May 22, 2025 • 52 mins
S6E21-Tony Poole
Mission to the Philippines with Tony Poole
Mission to the Philippines with Tony Poole
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Thank you. I had to get marked.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Come in, Okay, welcome to the Fred Hughes Show. We're
just excited about coming to you on here. This is
good looking cuss sitting next to me. Here is Tony
Poole from the Philippines. He's joining us a litt where's
getting a little bit of a late start on account
of some tech nicol difficulties.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
But we are.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We are up and rolling. So we thank you for
joining us, and we're excited about about Tony being on tonight. Uh.
We have lots of things that we like to do
and and one of the things that we like to
do is encourage you to jump on the the website
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sometimes and take a look at what is there. There's
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There, we go.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
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and for you those little buttons really do help us
get get the word out. Please do that. And anyway,
so anyway, we're gonna we're gonna kind of push it
over here to Tony Pool and uh and welcome Tony.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Ah good, good to be here with you. Fred. I'm
sorry being so late on this, but we had problems
with so yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Sometimes it h hitch up right.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I have a media person upstairs and we were sitting
there trying to do this. We brought him down and
he just and it's done.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We were just fight CALLI was about to go crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's the reason we're so late.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
No problem, we're gonna get it recorded and up and
running here shortly. So actually we're live, so we're gonna
we're gonna have a good time here. First of all, Tony,
I just I just kind of wanted to, uh welcome
you in.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I want to one more little announcement before get rolling here.
There's a guy named Jim Murphrey that's going to be on.
He's from Freema, Texas, my old hometown. And next week
he is going to teach us about the show Far
and we're gonna blow show Far and he's gonna he's
gonna do it kind of an in depth study on
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on what it is and how it came to being
all of that good stuff. So be sure and join
us next week because I think we have something really
exciting time rigged up with him, So so join us
next week, same time. It's seven o'clock and we'll try
to get up up and rolling on time, but we don't.
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Once again, you know, we're gonna come on.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So I used to tell.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Tell you I'm excited about have you on. I want
you to start out just to kind of by telling
a little bit about what's what your ministry is, just
you know, kind of give me a brush over, and
then I'm gonna I'm gonna turn it over to you
here in a minute.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, we've been in the Philippines since we've actually lived
here since two thousand and three, so it's been about
twenty almost twenty three years that we've lived here. But
we started ministry here in October of nineteen ninety seven.
And anyway, when we came over here, we were coming
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over here to start a school, and I was there
was a pastor named Noley Catalina. That was you remember Noli.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Anyway, Noly passed away several years ago. He was forty
four when he died. He was an awesome man of
God and I met him at Toronto at a prophetic
conference up there, and he had all kinds of awesome
prophecies given over him and everything. But he had a problem.
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He had ended up having a couple of strokes. The
second one got him and he died several years ago.
So he's who I came over here with. He was
the you know, kind of one of the me and
him or he and me. Myself started due to Mius
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International School of Missions to Asia, and it was just
like every other pastoral school, and that is teaching pastoral
things and teaching teaching our students all different kinds of
aspects of building a church and that type of thing.
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But the true calling on my life was different than
what my school was representing. Because God had prophesied over
me that exceeding great armies would be raised up under
your ministry. And this was in June tenth, eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
MM.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I was at Dorman Dugan's church it was called back
then Community Church, and uh to see his Jim Maloney,
doctor Jim Maloney and he's an awesome prophet from Christ
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for the night. And uh, he was there giving for
giving words in the church prophecies that night, and uh
he called called me up and called me in calib actually,
but we were standing there and he props that over us.
And in the middle of that prophecy, he goes, wow,
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he says, whoa like that? And he says, exceeding great
armies will be raised up under your ministry and the
Living Epistle known and rid of me, and they will
be your ministry. Yes. Well, when I got that, he
just went right over my head, you know, because at
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the time I was still in the real estate business.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah. A lot of times and a lot of times
we don't listen closely to those prophetic words, because we
have them come on a raging basis in the circle
we were down there. Now you've got hold of them.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Many times in my life, God had I had seen
millions of people born again in visions from the Lord,
even back in nineteen eighty three to back then, way
back there. I was getting these visions and stuff of
millions of souls. And so when he said exceeding great armies,
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well I thought that was real nice and everything, but
I had no idea what he was talking about, and
it wasn't It was just a little short time after
that prophecy. That was June of June tenth, nineteen ninety seven.
And six years later and many trips later, we'd gone
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to the Philippines. Oh, once or twice a year for
two I got something on mine. Oh there you go.
I'd gone to the Philippines several times a year, and
matter of fact passed. Fred went with me to the
Philippines once in two thousand and one, wasn't it, Yeah,
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think yeah, and another one later yeah, and so uh. Anyway,
he'd been over here a couple of times with us,
and uh. Anyway, so the school started. We started that school.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And it it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I just in my spirit, I just I knew it
wasn't doing the things that I was supposed to be doing.
But I went along with it because I was in
the mission field and I came over there as my
ministry partner was pastor and on and Noley was part
of the fur spirit. Uh, the four lepers nela there
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they called him the four Lepers, and that Melvero, Willie
Linis and pastor and and uh b junior pastor Junior
and uh these guys were called four lepers. Now the
story of the in the Bible about the four Lepers. Uh,
they were called that by pastors. Pastors gave him that
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name because they were ministering apostolically to the Body of Christ,
to pastors all over the Philippines. And so Noley was
very active, you know when he was alive. And so
him and and the four the other three lepers. So anyway,
that's they wanted to start a school and only come
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up with the name Donamis. We call it do nomics
here it's dunamus uh in the States, that's what you
call it. But it's nomus. And the anyway he come
up with that name, and I came up with the
Dunamus International School of Missions to Age. I come up
with the rest of it, and we started that school
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in uh about the time, right right there in the
beginning when I come over here in two thousand and three,
and uh Pastor and Noley, you know he was he
was there for two or three years that doing ministry
with me, and we had many pastors. Uh. Doctor Uh
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Dave Somerol was on my board. You know, have you
ever heard of him? Leicester's nephew. Uh, he was on
my board, and all the four Lepers were on the board.
Governor Doding Billiegis, he was a prominent political figure here
in the Philippines. He was on my board. He was
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one of my best friends. Matter of fact, he showed me,
he introduced me from every to everybody, including the president,
including a mail to Marcus, the original of mailon Marcus
with three thousand shoes. You know, she had a closet
full of shoes that, you know, three thousand pairs of
shoes that everybody made so much fun of her over that.
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But I was introduced to her, and I had pictures
of her and all that stuff. Of course, years later
we had a big fire and burned up every bit
of the burned up all the pictures with all the
presidents that I met. You because that former president, I
got to meet old Ferdinand Ramos and Gloria I can't
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even remember her last name, but she was the president
for all about six years. But and I you know,
I've met most of the presidents. I haven't met the
newest one, uh Marcus, I've never met him. And I've
never met Deterta either. So but back when Noley was
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alive and when Governor Doding was there, he was introducing
me to the hierarchy, and so that's how I got
involved in it. But anyway, the Lord put this on.
I came to the US one year. I used to
come back there every year and raise support. I'd go
to about sixty churches and groups like UH full Gospel
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men's groups and anything that I could get in to
talk of a house house group, anything, and I'd try.
I'd be over there for three months. Well we did
that for I like I think his four years, where
we'd we'd spend nine months in the Philippines working our
tail off with that school, and then come over for
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four months in the U. In the US or I
guess three months in the US and raise money. And
I mean we were when we were there, we were
just going all the time. Yeah, I mean, go go,
go every night. I had we had plans. So that
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was just wearing us out because you know, the Lord says,
come all ye that are heavy laden, and I will
give you rest. My yoke is easy, my burden is life. Well,
my yoke wasn't easy, and my burden was heavy. So
I wasn't in the will of God there anyway. Uh,
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it wasn't long before. I think this was in the
third year the fourth year we were in there. I
believe it's the third or the fourth year, maybe the
third year, and the Lord spoke to me and told me,
bred I lost you. No, it's okay, okay. Anyway, in
the fourth year, I got I got a word from
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God on the way back from the US and the
Lord told me, he says, stay home, all right, No,
this is not that time he said that on that
flame flight. He said, I want you to remove all
the curriculum in the school except the evangelism. And I'd
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already created an evangelism curriculum that the Lord gave me
about five weeks after I hit the Philippines in two
thousand and three, God gave me a He just wrote
it across my heart. As I was ministering to one
of the our housekeepers I was. I was ministering to
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her and Jimma, she's still with us. She's she's been
with us for twenty one years, twenty two years, yeah,
ever since we first come, so maybe twenty three years.
She's been with us a long time. But anyway, we
had this gal named Maria and it was a friend
of Jima's. Jima was brand news born again when she
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come to work for me. So one day I got
my big old Bible. I had a big old I
think that thing was about weighed seven pounds. It was
really cool and it was it was one of those
Kenneth Copeland spiritual Bibles. Yeah, yeah, as a study bible.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And anyway, I laid I laid that big old Bible
down in there and I ministered to her, and the
Lord gave me this technique.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
As I was ministered to her, and it's turned out
to be probably the very finest soul winning tool on earth.
There's nothing like it. I mean, millions of people coming
to the every year because of our tool, because I've
been training pastors for the last twenty years on how
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to use that tool and go out and win souls,
also how to train others to do the same. So
they what they do is they go in and train
after they've been taught in this in my school, the
pastors and the leaders that they bring with them. After
they've been taught, they go back to their church and
they have trained ten people, and those people will be
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a Reaper's club and that that reapers.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, you named it the self the Self Stealth.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh yeah, it's now called the Stealth Evangelism Program. But
it's a it's a program. It's not just the technique.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now, it's all together a different program.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I want to tell you as fastly.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's been perfecting it for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, it's been you know, it started out one way,
but it's a whole different thing now and we're about
to launch a I mean, I don't know the whole
details of it yet, but God's working on me and
and uh we we just revised the last training manual
that I've revised five times since it started. And this
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last time we took all the Filipino the we deep
filipinoized it because if it's going to go international and
needed to be mainly like americanized, because Americanized is recognized
all over the world.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So several conversations over that point. Yeah, it was you
did that, and that's extremely I.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Got a copy here or someone. Yeah, right, this is
the new manual. That's good, say Stealth Evangelism. And there's
the name of our school, do namous, yes, And it's
International Ministry of Evangelism, And I am the Minister of
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the International Ministry of Evangelism. That's what. But my sole
corporation here in the Philippines is now you know, I
went to a soul corporation so that I could have
better control of things and anyway, so we changed the
name of the school and everything is still longer a school.
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It's a ministry completely, but we're still doing the same thing.
But we trained pastors. After they learned the technique, they
go back to their churches and they train ten people
in their church. Ten people will generate in this in
the Philippines about two hundred souls per month. And that's
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that's what's just making two presentations, two presentations of the
Gospel weekly because our tool works so good. They average
about four presentations for every two presentations made. In other words,
they double what you know, if they go out and
make two presentations, they'll end up winning two to ten souls,
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you know, I mean it just it's inevitable. Sometimes they
come in with thirty souls and one presentation, so it's
according to what their situation is. But we know that
it's so powerful. We had a group of pastors trained
here about two weeks three weeks ago, Yeah, I'm not
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sure whether it was in I think it was in
the last part of April. And we trained this group
and they these guys were their day jobs were they
were big construction. They were a part of big construction.
And they gathered like the two of them were they
were or pastors in this class were these construction leaders.
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And so they gathered five hundred people, five hundred these
construction workers, and we got a picture of it and everything,
and we listened to him presenting the three five seven magnum,
which is the technique. That's the name of the technique.
It's all part of the Stealth Evangelism program. Anyway, they
ministered with that three five seven magnum. The one guy
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got up there and he ministered all of these guys.
He held the Bible up, just like I do when
I go out and I make a big, a big presentation.
I will go out there and say how many of
you believe in Jesus? And I hold them and I
while I'm holding my Bible up, said how many of
you believe in the Holy Bible? And I'll shake that Bible.
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Would you like to know what our Lord Jesus says
in the Holy Bible about being born again? Now when
I say that, when I say how many of you
believe in Jesus, they go who the whole audience. They
were just raw. It's a big roar when I say
how many of you believe in the Holy Bible? Raw?
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It's a raw raw, is what it is. It's like
going to a football stadium and get ready to play football.
They're raw rain and they're raw raing for Jesus. These
guys are not saved, they're not born again, they're lost,
but yet they roar because Catholics believe in Jesus, they
believe in the Bible, but they're not born again. Most
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about ninety percent are not born again. Five So what
they're doing the reason they're roaring is because they believe
in Jesus. They believe in the Bible. But it's a
head knowledge and not a heart knowledge, right, And so
when I'm doing that, I'm waking them up to the
fact of what they need to do. And so I
ask them. I asked, and these guys we got a
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We had a video of them doing the same thing
that I do. When I go out and if I
minister to a group of one thousand and fifteen hundred people,
I'll do that. I'll raw wrang, and I'll hold that
big old Bible up and young over there. The whole
audience will roar every time. And I've led thousands upon
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thousands of people to the Lord like that. But to
see somebody else doing the same thing that I do
because I teach them that, I teach them how to
minister to a big audience. Yes, And it takes two
and a half three minutes. One time, one time I
was ministering to a group of drug addicts. They had
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a whole drug addict They call it as a drug
rehab center, and there was like fifteen hundred people in there,
and it was all under the open court, and I
was the third, third, or fourth speaker. I can't remember now,
but man, it was hot out there. I was sweating,
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and I was just waiting on my turn. These guys
got up and talk for an hour, hour and ten
minutes each one of them. None of them led anybody
to the Lord. And then you sit there for three
hours I'm listening to Then they call me up, the
last person to get called up. Two and a half.
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Three minutes later, I'm leading the whole crowd in a
prayer of salvation. I got up and did the same
thing I do and everything I've done it in the
mass weddings where they had three hundred, three hundred couples
got to be married, and all their families are there there.
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There's nine hundred to one thousand people in there, and
I do the same thing in theirs I did there. Anyway,
to watch them do the same thing I did just
took me back. I cried first when I saw that.
I love my goodness it they're doing what I told them,
and they have. They have probably four or five of these,
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no more than that. It's like six or seven of
these big groups, thousand of I don't even know how
big that group they are one of these that build
great skyscrapers and stuff like that. So they probably have
they might have ten thousand, twenty thousand, I don't know
how many. But they say they can do this from
now you know, they can do that from now on,
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because they've got so many groups and they're the leadership.
They're one of the leaders. And they had hard hats
on and everything. Everybody had a hard hand, hard hats on.
And they're sitting there, go how many of you believe
in Jesus, I mean believe in the word of God.
They got up there and let them in the in
the three fifty seven magnum technique led them to the Lord.
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And I'm sitting there watching that on video. I just
absolute tears of good running down my eyes. I mean,
I thought, wow. And you know, I've had so many
of our students that they send messages to us about
there when four hundred people here or thirty people there,
and I mean, just so many people. It's unbelievable. And
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one of these school she runs a school, and everybody
that goes through there, she leads to the Lord. Everyone
see ninety percent the world, you know, the lost people
in the world is about ninety percent ten percent Christian
born again. You know, the world's got seven eight billion people,
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eight billion people in it, and seven billion are lost.
That's nine out of teen. So you know, we got
a big old job promise. And you've got to have
massive aangelism, you've got to have one on one evangelism.
You got to have it all. And man, we're we've
been trained and these soldiers of God for the last
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twenty years. And you know what we trained like more
I guess probably close to nine thousand now, pastors and
leaders mostly a lot of pastors, a lot of bishops,
you know, and we train these guys. Every single one
of our students come out with a passion for winning
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those they come out and they're just the most powerfully
you know, when they get out there in the street,
they win souls every like we had class. I think
it's a week and a half ago. Twenty people. That's
not very many people, right, but then go for millions
of souls guys. So I mean, I don't care if
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I trained twenty or if I train ten, whatever I train,
will go on winning souls after I'm gone, dead and gone.
My wife's didn't gone. Everybody here is and gone they're
gonna steal be winning souls and the people that they
train will be winning souls. I mean, it's it's the
biggest snowball effect on the earth. Really, you're nothing like it,
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because my people, my alumni, which is about nine thousand,
has turned into one hundred thousand, maybe anywhere from ninety
to one hundred thousand alumni that have been trained in
stealth evangelism.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know what, you know what a snowball effect is.
You know, you take a snowball and you roll it
across the keep someone picking up more and more snow,
and then you make you make it into a snowman. Well,
that's called a snowball effect. And God even prophesied that
very thing over me ten years before I got over here.
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He said, there's got to be a snowball effect in
your ministry.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
It was a a black uh profidence from uh I
think she was from which top falls and I can't
remember her name right, ohand but then this is going
to be.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
A snowball effect in your ministry. She's also the one
that prophesied the house that we bought when we when
we came here, uh huh, when we got over here,
and you've never seen that this place, but the the
old Did you ever see the old mission center. I
don't think you've been back since we built that, since
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you had the mission.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, I was in the house that would that you're
living in now, but before it burned.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Before it burned, okay, yeah, Well you got to see
the old place. It was wonderful, wasn't it. Yeah, But
we rebuilt this one that this house is, uh, it's
brand new as of two thousand and well. It took
four years after the fire that burned it down to
build it back. And in pree story's tall. There's a
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guest house across on the other side of the yard,
and that's where we put all the students. And then
we have on the third floor this place. We have
a thirty I think it's the classroom is thirty one
feet long and it's by sixteen or fifteen fifteen thirty
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one by fifteen, So it's a big about four hundred
and fifty square feet for a classroom, and it does
a good job with about twenty twenty five students and
we usually have four to five monitors that are all volunteers.
We don't have to pay them not a penny they
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get here. Some of them come from quite aways off,
they come from different cities, you know, and travel here
to be a monitor in our school.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Right Anyway, am.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I talking too much?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
No? No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I was.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know, I'm amazed, really and truly what And I
love that you brought up the prophetic word because the
prophecies that that, you know, people people receive, they just
don't put much value on them because they don't expect
and sometimes I think, you know, one of the one
of the things that we forget that we have access
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to by the spirit, is that the word of prophecy.
Now you know when we read this, when we read
the scripture, that's the true word of prophecy. It's ever
been prophecy. Uh, And it's.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
All the audience a word on that. Okay, yeah, go ahead,
as what you were saying, I'll give it. I'll give
a word on that.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But anyway, I love the fact that you were also
beginning to incorporate, uh, you know, some teaching and and
stuff that that leads people to the Holy Spirit as well.
A lot of your classes. When I get through with
the evangelism training them how to wind soles, then you
also step into the rim being getting them spirit field
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as well. And so boy, I mean you're you're you're
so equipping the saints that you send out, you know,
you make sure they're born again and then you're part
the blessing of the promise to them. Yeah, and it's just, uh,
it's just such a dynamic ministry and such a dynamic
flow of things. I just take my hat off to Tony,
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and you've been doing it for years and you're very
good at it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
You not much hair on the top anymore, a little bit.
I got most of it in the back. See.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Anyway, Fred, Uh, we're talking about the weapons of warfare, yes, sir,
putting it. Putting the weapons of warfare in the hands
of the saints. And that's what we've been doing since
we've been over here. God called me to as an
apostle to the nations. Originally over here they call me bishop.
That's just you know, they ordained me as a bishop
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in a bishop council, and you know, but I have
my actual calling is apostolic. So but shure, I was
a realtor before that. You know, I worked in my
church for twenty years in ministry, so I was well
trained when I went in the mission field. I had
no idea how well trained I was, but I really was.
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And you know, the technique of the soul winning technique
comes straight from God, didn't come from not one islelder
from me. I used to witness, you know, I always
witnessed in my life. I used to witness for years ago.
But see, it takes five minutes five to seven minutes
maximum to win a perfect stranger and ninety five percent
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effect close ratio. If you're, if you're, if you protect
our if you if you make yourself flawless in the
technique where you're, you do it perfect. You can't miss.
That's why we call the school do not miss, do
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not miss. That's a joke anyway, Dunamus is actually dunamous power.
So we do do a Holy Spirit class when they're
taking a class, that's done on the first the first
night that they're here, and uh it's after they've taken
the workshop and gone out on a practic colm those
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are all foreign the you know, the practical is a
foreign word, y'all. But that's uh practicalom is going out
and practicing what you've learned. And so they go out
witnessing into an area.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
During those classes, you win all kinds of souls. You know,
out there, all those people are out presenting the gospel
and getting better at giving it out.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
And so every.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Class you have, you're you're you're you're reaping a harvest.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Oh it's five five hundred to several thousand, you know,
it's going to how many people were training twenty people
will win about a thousand people in three days and
it's just four practical comms two hours each, but they'll
win a thousand souls. Yeah, And I mean that's unbelievable.
In the States, it is it is that you know,
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you know what, this technique works in the States, just
like it does here. A lot of people think it
wouldn't work, you know, because it's, oh, that's for the Philippines,
that's for a foreign country or something. But that's wrong.
That's a lie of the devil. I have never I've
never opened my mouth to anybody in the US that
it didn't lead to the Lord if I was if
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I was going to present the Gospel to him, I
never miss with it in the States. So if it
worked for me in the States, why wouldn't it for
you or anybody it does.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I've been doing it for years.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Here's what's happening right now. Absolutely, I'm shifting gears because
I am getting a little older, you know, seventy nine,
I'll be eighty this my next birthday, eighty years old.
But I don't feel like I'm eighty years old. I
just yeah, we just roll, roll with the punches, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
There, you know, there you go.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You just you just got the news.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I am having a taste market maker and that that's exciting,
and you feel better than ever.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Huh. Got to keep the car running, you know. So
they put a new battery in me.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So that's good.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But I feel great. I feel great that pacemakers. So
they said, I get twenty twenty more years with that.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I should be about ninety nine when it runs out,
and then I'll give me another one.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
That's good. Hey, listen, I'm gonna ask you how is
the how is the relationship between the US and the
Philippines right now? President Trump's has been doing a bunch
of stuff and changing things around, and and I.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Don't think people are aware the Filipinos that that are
not democratic, non democratic if they're Republicans, Uh, they don't.
They just roll with it. But the ones that are
democratic and they listen to all the fake news that
comes here, they're affected, just like they are in the States.
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If they've got to do their liberals, they're gonna they're
gonna act like a liberal and think like a liberal. So,
you know, but I tell them. I meet with a
bunch of old men down in tropic tropical lud and uh,
they always asked me how's Trump, you know, because they
know I'm a Trump freak, and I get to tell
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them all the time, and you know, I think some
of them have kind of come over to my you
know what I'm thinking, But you know, they quit quit
talking to me much about it. But they still treat
me and they come and have coffee with me and stuff.
But they know they're not going to convince me otherwise. Anyway,
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I lost some trans thought I.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Was that's not a problem. I was gonna. I was
gonna also ask you, you know, like, what do you
what are you personally kind of hearing from the Lord
right now? What what or what kind of things are
or is God kind of running past you? That would
encourage people, you know, First of all.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
The stealth evangelism program. This book. I just redid this book.
And there's another book, uh right here, But.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's okay, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Wait a while. There's another book. It's a training manual
for pastors, telling them what to do after they've trained
a group of reapers in their church. Now this is
the training manual for teaching someone how to win how
to win souls. Now this book, I'm starting to do
some testing with it. I'm want to give this to
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an individual like a doctor or some professional person. I'll
give this to them. There are Christians more again Christians,
and I'll say, read the read the manual, do everything
that it says to do in it. And it's got
a workshop back in the back, and do that. You know,
if if you if you don't get it the first,
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if you go through it and you do all the
workshop and you still feel a little weak on the
on your presentation, then do it again, because I don't know,
you know, if they're teaching themselves, like in the US,
if you get a hold of a book like this,
you can teach yourself how to win souls with this.
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It's amazing. It's got a workshop back in the back
to give you an example right here. It says, I'll
just read them, read something out of it. When when
you have finished the with the prayer, ask them where
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is Jesus? Now? Now, this whole book is full of
instruction about what to say. It's got step six, step five,
step four and so on. And so you can read
that book and then do the workshop and and it'll
it'll take you through the whole training. And it's just
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like I was there teaching you. Brother. I'm telling you
it'll work. God showed me that I was video video training.
I'm still going to do that, but it's going to
be my primarily for pastors for that too. For a
pastor to have it so he can show that video
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and train his people so he won't feel the least bit.
If he's in America, you know, he'll he'll have some
video training, and then he'll also have the books. But
these books by themselves can teach him how to win
souls and how to train his people. The two books,
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and see they're very small. There's uh, let's see, this
one has forty three pages. Forty three pages. Now here's
the key. How many of you could lay would lay
down your life for a couple of days, or for anything,
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for a person, for a for a soul. How many
of you would lay down your life for a couple
of days to learn this? So how many of you
want to win souls? That's another question. If you're there
in the audience right now and you want to win souls,
raise your hands so I can see it. Actually I
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can see, but you can see it. If you really
want to win souls, then I'm gonna have this available
sometime this coming year to everybody that wants it. And
there's eight hundred nine hundred million Christians born again Christians
on earth, so we're going to try to get one
in everybody's hands.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
So they can go to your website, which is doingmos
International dot org.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah or yeah they yeah, right now it's not available.
But I've got to get the other book finished, so
I have both of them, and then we're gonna I'm
gonna rein. I'm gonna read it, you know, a little
training man, my little pocket Bible that we give the
little pocket Bible. We're going to redo that into a
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kind of a little cheaper version so that we can
sell it. Put it with the book and the other
book we have put two of those little bibles in
there with it, and uh two Maybe I'm not yet sure,
but I think we're going to put four manuals like
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our two manuals like this in it, and.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Then you'll have some sort of a package deal.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Past manuals in there. But two of these because they
will need to they will need somebody to help them,
uh with the rehearse with the good, you know, because
they're going to be quoted. They're going to be using
that technique. You need a you need a soul winner.
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You need a soul winner and a soul so you
need two people doing this. And if you got two people,
they've got two booklets. You train two people at the
same time, yea each other. Each one of them be
training each other and back and forth they learn how
to rule.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Where you published this life on Amazon worldwide.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Absolutely, I want to get into everything I can get
it into, because you don't. We got to get it
to everybody. You know. One thing I do know, I
haven't ever been in a church where people didn't want
to know how to win souls. I've never been in
a church. I've never been to a full gospel businessman's
meeting in my life that men didn't want to win souls,
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but they don't know how.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
And there's lots of there, lots of plans, but lots
of everybody's kind of come and go. But the number
one reason people don't witness, and that's you listen to
me right now. The reason you don't witness is you
don't know what to say. The number one reason you don't.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Witness is because of fear of rejection. Okay, the reason
you have fear of rejection is because you don't know
what to say. Yeah, and if you if we, if
we give this tool to you, or if you get
this tool in your hands, whether you pay for it
or receive it, and you take it and learn it,
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you'll be able to win souls at the drop of
a hat. Everywhere you go. You can win your your hairdresser,
you can win your the guy, well, they will pump
gas over the U asked what they do here, But uh,
everybody you run into in the grocery stores and walmarts
and all the different stores that you go to, you're
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always working. You're always talking to somebody that you really like,
and they're very helpful to you. And then wouldn't be
nice that you could just start a conversation with him
in five minutes, the prayer of salvation five minutes. If
you're talking to a waiter in a restaurant five minutes
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and you actually what you do is you every time
he comes back to the table, you ask him questions
about it. You spend two and a half minutes just
developing a relationship with him. So you get to know
who they are. Where are you from? By the way,
where are you from? And just talk to them you
know how long you've been working here anyway, light conversation,
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no polity, no religion. Don't ever ask anybody what church
do you go to? See? In other words, you need
to stay stealth with it, and you can win your
waiters to the Lord. You can win or waitresses be good.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
We can't wait to get your books, so maybe we
have you back on after you get it a published
where you can where people can get a hold of.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
I've got to get that other one, you know, before
I'll start packaging.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Let me just let me just say we're about to
run out of time, so I'm going to uh, I'm
just I'd like to.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Fast for it.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, I'd like to pray over you and Cali right quick,
and then I would like to have you maybe give
us a closing prayer. So Father, I just pray for
for for Cali and for Tony as they minister in
your name and the Philippines and around the world with
this with this self evangelism. And so Father, I just
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pray for the anointing of God to fall upon them,
the resources to come into their hands so that they
can complete the work that you called them to do.
And Father, I thank you for for their presence in
the Philippines, and I truly believe their slogan is win
the Philippines and win the world. And uh, those little
Filipinos go out a million different places, and uh, I
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just thank God for the plant in that particular place,
because Father, we know that the gospel will go out
from there. And Jesus just took twelve twelve little disciples
and turned the world upside down. And Tony's already trained thousands,
and so we're just excited about that. And they're not
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gonna they don't just go through one class and that's it.
They can continue to be lifetime presenters of the of
the good News. And we just thank you for that.
We bless their ministry, and we just blessed them coming down.
They're going Jesus' name. Amen. Amen, if you kind of
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just pray over our audience and and bless them, and
and we'll close it with that.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Something that you hit on and I didn't ever get
to explain it is we do teach the Baptism and
the Holy Spirit in every class to empower them to
be witnesses in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and into the most
parts of the earth. We used to not include that,
but I started including that in the last three or
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four years. And we teach the Baptists of the Holy
Spirit every class. They're getting baptized in the Holy Spirit.
Baptist Anthy says, doesn't matter what denomination they are, they
come because God God shows up in every one of
those classes. And they know that no matter what their
denomination is, they just need to be baptized in the
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Holy Spirit, just like like you know, like Paul says
over in Second Corinthians or First Corinthians fourteen eighteen, he says,
I thank my God, I speak in tongues more than
you all. Paul says, in other words, Paul thought tongues
was good. He says tongues is goods. You know, that's
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what they say in the Philippines. Well that's goods anyway, right, Father,
we just thank you for this opportunity to just speak
to whoever's listening. And Father, I just pray that the
things that were said will be will edify you and
build a kingdom and be a mighty thing in somebody's life. Father,
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I pray for all those that are listening, Father, that
they will look forward to receiving the training the training
books later on when we start getting them out, that
they'll be able to train themselves to be soul winners.
They'll overcome their fear of rejection. They'll overcome that by
learning what to say. And Father, I just thank you.
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This is so easy to win souls to the Lord.
And I just praise you for that. I praise you
for your technique. I praise you for your intervention in
all of our lives. How you love us and you
keep us. You are so faithful in loving us and
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providing for us and giving your provision and your protection.
So we just thank you God for being a mighty god,
a god that that is impossible to fathom. Lord, and
your ways are not our ways. Your ways are higher
than our ways, and we just oh Lord, we just
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thank you for being the Lord in our lives in
Jesus name.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen, thank you for joining us again, Tony.
We just appreciate your time. And uh morning, it's in
the morning over where. That's good.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Maybe a different program for you.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
We will last much time trouble getting connected up next time.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
All last night thinking of all that stuff to say,
that's good, you believe that, Yeah, well I have. I
have not prepared a message since I've been in the ministry.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
That's not. I go, I go to the I go
to whatever I do, I do it in the Lord.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
We're blessed by it all. And anyway, we're going to
sign off for now. And so, uh I'm just a
little reminder. Next week is Jim Murphrey, and I'm so
excited about the teaching that he's going to bring toward
toward us about so far and uh so we've got
some other guests coming down the road that are going
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to be really exciting. So keep keep tuning in and
keep recommending us to other people. And we appreciate all
that you do in Jesus Mighty Name. But for now
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Thank you. I had to get marked.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Come in, Okay, welcome to the Fred Hughes Show. We're
just excited about coming to you on here. This is
good looking cuss sitting next to me. Here is Tony
Poole from the Philippines. He's joining us a litt where's
getting a little bit of a late start on account
of some tech nicol difficulties.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
But we are.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We are up and rolling. So we thank you for
joining us, and we're excited about about Tony being on tonight. Uh.
We have lots of things that we like to do
and and one of the things that we like to
do is encourage you to jump on the the website
(01:22):
sometimes and take a look at what is there. There's
lots of things to offer there. So it's uh, let
me see if I can put that.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
There, we go.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'll put Fred Hughes up here and there's the website.
Just follow that and uh and and give us a
give us, give us a look sometimes. Also, if you'll
push those little buttons whenever we're streaming, well that really
does help. And jump on the chat. All of those
things are just lots of fun to uh be able
to hear from you and for you to join us,
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and for you those little buttons really do help us
get get the word out. Please do that. And anyway,
so anyway, we're gonna we're gonna kind of push it
over here to Tony Pool and uh and welcome Tony.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Ah good, good to be here with you. Fred. I'm
sorry being so late on this, but we had problems
with so yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Sometimes it h hitch up right.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I have a media person upstairs and we were sitting
there trying to do this. We brought him down and
he just and it's done.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We were just fight CALLI was about to go crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's the reason we're so late.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
No problem, we're gonna get it recorded and up and
running here shortly. So actually we're live, so we're gonna
we're gonna have a good time here. First of all, Tony,
I just I just kind of wanted to, uh welcome
you in.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I want to one more little announcement before get rolling here.
There's a guy named Jim Murphrey that's going to be on.
He's from Freema, Texas, my old hometown. And next week
he is going to teach us about the show Far
and we're gonna blow show Far and he's gonna he's
gonna do it kind of an in depth study on
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on what it is and how it came to being
all of that good stuff. So be sure and join
us next week because I think we have something really
exciting time rigged up with him, So so join us
next week, same time. It's seven o'clock and we'll try
to get up up and rolling on time, but we don't.
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Once again, you know, we're gonna come on.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So I used to tell.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Tell you I'm excited about have you on. I want
you to start out just to kind of by telling
a little bit about what's what your ministry is, just
you know, kind of give me a brush over, and
then I'm gonna I'm gonna turn it over to you
here in a minute.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, we've been in the Philippines since we've actually lived
here since two thousand and three, so it's been about
twenty almost twenty three years that we've lived here. But
we started ministry here in October of nineteen ninety seven.
And anyway, when we came over here, we were coming
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over here to start a school, and I was there
was a pastor named Noley Catalina. That was you remember Noli.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Anyway, Noly passed away several years ago. He was forty
four when he died. He was an awesome man of
God and I met him at Toronto at a prophetic
conference up there, and he had all kinds of awesome
prophecies given over him and everything. But he had a problem.
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He had ended up having a couple of strokes. The
second one got him and he died several years ago.
So he's who I came over here with. He was
the you know, kind of one of the me and
him or he and me. Myself started due to Mius
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International School of Missions to Asia, and it was just
like every other pastoral school, and that is teaching pastoral
things and teaching teaching our students all different kinds of
aspects of building a church and that type of thing.
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But the true calling on my life was different than
what my school was representing. Because God had prophesied over
me that exceeding great armies would be raised up under
your ministry. And this was in June tenth, eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
MM.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I was at Dorman Dugan's church it was called back
then Community Church, and uh to see his Jim Maloney,
doctor Jim Maloney and he's an awesome prophet from Christ
(06:23):
for the night. And uh, he was there giving for
giving words in the church prophecies that night, and uh
he called called me up and called me in calib actually,
but we were standing there and he props that over us.
And in the middle of that prophecy, he goes, wow,
(06:44):
he says, whoa like that? And he says, exceeding great
armies will be raised up under your ministry and the
Living Epistle known and rid of me, and they will
be your ministry. Yes. Well, when I got that, he
just went right over my head, you know, because at
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the time I was still in the real estate business.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah. A lot of times and a lot of times
we don't listen closely to those prophetic words, because we
have them come on a raging basis in the circle
we were down there. Now you've got hold of them.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Many times in my life, God had I had seen
millions of people born again in visions from the Lord,
even back in nineteen eighty three to back then, way
back there. I was getting these visions and stuff of
millions of souls. And so when he said exceeding great armies,
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well I thought that was real nice and everything, but
I had no idea what he was talking about, and
it wasn't It was just a little short time after
that prophecy. That was June of June tenth, nineteen ninety seven.
And six years later and many trips later, we'd gone
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to the Philippines. Oh, once or twice a year for
two I got something on mine. Oh there you go.
I'd gone to the Philippines several times a year, and
matter of fact passed. Fred went with me to the
Philippines once in two thousand and one, wasn't it, Yeah,
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think yeah, and another one later yeah, and so uh. Anyway,
he'd been over here a couple of times with us,
and uh. Anyway, so the school started. We started that school.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And it it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I just in my spirit, I just I knew it
wasn't doing the things that I was supposed to be doing.
But I went along with it because I was in
the mission field and I came over there as my
ministry partner was pastor and on and Noley was part
of the fur spirit. Uh, the four lepers nela there
(09:17):
they called him the four Lepers, and that Melvero, Willie
Linis and pastor and and uh b junior pastor Junior
and uh these guys were called four lepers. Now the
story of the in the Bible about the four Lepers. Uh,
they were called that by pastors. Pastors gave him that
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name because they were ministering apostolically to the Body of Christ,
to pastors all over the Philippines. And so Noley was
very active, you know when he was alive. And so
him and and the four the other three lepers. So anyway,
that's they wanted to start a school and only come
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up with the name Donamis. We call it do nomics
here it's dunamus uh in the States, that's what you
call it. But it's nomus. And the anyway he come
up with that name, and I came up with the
Dunamus International School of Missions to Age. I come up
with the rest of it, and we started that school
(10:24):
in uh about the time, right right there in the
beginning when I come over here in two thousand and three,
and uh Pastor and Noley, you know he was he
was there for two or three years that doing ministry
with me, and we had many pastors. Uh. Doctor Uh
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Dave Somerol was on my board. You know, have you
ever heard of him? Leicester's nephew. Uh, he was on
my board, and all the four Lepers were on the board.
Governor Doding Billiegis, he was a prominent political figure here
in the Philippines. He was on my board. He was
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one of my best friends. Matter of fact, he showed me,
he introduced me from every to everybody, including the president,
including a mail to Marcus, the original of mailon Marcus
with three thousand shoes. You know, she had a closet
full of shoes that, you know, three thousand pairs of
shoes that everybody made so much fun of her over that.
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But I was introduced to her, and I had pictures
of her and all that stuff. Of course, years later
we had a big fire and burned up every bit
of the burned up all the pictures with all the
presidents that I met. You because that former president, I
got to meet old Ferdinand Ramos and Gloria I can't
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even remember her last name, but she was the president
for all about six years. But and I you know,
I've met most of the presidents. I haven't met the
newest one, uh Marcus, I've never met him. And I've
never met Deterta either. So but back when Noley was
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alive and when Governor Doding was there, he was introducing
me to the hierarchy, and so that's how I got
involved in it. But anyway, the Lord put this on.
I came to the US one year. I used to
come back there every year and raise support. I'd go
to about sixty churches and groups like UH full Gospel
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men's groups and anything that I could get in to
talk of a house house group, anything, and I'd try.
I'd be over there for three months. Well we did
that for I like I think his four years, where
we'd we'd spend nine months in the Philippines working our
tail off with that school, and then come over for
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four months in the U. In the US or I
guess three months in the US and raise money. And
I mean we were when we were there, we were
just going all the time. Yeah, I mean, go go,
go every night. I had we had plans. So that
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was just wearing us out because you know, the Lord says,
come all ye that are heavy laden, and I will
give you rest. My yoke is easy, my burden is life. Well,
my yoke wasn't easy, and my burden was heavy. So
I wasn't in the will of God there anyway. Uh,
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it wasn't long before. I think this was in the
third year the fourth year we were in there. I
believe it's the third or the fourth year, maybe the
third year, and the Lord spoke to me and told me,
bred I lost you. No, it's okay, okay. Anyway, in
the fourth year, I got I got a word from
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God on the way back from the US and the
Lord told me, he says, stay home, all right, No,
this is not that time he said that on that
flame flight. He said, I want you to remove all
the curriculum in the school except the evangelism. And I'd
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already created an evangelism curriculum that the Lord gave me
about five weeks after I hit the Philippines in two
thousand and three, God gave me a He just wrote
it across my heart. As I was ministering to one
of the our housekeepers I was. I was ministering to
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her and Jimma, she's still with us. She's she's been
with us for twenty one years, twenty two years, yeah,
ever since we first come, so maybe twenty three years.
She's been with us a long time. But anyway, we
had this gal named Maria and it was a friend
of Jima's. Jima was brand news born again when she
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come to work for me. So one day I got
my big old Bible. I had a big old I
think that thing was about weighed seven pounds. It was
really cool and it was it was one of those
Kenneth Copeland spiritual Bibles. Yeah, yeah, as a study bible.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And anyway, I laid I laid that big old Bible
down in there and I ministered to her, and the
Lord gave me this technique.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
As I was ministered to her, and it's turned out
to be probably the very finest soul winning tool on earth.
There's nothing like it. I mean, millions of people coming
to the every year because of our tool, because I've
been training pastors for the last twenty years on how
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to use that tool and go out and win souls,
also how to train others to do the same. So
they what they do is they go in and train
after they've been taught in this in my school, the
pastors and the leaders that they bring with them. After
they've been taught, they go back to their church and
they have trained ten people, and those people will be
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a Reaper's club and that that reapers.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, you named it the self the Self Stealth.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh yeah, it's now called the Stealth Evangelism Program. But
it's a it's a program. It's not just the technique.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now, it's all together a different program.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I want to tell you as fastly.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's been perfecting it for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, it's been you know, it started out one way,
but it's a whole different thing now and we're about
to launch a I mean, I don't know the whole
details of it yet, but God's working on me and
and uh we we just revised the last training manual
that I've revised five times since it started. And this
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last time we took all the Filipino the we deep
filipinoized it because if it's going to go international and
needed to be mainly like americanized, because Americanized is recognized
all over the world.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So several conversations over that point. Yeah, it was you
did that, and that's extremely I.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Got a copy here or someone. Yeah, right, this is
the new manual. That's good, say Stealth Evangelism. And there's
the name of our school, do namous, yes, And it's
International Ministry of Evangelism, And I am the Minister of
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the International Ministry of Evangelism. That's what. But my sole
corporation here in the Philippines is now you know, I
went to a soul corporation so that I could have
better control of things and anyway, so we changed the
name of the school and everything is still longer a school.
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It's a ministry completely, but we're still doing the same thing.
But we trained pastors. After they learned the technique, they
go back to their churches and they train ten people
in their church. Ten people will generate in this in
the Philippines about two hundred souls per month. And that's
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that's what's just making two presentations, two presentations of the
Gospel weekly because our tool works so good. They average
about four presentations for every two presentations made. In other words,
they double what you know, if they go out and
make two presentations, they'll end up winning two to ten souls,
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you know, I mean it just it's inevitable. Sometimes they
come in with thirty souls and one presentation, so it's
according to what their situation is. But we know that
it's so powerful. We had a group of pastors trained
here about two weeks three weeks ago, Yeah, I'm not
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sure whether it was in I think it was in
the last part of April. And we trained this group
and they these guys were their day jobs were they
were big construction. They were a part of big construction.
And they gathered like the two of them were they
were or pastors in this class were these construction leaders.
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And so they gathered five hundred people, five hundred these
construction workers, and we got a picture of it and everything,
and we listened to him presenting the three five seven magnum,
which is the technique. That's the name of the technique.
It's all part of the Stealth Evangelism program. Anyway, they
ministered with that three five seven magnum. The one guy
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got up there and he ministered all of these guys.
He held the Bible up, just like I do when
I go out and I make a big, a big presentation.
I will go out there and say how many of
you believe in Jesus? And I hold them and I
while I'm holding my Bible up, said how many of
you believe in the Holy Bible? And I'll shake that Bible.
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Would you like to know what our Lord Jesus says
in the Holy Bible about being born again? Now when
I say that, when I say how many of you
believe in Jesus, they go who the whole audience. They
were just raw. It's a big roar when I say
how many of you believe in the Holy Bible? Raw?
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It's a raw raw, is what it is. It's like
going to a football stadium and get ready to play football.
They're raw rain and they're raw raing for Jesus. These
guys are not saved, they're not born again, they're lost,
but yet they roar because Catholics believe in Jesus, they
believe in the Bible, but they're not born again. Most
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about ninety percent are not born again. Five So what
they're doing the reason they're roaring is because they believe
in Jesus. They believe in the Bible. But it's a
head knowledge and not a heart knowledge, right, And so
when I'm doing that, I'm waking them up to the
fact of what they need to do. And so I
ask them. I asked, and these guys we got a
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We had a video of them doing the same thing
that I do. When I go out and if I
minister to a group of one thousand and fifteen hundred people,
I'll do that. I'll raw wrang, and I'll hold that
big old Bible up and young over there. The whole
audience will roar every time. And I've led thousands upon
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thousands of people to the Lord like that. But to
see somebody else doing the same thing that I do
because I teach them that, I teach them how to
minister to a big audience. Yes, And it takes two
and a half three minutes. One time, one time I
was ministering to a group of drug addicts. They had
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a whole drug addict They call it as a drug
rehab center, and there was like fifteen hundred people in there,
and it was all under the open court, and I
was the third, third, or fourth speaker. I can't remember now,
but man, it was hot out there. I was sweating,
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and I was just waiting on my turn. These guys
got up and talk for an hour, hour and ten
minutes each one of them. None of them led anybody
to the Lord. And then you sit there for three
hours I'm listening to Then they call me up, the
last person to get called up. Two and a half.
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Three minutes later, I'm leading the whole crowd in a
prayer of salvation. I got up and did the same
thing I do and everything I've done it in the
mass weddings where they had three hundred, three hundred couples
got to be married, and all their families are there there.
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There's nine hundred to one thousand people in there, and
I do the same thing in theirs I did there. Anyway,
to watch them do the same thing I did just
took me back. I cried first when I saw that.
I love my goodness it they're doing what I told them,
and they have. They have probably four or five of these,
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no more than that. It's like six or seven of
these big groups, thousand of I don't even know how
big that group they are one of these that build
great skyscrapers and stuff like that. So they probably have
they might have ten thousand, twenty thousand, I don't know
how many. But they say they can do this from
now you know, they can do that from now on,
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because they've got so many groups and they're the leadership.
They're one of the leaders. And they had hard hats
on and everything. Everybody had a hard hand, hard hats on.
And they're sitting there, go how many of you believe
in Jesus, I mean believe in the word of God.
They got up there and let them in the in
the three fifty seven magnum technique led them to the Lord.
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And I'm sitting there watching that on video. I just
absolute tears of good running down my eyes. I mean,
I thought, wow. And you know, I've had so many
of our students that they send messages to us about
there when four hundred people here or thirty people there,
and I mean, just so many people. It's unbelievable. And
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one of these school she runs a school, and everybody
that goes through there, she leads to the Lord. Everyone
see ninety percent the world, you know, the lost people
in the world is about ninety percent ten percent Christian
born again. You know, the world's got seven eight billion people,
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eight billion people in it, and seven billion are lost.
That's nine out of teen. So you know, we got
a big old job promise. And you've got to have
massive aangelism, you've got to have one on one evangelism.
You got to have it all. And man, we're we've
been trained and these soldiers of God for the last
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twenty years. And you know what we trained like more
I guess probably close to nine thousand now, pastors and
leaders mostly a lot of pastors, a lot of bishops,
you know, and we train these guys. Every single one
of our students come out with a passion for winning
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those they come out and they're just the most powerfully
you know, when they get out there in the street,
they win souls every like we had class. I think
it's a week and a half ago. Twenty people. That's
not very many people, right, but then go for millions
of souls guys. So I mean, I don't care if
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I trained twenty or if I train ten, whatever I train,
will go on winning souls after I'm gone, dead and gone.
My wife's didn't gone. Everybody here is and gone they're
gonna steal be winning souls and the people that they
train will be winning souls. I mean, it's it's the
biggest snowball effect on the earth. Really, you're nothing like it,
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because my people, my alumni, which is about nine thousand,
has turned into one hundred thousand, maybe anywhere from ninety
to one hundred thousand alumni that have been trained in
stealth evangelism.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know what, you know what a snowball effect is.
You know, you take a snowball and you roll it
across the keep someone picking up more and more snow,
and then you make you make it into a snowman. Well,
that's called a snowball effect. And God even prophesied that
very thing over me ten years before I got over here.
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He said, there's got to be a snowball effect in
your ministry.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
It was a a black uh profidence from uh I
think she was from which top falls and I can't
remember her name right, ohand but then this is going
to be.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
A snowball effect in your ministry. She's also the one
that prophesied the house that we bought when we when
we came here, uh huh, when we got over here,
and you've never seen that this place, but the the
old Did you ever see the old mission center. I
don't think you've been back since we built that, since
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you had the mission.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, I was in the house that would that you're
living in now, but before it burned.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Before it burned, okay, yeah, Well you got to see
the old place. It was wonderful, wasn't it. Yeah, But
we rebuilt this one that this house is, uh, it's
brand new as of two thousand and well. It took
four years after the fire that burned it down to
build it back. And in pree story's tall. There's a
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guest house across on the other side of the yard,
and that's where we put all the students. And then
we have on the third floor this place. We have
a thirty I think it's the classroom is thirty one
feet long and it's by sixteen or fifteen fifteen thirty
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one by fifteen, So it's a big about four hundred
and fifty square feet for a classroom, and it does
a good job with about twenty twenty five students and
we usually have four to five monitors that are all volunteers.
We don't have to pay them not a penny they
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get here. Some of them come from quite aways off,
they come from different cities, you know, and travel here
to be a monitor in our school.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Right Anyway, am.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I talking too much?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
No? No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I was.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know, I'm amazed, really and truly what And I
love that you brought up the prophetic word because the
prophecies that that, you know, people people receive, they just
don't put much value on them because they don't expect
and sometimes I think, you know, one of the one
of the things that we forget that we have access
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to by the spirit, is that the word of prophecy.
Now you know when we read this, when we read
the scripture, that's the true word of prophecy. It's ever
been prophecy. Uh, And it's.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
All the audience a word on that. Okay, yeah, go ahead,
as what you were saying, I'll give it. I'll give
a word on that.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But anyway, I love the fact that you were also
beginning to incorporate, uh, you know, some teaching and and
stuff that that leads people to the Holy Spirit as well.
A lot of your classes. When I get through with
the evangelism training them how to wind soles, then you
also step into the rim being getting them spirit field
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as well. And so boy, I mean you're you're you're
so equipping the saints that you send out, you know,
you make sure they're born again and then you're part
the blessing of the promise to them. Yeah, and it's just, uh,
it's just such a dynamic ministry and such a dynamic
flow of things. I just take my hat off to Tony,
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and you've been doing it for years and you're very
good at it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
You not much hair on the top anymore, a little bit.
I got most of it in the back. See.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Anyway, Fred, Uh, we're talking about the weapons of warfare, yes, sir,
putting it. Putting the weapons of warfare in the hands
of the saints. And that's what we've been doing since
we've been over here. God called me to as an
apostle to the nations. Originally over here they call me bishop.
That's just you know, they ordained me as a bishop
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in a bishop council, and you know, but I have
my actual calling is apostolic. So but shure, I was
a realtor before that. You know, I worked in my
church for twenty years in ministry, so I was well
trained when I went in the mission field. I had
no idea how well trained I was, but I really was.
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And you know, the technique of the soul winning technique
comes straight from God, didn't come from not one islelder
from me. I used to witness, you know, I always
witnessed in my life. I used to witness for years ago.
But see, it takes five minutes five to seven minutes
maximum to win a perfect stranger and ninety five percent
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effect close ratio. If you're, if you're, if you protect
our if you if you make yourself flawless in the
technique where you're, you do it perfect. You can't miss.
That's why we call the school do not miss, do
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not miss. That's a joke anyway, Dunamus is actually dunamous power.
So we do do a Holy Spirit class when they're
taking a class, that's done on the first the first
night that they're here, and uh it's after they've taken
the workshop and gone out on a practic colm those
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are all foreign the you know, the practical is a
foreign word, y'all. But that's uh practicalom is going out
and practicing what you've learned. And so they go out
witnessing into an area.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
During those classes, you win all kinds of souls. You know,
out there, all those people are out presenting the gospel
and getting better at giving it out.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
And so every.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Class you have, you're you're you're you're reaping a harvest.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Oh it's five five hundred to several thousand, you know,
it's going to how many people were training twenty people
will win about a thousand people in three days and
it's just four practical comms two hours each, but they'll
win a thousand souls. Yeah, And I mean that's unbelievable.
In the States, it is it is that you know,
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you know what, this technique works in the States, just
like it does here. A lot of people think it
wouldn't work, you know, because it's, oh, that's for the Philippines,
that's for a foreign country or something. But that's wrong.
That's a lie of the devil. I have never I've
never opened my mouth to anybody in the US that
it didn't lead to the Lord if I was if
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I was going to present the Gospel to him, I
never miss with it in the States. So if it
worked for me in the States, why wouldn't it for
you or anybody it does.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I've been doing it for years.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Here's what's happening right now. Absolutely, I'm shifting gears because
I am getting a little older, you know, seventy nine,
I'll be eighty this my next birthday, eighty years old.
But I don't feel like I'm eighty years old. I
just yeah, we just roll, roll with the punches, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
There, you know, there you go.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You just you just got the news.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I am having a taste market maker and that that's exciting,
and you feel better than ever.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Huh. Got to keep the car running, you know. So
they put a new battery in me.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So that's good.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But I feel great. I feel great that pacemakers. So
they said, I get twenty twenty more years with that.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I should be about ninety nine when it runs out,
and then I'll give me another one.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
That's good. Hey, listen, I'm gonna ask you how is
the how is the relationship between the US and the
Philippines right now? President Trump's has been doing a bunch
of stuff and changing things around, and and I.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Don't think people are aware the Filipinos that that are
not democratic, non democratic if they're Republicans, Uh, they don't.
They just roll with it. But the ones that are
democratic and they listen to all the fake news that
comes here, they're affected, just like they are in the States.
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If they've got to do their liberals, they're gonna they're
gonna act like a liberal and think like a liberal. So,
you know, but I tell them. I meet with a
bunch of old men down in tropic tropical lud and uh,
they always asked me how's Trump, you know, because they
know I'm a Trump freak, and I get to tell
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them all the time, and you know, I think some
of them have kind of come over to my you
know what I'm thinking, But you know, they quit quit
talking to me much about it. But they still treat
me and they come and have coffee with me and stuff.
But they know they're not going to convince me otherwise. Anyway,
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I lost some trans thought I.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Was that's not a problem. I was gonna. I was
gonna also ask you, you know, like, what do you
what are you personally kind of hearing from the Lord
right now? What what or what kind of things are
or is God kind of running past you? That would
encourage people, you know, First of all.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
The stealth evangelism program. This book. I just redid this book.
And there's another book, uh right here, But.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's okay, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Wait a while. There's another book. It's a training manual
for pastors, telling them what to do after they've trained
a group of reapers in their church. Now this is
the training manual for teaching someone how to win how
to win souls. Now this book, I'm starting to do
some testing with it. I'm want to give this to
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an individual like a doctor or some professional person. I'll
give this to them. There are Christians more again Christians,
and I'll say, read the read the manual, do everything
that it says to do in it. And it's got
a workshop back in the back, and do that. You know,
if if you if you don't get it the first,
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if you go through it and you do all the
workshop and you still feel a little weak on the
on your presentation, then do it again, because I don't know,
you know, if they're teaching themselves, like in the US,
if you get a hold of a book like this,
you can teach yourself how to win souls with this.
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It's amazing. It's got a workshop back in the back
to give you an example right here. It says, I'll
just read them, read something out of it. When when
you have finished the with the prayer, ask them where
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is Jesus? Now? Now, this whole book is full of
instruction about what to say. It's got step six, step five,
step four and so on. And so you can read
that book and then do the workshop and and it'll
it'll take you through the whole training. And it's just
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like I was there teaching you. Brother. I'm telling you
it'll work. God showed me that I was video video training.
I'm still going to do that, but it's going to
be my primarily for pastors for that too. For a
pastor to have it so he can show that video
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and train his people so he won't feel the least bit.
If he's in America, you know, he'll he'll have some
video training, and then he'll also have the books. But
these books by themselves can teach him how to win
souls and how to train his people. The two books,
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and see they're very small. There's uh, let's see, this
one has forty three pages. Forty three pages. Now here's
the key. How many of you could lay would lay
down your life for a couple of days, or for anything,
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for a person, for a for a soul. How many
of you would lay down your life for a couple
of days to learn this? So how many of you
want to win souls? That's another question. If you're there
in the audience right now and you want to win souls,
raise your hands so I can see it. Actually I
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can see, but you can see it. If you really
want to win souls, then I'm gonna have this available
sometime this coming year to everybody that wants it. And
there's eight hundred nine hundred million Christians born again Christians
on earth, so we're going to try to get one
in everybody's hands.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
So they can go to your website, which is doingmos
International dot org.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah or yeah they yeah, right now it's not available.
But I've got to get the other book finished, so
I have both of them, and then we're gonna I'm
gonna rein. I'm gonna read it, you know, a little
training man, my little pocket Bible that we give the
little pocket Bible. We're going to redo that into a
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kind of a little cheaper version so that we can
sell it. Put it with the book and the other
book we have put two of those little bibles in
there with it, and uh two Maybe I'm not yet sure,
but I think we're going to put four manuals like
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our two manuals like this in it, and.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Then you'll have some sort of a package deal.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Past manuals in there. But two of these because they
will need to they will need somebody to help them,
uh with the rehearse with the good, you know, because
they're going to be quoted. They're going to be using
that technique. You need a you need a soul winner.
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You need a soul winner and a soul so you
need two people doing this. And if you got two people,
they've got two booklets. You train two people at the
same time, yea each other. Each one of them be
training each other and back and forth they learn how
to rule.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Where you published this life on Amazon worldwide.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Absolutely, I want to get into everything I can get
it into, because you don't. We got to get it
to everybody. You know. One thing I do know, I
haven't ever been in a church where people didn't want
to know how to win souls. I've never been in
a church. I've never been to a full gospel businessman's
meeting in my life that men didn't want to win souls,
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but they don't know how.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
And there's lots of there, lots of plans, but lots
of everybody's kind of come and go. But the number
one reason people don't witness, and that's you listen to
me right now. The reason you don't witness is you
don't know what to say. The number one reason you don't.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Witness is because of fear of rejection. Okay, the reason
you have fear of rejection is because you don't know
what to say. Yeah, and if you if we, if
we give this tool to you, or if you get
this tool in your hands, whether you pay for it
or receive it, and you take it and learn it,
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you'll be able to win souls at the drop of
a hat. Everywhere you go. You can win your your hairdresser,
you can win your the guy, well, they will pump
gas over the U asked what they do here, But uh,
everybody you run into in the grocery stores and walmarts
and all the different stores that you go to, you're
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always working. You're always talking to somebody that you really like,
and they're very helpful to you. And then wouldn't be
nice that you could just start a conversation with him
in five minutes, the prayer of salvation five minutes. If
you're talking to a waiter in a restaurant five minutes
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and you actually what you do is you every time
he comes back to the table, you ask him questions
about it. You spend two and a half minutes just
developing a relationship with him. So you get to know
who they are. Where are you from? By the way,
where are you from? And just talk to them you
know how long you've been working here anyway, light conversation,
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no polity, no religion. Don't ever ask anybody what church
do you go to? See? In other words, you need
to stay stealth with it, and you can win your
waiters to the Lord. You can win or waitresses be good.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
We can't wait to get your books, so maybe we
have you back on after you get it a published
where you can where people can get a hold of.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
I've got to get that other one, you know, before
I'll start packaging.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Let me just let me just say we're about to
run out of time, so I'm going to uh, I'm
just I'd like to.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Fast for it.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, I'd like to pray over you and Cali right quick,
and then I would like to have you maybe give
us a closing prayer. So Father, I just pray for
for for Cali and for Tony as they minister in
your name and the Philippines and around the world with
this with this self evangelism. And so Father, I just
(46:32):
pray for the anointing of God to fall upon them,
the resources to come into their hands so that they
can complete the work that you called them to do.
And Father, I thank you for for their presence in
the Philippines, and I truly believe their slogan is win
the Philippines and win the world. And uh, those little
Filipinos go out a million different places, and uh, I
(46:56):
just thank God for the plant in that particular place,
because Father, we know that the gospel will go out
from there. And Jesus just took twelve twelve little disciples
and turned the world upside down. And Tony's already trained thousands,
and so we're just excited about that. And they're not
(47:18):
gonna they don't just go through one class and that's it.
They can continue to be lifetime presenters of the of
the good News. And we just thank you for that.
We bless their ministry, and we just blessed them coming down.
They're going Jesus' name. Amen. Amen, if you kind of
(47:38):
just pray over our audience and and bless them, and
and we'll close it with that.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Something that you hit on and I didn't ever get
to explain it is we do teach the Baptism and
the Holy Spirit in every class to empower them to
be witnesses in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and into the most
parts of the earth. We used to not include that,
but I started including that in the last three or
(48:09):
four years. And we teach the Baptists of the Holy
Spirit every class. They're getting baptized in the Holy Spirit.
Baptist Anthy says, doesn't matter what denomination they are, they
come because God God shows up in every one of
those classes. And they know that no matter what their
denomination is, they just need to be baptized in the
(48:31):
Holy Spirit, just like like you know, like Paul says
over in Second Corinthians or First Corinthians fourteen eighteen, he says,
I thank my God, I speak in tongues more than
you all. Paul says, in other words, Paul thought tongues
was good. He says tongues is goods. You know, that's
(48:54):
what they say in the Philippines. Well that's goods anyway, right, Father,
we just thank you for this opportunity to just speak
to whoever's listening. And Father, I just pray that the
things that were said will be will edify you and
build a kingdom and be a mighty thing in somebody's life. Father,
(49:18):
I pray for all those that are listening, Father, that
they will look forward to receiving the training the training
books later on when we start getting them out, that
they'll be able to train themselves to be soul winners.
They'll overcome their fear of rejection. They'll overcome that by
learning what to say. And Father, I just thank you.
(49:41):
This is so easy to win souls to the Lord.
And I just praise you for that. I praise you
for your technique. I praise you for your intervention in
all of our lives. How you love us and you
keep us. You are so faithful in loving us and
(50:01):
providing for us and giving your provision and your protection.
So we just thank you God for being a mighty god,
a god that that is impossible to fathom. Lord, and
your ways are not our ways. Your ways are higher
than our ways, and we just oh Lord, we just
(50:23):
thank you for being the Lord in our lives in
Jesus name.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen, thank you for joining us again, Tony.
We just appreciate your time. And uh morning, it's in
the morning over where. That's good.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Maybe a different program for you.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
We will last much time trouble getting connected up next time.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
All last night thinking of all that stuff to say,
that's good, you believe that, Yeah, well I have. I
have not prepared a message since I've been in the ministry.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
That's not. I go, I go to the I go
to whatever I do, I do it in the Lord.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
We're blessed by it all. And anyway, we're going to
sign off for now. And so, uh I'm just a
little reminder. Next week is Jim Murphrey, and I'm so
excited about the teaching that he's going to bring toward
toward us about so far and uh so we've got
some other guests coming down the road that are going
(51:34):
to be really exciting. So keep keep tuning in and
keep recommending us to other people. And we appreciate all
that you do in Jesus Mighty Name. But for now
we're going to say bye bye, hey bye bye, Love
you Amen. Listenings. If you enjoyed the show today, be
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