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Speaker 1 (00:30):
What's good, folks. Welcome to another edition of the Cover
One Film Room, the show that gives you the hows
and the wise behind both the good and the bad
of the Buffalo Bills. I am one of your two hosts,
Anthony Pohaska, joined as always by Eric Turner. And Eric
we had discussed some things as we always do leading
into showtimes when we do go live or offline recorders.

(00:52):
Again as we as everyone knows, we're getting closer to
our regular rhythm and routine with the season coming up,
but we of course got real film to go through.
Who do we want to cover in the Bills preseason
game versus the Giants. Was it scheme stuff? Was it
individual players stuff? Was it positive? Was it negative? And
then okay, it's the day after hard Knocks. Let's talk
about hard Knocks a little bit and then kind of

(01:13):
falling in line with true Buffalo Bills in the Cover
one Film Room fashion. Some significant news dropped the day
of course, than yeah, thank you very much, Brandon bed As. Yeah,
I'm still thinking of the kind of the red wedding
day with the roster last year, and just so many
things that always funnel through. But Eric, we have a

(01:35):
very exciting episode today because not only we're going to
break down some Bills Giants tape individually and schematically. Not
only we're gonna talk a little bit about some hard
knocks pieces from last night, but we get to lead
off this episode with significant news regarding James Cook, the
hold in being over and he now being locked up
for the foreseeable future through the twenty twenty nine season

(01:55):
after signing an extension today with the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, breaking news, James Cook extend and in four years
up to forty eight million. I'm excited and interested to
learn the actual numbers on that, because twelve a year
is very solid for both sides, I will say, But
usually once you get into the nuts and bolts of that,
those numbers start to come out. It may even be
a sweeter deal because obviously this is from the agent.

(02:20):
They're trying to make it look like, hey, we got
them the most money we could. Obviously there's some different
incentive stuff and signing bonuses and work out all that
stuff that needs to get worked out and kind of
filtered through. And so for right now, those numbers, it's
a fair deal for both sides. Did I think Brandon
Bean would extend James Cook not really.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, I thought it had no shot, Like I thought,
but between the money there was rumored that he wanted,
plus the weight he kind of went about it. I
thought it was like no shot. I would have said
like five percent chance tops.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Right, And so that obviously the deal doesn't technically kick
in till after his rookie contract is kind of so
again I didn't think Bean would do it, but after
seeing Kyron Williams deal, which we talked about, I softened
on it from my perspective, not from the team's perspective.
And then obviously once we start talking and evaluating like

(03:16):
how important he is the offense and why they need him,
and we're gonna break down a bunch of that today,
you start to realize like how important he is and
was to this offense last year, and more importantly, how
far he's come from his rookie year. When we evaluated
him coming out of the you know, the draft, I
went back to some of those notes and some of

(03:37):
the stuff that we're going to talk about as strengths now,
we're actually some of his weaknesses for both of us
in many ways, and so that's gonna be fun to
talk about.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
But I'm okay with the deal.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think Brandon Bean has proven that, for the most part,
he does a good job with these contracts and this
organization does. And I'm a little shocked. But at the
same time, let's roll, Like, at this same time, let's
roll there's a nice four to five year window. The
Bills need everyone and anything to get over the hump
and make it to the super Bowl and win the

(04:08):
big game.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, that's a very fair point. And yeah, I'm in
a similar boat. I, like I mentioned, and like you
started with I, I was really I had already just
kind of made peace with it in my mind that
this would be his last season as a Bill. And
I was like, you know, someone could give him thirteen
fourteen to fifteen million on the open market. You know,
he'll go do his thing. Good for him, chase the bag,
no negativity, do you And yeah, just the hold in

(04:32):
and then him practicing yesterday, and I was like, is
it like it did? Did he realize it's dead in
the water and he's like, screw it, I'm gonna ball
out or is he going back to practice because the
deal is kind of imminent. And so that was intriguing.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, it's kind of funny as like we're trying
to like read the tea leaves sometime last week when
he decided that like to start the hold in. But
then like we were like, okay, then there's all these
like news leaks about hey, we're close, we don't know
why he's executing them hold in and so then you know,
when I was on with self on turfs of tape,

(05:06):
I'm like, the motive behind that it would be come
from the team, right, come from the team, like, hey,
we're close on the deal. Why is he pulling this now?
But it appeared to well and yes, come from the team.
But secondly, why Cook and his camp were doing that.
Obviously to protect him from injuries and all that, but
also I think they're trying to put pressure on being
in this organization to hey, let's wrap this up before

(05:27):
the season. We've been going at this for months and months.
Now you put it on pause, camps here. The season
is going to start soon. Obviously, James he wants to
play in week one of the regular season, like he
kind of has to at least play six games this
year to crew those numbers. But I think that they
put the pressure on being I do think in many
ways Cook's camp did win and kind of force issue

(05:49):
a little more. But at the same time, it's funny
because now, you know, as soon as they signed, Cook
beings like yeah, you know, or actually right before they signed,
he says, you know, in order for us to move
forward with this contract and do the signing, you got
to go to practice, and.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So yeah, practicing again, we're like, what is happening?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
And so it's been it's been a fun back and
forth some you know, I'm sure stressful for people involved,
but it's been interesting to see how things went and
went down and in the end, like I said, it's
a fair deal in my opinion for both sides.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, I you know, like you mentioned just now, I
think I think it does skew a little more towards
of a win for James Cook, like maybe it's fifty
five to forty five or forty seven or something. But
you're still and again it can be debated, especially now
with how football is and people know contracts stuff like
just should you ever pay a running back? Like is

(06:41):
he worth it? And there's a lot of fans we've
talked about today like Okay, what does this mean for
the Connor mcgovernment potential coming like resigning and there or
David Edwards like other guys that you've got in the pipeline.
How does that impact things or compromise those potential deals.
And there's never a right answer until you kind of
push things forward and see what comes out in the wash.
At the end of the day, Cook got a good deal,
you know, if it again, like you mentioned, we have

(07:03):
to see how everything irons out. Is it a four
year deal but it's really more of like a two
or a three based on how you like how it
can kind of end and be stopped. How does that
actual average annual value work out? Even the total I
think is a big one because the twelve million average
annual value one more than kyrone and slots have been good,
But that forty eight million dollar total is tied for
the most in the league for a running back with

(07:25):
Josh Jacobs and the Packers, So like that's also another
piece depending on how the agent wants to market it
at the team whatever. But like you said, you know,
I think it's a win for Cook and his agent,
who we thought kind of bungled things initially and at
the end of the day too. No matter what the
money is, the Bill's got a very important player to
their team, somebody who matters a lot overall, but especially

(07:47):
on that offensive side of the ball. And I think
that's something that's gotten lost with a lot of this
discussion is so many people have focused on the money
that he wants and the third down piece. I feel
like a lot of a lot of it has gone
by the wayside of how not just how good he
is in the scheme, but how he's played above it,
how he's improved, like you and I are going to
talk about in this episode. And that's a cool piece
as well that I'm excited to talk about in this

(08:08):
episode because we studied him a lot coming out of Georgia.
We talked about what he needed to do to improve
this league, and for the most part, he's improved in
all the areas that we said he needed improvement in,
and he's very worthy of getting the bag. And so
congrats to him and to the Bills for locking up
a really good player.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, Pen he's you're in there killing the comments right,
it's doing a great job. Yes, happy birthday, and you're
you're running the show right now. So Basically, they say,
I don't think this created a bad precedent for the
team with other players, I don't think less of Cook,
when when I agree, I don't think less of Cook.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I think both sides played pretty fair.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
And I think that Brandon Bean did have a little
chip on his shoulder because this is only hold in.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Or hold out that he's ever had in this.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
He said, he said he wasn't sleeping good because of it.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
He mentioned that, So I do think he took that
a little person. I think his feelings were a little
a little bit hurt because he does handle he feels
like he handles most of these contracts pretty fair. But again,
I think Cook was doing what's right for him and
his family and future, and so I totally get that.
I think it's it's fair. And then Pad and ads
I can take the fall for today. He isn't a
running back, He's an offense weapon. That's a very very

(09:17):
good point because you think about it from this perspective
is look at the wide receiver market. Look at the
wide receiver market and what those guys are getting paid,
and how many of those guys are on the field,
and what those guys are making. And then think about
James Cook in a similar light. Well, yes, he plays
running back. I know that there's that stigma if you

(09:39):
don't want to pay running backs, as you said to
lead off the show. But if you're thinking about him
as a weapon, which again he can be, do they
always use him like that? No, I mean when we're
talking snap percentages. But with the way the wide receiver
market is going, you're maybe you start to see a
shift where teams really commit money to running backs that

(09:59):
are dual threats in the run and pass game.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah. I think that's a fair point, even just going
off of I was looking it up as soon as
you mentioned that. Like Josh Palmer, who the Bills brought in.
We're excited for the role that he brings, but he's
not some top of the market wide receiver three years
twenty nine million dollars average annual value in nine point six.
Another guy who we talked about in the film room
earlier this offseason, two to at Well re signed with

(10:24):
the Rams one year, ten million dollars. Like the receivers
are getting paid like a regular receiver contract is now
from an average aneal value like ten eleven, twelve thirteen
million dollars per year, and we've seen that going back
the past couple of years. The deal that granted was
the Jags both times, but they gave Davis money, the
Christian Kirk money for the Jags. You're seeing guys get

(10:46):
paid in a variety of ways, and so that weapon
point and the usefulness point checks out. But also with
the nature of how the game is going, the running
game coming back in vogue, things being about condensed formations
and marrying the run in the past, more of the
menu without having to turn the page, and all that.
Maybe you weren't maybe this is just another bread crumb
towards seeing that shift of teams starting to pay guys,

(11:08):
and also too from a running back spot, so much
of the conversation of you know, he's not in the
field for three downs, you know James Cook, the usage
all that this actually could help him age into his
contract better and more gracefully because he doesn't have a
lot of wear and tear from the time at Georgia
and even from the time in the Bills. So by
the time this contract plays out, it might it actually

(11:28):
could age better year and year as he gets better
and continues to improve.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, I mean that's that's they're paying him for what
he can still be right that still there's still a
higher ceiling, there's still potential. And when you talk about
James Cook is a weapon, here is numbers from last
year from scrimmage twenty one touchdowns second overall scrimmageyard's sixteen
hundred and three, that was eighth overall yards per rush
four point nine, that was fifth overall yards per reception

(11:54):
eight point five, which was seventh overall. Now, percentages percentage
of first downs or touch sounds per touch twenty six
point five percent he was gaining a first down or
touchdown those fifth and then explosive play percentage nine point
five percent fifth overall. Obviously, that right there, the explosive
percentage in the efficiency is really why Cook is so

(12:16):
important to the Bills offense this coming year in twenty
twenty five, but also in the future because as we
talked about, you know, the entire offseason, with some of
the skill positions, they have a very nice skill room,
wide receivers, tight ends, very very good weapons, but there
aren't many guys that can be super explosive and be
really the guy, the go to guy when they need
a big play and so especially if we're talking in

(12:38):
the passing game, and so when they can do things
on the ground and get explosive plays on the ground
a La Cook or even some of those you know,
short passes that he turns into, you know, six yard checkdowns,
he turns into twenty one yard games. He's the type
of weapon that you do need, especially in the Bills
offense this coming year and again in the future because
of the way the wide receiver and tight end instructure.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, and some further stats on that. Out of forty
six running backs last year, they had at least one
hundred carries. He was eighth in EPA per carry, seventh
in overall rushing EPA, seventh in yards per carry, sixteenth
in rush yards after contact per carry. Like, he improved
significantly in that area. He's not some bruiser, but he
upped his physical game. And when you pair the physicality

(13:22):
with the juice and the athleticism and the burst and
the home run ability, he started to move towards being
a little bit more of a complete total package type
of runner with the ball in his hands. And you
said it, with what he offers so much of this
offense from a run game, perspective is built through the
offensive line and Chromer and Brady and good design. But man,

(13:42):
there's a really healthy chunk of plays where James Cook
is getting one on one with that unblocked defender by design,
and he's winning. He's beaten it with some strength or
he's beaten it with speed. We've seen him do it
on duo for years, even going back to the Ken
Dorsey years, but then adding what he's able to do
now with the gap scheme stuff they lean into, if
not from a dual perspective, but you know, more from

(14:04):
the tackle poll aspect and still being able to be
that strong zone runner that he's been all the way
back until his time at Georgia. He's really developed and
you know, being talked about that today and we've seen
it on tape and watching him for years and it's
not it's not an accident or it's not you know,
by happenstance that you're seeing him really beat towards the

(14:24):
top of the league. And a lot of efficiency metrics,
advanced metrics and even some raw stats like we have
here from a touchdowns perspective and a scrimmage yards perspective,
and yeah, and he matters so much of this team,
Like like we keep talking about it, for as much
as Josh Allen is Josh Allen, the run is what
starts this offense. That is the foundation, that is the baseline,
and James Cook is the foundation and baseline of that

(14:47):
foundation and baseline.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And what's funny is we expected that when Joe Brady
took over. We expected that in that back half of
that first year, but then when he had the entire
season off season, Joe Brady I'm talking about to create
an offense to really get the ball to Cook and
put it in his hands. You saw what Cook's numbers were,
and here's some of them on the screen because of
Joe Brady. So some of the things they did, some

(15:11):
stuff we talked about when we did the James Cook
evaluation after the season and we brought on Doug Ferrara
from Athlon Sports, were two things putting Josh under center
and James Cook on the dot and then secondly six
offensive linements. So listen to some of these stats that
we talked about in that episode. So thirteen of the
nineteen rushing touchdowns from James Cook were from under center.

(15:33):
Eleven of those thirteen touchdowns from under center were in
the red zone, but only three of those were from
one yard out. Again, the explosive element, the ability to
hit the home run, to get into the end zone
to get six points. He's not a scavenger at that
one yard line and taking those easy looks. He has
to earn it, and he has earned it since he's

(15:55):
gotten in the league, but especially under Joe Brady for
talking under center play.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yea that the under centerpiece is nice. And as soon
as you said dot too, I mean it was like pistol.
You can still do more pistol stuff too. Yeah, he's
just he's progressed with like the heavier package looks, the
red zone type of looks. But then even still not
sacrificing who he is as that guy we initially wanted,
where a guy that you can attack neutral and light

(16:22):
boxes with when this team was more pass happy and
pass oriented. And even in that regard to he still
continued to I thought of this on my head just now,
and I swear I didn't plant. He's still continued to cook.
I hate that. So many people just that joke all
the time now. But amongst fifty three qualifying running backs
last year, James cook versus neutral and light boxes only
twenty fifth in attempts, but he was ninth and EPA

(16:45):
per attempt, sixth in yards per attempt, he was eighth
in yards after contact per attempt, eighteenth and positive play rate.
He continues to find success in those initial areas where okay,
there's light boxes, he can turn up those yards quickly
because he had as that speed and that burst. Similar
case for a neutral perspective, you've got a head on
a halt. But yeah, that added bonus of now you

(17:07):
can mash a little bit more with him when you
go with the six offensive lineman looks or the red
zone or the low red zone looks and him finishing
I'm thinking the Seattle game with a touchdown where he
finishes through like multiple defenders through contact, a helmet pops
off like it's just the again, another added level and
layer that I think that's the biggest takeaway really from

(17:30):
me with him getting this deal is no matter how
you look at his game, and we've looked at the
positives and the neggas for years, like he's just stacked
improvement upon him, Yes, in terms of his skill set,
but also in terms of how what ways he's able
to function and be a plus player in this offense.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, I mean last year, if we're talking six offensive lineman,
he had seventy seven rushes with six offensive linemen. That
was tops in the league. Four hundred and fifty six
yards first in the league. All right, second second best
I'm sorry, five point nine yards per carry with six
offensive linemen on and that was number one in the league.
And then more importantly, this is something that's gonna segue

(18:08):
right into where he's improved four point five one yards
after contact per rush, first overall with six offensive linemen
on the field. So it's weird how ed you talked
about early on in Cook's career he was kind of
that third down type scat back in a spread offense. Yeah,

(18:28):
but as Brady took over, he condensed, He put Josh
under center, he brought more guys into the box and
cooked flourishes.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Like who would have thought that?

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Like, yes, and we're gonna talk about how and why,
but that blows my mind. Four point five one yards
after contact per rush when there's six offensive linemen on
the field, and you talked about there's a lot of duo,
there's a lot of mid zone but coming out of college,
I when I went back to my notes post contact stuff,
worried me. He would get tripped up so easy because

(19:00):
how quick he is, his feet are moving so fast,
he would get tripped up so easy. His contact balance
and physicality is one of those one of the top
things that really has stood out in an areas where
he has developed and progressed.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, the contact balance and the physicality was up there
for me, right behind or equal to like pacing himself
on gap scheme runs. I remember you, me and Kendall
breaking down Georgia tape and talking about like he just
needs to let the play develop a little bit. Yes,
just let the blocking breathe a little bit and then
you can hit the hole. You have the speed, you
don't have to be, you know, right on top and

(19:35):
right on your lineman's heels and not and not letting
things expand so you can get through. He's improved in
both of those areas tremendously. And yeah, the sixth offensive
lineman piece is really awesome because we first build him
as and again, what the those offense was at that time.
It was like, man, the bills are going eleven personnel
and spreading you out. You have to play light boxes.

(19:56):
Now you got this quick, scatback type of guy, and
he still has that, but now it's like okay. Also,
when you go condensed and go with six offensive linemen
and odds are you're still gonna run. He can mash
with those personnel groupings. He can get a little heavier
and push through. And Eric, you have another great graphic
before we get to that. We got two super chats.

(20:17):
I want to bring them both up real quick. Sophia
back in effect, thank you very much for being here, Sophia,
and she says hit the like, let's go buble bills.
Thank you for being here, Sophia. Thank you very much
for the super chat. We appreciate it. And then Patten
keeps crushing it. Gave us a super chat. And also,
I never I love this joke for forever. Pat says,
but with this will this extension be enough to move
Tremaine to edge? Hey, it's a legita question. We are

(20:38):
playing the Bears. He had a great off season.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Fellas, appreciate thank you for being here in the comments
and the super chat and making us uh laugh. That's awesome, right,
So this graphic here, it's yards before contact is a
left column per rush and then yards post contact per rush.
So again, how we kind of use this to add

(21:01):
context to hey, how well the offensive line is playing
before there's contact made. Obviously different concepts take longer and
can get a running back off field.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
There's a lot to it.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's a little muddy, but you can see in twenty
twenty two, yards before contact per rush he was at
two point four two and his yards post contact per
rush were two eight five, so awesome in both columns,
to be honest, twenty twenty three there was a drop
yards before contact per rush one point ninety two and
then yards post contact per rush was two point six eight.
So they're kind of on a downward swing right there.

(21:31):
So then in the big year again, that year where
he's trying to get that contract, yards before contact per
rush was one point sixty nine, the lowest of his career.
His post contact per rush went up jurassically did three
point two four. And again, a lot of that's got
to be a lot of that credit has to be
given to not only Cook in how he's developed and

(21:52):
ability to maintain his contact balance to you know, run
behind his pads better. He ran much harder and high
leveraged situations against some really stack boxes on those duo
runs and mid zone runs. But you got to also
give it to Joe Brady. So I think it was
a great amalgamation last year between scheme and maximizing the player.

(22:13):
I think Joe Brad did a great job, but James
Cook also capitalized and you can see that in these numbers.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, these numbers are a great representation of it, and
a lot of these numbers we've gone through are good
representation of just the progress that he's made, again highlighting
the I think we've maybe not us well maybe yes,
but I think fans in general, we've gotten to this
point where Joe Brady's gotten so much praise, Aaron Kromer
has gotten so much praise, the offensive line, Josh Allen,

(22:39):
and I feel like a lot of the discourse on
Cook this offseason got to a point where it was like,
that's fine, Like jettison him out, drop anybody in there,
and this run game is still going to go because
that's how good it is. That's how good the design is,
the line, the execution, all of it. And these numbers
that were showing you along with the conversation and along
with some film that we'll get to in a bit,
puts into perspective again that notion of yes, he is

(23:02):
a good fit. Yes, this team is built well schematically
and execution wise for the ground game, but he fits
so seamlessly and also is able to take it to
the next level because of how he plays, how he's
grown his skill set, his traits and becoming more of
a complete back with the ball in his hands, like

(23:22):
that that long speed, the home run threat, the ability,
the zone capability, the gap capability, and then also now
being able to play through contact, be able to drop
that shoulder and go through guys, to go through arm
tackles and have it not slow him up, like he
can break an arm tackle now turn on the jets
and just get through and take it to the house.
It's just really been awesome to see that improvement on tape,

(23:45):
but also be reflected in a multitude of metrics like
we've shown here right.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
So his vision it's something that I know I was
not impressed with his vision in college, and whether it
was zone or gap, there were some red flags early on.
But but you also talked about the pacing a running
back on certain concepts has a certain speed or rhythm,
you know, especially in these zone runs, but also they

(24:09):
have a certain landmark. Hey, I got to attack the
outside shoulder of the guard or tackle, and so they
have to understand the rhythm it takes to Okay, I
have that landmark, but I have to also give the
offensive line time to get to their blocks. But then,
like you said, sometimes it's on the running back to
kind of set up blocks. So he knows on this

(24:30):
zone run that the offensive lineman in front of him
on this mid zone run are working first level the
second level, So take care of the d tackle and
then go in and get fifty one on this play.
Look at how he changes his pace, uses his eyes
right there kind of to get that linebacker number fifty
one to commit to the interior gap so that he
can just bounce off right there into that sea gap

(24:52):
for a really nice run. That is stuff you didn't
see a lot of, or at least consistently in James
Cook's film in college.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, that's a great call. And you can see him
as he's you know, faking that move inside. He's staring
right at fifty one like he's staring through McGovern two.
Fifty one, and as soon as fifty one commits to
that gap, it is an instantaneous he's already moved on
and he's passed. And then here's the piece, like, look

(25:20):
how he goes through right. So it's not only did
he set that up and he improved in the vision
and pacing aspect. Look at this legit defensive lineman just
almost melt off of him, like early James Cook with
the Bills. Even if he broke that tackle, it would
have slowed him down a little bit. It would have
put a hitch in his giddy up a little bit.
Not here like him being able to move through arm tackles,

(25:40):
not just from dbs and you know safeties at times,
but through linebackers, an actual defensive lineman, and him being
able to do that and not sacrifice speed. And these
are the ones too, that I think matters so much
that get lost in the touchdown conversation, like this isn't
this isn't necessarily blocked for success, Like he makes the

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difference he plays above this and this is this is
to the short side. Yes, Tyrrel dots a bill legend.
This is to the short side. This is to the
boundary there's not an ample amount of space. These aren't
college hashes, and this isn't from the far side where okay,
he can really get that angle and go. This is
him beating three defenders in a short box of space

(26:20):
to the corner and playing above the scheme here on
this mid zone run.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
An unblocked defender and then an edge setter that doesn't
have the speed to match Cook to get to the
corner and his his cornering. And we talked about in
this game too when he scored on that short touchdown.
He has the ability to make these not even cuts.
He corners and doesn't lose speed. But it's so much

(26:44):
quicker and faster then obviously jump cutting or something like that.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, we compared it to like like driving a car
and like speeding through the apex of the turn of
the car.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, and he did that in that game against the Seahawks,
And it's just so much quicker than you know, a
defender can stop and go, you know, whether he like
you saw Donson come downhill, but then he has to
go now, he has to accelerate to get outside. Cook
is gonna win that every single time when you talk
about that. But then the other thing that we don't
talk about enough is his footwork in nasty weather, which

(27:17):
you know is important in the playoffs. And this is
something we talked about with Leshaw McCoy. It's something that
we talk about with Cook all the time. His ability
to make cuts to excel and decelerate in on these
runs is really what sets him apart then a lot
of running backs if we're talking inclement weather like you

(27:37):
see in Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, his ability to always, always essentially have his feet
under him, no matter like the traction or the turf.
Like he's got a good sense of you know, we
talked about contact balance, but he's just got a good
sense of balance in general. Like look at this, like
there's not a lot of slipping here. There's he's making.
He set these up like this whole run up with
some pacing initially out of the backfield, a little hop

(28:00):
and then there, but it's all under control. He gets
through and then watch him just turn on the jets
and there's no slippage. There's no like kind of you know,
twisting an ankle or burning a wheel or a tirel
or blowing out a tire a little bit. Yes, and
then when he kicks it into gear. He's gone shot
to malakmstaff number six there. So I still have a
draft crush on him, even though he's been in the

(28:20):
league already. You just see that instantaneous change within the pacing,
within the movement here in the snow when it's all
choppy and beat up, but even if it's in the rain,
like he's just he's always got that good sense of
keeping his feet and his hips like right where they
need to be in order to have his footing under him.
And then it's not even like okay, well he's moving slower,
so he's running slower. He just opens it up, it

(28:42):
explodes out.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, It's pretty remarkable how he's always got his center
a gravity, yeah, and able to keep his you know,
his shoulders over his knees and toes and like this
one right here, like there's.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Guys sliding all over and he's just he's just still smooth.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Like it's crazy, man.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
This is the type of stuff that even coming out
of college, Brandon being in this regime probably did even
realize this about him, you know what I mean, when
it comes to playing in snowy conditions, and that field
was awful, you can see that feel was terrible, and
he was still able to keep his footing to make
some big runs in this game. And that again, I
just don't think that gets talked about enough when you're

(29:23):
trying to build a team to play in Buffalo in December, January, February, Like,
this is the type of conditions that you're gonna play in,
especially if you can get some home field games.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
And James Cook, he did it flawlessly.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Whether it was Josh under center, he's on the dot,
whether it's six offensive linemen as you saw there, whether
it's duo, whether it's mid zone.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
He earned.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
He earned that deal that he got.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
He earned it, and I think that we've shown that
how Joe Brady and this team has maximized his skill set.
But as we've had, you know, talk and comments in
the chat room, there's still meat on the bone he
can be if he can get some more snaps in

(30:10):
those high leveraged situations and not just big games, but
third downs and fourth downs. Again, he can still be better.
There's still some meat on that bone for James Good.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, and that's the really kind of interesting or scary
thing if you're an opponent, like what he can still become.
I don't think he's hit his ceiling. He's still just
even just the jump and he made from twenty three
to twenty four last year. I don't think it's crazy
to think that he'll improve again from twenty twenty four
into twenty twenty five this year. And whether that means,
you know, more stuff in pass protection, or it means

(30:43):
him as like a pass catching back out of the backfield,
or just solidifying more of those complete pieces as a runner,
like there is some meat on the bone like you mentioned,
and the uses that you can get out of him
even if he doesn't improve as a blocker, which I
know you know I mentioned that because a lot of
it's on the in front of the mind of a
lot of folks. But his scheme diversity from a concept standpoint,

(31:05):
like it just matters a lot. The bills have, you know,
the core concepts that we know they like to lean into,
but he's become pretty adept at a variety of concepts
from a gap and zone standpoint, and that matters a
lot when you've got a really good old line coach,
a really good old line like you said it, Brady,
And I think the system and chromer they know how
to maximize Cook. And then I also think Cook's skill sets,

(31:29):
skill set and traits allow him to maximize everything out
of the offense. The offense can block something for five,
and he can get you fifteen or forty five out
of that. It's not just like, oh, we blocked it
for five and he got six. We blocked it for five,
he took it to the house. We blocked it for three,
he took it for fourteen. Like just that ability and
the way those things play hand in hand, the scheme

(31:51):
being able to pick up Cook, but Cook being able
to pick.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Up the scheme very good. Balancing, yeah, very nice.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
And then you have the MVP at quarterbacks. Yeah, like
what you do with your defense.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
We appreciate everyone joining us live here.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I can already tell you this is gonna be a
longer episode because we still got to talk about hard knocks,
and we still got to get through a few of
the game clips from the Bills in Giants preseason game.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
So let's move on.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
We appreciate everyone talking about Cook.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's been an awesome chat so far, especially considering we're
right at the end of the workday. So man, let's
transition to hard Knocks. I'm sure for Bills fans it's
been great. There's not a lot of drama, you know,
some very good character studies type stuff. But for non
Bills fans, it's got to be pretty boring because there's
not much drama and not many true position battles because

(32:40):
this roster is so stacked deep and kind of ironed
out except for a couple of things here and there.
So for non Bills fans, it's got to be kind
of boring.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, you know, I was talking about this last night
with a bloody of mine, like just that idea of
if you were My exact words are, like, if you're
a non Bills fan, you probably hate the season of
Hard Knocks because it's just so we talked about a
bit last week. I thought the first episode was very
Bill's fan friendly, but also could be it's the first episode,
it's the baseline, let's set the table and go from there.

(33:10):
I expected, for lack of a better word, I expected
there to be some more fireworks in episode two great,
and there were not.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
They kind of glossed over the whole drama of cooking
I really did like and that got glossed over.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
And I mean one of like the major storylines. Episode
two was just kJ Hamler and his scooter. Yeah, like
that's the type of trend that we're on with hard.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
How talented are the producers where they kind of let
off obviously Buffalo Joe, but the James Cook stuff and
the holding and then just immediately transitioned in beautifully transitioned
to Ray Davis.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, and like multiple things.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, how he's cooking, you know, he's he's kicking and
doing all that, and how he's told the staff and
it was kind of lighthearted and it just he was
kind of like my notes going into this before they
re signed Cook was they were kind of making Ray
Davis to be the golden boy almost like hey, no,
you know, you know Cook's holding in.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
We have a couple of really good backs behind him,
especially Ray Davis.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
He's a kicker as well.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
And like they they left out kind of the Foster
Home stuff, but it was kind of shocking how quickly
they glossed over the James Cook stuff. But again, when
the first episode came out, I think it was Ryan
Telbot that tweeted that when that show came out that
Tuesday night at nine, they didn't finish the final cut
until like three or four in the afternoon. So maybe

(34:36):
they had an idea that the Cook deal was on
the horizon.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's fair, I that is very fair.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
I really thought maybe I'm, I'm, it's the stretch, but
it's just fir how.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's a stretch. No, that you're one hundred percent right,
because I like, in my head, I was convinced we'd
get the hard Knocks intro for episode two and then
the opening scene would be him riding the exercise bike,
just sitting and then and the voiceover being like, you
want all of your players going in training camp. But
for Buffalo Bill starting running back James, Like, I just

(35:08):
expected that and said it was like, no, here's Buffalo Joe,
Joe Andrees and oh this is so nice. Here's James Cook.
He's holding in Hey, how about that Ray Davis.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
But the meetings, he's at the meetings.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Though he's still at the meetings, we're showing him. And
I was like, oh, okay, I just expected. Yeah, I
expected more and or from that. And I think that's
part two of why it's been a bit drier this
season for like non Bills fans, because if you're a
non Bills fan, you probably don't really care about Joey Andreeson.
You don't even I don't think a lot of Bills

(35:40):
fans care about kJ Hamler to a degree, and like
that's what they've been leaning into. I'm sure a lot
of Bills fans and especially national fans were more of Man,
I wonder what they're gonna show for Cook in this episode,
Oh man, Like what are we gonna hear? What are
we gonna see?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Gonna be?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
And it works? Yeah, And instead it was more fluw
than substance. But again, that's what we'll see if it
changes a little bit, you know, as we get more
in depth into the preseason and now they've left Fisher
and or back in Buffalo, we'll see And you know,
like we alluded to and mentioned, the opening segment of
Hard Knocks featured Buffalo Joe, mister Joe Andreson and a

(36:18):
good chunk really past that. They showed you know him
with being being repped in Lancaster. They showed him out
the dinner or lunch with his family. They showed his
girlfriend and his mom in the stands during the preseason game.
He was getting a lot of burn in this episode,
So good for him as he continues this journey and
continues to try and improve as a player here and
make a statement and claim for the roster, especially with

(36:40):
Balen Specter no longer being on the team.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
It was kind of weird, Like it was awesome story
about Buffalo Joe, but it was kind of weird some
of the clips and stuff that they did put forward on,
you know, for him. And so I want to show
a couple of the couple of seconds of that clip
and how they kind of portrayed him on the field,
not necessarily off the field, and maybe why they're doing
because it's something I talked about a bunch of the
last couple of weeks, is that Buffalo Joe's in an

(37:04):
instinctual player. He can make plays in and around the
line of scrimmage. He's gonna make some tackle for losses.
We've seen it in every game he's been in. But
there are some areas and needs to improve, and that's
in coverage understandably, you know, and that spatial awareness and
zone coverage and guys tend to get behind them. And
so when they showed those clips, I was not shocked
because they are painting the picture properly about where he

(37:26):
needs to improve. And you haven't heard Brandon Bean talk
about how when he dropped inner side, you got to
have that right, Yeah, drops that, like you could feel
that disappointment. But he from what I've seen a Buffalo Joe,
I think he's doing great.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
I think he is.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
He cemented his spot as linebacker two at Mike behind
Torrel Bernard. But I want to show this clip and
then some film from the game on really kind of
bridging the gap between what you're seeing on HBO's Hard
Knocks but also in the game film.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
So listening but your self composition, Joe, come on, Joe,
come on.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
We gotta be better than this.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
So I'll help him.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I'm I'm laughing a hit, Bob, just really kind of
laughing that. Like the HBO team was like, no, let's
not talk about James Cook, let's just rip on this
or second year linebacker from Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
So there was two clips that HBO had recorded and
it was basically guys getting in behind Joe again when
he's in coverage and that and again that's something that
you're gonna see if you pop on the film. And
so I was like, you know, this is something we
got to talk about and I'm gonna bring up huddle
real quick and show you guys a couple of plays

(38:47):
from the game that you're seeing very similar things. So
you see him middle of the screen here and bring
it up there. It is all right, So middle of
the screen here. Here's one of the completions over the
middle against the Bill's defense with Andresen, and you see.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Him right there.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
He kind of gets lost. You got this crosser coming
across the middle. He kind of gets lost, right and
he should obviously be roboting. We call it roboting. Okay,
you're processing. Run the pass here he comes up, boom,
it's a pass. Now he's got to find that threat
coming through his own and you see kind of gets
lost and doesn't really understand the passing concept behind him. Luckily,

(39:22):
Dorian Strong great communication here is beautiful. One of his
better plays calls that slice that cut. So now you
have cam Lewis come from the post safety position kind
of covering Andreasen's ass here, taking away this crossing route,
and then Dorian Strong's replacing the post safety cam Lewis.
So just one example aunt of Andreasen kind of getting

(39:43):
lost in coverage. We also saw it later in the
game Anthony where they completed a pass in behind him
Jackson Dart did where they're just dropping in the cover
three and again he doesn't sense this guy coming in
behind him, and you want him to kind of feel
and sense that with the quarterback's eyes kind of taking
him there. He doesn't, and they complete the pass right

(40:04):
near the hash And this is you.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Know, he's improved versus last year, but these are similar
call outs we had last year in the preseason for him,
especially when he set the world on fire in that
game against the Steelers. You would like to see him
operate better in this space. I don't want to get
too far off topic with it, but that execution between
cam Lewis and Dorian Strong, I can't comment enough on
how much I love that Benford and Hamlin had similar

(40:26):
execution earlier in the game, Like that's just so beautiful
on the back end there, But yeah, you would like
to see and you even see on that one where
he needs to be roboting, like he looks through that
number one receiver coming from the bottom to look back
to the other side, like you can tell he's really
just kind of you can see him trying to process
everything and figure out what's happening, and it ends up

(40:48):
with him essentially kind of covering nothing in no man's land.
And then on the second one, Yeah, you hit the
nail on the head. I don't have too much to add.
You want him to feel that in breaker, or at
least get eye to it, especially with Dart, like you said,
leading you there with his eyes a little bit. And
it's it's a little frustrating because again but understandable, like

(41:10):
you said, because he has such great movement and instincts
around the line of scrimmage and getting forward and playing
the run. And I'd almost like to like turn down
those sliders just a little bit, to just turn up
some of the coverage ones, because if he can start
to improve and become averaged even a bit above in
coverage with what he is going forward, he can become

(41:31):
a legitimate player in the NFL, because he's really strong
and good around the box. But you see those coverage
instincts or that execution lacking a bit, especially out in space,
and you know, I don't know if it's a confidence
thing or it's purely a technique thing, but it was
very interesting to see that happen in practice. And then

(41:52):
knowing it was readily available in that game against the
Giants and being able to tie it together.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, it's something he's gonna continuously work.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
And uh, you know, zone is zone is not an
easy thing when you're talking about moving your body, but
then trusting your eyes and where your eyes should be
and reading those keys.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Especially with the linebacker play we've seen here, Like as
much as people hated Tremaine Edmonds, he was really good
at robotting and finding those guys. Terrell Bernard excels at that.
So also maybe that helps andresen a little bit too,
being able to play behind a guy like that, even
though the bar is set very high.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, and so one other thing I wanted to talk
about from Hard Knocks before and move on to the
Giants and Bill's recap Allen and his receivers. We talked
about how important that is, that rapport is and building
that trust in the last episode. It was it's been
nice to hear some of the conversations that Alan has
with his receivers, the communication, the details such as like hey,

(42:48):
where he needs Keon Coleman to be on this this
route where the wide receivers, Like the ball dropped in
on fade routes as we talked about last week, and
there was one clip here from Hard Knocks that really
really struck home and kind of kind of had a
flashback because of it. So I'll play this real quick.
This is at the twenty four minute mark of Hard Knocks,
again Alan communicating what he needs from his receivers.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Josh Allen is making sure his teammates have the details down,
more speed, more vertical, really tell that fade.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Wow, right there, you gotta be there for me, all right,
you go inside her outside, You got outside, Gotta go outside.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Gotta go outside, Anthony, you gotta go outside. And people
are probably like, why is that a big deal? Yeah, right,
it's a big deal because if you guys remember the
Bengals playoff game with the Bills years ago, when Diggs
went off on Josh, it was it was a thing
that they had worked on all week where Alan wanted

(43:58):
Digs to release out and Diggs he was the type
of guy I hate. He would freestyle, right, he would
freestyle and take the best release possible against what dv
he was up against and just tell Josh, I'll get
to where you need me to be by that time. Well,
Josh again. Now there's no Digs in the room anymore.
He's running the show. Well, in that game against the Bengals,

(44:20):
Digs didn't release outside like Josh told Shavers, and it
took Digs right out of the play as an option
on fourth down. And that's honestly, the was the boiling
point and what boiled over where Diggs was gonna flip
out on the sideline on Josh.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah, that's which is great.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yes, it's something as simple as that, you know, because
they had worked on it a certain way during the week,
and then when the game, you know, was on, you
saw this. Josh wanted Digs all week to release outside. Well,
because of the leverage of the dB on this play
against the Bengals, Digs released inside. And that's big because
that corner is now funneling inside. Look at the safety's doing.

(45:01):
If Diggs could have somehow gotten outside, there might have
been a play to be had on fourth down here. Unfortunately,
Josh had happy feet. He tries to extending to play
and it goes in complete on fourth down.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, and you see the you can see Alan in
his movements there. Man, I hate this game. Well, Lou
had a rumo did some awesome stuff, So just schematically
was fun as Bill Fan was terrible. You can see
the impact that it has on Alan when he looks
to the bottom of the screen like everything is And
it's not just purely because it digs, but it changes
what his expectation was and what he had kind of

(45:33):
determined pre snap. And yeah, just a highlight of multiple
things that went wrong in this game. But you hit
it now. There is no digs in that room. Josh
is very much the alpha and the Omega in that huddle,
and especially for like a lot of these receivers, actually

(45:54):
every single weapon there the only person that I think
could challenge Josh. And anyway, on the offense, we'll probably
be like Dion Dawkins. But everyone else, if Josh tells
you to jump, you're jumping. And for these receivers, especially
a guy like Shavers, but really anybody, if he tells
you like, hey, I want you to release outside on this,
you're releasing outside on that. There is no like you know,
maybe Palmer might get to a spot where he can

(46:16):
be well, I like to run it like this, and
now I might be like okay, and no, maybe he's
got some reports from other guys. But yeah, there is
no If josh wants him to drill it this way,
they're gonna drill it that way. If his expectation is
for you to do a, you need to do a.
And yeah, it was really interesting seeing that and knowing
what we knew from that and connecting those dots. Yeah,

(46:36):
it's man, It's.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Something we talked about when it happened, because again, this
is yeah, we broke that lot. I had sources on that.
This is not from some article, and this is again
that was just a boiling point. That's where everything just unloaded.
It was not the only reason that there was that
friction on the sideline, but that was the play that
kind of sent Digs over the edge there and started
working to the point where he's yelling, Joshua, your excuse now,

(47:00):
right and that and that's kind of where things started
to fall apart.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I just remember him on the side like what is
your excuse?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Now?

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Is your excuse now?

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
So I hate to bring back bad memories, but when
when he told Shavers that, it just it was like
PTSD right, especially.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
With the way he like Allen was like outside right,
like it was just I don't know, it's just like,
I don't know if we're making if we always make
it too much of it by had or we are.
But I was definitely like like the way he just
I don't know, it's like he he also remembered that
and he also do that. Yeah, it's just funny.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
So overall, hard knocks, not much drama, very boring for
non Bills fans. Not a lot of hard knocks, great
stuff for US Bills fans, especially getting to know a
lot of the Mary Kit main characters. Excuse me, especially
McDermott too. You got to hear a little about it. McDermott,
his background and you know why he's always always covered

(47:55):
up with that.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
The biggest buzzy was funny man completely like such a jerk.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
I completely forgot about that. I made like I think
my first day of camp, I called out like it's
always easy to spotch Sean mcdermottcause he has the giant
bucket hat, and I made a joke like I feel
like his hack gets bigger every year. And I completely
forgot about the skin cancer stuff and him wearing the
long sleeves and the hat and it was cool actually
see like his regiment and how on top of it

(48:22):
he is and the awareness for it, and yeah, I
felt like such a jerk seeing that. Oh my god,
that's why he does it. He even like him laying
out like wearing the light jacket so it covers this
and does this and the hat with this, and I
was just like I just sunk my head, like in
Shame on the Couch. That's like I saw that.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, it's been cool to get to know him a
little more. Obviously, the GM and some of the characters
that are on the team. It's been fun again for
a Bills fan.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
So we gotta move forward.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
We're way behind here already forty eight minutes and we
didn't eve get to the film yet. We got about
fifteen plays to break down. I thought the Bill started
off shay in the Giants preseason game, a loss to
the Giants thirty five to twenty four. But it felt
like after like the first drive of shakiness, the Bills
kind of settled in kind of change your philosophy and
were like, you know what, Let's go heavy, Let's get

(49:14):
Gilliam out there, Let's run some twenty one, Let's run
some twelve with Gilliam as the second tight end and
let's go to the ground game to start. Let's get
these running backs going. And this was one of the
first plays that they ran where they started to get
on track. It's a countertray with Johnson, Ty Johnson, and
you see the patients from Johnson on that play, the

(49:34):
stiff arm on that play. You see great blocking from
the rookie tight end Hawes right here. Look at the placement,
the leverage, the drive to create that displacement to essentially
shrink that edge down inside and wash that guy inside
as the backside guard pulls and torrents. And then just
the patients by Johnson. This is a non traditional concept.

(49:56):
The Bills don't run this a lot. It's kind of
like a third or fourth concept that they run when
it comes to their run game, especially if you're talking Johnson.
You know Ty Johnson last year, he only ran eleven
gap runs last year in twenty twenty four, So kind
of non traditional. But this, this is the portion of
the game. I thought the Bills offense kind of settled
in against the Giants.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, this is not even probably this was my favorite
drive of the game. This one ends with the touchdown
for Trubisky and crew on the leak to Knox. But
this whole drive really was twenty one personnel play action,
counter some gap or not some gaps, some power. Well
that technically that's right, but yeah, counter empower, both concepts

(50:35):
like you said that you know, aren't really traditional for them,
and then also doing it out of twenty one personnel,
which is not a form like a personnel grouping. They
really heavily lean into. Here's a nice rep of power there.
You see Gilliam ready to run through the edge, so
he just swims out. It makes things easier for Ty Johnson.
I love seeing this. It was one of the wrinkles

(50:56):
I thought we could see this year, just like because
where else can and they really go offensively and it
was like, oh, maybe leaning into some more traditional concepts
that are non traditional to them, maybe even more pistol,
we'll see. I love this grouping though. Anytime they can
get Gilliam and Hawes on the field together, it just
seems to work. They are just mashers and people movers

(51:17):
at the point of contact on the back side. I
really love that drive. I loved the execution. It got
me seriously excited for what we could see this coming
piece in the regular season.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
And I know you're you're excited about this play because
it's a nice little wrinkle that Joe Brady added here.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
So this is again it's supposed to be. It's a
play action pass.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
And again I think on top of the run game
getting going, like you said, getting points on the board,
play action was huge in this game. Mike White play
He ran play action twenty eight point six percent of
his snaps. Trubisky and Bouschelle thirty point eight percent. Yes,
those are numbers we like. You can even go a
little higher, and we saw in this game.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
I wouldna say real quick to just watch those numbers
and fresh and brain. The Bills play action rate last
year twenty seventh in the league eighteen percent. So the
fact that White was at twenty eight point six Trubisky
and Bruschell at thirty point eight significant percentage point increase
versus what they were last year.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
In great reference because especially in this game, the Giants
have a fast defense, a very good pass rush, and
we saw that early on. We create trouble for all
the quarterbacks. So going to the heavy sets, this is
one with Gilliam in there and Dawson Knox, so it's
you know, more of a quasi tight end look for
Gallium on this play right, but it's more of a

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heavy look. And so you get that five man defensive
line surface, you get them in base defense, and you
run play action that slows down that pass rush. You
got a process run the pass allows the offensive line
to get on it. So watch Gallium here as he
runs that split zone track across the formation. They're making
it look like split zone and then he says, you
know what, normally what he's doing, he's helping Dawson Knox here.

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He's protecting this inside gap as a blocker so they
can push the ball downfield right. Well, on this one,
now he incorporated this or what looks like he incorporated
because they ran it again later.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
If Dave isn't yeah, if Knox and that Titan is
all covered and good to go and blocking up, just fine,
he's able to release. And so you get everyone vacating
down the field on this play action shot. And now
Gilliam just you know, gets a check down and he
gets a first down. Very nice play design on this
play action play.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I absolutely loved it. I couldn't tell on the game
copy even on the tape, Like the way it looked.
I was like, Okay, is Gilliam making this call? Is
it by design? But I you know, like you said,
it looks like it's by design. I love it. It's
just such a nice wrinkle and additive and the timing
of all of it, you know, like you mentioned, right
as Gilliam is crossing Trubisky's face, those lining that second

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level is just vacated. You can see fifty three immediately
turn and get on his horse to find Palmer. He's gone.
And also important too, is Gilliam is coming out. It's
right at the top of Trubisky's drop. Like the sequencing
the time is so well done. And you can even
see Trubisky's eyes, like as he goes through everything, you
can see him sit and step, like his eyes immediately

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get to killing him. He sees the vacated space dumps
it down. I really really loved that design. They ran
it later, like you mentioned with Davidson, Yeah, I just more, man.
I mean this is also kind of speaking to us,
so maybe we're biased, but like we want more more
Regie Gillium, Like it's just he's good and effective and
being able to tie that in in this game with

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and again it's preseason, but if you've got a front
that's really getting after you, then Giants have a crazy
good front all of a sudden, you know what, Okay,
let's go heavy, let's get them in base, let's mash
the ball. But also we can work in these little
wrinkles from a play action perspective based off the run
and start to cause some problems. This one oh beautiful
as well.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
So you saw kind of those gap runs on that
last you know run the runs by Johnson. So here's
the sequence. Here's the stack of the play, and you
see Trubisy out of the pop on a little naked
boot leg. And more importantly, watch Josh Palmer to the
bottles screen and how that he used a little heasy released,
little stutter release to cause that DB's feet right here

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to kind of just stop is brief create that doubt, Hey,
what route is he gonna run? Creates that doubt, and
then that just helps him because Deante Banks is a
fast player. He's a quick corner, very good man corner
that creates just enough doubt where now you're locking in
separation and you're getting Trubisky on the run. He's able
to hit Palmer on that play Haridis from the end

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zone angle again, play action. It was huge in this game.
It's something we want to see from the Bills offense.
Very good stacking of plays here when you're talking the
run play with the compliment in the past game, and
that's how you're able to pick up the first down.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
I don't have too much to add I just love this.
I love running the ball and then building play action
concepts off of the exact run look and trying to
put that defense in hell like look at the second
level for the Giants get sucked in to that run
action because it looks just like counter that they saw earlier.
Fifty three is done, but then Knox is releasing, so

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forty nine is trying to get back in coverage, but
he honors Knox oodles of space for Palmer, who, like
you said, real pretty with that heavy or that stutter
release there to kind of create that doubt. He's so
good at creating deception and doubt in defenders minds. I
love this like this is and again this speaks to
my heart. This is the offense. I want run the football,

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play action, create those intermediate areas of opening and create
some chunk plays like that's really nice, that's good football.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
That's again we want play action.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
They need to do a better job attack in the
intermediate area that ten to nineteen yard range. Palmer is
going to help them in that way, and you see
a play just like that from him. You can see
why and how he's going to be able to do that.
So here is that split zone. Look again later in
the game. Nice strike from White to Wilkerson on the
in round. This is a Yankee concept. You have a

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dig with a post and it just beautiful. But it's
better from the end zone angles. So watch the split zone.
You're seeing the tight end and offline tight end come
across the formation there. It is right there, and you
see him kind of leak out, but more importantly, he
leaks out because our man haus at tight end does
one hell of a job of handling this edge rusher

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one on one with great hand placement. You see him straining,
You see him working, refitting the hands right there, locking
that pocket down.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Really nice rhythm and cadence here.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
And then you see White zip it in there in
that intermediate area over the middle of the field to
Wilkerson for the first game first.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Down Yeah, yeah, nice ball from White, Him and Tubisky
both through the ball well in this game. I was
pleasantly surprised with what they did. Shout out to Wilkerson
on this play. I'm a big fan of a Yankee
concept in general. And then yeah, we get the little
action from lot too there in the back. But like
you said, the big one for me was Hauls on
this one. That's a legit defensive lineman in Ledbetter three

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hundred pounds and Hawes is blocking him one on one
in pass pro that you know, that's part of the
benefit of what we talked about the six offensive lineman
stuff last year, that not only do you get an
extra lineman on the field you can mash more in
the run, but if you go play action off of it,
now you've got big on big with an actual offensive

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lineman against an edge player instead of having what is
traditionally a tight end against an edge because that's usually
advantage defense and not there like Hawes being able to
hold his own and stall him out and just straight
up one on one pocket protect and not get driven
back or compromise. Man. I know he dropped that one

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ball in the flat and that sucks, but man, He
is just fun as hell to watch as a blocker
in a multitude of fashions.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Another set of guys that I thought were fun to watch,
we're the young interior defensive lineman Dean Walker, TJ. Sanders,
I thought as that third wave. So the first wave
an interior defensive liignment, were Carter and Oliver, and then
it was Ogan Joby and Carter and then Walker and Sanders.
And it was pretty clear that the third wave, the

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rookie interior defensivelignment, probably should have been bumped up on
the depth chart. They were just playing at a different speed.
So we're gonna get to some of their film here.
Let me ask ant, how soon are these guys gonna
play in the Bill's scheme on Sundays?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Man like they are?

Speaker 3 (59:28):
They gonna have a big roll, you think.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Man, it's a fair question. And especially with the wild
cards above them, you know, quote unquote above them, you've
got Ogen Joby who suspended, so that gives them each
an opportunity to get bumped up. And then Carter continues
to underwhelm and just kind of be whatever. I'm still
kind of the jury is still out on Dion Walker
for me, although this rep is awesome. The quickness and

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the penetration and then the length and those giant pause
compromising to throw there and being able to bat it down.
I'm more confident and comfortable in TJ. Sanders. I'm still
kind of waiting a little bit out on Walker, but
Walker around some nice flashes in this game. Sanders had
arguably the best rep of anyone on the bills, you know,
which we'll get to in a bit, but I think

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they both have a chance to make some noise considering
Okunjobi's got the suspension and Carter is again kind of
not really doing anything to lock down ownership of a
spot and an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Right, quickness, agility, length were all on display for Walker
and nven Sanders to an extent. I'd like to see
Walker retrace down the line of scrimmage on some of
the runs when he is kind of reached or even
you know, kind of pinned or down blocked.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
But this one was good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Again, He's in the a gap just outside shoulder of
the center between the center and guard, and you see
him beat the hands of the right guard and use
his length to go, you know, get his hands on
the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
So that was really really big.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Watch this one. He's kind of in that wide alignment.
This is where he could be scary. This is where
in twenty twenty three he did a lot of his
work right off, whether it's a four a four eyes,
he was more on the edge, more of an edge
presence than a true nose tackle. And this is the
type of play. You see that little stutter, but then
watch as he he right there that you see the club,

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look at the violence in it. Just now watch the guard.
Don't even watch Walker, watch the guard's balance. We see
how we open that door. You can see him stumbling
back and so he gets the edge and he just
misses right at the at the delivery. So again winning quickly,
violent hands attacking. You know, having a big guy like

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that that can attack and you'll get on the doorstep
of the quarterback. That's gonna be fun to see in
these type of situations where it's an obvious pass ress situation,
you have multiple guys up near line of scrimmage and
you can get a one on one. That's when I
think Walker is going to do his best work. And
you see it on this play, even though he doesn't
technically get home.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yeah, I second that notion completely. Like I A lot
of my questions around him will be the consistency piece
and what he can bring down in and down out
as a rusher, But it's more so from the run
defense standpoint, Yeah, not getting washed out pad level one
thousand percent, Like can he live what downs? Can he
consistently live on? But we're talking about you know, hey,
he's fresh and we're getting him in a known passing situation.

(01:02:18):
I will I'll take it. Yeah, watch out you can. Man.
Sixty three was also the dude who got got on
the TJ. Sanders Rep. So he had a bit of
a rough day. But yeah, you could I just keep
laughing because that club, like that paw man, you could
see sixty three like almost just be like Jesus, like
and this is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Third down, Anthony, this is third down. And again that
pressure forced in completion. And yet he did struggle. Sixty
three struggle.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
I won't we will not name him. He did struggle.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yeah, had a bit, he had a bit of a struggle.
But this is also where like Walker, this is where
he's built to succeed, Like that length, that size, like
the hands, the arms, and then the quickness for the
size he is a pend like he's the Bill's mold.
He is a penetrator, he's an up guy. He's got
like the length and the compression piece, but that little

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stutter in the quickness. And again if he's fresh, like
if you're rolling him with fifteen snaps a game and
they're coming on like these high leverage downs, he can
make an impact if he's able to just go in
there and juice up and go against guys. And yeah,
you highlighted like the the lateral movement. They're like setting
up inside and then being able to quickly transition back

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right as the guard kind of like sits and is
trying to settle. In the bang you hit him, you
create that you know, soft edge because you hit him
with a buckshot with your hand and are able to
get through that shoulder.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Like yeah, no, he's uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
I think he had two pressures in that game, or
two really good rushes out of I think eleven, which
got him a nice ninety two point eight pass rush
grade by Pele.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Come we're not doing great. Come on, I'm not. I
refuse to even stoke that fire or on or.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
That I had to that that that little video I
posted got like seventy thousand views. I had to, all right,
So let's move on to TJ. Sanders, obviously a guy
that we fell in love with in the draft process.
Starting the run game, there's a little run stunt, a
little exchange here. You see him on the left shoulder,
outside shoulder of the left guard, and you see him
with that quickness get inside into that a gap and

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you see him draw essentially that double team from the
center and guard, which allows the Bills defender to Corey
Couch really to stay free and unblocked here when really
the Giants are running duo. So these two guys are
actually gonna be working back to Couch, but because of
Sanders murking everything at the line of scrimmage, that keeps

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Couch clean and then he's there to make the tackle.
So very nice run play and physicality at the line
of scrimmage by TJ.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Sanders.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Yeah, that's it was nice to see him have this
kind of juice against the run like he does as
a rusher, and he gets right into that a gap,
MUCKs it up, and then Solomon crashes down, gets pushed
in and everything just is gummed up and dead on
that side.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
You're getting penetration from I think JaMarcus Ingram on that blitz.
The running back is forced to bounce. And I like
this play from I'm biased. I like to Corey Couch
he's perfect in these areas. He could do this in Miami.
Still have questions for him in space and from an
athleticism standpoint and coverage. But he's essentially playing like a
box linebacker here, like as the will and he's just
sitting there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
This is yeah, this would be Terran right one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
And also I know Cam was playing safety. I thought
it was interesting that to Corey Couch was next man
up at Nickel as soon as Terran went out and
then played a significant mount stants. But yeah, he plays
this slow, played and great, just sitting there waiting as
soon as the running back to Claire's he know he
takes care of it. But it's all started up front
with the action from Sanders, followed up by the action

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from Javon Solomon and really gumming up the hell out
of everything there. Yeah, really good, I thought, And that's
what we want to see, right for guys who yes,
and this is what we talked about, right, if you're
gonna have guys that are smaller and more penetrative and upfield,
you can still stop to run that way. You just
do it with pad level and juice and violence, and
that can still happen. Doesn't mean you won't get knocked
off the ball here and there, but you can still

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find a way to gum it up through that juice
and penetration and quickness off the ball, which is what
is built on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Yeah, you saw that from Sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Here's a wide alignment very similar to what you saw
from Walker, same guard in there, number sixty three. That
guard has to kick slide out wide to him, and
you see Sanders use the double handed swipe, scissors whatever
you want to call it. You see him cut back
inside and again that acceleration boom plants that left foot.
Then the hand usage, the harmony between the feet and

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the hands, changing direction, attacking outside shower first, cutting back
across the face of that guy, gets a hit on
the quarterback very smartly gets a piece of the quarterback,
doesn't run all the way through him or try to
drop on top of him, gets a piece of the quarterback. Unfortunately,
quarterback Dart did a great job of dropping in there
for a touchdown. But quick, easy win by Sanders, and

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that's exactly what the Bills need from the young roape.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah, this was my favorite defensive rep of anyone on
on Say on Sunday, I'm already tuned into like, actually,
I shouldn't even say something because the Bill's planned tons
of primetime days now, Monday's Thursdays, all that kind of stuff.
But yeah, this was beautiful. The quickness on it. I
timed it when I was watching it. Dark gets this
ball out in like two point two seconds, which is
super fast. Like this is honestly just great throw by Dark.

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He sees that pressure coming and not only gets rid
of it but makes a tremendous throw to drop that
into little Jordan Humphrey. Like, great throw, awesome job by Dart.
I think this play would have gotten more burn and
shine had it been a sack or if this ball
fell incomplete. Instead, it was just like, oh what a
great throw by Dart. But yeah, the quickness, the hand usage,

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just like we saw you know South Carolina, right, that quickness,
that ability to stop, start, the hand usage, the penetration,
that's what you're bringing Sanders in for, and it was
nice to see him do that. This one was nice
to being able to cross that many gaps and move
and get across the center's face and bear down. I
also love the stem between Keanta Jenkins forty nine and

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Jordan Hancock on this to game up the right guard
and the running back. This was a really nice play
overall from several guys and by design.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I wish we had more time to break down Hancock's
film and Evan Jenkins, because well, Jenkins complacently.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
He he just looks like a Bill's linebackers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yeah, the way he moves, the fluidity to athleticism, and
how he wins when he shot back door on that
one rap.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Yeah, like dude, filthy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
That is that is young Matt Milano stuff, and I'm
excited about him. I wish we had more time, but
we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
P J Sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
They're bringing pressure off the short side of the field.
He's he's in the he's in the B gap there,
but watch how he jumps two gaps over.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
With that lateral quickness.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Again, we hope we hammered it home enough when we
broke him down and you see him turn the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Hancock gets there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
That pressure between Sanders, Yanks and Hancock really were the
driving force between the great play on the back end
at the catch point Drian Strong being there. The rookies
made some really nice plays in this game, you know,
and you can see a lot of them doing all
at the same time. So I'm excited about this young
crop of defenders, especially on the Bills, rookies on the

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Bills and see where you know, where they can win
and how they win in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Yeah, very fair point. This was well, yeah, I love
this play so much, and they're just like a little
fighter zone accent through three under three deep. That's Landon
Jackson number ninety four, dropping and covering underneath on that
tight end, and then the rush you're able to create
off the right side. The running back and right guard
get confused a little bit because Jenkins is stemming that

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b gap and then shoots back inside. Both sixty and
twenty five go with Jenkins, Hancock comes free, Sanders is
coming through. You hit the big one for me with
Sanders's being able to turn that corner and not get
pushed out wide like that takes flexion, That takes core strength,
like he's the center's trying to lean on him a
little bit sixty fours watching and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
That guard can't help.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
He can't help because Sanders is so quickly across the
face but also depth wise into the line of scrimmage
and across it that that guard can't help the center
on that play.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
No, he's dead in the water. And you see a
little bit of that ankle flection from the inside leg
the left leg of TJ. Sanders as he turns it.
Just lateral explosion or quickness, however you want to verbalize.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
It and give the hands up like step quarterback now
has to throw it up over the top of him, right, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
And he's doing that as he's getting bared down on
by Hancock and gets hit and then Strong does a
good job on the back end. Yeah, there were some
you know, and I echoed some of this during the game.
It sucked to see third down struggles and third and
long struggles like we did last year, but there were
some really good plays from several of the young guys,
which is really encouraging to see.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
So, Dawrian Strong, I have a few clips before we
get out of here. I know we're running a little
long ere I thought his communication and you saw on
that one play earlier where they had the him and
Lewis executed that slice and exchange. His communication was great.
He was always you saw it on that play, use
his hands and verbally tell Cam to cut. There was
a play where they were were they in cover six

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there was a hook the curw a flats defender that
needed to cover a guy underneath him as he dropped deep.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
He called it out, told him to go down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
I thought he did a great job at the line
of scrimage two, choking releases, getting his hands and disrupting
the release and then staying over the top eliminating.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Guys as as options.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
On the play, you see him bottom of the screen
take away that single isolated route and Dart wants to
go there. This is the one where Hoyt gets a
piece of it. But you see that Dorian's there to
choke that route and take that away. Unfortunately, the next
play was the touchdown. You saw the Dart where they
get that at one on one up top with Dan
Jackson for the touchdown. But I thought he did a

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great job whether he was in manzon. Here's another one
three deep basically three under look here bottom of the
screen he bails and this is the one where he
breaks to the middlefield. So this is good understanding right
at because again he knows pressure is coming. It's three
deep three under five man pressure. He knows he has
to match this inbreaking route because this is the weakness

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against this coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Yeah, this is that sideline angle or the wide angle
of the last play we showed highlighting Sanders with him
across the face of the center and cross multiple gaps.
Hancock Jenkins all that this was nice to see on
the back end from strong and like you highlighted like
where the weakness in the coverage is. Right as they spin,
there's going to be a void there in that three

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D three under. You have to match that. You have
to be able to stay close. You have to stay
and phase this that type of three deep three under,
especially in like that fire zone type of world that
is more of a match coverage perspective. So he's got
to match that. He's got to be able to stay.
You see him get into that bail. He's got his
eyes on the QB, but the receivers in his periphery.
As soon as that receiver, I think it's gonna rol

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Schewsky that zero, which threw me for a luke because
Brian Burns is also wearing zero. I didn't know you
could have two lumbers like that. This is in college.
But that's a good job from Strong staying close there
and being able in position to try and make a
play on the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Yeah, and we saw this one earlier. Again he.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Great Cam and then gets back and he gets back
because with that slice from Cam Lewis and taking away
that crosser. Now this corner to the top of the screen,
he's kind of getting out leverage. He has no one
in the post to take away a post route and
so Strong recognizing it and matching that route to get
over the top to take that away is a huge thing.
And it's something that we've broken down many times. When

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you talk about Trey White doing it for years and
years and years and getting interceptions and picks on it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
We've seen several guys make plays on it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
This is great on it coming from Green Bay and
early and we highlighted why the school was awesome at that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
And it's something that bills.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
It's a day one type adjustment or call when you
know when they're in cover one or cover three. They
kind of use it in both type of situations. It's
a good check they had and obviously for the rookie
to pick up on that, to remember that, to understand
that and then execute it, kudos to him. I thought
he had a good game overall.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Yeah, and this one's really nice too. I know it's
tough to see as the play goes through, Like the
mental piece that you highlighted, I don't have too much
to add, Like I just wanted to drill home really
the angle that he takes once he sees it, like
his eyes are already on number one from the far
side because his man is breaking across, calls out to cam, Cam,
drives on that crosser and then look it strong as

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just watching the far side receiver and the angle he takes,
like if that ball gets thrown, he's not going to
shallow his aiming point wasn't at you know, the far
side forty He's not going to be in trail like
he's meeting that receiver where the receiver is going on
that post route. Like it's just the mental side, but
the physical execution, that angle that he takes really nice.

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Kind of you know, pro ready play from a guy
that we talked about when he was drafted, who fits
the defense from what they like in between the ears
and from a play style standpoint, tons of snaps, tons
of experience at a school known for defense and playing
good defense. Oh so what really, you know, it was
nice to see him kind of be what he was
sort of billed as you know early on, and he

(01:15:20):
got a lot of burn in that game and he's
probably gonna continue to get a lot of burn in
this preseason.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Yeah, it was a good game overall.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
I know they lost, but there was some really good
film and a lot of those rookies got a lot
of playing time and so that's good. But it's just
good to have film to kind of analyze seventeen times
during the week until the next game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
It's nice to be that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
You know, we started initially top down some of the
you know, concepts and stuff what they're trying to do.
Then we you know, we're able to step back and
then dive in a little deeper when it comes to positions.
Then it's like individual like, it's cool to have football back.
It's great to have film back, and it's even better
to have film back and to be back in the

(01:16:04):
film room breaking down film with you and and everyone
that joined us live for this show. We went a
little longer then I wanted, but there's a lot of
stuff to get to and Brandon Bean.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Just blame it on Brandon Bean's Bean's fault.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Tell him, you know, you're really screwing over the film room, guys,
each and every transaction that you do last minute, because
we had to add a whole bunch of segments today
because of the extension of Chance Cook.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
And it's been happening for years. This isn't a one off.
He's been doing it to us consistently, but we appreciate
for it and the work that he's done. Yeah, it's
it's good to have ball back and the tape, but
you know it's funny too. I had stuff with family
in a good way on Sunday, but the first thing
I thought of was like, I'm not gonna be able
to watch film until like late Sunday night. I was like,

(01:16:48):
this sucks. It's like I just it's good to have
it back and having for the bills and have it
lead wide and yeah, we are getting closer to our
regular routine and rhythm. It's nice to not have to
go off the beaten trail when it comes to the
content or what we're going to cover. You folks know
what you expect from us here in the film room,
and we're starting to get ever so close to our

(01:17:09):
regular routine and rhythm of real game action in the
regular season. And you join us here in the film
room for the house and the whys behind all the
good and the bad schematically individually, anything and everything, Eric,
any final thoughts or anything for the people before we
say goodbye.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
No, I mean thanks for joining us live and even
on the replay. Obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
You can find us on Spotify, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, wherever
you listen to podcasts. You can listen to this in
audio form as well, And if you haven't gotten a
chance yet, check out Turf the tape with Sel Capacu
and I. Things are off the ground and running and
it's been fun to kind of cover the team from
a different angle and different approach. You can also find

(01:17:50):
that on YouTube on the Cover Sports channel, but also
on his YouTube channel, and also in audio form as well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Yeah, really awesome, you know, with you and Sale and
kind of and that beat reporter piece and then the
Cover one knowledge aspect that folks have come to expect
with us. Yeah, really cool show, a nice addition to
the channel, and check that out. Check out. Oh we
have so many and I'm not like in regular season Rhythm.
Now we got the air Raid Hour on Monday nights.
We got in a review with Joe DeRosa. He'll be

(01:18:18):
back to his regularly scheduled Tuesday It slot coming forward.
He's dropping an episode Friday, joined by Bruce Nolan, which
will be cool.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
You're doing me postgame, right, I am.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
I will be live during the I forgot that Bill's
play Sunday night at eight o'clock. I thought it was
Saturday at eight, but it is Sunday night at eight,
So join me on diskui's coverage probably a like eleven
fifteen or immediately following Bill's Bears for a postgame episode
of disguised coverage. Yet we got a lot of content flowing.
I don't see anything for Greg and Aaron tonight. I
don't think they're going tonight, but if they do, you'll

(01:18:49):
see it up on the channel. And yeah, we appreciate you, folks.
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(01:19:11):
loved ones about it. It goes a long way towards
helping us to track and trend and move in the
positive directions that we want to move to. In addition
to like's, review, subscriptions, all of that stuff, we hope
you folks enjoyed this episode. Thank you to everyone who
tuned in live and on this Wednesday afternoon, maybe in
the middle or end of your workday special Thank you
to anybody who blew off work and decided to join
us and take an extended break.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Smart decision, yeah, that's the way to go.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Work doesn't matter, so we appreciate you folks. Anyone who
didn't watch live and watch later or listen later, thank
you very much. Whatever form or fashion your episode consumption
comes in, we are tremendously grateful for it and thankful
as well. That'll do it for us here in this
episode of the Cover one film Room for myself, Anthony Prohaska,

(01:19:54):
for mister Eric Turner. We will see you when we
see you. We hope you and your family and friends
and loved ones are all doing well and staying safe.
Godspeed and as always Gobils.

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