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Speaker 1 (00:30):
What's good, folks, Welcome to another edition of the Cover
one Film Room, the show that gives you the hows
and the whys behind both the good and the bad
of the Buffalo Bills. I'm one of your two hosts,
Anthony Prohaska, joined as always by Eric Turner and Eric
we continue this bit of this weird flow that we've
had on shows the past several weeks of like you know,

(00:50):
going live, doing recorded episodes, going on Monday's Wednesdays, different things.
And today, Monday, May twenty sixth, we're going live again,
this time at a much different time.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Than we normally go even more we go live.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
We're going live at nine am Memorial Day, Monday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's because we're not alone in this episode. We have
a guest. What do we got going on in this
episode here?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, first of all, Happy Memorial Day to Anthony and
everyone joining us and joining us live and you know
later on but as you said, man special guests.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Another guest in the trenches.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
We're talking defensive line today with Bill's defensive tackle Dwayne Carter. Dwayne, again,
Happy Memorial Day, thanks for joining us. We're ready and
eager to learn from some football from you. And I'm
sure the fans are as well having more day.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Man, I appreciate you guys having me on. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
You know, do you have anything cool planned after the
show for Memorial Day? What do you got going on?

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Bro? Look, so I'm trying to become a grill master.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Okay, Okay, we're talking.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Okay, I'm gonna it's gonna be our first like holiday
we're on. It's me. It's all me. Oh we go.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
A smoking What are you doing with this?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
You're talking our language?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Oh? I got I got to know pro pane grill.
Just got it, Okay, And I think I'm gonna do
the basic stuff like hot dogs, burgers, do some steak,
and then I'll probably do some chicken too.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I think you got to right. I think it's barbecue
chicken right.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Oh, good to hear man. Yeah, I was just telling Anthony.
I have all of my friends and family coming over today,
and I smoke a lot of food. So I'm doing
something simple. It's kind of a set it and forget
about it. I'm my smoker and I'm just doing a
you know, some pulled pork or pork butt. And so
I put that on last night at like ten PM.
So I'm like eleven eleven hours in right now, and

(02:34):
I've still got a few hours to go. But man,
I'm excited for Memorial Day. But I know we're all
so excited for today's film room, So let's get into
some of these questions before we get to the film.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I'm hungry now, don't I know.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I know, I know we're gonna earn the food for this,
but there's no doubt. So something that always comes up
in all of our fans when they knew you were
coming on. It's a question that always come up comes up,
especially for the defensive tackle position. Man, you're playing weight,
What is your typical playing weight? What was it in
your rookie season? And is that going to fluctuate with
some of maybe the role changes you may see going

(03:08):
into year two.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yeah, So I mean, let's talk all the way back
at college. I kind of played around two ninety five
my first three years of college, and I didn't actually
get above three until the back half of my career.
So my last two years when I played at like
three or five, and then coming into the league last year,
I bumped up to three ten actually, so three ten
is were I've kind of been sitting that and I

(03:30):
mean I feel good. I still run the same, I
still moved the same. So that's why I think I'm
stay at this year as well.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
What's that process like for you in adding the weight and.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Then maintaining it, because obviously it's a it's a it's
a balanced routine between like the weight, like the weight training,
but then also diet and making sure you're not losing.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Like, how difficult was that for you? What did that
look like?

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, so good thing. You know, I'm a bigger guy,
so gaining the weights now, that was the hardest part
for me, right, Yeah, staying around that mark. Right, So
for me, like you said, just you know, know my body,
I think is the most important thing. And what I
can and what I can't eat, what actually sticks on me,
what doesn't I can just doing certain foods, especially during
the off season. This being my first off season actually,

(04:13):
you know, learning what a pro off season is and
how much timen't really have and how much the focus
is on us and it's on us to you know,
be in shape, having consistent schedule, running, lifting, nutrition and
all that. So, I mean, I'm figuring out, but I'm
gonna be around.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Three ten, So you got to make sure you if
you become a girl master, though, you got to factor
that in.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, all right, like that might pop up up variable
real quick.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Yeah, listen, I told you I got a grip. I
didn't get a frier. We got to but I got
the grill.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Man.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
You know, it's a little bit healthier.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Now, you know, maintaining that weight of around three ten
going into this year. You know, there's been talk about
some of the role changes, maybe playing more nos. We'll
get to some of that later, but does that change
your off season program when it comes to strength and conditioning,
what you're working on maybe skill wise, is has anything
changed because of that that changing and possible changing role
going forward?

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, honestly no. I mean we look back, especially me
coming into the Bills last year, a lot of my
college tape, I played everywhere on the line, right, So
I always tellus, even during the draft interviews and everything else,
the interviews, to be like, what do you feel come
of saying I just play football at the end of
the day. So whether it's three technique, you know, they
might bump me out down to the edge, don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
We got a lot of I remember those reps. I
remember those reps in college.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Maybe I'll get to shout out there.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's I can't like, that's such a good draft process answer, like,
oh yeah, I pla anywhere.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I just play football. Like that's not good, Like I.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Mentioned every coach and GM being like ooh, good answer
and kind of like checking that down.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
That's what dude, Like, I mean, you know who's like,
it's not me just saying that you know a lot
of things, but it's just the truth. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And also I mean also I think it kind of
reflects a bit, especially from like your Duke tape, like
seeing you kind of play everywhere and that effort you
gave and then knowing I mean, we don't interview you
in the pre draft process, but you hear the things
and how much of a leader you were on that
team and the presence you had, and it makes sense
like for you to be one of the captains and
be one of the leaders and have the role that
you had and then see it on the tape like that,
Yeah translates. And I think when you give an answer

(06:12):
like that, if someone knows the tape and knows you
and translates, they can tell it's not just fluff and
being like, oh, he's just trying to sell us on something.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Also going to your rookie year, you know, last year
with the Bills, a little banged up, which happens the
guys all the time. But just if you can't talk
about how the injury affected your play, if you have
any examples of kind of how you had to tweak
things or shift things a little bit to adjusting to
having a kind of play with that injury, you know,
during the year as a rookie.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah, So I mean, so what was it week whatever?
Played in Nashville, So that was week seven eighth, So
im of atabshing of time on here.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
So I think appreciate it, thank you.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Leading up to that wellas that was the game I
got hurt. So you think about we started off at
Arizona week two into Miami a little bit more time.
We three went to Baltimore. Didn't work out so well
for us as a team, but also more confidence in
that game, I saw more reps And then I think
who was it after? Was it Jets in the summer

(07:15):
their Jets? Maybe? No, it was Houston. So it went
down to Houston week, and that was what my number
was called.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, you had a good game that Houston game.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
You balled out when you got some more reps.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
I appreciate that. So that's when my number was officially called.
And I think that was the turning point for me
in that season before the injury. Right, that was where
my conference was. It was kind of like, all right,
I can play with these guys, like have you that
Clayer on this team? I haven't run the team. I
earned that. And then Nashville game we go through, We'll
have another pretty pretty decent game, a lot more reps.

(07:46):
And then after the game, I go to cut the
spat off my shoe to tape off my shoe, yeah,
and I like drop, I couldn't even hold physicians.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Oh wow.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
So I kind of like I looked down.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I'm like, that's weird.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
I'm like I was weird, Like what's kind of going on?
And the same thing I wear, like the rich braces
to tape everything. I protect everybody as much I can.
So I got to pick up my phone, drop my phone,
and I'm like, all right, so I's not right. And
then sure enough, take the tape off versus off. So
I would look like some separation of my bones, and

(08:19):
then I mean had to end up getting surgery. I
tried to see what I could do with the cast on.
I couldn't even shake your hand as a man, So
then had to go get surgery. Came back. LA was
the first game back, and I was I was back,
but I wasn't all the way there yet, you know,
So I don't think I probably was really all the

(08:40):
way healthy again until that New England game. I think
that last game, that week eighteen games, when I honestly
felt the most comfortable out there. I felt stronger, I
had my instincts and everything back. And then going from there,
obviously I didn't see any accident to play often that
was tooch the decisions. So when he and win that run.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
So I do have a question with that last part there,
you know, in the playoffs, so you started to kind of,
as you said in Week eighteen against New England, kind
of catch your stride back. What was communicated to you
for those scratches in the playoffs. I know it's a
lot of times it is a numbers game, and they
did bring in several guys at your position to kind
of help help out, especially experience wise, What was kind

(09:24):
of communicated to you in those moments, which I'm sure
we're you know, very disappointed with how hard you worked
to get back into shape, so but I'm sure you're
gonna get plenty of playing time in the future. What
was communicated to you in those moments.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah, that's a great question. I mean you kind of
touched on too. It's the numbers game at the dinner
to day and this is a business at the end
of the day, and so I mean through those conversations
we had, I mean, nothing was like a surprise to me,
very transparent, and that's why you know, at the end
of day I had to adjust my new role, and
that was you know, I'm beat the number one two
there on the team at the end of the day,
I'm supporting the guys therever I can. I'm still saying

(10:00):
what I see on the field, trying to help out
watching iPads or was it the windows tablets or whatever,
nice trying to pick up on different tennessees for other teams.
So you know, I just got into a hold the
row and honestly, last year I think overall was just
a good year for me because I learned from so
many bets, right, We had so many guys that's played
double diggit years, I mean almost double digcha years, and

(10:20):
so much experience around the league and different teams and
even in Buffalo. It's health. So I mean last year
for me, I think as the injury, it was just
all about learning. It was about learning before, but I
think last year really was like when I look at
the teverline and it was probably the best thing that
could have me as a rookie because I could to
sit there and learn. There wasn't any pressure on me
to come in and totally you know, just I got

(10:42):
a lot of that right away. I mean, I'm getting
hurt and I started to I started to heat up
a little bit, which you know, that always been a
nice to run that trail, right, But at the end
of the day, I could sit back and learn from
the bets, you know, and support them. They support me
however they could.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
And as far as you talk about maybe that was
probably the biggest adjustment for you mentally and physically in
year one. But if you're talking on the field, when
you're rushing the quarterback, what was the biggest adjustment that
you underwent when you know, going from college to the NFL.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Yeah, I think it's timing right, and just how fast
everything's happened. I think my first really taste that was Miami,
uh whatever, week two and seeing how fast they get
the ball out right, how much on in the backfield,
how they got all these receivers who are four to two, four, three,
but they all get their route. Yeah, two seconds and

(11:37):
then two always has those pre set reads and he
knows who's going the ball a lot of times. So
I mean, just and that's just one example. And especially
because you know, I had a coach. They used to say,
we're hunting the most talented breed in the world, which
is the quarterback. Right, So they're the smartest animal on
the planet. And you want to take none of the
smartest and the biggest and the baddest. And you know
that's as d lineman or the biggest in the baddest.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
A quick question for you on like a as a
follow to you know what you just said about Miami, Like,
I guess, especially with how two is in Miami's offense
is but I guess even in general, like how do
you as a rusher A just knowing that, like because
when two is on and he's in rhythm and he's
able to drop and he knows where his like pre
snap read is going to be and where that window
is going to be. He could throws and he hits it.

(12:19):
What's it like having to rush against quarterbacks who are
so in rhythm or so in time to the point
where like your rush is almost nullified because the ball's
coming out in like one and a half to two seconds,
which is like right when you're starting to get going
and then you're like the ball's out, Like what does
that do from a mindset perspective? How do you try
to adjust? Like how does that impact you in game?

(12:40):
Knowing like damn, like the ball's coming out before I
can even get there.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah, you know, it's frustrating, right, And I think, honestly,
this was the biggest earning point for me just watching
I think you talk about week two or not week
two the second time we played them. I mean, he
was hot, like he wasn't us read like they were
just clicking as slanders at the same time. You can
look at if you watch his tape, we were winning
up front. I'm watching ed win, Greg win. It didn't

(13:04):
matter who was like, everybody was winning. Right, but it's
just the ball was out in like one point five.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, and that happened a lot against your defense. Overall,
that's something we thought the entire offseason, like you on tape, like.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
We're winning, but also teams know how fast that we win,
you know, we just everything like that. So the ball
is gonna come out fast and naturally, so you know
it's gonna be frustrated. But they even talking to older guys,
like I said, I learned from them. You just gotta
keep going. Because also one of my coaches in college,
he said, with sack comes, they come in bunches, and
I think that can be more true. Yeah, one guy

(13:35):
breaks the field and after that they just started rolling.
They starting I think the biggest indicator of that for me,
who was the Arizona game this year because Greg had
three even that it was like it was just crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, you know, Da, that's such a good call. Yeah,
we did.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
We did an episode here last week talking about like
some guys that we think are being overlooked a little bit,
and we were looking at Ads, a bunch of ads raps,
and it was a big thing of like watching him
win like quickly, and so he wasn't showing up like
he wasn't generating like a pressure, but he was beating
his guy.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
But the ball's coming out like one point five seconds.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
So it's awesome to get like your perspective on that
and just adjusting to that piece. And yeah, you keep
hunting and keep going. Well, started getting some of the
schematic questions here a little bit. We talk about positional
alignments all the time here on the show. You even mentioned,
you know a little bit kind of you play anywhere.
A lot of reps for you kind of on the
interior in general last year, like some some one tech stuff,

(14:31):
some three tech stuff, just talk about the differences in
responsibilities and mindset for you when you're kind of aligned
at nose or aligned at that one tech versus being
at the three in the bill scheme.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, that's a good question. Like I said last you know,
we're a get off team. We get off the ball.
We don't run up the field. We don't run up
the field, get off, but we get off the ball,
play blocks all that stuff. I mean show on the tape,
but also for me, the adjustment to you talk about
the game I think was the biggest thing for me
last year. Coming into OTAs and camp always tell the
story there. But I'm like that first OTA practice, I

(15:03):
think I was the second late off the ball. Every
play you can reach, scoop whatever it was like, I
was like, I was like, I don't know, I don't
know along will last up here, so you know. But
it was more so like the knowledge of the game, right.
And when I say knowledge game, it's not just knowing
you know, coverages or formations. It's just looking for keys
and different tails because a lot of times often tell story.

(15:24):
I'm sure defense do as well. But like you can
tell from backfield sets, you can tell from alignment stances,
you can look at it off from the line of
his knee to where he's going. You can see what's
gonna move first. Right, So those are all things that
I learned this past year, right about different tales. And
this is just football one on one. At the end
of the day. You have a great coaching staff, and I,
like I said, I had a lot of vets around
me just talking to these different tails. So when you

(15:44):
go into playing, you know, a three versus one at
the end of the day, I view it the same thing.
There's obviously more freedom at the three. But my mindsets
to say, at the end of the day, if I'm
playing that run block and most of my reps were
runs last year, you got dominate the men in front,
you get the ball and a bitch chest running through
and you know, penetrating. That was the name mar again, penetrate, penetrate,

(16:05):
pen the trade. So that's kind of my mindset. I
mean along the.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Way, all right, and as a guy in his first year,
you know, trying to learn those things on the fly,
but also play fast. That's that's Uh, there's an adjustment period,
as you said to that been, and a lot of
fans don't realize we're running backs the line, whether the
quarterbacks are under centrists, whatever formation they're in, the split
of the guard and tackle. All these little things come

(16:28):
together into one play at a time, and you're trying
to process that in real time on the fly. But
then you're also trying to process that from play to play,
from drive to drive and how things stack up.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
So that's a very great point.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Again, this is why we love bringing you guys on
to this show because these are the the minutia and
details that go into a.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Single play and the results.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
A lot of what the fans see is just the results,
but they don't know the process behind it. So talking
about process here, you know, when it comes to playing
the one, the three year or wherever they have you,
you know, rotating or switching at what point in a
play or a drive, do you know which one you're
gonna be aligned that you know going into when you're
coming onto the field, how do you know where you're

(17:11):
gonna if you're gonna be at nose on this player
or a three tech at that play? Is there something
communicated to kind of walk us through that process and
how you figure that out going into a.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Play that means a communication aspect. Obviously, you know coaches
call the shots, so that's usually how it works out.
Sometimes you know, you out there and can get switched
around depending on sub in and out taking whoever. And
that's why you know we preach here at the build
just knowing the playbook right, knowing everywhere and the potential
spots that you could play because you know, things happen
fast in the game, so things get mixed up, but

(17:40):
it usually comes from.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
The sideline, uh, you know, speaking to kind of communication
pieces and stuff from the coaches. Again, going into year two,
for you, So you finish your rookie year, last year,
exit interviews, all that kind of stuff. Was there anything
in particular that was you know, feedback kind of given
to you from the team on what to work on
this offseason or what to build on, and you know,

(18:03):
did you have anything in particular that you wanted to
work on and build on, you know, going into year two.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Yeah. So for me, honestly, I think I'm playing going
the off season. Was efficiency and movement. When I say that,
I mean, you know, whether it's pass, rush or run,
just having my footwork so clean to the point where
I don't waste any steps. And that's what I tell
especially on my teammate, said Duke. Still the younger guys,
I'm like the difference between the NFL and causes me
like the NFL bank wasted no steps, Like I mean

(18:32):
we all see James ray Tye like if they get
a wire zone the stress, look they take about three
steps and there gone. Yeah, in the back we play
across the league, I mean we played you know what
they always say, one to thirty two, one thirty two,
it's one of thirty two, Like it's it's not too
many of them. So they're different, right, and they don't
waste any movement. So for me, the same thing of delon.
The best pass rushers, they don't waste any steps. Like
even watching watching Vonn last year, I mean that's a

(18:55):
Hall of Famer. Yeah, and to be able to be
in the same room with him and listen to how
he talks and you only take three four steps. He's
at the quarterback, doesn't wait any movement. I'm watching Ed.
It's the same way now Ed Steep move a little
bit quicker, so, but he doesn't waste any steps. Same
with d and with his reps like he's he's so methodical, purposeful, technical,

(19:16):
Like it's just so that was a big takeaway from me.
I'm like, all right, I need to, you know, sharpen
up my movements in the sense of I need to
get there faster. And that also translates from what we
talked about earlier about how fastball is going to come
out when teams players.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Well with that said, man, we want to jump into
the film why the reason why You're here? So we're
going to take a look at five plays, uh from
your rookie season, starting off with that Arizona game that
you reference and in this on this play, I want
you to talk about the mindset of a pass rusher
when you have a guy like Kyler Murray that is
shortened stature, super dynamic, but can obviously use his legs

(19:55):
to play outside of script and run and pass and
from that nature. So talk about your mindset as a
pass rusher on these type of plays versus a mobile quarterback.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, so this specific play, I remember this was actually
think one of my first reps in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Ever, so welcome to the league, I know.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
So it's funny. So you talk about mindset about you know,
trying to get down Tyler, like I said earlier one
to thirty two, and he's pretty good at escaping pressure,
evading pressure. And he's smaller too, so you know when
you rush, you gotta rush the vision sometimes too, so
you can see, you know where he is, otherwise he
can slipped through. So that's why I kind of went
power here. And you know that's a bigger guard. And
it's funny. On film, you know, typically bigger guys, so

(20:35):
you think, all right, you can't power them, you can't
power them. But you know we saw some on film
where his hands go wide and let his chest open.
So the power was there all day. So I knew
my mindset the first time, my whole first rep, I
was sutterbol set of bawl was gonna be the first
thing I did. And actually I made a lot of
money off this in college as well, so you know
my alley. So I was excited. So I got the
exact what I wanted. We're on the man's side and

(20:58):
you talk about football team else again, we had to
tie into our left right with the bat. He's kind
of cheated out a little bit, so the past indicator.
So it's like, all right, where's the slide going to go?
And that's the thing. It's football is numbers game at
the end of the day, so we want to rest
with the best odds. So just knowing that, you can
look and kind of tell, all right, the slide's gonna

(21:19):
go away from us soon, it's going away from us,
so we're gonna have the ma inside. So I knew
I was one on one now. It was just a
matter of executing right here. I wouldn't stutter. Soon as
his hands go wide, that's when my punching and he
clamps down. But at that time he has no base
and that's where the rush plan comes in. All right,
get back to the level and just clasp the pocket.
I should have stept two hands on, and really I

(21:41):
could have cat. I should have kept running it because
I think I wanted have a chance to get Calcter. Yeah,
that just goes learning the game. But I mean for
my first rush, I think I executed her. I want
to do.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah that also too, Like you're kind of breaking it
down there with first of all those beautiful but even
at that end, like there's such a like that half
second difference decision of being like keeping two hands on
and finishing my rush versus like going up and trying
to maybe like back the pass down to putting arm up.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Like there's so many variables.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, impact like anything that you're doing on any play
for any player. And you know Kyler is the example here,
but just in general, you know, mobile quarterbacks, we see
so many of them now in today's NFL. Like even
the the pocket passer type of qbs still have a
little movement to them. But you know, mobile quarterbacks, how
do they affect your rush plan? Like whether it's prep

(22:29):
for the week or your mindset in the game. Knowing
like you're trying, they're trying to get to a spot,
but they can get off it change angles quickly. Just
talk about how you know, facing a mobile quarterback kind
of changes your plan when you're attacking.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, you know, obviously you got to keep that in
back of your mind when there's a guy who is
like Kyler Murray or whoever you play, that can move
the way he does. But I think it just changes
more so high you throw your moves right, you still
want to rush, You still want to go after get
after him and rush. But as far as like taking
more shots where you may get upfield a little bit
or you may so you get a little high and
no fish hug. Then that turns of two of fifteen

(23:04):
yard plus scrambled opposed to you know, maybe a couple
of yards from somebody who can run as well. So
it's just I don't think more so it's just football,
IQ and you having that in the back of your head,
like all right, well maybe I could try this here.
And also you know, it's about timing. Like I said earlier,
sax from a bunch of so yeah, we're hot, like
there were I know there was a point in this

(23:24):
game where guys were just winning. Ye, it was like
every other place, So I mean times like that, I mean,
guys are just going. But it's definitely in the back
of your mind, especially the way you know we prepare and.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
When you're talking preparation versus a mobile quarterback who likes
to run us as legs like on this play. I
love how you guys are on the same level. Pass
rush lane integrity is very it's very important in these
type of situations, in these type of games with these
type of quarterbacks. Obviously, I would assume you guys do
some type of drills or preparation on the field to

(23:55):
again maintain like offensive line have to maintain some type
of level or pass rush integrity so that he's not
able to squirret out of the pocket.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah, one hundred percent. This too is like and the
Delan review us as one like you know, I guess
say you could say, if it's one body for moving parts,
describe it right, and you gotta rush together. And you
know when you rush together, everybody, you know, the offense
always says it, but it's still true for us on defense.
I mean, if not everybody's doing their job, then nobody's
making place.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, No, that's a great example.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I just love the that not only did you win
and I know the ball does get out, but just
showing how you guys maintain your levels, your pass rush lanes,
and how important that is versus a guy like Kyler Murray's.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
It's great to see.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Now, this is the game you referenced earlier as well,
where you know you kind of your number was called
and you were making plays.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Uh, this is against the Texans.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
This is a draw play against the Texans where you
blew up the play right at the line of stream.
And so walk us through this play and initially, like
you start pointing at the running back on the film.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Did you see something on films?

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Was there a tell or something you saw in film
leading into this play that you knew this draw was coming,
and maybe how that changed your plan going into the play.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, so you look at down the distance. I'm pretty
sure it was second in like long yea here if
I remember correctly. And then this formation on film was
a draw. You see the back is almost behind the
tackle and I was going to get a pass it
here from the guard and he's kind of sitting back already.
So either either it was going to be a draw
or I was gonna get out of the ball really fast.
I have a better shot at my rest. But I

(25:26):
was thinking draw here. And as soon as you see
how the guard kind of turns and tried to wall
me out. And as soon as he did that, I
knew what it was. So he had no power in
his legs, a straight leg. So that's why I just
take it straight back until see your hands the battle off,
and then you got to make the play, like I said,
because you know draws are long and developing, so we
have more time.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
You've talked a couple of times already, like talking about
tels and you know, no informations and alignments and everything.
Just walk us through a little bit of you know,
your kind of your prep process for the week, or
do you do you start with the formation and alignments?
Do you start with the offensive linemen and like the
individual players? Kind of just walk us through your your
film process and how you study in prep.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yeah, so honestly, high like to start my week, I
just watch runs, right, I look for demeanor. I look
for how often line come off the ball. I look for,
you know, different blocking schemes. I don't watch anything very
specifically until I watch those first couple of games of
just how they look coming off the ball, their intent,
Are they trying them all you off the ball? Are
they position blocking you? Like? What is their intent when

(26:30):
they're coming off the ball, right, So then from there
I can gauge. All right, we'll go into their top runs.
Whether it's a counter team, I look at their counters,
I look at their wipes, I look at their mount cts,
I look at different zone plays, and then do break
it down because you know, we have such a great
staff in the building, they break down everything for us.
All we got to watch. Yeah, right, So that's where
it always starts with me, is just watching that initial

(26:52):
demeanor and then the scheme, trying to figure out what
they're trying to do to us as a defense. And
then obviously the last day is third down day past
first day, and then that's just a whole nother conversation.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Fair love it, Love it. So play number three, same game.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
You're at that four I three tech spot here, and
so I want you to walk us through your gap
technically on this play your assignment, and then at what
point do you decide to kind of retrace over the
top to kind of backdoor. This run stop here on
that stop right at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yes, I mean this is honestly what we just called
me a football player at the end of the day,
Like you said, I was in the b gap in
that guard. I was kind of getting off the ball
pretty well this day, and I was giving them a
lot of trouble on the front side of those flocks
when they try to reach me. So I knew I
was starting to get a little bit. We call it
the overreach. So if the guard jumps out later like
that overreach, the back doors wide open. You just gotta

(27:50):
go fast. So I do here. It's not like a
full slingshot, be called like a U turn. And you
see my left arm kind of pulled his pad tip through.
I called that the handle, So I kind of pull
a handle through to propel me. And like I said,
you got a lot more time than you think. So
so as I do that, it's about an angle now, right,
I gotta get back down the line, back down the
hell line. And then it just always works like that.

(28:12):
The timing running back is gonna run right and hit
the gap. I just got to be there and make
the play.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
At this point, you know, we mentioned it earlier. You
mentioned it earlier, like you're starting to cook in this
game and play. Well, what was what was your mind
like in this Texans game? Knowing like, okay, your numbers
called in this game, like you talked about you need
to step up. You are stepping up. You're a rookie,
Like you're in the flow. You started making plays from
the first drive and things are clicking. Where was your

(28:38):
mind at kind of like midpoint in this game, knowing
like okay, like are you starting feeling yourself a little
bit and feeling the flow and feeling like how things
are going?

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, one hundred percent. You could definitely call this to
flow ste game. For me, I just remember not being nervous,
but like just ready to go, ready to go. You know,
I'm in the National Football League, man, We're down at
I'm like the vibe was crazy, the stadiums nice. Like
my mom, I say, made down for the game, like
the first start within because they weren't Eve supposed to
go to the game initially, and once we found out

(29:06):
I was gonna go, they you know, hopped on whatever
flag water and got down there. But like everything was
just I was just ready to go and then you
come out the first play they through that screen and like,
I've been good at pretty much my whole career.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yes you have. That's something we noted when you were
coming into the week.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
And like even like was NFL or even in college,
I made so many plays off of that, turnovers, whatever
it is, so like it just it couldn't have been
a better, you know, situation for me. And as the
game went on, I'm like, all right, I can't let
the team down. That's really what it was at the
day to me, I was like I don't want the
team down either. Trusted me to go out there and play.
And you know, the guys, whether it's you know, TV
DO and d Ham like whoever, it was like we're

(29:48):
having these conversations a big game, like where you can
do this, like you're here for a reason, like Milinos
haking me before the game, Greg something before the game.
It was like, you know, the guys believe me, so
I believe myself. And that's what it was. Love that,
you know.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's when you talk about screens and bad it passes.
It's something when we did the breakdown on you uh
at the Senior Bowl, because we actually spoke with you
at the Senior Bowl down on the turf, and then
when we did your breakdown in Draft season, bat it
passes and screens were like something that stood out all
the time on your film.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
You always made impact plays in those situations.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
I completely forgot too.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, the Senior So Eric and I are at the
Senior Bowl because we we didn't go this past year,
but we went the last two and we're at your
Senior Bowl and all, like the first day, Yeah, he
already does say all we were taking notes on everything
right now.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
All Eric kept talking about.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Was like, Yo, Dwayne Carter's pad level was like crazy
to this like you were getting standing, threw money and
like he kept mentioning it to like every point, like
he would tap me and I'd be like, I know
Carter's pad level. It's like he just kept like he
was like his stance, the flat back, like he's in
such good position. Like we were gushing about it. We
did a show that night. We talked like it wanted
to Like.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
I asked you a question about it and you said
how important that was? That was?

Speaker 3 (30:59):
That was our or interaction at the Senior Bow. It's hilarious.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Funny man that.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Was I completely forgot it. He was like, look at
the flat back. The flat back. Yeah, that's super fun
I completely forgot.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
So moving on to the Patriots game, another one you reference.
I want you to talk about this, uh this run concept,
and I wonder if you had an idea what type
of block you're gonna So you talked about things happening
prior to snap and reads and tells and whatnot. But
the center was very he's very communicating, very well on
this play and calling out you know who they're gonna block.

(31:31):
Is that something you cused up on. Is that something
you listen to when the offsive line is communicating, because
you sure as heck made him play on this down
the line of scrimmage, beating that block from the backside blocker.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah. And it's funny because you mentioned that because a
lot of times they'll tell you what they're gonna do.
And that's why it's so funny because sinners, especially the
best centers. I mean, I play against Connor every day. Yeah,
I mean you can hear him out there him Dave
really are who off the lone. They'll tell you where
they're going. It feels like it's the same across league
for the better teams and the best It's like they

(32:03):
tell you where they're going something to forty four, something
to forty eight like that. But you're listening to those right,
and I just gotta remember who's forty four behind me?
Like I'm remember, like which side is it? You know?
If I don't got time to look.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, when you when you blow up a run, Oh
go ahead, Yeah, when you when you blow up a
run play like this?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Is it? How does it feel?

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Like?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I always like ask anytime we get like trench dudes
in here, like how does it feel in comparison to
like getting a sack?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Like is it? Is it different? Is it the same?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Like I I'm I'm always like a run the ball,
stop the run kind of dude. And I feel like
there's just something different when you can like when when
an offense runs the ball on you, or when you're
a defense that doesn't allow teams to run on you.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I goes one of your things.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
You talk about the demeanor aspect and like the mentality like,
so what does it just talk about kind of like
the feeling of like blowing up a run like this
and having success like that?

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah, I mean so funny. I don't know if you
feel better in a sack, but like blowing up a TfL, yeah,
you like either. Well, if it's a really clean one,
I will say it might be comparable. Like you just
both through the line. It kinda beat them quick off
the hands, and then you hit a running back as
soon as he grabs the football, then they might feel better.
But plays on the line to me, I think mean
a lot to me because it's all right, you defeat

(33:15):
the block, you shaid, and now it's like you're getting
show off your athleticism a little bit, right, And that's
really where you get the side profile taxles so you
can kind of, you know, make them pay a little bit. Yeah,
I think that's the coolest part about these players to me.
And even on this I don't remember what the communication was,
but just different tales I remember because we you know,
had the back those sets and different things like that

(33:36):
each week, I know, and where the ball was going,
and a lot of times you can catch quarterbacks and
centers checking the run that they don't like what they
look and if the idea who's behind me and where
you know where we're at, you can kind of get
a sense of where the run's gonna go, and I
think is pretty much one of those cases wind up
getting off the ball. I'm key in the center here actually,
So when you see a time to take a shorter

(33:58):
step of my initial steps and get that read from
the center, he goes away, then my eyes immediately go
back and you can see the strip of my helmet
kind of shooting. Our hand's gonna go there, and if
I get my hands on him, he's not gonna touch me.
And that's really what was the end of the day.
If I get my hands on you first, he's not
gonna be able touch me and stop me. It's gonna
make it play. M hm.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
So, so your eyes on this play prior to snap
right here, you're keying the center, you said, so, is
there something you're looking at hip, You're looking at knee
you see, like what is telling you? Okay, he's going away?
And then your your vision changes, so like what is
your what is your read here? What's your is there
a triangle read? Center guard running back formation to play?
Like what type of things they point out? What type
of things you're looking at prior to snap and then

(34:39):
post snap immediately.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
Yeah, so I'm pretty sure it was need this week
for me. I'm looking at the you know, snapping the
kator because you know well that the inside knee mm hmm.
So like with centers, this is also just football one
on one. A lot of centers can't snap the ball
without moving their knee first, right right, So if you
can catch that first, then your get off can be better.

(35:01):
So I was pretty much in time here, and as
soon as I see his shoulder pass go away, I
know something's coming from the back right. So whether it
was just a matter of how he was, you know,
gonna block mere, He's gonna bucket step and try to
take me over, and I was kind of tighter on
the center, so he had thistans to go. So I already,
like I said, I was step ahead. I just had
to get back and get that separation. And then once

(35:26):
I got that separation, you know where the ball is going,
because they already told you by the way they're blocking.
So after that, playing my block, and I'm not seeing
the whole play at once. At this point, it's eyes
on my work, center goes away, eyes on the guard
clear him, now, should find the ball, finish play.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
There's like a whole little punch list like check check, check.
And that's a good point too about the position too,
like with that that left guard, like he's at a disadvantage,
like trying to get across your face, like where you
already positioned essentially, like right on the center, like he's
already in a loose and spots. So you have the
advantage from a positional aspect, and then your timing of
it as well, like and you just play right through.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Them and just work down the line. Oh, it's so pretty, Like.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
I said, that was like one of the first games, well,
not the one of the first games, probably the first
game I really felt like I was healthy again, right,
and I think it showed.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Well, we're gonna say, in the same game doing obviously
the end of the year, you're a Hummond, You're a hummin.
So we're gonna show another play from this one. This
one's against the Patriots. Again from where you're sending like
some pressure off the edge from the field. Talk to
us about whether that was you know, a run blitz
call an actual blitz call. Maybe the difference between the two,
but more importantly your assignment on this play and the

(36:40):
difference between sometimes when you guys run these type of pressures,
whether it's to stop the run or you know, as
far as blitzing being a contained type player versus being
a penetrator, a guy that is supposed to slant across
the face of the center for example, on this play,
talk about the different roles that you may play as
a defensive lineman when these type of calls are made.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah, so right here, it looks like I'm on the
backside of this, right, And when you run different, you know,
whether it's run or pass pressure. You got to see
what's happening in front of you first. So if they
come off the ball like it's a run, you better
play run. And if it's the past, you don't go
ahead and execute whatever you're gonna execute. But like for me,
I think that's what looked like here because if we
came from the left, I means that was probably backside contained, right.

(37:22):
So I and my initial step is almost later.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
It looks like I think, yeah, let's go back.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Yeah, minal step, yep, I got a ladderal step, right.
I see the guard engaging me as a run, right,
so then sit down, play my gap. So I'm in
pretty good control here, and you see the peak Now,
when you get in that body position where you're locked
out for em body position, you're in control of the pads.
That's when you can kind of play. You obviously have
your primary gap, but at the end of the day,

(37:52):
people in the league get paid for making place and
having your gap, you know, isn't always enough, and we
sit in our defense all the time, like doing your job,
Yes it's enough, but if you can do more, why
wouldn't you do more? Right, So this is one of
those cases here, and I had control at the point,
quick down the way shed, you's got to finish the
play because once that running back to Clears, it was

(38:12):
my gap. Me and javaon and you know, we always
talked about this game, and especially we lean up to
it because we knew we're going to get a shot
to go and you know me and become to the
clubs one of my best friends. We talked about. Man,
we just couldn't wait to play. Now. I didn't know
we were gonna play like eighty snaps, be out there
all day. But it was a blast. You know, it's
a blessing.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
It's like gap and half right, and this play you're
kind of playing gap in half even though you have
numbers inside you and and Solomon are essentially playing the
gap and a half here, especially once you're able to
disengage to make the tackle and runner if you guys
are both right there at the point of attack.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Especially us knowing like I had help inside, right, so
I can almost I'm not gonna say cheat my gap,
but that's what that's really what it looks like. But
I said, I was just playing a football player out
there being a football player. Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
That was my followup question, Like, knowing kind of where
your help is and where the rest of the bodies
are on defense, did that allow you to kind of
you know, you have good position and you're able to peak,
but you know, you kind of said it, like did
that make you feel a little more comfortable to kind
of be like I can cheat a little bit, knowing
where your help is, know where to pursuit would be
coming from, know what the responsibilities are from everyone else,
and like obviously knowing what the opposite is because you've

(39:22):
got bodies inside. If the running back gets through that gap,
there's less bodies out there, like he's got more chance
at space. So like, yeah, kind of just how that
played into your your movement here.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
Yeah, hundred percent. I mean I touched on earlier about
how the importance of being smart our defense and knowing
our scheme right, even if I can't tell you the
exact coverage linebackers or dbs are, and I to that
idea where they're at right, so I know it'll kind
of have an idea at least where the quarterbacks can
read it, the runner backs can read it, where he
can bounce to where are these things? And we talked
about it too with the mobile quarterbacks, stuff like you've

(39:54):
got to have an idea of where we are together
in order to you know, accomplish a job.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Love it, love it all right, So last play before
we get you out here, we're gonna go out with
a bang a Memorial Day. Talking about this fourth on
stop against the Titans, he.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Got a smile on his face already, he knows look
at it.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I love the pad level, of course, I love the stance.
I love everything about this play. Obviously a high leverage moment,
a big play in this game is against the Titans.
So walk us through what you guys were expecting the
defensive front, you're in your alignment, walk us through the
scheme technique is simus and of course importance of the
stance and that pad level.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Yeah yeah, so fourth to one of course, you know
one of my favorite bounds. To be honest, I love
the shortyard and stuff and me and did you actually
joke by all the time, like when we're in together
on the shortyard, it's like we fared pretty well overall.
It's just funny. So even thinking about this game plan thing,
you see the numbers are to R side, So what

(40:51):
two tight ends? White off? The backside was a tight
end and you know, game plan week, you know kind
of which tight end they run it too bat the
end of the day, Like not every tight end is
a blocking tight end, right, I'm sure many people are
aware of. So now shortyardist for me, my whole view
is spoke geting off the ball, like I really don't

(41:12):
play blocks and shortyardists trying to just like you said,
get in that stance, get that flat back and just
kind of shoot off like I'm shooting through a shoot
and you know you can kind of beat him through
the gap and a lot of things people don't realize.
A lot offense linemen mess up a lot of blocking
scheme to short artists like I know what happens so fast.
You know, it shouldn't be hard to mess up. People

(41:33):
will think, but if you see right here, the guard
thought he had helped right on the backs high. So
you see him kind of drop his knee, and you
know fourth and one, like there is no question, like
everybody knows what's happening. I'm gonna hit you, You're gonna get
hit me, and who's gonna win at the end of
the day. So you see him as soon as he
dropped that knee, I fire off, eyes up. Soon as
he dropped his knee, I felt his shoulder. There was

(41:54):
no press on the backside. I was like, there's one
man to beat and I don't know. I don't even
know who it was. I just remember and those players.
You kind of get through the line and I'm not
gonna say you close your eyes, but your eyes get big,
like really big once you get back there. Alright, I'm here,
I don't blow it right. So then you run through
that full back or whoever it was, and I kind

(42:15):
of grabbed him and t rap had his leg, so
I tried to like pull him away so I get
to get the full but it was funny, man, that
was like one of my first big plays I think
at high Mark. So that was that was pretty cool
for me. I was electric man to see, you know,
the reaction from the crowd the team was highline, and
I think that's also just speaks volumes of our team,
Like everybody was so happy for me, and not only

(42:38):
happy for me, happy you know, we got a field
as a defense. I will say too, only like I'm
not gonna say negative, but on the TV copy it's funny.
I bloke through the line, I make a play and
here snuffed out by smooth. So we joked about that
the next week we did the field review.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Man, my question in regards to that, you reference, you know,
being at home on this game and then the crowd
noise and everything kind of give us a peek behind
the curtain and and what you're key in on them,
because obviously the crowd is going bonkers at this moment
to kind of disturb things and disrupt things for the offense.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
What type of things are you keying on?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
You just keen on again the movement of an offensive player,
Like what things are you trying to key in on
so you can get off the ball and make a
difference and make, you know, disrupt the play in the backfield.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
You know, like you said, our stadium is freaking insane, dude,
So a lot of people can't really go off of
cadence like a full cadence that you white ad all that,
Like a lot of that tune is another five by
the crowd. Just awesome for us because it gives us
I'm not gonna say it, leg up, but more even
playing field because a lot of times teams have to
go off their silent cadences or or whatever it may be.

(43:51):
But in these short yard of situations, like whatever my
key is at this point this time, was probably looking
at the front of the what's called left shoulder pad
that guard. But I mean, it could have been a
freaking mouthpiece blowing in the wind that probably came out
of the ball. They may hard capture, they may not,
but a lot of times too more often now you

(44:12):
can tell when you're gonna get hard counted.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
This is also a big This is a big play. Yeah,
this is a big play in the game too. Like
it was ten to seven as I was looking this up,
like to confirm it was ten seven Titans at this point.
This was their first drive coming out to start the
second half, like, and they're going for it before they
get midfield, kind of feeling themselves a little bit like, Oh,
we can blow them off the ball. We can get
on fourth and one. So this is a huge stop

(44:36):
from you and the defense, like from a momentum standpoint
and this game, so it was ten to seven at
this point. The game ended thirty four to ten bills.
So this is a huge pendulum swing.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
But I want it.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
It's part of the reason why I actually the question
a couple of plays ago, and I want it tied
into here.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
So how does how does this play feel like?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Blowing up almost clean through you go through a guard
and then a poor like smaller pass catching tight end
that's aligned at the full back, Like just what does
this one feel like?

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Fourth down at home? Yeah, like just just talking like
to it a bit. Yeah, because it's a big one.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Yeah. I mean, like, like I said, I was on
top of the world. To be honest, obviously there's a
lot of ball less but like I said, this is
my first like big play in high mark, So I
mean to actually make the play. Hear the crowd noise,
and that's one of the plays you get up and
everybody smacking you from everywhere, Like I don't know came
up with the helmet smack celebration?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Do you do you not yet? Do you not like
the helmet smack celebration?

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Oh? And I'm sure if you ask anybody to tell
you the same thing, because that's play everybody you like
headed like as soon as you get to the sideline,
it's just like you're going down the tipline everybody. And
I remember actually at this point I get this sideline
and I was all right, all right, all right, Like
I told you, I was trying to fix my helmet.

(45:53):
But it's so fun. I mean, that played definitely at
the end of the day. That's probably, you know, highlight
of my season, one of them last year for me,
But that definitely was I felt like I was on
cloud nine.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, it was a big moment in the game.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
That again, it like sparked the built like the offense
gets the ball back, scores a touchdown on the next drive,
takes the lead fourteen to ten, and then never looks
back like that.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
That was a huge momentum swing and play.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
So before we get you out here, Dwayne Uh, we
had someone in the chat, James the Player wants to
ask what you think about Hard Knocks and training camp
obviously is uh, especially once you get later in training
camp it can get kind of heated. At Saint John Fisher,
We're gonna see you out there, But James wants to
know what you think about Hard Knocks and what may

(46:37):
come of it.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Yeah, so I think you know, I think then to
day you grew up watching Hard Knocks. I just I
was shocked we got it, to be honest, I think
kind of came out of left field. But I think
when it'll be trading camp will be even more electric
than it already is. Hey, John Fisher extraly came around,

(46:59):
so it'd be cool and I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Have you had a chance to meet any of your
new teammates, whether guys they brought in the off season,
veterans or guys from the draft. Obviously the D line
was a commitment from Brandon Bean, general manager of the
Buffalo Bills. Have you got to meet any of them,
and what are your initial thoughts on some of them,
whether it's mentally, physically or things that maybe made an

(47:23):
impact on you in that first initial meeting.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Yeah, I mean everybody's been here for the most part,
and I think it's cool too for me, like perspective wise,
me coming in last year, I think my draft class
was probably the youngest in a room, but like five
or six years not right. These young guys have somebody
you know, I could have been teammates with in college.
So it's cool, you know, talking to him, getting to
know to them, and you know them just kind of

(47:45):
being the same way I am. Spunge to. Wanted to
learn everything watching them conversation, my ball technique, whatever it
may be. So you do think of the man to
be running those guys and what it's the young guys.
And then Joey, Mike Larry been around too, so you know,
I'm kind of playing with other them because I mean
from came in too, and we started a build a
relationship and he's always teaching me stuff, give me advice,
and you know, you play nine but nine years whatever

(48:07):
it is in the league, like I sawdn't as much
information as I can.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Oh, that's awesome to hear man.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, we are very excited for this season, for the team,
for the defense, for you this Yeah, and like like
we told you before, we jumped online and started here.
We appreciate the time that you took join us on
the holiday, especially when taking time away in general, but
especially when you're trying to step into that grill master role.
So we appreciate you taking time away from that to

(48:34):
join us here. And this couldn't have gone any better.
You were getting a bunch of positive comments from our
live viewers just with how how much you were breaking
the game down, and we kind of thought that, like,
you're a smart dude, heady guy, and for.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
You to be able to yeah, that's that was the
comment earlier.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
They said, it's like Dwayne is translating doctorate level football
down to our high school level of knowledge. It was
awesome to watch you translate the game, break it down, assignments, tells,
anything and everything. So we're just we're thankful for you
taking the time, especially on a holiday, and uh yeah,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Joy the rest of.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Your Monday, enjoy the holiday, and we'll catch up with
you again at some point. I do we do need
to know how the grilling went, like how like how
how today?

Speaker 2 (49:12):
How the progress is going? Like we need to know.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
I appreciate you guys having me on and it's awesome
it's dope.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Hell yeah, man, enjoy the rest of your Monday, enjoy
your holiday, godspeed, health, happiness, everything for the off season,
and we'll circle back with you at some point.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
We appreciate the hell out of you.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
That was good man, yall appreciate the holiday.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
I have a good one. Awesome stuff.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Man.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
I love again.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
We always love bringing guys in to talk football with us,
especially the trenches that it's so so fun to hear
because it's not they're not guys that are typically highlighted
a bunch and given the platform and you know, ability
to voice and verbalize what goes into their play.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
And a snap to snap basis.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Also but Queen McGovern and the pizzas and the cooking
and then now Dwyane with the we there's some kind
of market here that we need to get in on.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Like yes, yes, just football and.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Food, Like I just it's a blind spot and content
when it comes to bills and cooking, there's definitely a
blind spot.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
And then that you imagine if we like got some
like great food or great cooking stuff and we're like
doing like like film and food.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Yeah, oh man.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Breaking down some tape, breaking it down.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah. But we're eating some like awesome ribs or something
great off the notes.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Right now on there'll say that one. We'll book that
bookmark that one.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
He yeah, just super smart, which is I think? Is
that again we talked about it all the time. But
the theme like a theme that I think is great
coming out of these episodes. How smart all these dudes are, Like,
it's not just about physical ability, like, it's that mental side.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
And he highlighted again so much and also think it's
funny too.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
A lot of the trench guys like him and Rousseau
highlighted a bunch although variables and all the like the tells,
the placement, stance, everything like how and it's such a
fine line in a small margin of error, it is.
And he listened to him break it down in his
thought process coming out of college, coming into the year,
and then in actual reps in actual games. Really just yeah,

(51:17):
really super cool to watch him shine and break things down.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
My biggest takeaway from that was obviously the knowledge, but
also the knowledge that he's gaining from those veterans and
how much he still had to learn and how difficult
it is to to sink or swim in year one
when you're trying to learn multiple positions, and you're trying
to manage injuries and all the things that come with
being a pro. That's a huge adjustment for these first

(51:42):
year players. And that's that was my biggest takeaway, was
how much he had learned, but he still has to
learn and and he has many guys in the defensive
tackle room but also in the edge room along that
D line to soak up all of this knowledge from
guys that have been in the in the league for
a few years versus long term veterans, you know, eight

(52:03):
nine years in like you said, Larry Ogunjobi. So that
that was my biggest takeaway, And and.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
I do think it is obviously a big year for him.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
He's got guys that are coming in as rookies now
as well guys they brought in in free agency that
are there to compete with him and push him even more.
So it'll be interesting to watch, you know, how far
he can develop from year one in college, from college
to year one and and to year two, but also
how that competition breeds success or doesn't for that matter.

(52:34):
So that'll be interesting to watch. Once training cap kicks
off at Saint John.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Fisher yeah, pump for camp. You know, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
My My biggest takeaway to kind of piggyback off yours
was just how much he talked about, oh, what're a
penetration front like upfield and all these things. And I
was just like, I don't know why we ever thought
they'd go stout on the inside, Like, I.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Don't know why, I don't know why, but yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
It was awesome to just hear and put more and
again get the these guys who put the focus of
the philosophy and the ideology of like the defense or
position group in mind and continue to put all the
breadcrumbs and pieces together.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yeah, really really awesome.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
And some validation of course when it comes to you know,
the stance and pad level stuff.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
That was kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
But I can't believe I forgot about it until literally
that moment, Like how much you were just like, bro,
look at.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
His look at his stance, look at the fell back right,
And also when he talked about screens and make an
impact in those plays. This is something we noticed when
we were studying this film, you know, I said in
this tweet from May twenty first, almost you know, a
year ago, he's a menace versus screens and it consistently
pitches in with numerous bad passes like that is a
place where he you know, hung his hat in college,

(53:45):
and we saw it a bunch, you know on some
of the plays. He had talked about if I'm that
Houston game and you know, just stopping screens and stop
and draws.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
So man, just fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
That's the part we love the most about, you know,
covering this team is watching individual player development and sometimes
it's good, sometimes it's bad and doesn't work out, but
it's fun to watch that Development's fun to hear that
development when these guys jump into the film room with us.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Absolutely and his callback for it too, him just rattling
off like the schedule of all the teams like in order,
and then the plays and what was happening and like
each thing like it's yeah, just it was. It was
awesome to be able to have this experience as we
have with so many guys in the film. So again,
many thanks to mister Dwayne Carter for taking the time
to join us. Eric, any final thoughts on your mind

(54:32):
before you go out to the smoker and get things
prepared for the holidays.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah, it's it's almost time to pull it off. The
smoker here and I'm gonna let it rest for a
few hours. But no again, thank you everyone for joining
us live. I'm Memorial Day. No, it was kind of
last minute, kind of a weird you know, timeframe or whatever,
but we we had the free day real quick. We
wanted to hammer this out. It's been into works for
a few weeks. It's just trying to get our schedules

(54:58):
to align properly. I have at least one more in
the queue when it comes to players coming on. It's
a guy that Carter referenced in Javon Solomon would love
to hear again his idea on his first year, but
also the competition and all that stuff that comes with
it and what he's been working on. So we're going
to try to get him in here before camp. But again,

(55:19):
happy Memorirow Day. Be safe out there, guys, and we
appreciate all of the people that attended live and the
sharing afterwards and watching affros. But be safe out there, guys,
and enjoy your friends of family today.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I have a great, great one today, folks.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
And like Eric mentioned, we appreciate everyone for tuning in
in general and whatever former fashion.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
But all the live.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Viewers, we know it's a little wonky like Monday morning,
Holiday morning, nine am, but good turnout. We appreciate the
activity and the engagement in the chat, So thank you
to everybody who tuned in live. If you're still with
us live or watching on YouTube at this point post
live whatever, please drop ake on this video.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
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Speaker 1 (55:57):
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Check out all the other content we have across the
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(56:19):
you very much for tuning in today. Enjoy the rest
of your holiday. Like Eric said, if you have food
plans today, like Eric does, eat some good food, relax,
be safe.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
If your big food.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Plans where yesterday like mine was, try and breathe, relax,
drink some water, try and recover from everything that.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
You ate yesterday.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Enjoy your Monday, enjoy the holiday, enjoy the family, friends,
all that kind of stuff, and we appreciate you tuning
in to this episode. Thanks again to Dwane Carter for
joining us and taking the time and just delivering as
we hoped and thought he would. And then I'll do
it for us here in this episode of the Film Room,
So for myself, Anthony Prohaska, for the founder and godfather
of Cover One, mister Eric Turner, we wish you and

(57:00):
your family and friends and loved ones and happy holidays,
and we hope you all stay safe, take care of
one another, be kind to one another, look out for
one another. We will see you when we see you, godspeed,
and as always go Bills

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