people watching.
There's no TV screens, there's no cameraman, there's no there's

(45:55):
none of that. It is just focused on these boys
doing this walk, which is I think an approach that
works because I think we've seen the other version of
this a lot recently, so to just make it very
stark and very you know, very plain. They're walking through
a landscape that doesn't really change because they're just walking
through miles an hours, they're not going that far. Like.

(46:18):
All of that I think is a really like it's
actually a bold choice in not being not making a
giant choice. Yeah, And I think that works really effectively.
I think the kids are great. The two main leads,
the Philips and marsham rof and Son and the other
boy whose name I forget, who's on the Industry, which
is a show that I tried to watch, but I
I don't know if I just don't get it because
I find it dull. But he's great. It's a very

(46:41):
it's not it for it being what it is. It
is not mean in terms of it would have been
very easy to make these Yeah, it would have been
very easy to make these characters vicious and to have
a villain and this and that, and even when you
think you're getting that, like the movie kind of moves
with that in ways that I kind of matched the book.

(47:04):
But you didn't have to go that direction in film,
Like you could have made it easy to hate this
one kid and wait for this one kid to fall,
but it doesn't do that, and I I found it
really effective. I thought it was as good an adaptation
of this material as one could make.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah, that's interesting. So you quelled a lot of my
like reservations or concerns, like I have no desire to
see this movie if it's mean spirited, right, this this story,
but the way people had been reacting and responding to
it made me think that that, like that wasn't the case.
So often, I think we're finding step for me, at least,

(47:40):
Stephen King's stuff is made or broken by who's doing it. Yeah,
and it's not one hundred percent a hit or one
hundred percent a miss for me. It's really dependent on
who's handling it. So it sounds like it's the best
case scenario for it to I think so good. Yeah, yeah,
I think I mean writing there's the pressing stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Here, but I think it really like holds onto its
heart in a way that I think could have turned
Like there's probably some people out there that are like, ah,
but I think that is really important and I I
don't know, like I was really happy with it, and
I think it could have gone a lot of different directions.

(48:20):
So I do recommend it.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
I will be watching it when it's available, for sure,
get it. This is not my pick, but I just
wanted to throw out there that I recently rewatched the
entire Legal Lear's mini scenes.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Oh my god, I visually think about those monsters once
a week.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
It's so good, Like I stand by it. It's not good,
but it's so good. And that's all I'm just saying,
Like I like, sometimes I like Stephen Kingshit, man, I
don't like Stephen Kingshit direct from the source. I need
it to be cut and sometimes and sometimes it's cut
just so.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
I need Belkie and I need cgi cartoon monsters. I don't.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
I guess it really could just be like because I
saw it when I did, like when it aired, it
like it imprinted on me, and so watching it now,
I'm like, oh my god, I remember certain things word
for word. I don't know, man, that movie is something else.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
I think. So there's there's so many because I I
don't think I watched that more than like one and
a half times, and I read I remember reading the
book that was like that might have been my first
Stephen King. Actually, now what I think about it cool.
I remember at summer camp. I had taken like four
past midnight with me to summer camp, and so it
was very impressive. It was like a giant book, and
I was, you know, a little nerd. I will never

(49:39):
forget obviously balky and when you actually see them, because
I remember reading that book and picturing the monsters and
like that's kind of what I landed on and I'm like,
but it can't look like this. And then when I
saw on the miniseries and like, oh no, they just
went for it. And I remember when I forget what
actor is playing the like Australian, I can't remember, but

(50:02):
when he is flying the plane at the end, and
I just will always remember his line reading of it's beautiful, yeah,
bloody beautiful.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Uh Mark Lindsey Chapman. Do we know who that is?

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (50:15):
I guess he was in Titanic. I've never seen it,
so I don't know that's right.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
One day, We're gonna do Titanic one day.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Yeah, there's just certain line readings. H Dean Stockwell's also
in it. And David Morse I'm now just talking to.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
David Horse is the pilot, right yep.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
And Bronson Pinchot as deferly mentioned. And it's super super
super low budge. But that's not like the point. It's
like the concepts.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Man, it's such a great concept, like.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
The Langoleers come and eat the past when it's expired, man,
and they got on a time. It's so good.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah. And I loved the book or the short story
because it's like the way they describe how like something
is wrong here and they talk about how when you
eat food but it doesn't it doesn't satisfy and it
doesn't have flavor like it's I mean, like every so
many Stephen King properties. It's a great idea with a
bad ending, but it's that's something that is something I so.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, I don't know, it's fun, I guess.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
So I watched a nineties mini series that I'd like
to mention, Oh do it okay, So, as you know,
my husband and I enjoy our dinner with an episode
of Jeopardy that has been their routine for many years now. However,
this cruel thing happens in August where Jeopardy goes on
hiatus and suddenly we're left thinking what do we do

(51:35):
when we eat dinner? So my husband had been watching
on Canopy a bunch of these sort of like lectures
about different Like there was this great lecture series about
Merlin and about like King Arthur, legends and stuff done
by this really appealing, very funny like professor who would

(51:55):
just talk about Merlin and everything. And I would watch
it a little bit with Bretton who's watching them, And
I'm I'm like, you know, I used to love the
nineteen ninety six nineteen ninety eight I think miniseriies Merlin.
I wonder how that holds up? And sure enough it's
on Amazon Prime. So I'm like, you know what we're
gonna do instead of Jeopardy. We're gonna rewatch nineteen ninety
eight's three episode NBC produced Merlin. Do you remember when

(52:19):
this air? Did you watch it?

Speaker 3 (52:21):
So pretend like I haven't picked up my phone yet
to look into this. Hold, Okay, I head right there,
all right, I don't know what you're talking about I
was like, TV.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Wait, okay, in the nineteen nineties, right, miniseries were a thing,
is it, Sam Neil Ah, No, I've never heard of this.
Oh my god. Okay, so the year's nineteen ninety eight,
and you well, ah, keep looking down that casker all there.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
I just I just saw rugger Hower. This is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yep, yep, Miranda Richardson, sure, Martin Short, you just made
the car let a heady.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
This isn't real.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
And then everybody that eventually had like small roles in
Game of Thrones is in this show at yeah. Uh
so this again, the nineties was like a great era
for TV miniseries. You had at the stand you had
And nineteen ninety eight, NBC decided to do Merlin and
I was like talking about this very fondly because I
remembered how excited I was because I was a big

(53:20):
Entertainment Weekly kid. So there was a big article about
this show coming out. I'm like, oh my god, fantasy.
We never got fantasy in that era that really like
was considered a money loser and it was expensive to produce.
But NBC did the show and it was and it
was a hit. And then they did like The Odyssey
after and a few other with diminishing returns. They did
the Glorious Travels with Ted Danson.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Oh I remember that though, Yeah, that came.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
After Merlin because Merlin was a hit. Uh so Marland
and it's great, like the it's Merlin, you know it's
and it's very it's you know, it is according to
the legend. So it's all the the things that happen
in the story and so on, and there's Lancelot and
everything else. But it's such a good cast. They're treating

(54:04):
the material very seriously. It looks gorgeous. A lot of
the effects look really good, Like the makeup looks great.
There's Cgi that's very ninety CGI, but it's you know,
as you expected to be ninety CGI. And this was
just like for me because I did watch it a lot,
like I recorded it on DHS, so I like remember
like watching in college. I really enjoyed revisiting this.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
I mean, I can't kind of see why it's not
really a thing that we do. And with that big
fat cast and like all those spaces, it is kind
of like a bit of an oddity time capsule now, right,
Like that's not really how when you see a big,
fat cast like that, it's usually like, you know, like

(54:49):
a Marvel movie or something like yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Or it's like an HBO limited series likestigious. And this
was done for you know, the eight PM Crown, and
I thought it held up pretty well.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
You know, that's interesting because this is now the second
time we've kind of ventured into this point. It's a
real shame that they don't make quality things that are
accessible to a wide range of audiences in age groups. Yep,
everything is so like hyper niche. Yeah, and then if
it's not, it's like Yellowstone where.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Which it ends up being like not niche, but just
ends up like being this one like Calf of the Country.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
No, it's a very good point. I wish, I wish
for things that were like like Merlin. While not challenging,
is also like a bit challenging. It's a big concept,
a big world, and it can be unfamiliar and also
it's got like an interesting tone. It can be very
fantastical but very serious. Man, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I mean, I guess like Game of Thrones kind of
was that. I think I would.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Argue that's not that's not accessible because of the sexual
undertones too true. This is true because you wouldn't like
give that to like a twelve year old.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
No, and you have people walking away from it because
of it.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
So that's so interesting. Yeah, I have a movie I
want to hear it. I think it's on Shutter, but
I think it's other places. I had never heard of it.
It's a from nineteen eighty seven. It's called The Outing, Outing,
but I also believe it's called the Lamp, the Lamp,

(56:28):
and it's more about the lamp isting.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Oh no, oh, oh my, just twenty eleven's the Lamp.
It looks like it has one of ID to watch
this movie now. It looks like a genie movie with
a dog and the poster is a kid with a
backwards cap and then a bunch of other actors with
Lewis Goss Junior and Jason Lundon and Meredith Salinger and

(56:54):
I need to see this movie. But continue about the
Outing slash Lamp, because that's probably a more enjoyable moving
for most of our audience.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
What that Yeah, nineteen eighty seven, So it's about they
apparently claim to be in high school, but they're full
ass adults. This group of people that decide to stay
overnight in a museum. But the museum is like the
Houston Museum of like Natural History, which I've been to,
so it was really cool to see. But also they're

(57:22):
really in the museum, so it's kind of got like
chopping mall energy in that regard, like because they're really
in the mall, you know, at night, so they're really
in this museum, and like I think one of the
girls's father found a lamp that has like a thing
going on with it and she gets possessed by I

(57:45):
don't know. It's very cool. There are parts of it
I don't remember because I watched it late at night,
but it's very strange and I think it's worth watching,
especially especially if you have any type of ties to
the museum itself Houston or Texas. It's got that feel.
But also if you just like movies where people are
in an interesting place, which I think we both.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Oh yes, yeah, it's it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
How often do you see a movie that's set in
like an actual museum, Like they walk by big dinosaur
bone stuff. What if it was called fossils. Boy, they
walk by like big fossils and shit that are like
actually in that museum. It's really cool.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Well, I mean, I don't, so I want to tell
you about a movie set in the museum that's also
a genre movie came out in the year two thousand,
was a bit censored because of the Columbine stuff, okay,
but it was set in a so it was filmed
in Long Island. But it was set in a museum
in Alaska where a bunch of teenagers go to this

(58:49):
museum and they all end up like they break into
the museum after hours to have fun, and they end
up all like playing with and desecrating different artifacts of
American history, which summons the spirits of American historical figures,
but in zombie form, okay, And it did not get

(59:11):
a wide release unless you count the other a history
classes in Patrick Medford High School in the year two
thousand and Long Island. This was obviously the underground title
Zombies Ate My Classmates, which was written and produced and
directed by myself and a couple of my friends in
high school for ap American history project.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
So do you still have it?

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yes? I do.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Why don't you let me see it?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
I really should have Brandon make it accessible that way. YEA.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Honestly, I know that we're not one of those types
of shows, but if we had like a Patreon or
something like, that's the type of thing that you need
to like paywall.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, I mean it was to me. So I was
very proud of the concept because the concept awesome, right,
like how we had to make and it was like
our final project was like I don't want to make
a movie that has something American history, so okay, here's
a way where we can combine all these American historical figures.
And the reason I said it in Alaska was because

(01:00:12):
I knew we could not film at night, so we
had a running every couple of mens a character would say,
the lights are always on in Alaska.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Oh my god, you've always been you I have, yes, Yes,
I love it. It's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I have a small role in the film. I'm one
of the first to die. I played a character who
was obsessed with physics and Albert Einstein, and I piss
off the ghost of Albert Einstein who comes and beats
me over the face with a science book. And this
is after I sing the hit single of that year.
Albert Einstein is the sex machine. So yeah, it's probably

(01:00:51):
not as good as the Lamp or the outing or
the lamp from twenty eleven. But I just wanted to say,
I guess maybe I sold the concept from that movie without.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Knowing, Well it minds think of life.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Really yep, definitely, let's see. Oh I have one that
you recommended, And we finally got around to watching, Oh shit,
because it showed up on TCM and I'm like, heavy
know this title. Christine said I should watch this title,
and so I'm gonna record it, and I sat down
with my husband and we watched the last of Sheila.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Oh what did you think?

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Oh? Really fun?

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Yeah, it's good, right, I have that on my list
to rewatch after all the spooky stuff. But it's it's
like if memory serves, it's formulaic, but also like manages
to do some interesting different stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Oh yeah, I mean it's an amazing cast. Diane Channon,
for me, was a standing I wanted in an entire
movie of her. I thought James Cobert, God, he could
play a good asshole.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Ridiculous what I found.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
And also like, like every I not to be like
very what's the word I'm looking for? Very? Like surfacey?
But I this when I watched like Children of the
corn five, and I'm like, my god, like Ava Mendez
in this movie isn't doing anything special. She's young, but like, geez,
anybody watching this would say I want her in more
movies because like her face is so gorgeous on camera,

(01:02:14):
and watching the Last of Sheila, I'm like, my god,
Riquel Welch like just shohn like every time she moves
her face, I'm just like, god, like I'm the same
species as this woman. How is that possible? I like
this a lot. I thought the ending went on a
little long.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
I think, yeah, I could probably agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
And I thought that the there was an element in
this movie that I thought was really interesting because I
don't know how much of it is if you're approaching
it as like I'm a mystery person, so I'm like
looking at all the clues here. But there's like a
reveal early on that I was trying to I'm like,
should I have seen that? Because I kept thinking about it,

(01:02:57):
and it comes into play later on in the movie,
and it's just such an interesting like thing to drop
in the movie for if you pay attention, you see this.
So therefore you know not to trust somebody the entire time.
So it's not that like, oh I figured it out,
but like I kind of knew, well, this can't be
right because I've seen this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Do you know what I'm talking about? No, I don't,
because I don't want to say it for anybody else
that's gonna see it and give anything away.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Well, this is why I really want to rewatch it. Yeah,
because like I've gotten to the point where I sing
its phrases so much, but like I don't remember certain
parts of it, so I really need to look back
at it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
But it it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
It's I remember thinking like, wow, this is exactly like
formulaic but also is kind of subversive, and I wonder
what made me think that? Maybe it's the thing you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Mmm, not necessarily that, although maybe that ties into a
character so maybe interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Okay, Yeah, I'm definitely gonna rewatch it, but like, I
don't know, man, that's like such a classic setup too,
and I think they do such cool stuff with it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Yep, agreed, agreed, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
How much more do we got? What do you say?

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I have got? I got one more that I definitely
want to go over. I have two more that I
could talk about, but what more do you have, because
I'll keep you eving.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
The last one that I really want to talk about
is in a movie that I think has been bouncing
around for a while but I never really took seriously.
It's two thousand and five's I guess Tamara or Tamara,
I don't know. I don't remember how they say her
name in the movie Tamara, I guess it's so it's

(01:04:29):
the woman from Step Up, the first Step Up movie.
So I guess Channing Tatum's uh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
For a while, okay? Written by Jeffrey Reddick, who is
the final the first final Destination guy. I believe, yes, yes, yes, Uh, Jeremy,
I don't know the director? Oh his Uh, the director
is Jeremy half who I don't know. But when you
click on his profile and IMDb, I guess just Dance

(01:04:58):
Kids twenty fourteen was his most known for because there's
a video that I really will watch after this is over.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Oh that's funny on a letterbox. When you click into him,
he doesn't really have anything, which is a shame because
he wrote and directed Grizzly Mountain.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Do I know? Wait? And Christney Mountains sounds familiar.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
I don't know. It's a the cover looks familiar. I
feel like it was like a Disney style kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I feel like I have seen skills from this movie
used in like memes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
I think maybe, yeah, yeah, very possibly. But this movie
is a movie that like it's got big nineties energy,
like really big late nineties energy, but it's two thousand
and five, and there's something about it that always struck
me as like I'm not gonna like this, but I
know enough people that really wrap it and like push
it that I thought it would be interesting to look at.

(01:05:51):
I do think it's worth watching. It's very much that like,
isn't this girl so ugly? Isn't this weird girl so ugly?
I'm like, no, no, brother, I have eyes. This is
the girl from.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
The first movie.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Yeah, like I know who this is, but like her
classmates are all like super mean to her just because
she's like super ugly. You know that style of story.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Oh yes, yes, I've been there, yes, and then and then.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
She gets like revenge on them. So it very much
feels like of this that ilk, that green ilk. But like,
I don't know, it's weird and interesting and this this
woman is compelling to watch. I would say, yes, So
I'm glad I watched it. I think that one was

(01:06:35):
like a like A to B style. Maybe not, maybe
I had to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
It looks like it's on to be. I can't tell
if it's leaving to Be in ten days or leaving
Fandango and ten days Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Well it's it was. It was bouncing around, so I
decided to finally watch it. I think it's worth it,
especially if it's something that's been on your radar, or
you do feel like you're that kind of high school
like nineties era, like disturbing behavior movie complete East that
I'd say, go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Yeah, I get to those moods. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Female Killers also like super valid subgenre.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Always always all right. The last thing I'll talk about
is I don't know if it's a recommend but I
feel like I need to mention it, and I have.
I've kind of gone through journeys with it. I think
ultimately I respect what it's doing and I think aspects
of it are very strong. But it's a hard movie
to broadly recommend. Uh. This is one that I saw

(01:07:30):
at Jacob Burns and there was a director Q and
a after, which was very exciting to see because this
is a director who I have followed pretty closely. I
have seen this is now three of his four films.
I missed the third one, but it is our astros Eddington.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Okay, So I stopped paying attention to this person's movies
a while ago. This came out and I was shocked.
I was like, what is this movie? Who tell me
about your feeling here?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Okay? So I this is a movie that in a
lot of ways benefited from me going to a crowded
theater to see it, because it's the the energy of
a crowd. On one hand, was it was after a while,
it just became really interesting to understand what people were

(01:08:21):
like gasping at and laughing at and so on. And
also because this is a movie that I think I
may not have stayed with knowing it was fairly long,
and the first like ten minutes of this movie, I
was like, oh God, I'm here for a while, and
I don't know that I want to be so because

(01:08:41):
I but I think it turns a corner and ultimately
is more interesting than maybe I initially thought it was. So.
Eddington is set in twenty twenty one in a New
Mexico town. Joaquin Phoenix plays the show, and now I
am not I kind of hate him as a person,

(01:09:04):
but I will rarely dine. I think he's a very
good actor, and I think he's very good in this
He is to me, it was very clear from the
beginning that he is a pathetic man. What was fascinating
and watching this movie was kind of feeling the audience,
much of the audience feel for him, and to me,

(01:09:27):
I never did. I was like, oh, no, this this
guy is. This guy's awful, Like you feel a little
bad for him beause hes kind of pathetic, but like, no,
he's pathetic and should be pathetic. But you could hear
like the audience go like oh at times when he
was like sad, and it was very weird for me,
like am I getting the same thing as these other

(01:09:47):
people around me? I don't think everybody felt that way,
but it's that's the thing about a theater is that
you hear reactions in a certain way, and it early
on in the movie it feels like it is a
very both sides SI type movie, kind of like a
little south Park style. It actually feels very south Park

(01:10:08):
in a lot of ways. Just also the fact that
it said in a you know, a town in the
middle of America and this kind of climate and it
it's what. So by the time the movie keeps going
and I kind of turn a corner on it, I'm like, okay,
like I see where it's going, I see what it's doing.

(01:10:29):
It's like clearly like watching this movie. By a certain point,
I'm like, okay, no, our aster is is a liberal
like and it's not clear at first what side I
think the movie is on, because the movie is very
much saying both sides are screaming and they're both right
and wrong and so on. And then I think it's
a point where it's like, no, I think this is

(01:10:50):
very clear what it's saying. And so then the the
movie hits kind of a climax which Jimmy just goes
on forever. But then it kind of comes back. And
I thought the ending, like the final ending of this movie,
and the code of this movie I thought was brilliant.
And so then Ari Asker comes there for the Q
and A, and it was very I don't know, like
he was not what I expected at all in person.

(01:11:13):
He is is I don't know. I was thinking of
him as like, oh, I bet he's gonna be like
very kind of like kind of like a Joaquin Phoenix
type on stage, and he's not at all like he's
this like little nerdy guy. He was clearly like he's
clearly kind of anxious, I think, but was also like
really seemed like a really like nice person in the

(01:11:34):
Q and A Like there were a lot of like
college and high school kids in the audience that would
ask questions and he was like you could tell he
was very like kind to them about like that's a
wonderful question. I used to think I used to wonder
that myself. Like, so it was like very I was like, oh,
he's like a very endearing person and everything. And as
he was talking, I think it was clear to me

(01:11:54):
that like his heart was in the right place with
this movie. I think he wanted to approach material in
He's from New Mexico, and I think he was there
in part during the pandemic, and so I think he
did come at this with a I know these people,
I know like both sides of these people, and I

(01:12:16):
want to be able to like put everything out there
and put like, you know, the guy that was didn't
want to wear a mask and why he thought his
freedoms were being violated and all that. So I did
like within like and I think I kind of by
the end of the movie felt this, but also the
Q and a kind of like clinched it for me.
Of like, no, he is definitely like he saw things

(01:12:40):
and he put them out there, but there is definitely
a storytelling that is driving a certain direction. At least
to me, That's what I got, But I also could
have been watching it in my own vacuum. The what
he also said at the end of the movie, where
there were two things that I thought, like really were
very that I think clear up the movie and make
you if you watch it again, and from this point

(01:13:00):
of view, it makes perfect sense. One thing he said
was he wanted to make a movie that felt like
the Internet, which it does, like it does feel like
you were on in a way you saw hashtag horror, right, yeah, yeah, Like,
and that's a similar movie where it's very annoying as
a movie, like it's not fun to watch, but I
get what the director's doing and I think it's really

(01:13:21):
genius for what she's going for, and like in that way,
I'm like, no, this fits that, Like it does feel
like what he's trying to do. And then the other
thing he said, he's like, when people ask me what
my movie's about, I just say it's about a small town.
It's about building a data center in a small town.
And that also makes perfect sense, and it's something that
is there in the entire movie. At the very end
of the movie, it comes back and again it kind

(01:13:44):
of reframes everything in a very clear way to me
of like, right, all of this, like all of our
kind of back and forth and our individual like you know,
we think performing our own opinions, but everything is kind
of guided by this and then it's collected and this
like it's it's a very like pessimistic look at things,

(01:14:04):
but it's also kind of brilliant in that way. So
I don't know, it's it's a it's one that I think,
is I kind of respect more than I enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
That's interesting. Yeah, I get that. It's really there's a
million things you said that made my teeth clunch, So
I think, yeah, I think that's gonna be a no
for me yet for now at least, But like I
totally get what you're saying, and it sounds like it
was at least a worthwhile experience.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Oh, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Yeah, Honestly, sometimes with a like great if a director
can deliver some kind of experience or some kind of
thought experiment, that's like best case scenario.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Yeah, And I mean it's a swing. And I respect
a lot that he made this movie. I think he
certainly could have gone in a like and he's had
an interesting career where it basically he had two huge
hits that were tiny horror movies and then he went
in a very different direction. I did both as Afraid
is the one I haven't seen, and like this this,

(01:15:00):
like this movie is designed to be polarizing and it's
designed to not you know, this isn't an Awards movie,
and I respect that about him. I think, on one hand,
like it feels too soon to make this movie, but
also it makes sense that you would make it when
it's still like fresh enough in a lot of performers'

(01:15:21):
minds to do it. But I wonder this is one
that I think will will really be interesting to revisit
in like ten years, fifteen years. I think it's gonna
be a very odd time capsule that is, like I
don't know, it's one that's gonna say a lot of
things differently. In a while, so I'm glad and it's

(01:15:43):
again this is one of those cases where, like, had
I watch this at home, I think I would have
had a very I just think I would have hated it.
Seeing in a theater where I was kind of forced
to engage with it in a different way, it was
a much like more fulfilling experience, even if ultimately I
don't know that I actually like would recommend the movie
not loosely, and there are people that like, you know,

(01:16:05):
if you're gonna not like not be able to tolerate
this movie, and if you are open to it, I
think there's a lot there that like, if nothing else,
it's you know it, it wants to challenge and it
doesn't always work, but it's it's trying something. Yeah that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
I mean at least at least he's doing stuff. I'd
rather that than someone just like churning out the same
thing that that they got popular down. I mean, that's
that to me, is a real artist, to real someone
who's really interesting and interested in exploring stuff. And that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Yeah, I think in many ways, and I wonder at
what point this will change. It is so easy to
put him and oh, God, what's his name? The Witch,
the Vivich guy. Yeah, like to put Robert Eggers in
our aster. Like their paths so far have been so parallel,
where like two genre movies, then a sort of experimental movie,

(01:17:00):
then the next one like was where they've sorted to
diverge a bit and I can't remember we talked about
No Staratu. I watched it and felt and they kept
long asleep. I found it very boring. But it's just
an interesting way of like seeing like two artists who
I think in many ways like have a lot of
like similar DNA and are equally I think, very talented

(01:17:23):
in different ways, like to see like they're gonna be
very interesting mirrors for the next like thirty years of filmmaking.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Yeah, that is interesting. Someday I look forward to watching
any of the movies that they've made. I don't watch
those movies. I can't quantify to you why it's not
really conscious. I'm just not interested.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
You really haven't seen The Lighthouse Er of the Thevich.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
I saw The Witch, and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
I plan on watching The Witch again because I remember
enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
It would be a good October movie.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Yeah, it's definitely on the I'm saving a lot of
special stuff for the month itself. But and Ari is
Hereditary in midsummer Yep. Yeah, I've also obviously seen those
quite a few times. But yeah, I haven't seen anything
other than that and then The Witch from Eggers. And
it's not like I'm not making like a moral stance

(01:18:17):
or anything. It's just and I could be wrong because
I haven't seen them, so what do I know. But
they seem like very masculine movies. And I just mean
that in the opposite of feminine. I don't mean that
as like a reflection of like strength or power. They
just seem like they have a very masculine point of view.
And I don't really feel like that's where I want
to put a lot of my energy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Yeah, I mean the Lighthouse is like, by definition, it's
two men in a lighthouse. Yeah, but I I recommend it.
I think I think it is weird and funny and
bizarre and unlike anything. And I had had a blast
with it. And if both of these filmmakers I have
not yet seen. Their third film was Afraid of the
northmand which is also their longest one. O.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Well, I saw way way I saw the norn. I lied,
I saw that Northman, did you like it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
I haven't seen it yet. It was fine, Okay, it
just seems very long. It is long.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
I think I was a little bit more patient with
it than Zach was. He ended up getting like like
really born. Yeah, and like I he'll reference it like,
not in like a disparaging way, but just as like
an example of a time where he wasn't enjoying something
or something didn't work. So it definitely didn't necessarily hit
I think it's it's undeniable though, because if you look

(01:19:28):
at the cast, like me of all people, is not
going to say a single negative word about that cast, right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
About having Nicole Kidman and Dafoe on screen, Come.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
On, come on, so like in that in that regard obviously,
like there's a lot of stuff there. But maybe that's
when I decided I wasn't really interested too, like like
and it's fine and to your to your larger point,
which I think is really astute, like these are gonna
be reflective like little time capsules of this time we're
living in and and maybe at some point that's when
I'll feel like I'm more interested in checking them out

(01:19:59):
when they have more of a reflective quality than like
a current quality.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I mean, it took me forty something years to see
Yental in Nashville.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
So there, movies are forever and that's the great thing
about them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
That's right. Nobody's coming to take my Children of the
Core in Part five Fields of Terror DVD away from me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
It's true hashtag physical media. Everyone else, isn't it so exciting?
It's coming back?

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Everybody's like, wait a second, I should own this, and
I'm like, yeah, you should.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Like I don't want to say this too loud because
I don't really want enough people to do it to
where like producing companies understand it. But do you realize
how affordable seasons of complete series TV DVDs are right now?

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
Yeah? You can, especially if you're gonna go secondhand. I
see the complete collections of every show constantly in every
second hand store I go to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
We've just been doing it because like Brannon is a completist.
So he looked at my shelf and got mad that
I only had, like, I don't know, three seasons of
the Office on DVD. I'm like, well, I don't really,
it's always on TV, and so it's like no, no, no,
I was just gonna get the series. It was only
like thirty bucks somewhere, and it's like, that's like over
one hundred hours of content that I now have, and

(01:21:14):
it's it's yeah, it's so cheap, and you could have
it forever. And when they yank it offline or when
they start editing it to fit into time slots, you
have to deal with that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Yep. Remember when seasons of TV, especially like like TV
was like sixty dollars for a new season, Like when
the new season of True Blood came out, it was
like sixty dollars on DVD, not Blu Ray, not anything fancy.
They said, oh, it's sixty dollars to just watch the show. Yeah,

(01:21:45):
And now you can just walk into pretty much any
Goodwill and there's a thousand copies of every season of True.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
One that's it was sixteen hundred was the one where
I think I had seasons like one, two, and three,
and it was just simply because like well because those
were what were on sale at Sam's Club, and the
other two hadn't come out yet, so I never got
around to buying them. So yeah, yep, yep, now I
have an oz I love it. Yeah, and I can
at any given point in time in the bond. It's

(01:22:14):
of the Brady Bunch. I tell you how he like.
This is how much I love my husband. I came
home and I had he had gotten just like giant thing.
It's all the Brady Bunch episodes, plus the made for
TV movies, plus the the theatrical movies in the nineties.
The only thing missing was it did not have the
Variety Hour, which he then found also on eBay. So

(01:22:37):
now I have the Variety Hours.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Well, yeah, that's pretty impressive. My my media hoarding husband
would enjoy that quite a bit as well. Yeah. It's
thrilling to like get that stuff. Yeah, yeah, I think. Yeah,
I'm glad people are getting it again. I do understand
like that original like thrill of free of like you mean,

(01:23:00):
I can have everything and I don't have to carry
all this stuff around, right, But it was never with
that with no strings attached, because I remember the last
time I visited you in New York, which was over
a decade ago, us talking about them just taking stuff
off your kindle.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Yep, and it can do that, and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Like, uh, that was that then, Like we and it's
only gotten like, yeah, yeah, so I ditched all. I
ditched not all, but a lot of my CDs. I
purged things out of my DVD collection that I kind
of in hindsight, which I hadn't but I never got
rid of it completely. I'm glad I didn't, because at

(01:23:44):
least I have a base to start like collecting the
things I care about.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Again, Yeah, and I get space is an issue for
a lot of people, for sure, But I mean, like
and DVD's like they take up room, but they don't
take them that much room. And for us, like it's
you know, our entire living room is shelves of DVDs
and Blu rays and that's to me, like that's decorating.
Like we could put art there, or I could put

(01:24:09):
you know, every Nightmare in Elm Street and Children in
the Corn that I'll eventually watch.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Well, that's a good point, because the space is an issue.
But like, and then this is no shade. People have
no problem collecting like Funko pops and like or like
even like let's say precious figures. Yeah, like whatever, but
like to me, you're right, to me, this is like
something I want to look at and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
It, and actually use. Yeah, it's like most things, it's
a decoration. Like I am proud. I forget what the
run was, but I have this like one run of
DVD's where it's like the Muppets Tea in which Texas
chains of Massacre tiptoes like we're alphabetically it just ends
up being the most random assortment of movies. Yeah, and
like that's art. And also it means at any given

(01:24:54):
point in life, I can watch Tiptoes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
It's a gif having like how you look at the
library and you're like, the library is a gift. You
can have your own library, and that too can be
a gift. My art isn't as glorious as yours. But
I have like a string of like five Cusack movies
all in a row, and I look over there and
I go, nobody can take that from me. I have

(01:25:19):
two copies of The Raven Blu ray and DVD. Nice,
I can always watch The Raven.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Yeah, it's a beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
World we live in, people, beautful truly. All Right, Well,
I don't know what we're gonna cover next. We'll talk
off Mike and see what we're gonna do. But in
the meantime, you have stuff like you started a newsletter
and things.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
I did start a newsletter. The best way to find
me is to if you can get on Blue Sky,
I'm X teen make peace on Blue Sky. I put
everything there. That's the whole thing with the newsletter is
I'm trying to streamline this shit. I started writing about
movies again. I started a series about my favorite found
footage movies. Okay, so if you're feeling found footage, follow

(01:26:06):
me for more of that. I'm going to try not
to talk about them on here, so you don't have
to listen to me talk about things twice but gets
the axes on my first list. And uh yeah, I'm
trying to do some other.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Stuff to branch out fantastic. Yeah, everybody follow Christine and
subscribe to her newsletter, like and subscribe the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
They do. And it's very common and influencer footage movies. Okay,
very very funny with that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Important to know. Yeah, well, yay, all right, folks, We'll
be back sometime with more snows who know who can say,
We'll talk to you then bye bye bye bye. Oh good.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
And my father's also a heath made the light of
this flickering candle illuminate the night the way your spirit
Illuminate's my salt. Papa, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Papa?

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Can you see me?

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Papa?

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Can you find me the night? Papa?

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Are you near me?

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
Papa? Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Papa?

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Can you help me not be fried? And?

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Looking at the skies, I seem to.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
See a million eyes which want, where are you?

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Now that yesterday has waved goodbye and closed its door.
The night is so much darker, the wind is so
much colder.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
The world I.

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
See is so much bigger. Know I'm alone, Paca, Please
forgive me, try to understand me.

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