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September 16, 2025 • 40 mins
The Fortified Life Podcast with Jason Davis
EP 202 | Tamra Andress | The Founder Collective & Girls Gone Holy

🎙️ Episode Overview
In Episode 202 of The Fortified Life Podcast, Jason Davis (aka Mr. Fortified) sits down with powerhouse entrepreneur, author, and marketplace minister Tamra Andress. Tamra is an 8x #1 best-selling author, international speaker, top 1% podcaster, and the visionary behind The Messenger Movement Podcast, The Founder Collective, Girls Gone Holy, and F.I.T. in Faith Press.With energy, transparency, and boldness, Tamra shares her entrepreneurial journey, her radical encounter with Jesus that changed everything, and her passion for equipping leaders to transform their messages into movements.

🔑 Key Highlights
  • From Failure to Fortitude – Tamra explains how setbacks shaped her as an entrepreneur and how failure can actually be the foundation of fortitude and faith.
  • Marketplace Ministry – How her nonprofit, The Founder Collective, is equipping marketplace ministers through roundtables, mentorship, and the upcoming Founder Academy launching in 2027.
  • Publishing & Movements – Inside her boutique publishing house, F.I.T. in Faith Press, which goes beyond books to build platforms, podcasts, and businesses rooted in Kingdom purpose.
  • Founders, Innovators & Trailblazers – Tamra breaks down these three callings and how they apply to Kingdom leaders who feel compelled to create, pioneer, and lead with Christ at the center.
  • The Power of Intimacy with God – Why true success in business and life flows from intimacy with the Father, not just strategy, hustle, or accolades.
  • Prayer & Activation – Tamra closes with a passionate prayer, fortifying listeners to rise up as Kingdom messengers in every sphere of influence.
🌟 Memorable Quotes
  • “Failure develops fortitude—and you’re listening to the Fortified Life Podcast, so we can’t ignore that truth.” – Tamra Andress
  • “Whether you’re a founder, innovator, or trailblazer, your identity in Christ is the most significant thing about you.” – Tamra Andress
  • “Excellence is not perfection—it’s operating with integrity and giving God glory through the work of your hands.” – Tamra Andress
  • “Don’t compartmentalize your faith. From the boardroom to the bathroom, God is with you.” – Jason Davis.
📌 Resources & Links
  • Connect with Tamra: Instagram | The Messenger Movement Podcast | The Founder Collective
  • Explore Jason Davis: FortifiedLifePodcast.com | JerichoForce.com/Podcast
  • Jason’s Book: Fortified: Being Rooted in God’s Plan for Work and Business – Available on Amazon
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Tamra Andress is an 8x #1 Best-Selling Author, keynote speaker, and top-ranked podcaster with The Messenger Movement Podcast (500+ episodes and counting), The Founder Collective, and Girls Gone Holy.

Featured in Forbes, USA Today, Inc., Entrepreneur, LA Weekly, and more, Tamra empowers high-capacity Christian leaders to transform their messages into movements and boldly share the Good News.

Through her publishing company, F.I.T. in Faith Press, she equips marketplace messengers with tools for publishing, podcasting, and platform development—always keeping play at the core!

She is also the founder of The Founder Collective, a nonprofit equipping marketplace ministers, with plans to launch a world-class Academy in 2026 alongside leaders like John Maxwell.

🔥 Passionate, innovative, and wildly in love with words and The Word, Tamra inspires with every stage she steps on.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome to the Fortified Life podcast, where we learn how
to develop a dependency on Jesus in the marketplace. From
the boardroom to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
God is with you.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Here's our host, author, speaker, teaker, encouragerpreitie, coach, and my husband.
It's the man they call mister forty five Jason Davis.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode
of the Fortified Life podcast where we are passionate about
developing a dependency on Jesus in the marketplace. I'm your host,
Jason Davis aka Mister forti five. Every week we have
the opportunity to bring on authors, speakers, coaches, leaders of
nonprofits who are also passionate about putting God back in

(01:02):
business and folks, it's no different this week. And I
got to tell you I always run across people when
you meet them. It's I've known this person for a
while and we've only chatted a short bit and it's
just funny how the kingdom works. But before I bring
our guests on, let me tell you a little bit
about her Tamra and dress. Listen to this, folks, International speaker,

(01:25):
eight time number one best selling author, top one percent
podcaster and marketplace. Minister, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to
the Fortified Life Podcast, Tamra and dress Tamar, how are
you doing today?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Awesome? I'm so excited to be here and I'm really hoping.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
I was like watching all the branding unfold as you
were talking. I'm like, I really hope you have a
mister Fortified hat or like a sure I need you
to come out to the event later this year.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
And people are like, who's mister Fortified. I'm like, you
don't know him? What do you mean? It's really flag.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's funny. A lot of that stuff is in the
work to.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Working on, working on swag and everything, so more to come. See, folks,
is this what I mean by knowing people? She's already
I'm already picking up what she's putting down.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I love it. I'm so excited. I need to missus
Fortified swag. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
See that's a second thing I tried to tell my wife. Listen,
the ladies want stuff too. I want I love it. Tamra.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
We know that you didn't just wake up in twenty
twenty five. You're an author, you're a speaker, you have
multiple businesses, and we just know that wasn't by happen sance.
So take us on the journey of your professional background
and how you got to what you're doing in twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Sure, yeah, I liked a kid that I got bit
by an entrepreneurial bug. In my very pristine home when
I was little, my mom was an entrepreneur, my nana
was an entrepreneur. I was just like the bread of
the family. That's what we were used to eating. And so
me and all my siblings are actually entrepreneurs, which is
very rare. And I'm married an entrepreneur. So pretty much

(03:07):
no offense to those listening who are like, that's not me.
I love you too. But by the time you hang
out with me long enough, if you if we rub
shoulders long enough, I'm probably going to get you to
start something that's your passion, that something that the Lord
has evoked you uniquely to do. But I went to
school for business thinking, Okay, something of this is going
to come to fruition, but not really knowing what that was.

(03:28):
In my junior year, I was at James Madison University
and they have one of the top business schools in
the country. And you have to do a side by
side with six other fields of business. So I was
in management with an emphasis in marketing, and we have
finance accounting all the other business areas, and we had
to devise up a one million plus business plan, which
of course at that time it had never played with

(03:49):
that much money, so that seemed like a lot. And
after we got accepted into a business wan competition, and
some investors, though we didn't get first, we got second,
had approached us and said, hey, this idea is brilliant.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Someone needs to run with it. Out of seven people,
how do you decide who's going to actually do that.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
It was a maternity, an infant boutique, and one stop
shop essentially, so of course the guys were like throwing
up the X signs real quick. They were running as
far as they could from babies at the age of twenty,
and the other girls were like Wall Street driven. And
so the idea actually rooted from my mom, who ran
an in home daycare in preschool in my entire life,

(04:28):
so thirty three years in that field, and it was
her kind of baby that she had just been like,
if I could do something else.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I would do this.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
So me and my mom actually went into business after
I got out of school, and of course I worked
all the side jobs in the meantime, and I had
eleven different businesses through my twenties, which sounds like, while
she's really successful, while she doesn't know exactly what she
wants to do with her life, or while she has
a lot of capacity and energy, maybe all of the above.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
And I'm okay with that.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Because it was really this time of exploring, seeing what
I loved, what I didn't love, And ultimately the boutique
that we ended up opening has since been sold twice
over and is still here in my local hometown.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
And so it's so cool to see that flourishing.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
In the way that college project had established. Gosh, almost
sixteen seventeen, eighteen nine, I'm like aging myself maybe nineteen
years ago, which is really neat. But then when I
was twenty nine years old, after those eleven businesses, I
had two flourishing at that time, both the boutique that
I'm mentioning and a nursing brawl line that I had
brought from the Australian market, reconfigured with some Chinese manufacturers

(05:38):
and brought it to the American American population.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
The United Kingdom and.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
The Canadian market, and so I was working like sixty
to seventy hour work weeks and was running a brand
new team. I was married at the time and also had.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Two kids under the age of two.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
So I'm going to breathe so everybody else can breathe,
because that is too much for any one human to
maintain without the Lord. And that's what I was doing.
I was running in so hard and the opposite direction
of the very blessings and gifts that the Lord had
given me, which was my home front. And I finally

(06:17):
had a rug pulled out from underneath me. My husband
had a discover that I wasn't living in my full
integrity in regards to our relationship, and it broke me
to a place of choice. I call it like my
forced quit, because you do have an option when you're
living a life outside of the alignment of.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
The Lord, to keep running in that direction.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
And it may have been if I was working that
seventy hour work week, that nine figure contract that I
signed might be sitting in my bank account right now,
but I wouldn't have the things that are one day.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Going to be on my tombstone.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
And that's a faithful wife and a faithful mother, And
so I chose to release all of those things and
hone in on my home, hone in on my marriage,
hone in on who I was, and ultimately had a
radical encounter with Jesus in my living room. And it's
so palpable to this day that I can literally just
see his face. It's like that Moses moment where the

(07:14):
radiance of coming off the mountain everyone sees. That was
really my alter moment and it has changed the trajectory
of my life and allowed me to establish the businesses
that I have now around publishing and marketplace ministry and
doing everything that I do unto the Lord.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
So yeah, that's a bit of it, My goodness, Tamor.
There was several things come into mind, and I number one,
I appreciate your transparency and vulnerability, my goodness.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
So all the way back, going all the way back.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
To school, and Tambor, we hear this all the time because,
especially in a capitalistic society, the competition and the whole
Ricky Bobby thing.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
If you're not first, your last. But I've got to tell.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
You, tamer And, and you've probably seen this too, I can't
tell you the number of times the person that is
not the winner. I think about American Idol, the voice,
you often know more about the person who's not the winner,
and a lot of times we don't highlight that enough
in business. So I think you're a wonderful case of

(08:20):
you still won even though you didn't win the competition.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Look at the path that it set you down.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
So can you speak to because everybody views success and
failure different ways, So can you talk about maybe how
that shaped your journey? Yeah, we didn't win, and this
is what happened, Like how would you finish that we
didn't win?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And yet how would you fill in the bank.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
I didn't win in the moment, but I won an
eternal prize, and that's what my heart posture is and
all the things that I put my hand to now
and thinking about whether I'm seating in a conversation like
this where I'm seeding the gyms that have been passed
to me to other people, whether I'm watering or whether
I'm harvesting, I'm always processing how is this kingdom minded?

(09:06):
What is the Lord's see over this situation? Because otherwise
I don't want to touch the plow. I shouldn't be there,
I would be not actually operating out of purpose in
that moment, it would be out of flesh. And so
allowing my spirit to really rise up every day in
my flesh to die. That's a humility walk that has
taken me. I'm thirty about to be thirty nine here

(09:29):
in a couple months, thirty nine years to figure out
and still learning. And so Sarah Blakely, who owns the
organization's spanks.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
I don't know if you're familiar with it. It's a
women line.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Maybe your mama knows, your wife he knows, but you
know of it. She was raising a home that celebrated failure,
and she attributes a lot of what she does and
did specifically through spanks with conversation at her dinner table.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
And I love to bring light to it.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
One because I'm raising little entrepreneurs myself and so I
really tap into this. And two because I just think
society has framed failure as the loss when I actually
think failure is the win. And this is why, because
failure develops fortitude, and you're on the Fortified podcast, so
I can't not talk about fortitude. But he her father

(10:18):
asked the question, Hey, Sarah, what did you fail at today.
And what he did is he over night after night,
year by year, he helped to understand and create in
her mindset that failure isn't a bad thing and that
failure is common. And so if every day we fail,
then that means every day we have the opportunity to win.

(10:39):
And so I think that we're winning in some regard
all the time if our heart posture is on the
Lord's work and not our own. Otherwise you're winning at
worldly things and you might gain success, like I mentioned earlier,
but it's not going to have the fruit bearing experience,
not only for generations to come, because they're going to
go down and follow this thing. My kids could have

(11:01):
followed the pathway of success in the world's eyes, or
they could lay their life down every day and process
even as little kiddos ten and twelve. That's all they
are now, little kids on what does failure mean? And
we have experienced a ton of failure even since giving
my life to Christ, of course, like it's not perfect,
even since starting new businesses, but they've seen it in

(11:24):
such a way that we live open handedly to what
God wants to teach us through it.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
And I'm just.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
So grateful of all of the failure moments of my life.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
And I've been walking.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Through pretty wild one in my marriage and in my
home front over the last year. And most people would
throw in the towel and they would say I'm out,
I quit. The Bible says I can, and this is
not one of those situations because the Lord literally called
me to stay.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
So speaking to failure even in the staying.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Most companies fail multiple times before they ever quote unquote succeed.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Most are bankrupted a couple times.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Most have all of these different moments where people don't
talk about that. They talk about the win, they talk
about the billions they have now. But I want to
be I just want to be the people that people
point to the failure moments and they glorify God and
they're not looking to me in any of my earthly success.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Man, Tamra, that that is so good as the people
would say.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
That will preach Let's go indeed, Tamara.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
When you were given the breakdown of your professional background,
another thing came to mind. You having worked both in
a service base business and a product base business, can
you talk about some of the similarities and some of
the differences, because I think you have a unique perspective

(12:50):
on both. On one hand you're talking about inventory and
then on the other side you're talking about Yeah, customer
service in both, but it's like we're serving a person
and one case, and on the other side, we're serving
a person, but we're also looking at the quality of
the thing that's being made. So just maybe provide some
encouragement and then also just some of the nuances when

(13:14):
you have a product versus a service based business.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Such a fun question, honestly, not something that I've even processed,
at least out loud on a podcast before, but definitely
when working with clients. And so I think the biggest
thing that's coming to mind is you mentioned it a
bit like the customer is. People like you can't extract
relationship no matter if you're on a product side or
a service side, just like our relationship with the lord.
It's the priority in order for there to ever be

(13:40):
I'll air quote success, because relationship establishes intimacy, and intimacy
is the access point to somebody giving you money, and
that's ultimately what marketplace is, right. It's an exchange of goods,
and generally speaking, it's a value exchange of I'm going
to give you money and I'm going to get something
on the other side, whether it's a product or service.

(14:00):
And I loved I want to go back to bartering
days because I think bartering is one of the best
ways that I built this particular business based on people's services.
That we bartered services and we built each other's businesses.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
So just a fun little add in there for people
to do.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
You don't always have to exchange money for it, but
when you process that, that access point is a relationship.
And so they're giving you access to their own bank accounts,
They're giving you access to their home, They're giving you
access to their dreams and their hopes and their aspirations.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Again product or service.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
So if I think about a nursing brawl, which is
what I had built, and I think about what I
am helping someone nurse to life such as a business,
I'm really doing the same thing and I just never
put words to it like that.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Praise God for the perspective. But my role in that
is to cater to their needs and to cater to
their wants, and.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
To do so across the board product or service in
the excellence that the Lord would have me do so
integrity is paramount and everything that I put my hand
to and the excellence piece, which is not perfection, it's
very different than excellence.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
And so to study that, man, you're gonna have so.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Much just life bearing fruit. On the other side of it,
you're gonna have so much joy. You're gonna have so
much peace. Even though I might get woken up at
three am worrying about a little nuance in my business,
and I should wake up, I.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Should do this spreadsheet.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
This past season, especially where I have learned Sabbath and
in an entirely new way and learned to release the
things that I'm building to let God build what he's
gonna do regardless of my work, I've really bared witness
to the fact that there's a kingdom plan, there's a
spiritual development happening, even if Tamra decides today she's taking

(15:40):
a day off. And as I've done that in an
entire season where I've basically taken off, I've really recognized
that the Lord is gonna do what he says he's
gonna do.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
His promises are.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Always yes and amen, and all of the work that
you've done to get to where you are on whatever
that product or service development is, it's gonna be inside
of people's hearts. They're going to know because they've had
relationship with you. You could stop selling today and you
still are known, loved, trusted, all of those things based
on the character quality of what your brand is. And

(16:12):
so that's been really evident to me in this season
is that even on the days that I'm tired, even
on the seasons that I'm weary, I might be from
some people's perspective, failing man, God has been winning this
whole time, and it's been so cool to watch.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
So powerful Tama.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Folks you're listening, it's almost like she, I don't know
has taught about this before.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I haven't.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Actually, That's why I said, I've never actually said this
out loud.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, no, I actually might be the one speaking to you.
So good, I love it, Tamara.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Let's start talking about the different things that God has
put within your sewardship.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
So we're talking.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
We talked a little bit about business background, and now
let's get into how you serve your clients. That you've
got a marketplace ministry side, and then you've got the
ways that you support and coach and whatnot. So let's
talk to the listeners about your current businesses, the clients
you serve, and how God just works powerfully within them.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
For sure.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
So in that bio statement, you mentioned an eight time
number one.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Best selling author that was not ever something.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
That I tried to get to or thought that I
would ever be or become. And God really placed this
particular book, which was about that radical encounter I mentioned
earlier called always Becoming in my lap. I went on
a writing retreat because it got downloaded in a conversation
just like this, actually pre podcast, but still just like
this with my personal trainer, and it led me to

(17:42):
one hundred and seventy five pages and twenty five thousand
words within a three day window. And I realized, one,
I really like to do this, and two what a
cool way to communicate and document your journey. And so
upon that one book coming out, I wanted to help
others do the same, and I do it in some

(18:02):
cool ways.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Whether it's through cohort.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
So a multitude of authors are coming to share their
stories underneath one particular topic. We've got one called more
than Enough, and it's by women talking about being more
than their body, more than their job, more than their religion,
all these different pieces. I've got a whole series called
The Joyful Entrepreneur, which is all marketplace ministers speaking to
different areas of ministry as being a joy filled entrepreneur

(18:28):
and not a hustle hard kind of entrepreneur. And those
books have evolved based on what season I'm in, what
I feel compelled to write. I'm like, hey, who wants
to do this with me? And then additionally, I have
several solo authors and we only take a couple of
those projects as a unique boutique publishing house with intention
of not only getting their message out to the world,
but actually developing the messenger themselves, which is the individual writer,

(18:52):
and turning their systems and processes from a business perspective
into a movement opportunity. Most people who write are just
like I just want to write this book and publish
it and then sion ur. I'll make some book sales
and maybe serve some people out the message, which is great,
But ultimately, if people really want to cement something in
what their story is.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
There has to be a machine behind the message.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
And so that's been something I love partnering with people on,
and that's in our for profit fit Press publishing side,
and then the nonprofit is established as the Founder Collective,
which is ultimately a mobilized church for messengers, entrepreneurs, kingdom leaders, pastors,
ministers of the Gospel in even the marketplace, so they're

(19:35):
CEOs and exegs and C suite people inside of there,
we have a weekly church that meets Wednesday on Zoom,
allowing people to actually come and have roundtable conversations about
things that the Lord is doing in their life, mainly
because a lot of entrepreneurs and messengers do a lot
of it solo from being a podcaster. There's many hours
throughout the week though it might appear that you're forward facing,

(19:57):
that you're doing the things, and you're grinding by yourself.
And so to have a well, a spring, a place
that people can come and be breathe life on the
transparency of what it means to be an entrepreneur, how
hard leadership actually is. It's been really life giving. And
so we're actually birthing an academy out of that space
which will be a for profit entity, and we're allowing

(20:18):
people to come to get ordained and established as a
marketplace minister. And so it's going to be really amazing.
We have over thirty seven educators that are going to
come in to share what they've done in their own
life and to allow people to really expand because while
I went to college, I'm not a massive advocate of
it now unless you're going to trade school perspective. I

(20:39):
learned more about business being an entrepreneur than I ever
did in my four years of business school. It just
happened to be that that actual business plan took root.
Had I not done that, I probably wouldn't have applied
any of the other information into my regular entrepreneurial experience.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Now.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
So lots of.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Fun things for profit, nonprofit. But if I look at
all of it and people are like, wow, you do
a lot, I always come back to the one thing,
because that's all we should be doing, is the one thing.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
And the one thing is.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Jesus, and the one thing is making him known, and
the one thing is developing messengers for the marketplace.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Tamara, my good folks, let me tell you something. She
gave a masterclass. She talked about what God is doing.
You've got for profit, you've got nonprofit. People are getting
your dated.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
My goodness, like I'm excited. I'm ready to run out
the tunnel said.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Got it, come with us, come hang out.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I love that. Not only the business is Tamar, but
you yourself are a podcasters. So folks, we're going to
have all this. We have plenty to put in the
show notes. But talk about the podcast, Tama. I believe
that the messenger movement. Yeah, podcast, what is what is
that about? And is it getting the word out? More
about what you all are doing? Is what has God

(21:57):
been doing on that platform?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Yeah, it's been seven years in the making. So we
have over seven hundred episodes. I've never missed a week
of podcast recording in seven years. That alone is just
like a diligence factor. Right when I say show up
in excellence, it's showing up in obedience.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Even when the seasons are hard. And that show has
evolved from what was.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
It was called Fit in Faith, which is the same
publishing name, and FIT stands for founders, innovators, and trailblazers,
not exercise buffs but in this physical but exercise buffs
and the spiritual, and so it matters.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
But as I continue to develop out the brand and
learn who it.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Was I was actually speaking to, I recognize that Founders'
innovators and trailblazers are all messengers, and so turning that
into messengers if you aren't familiar with any of the
messengers that are biblically rooted, I was in Malachi this morning.
Malachi literally means the Messenger, and so go to Malachi.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
It's a short four books, and I incur fourth chapters.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
I encourage you to read it and just recognize what
the Lord would have us do as messengers, and really
sit in the obedience and excellent side of what it
looks like. It really will snapshot this entire episode, because
I'm talking about intimacy, and I'm talking about relationship, and
I'm talking about building, and that's all happening by what

(23:19):
the Lord said through Malachai so many years ago, and
it's so prevalent today.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
So the Messenger movement is meant to do that.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
It's meant to equip the saints, It's meant to equip
the people who are meant to share, and I believe
all of us in some regard are meant to testify.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
And so there's no.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
One really excluded from the listenership the avatar, if you will,
of the podcast, but I can encourage you that as
you go, be prepared to be sharpened, because this next
season that is about to unlock for the Messenger movement
is spicy in the best way. I don't let people
sit in mediocrity, in complacency and hiding ultimately, because that's

(23:57):
where I was for a decade in my entrepreneur old
Messenger experience.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I was just hiding. I was hiding behind.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
My own insufficiencies, my false humility, pride for sure, a
lot of things that the world tells us to get
dressed in every day and Kingdom tells us to get
dressed in entirely other way.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Wow, that is powerful now, I almost they do in sports, Tamra.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I have to call time out. Let's let's go. I said, messengers.
What were the other two?

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I think messengers very clear, you said messenger trailblazers.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Yeah, founders, innovators and trailblazers.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Founders, innovators, trailblazers.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
So to us for a second for the listener, because
I feel like they got hit with with some power
there and some messenger. I fully understand, and my goodness,
Malaka is powerful.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
But there's just for a.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Second define and I know people and when they hear
those words, they got their own preconceived. But for you,
what is a founder and innovator trail blazer?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
For you?

Speaker 4 (25:01):
I love this.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
So founder is obviously the entire nonprofit and the academy
side of what we do. And it's primised off of
Ephesians two nineteen through twenty two, and it's talking about
Jesus though ultimately being our chief cornerstone. He's the rock
in which we are founded on and so our foundation
should be Christ and from that space we are now

(25:22):
able to found and find others. So we're founded, our
businesses are founded on the rock, and then others get
to be discovered through what it is that you build.
So if I walk into your entity, the thing that
you've built, the thing that you said, here's where I'm found,
I would be able to come in and find an
element of myself because of the way that you testify.
And ultimately it's not about you, it's about how you

(25:45):
are displaying Christ. And so I get to find another
character quality of Christ in the way that you show
up in the marketplace every day, because it's going to
be different than.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
How I do.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
So Founders shout out to all the founders out there
if you're like I didn't find anything. If you want
to be found, we have a dwelling place for you
and you will ultimately establish that thing that God has
put inside of you.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Innovators is just the creative expression.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
There are so many incredible content creators out there, and
I wanted there to be a space that they knew
that their message didn't stop at the screen, that there
are other people that get to come together and innovate.
And I found through my entrepreneurial experience above all things,
that I cannot do it as a solo entity. I
could never have done seven years of podcasting without the

(26:28):
support of my team. I could never have done the
businesses and established what I did and created multiple six
figure revenues without a team.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
And so the innovator space is to remind.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Us that there is multiple of us and that we're
all image bearers for Christ and so if we can
come together, that's when kingdom shifting can really happen. So
innovation is with other people and ultimately with God. And
then the last one is the trailblazers. I know for
me personally that I have, whether it's been in my family,
being the first to become bornegrin Christian being the first

(27:02):
generation to go to college, being the first to have
children and not celebrate things like Halloween or Santa I
am going first in a lot of ways, and I
believe that there are a lot of trailblazers out there
in the Kingdom that feel like they're alone. But it's
one of the things I say in my messenger movement
intro is I believe.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
The microphone is a machete.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
And so if I am going first, and that takes
me using my mouth to go first, I'm going to
blaze a trail for people to follow. And that's what
God has taught me to do. That's what John the
Baptist did. He came to make a way so that
others could find their way to Jesus. And that takes
some bold, sometimes crazy, skin wear and animal wearing guys

(27:44):
to do it. But I've got a machete, and so
do you? And are you using it wisely? Because our
words will either speak life or they'll speak death. And
I want the trailblazers to echo through the times and
that's what eternity does.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
And so just calling them out loud with the megaphone.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I love that Tamra. And that's why I call it
tim And I.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Said, wait a minute, now, we need to go back,
as they say, let's run it back, because I didn't
want people to miss that. Wow, founders, innovators, trailblazers, and
I just love how not just how specific they are, Tamra,
but it's meeting people that there's in each one of those,

(28:23):
and maybe some people are two of them or all
three in some cases, but it just really gives language
to what people have experienced and letting them know they're
not alone, that God is with them, and that they
don't have to navigate this life on an island. And
I love what you said too, not just we can

(28:45):
do a lot of things for God, but with God,
so with God with people, that is powerful.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Tamra.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
My goodness, y wow, it excites me because there's so
much there, right, It's like a constant adventure. It's a
constant exploration. And that's what the Word of God is, right,
there's nothing stale about it. Even though this has been
an echo and time and this is the number one
best selling book of all time, and it will continue
to be day by day, year by year, decade by decade, century,

(29:18):
by century because there's so much to explore, and so
that navigation of where do I go and what's my
calling and what's my purpose? These things that are like
being infiltrated into not only the church world but the
world at large, trying to make people feel insignificant. Your
identity is the most significant thing about you, and so

(29:39):
when people talk about my bio, I'm like, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Those things are fun, But it's.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
That I'm a child of God and that you are too,
and there's an invitation there consistently that makes us imperfectly perfect.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Come on now, imperfectly perfect. I love that.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
My goodness, folks, I'm telling you you're gonna want to come.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Back and re listen to this.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
One for sure. Tam are at the time of this recording.
And I love this because I feel like someone like you.
God is always for number one, He's always moving. But
I'm really excited because you have a grace to do
multiple things.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
And I know you talked.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
About the failure aspect, but there's also a grace to
be able to handle and steward multiple things. So in
this season, what are you excited about that maybe upcoming
for the second half of the year now. Is there
anything exciting Q three, Q four or maybe even that
you're planning for twenty twenty six? Is there anything that

(30:42):
comes to mind and that department.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Yeah, there's a couple that are firing off as you're talking.
I was talking with my husband yesterday at six am
before church, and I had my computer open, and I
don't usually on Sunday, but I had my sister in
town and all the things, and so I'm sitting there
and I'm like, they am I like the only person
you know that knows what they're going to be doing
in October of twenty twenty seven, and.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
He's probably Vabe And I love that about you and
it's not shocking.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
So like, I have so much in Q and that
it makes me just want to live every day to
the fullest and know that every day there is something
excited happening.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
But in the right now, I'm excited.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
We just had a family move, so we just moved
homes and the Lord has prompted me to bring my
son home for homeschooling as he enters into sixth grade,
So that is firing off as something new, and like,
how in the world can you do all of these things?
And now be a homeschool mom. Ask me in six months.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure how it's gonna go.
But if the Lord wills us, he will sustain us.

(31:39):
And so that's one thing. And he's a mini entrepreneur.
He's actually doing a three D printing company and even
year to date he's had he's made over six thousand.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Dollars just this year in sales.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
So we're so excited to just continue to nurture this,
this giving and stewarding inside of our child and the
creative innovator. And then I have it com it's called
the Founder Con that happens every single year. This is
our fifth annual experience that's taking place.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
In Norfolk, Virginia this year.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
And those founders, innovators and trailblazers they'll be in the room.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
The messengers they'll be in the room.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
The podcasters, the content creators, the pastors, they'll be in
the room. And so it is this incredible opportunity for
people to come and not really listen for more motivation,
because one thing about founders, innovators, trailblazers, and messengers, they.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Don't need motivation.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
God has already given them an intrinsic motivation that's eternal
for them to show up to life every single day,
even in the hardest seasons.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
That's the fortitude, right.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
So it's a place that people can come and workshop,
they can come and relaunch, they can come and create
new partnerships.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
That will help birth something new.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
We come and we celebrate what the Lord has done
over that year, and we get ready for what's to
come in the spiritual realm.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
For twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Six, it's that armoring up opportunity to do together with
other believers. And I'm so excited about all of the
diferent workshops that we're going to be hosting and the
speakers that are there.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
This is the first year we're not doing it virtually.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
So if you're listening and you're like, I want to come,
but I want I'm not going to be there, you
gotta come.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
It's got to be in person. Norfolk, Virginia, November fifth
through the seventh.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
And then the last thing I gave an allusion to
what's happening in twenty twenty seven. In January of twenty
twenty seven, we are launching the Founder Academy that I
talked about, and so right now we're just in the
build phase of getting all the educators together and equipped
and all of their recordings done.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
But it'll be a live experience for teaching.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
And a recorded and so there's just going to be
in person opportunities. It really is like signing up for
a year long college class that has all the professors
inside of it at once, and they're all spirit filled,
and so I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
All the hands, all the things happening, but all exciting.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
I love it, Tim, were some of these things I'm
hearing about for the first time, and I'm excited like
I've known about it.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
For a long time. So thank you.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I love the energy and the passion, and folks, this
needs to be You want to be in the room,
as they say, for this, so make sure and we'll
have all of Tamra's information in the show notes. Get
in the room if you can make way. Tamar, this
has been wonderful. I could talk to you a whole
other three hours, but folks, we've got to let her go.

(34:15):
She's got to continue conquering, taking ground and doing what
God has called her to do. Tamara, I can't thank
you enough for hanging out with us today on the
Fortified Life podcast.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
It was so good, Jason, I'm so excited, and I
was actually back listening to all of these other episodes.
The cool thing about interviews like this is that they
really are timeless, and so I loved listening.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
I listened to Wendy, I listened to John, and I
was like.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
These are so rich, So just encouraging you in what
you're doing and the platform, in the space that you're
providing to other people. It's just it's going to have
that ripple effect long after you can even still continue
to press record, but hopefully.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
You do, absolutely and it's it's moments like this, Tamra
where it comes full circle and I'm just I think
God gives me new passion to keep keeping on and
as somebody, we're nearing the two hundred episode mark, so
I love hearing from people that are at three hundred,
four hundred and seven hundred in your case. So it
just it encourages me to keep on going, keep on

(35:14):
doing what God has called me to do. I greatly
appreciate it. Tamra, you have given Gem's value. You told
us about upcoming events and calendar. What is the best
way for listeners to connect with you and keep up
with what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah, I hang out most on Instagram, so chime in
over there. One of my favorite things is voice memos.
So if you want to take and go the extra
mile and we can actually exchange some prayer requests, I'll
happily pray with people. In fact, I'd love to pray
for your audience before we tune out today.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
For sure, love that Heavenly Father, we thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
We thank you that you have ignited something inside of
the listener today that spark that ember that they needed
to just be reminded of their worth, of their value,
that they're failure is actually the fixing point for you.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
God, that you come in like a mighty.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Rushing wind and you'll ignite the sails that you've been
given to them. God, that nothing that they've walked through,
that nothing that they're walking through will leave or be
set aside as useless, but instead will be the very
thing that you use to rebuild and to share their story. God,
I thank you that they are messengers. I thank you

(36:25):
that there's a desire in their heart to tell, to
go and tell and.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
To make disciples.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Lord, whether that's at the grocery line, whether that's in
the car pool line at school, whether it's calling an
old friend or encouraging a new one. God, I just
know that the people listening to Jason's podcast are here
because they want something more God, and the more that
they're desiring is always You.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
And so I pray that they run back to the Word.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
I pray that your living Word would penetrate their spirit
and help them to divine, divinely assign them the thing
that there's meant to do, that purpose, that calling that
they're searching for, the thing that they want to be
found within and help others be found in God. To
run to Malachi, for them to have the example of
the messenger that he was and is God, a living

(37:10):
testimony for us to be able to do what we
do day in and day out, And that's to be
your children. God, that even on the day that they
decide to sit and just dwell at your feet, it's
enough in the season that they decide to sit and
dwell at your feet, that it's enough.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
God, that their enoughness is.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Not come from their accolades or the worldly rewards, or
the successes or the money. God, it comes from You,
from the perfect crowns that You've devised for us from
the advocate that sits at the right hand. God, that Jesus,
who was sent from you, buy you, through you and
for you, God, who emanates all of your love to
us every single day, that the blood that he shed

(37:48):
is the power in which we get to walk in
every single day, that we get to cast out demons,
that we get to stand in the authority, that we're
the head and not the tail, and that we have
a mouth that can be used as a mischie just
as he did, that can literally break generational curses, ties bonds, God,
that can literally distract and torment the enemy, as they

(38:09):
have been doing to our brothers and sisters for far
too long. And so today may they be fortified through
this show, and may they stand in a fortified life
as Jason example so beautifully. I pray blessing over his home,
over his wife, over the mister and the missus fortified movement, God,
and that I could just see them standing in such

(38:29):
stature as they're dressing the Ephesian six, the weapons of
warfare that you've given us, God, the artillery that.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
You've provided with them.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
God, ask them right now to just continue to get
dressed like that and to remain impenetrable. And that's done
by literally robing themselves in your spirit every single day,
to not operate as man would, but to operate as
the king would.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
And that's who they are, King and queen in your kingdom.
I love you, Lord. We praise your mighty name Jesus.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Amen, Amen, Amen, and amen, my goodness. Thank you for that, Tamra.
I'm ready to rock and roll. Now.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Let's do it trailblazing.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
The trailblaze, folks. That's clearly all we have time for
here on the Fortified Life Podcast.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
That was a mic drop prayer right there. You know
how we leave things.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Don't compartmentalize your faith in the marketplace and from the
boardroom to the bathroom, God is with you.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
We'll have all of.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Tamra's information in the show notes. Fortified lifepodcast dot com,
Jericho Force dot com, Slash Podcast for the show notes.
We'll see you next time on the Fortified Life Podcast.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Thank you for listening to the Fortified Life Podcast. You
can catch us live on Wednesdays at a thirty pm
Eastern Time and on demand. Check out Fortified lifepodcast dot
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(40:04):
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