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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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let me just introduce my guest right now. Rhino is
an old friend. He's been on my program before and
I love that. But he's got his daughter with him,
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uh Eva, and she's Eva, and she is a beautiful lady.
It's like her mother, gorgeous and so we are just
excited about having Avan Rhino with us today today. And uh,
we're gonna find out a little bit about what's going
on in Italy, I hope. And so we had a
little challenge getting everything set up, and it turns out
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it was on my end. Out theirs, and so they
worked real hard and I just sat back and did
nothing until I finally figured out what button I had
pushed the wrong way. So anyway, we got it going now.
So welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We appreciate you being here.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
We're honored to be on a show, and we know
we are honor to share with you what God is
doing here in Italy, in our beautiful region, which is
if you imagine Italy like a boot, we are to heal.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So the best next next to a big golf over there.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Right, beautiful tasty food and beautiful people.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Annoying in food.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Annoying in the food might be a friend that I
greet you after some years. I it's very pressure to
see you again. I'm so good to see you again.
Thank you for this invitation. We speak about experience because
the principal attractive of a region is the food the sea.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I say this biblically speaking.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And when you eat the food and not in food
a region, you perceive a night and praise God.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Like both says when you.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Drink, praise God, so you can receive the experience in
our region is the same.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
We invited a lot of people around the nations to
come here.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yes, it's like a promise land and listen.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Right right across the water from you is what me
a geographical thing is that Croatia or Okay, I couldn't
remember exactly what right across from you, but anyway that
that that's cool, all right, all right, Well, so what
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I want to know is in what my audience really
wants to know is kind of what's going on in
the spiritual ram in Italy and how are things going?
You know, we perceive each other around the world a
little different, and you know, we have different customs and
we have different you know, regions, and things are going
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on in differently in different areas, and so what we
want to know is just kind of how what's God saying,
How's God moving among you? How's your ministry doing? And
so I just kind of give us a little overall
about about what's God doing and how He's moving in
your ministry and in your life right now.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, So God lately spoke to our church about harvesting
some souls. You know, we we really work hard and
blend seeds throughout the years, talking with people evangelized, doing
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one on one conversation, and I think it's now time
to see the harvest of God because we can really
see people hungry for Him and what we experienced that
what we are seeing and the people need a father,
a father figure, because now it's a time as the
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Bible says that he will turn the hearts of the
sons towards the heart of the Father. So I think
this is the time where God wants a connection and
he wants to move in people's life that are ready
to you know, see his power and feel his presence.
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We are working as church. We had the privilege to
be called by a reginal TV and they offered the
pastor a TV show that it's called Start Again from God.
And it's been a beautiful and experience because he invites
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regular people just be that are a businessman, businesswoman, uh,
their work in all kinds of places, and he does
an interview. Uh. They talk about their lives, their job
and then he connect that with the world of God.
So then there's like a message that can talk about
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the God through the workplace, God in your life, in
your job, in your relationships. You know, some some kind
of things they're really matter, you know, things that people
can understand. And we're having a really really good feedback
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from people because now some when he walks in some
places in the city, people recognize him and this, uh,
this is you know, something that we can to attract people,
to start a conversation and to talk about God, which
is our kind of obsession. You can say that like
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talk about God in every situation, starting from our job places,
mainly because it's where people spend the most time of
their day. And then we have a radio in the church,
a web radio twenty four seven with music Spanish, Italian,
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English music with short messages and you know, encouraging messages.
And we work in the visiting the neighborhood, the community
to meet people in their workplaces, in the streets, you know,
just talk with them, start a conversation, ask them if
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they want to pray, and ultimately they are very their
heart is softer because they won't prayer. Like everywhere we
go if we ask people, can I pray for you?
Even in the middle of a coffee shop where people
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are just you know, taking a coffee, relaxing, chilling by themselves.
If we start a conversation, we kind of always ended
up praying for them. So God is really giving us
you know power and his s kindom and authority to
be you know seen this time and the pastor is
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writing a book that it's called Meet Jesus that he
want to use to reach businessmen because often businessmen cannot
come into church because they're always busy and they're always working,
and businessmen are in his heart. He always preach about
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uh work and what you can do on your job place.
So this is what is after. We praying also for
a new building because we need that because as we
are expanding as a church, we need more space. So
if you guys want to pray for us to because
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we with a TV show with the radio. We often
because we're Italian and we everything revolve around food. For us,
we often like to eat.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Together gospel table ministry ministry.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
The pastor loves to uh, you know, have discipleship with
the new people in the church. And often this happened
around a table uh, you know where where is intimate
like the Jesus did uh at his time because when
you share food and you share table, you share an intimacy,
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a connection and you can feel free to you know,
talk about God and people are relaxed because you know
they have an amazing food and they can easily open
their heart and so we need more space and a
bigger building. He is also a police shaplain and he
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worked with a lot of police officer because ultimately in
le the susicide rate, it's rising. And you know, this
is said because people are depressed. They don't know why
they have, you know, to work, work, work, and never
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get anything. Maybe they feel so alone, they don't know
their purpose in life. So suicidal rating is really sky rocking.
And the pastor is praying and he's connected with many
police officers and we really are seeing the move of
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God in the neighborhood. You know, we're not going Yeah,
the Kingdom of God is moving and you know, as
the Bible said, uh, your neighbor is the person next
to you that you should share the gospel with. And
that's what we're doing. So we're really seeing the move
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of the move God. A couple ways a go, Uh,
some people heard music from the church outside in the
street and they decided to come in and they said,
you know, the music was kind of nice and we
were curious and we just wanted, you know, to know
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what is this place. So God is using kind of
everything that we have, even if we don't have much,
He's using it all. So we are grateful. We've seen
a powerful mood of God, and as as people in
the church members, more often we are receiving visions prophetic
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word for the church. You know, once you're open and
you are hungry for God, he just moves so quick
and he tells you go there, do that, do this,
and you're if you're willing to do that, you can
really see the hands of that upon you always and everywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, you know, one of the things I love the
fact that Pastor's got the heart for business community, and
that just demonstrates to me that he's reaching out into
his community and he has a specific goal and got
to place some important things on that. I'm just encouraging
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to prophesy over those people. The business world is hungry
for the prophetic, and so I stirred that gift up
in him and just say that's how that may be
one of your roots into where you want to get to.
But I love you guys have been doing radio and music.
I know your mom sings. I don't know about you.
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Do you sing too?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yes, I too.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So y'all are blessed, you know, to be able to
have lovely voices. And your dad has just been on
the radio for a long time. Like I said, he's
he's beginning to get pretty noted and he's he's had
a lot of really high level people on his on
his podcast and his show. Yes, and so I'm excited
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about that. But I just wanted to kind of stir
to encourage you both because I really believe that there
there are some great things coming from this ministry. And
we've watched from outside and I have to I have
to get the interpretation sometime over on my stream, you know,
to get it figured out what's going on. But you
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guys are movers and shakers and have been for a
long time, and uh, and we've been connected. I've been
connected with your dad for a good while now. But
I can just testify that your ministry is moving, is
doing great things for the Lord. And I just want
to cut you guys loose and let you continue to share,
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you know, about what's going on and what's happening. So
I'm going to move my little self out of the way,
but I just wanted to tell you that prophetically, I
think you're headed in the right direction. Pastor and I
really believe that God's doing great work.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Through you and in you.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Yeah, yeah, thank you,
thank you. I know I remember I received some years ago.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
You're blessing about your perfect words from you if from
your wife. I appreciate very much your love for our ministry,
and in this time I feel heart that you are
a great man of God with a sensitive to the
work of God around the nation. So I bless you,
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my friend, brother Fred, with your wife, because I perceive
that this is the way to spread out the Gospel
through instruments media where we have, for example, EVA speak
about television radio. I can imagine some months ago to
make a program television program in a regional.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
TV.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But God opened door when we I I am. I
learned that. I learned that we are, we are. We
have the key. The key to open door, uh is
the word of God. When we declared the decree. The
word of God is like a key that you open
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the heart of the people. And so one day this
business man said to me, a reverend Cassini, h, do
you want to make a problem television problem? I say, oh,
my gosh, I surely absolutely so. In this time we
see the hand of God. They opened the door open
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harder people to make a lot of things. This is
the right time that I perceive my heart, my dear
friend Fred, to manifest the wisdom God through everything that
we have in the heinds in Hollends, readio, old television, everything.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, yeah, this is the right time. Yes.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I remember when the more the kid said to Queen Esther,
probably this is the time that you be called to Maybe.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You're born for such a time as Yes.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yes, and we realize this, Uh in a few days,
we are perceiving that God opened door for a new
location because we are more space for realizer studios, for radio,
for television. Uh, to to make activities of a disciple.
Shep with younger generation.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
We are.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I am a man of God, of proximity. I walk
on the street, I speak about Jesus, I pray, I
bless and people receive because UH perceive in their hearts.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
The love of God. Sometimes I UH give a huge
big hug. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Oh yes, they only need a father figure, which is
something that lack a lot in our community, I think
kind of all the world right now, and so people
really need to change their image about God and to
see him ready to you know, be there for them,
be next to them, because maybe the image that they
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have is distorted by their wrong father figure, so they
perceive God as far and not interested in their lives
or in their problems. But what we are doing is
telling and sharing that God is a father, a loving father,
a good father, someone that is relatable, someone that is
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there for you to pick you up when you're down,
to give you a purpose in life, to really not
just be alive, but to live in the purpose that
He already has for you.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I have seen another miracle, very miracle in Italy. For example,
God gave to me a vision to put together minstress.
So God passes Italian pastor from enough to solve Italy.
It's another miracle. I manage moderate this team of uh yes,
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different nominations passes. The name of this coalition, Apostolic prophetic
coalition is coin Onia UH International, Apostoric Colony International. It's
a great miracle in Italy. You can see that Italy, Uh.
We we have uh territorial spirits like mafia spirital mafia
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territorial spirit like mafia. For example. You can mention, but
the Saint Patron of Italy is St. Francis that it
made up a vote of poverty. So we must break
these strong goals in Italy and to give us to
declare a degree that the church in Italy uh with
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a spirit of generosity open to bless the church and
to to to certain freedom spirital Console. But to to
stay in the in the guiding of Holy Spirit. Because
it's not easy, but you can imagine we are. We
are in Italy, you know, the center of a great religion.
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But we realize the powerful annoying of Holy Spirit that
break the joke, and we were moving with the with
the Holy Spirit, the powerful Holy Spirit anointing upon us
to to to the work, to see miracles through passes,
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through churches.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Relationship.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Probably it's not possible some years ago, but now this
is the time and the garden moving in a with
with a powerful way and put together ministries with the
vision to to bless this nation Italy, Europe. Italy is
well connected with with Europe. It's very important that the
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revival come down in Italy and in the same time
they can spread out this spread up the Europe. We
are prayed for your President Trump, because we receive prophetic words.
There is a connection, relationship through and Georgia Meloney as
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Prime Minister. And yeah, we pray for this because we
we we see this time of God to put a
cyrus in USA. We have a Queen Esther in Italy,
so I can imagine that God has prepared a lot
of things, amazing things for the church in Italy. We
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are involved. We are coming in in this wave of
the Holy Spirit. We we are in bari Uh City.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
With a scene, a lot of tourists.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
We want to be part of this way. Yeah, you know,
I've been recently in Gran Canaria to the Canary Island
and they are connected with Spain and we were talking
with this pastor. They had a meeting in Spain with
other pastors and they praying for the same things. Revival
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it's coming. They feel the same revival is coming from Europe.
So now it's time for Europe to wake up because
people are being in their slumber for too long. Now
it's time to you know, raise our voices and walk
in the authority that God has given us. So we're
really seeing the movement of God after years of prophecy,
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because you know, we are walking in the words of
knowledge and the prophecies that God gave us many years ago.
Like many years ago, a lot of pastors and prophets
came from America, Africa, India, everywhere everywhere, and they told
the pastor, you're going to have a TV show. You're
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going to start getting famous, not up for the fame's sake,
but you know, to make Jesus famous. So they say
you're going to have a platform. You're going to reach
the people. You know, and years ago he was kind
of crazy because we were just a small church doing
our work. And but we took this words we make
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it ours, we great and we started work. Because when
you start doing what you can do, God always come
in and he do the rest. You know, the miracle
part is up to him. But you got to move.
You don't have to stay like there. You gotta move.
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You got to walk and start going outside. Don't be
afraid to spread the gospel. Just sharing your testimony, even
that is simple and really, you know what matter for
people because nobody can can say it's not true. You know,
it's something that happened to me. So if I shared
something like that and or we have a word of knowledge, ah,
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that was it was really you know, making the difference. Uh,
moving with the gift from the spirits, because when when
you can have that, people really believe you. You know,
they say, how come you know all these things about me?
And moving through His gifts is what really makes it difference.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
We also involved in the orphanages in India and Kenya,
and yes we ministry in Malawi because God gave us
heart permission because for me, it's the priority in the
church to bless I was in in India some years
ago for many days and I see the.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Problem of orphans.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
So God said that it's very important before God offerings
UH and and widows. So this is in a heart
like ministry and every moms we blessed sustain this orphanage
in India and in Kenya.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And we support ministries in.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Malawi to provide for example cycles because yes bicycle to
go in yes yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
They can self sustain. We help them to have a
job to you know, have the machines to build their
own things, to cook their own food.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
We organize for example, UH music concert to uh raise
money yeah yes you raise money for yes, yes we
we are we thanks God to putting our heart in
the ministry. Apostolic profect ministries is desired to to spread
up the Gospel in every fields of society. Church, mission, uh, sports.
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We we have a vision from God. God said to
me that the ministry embari now from about five five
six years UH is for to is to reach out
the person, the people of influence of society in h authority.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You know different fields.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Politics, business, education, sports, tentment. Yes, yes, yes, and this
is we see that God is faithful to.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Us to open doors in these fields. It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
We see miracles, minicles or provision for for us and
we we work by faith every day. This is a
good experience, emotional experience because we for example, we have
expensive we need for example in this time to to
receive a car. Yes, but for for us there is
no problem. We we say God, example we need our car.
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Please UH send your angels to put to send the car.
But every day, every day, my friend uh, we we
we receive the the faithful handle God that give us
what we need every day with with joy, with with
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the peace, because we are our hearts, put our faith.
We trust in God. We trust in God every day
or lives for my family. My my wife Francesca Uh
wrote a book for healing UH ealing hearts.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
We have this book too to bring earings UH deliverance
in the heart of people. And we see that a
lot a lot of people need to receive free deliverance
from this problem. Yeah, even curses UH, broken arts recover. Yes,
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we we we live in miracles every day. We we
see the power God move us and we decree the
glory on God.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Always.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
We do it because I say, God, please, I want
to see your glory in our lives, through our lives
and to reach out people, to touch people. Because the
the the words of Saint Peter during the Pandect says, uh,
the prophecy of Jobel is the old spirit was uh
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is spread out UH fulfilled every people, every.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Man, every women of the earth.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
This is our purpose to see the people feel of
the Holy Spirit UH. People that speaking times, people that
received deliver us. In August, we have baptism in a
in a sea on the sea because we.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Have the church five fifty metters yes of the of.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
The of the beach, and we celebrate the baptism with
the surrounded by a lot of people around the nation.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
That's that's always a testimony because people are curious and
they come in and say, what are you doing. You know,
we are in a pretty much Catholic nation, so they
don't really know about that is Baptism can be done
when you're grown ups, so they're always interested in this.
So that's one of the things that we used, you know,
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to spread the gospel. And I think that we're just
giving God what we have. He's not asking for you
to have much because we certainly are not the most professionals.
We're not probably the most qualified. We're none of us,
you know, have ever done this, but we are doing
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it by the grace of God. Like when we think
about TV show with you know, a small camera just
you know, a couple of people doing all the editing
the things, and you know, we are reaching people. That's
the reward that we have. And we're so happy because
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you know, sometimes people are stopped by the thought of
not having much. You know, I will work with God
and I do this when when I have the chance,
when I have you know, the right money, when I
have the right mind. You get to start. Like the
moment you start, God will you know, do his thing
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and he will just move. He just need you know,
our hearts to be open and to be willing to say, Okay, Lord,
let's do what you asked. And if you're really ready
to be part of this part of the kingdom, you
just got to say yes, Like, Okay, you're asking me
to do this. I don't know how because we don't
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have the right instruments, we don't have all the things
that it needs. But I know you will provide. And
this is crazy for us because we're just we're not
the biggest church. We just you know, people that want
to serve the Lord. And I think that's enough for
him because he will provide what you need.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Listen, That's one of the things that I've always admired
about your dad is his innovation, his ability to take
whatever he has in his hand and and multiply it.
And that that's one of the things that I believe
in your ministry for because he's had some fairly big
names come to Berry and uh and speak at his
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search and and and around, and so I'm just I'm
just thrilled at what you're able to do. You know,
America took a holding and we send out lots of
missionaries all through and God has used us. But the
days of Billy Graham are gone, and uh, it's no
longer just the American thing. In fact, America needs people
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to come and minister to us. Now we have wandered
away from God enough to where, you know, we have
lost our way a little bit. But it's it's kind
of like we're supposed to decrease, decrease a bit so
that the rest of the world can can increase and
and come up to the to the things that God wants.
But so many people look and say, you know, we
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don't have this and we don't have that. Well, it's
a matter of believing God. And it's nice if you
live in an area where that's a little more prosperous,
but that really isn't the end. We have people that
are on the street, bummed out doing nothing. You know,
we have we have, Jesus said, the poor You'll have
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with you always. Yes, it's really an individual choice as to.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Do I do I.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Do the best with what I have, or do I
get all upset because I don't have anything? Do I
hate my brother over here because he has something and
I don't, you know? And it's those kinds of thinking
that we have to dispel. And I see that in
your dad is he doesn't think that way at all.
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And I about him.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
He's always worked his mission since he was a kid.
Because my mom always tell me this, it was spread
the gospel, like I'm obsession. My grandma used to say,
you know, he used to spend his first years reading
the Bible, and I was like, really, no TV, no music,
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no nothing, just he was reading the Bible. So he's
always been, you know, after the heart of his father.
But for people like I've seen him going to the
beach and interviewing people and say, do you believe in Jesus?
Do you want to meet Jesus today? You know, he's
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always been like that. He have no shame, Like this
is I think the secret. He can speak to the
stones like he has no shame. And that's for something
that I want to pick up for him because you know,
when you have that ability, because you know, as you
can say, we can see others and we can say, oh,
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they have the perfect life. Well in the era of
social media, everybody has a perfect life, but you don't
know behind closed doors, people are major or insight. That's
what I think, because you present like what you want
the others to perceive. But the thing that we got
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to understand when we meet God and it's kingdom, is
that first of all we became part of the Kingdom
culture and so that it's our culture. You know, it
doesn't matter if you're black, white, whatever, it's Kingdom culture
above everything else, and what I think you must go in.
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It's your purpose in this life because this life is
not the goal is not ending. The ending is going
back to the Father. So what we do here it's
what matter. So it's not about having money, cars, whatever.
If God decided that you can have a certain blessing
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in life that is different from what I can have, fine,
it means that you maybe are going to reach people
there are in the higher positions, But that doesn't the
value what I have, because maybe I can reach people
that are in the streets. You know, everybody has a field,
so you speak with the people there are around you.
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So if God giving you wealth, okay, use it to
reach people that are wealthy. If you don't have enough
money in life, okay, God will provide, But maybe you
need to speak with the people that you know are
having trouble, even you know, paying rents at the end
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of the month. I mean, everybody, it's the ultimate goal
in this life is to reach people and the gospel.
This is what Jesus said, like, this is our job,
this is our mission. So it's not to of course,
God want us to enjoy this life. To be happy,
well content not happiness is not a biblical uh you
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know word, But it is important to be focused, like
our job is to live this life here, to left
the mark, to uh reach as many people as possible
and then go back home because this is not our home.
So it's you know, riches and whatever our appealing, but
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not as much as eternal life, not as much as
what God you know, called us. And when you really,
you know, get that, you really don't care about the
the ultimate car, the bigger out the things that people
you know always flound about, Like we don't care. We
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just do a job because our word is there, eternal
life true.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
And and Americans have learned some of us have kind
of learned that lesson. And it's nice to have things,
but things aren't what's important. Yeah, and you know, I
want to prophesy right now over my friend here, and
I just want to say, I want to want to
identify the apostolic calling that's on his life. Yes, and
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I want to just say, I want to say to
him what God said to Moses, what's in your hand brother, money?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, you go ahead. I translate to a better understanding what's.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
In your hand and what you have in your hand
as you have a radio and a TV and an
Internet outlet that far exceeds what radio, what TV, physical
TV will do nowadays. Yes, it's nice to be on that,
but it's not I really think that what you've got
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is the is the rod of God. Radio and TV,
radio and TV you can reach Italy, but it can't
reach the world. What you've got with your with with
the internet now is you can.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Reach the world, brother, Internet, Internet.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
I just want to encourage in that. I see you know,
God reeling you in and spending more and more time
or apostolically encouraging pastors, encouraging leaders. I believe you're going
to have a hand into the business rim and I
believe that you also have a hand into uh, you know,
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the government mental role as well. I see you in
all in several of those seven mountains, you know. I
believe that you're going to have input in a lot
of areas. But I believe it's that apostolic call that's
on your life, that is that's going to move you
into some of those things and starts start starting. I
mean that's what an apostle does. He starts putting structure together,
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he starts building. You'll look at the other guy's ministry
and say, well, you need to do this, this and
this are otherwise it's going to fall down over there.
You know, you you're going to build. You're going to
help them build structure. And that's because because you see,
if if you build, if you if you go build
a swimming pool, first, you're not going to have much
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of a house to live you know, you don't have
a house to live in. You know, you're going to
see those kinds of things, and you're going to see
what's lacking in their ministry and and how to build
it and how to how to put put it together.
The same thing with government, the same thing with you know,
the other areas that he's put you into business man,
so you know, he's going to let you see they
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have vision for structure, and you and and and the
innovation to encourage them to think rather than to try
to do or try to beg or try to get
money or or you know, get somebody else to do it,
come up with the idea of themselves.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Yes, yes, I received this is the right vision that
God holy Spirit gave to be because I perceive my heart,
my dear friend, thank you much for these profect words.
I am really a spiritual habitat because God gave to
me the sign to put another in the in the
church and to to govern this order, this vision that
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God gave to me for Italy and Europe.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
So God gave to me a great vision, a big vision.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
And I know, like you say that God will send
me workers to help us to accomplish the vision of
God is a very big vision. I I I rejoice
because the work of God is not possible to to bring.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Along, not by himself.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I think that we need achieve.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
We need to incorporate the missile God with the same visions,
stay together and to go on to manifest. I think
just God said to me these days, the church need
to manifest the manifold wisdom of God through principalities and
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powers in every place.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Is probably.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
The church is under attack, spirital attack from the spirital darkness.
But it's the time that the church UH revive to
catch the vision of God for the church because we
we have the wisdom God, because when we practice, we
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establish we Yeah, the wisdom God. We are connected with
having places where the wisdom God reigns in Jesus. So
Saint James, Saint Paul says, it's very important to manifest
through the chaos, chaos that we see, spiritual confusion, wars,
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many things. But in this time we need that the
church raise up with the powerful wisdom of God and
to see the problems is possible to resolve.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
By the wisdom God of the Kingdom God.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
So we want to manifest infinantly with Benyfore wisdom of God,
multifested wisdom in every every field or society, in job,
in education, in UH and politics in government. So uh
it's a privilege for me for us because I have
my daughter, it's a great preacher teacher.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah. Basic.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
So uh in the in this spiritual darkness, negative darkness,
we we see that uh we have the instrument to
to spread out the Gospel with wisdom.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Sometimes I like to use social media.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Uh mess or media communications. But sometimes the church has
no wisdom to uh utilize this instrument. There's a lack
of wisdom sometimes UH seems fanatic, fanatic people, crazy people.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
But I learned from Holy Spirit to speak with wisdom. Uh.
Saint Peter says is speak with the sweetness.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
With with the love, because we need to say the
truth with love.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Am I'm not a Joan Baptist, the Baptist.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
I want to be like a John, the Apostle of love,
to to share the Gospel of Jesus with love from
our heart to the people people compassion because I say
this passion for God, compassion for people. Sometimes we are
lacking of compassion and wisdom of peace, and when we
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are speak about Jesus or the gospel, we are rough.
Oh you must you must say with you you you you,
and it's a crazy gospel. But I might by experience
every day when I walk on the street and meet
the businessman, young people, I I say, may God bless you.
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I want to pray for you. I know that God
gave it to a purpose for your life. And we
take a great, a big arg So people.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Are really in lack of kindness sometimes because yes nobody
you know, if you go and have a cup of coffee,
sometimes people not even say hello good morning anymore. So
if you show kindness people are already shocked, you know,
because they say you're a nice person or you're kind,
so you can you know, utilize that to get in.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
And yes, I am a spirit of Father and in
the sense I see the people lack people. This must
be saved by the grace of God. Yes I speak
about I preach the gospel through gospel in integrity.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
But in truth, but with the love.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
And I want to say just one things you can
imagine now we have around the nation two types of churches,
the Church of Saint Peter and the Church of Saint Paul.
But what the means is that Saint Peter is the
the the church that is conservative, uh not open to
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the movement Holy Spirit. We have tradition, we have we
are a great history, the story. We have the Church
of Saint Paul, very open mind, lack a parachute, you know,
the mind open to the many things. But the church
that will receive Jesus coming is the Church of Saint John,
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the Church of Love. And I think that Jesus Holy Spirit,
by Jesus are prepared, is preparing the Church of Saint
John and unite the Church of Saint Peter, the Church
of Sample to stay to be together the love of God.
So I belong to the Church of Saint John, the
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love of God that received the King of Jesus coming
in the powerful and amacing.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
You know, it's because this time is the time where
people preach all about love. Love is love, you know,
you know there to love is love. We say God
is love. So it's way different because there's an attack
on you know, the identity, the personal identity. We have
seen even in education, they start teaching at the young
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kids wrong things, confusion on their identity. We want to
fight back that with the God's love given the young
children in the church a purpose, an identity, knowing who
they are in God. So we have even little children
in our church that goes at a school like you know,
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six seven years and they boldly speak about the Lord,
like they invite their friends to the church because they
learned this as normal. Like for them, what they receive
in church is what they have to you know, stay
outside with no fear, no shame. So they really, you know,
we're seeing people are shocked because they say what these
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children are saying, like they always invite people at the church.
Meet my pastor, he's a he said, you always say
that we are a family. So the teacher said, oh,
we are family. We have one of our youngest members
that say, oh, you know what, my pastor always say
that we are a family, so you should come and
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see and visit us. So we really are seeing the
youngest generation having visions, words praise like it's it's crazy,
we're leaving in the hands of time, but in a
good way, like it's the time to move. You said
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before that you know there's no another bilogram or whatever.
I think there's a new cycle. So there's a new
wine that is coming, so we don't need to always
look back. Yes, they did it, it was great, it
was good, but it's time for a new anointing, a
new wine, a new movement, like people need to do
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not the same as the past, but even better because
time is different. People are, you know, different because they
are controlled by all kind of thoughts and they are prisoners.
They're locked. We need to give them a new wine,
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a new freedom, like new spirit. So that's only possible
if you just move and walk in this.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
And I think your dad has it right, because the
scriptures says, you know, the love of the love of
God is what draws me into repentance. So when we
when we operate in the love of God and we
revealed the truth of who he really is. He is
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a loving God. So many people see him as some
evil old men that wants to squashy like a bug
or something, you know. I mean, it is the wrong
concept of who God is, you know. And so you know,
I'm I'm proud of your mom for writing the book.
I wrote one too, this name called Beside the Still Waters.
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I'm actually writing one right now that is uh that
the one that's that I'm working on right now is
about love. So I think your dad's really on the
right listen, and we're really out of time. I hate
this always goes way too fast, But I do want
you guys to just pray over my audience and bless
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them and and offer, you know whatever, do whatever the
Holy Spirit.
Speaker 4 (53:04):
But okay, yes, thank you God for your love. Thank
you God for your mercy. Take you for salvation by
Jesus Christ, Take you God that you are operates in
this moment in every heart that listens that sees this program,
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I decree and declareing the name of Jesus the Holy
Spirit moon now to touch every people the soul of people.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
And renew the mind, renew.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
Or revive the spirit, restore the soul, healing the body.
Every Father, in the name of Jesus, I decree the
kind of God upon these people now, and you touch
through your angels, your mighty power God, in this moment,
through this media, through this television, for internet, your spirit
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touch now in the demo Jesus, and we degrade salvation.
We declare healing, We declare deliverance. We decree that the
people of God, the Church of God, revives, revives by
the spirit of God or the spirit now this moment,
or through your hand touch and the wind, your wind
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to reach out every people in every homes receive a
powerful touch of We handle God and handle God upon
these people. Take you so much for this program. Thank
you so much from my friend brother Fred. Every father,
bless this man, blessed your son. Can you use a
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powerful way or through this program? So take your God.
That's from the half south east west. We spread out.
We preach the gospel of Jesus Christ because we perceive
that is the time, the right time to reach out
people and to spread out the gospel, the powerful gospel
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of Jesus class. Thank you so much for everything that
you will do it and you're doing now by the
power of God. Take you so much. For your angels
that support your church. Thank you so much for your love,
extremely love, extravagant, extractant love for us. Take you so much.
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Operates bless in this moment, in this time, in the
name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen, God, bless you too. We thank
you so much for coming on our show and being
part and we're just we're just excited about that. Listen,
since there's a generation, two generations over here, I have
a question for you, what is what is your generation?
Speaker 3 (55:57):
Milleniel.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
We we know that's that's a that's an age group. Yes,
let me let me tell you what you're generation? What
what the God told me was your generation was? Your
generation is everybody that breathes the breath of fresh air
at the same time that you do all through your life.
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So every generation, every person is his own generation. It's unique.
It's like a snowflake. It's one of a kind.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
And by the spirit, because you've been filled with the
Holy Spirit, you can pray in the spirit and you
can go and you can touch any one of those people,
no matter where they are on the world, in the
face of the earth. That's your generation. And when we
start looking past the age thing and we start looking
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at the whole of humanity and the ability that God
has given us to minister not only through the Internet,
but through his Internet. We pray in the spirit. Yeah,
we're lending him our voice to pray for anybody, anywhere,
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any side, any shape, any color.
Speaker 3 (57:15):
Absolutely, friend, I'm so grateful, you know.
Speaker 5 (57:19):
I'm grateful that I grew up in a church, because
usually when you grew up in a church, you learn
how to speak with children, elders, any age group.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
So I don't have any problem with that. It's it's
good because I can find a connection with the old
ladies and children, with teenagers and young adults. So I
think that's a gift from God, and I think it's
a good tool that our generation can use this to
reach as many people as possible. You know, I think
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when you speak boldly and people can feel that you're
talking from God and you speaking in the spirit, no
matter what age, no matter how old you are, no
matter your race, your color, your gender, you are a
vest soul going out the Holy Spirit, so they will
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receive it anyway. So thank you. I pray this and we.
Speaker 4 (58:20):
Pray this last imitation. Pray for our ministry, pray for
it for you, and we pray for you. We pray
for you, my friend, for you. Say may God great
again us say save it by Jesus.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Well all at the time. So let's wave goodbye to
everybody and SI.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
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