July 3, 2025 • 63 mins
The Gospel on media - Garry & Gloria share their journey in online and off presentation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I presonally enjoyed interviwing this dynamic couple from down-under.
You will enjoy their zeal for rightly dividing the Word and getting to others.
You will enjoy their zeal for rightly dividing the Word and getting to others.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Broadcasting from the Golden spread of Texas. This is the
Fred Hughes Show. With each episode we introduce to you
an inspiring person or message to help you grow and
unlock your potential in life. I'm Fred Hughes, professional photographer, pastor, teacher,
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and welcome. This episode brought to you by the faithful
partners of Decision Ministry. And hello everybody. Welcome to the
Fred Hughes Show. Once again, we're excited about being here.
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I have a lovely couple setting next to me as
you can see, and I'm going to introduce him in
just a second. I just want to remind you that
we have the Fred a web site that's available. It's
Decision one dot award G and try to put that
down here in the lower corner. And if you'll go there,
there's all kinds of good things for you to get
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in on, including a couple of books that I've written
and some other things, a voter's guide and a whole
bunch of different things. So avail yourself of that website
and you'll find some really good information there as well
as a way to kind of hitch you into all
of our multimedia and where we stream and all of that.
So avail yourself of that and you'll be blessed if
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you will. All Right, Well, I have Gary and Gloria
Preston and they are from down Under and so we
are halfway around the world. It's night, I mean, this
morning for them and this night for me here and
as we're putting this all together, and it's going to
be except for a super good fun time. And so
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we're going to talk about these guys. They do a
weekly Bible study online and so I'm just really excited
about kind of picking their brain a little bit and
kind of learning about what they what they're all into.
But to begin with, I want to just say that,
how in the heck did we ever get.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Hoitched up together?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
God?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know, I think I know, but I'm not positive.
I was looking online and I'm a photographer and by trade,
that's what I did for a living, and I believe
that I found Gary's blog and that that's a whole
new new deal. And he was going around taking pictures
in Australia and you know, kangaroos jumping around and flowers
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that I ain't ever seen before and all of this kind,
So I think that's how I found him, and then
I all of a sudden discovered a little later on
that he had You guys had hitched up with Karis
Bible study, which we had been involved. We haven't been
the school there, y'all actually went to school. Did you
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come over here and go to karras or is there
a place that you can hitch up with over there?
How'd you get hitched up with Andrew Warmock?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, Gary was actually listening to Andrew Womack from about
the two thousands. He probably can tell you the story briefly,
but he went to see him on the Gold Coast
when he came out to one of the churches. So
that's even before two thousand and then when Gary went
away to work on the other side of Australia in
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the mining area, he was wanting something to feed off
and his pastor recommended that he get the Gospel Truth
on a CD and it was sent out to him.
He sent off to America. They would send him out
once a month a CD with the whole month of
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the Gospel Truth on it and he would watch that.
So from early two thousand he was getting Andrew Womack's teaching.
It wasn't until we met in two thousand and seven
when I said to Gary, I think I'd like to
do some Bible college studies. And we went online and
we were doing online Bible study out of Colorado at
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the time, and then later on we did it through
the Gold Coast later on when the Gold Coast started.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, so good, that's so powerful. I love the way Gary,
you know, he wants to rightly divide the word in
your program that you have. Tell us a little bit
about your Bible study and how that all kind of
got off. I mean, how did you get from a
blog to a Bible study? I guess might be a
good question.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, well I'll jump in there.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
It was actually a vlog. A vlog.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, you've got to spell.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That b l o gen. So it's like a blog,
but it's not written its video format.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
First, if I.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Can try a blog was was was written down? It
was okay, and a blog is okay.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
He's a blogger.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Australia's a you're a blogger. That's what a right? If
I may, I just want to think Fred upfront and
so what an honor it is to be on the
Fred Hughes Show, thank you very much for this opportunity
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join with you to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.
And that's what we're doing this morning, this morning here
in Australia is spreading the word, the Word of God. Yeah.
And to answer Fred's question, we where do you start?
You know, we had such small thinking with regard to ministry.
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God had bigger ideas we just Glorian and I both
don't see ourselves as being certainly not super dupers. I'd
say consistently, I'm a believe it all, not a know
it all. I believe the Word of God. I was
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if it's hard to how to know where to start? Fred,
can you just rephrase your question again? Can you ask
me that question so I can zero in without telling you.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The Yeah, I was just asking kind of how you
got from the you know, the vlogging and how you
got into the use of the internet and you're doing
you're going down that road just fine, And that was
that was kind of what I was going to ask,
is you know, fill us in on just a little
bit of what how you got how you made them
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move from one to the other and kind of you know,
how you brought this beautiful sidekick in with and to
play here.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well. Even before we started using the internet, we were
doing Bible studies in our own home. We didn't have
a lot of people, but it was a regular thing
that we were doing every Sunday afternoon. When we shifted
from the east coast of Australia where we were living
at the time, to the West for work, we kind
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of had to stop doing the Bible studies, but we
started them again when we got over to the West
and got involved in a little church over there and
there were a few people wanting to do home studies,
so we did that and we again we had a
very small group. Now Gary was getting on to around
about the age of sixty seven and he'd been working
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for over fifty years in a very tough industry electrical
contracting and then in mining, and he was ready to retire.
So we decided that we would retire, get a little
caravan and do what all Aussie's with itchy feet want
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to do, and that is do the big loop travel
around Australia. So we got the caravan. We wanted to
go traveling, but unfortunately, in a very short period of time,
my mum got sick and she was living in the
southwest of Western Australia, in the same state where we
were at the time, so we high tailed it down there,
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and probably for the best part of two years we
were there, with only very small trips away. So I
was spending a lot of time looking after my mum,
taking her to her appointments, sitting with her, helping her
in the house, and all those sort of things that
you do as a family member. And Gary was spending
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a lot of time on his own in the caravan,
which we just couldn't help at the time, so he
had his own personal Facebook page. We weren't very cluey
on social media, and in fact, my son had a
number of years earlier, said look, if you want to
do something with ministry, get onto social media, and we
just thought that we didn't even know what a Twitter was,
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so it was really foreign to us, but we did.
While we were in the north of Western Australia, we
did go and find somebody that could give us a
little bit more insight into social media and what all
this stuff was about. So Gary started to develop his
Facebook page and he made these short little what he
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calls hooks, and they were little tiny messages in I
think he was using his Mac at the time and
using iMovie, and he'd put a scripture in there or
a short message, and they were really thought provoking, sometimes
really really thought provoking, and probably controversial to some degree.
But he did it on purpose because he wanted to
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try and attract the right people that he could connect with,
and that was primarily those of a similar doctrine, so
those that were Carris Bible College, Andrew Womack, Word of Faith,
those types of people. So he started to get a
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following of people who were liking what he was doing.
And then we thought, hey, we better do something and
make it like a separate page to your personal page,
and we tossed around a few name ideas and we
came up with Grace Faith Christian Discipleship because primarily Gary's
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heart is for discipleship. Our doctrine is the balance of
gray and faith where Christians. We wanted people to know
that this was Christian message that was coming out and
that our focus was on discipleship. And so that's how
Grace Faith Christian Discipleship came about. GFCD. So, yeah, do
you want to take.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That then, God, because Fred was one of the people
who are connected with through these hooks. There were many people,
but by them through their replies, I could actually see
because the Word of God says out of the abundance
of the heart, the mouth speaks, and through their replies,
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through their communication, I could actually see what their doctrine was,
whether they were of the same doctrine as Gloria and I,
which is the balance of grace and faith. Right, it's
not just grace, it's not just faith, it's a balance
between the two. And those people that I connected with,
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I invited them to join this new gf c D
or Grace Faith Christian Discipleship. At that stage, it was
just a Facebook page a page, and then we formed
a group and then you know, it sort of diversified.
But one of the fellows who I joined with, he
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was in actually in South Australia, which is a long
way from where we were, and he asked if we
could do a Bible study, and that tilt and I mean,
how do you do a Bible study? So I went
to the brains for us, that's Gloria, and said, how
can I do this Bible study? You know, when we're
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so far apart and Gloria said to me, well, there's
this can I hand back to you?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yes, yes, I was doing something online with a group
that was using free conference Call, which basically was you
could dial up a local phone number in your country
and it would connect you with someone else and you
could have multiple people on this one call. It was
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really clunky though, so if you spoke, you had to
wait a little bit before someone else could speak, otherwise
it would just be goblygush one on top of the other.
Now we persevered with that. We did three pies of
a weekend. We did one that covered the UK and
Europe and Africa, and we did two that went out
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to America at two different timeslots, so it could cover
the East coast and the West coast. So we were
actually doing three Bible studies on a weekend. Wow, with
free conference call, which was so clunky, but it worked.
There wasn't a lot of people, but we had people
in lots of different countries and not just jumping.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
There's there's you know, there's people like Robin Jennifer, Hello Robin,
she was on Free conference school. Who else was Rick?
And Elie bush.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Rick has been there from the very very beginning a bunch.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Of other people who who were with us, and now
this goes in the UK. Eleanor in the UK and
Eleanor there was Eleanor and.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I can't think of her, so.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
There was Yeah, So that developed and then at about
we had a break over Christmas and that's when I
connected with John Tripp and John wanted he was keen
to do the Bible study with us. I said, well,
we're just going to be starting up this new format.
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There's this new thing that's just come out called Zoom.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And this was COVID, So this COVID, right, so we
were all ready to go to do zoom. Gary had
the microphone, he had all the equipment necessary.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So yeah, on the technical side, if you guys are watching,
as I said, we're not super dupers. We've just been
doing it for a long time. If you're going to
do any of these things, you an absolute essential is
a good microphone, a really microphone. And you know, in
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Aussie dollars, I think we spent just over one hundred dollars,
which is a lot less in American dollars to buy
a road microphone that I'm looking at here. There's many
other brands, but that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Can I just add something in there, because just prior
to us going to do Zoom, we went to a
meeting in Perth, which is the capital city of Western Australia,
the state where we were at the time. And Karis
Bible College and Andrew Womack Ministries, which is located on
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the East Coast on the Gold Coast, was going to
Perth to promote their college and to promote Andrew Womack
Ministries because there was a lot of people in Western
Australia that wanted to do Bible College and so they
were going there and we went there just to see
if we could connect with some of those people. And
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just as we were leaving it was really great. It
was a very big crowd of people. And just as
we were leaving and walking out, one of the speakers
that was there walked up to Gary and prophesied over him.
And do you remember it, because I remember some of it. Okay,
you tell tell Fred and the audience what Kim young Husband's.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Prophecies over you was, we should give their heads up.
I've actually got it in writing.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, But at the gift of it was basically that
Gary was going to do a new thing, and that
he would be reaching people around the globe, around the
globe and ministering and discipling, especially young men in their forties.
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And every one of those things has come.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I've had a lot of prophecy over my life. When
I say a lot of prophecy, this was probably the
fifth or sixth time somebody had prophecy prophesied over me,
but it was the first time that anyone had drilled
in and been really specific, like I've had prophecy, like
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God is going to be good to you, a big deal.
God's good to everybody. You know. I didn't need you
to prophesy that over me. But this woman, Kim young husband,
Hi Kim, her prophecy was really really specific, and to
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date it hasn't been entirely fulfilled because it covered my
entire ministry career, but everything that she prophesied and in
order has so far come to pass back to you.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah. So basically, once we started doing Zoom, we then
we had actually changed to just one US Bible study
in one UK and we simply use those terms US
and UK because it's just different time zones here in Australia,
eight o'clock on a Saturday night we go live for
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Bible Study. We pick up UK, Europe, Africa, the other
side of Australia, and you know, so we've got people
Patrick in Uganda, Tom and Wendy in the UK. We've
had other people in like Nikitas in Belgium. So we've
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had lots of other people. We've we've just recently connected
with a lady who's in what's that Kosovo? Yeah, so,
and then on a for US on a Monday morning,
we go live at ten am, which picks up the
US on a Sunday evening, and so we have people
like Rick and Elaine and Cherry til Fred and John
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Troop and you know, for a while we had people
like Darren and Moses and a few others who have
We've had lots and lots of ministers come on the screen.
Sometimes they would stay for a long time, sometimes they
would stay for a short time. And one of the
things that we really encouraged was to help young or
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new ministries, like people who were just starting off in
their ministry. We try to give them a bit of
air time, you might say, by you know, presenting what
they were doing and that specifically, like we're talking about
motives and Darren.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's the part I like about you guys. You're so
versatile with the people that you have on your program,
and that really, to me is one of the one
of the big selling points of the of the whole
Bible Study is that you know, we're they're consistent, fairly consistent,
but not always the same, and that adds a little
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flavor to things. Get a little bit of different, you know,
from different cultures, from different you know, aspects of life,
and different age groups and that sort of thing. And
so that that's what makes I think it to put
it more in a family orientation, where you know, God
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really is we are all of one family anyway, and
to gather around the word. The word is for the family,
it's for all of the you know, young and old
as well. And I love that about your Godle study
because and I'm just such a privileged to be able
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to jump on there every once in a while. I can't.
I'm not as consistent as Sherry and a couple and
a couple of the others, but I love to get
there with you whenever I can, and it's just it's
just a refreshing part of my day if I get
to join you.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yes, I just wanted to mention a manual gentle. He
is just such a lovely guy. And Gary's actually had
the privilege of meeting him when he came out here
to Australia, so they spent a whole day together and
on the on the West coast. We've got a couple.
Now listen here, guys, you can just keep on ministering
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for a long time. We have Keith pastor Keith Wall,
who is nearly ninety seven and his wife Kathleen Wall
is eighty seven, and they are generals. They are so
precious and what comes out so there are.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Some deep wells, Yeah, some very deep wells.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
If I can just mention two things. The one is
where do you find us? Our central hub is our
web website. And you might think boring, boring, but it's
the central hub because we've got tentacles going everywhere, not
only around the globe but all over the Internet. God,
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it's been just so good to us and has to
develop this ministry way way bigger than what we could
ever envisage. Spotify you you couldn't, You're bound to forget
some So the central hub that links up everything is
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our website. If you go into our website and drop
use the menu and you can have a look in there.
There's blogs, there's videos, there's all sorts. If you want
it in written format, that's there.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Gary has a book there which you can Yes, so
if you go in there, it's g f c D
dots O r G.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Let me start again, g f c D dot O
r G dot a U. That's it. Gf C g
f c d in it Christian g f c D
dot O, r G dot a U. That's the central hub.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Okay, what was the second part of that last dot
org and then dot.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
M that's our. That's the central now our. Yeah, so
that'll that's all. Get that gets your access to everything
now if I can just yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it. Yeah.
So we have had a lot of people who have
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been on screen over the five years that we've been
doing the Zoom Bible studies every weekend, so we've amassed
quite quite a lot of Bible study over four hundred.
But the people who have moved on and it's you know,
do you have time to do everything? Because it's very
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time consuming doing a Bible study. It's a commitment, like
people come for a period of time. It might be
a matter of months or years to join us on
these Bible studies. And we are just so apprenticially appreciative
of it. And if I can single someone out, like
we have got a dear friend, Heather Reid, who was
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a big part of gfcd's Bible studies, but her ministry
has taken off for itself. But we haven't disconnected from
Heather like we've been, even though you don't see Heather's
face on GFCD. We were over in Western Australia only
a few months ago and we spent a week staying
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with Heather in her lovely new home at what's the
name of the Southern australind And at that time, Heather
has a ministry called Women of the Word, and I
believe she's got members of that ministry in the thousands now.
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And we could see the potential for turning this into
a podcast because at the moment, Heather's ministry is one
hundred on Facebook. Now there's a problem with with social
media and somebody this is not on a Garrier original,
but I'm going to tell you what I was told
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social building a ministry on social media is like building
a house on real estate that you do not own. Yep,
all right, that's great, that's this. This is big. So
it's really super important for Heather and you guys out
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there who are watching from the third dimension right now,
that if your ministry is on social media, you need
and you've got thousands of people connected with you, you
need to get their email addresses because you've got to
look at what is on the internet Internet, but it's
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not inside of social media. Because we've recently had a
few problems with Facebook wanting to get rid of GFCD,
and we've had to tread very carefully. You know, if
you're one hundred percent on Facebook and they decide no
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more GFCD, then that's the end of your ministry. But
we've God has given us the wisdom to collect email
addresses and have a database of people so that if
we were banned from Facebook, we could at least contact them.
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So we've got we've got various platforms probably I won't
try and list them more, probably about eight different platforms
that we minister on. And so also, if you've got
a website, a website is not inside social media, so
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your website becomes critically important. If people use your website
to access the platforms, then if one of the platforms
decides to block you because of your Christian contact, and
Jesus told us, you know, you'll come under persecution for
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the words sake, so don't expect that, Oh it's only me. No,
it's not because of you. It's because of the word
that you're preaching, that you're spreading. That you've come under attack.
But you've got to think ahead of them. So i'd
encourage you. If you've got everything in social media, yeah,
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continue that social media stuff, but think outside the square.
Think outside the box. What's on the Internet that's not
inside of social media? Email, email, website, website And I'll
just repeat our website address again, GFCD dot org, dot AU.
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Go and have a look at it. It's that boring
link that will connect you with all of our various platforms.
If you're looking on a small smartphone, then up the
top right hand side, there's like a hamburger. You click
on that that gives you the menu. Again, it's pretty boring,
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but it will give you access to everything.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
And also if you go to that site, you'll see
who the ministers are that are currently on GFCD when
we do Bible Study, and also those who have previously
been on, because if you go back to one of
the older Bible studies and want to listen to something
we've done, say two years ago, might have a different
minister on, so you can actually read a little bit
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about them, who they are, where they what ministry they have,
what they've made, maybe studied some amazing testimonies on there
from various people. So Gary and I have always believed
that it's not the Gary and Gloria show. You know,
this is God who's brought together a group of wonderful ministers,
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and together we present the Word to people to help
them to understand the word rightly divide the Word of
God so that people get the truth and not this
jumble of law mentality that puts people under condemnation. You know,
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we want people to be set free from that. You know,
God gave me a number of years ago a revelation
of his amazing grace and love for me, and that's
what I like to portray. I don't actually do a
lot of talking on the Bible Study. I leave that
to those people who are teachers live a communion message.
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We always start with a communion message. Greet everybody, start
with the community little sometimes it's just a scripture verse,
but we share communion together because we are family and
we just so believe that we need to put our
focus on Jesus first, you know, and then we believe
the Holy Spirit will just bring out through each of
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those ministers on the screen what really needs to be
highlighted for those verses that we've read. And yeah, it's amazing,
but it works, doesn't it. And then at the end
of the Bible study, we always have a salvation message
because we don't know whether somebody's just stumbled across our video,
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our live stream and is born again, or even someone
who isn't sure if they're born again, you know, like
they always wonder am I going to go to Heaven
when I die? You know, like I love Jesus, but
I've done all these bad things. Well they need to
be set for e from that mentality because God loves
you so so much. And yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Really love helping people. Sounds a bit corny, but like
this afternoon, it's morning year in Australia. This afternoon we're
going to be working with Heather. Heather read who I
mentioned before to create a podcast for her. So Gloria
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and I are both pretty pretty good with technical stuff
on the Internet. And it hasn't always been this way,
you know, as Gloria said, when we were first in
Western Australia and I was looking to retire from being
working a paid job as an electrician, how are we
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going to do this? God? You know, if we're going
to be in the caravan moving around Australia, how are
we going to do this? You know, we want to
continue with our Bible studies, but as our home is
continually moving, being in an RV, how are we going
to do it? And you know God had way bigger
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ideas than what we did. And you know it's really
really developed since then.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Can I just jump in and acknowledge my husband and
acknowledge the work that Gary does. He literally works on
gfc D every moment he possibly can when he doesn't
have to work on the house, if he's mowing the
grass or fixing the roof or you know, helping me
with a little chore inside, he is doing gf c
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D and he has been the one spearheading the growth
of this ministry because he's pushed himself to learn the technology.
You know, he pushed himself to learn how to use zoom,
and how to how to video edit and how to
oh just hold manner of things. As you could understand read,
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there's just so many things to learn.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Just jumping in. Sorry to interrupt, but I want to
give you an email address. If you need help with
any of this sort of technical stuff, then send me
an email. My name's Gary two hours and the email
address is g f C D dot so s O
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z O and so z o at gmail dot com.
I'll repeat that g f C D dot so s
O z o at gmail dot com. And you know,
if I can, if it's within my ability, I'll do
my best to help you set up your ministry, you know,
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tell you what you need, the items that you need.
That's pretty simple, it's really really pretty simple. But the
one expensive autumn and you know it's measured in hundreds
of dollars, but you'll need to spend one hundred dollars
on a good microphone. The rest of it you've probably
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already got. And yeah, yeah, and you.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Can spend an awful lot of money on you know,
buying equipment and all kinds of things that this this
guy is really the limit on being able to produce
the show. It just depends on what you're what you're after.
I was hoping that we would get into a little
bit of talking about how how you know, how you
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kind of figure out what kind of things you're going
to do because we do different things and you know,
some of the equipment and some of the services that
we have, you know, you both basically find those online
and there's a there's a great abundance. Actually, there's a
lot of choices.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Gary mentioned Zoom and I think I use a restream.
That's what we're on right now. Those are two good platforms,
but there are several more. I mean, they're they're they're
multiple things. You just have to find one that is
kind of like for the guys, it's kind of like
buying a shotgun. You gotta feel you find one that
feels good in your hand, you know, and uh, pick
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out one that you like, and that sort of thing.
The same thing with the podcast. Sometimes people don't you know,
they just don't want to be on screen. But they
have a good voice and they can talk, and they
can they can do stuff, you know, on the audio side,
and there's nothing wrong with that. Either there's some great
podcasts out there that people really enjoy a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I do both.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I do the on screen and then also the podcast,
and so, uh, you know, it's it just kind of
depends on your audience and who year after and what
kind of reach you want to extend, which I was
going to ask Gary, but y'all kind of touched on it.
Y'all use multiple services, and that's good. I think there's
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a question whether you just go solo and try to find,
you know, hit a specific audience and stay on one
solid place to be found, or whether to kind of
put your show in multiple different places so it's a
little easier to find and you reach a little different
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audience at each time that you do that. But all
of that takes time. All of that takes in, and
my advice is start with one or two and then
start growing it and add a few as you go
and expand as you go.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You're going to.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Get better and better and better. I guarantee you go
back and look at the first shows that I did,
and I'm almost bears to look at them, you know.
But you grow and you get better and you improve things,
and you buy a little new equipment, or you find
a new program that works for you, and it just
so it's so rewarding, and it's so impressive with how
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many places, I mean, how many people you can actually
reach on the Internet all around the world. And I
think that's what we have both discovered, is that we
can sit behind this little computers and we can talk
or literally.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Around the world.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
And maybe we have to have a couple of different
shows where some people are not asleep or you know,
but you know, if you do a late a late
morning and early morning in a late late evening, you
can pretty much cover the entire world with two shows
are too broadcasts, or you can just rebroadcast what it
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was that you did that morning and just do one
show but Eric two times. You know, there's so many ways,
and God really is using it. I can testify that
He uses you know, me in a lot of different ways,
a lot of other ministers that I know, including this
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wonderful pair of folks right here.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's a good point you raise. It's a good point
you raise. Fred. Do you get specific and target one
audience group or do you do what we do with
the FCD. I call it the shotgun approach. I target
anybody who's moving. If they're moving, they're alive and they
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need Jesus.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
The other thing that we often talk about is the
third dimension, and people sometimes don't understand what we're talking about.
But when we have a Bible study, we have you know,
four or five faces on the screen, and if we
weren't live streaming or sending it out, it would just
be what we call a closed Bible study. But because
we live stream and send it out, it adds that depth.
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And at the time when we were thinking up, you know,
what to call the Bible study and all the rest,
I've been doing three D printing in the library where
I worked, and so it just came into my head. Oh,
it's the third dimension, right, It adds a third dimension
to the Bible study. So we coined the term three
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D Bible Study. Well, that caused a little bit of
confusion because people thought it was like enough, but we
explained that it adds the depth. The people that see
it and share it on they reach people that we
can't reach. And then if they share it on again,
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there's that multiplication factor. So it adds the depth of reach,
is what we're talking about. So if you here is
using the term third dimension or three D Bible study.
It's simply because as we know that people who watch
it and think, oh, yeah, that was a great point,
I know someone who might want to hear that. Then
they can send it out.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
And depending on which platforms you get on, there's all
kinds of additions and movings like, for instance, I've got
to I've got a scripture that Gary wanted and so
you can click on that and it brings up the
scripture that he wanted to maybe read out. This is
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there's many many tools that can help you develop and
uh and and spread the Gospels to do a teaching.
There's just tons of ability that we have today that
that we didn't have in times before. And one of
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the things that that for me, that I think is
really important is for you to kind of decide whether
you're going to have whether you're gonna both of us.
Listen to Andrew Womock. He said, if he purposely sets
from in front of one camera and does a teaching,
and he does it all himself. Now now he began
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now nowadays he does have some guests on as well,
but uh, for the for the most part, his show
is still based on one camera pointing at him and
him doing him doing the full teaching. And so it's
kind of you know, are you going to go solo
or are you going to involve guests uh and bring
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in different people? Are you going to have a group
thing like like these guys do and and invite a
group of people to come and participate. And so there's
a lot of different formats and a lot of decisions
that you'll make along the way. But the big thing
both of us will tell you is get started.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Yes, make a stop, Yes going You know, when you're
doing it solo, it is how can I put it right?
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Now? You'll see me going like this because things that
Fred says prompt me to think, oh I need to
comment on that, and it's really good to I call
it bouncing off each other. And the other thing about
having guests on your show is it gives you time
out to get your thoughts together while while other people
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are speaking. And whereas if you're just doing a teaching
to engage engage the audience, you need to be speaking
like you're sitting down having a cup of coffee with
someone and just engaging them and having a live conversation.
(43:54):
It's really quite difficult to do that if you're solo
and you've just us got some notes beside you. Yeah,
and you can't just read your notes because our verbal
conversation has a different conversation to what you write down
in your notes.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
So but you still try.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Anyway, as Bread said before, it comes with practice, and
don't expect that off the bat you're going to be
have it all together. It's a learning curve, and it's
quite a steep learning curve. And over the the years
that we've been doing it, now we're you know, like
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you look back at the early stuff and I say, man,
how primitive was that? I'll call it primitive?
Speaker 4 (44:42):
And sort of like, yeah, it's ever evolving and there's
always something new that comes along that sort of takes
you to that next stage of growth.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Could we go to that Bible verse because this is
that you shared on screen? Could you share screen again?
Good the Bible Burst? Yeah, yes, I'll do my best
to read it because I know there's people out there
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that are watching the Fred Hugh Show right now and
who are stepping into ministry or stepping out into ministry,
or thinking about it, pondering on it. Has God called
you well? Do you know that it comes at a cost.
Jesus said this, and I was just reading this this morning,
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the cost of discipleship. Now, it happened as they journeyed
on the road that someone said to him, Lord, I
will follow you wherever you go. And Jesus said to him,
foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests,
but the son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.
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Then he said to another, follow me. But he said, Lord,
let me first go and bury my father. You know
this sounds quite harsh. Jesus said to him. Let the
dead bury their own dead. Jesus said to him, let
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the dead bury their own dead, But you go and
preach the Kingdom of God. Well, you know, Glory was
talking about the amount of time and effort that I've
put into GFCD and this Bible study that we do.
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But it's relatively you know where you at. Why are
you doing it? Are you doing it just to promote
yourself and make yourself to be a super duper, or
you're doing it because you generally believe in the great
commission go into all the world and spread the Gospel.
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It's got to be the latter amen. It's got to
be the latter. It's not about Gloria, it's not about me,
it's not about Fred. It's all about Jesus. And it
does come at a price. But it's worth it, Yes,
it is. It's worth the cost, you know, people, I've
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been working in ministry for thirty years now, since I
first got the revelation of my own salvation. I got
born again as a little kid in Sunday School, which
I can tell there was a lot more than thirty
years ago, but I didn't know what had happened. Nobody
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discipled me. I didn't get discipled and until I was
forty three years of age. And I can't really say
that it was fault of the church. Maybe I wasn't
ready for it. I just don't know. But I do
know that the lights came on for me when I
was forty three years of age, and since the day.
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Since that day, I've been working in ministry, consistently, working
in ministry and for the next I didn't retire from
a paid job as an electrician until I was sixty seven,
but in the background, I was working in ministry for
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those years. And it came at a cost. Because we've
only got X number of hours in the day, that
being twenty four and if you're putting the majority of
ours into ministry, then there will be a tangible cost.
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But it's worth it, and you've got to weigh up
the costs. You know, nobody goes to the Bible says,
nobody goes to war without weighing up the costs. And
we are in a war. You've got to believe it.
You got to believe it. This is not just mucking around, folks.
You know, at the end of the day, at the
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end of the day, we all die a physical death.
We all die. It's our choice when we die. God
has promised us with long life while satisfy THEE and
show THEE my salvation.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
On the other side, it seems to me, Gloria and
I have had this conversation that seems to me we
place physical death at a higher level than God places
physical death. Yes, we were, And I think I was
talking with a friend of ours just a few days
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about ago about this Who's and I said to him,
I think that the reason that we place it there
is because there's still this residual fear of going through
that physical death. But to me, it's just a stepping
stone through to the supernatural. It's just a stepping stone
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into the presence of the Lord Jesus. And when we
step through and this is I might say, well, you
haven't got your head around that properly, Gary, But this
is a conversation that Lauria and I had when we
go through physical death on the other side, in the
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heavyddly realm, in the presence of God, everything is going
to be just as tangible as it here as it
here is for us. We're not going to be like
clouds floating around. That's that's the way I can get
my head around it. And I can see from the
Bible the story of Lazaruth and the rich Man. Lazaruth
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was a beggar, right, and he died, And the rich
man was lived in wealth and all that sort of stuff,
and he died. And if you go into the Book
of Luke and read the story about Lazaruth and the
rich Man, this is two dead people. They were in
Abraham's bosom because Jesus hadn't descended and gone to heaven.
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But you can see that these dead people had the
five senses that we've got here in the physical realm,
that God sense heat. That's all the senses, they're all
available to them. So there's a lot to be learned
from that story about what it's going to be like
for us when we're in heaven. The fact that we've
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got the five senses and we're going to have a
glorified body. My friend was talking to me about seeing
his wife running towards him when he gets to heaven
running and her body was the body of I guess
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of her at about thirty years of age. You know,
it's like, wow, that's that's great. I mean, I know
that there no one's given in marriage in heaven because
Jesus explained that to who did you explain it to.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
The disciples?
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Actually I think he was talking to us. Sad you
see her, Pharisee you yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Are you there for it? Can you come back on screen?
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yeah, I'm here. Hang on in just a minute, let
me if thing gets back up there.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
I really do, I really do think that that this
is this is one of the things that you know,
both of us are interested in doing. We're interested in
bringing the gospel, We're interested in talking about the things
that are out in front. And I think it's going
to be fascinating how thin that little wall is between.
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But the word says, who if to be absent from
the body is to be present with the Lord. And
it speaks of that, you know, as being almost instantaneous,
almost almost like just one step across and you're already there.
And but we're going to have that glorified body that
you just mentioned, and it's probably not going to look
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like what we think is going to look like, but
it promises us He has lots of promises concerning.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
The main thing is we want you to actually know
exactly how to prepare to be there, to get there,
to make that step into his presence and be prepared
in life. And I want to ask Gary if he
would just kind of lead us in a really how
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you how.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
You do that?
Speaker 1 (54:20):
And then we'll come back and close the show. Let
me add one more little statement, and that is some
of you might want to do what.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
He did.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
And bring a Dane of white on your show with
and to sit beside you, because me and Gary don't
look near as pretty as we need to, so you know,
bring it, bring bring in some something that that little
extra show girl setting it by this might might just
help your your your podcast or whatever you get. But Gary,
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if you will, on a serious note, if you would
kind of close this out and pray for the folks
and and extend that invitation. But because this is the
main thing, the main reason we're here, okay, the main reason,
we're encouraging you to participate in one of these and
start one.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Thanks. Thanks for this opportunity. It's a real honor to
be here on the Fred Hues Show. Jesus said in
John three, John three, chapter one, he was talking to
a man named Nicodemus, who was the leader of the Jews.
And he said in verse three, and Fred, could you
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while I'm reading this from John, could you get up
on screen Romans chapter ten, verse if we can drop
in about verse eight, and we'll read through till about
verse twelve. But I will read, well, Fred's doing that.
I'll read what Jesus said to this man named Nicodemus.
He said in verse three of John chapter three. It's
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not verse not chapter one, chapter three, So that's John
chapter three. Reading from verse three. Jesus answered and said
to Nicodemus, most maturity, I say to you, unless one
is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
We're talking about heaven, we're talking about eternal life. Here.
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These are in red in my Bible. And Nicodemus said
to him, how can a man be born when he
is old? Can he enter a second time into his
mother's womb and be born? So basically, Nicodemus had no
idea what was going on. Jesus said to him in
verse five, most assuredy, I say to you, unless one
is born of water and the spirit, he cannot enter
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the Kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh
is flesh. That which is born of the spirit is spirit.
Do not marvel that I say to you, you must
be born again, right, you must be born again. So
that's verse seven of John chapter three. Verse seven of
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John chapter three. Now nico Demus couldn't understand any of this.
It was just all too much for him. Jesus didn't
explain it to him any further than that. He just
set out the requirements to get into heaven. You must
be born again. Now, if we can get Fred to
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share Romans chapter ten, where Paul the apostle Paul teaches
us or shows us how to get born again. John
chapter ten, just a minute, we'll go in. We jump
in at verse eight. I'll get it up on my
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iPad here too, sorry, Romans chapter ten, and I will
read from verse eight. But what does it say? The
word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart.
That is the word of faith which we preach. And
that's what you've been hearing this morning. That if you
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will confess this is verse nine of Romans chapter ten,
that if you will confess with your mouth the Lord
Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised
him from the dead, you will be saved. So that's
the one I want to zero in on it. Can
you see right in the center of the screen, Verse
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nine of Romans chapter ten, that if you that's you
will confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus. Right, that
means verbal verbally saying in words aloud, Jesus, I make
you my lord. I make this choice to make you
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my lord, and believe in your heart that God raised
him from the dead, you will be saved. So you
have to believe in the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.
So right now, I invite everybody who's watching out there,
you guys who are watching from the third dimension, to
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invite Jesus. That's you, guys who are watching from the
third dimension. If you haven't already done this, then I
invite you right now to make Jesus Lord of your life.
Just say this prayer after me. Call on the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. God.
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I call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus,
I call out to you. I've heard the good news.
I've heard the gospel of Jesus Christ, and I call
on your name. Right now, Jesus, I make you Lord
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of my life. Not my will be done, but yours
be done in my life. In Jesus name. I believe
in my heart that God the Father raised you from
the dead. I thank you God that I can now
call you my heavenly Father. I thank you God that
I am now born again, and I right at this
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time I have now received eternal life in Jesus' name.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen. Oh, let me if I can
get back to where I need to be here, excuse me, yep,
there it is. Sometimes I got too many bush buttons
(01:00:48):
to push. Thank you, Gery, that was so good, and
I hope that you would. We have a number of
prayer hotline. Let me put that number up if you
if you wanted to pray with somebody and tell them,
tell them how you've just received Jesus. That would be
so super to let us know that prayer line is
eight o six uh three four zero zero one six
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two and speak Spanish and English, but generally speaking, we
all speak English. For sure. You might have to shuffle
around a little bit to find you somebody that speaks Spanish.
Bull I think either we have both, So I call
that number and and and uh and ask for prayer
for anything that you want to at all and uh.
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That's just a way of us being able to connect
with you as well.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
So you availed that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Gary, Gloria, thank you so much for being on a
show tonight. I just love you both. Y'all are awesome
and also really down under. But if I might not
stand on my head and give you a big hug.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
You know, But isn't it awesome?
Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Though I had got his placing people all overwhelmed to.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Reach yes every night.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, and you find you find out there's good folks
all over the world. And that's what's exciting to me,
is there's people out there that love, that love the
same guy I love and that's Jesus, and we hope
that you do too, is But anyway, join us again
next week and we'll have another exciting guest where and
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Gary and Glory, thank you so much for joining us.
We love you, and we'll all wave goodbye bye bye.
We'll see you later.
Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
OHI Fred, thank you so much. Bye bye.
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you will. All Right, Well, I have Gary and Gloria
Preston and they are from down Under and so we
are halfway around the world. It's night, I mean, this
morning for them and this night for me here and
as we're putting this all together, and it's going to
be except for a super good fun time. And so
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we're going to talk about these guys. They do a
weekly Bible study online and so I'm just really excited
about kind of picking their brain a little bit and
kind of learning about what they what they're all into.
But to begin with, I want to just say that,
how in the heck did we ever get.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Hoitched up together?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
God?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know, I think I know, but I'm not positive.
I was looking online and I'm a photographer and by trade,
that's what I did for a living, and I believe
that I found Gary's blog and that that's a whole
new new deal. And he was going around taking pictures
in Australia and you know, kangaroos jumping around and flowers
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that I ain't ever seen before and all of this kind,
So I think that's how I found him, and then
I all of a sudden discovered a little later on
that he had You guys had hitched up with Karis
Bible study, which we had been involved. We haven't been
the school there, y'all actually went to school. Did you
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come over here and go to karras or is there
a place that you can hitch up with over there?
How'd you get hitched up with Andrew Warmock?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, Gary was actually listening to Andrew Womack from about
the two thousands. He probably can tell you the story briefly,
but he went to see him on the Gold Coast
when he came out to one of the churches. So
that's even before two thousand and then when Gary went
away to work on the other side of Australia in
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the mining area, he was wanting something to feed off
and his pastor recommended that he get the Gospel Truth
on a CD and it was sent out to him.
He sent off to America. They would send him out
once a month a CD with the whole month of
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the Gospel Truth on it and he would watch that.
So from early two thousand he was getting Andrew Womack's teaching.
It wasn't until we met in two thousand and seven
when I said to Gary, I think I'd like to
do some Bible college studies. And we went online and
we were doing online Bible study out of Colorado at
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the time, and then later on we did it through
the Gold Coast later on when the Gold Coast started.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, so good, that's so powerful. I love the way Gary,
you know, he wants to rightly divide the word in
your program that you have. Tell us a little bit
about your Bible study and how that all kind of
got off. I mean, how did you get from a
blog to a Bible study? I guess might be a
good question.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, well I'll jump in there.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
It was actually a vlog. A vlog.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, you've got to spell.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That b l o gen. So it's like a blog,
but it's not written its video format.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
First, if I.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Can try a blog was was was written down? It
was okay, and a blog is okay.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
He's a blogger.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Australia's a you're a blogger. That's what a right? If
I may, I just want to think Fred upfront and
so what an honor it is to be on the
Fred Hughes Show, thank you very much for this opportunity
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join with you to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.
And that's what we're doing this morning, this morning here
in Australia is spreading the word, the Word of God. Yeah.
And to answer Fred's question, we where do you start?
You know, we had such small thinking with regard to ministry.
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God had bigger ideas we just Glorian and I both
don't see ourselves as being certainly not super dupers. I'd
say consistently, I'm a believe it all, not a know
it all. I believe the Word of God. I was
(06:37):
if it's hard to how to know where to start? Fred,
can you just rephrase your question again? Can you ask
me that question so I can zero in without telling you.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The Yeah, I was just asking kind of how you
got from the you know, the vlogging and how you
got into the use of the internet and you're doing
you're going down that road just fine, And that was
that was kind of what I was going to ask,
is you know, fill us in on just a little
bit of what how you got how you made them
(07:08):
move from one to the other and kind of you know,
how you brought this beautiful sidekick in with and to
play here.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well. Even before we started using the internet, we were
doing Bible studies in our own home. We didn't have
a lot of people, but it was a regular thing
that we were doing every Sunday afternoon. When we shifted
from the east coast of Australia where we were living
at the time, to the West for work, we kind
(07:41):
of had to stop doing the Bible studies, but we
started them again when we got over to the West
and got involved in a little church over there and
there were a few people wanting to do home studies,
so we did that and we again we had a
very small group. Now Gary was getting on to around
about the age of sixty seven and he'd been working
(08:01):
for over fifty years in a very tough industry electrical
contracting and then in mining, and he was ready to retire.
So we decided that we would retire, get a little
caravan and do what all Aussie's with itchy feet want
(08:23):
to do, and that is do the big loop travel
around Australia. So we got the caravan. We wanted to
go traveling, but unfortunately, in a very short period of time,
my mum got sick and she was living in the
southwest of Western Australia, in the same state where we
were at the time, so we high tailed it down there,
(08:43):
and probably for the best part of two years we
were there, with only very small trips away. So I
was spending a lot of time looking after my mum,
taking her to her appointments, sitting with her, helping her
in the house, and all those sort of things that
you do as a family member. And Gary was spending
(09:05):
a lot of time on his own in the caravan,
which we just couldn't help at the time, so he
had his own personal Facebook page. We weren't very cluey
on social media, and in fact, my son had a
number of years earlier, said look, if you want to
do something with ministry, get onto social media, and we
just thought that we didn't even know what a Twitter was,
(09:29):
so it was really foreign to us, but we did.
While we were in the north of Western Australia, we
did go and find somebody that could give us a
little bit more insight into social media and what all
this stuff was about. So Gary started to develop his
Facebook page and he made these short little what he
(09:50):
calls hooks, and they were little tiny messages in I
think he was using his Mac at the time and
using iMovie, and he'd put a scripture in there or
a short message, and they were really thought provoking, sometimes
really really thought provoking, and probably controversial to some degree.
But he did it on purpose because he wanted to
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try and attract the right people that he could connect with,
and that was primarily those of a similar doctrine, so
those that were Carris Bible College, Andrew Womack, Word of Faith,
those types of people. So he started to get a
(10:34):
following of people who were liking what he was doing.
And then we thought, hey, we better do something and
make it like a separate page to your personal page,
and we tossed around a few name ideas and we
came up with Grace Faith Christian Discipleship because primarily Gary's
(10:56):
heart is for discipleship. Our doctrine is the balance of
gray and faith where Christians. We wanted people to know
that this was Christian message that was coming out and
that our focus was on discipleship. And so that's how
Grace Faith Christian Discipleship came about. GFCD. So, yeah, do
you want to take.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That then, God, because Fred was one of the people
who are connected with through these hooks. There were many people,
but by them through their replies, I could actually see
because the Word of God says out of the abundance
of the heart, the mouth speaks, and through their replies,
(11:39):
through their communication, I could actually see what their doctrine was,
whether they were of the same doctrine as Gloria and I,
which is the balance of grace and faith. Right, it's
not just grace, it's not just faith, it's a balance
between the two. And those people that I connected with,
(12:02):
I invited them to join this new gf c D
or Grace Faith Christian Discipleship. At that stage, it was
just a Facebook page a page, and then we formed
a group and then you know, it sort of diversified.
But one of the fellows who I joined with, he
(12:25):
was in actually in South Australia, which is a long
way from where we were, and he asked if we
could do a Bible study, and that tilt and I mean,
how do you do a Bible study? So I went
to the brains for us, that's Gloria, and said, how
can I do this Bible study? You know, when we're
(12:49):
so far apart and Gloria said to me, well, there's
this can I hand back to you?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yes, yes, I was doing something online with a group
that was using free conference Call, which basically was you
could dial up a local phone number in your country
and it would connect you with someone else and you
could have multiple people on this one call. It was
(13:17):
really clunky though, so if you spoke, you had to
wait a little bit before someone else could speak, otherwise
it would just be goblygush one on top of the other.
Now we persevered with that. We did three pies of
a weekend. We did one that covered the UK and
Europe and Africa, and we did two that went out
(13:41):
to America at two different timeslots, so it could cover
the East coast and the West coast. So we were
actually doing three Bible studies on a weekend. Wow, with
free conference call, which was so clunky, but it worked.
There wasn't a lot of people, but we had people
in lots of different countries and not just jumping.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
There's there's you know, there's people like Robin Jennifer, Hello Robin,
she was on Free conference school. Who else was Rick?
And Elie bush.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Rick has been there from the very very beginning a bunch.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Of other people who who were with us, and now
this goes in the UK. Eleanor in the UK and
Eleanor there was Eleanor and.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I can't think of her, so.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
There was Yeah, So that developed and then at about
we had a break over Christmas and that's when I
connected with John Tripp and John wanted he was keen
to do the Bible study with us. I said, well,
we're just going to be starting up this new format.
(14:56):
There's this new thing that's just come out called Zoom.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And this was COVID, So this COVID, right, so we
were all ready to go to do zoom. Gary had
the microphone, he had all the equipment necessary.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So yeah, on the technical side, if you guys are watching,
as I said, we're not super dupers. We've just been
doing it for a long time. If you're going to
do any of these things, you an absolute essential is
a good microphone, a really microphone. And you know, in
(15:34):
Aussie dollars, I think we spent just over one hundred dollars,
which is a lot less in American dollars to buy
a road microphone that I'm looking at here. There's many
other brands, but that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Can I just add something in there, because just prior
to us going to do Zoom, we went to a
meeting in Perth, which is the capital city of Western Australia,
the state where we were at the time. And Karis
Bible College and Andrew Womack Ministries, which is located on
(16:11):
the East Coast on the Gold Coast, was going to
Perth to promote their college and to promote Andrew Womack
Ministries because there was a lot of people in Western
Australia that wanted to do Bible College and so they
were going there and we went there just to see
if we could connect with some of those people. And
(16:34):
just as we were leaving it was really great. It
was a very big crowd of people. And just as
we were leaving and walking out, one of the speakers
that was there walked up to Gary and prophesied over him.
And do you remember it, because I remember some of it. Okay,
you tell tell Fred and the audience what Kim young Husband's.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Prophecies over you was, we should give their heads up.
I've actually got it in writing.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, But at the gift of it was basically that
Gary was going to do a new thing, and that
he would be reaching people around the globe, around the
globe and ministering and discipling, especially young men in their forties.
(17:30):
And every one of those things has come.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I've had a lot of prophecy over my life. When
I say a lot of prophecy, this was probably the
fifth or sixth time somebody had prophecy prophesied over me,
but it was the first time that anyone had drilled
in and been really specific, like I've had prophecy, like
(17:55):
God is going to be good to you, a big deal.
God's good to everybody. You know. I didn't need you
to prophesy that over me. But this woman, Kim young husband,
Hi Kim, her prophecy was really really specific, and to
(18:16):
date it hasn't been entirely fulfilled because it covered my
entire ministry career, but everything that she prophesied and in
order has so far come to pass back to you.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah. So basically, once we started doing Zoom, we then
we had actually changed to just one US Bible study
in one UK and we simply use those terms US
and UK because it's just different time zones here in Australia,
eight o'clock on a Saturday night we go live for
(18:55):
Bible Study. We pick up UK, Europe, Africa, the other
side of Australia, and you know, so we've got people
Patrick in Uganda, Tom and Wendy in the UK. We've
had other people in like Nikitas in Belgium. So we've
(19:16):
had lots of other people. We've we've just recently connected
with a lady who's in what's that Kosovo? Yeah, so,
and then on a for US on a Monday morning,
we go live at ten am, which picks up the
US on a Sunday evening, and so we have people
like Rick and Elaine and Cherry til Fred and John
(19:41):
Troop and you know, for a while we had people
like Darren and Moses and a few others who have
We've had lots and lots of ministers come on the screen.
Sometimes they would stay for a long time, sometimes they
would stay for a short time. And one of the
things that we really encouraged was to help young or
(20:06):
new ministries, like people who were just starting off in
their ministry. We try to give them a bit of
air time, you might say, by you know, presenting what
they were doing and that specifically, like we're talking about
motives and Darren.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's the part I like about you guys. You're so
versatile with the people that you have on your program,
and that really, to me is one of the one
of the big selling points of the of the whole
Bible Study is that you know, we're they're consistent, fairly consistent,
but not always the same, and that adds a little
(20:45):
flavor to things. Get a little bit of different, you know,
from different cultures, from different you know, aspects of life,
and different age groups and that sort of thing. And
so that that's what makes I think it to put
it more in a family orientation, where you know, God
(21:06):
really is we are all of one family anyway, and
to gather around the word. The word is for the family,
it's for all of the you know, young and old
as well. And I love that about your Godle study
because and I'm just such a privileged to be able
(21:26):
to jump on there every once in a while. I can't.
I'm not as consistent as Sherry and a couple and
a couple of the others, but I love to get
there with you whenever I can, and it's just it's
just a refreshing part of my day if I get
to join you.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yes, I just wanted to mention a manual gentle. He
is just such a lovely guy. And Gary's actually had
the privilege of meeting him when he came out here
to Australia, so they spent a whole day together and
on the on the West coast. We've got a couple.
Now listen here, guys, you can just keep on ministering
(22:04):
for a long time. We have Keith pastor Keith Wall,
who is nearly ninety seven and his wife Kathleen Wall
is eighty seven, and they are generals. They are so
precious and what comes out so there are.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Some deep wells, Yeah, some very deep wells.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
If I can just mention two things. The one is
where do you find us? Our central hub is our
web website. And you might think boring, boring, but it's
the central hub because we've got tentacles going everywhere, not
only around the globe but all over the Internet. God,
(22:48):
it's been just so good to us and has to
develop this ministry way way bigger than what we could
ever envisage. Spotify you you couldn't, You're bound to forget
some So the central hub that links up everything is
(23:09):
our website. If you go into our website and drop
use the menu and you can have a look in there.
There's blogs, there's videos, there's all sorts. If you want
it in written format, that's there.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Gary has a book there which you can Yes, so
if you go in there, it's g f c D
dots O r G.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Let me start again, g f c D dot O
r G dot a U. That's it. Gf C g
f c d in it Christian g f c D
dot O, r G dot a U. That's the central hub.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Okay, what was the second part of that last dot
org and then dot.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
M that's our. That's the central now our. Yeah, so
that'll that's all. Get that gets your access to everything
now if I can just yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it. Yeah.
So we have had a lot of people who have
(24:22):
been on screen over the five years that we've been
doing the Zoom Bible studies every weekend, so we've amassed
quite quite a lot of Bible study over four hundred.
But the people who have moved on and it's you know,
do you have time to do everything? Because it's very
(24:44):
time consuming doing a Bible study. It's a commitment, like
people come for a period of time. It might be
a matter of months or years to join us on
these Bible studies. And we are just so apprenticially appreciative
of it. And if I can single someone out, like
we have got a dear friend, Heather Reid, who was
(25:09):
a big part of gfcd's Bible studies, but her ministry
has taken off for itself. But we haven't disconnected from
Heather like we've been, even though you don't see Heather's
face on GFCD. We were over in Western Australia only
a few months ago and we spent a week staying
(25:31):
with Heather in her lovely new home at what's the
name of the Southern australind And at that time, Heather
has a ministry called Women of the Word, and I
believe she's got members of that ministry in the thousands now.
(25:52):
And we could see the potential for turning this into
a podcast because at the moment, Heather's ministry is one
hundred on Facebook. Now there's a problem with with social
media and somebody this is not on a Garrier original,
but I'm going to tell you what I was told
(26:15):
social building a ministry on social media is like building
a house on real estate that you do not own. Yep,
all right, that's great, that's this. This is big. So
it's really super important for Heather and you guys out
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there who are watching from the third dimension right now,
that if your ministry is on social media, you need
and you've got thousands of people connected with you, you
need to get their email addresses because you've got to
look at what is on the internet Internet, but it's
(26:59):
not inside of social media. Because we've recently had a
few problems with Facebook wanting to get rid of GFCD,
and we've had to tread very carefully. You know, if
you're one hundred percent on Facebook and they decide no
(27:20):
more GFCD, then that's the end of your ministry. But
we've God has given us the wisdom to collect email
addresses and have a database of people so that if
we were banned from Facebook, we could at least contact them.
(27:41):
So we've got we've got various platforms probably I won't
try and list them more, probably about eight different platforms
that we minister on. And so also, if you've got
a website, a website is not inside social media, so
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your website becomes critically important. If people use your website
to access the platforms, then if one of the platforms
decides to block you because of your Christian contact, and
Jesus told us, you know, you'll come under persecution for
(28:23):
the words sake, so don't expect that, Oh it's only me. No,
it's not because of you. It's because of the word
that you're preaching, that you're spreading. That you've come under attack.
But you've got to think ahead of them. So i'd
encourage you. If you've got everything in social media, yeah,
(28:43):
continue that social media stuff, but think outside the square.
Think outside the box. What's on the Internet that's not
inside of social media? Email, email, website, website And I'll
just repeat our website address again, GFCD dot org, dot AU.
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Go and have a look at it. It's that boring
link that will connect you with all of our various platforms.
If you're looking on a small smartphone, then up the
top right hand side, there's like a hamburger. You click
on that that gives you the menu. Again, it's pretty boring,
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but it will give you access to everything.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
And also if you go to that site, you'll see
who the ministers are that are currently on GFCD when
we do Bible Study, and also those who have previously
been on, because if you go back to one of
the older Bible studies and want to listen to something
we've done, say two years ago, might have a different
minister on, so you can actually read a little bit
(29:54):
about them, who they are, where they what ministry they have,
what they've made, maybe studied some amazing testimonies on there
from various people. So Gary and I have always believed
that it's not the Gary and Gloria show. You know,
this is God who's brought together a group of wonderful ministers,
(30:18):
and together we present the Word to people to help
them to understand the word rightly divide the Word of
God so that people get the truth and not this
jumble of law mentality that puts people under condemnation. You know,
(30:38):
we want people to be set free from that. You know,
God gave me a number of years ago a revelation
of his amazing grace and love for me, and that's
what I like to portray. I don't actually do a
lot of talking on the Bible Study. I leave that
to those people who are teachers live a communion message.
(31:02):
We always start with a communion message. Greet everybody, start
with the community little sometimes it's just a scripture verse,
but we share communion together because we are family and
we just so believe that we need to put our
focus on Jesus first, you know, and then we believe
the Holy Spirit will just bring out through each of
(31:23):
those ministers on the screen what really needs to be
highlighted for those verses that we've read. And yeah, it's amazing,
but it works, doesn't it. And then at the end
of the Bible study, we always have a salvation message
because we don't know whether somebody's just stumbled across our video,
(31:44):
our live stream and is born again, or even someone
who isn't sure if they're born again, you know, like
they always wonder am I going to go to Heaven
when I die? You know, like I love Jesus, but
I've done all these bad things. Well they need to
be set for e from that mentality because God loves
you so so much. And yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Really love helping people. Sounds a bit corny, but like
this afternoon, it's morning year in Australia. This afternoon we're
going to be working with Heather. Heather read who I
mentioned before to create a podcast for her. So Gloria
(32:33):
and I are both pretty pretty good with technical stuff
on the Internet. And it hasn't always been this way,
you know, as Gloria said, when we were first in
Western Australia and I was looking to retire from being
working a paid job as an electrician, how are we
(32:54):
going to do this? God? You know, if we're going
to be in the caravan moving around Australia, how are
we going to do this? You know, we want to
continue with our Bible studies, but as our home is
continually moving, being in an RV, how are we going
to do it? And you know God had way bigger
(33:15):
ideas than what we did. And you know it's really
really developed since then.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Can I just jump in and acknowledge my husband and
acknowledge the work that Gary does. He literally works on
gfc D every moment he possibly can when he doesn't
have to work on the house, if he's mowing the
grass or fixing the roof or you know, helping me
with a little chore inside, he is doing gf c
(33:46):
D and he has been the one spearheading the growth
of this ministry because he's pushed himself to learn the technology.
You know, he pushed himself to learn how to use zoom,
and how to how to video edit and how to
oh just hold manner of things. As you could understand read,
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there's just so many things to learn.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Just jumping in. Sorry to interrupt, but I want to
give you an email address. If you need help with
any of this sort of technical stuff, then send me
an email. My name's Gary two hours and the email
address is g f C D dot so s O
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z O and so z o at gmail dot com.
I'll repeat that g f C D dot so s
O z o at gmail dot com. And you know,
if I can, if it's within my ability, I'll do
my best to help you set up your ministry, you know,
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tell you what you need, the items that you need.
That's pretty simple, it's really really pretty simple. But the
one expensive autumn and you know it's measured in hundreds
of dollars, but you'll need to spend one hundred dollars
on a good microphone. The rest of it you've probably
(35:17):
already got. And yeah, yeah, and you.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Can spend an awful lot of money on you know,
buying equipment and all kinds of things that this this
guy is really the limit on being able to produce
the show. It just depends on what you're what you're after.
I was hoping that we would get into a little
bit of talking about how how you know, how you
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kind of figure out what kind of things you're going
to do because we do different things and you know,
some of the equipment and some of the services that
we have, you know, you both basically find those online
and there's a there's a great abundance. Actually, there's a
lot of choices.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Gary mentioned Zoom and I think I use a restream.
That's what we're on right now. Those are two good platforms,
but there are several more. I mean, they're they're they're
multiple things. You just have to find one that is
kind of like for the guys, it's kind of like
buying a shotgun. You gotta feel you find one that
feels good in your hand, you know, and uh, pick
(36:25):
out one that you like, and that sort of thing.
The same thing with the podcast. Sometimes people don't you know,
they just don't want to be on screen. But they
have a good voice and they can talk, and they
can they can do stuff, you know, on the audio side,
and there's nothing wrong with that. Either there's some great
podcasts out there that people really enjoy a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I do both.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I do the on screen and then also the podcast,
and so, uh, you know, it's it just kind of
depends on your audience and who year after and what
kind of reach you want to extend, which I was
going to ask Gary, but y'all kind of touched on it.
Y'all use multiple services, and that's good. I think there's
(37:14):
a question whether you just go solo and try to find,
you know, hit a specific audience and stay on one
solid place to be found, or whether to kind of
put your show in multiple different places so it's a
little easier to find and you reach a little different
(37:34):
audience at each time that you do that. But all
of that takes time. All of that takes in, and
my advice is start with one or two and then
start growing it and add a few as you go
and expand as you go.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You're going to.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Get better and better and better. I guarantee you go
back and look at the first shows that I did,
and I'm almost bears to look at them, you know.
But you grow and you get better and you improve things,
and you buy a little new equipment, or you find
a new program that works for you, and it just
so it's so rewarding, and it's so impressive with how
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many places, I mean, how many people you can actually
reach on the Internet all around the world. And I
think that's what we have both discovered, is that we
can sit behind this little computers and we can talk
or literally.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Around the world.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
And maybe we have to have a couple of different
shows where some people are not asleep or you know,
but you know, if you do a late a late
morning and early morning in a late late evening, you
can pretty much cover the entire world with two shows
are too broadcasts, or you can just rebroadcast what it
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was that you did that morning and just do one
show but Eric two times. You know, there's so many ways,
and God really is using it. I can testify that
He uses you know, me in a lot of different ways,
a lot of other ministers that I know, including this
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wonderful pair of folks right here.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's a good point you raise. It's a good point
you raise. Fred. Do you get specific and target one
audience group or do you do what we do with
the FCD. I call it the shotgun approach. I target
anybody who's moving. If they're moving, they're alive and they
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need Jesus.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
The other thing that we often talk about is the
third dimension, and people sometimes don't understand what we're talking about.
But when we have a Bible study, we have you know,
four or five faces on the screen, and if we
weren't live streaming or sending it out, it would just
be what we call a closed Bible study. But because
we live stream and send it out, it adds that depth.
(40:05):
And at the time when we were thinking up, you know,
what to call the Bible study and all the rest,
I've been doing three D printing in the library where
I worked, and so it just came into my head. Oh,
it's the third dimension, right, It adds a third dimension
to the Bible study. So we coined the term three
(40:27):
D Bible Study. Well, that caused a little bit of
confusion because people thought it was like enough, but we
explained that it adds the depth. The people that see
it and share it on they reach people that we
can't reach. And then if they share it on again,
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there's that multiplication factor. So it adds the depth of reach,
is what we're talking about. So if you here is
using the term third dimension or three D Bible study.
It's simply because as we know that people who watch
it and think, oh, yeah, that was a great point,
I know someone who might want to hear that. Then
they can send it out.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
And depending on which platforms you get on, there's all
kinds of additions and movings like, for instance, I've got
to I've got a scripture that Gary wanted and so
you can click on that and it brings up the
scripture that he wanted to maybe read out. This is
(41:30):
there's many many tools that can help you develop and
uh and and spread the Gospels to do a teaching.
There's just tons of ability that we have today that
that we didn't have in times before. And one of
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the things that that for me, that I think is
really important is for you to kind of decide whether
you're going to have whether you're gonna both of us.
Listen to Andrew Womock. He said, if he purposely sets
from in front of one camera and does a teaching,
and he does it all himself. Now now he began
(42:13):
now nowadays he does have some guests on as well,
but uh, for the for the most part, his show
is still based on one camera pointing at him and
him doing him doing the full teaching. And so it's
kind of you know, are you going to go solo
or are you going to involve guests uh and bring
(42:33):
in different people? Are you going to have a group
thing like like these guys do and and invite a
group of people to come and participate. And so there's
a lot of different formats and a lot of decisions
that you'll make along the way. But the big thing
both of us will tell you is get started.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Yes, make a stop, Yes going You know, when you're
doing it solo, it is how can I put it right?
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Now? You'll see me going like this because things that
Fred says prompt me to think, oh I need to
comment on that, and it's really good to I call
it bouncing off each other. And the other thing about
having guests on your show is it gives you time
out to get your thoughts together while while other people
(43:31):
are speaking. And whereas if you're just doing a teaching
to engage engage the audience, you need to be speaking
like you're sitting down having a cup of coffee with
someone and just engaging them and having a live conversation.
(43:54):
It's really quite difficult to do that if you're solo
and you've just us got some notes beside you. Yeah,
and you can't just read your notes because our verbal
conversation has a different conversation to what you write down
in your notes.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
So but you still try.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Anyway, as Bread said before, it comes with practice, and
don't expect that off the bat you're going to be
have it all together. It's a learning curve, and it's
quite a steep learning curve. And over the the years
that we've been doing it, now we're you know, like
(44:36):
you look back at the early stuff and I say, man,
how primitive was that? I'll call it primitive?
Speaker 4 (44:42):
And sort of like, yeah, it's ever evolving and there's
always something new that comes along that sort of takes
you to that next stage of growth.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Could we go to that Bible verse because this is
that you shared on screen? Could you share screen again?
Good the Bible Burst? Yeah, yes, I'll do my best
to read it because I know there's people out there
(45:14):
that are watching the Fred Hugh Show right now and
who are stepping into ministry or stepping out into ministry,
or thinking about it, pondering on it. Has God called
you well? Do you know that it comes at a cost.
Jesus said this, and I was just reading this this morning,
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the cost of discipleship. Now, it happened as they journeyed
on the road that someone said to him, Lord, I
will follow you wherever you go. And Jesus said to him,
foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests,
but the son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.
(46:00):
Then he said to another, follow me. But he said, Lord,
let me first go and bury my father. You know
this sounds quite harsh. Jesus said to him. Let the
dead bury their own dead. Jesus said to him, let
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the dead bury their own dead, But you go and
preach the Kingdom of God. Well, you know, Glory was
talking about the amount of time and effort that I've
put into GFCD and this Bible study that we do.
(46:48):
But it's relatively you know where you at. Why are
you doing it? Are you doing it just to promote
yourself and make yourself to be a super duper, or
you're doing it because you generally believe in the great
commission go into all the world and spread the Gospel.
(47:13):
It's got to be the latter amen. It's got to
be the latter. It's not about Gloria, it's not about me,
it's not about Fred. It's all about Jesus. And it
does come at a price. But it's worth it, Yes,
it is. It's worth the cost, you know, people, I've
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been working in ministry for thirty years now, since I
first got the revelation of my own salvation. I got
born again as a little kid in Sunday School, which
I can tell there was a lot more than thirty
years ago, but I didn't know what had happened. Nobody
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discipled me. I didn't get discipled and until I was
forty three years of age. And I can't really say
that it was fault of the church. Maybe I wasn't
ready for it. I just don't know. But I do
know that the lights came on for me when I
was forty three years of age, and since the day.
(48:29):
Since that day, I've been working in ministry, consistently, working
in ministry and for the next I didn't retire from
a paid job as an electrician until I was sixty seven,
but in the background, I was working in ministry for
(48:50):
those years. And it came at a cost. Because we've
only got X number of hours in the day, that
being twenty four and if you're putting the majority of
ours into ministry, then there will be a tangible cost.
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But it's worth it, and you've got to weigh up
the costs. You know, nobody goes to the Bible says,
nobody goes to war without weighing up the costs. And
we are in a war. You've got to believe it.
You got to believe it. This is not just mucking around, folks.
You know, at the end of the day, at the
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end of the day, we all die a physical death.
We all die. It's our choice when we die. God
has promised us with long life while satisfy THEE and
show THEE my salvation.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
On the other side, it seems to me, Gloria and
I have had this conversation that seems to me we
place physical death at a higher level than God places
physical death. Yes, we were, And I think I was
talking with a friend of ours just a few days
(50:14):
about ago about this Who's and I said to him,
I think that the reason that we place it there
is because there's still this residual fear of going through
that physical death. But to me, it's just a stepping
stone through to the supernatural. It's just a stepping stone
(50:38):
into the presence of the Lord Jesus. And when we
step through and this is I might say, well, you
haven't got your head around that properly, Gary, But this
is a conversation that Lauria and I had when we
go through physical death on the other side, in the
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heavyddly realm, in the presence of God, everything is going
to be just as tangible as it here as it
here is for us. We're not going to be like
clouds floating around. That's that's the way I can get
my head around it. And I can see from the
Bible the story of Lazaruth and the rich Man. Lazaruth
(51:23):
was a beggar, right, and he died, And the rich
man was lived in wealth and all that sort of stuff,
and he died. And if you go into the Book
of Luke and read the story about Lazaruth and the
rich Man, this is two dead people. They were in
Abraham's bosom because Jesus hadn't descended and gone to heaven.
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But you can see that these dead people had the
five senses that we've got here in the physical realm,
that God sense heat. That's all the senses, they're all
available to them. So there's a lot to be learned
from that story about what it's going to be like
for us when we're in heaven. The fact that we've
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got the five senses and we're going to have a
glorified body. My friend was talking to me about seeing
his wife running towards him when he gets to heaven
running and her body was the body of I guess
(52:33):
of her at about thirty years of age. You know,
it's like, wow, that's that's great. I mean, I know
that there no one's given in marriage in heaven because
Jesus explained that to who did you explain it to.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
The disciples?
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Actually I think he was talking to us. Sad you
see her, Pharisee you yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Are you there for it? Can you come back on screen?
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yeah, I'm here. Hang on in just a minute, let
me if thing gets back up there.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
I really do, I really do think that that this
is this is one of the things that you know,
both of us are interested in doing. We're interested in
bringing the gospel, We're interested in talking about the things
that are out in front. And I think it's going
to be fascinating how thin that little wall is between.
(53:30):
But the word says, who if to be absent from
the body is to be present with the Lord. And
it speaks of that, you know, as being almost instantaneous,
almost almost like just one step across and you're already there.
And but we're going to have that glorified body that
you just mentioned, and it's probably not going to look
(53:50):
like what we think is going to look like, but
it promises us He has lots of promises concerning.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
The main thing is we want you to actually know
exactly how to prepare to be there, to get there,
to make that step into his presence and be prepared
in life. And I want to ask Gary if he
would just kind of lead us in a really how
(54:18):
you how.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
You do that?
Speaker 1 (54:20):
And then we'll come back and close the show. Let
me add one more little statement, and that is some
of you might want to do what.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
He did.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
And bring a Dane of white on your show with
and to sit beside you, because me and Gary don't
look near as pretty as we need to, so you know,
bring it, bring bring in some something that that little
extra show girl setting it by this might might just
help your your your podcast or whatever you get. But Gary,
(54:52):
if you will, on a serious note, if you would
kind of close this out and pray for the folks
and and extend that invitation. But because this is the
main thing, the main reason we're here, okay, the main reason,
we're encouraging you to participate in one of these and
start one.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Thanks. Thanks for this opportunity. It's a real honor to
be here on the Fred Hues Show. Jesus said in
John three, John three, chapter one, he was talking to
a man named Nicodemus, who was the leader of the Jews.
And he said in verse three, and Fred, could you
(55:34):
while I'm reading this from John, could you get up
on screen Romans chapter ten, verse if we can drop
in about verse eight, and we'll read through till about
verse twelve. But I will read, well, Fred's doing that.
I'll read what Jesus said to this man named Nicodemus.
He said in verse three of John chapter three. It's
(55:59):
not verse not chapter one, chapter three, So that's John
chapter three. Reading from verse three. Jesus answered and said
to Nicodemus, most maturity, I say to you, unless one
is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
We're talking about heaven, we're talking about eternal life. Here.
(56:20):
These are in red in my Bible. And Nicodemus said
to him, how can a man be born when he
is old? Can he enter a second time into his
mother's womb and be born? So basically, Nicodemus had no
idea what was going on. Jesus said to him in
verse five, most assuredy, I say to you, unless one
is born of water and the spirit, he cannot enter
(56:44):
the Kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh
is flesh. That which is born of the spirit is spirit.
Do not marvel that I say to you, you must
be born again, right, you must be born again. So
that's verse seven of John chapter three. Verse seven of
(57:05):
John chapter three. Now nico Demus couldn't understand any of this.
It was just all too much for him. Jesus didn't
explain it to him any further than that. He just
set out the requirements to get into heaven. You must
be born again. Now, if we can get Fred to
(57:27):
share Romans chapter ten, where Paul the apostle Paul teaches
us or shows us how to get born again. John
chapter ten, just a minute, we'll go in. We jump
in at verse eight. I'll get it up on my
(57:48):
iPad here too, sorry, Romans chapter ten, and I will
read from verse eight. But what does it say? The
word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart.
That is the word of faith which we preach. And
that's what you've been hearing this morning. That if you
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will confess this is verse nine of Romans chapter ten,
that if you will confess with your mouth the Lord
Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised
him from the dead, you will be saved. So that's
the one I want to zero in on it. Can
you see right in the center of the screen, Verse
(58:31):
nine of Romans chapter ten, that if you that's you
will confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus. Right, that
means verbal verbally saying in words aloud, Jesus, I make
you my lord. I make this choice to make you
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my lord, and believe in your heart that God raised
him from the dead, you will be saved. So you
have to believe in the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.
So right now, I invite everybody who's watching out there,
you guys who are watching from the third dimension, to
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invite Jesus. That's you, guys who are watching from the
third dimension. If you haven't already done this, then I
invite you right now to make Jesus Lord of your life.
Just say this prayer after me. Call on the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. God.
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I call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus,
I call out to you. I've heard the good news.
I've heard the gospel of Jesus Christ, and I call
on your name. Right now, Jesus, I make you Lord
(59:59):
of my life. Not my will be done, but yours
be done in my life. In Jesus name. I believe
in my heart that God the Father raised you from
the dead. I thank you God that I can now
call you my heavenly Father. I thank you God that
I am now born again, and I right at this
(01:00:20):
time I have now received eternal life in Jesus' name.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen. Oh, let me if I can
get back to where I need to be here, excuse me, yep,
there it is. Sometimes I got too many bush buttons
(01:00:48):
to push. Thank you, Gery, that was so good, and
I hope that you would. We have a number of
prayer hotline. Let me put that number up if you
if you wanted to pray with somebody and tell them,
tell them how you've just received Jesus. That would be
so super to let us know that prayer line is
eight o six uh three four zero zero one six
(01:01:14):
two and speak Spanish and English, but generally speaking, we
all speak English. For sure. You might have to shuffle
around a little bit to find you somebody that speaks Spanish.
Bull I think either we have both, So I call
that number and and and uh and ask for prayer
for anything that you want to at all and uh.
(01:01:37):
That's just a way of us being able to connect
with you as well.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
So you availed that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Gary, Gloria, thank you so much for being on a
show tonight. I just love you both. Y'all are awesome
and also really down under. But if I might not
stand on my head and give you a big hug.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
You know, But isn't it awesome?
Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Though I had got his placing people all overwhelmed to.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Reach yes every night.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, and you find you find out there's good folks
all over the world. And that's what's exciting to me,
is there's people out there that love, that love the
same guy I love and that's Jesus, and we hope
that you do too, is But anyway, join us again
next week and we'll have another exciting guest where and
(01:02:32):
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seven o'clock you Central time, USA, and we brought rebroadcast
it from a whole bunch of different places there. But
wherever you're listening to, ring those little bells or subscribe
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get the word out. So again, thank you for joining us,
Gary and Glory, thank you so much for joining us.
We love you, and we'll all wave goodbye bye bye.
We'll see you later.
Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
OHI Fred, thank you so much. Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
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