August 7, 2025 • 60 mins
Roger brings a word in season - 2025 is a year of Harvest and Plunder!
He explains this good news and challenges all to expect God's best in the coming days.
He explains this good news and challenges all to expect God's best in the coming days.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Broadcasting from the Golden Spread of Texas. This is the
Fred Hughes Show. With each episode we introduce to you
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and welcome this episode brought to you by the faithful
partners of Decision Ministry. Hello, and welcome once again to
the Fred Hughes Show. With glad you tuned in tonight.
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I've got a good looking rascal sitting right here to
it with me, and I'll introduce him in just a second.
But I just want to remind you of the website
that we have and if you'll go there and and
just kind of check in on on what's going on there.
Let me just put that up right quick. It's a
Decision one dot org. The word decision numeral one and
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org for organization. Go there. Have all kinds of good
stuff to kind of encounter dig into there, and the
main thing is there's a little giving button there. We
appreciate every any kind of support that you you know,
the gospel's free, but you know, for some reason, they
these these guys won't want money. And the guy sitting
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next to me and he's got a TV program, so
he can tell you they really do want money for
that kind of stuff. So that's good, Robert.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
We're just so glad you're here. Man, I'm thank thankful
that we're friends. I just love you guys, ministry, You Marianna,
special special people, and we're just blessed to have you
a friends, your friendship. And uh, you know, you guys
have been in ministry a long time, and and uh,
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I love you know the tent ministry you guys do
We we've kind of pretty much had a tent ministry
all the way through too. And you know that's a
good way to have ministry, folks, if you you don't
have to be in full time ministry to be a
full time minister, that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Amen? Amen? Amen? Well, Fred I just want to say, man,
it's a privilege to be here with you, Marianne, and
I feel the same way as you guys. You all
have a tremendous ministry. You've been serving the Lord for
a long time. I don't know how many years you've
been doing it, but ever since I met you the
first time, and probably many years before that. I know
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your brother and met your dad as well, feel like
I know a lot of your family just over the
years through different things. But just blessed to know you
and call you a brother in the Lord. And thanks
for having me here to see Joe man.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'll tell you what's good. Well, I did notice that
you were you were. I want to just kind of
plug your ministry right quick, Bill and Roger dot com.
I think I have a boy of putting that up
there just second, let me see if I do. Nope,
I've got your email on it. But anyway, Bill and
Roger dot com is a is a ministry site. I
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jot that down right quick. And uh, y'all are going
to be in what Saint Saint Mouns or Mounds or.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Uh, let's see. I knew you were going to ask
me the exact name of the town. I just always
call it Tulsa because it's right.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay, it's out, it's it's close to tuls just onlutskirts.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Of town city. Thanks, what it is?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay, y'all going to be there August nine, ten, uh,
this weekend? Yes, sir, So that's that's good. That's awesome. Y'all. Y'all, Uh,
you went out to Nevada or somewhere earlier this year.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Let's see, I'm trying to think where you're talking about.
But we've been Oh you're talking about Nevada, Missouri. Yeah,
that's it's just about another oh two and a half
three hours east of Okay. So just if you go
to Joplin and you turn and go to the northeast, oh,
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you run into Nevada, Missouri.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's good. Well, you you and Bill, you know, Bill,
y'all get out there and and and and bring a
good song and uh, and then you usually stand up
and preach a good solid word. I tell those people
blessed whenever whenever y'all show up. So, well, that's good.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You know. And old Bill he preaches a pretty mean
yeah he can, he can. When I say mean, I
mean a really good gospel, yes, sir, absolutely nothing mean
about Jesus.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, no, he's he's full of the word too. But
and then, and that's good. I mean, you guys just
have been working together a long time. It's very powerful
to uh, to have a relationship that's good and strong
like that. Y'all work together farming and a little bit
kind of kind of help each other. I doubt I
doubt that you both do do that much crossover in
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the farming department other than vising about when when you're
gonna plant, watch you planting and all that kind.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Of turnad we talk about every day.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Good solid turd roll in there.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
There you go. That's right.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, I tell you what good friends are invaluable, you know,
And you guys, the four of you have been friends
for a long time and you have a very powerful
ministry together, and we're just we're just we just encourage
people to hitch up with it. I like the little
TV show that you guys have put together, and you
do you do some other stuff as well, but uh,
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you know, it's just it's just good to to crank
it out for the Lord. And I really want to
start the show off by kind of I have a
prophetic word for you in particular, and I just want
to I want to kind of give that to you
as we get started, because I want to encourage you
and the Lord. H The Lord kind of showed me
the other day as I was kind of getting ready
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for this show, that the Lord is bringing an extra
big harvest in for you. This year, and he's also
going to open up a way for you to extend
expand extend your tent stakes physically. I believe you're going
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to have an opportunity to maybe acquire some new land
that and I think you've had it on on the
radar for some time, but you really haven't had the
the giddy up go or the or the go from
the Lord or whatever to to make that move yet.
And and the Lord says, go, uh there, I don't.
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I think what it's going to do is. I think
it's going to let you release something else that isn't
as important or fun are out and it's gonna it's
gonna scoot you in enough to where you're gonna be
able to have more time. You're going to gain time
because you're going to gather in a little closer, and
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you're gonna have a little bit of consolidation somehow. But
the Lord declares, this is a year of double for you.
And so I just declare that in Jesus name, that
that you, that he drops that that blessing of double
on your farming and on your ministry. And so I
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see it. I see an increase in both areas. I'm
not not an increase in uh in in uh effort,
but an increase in in in people that are paying
attention and and uh and and things that are happening
on on the ministry side. And then uh time h
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uh replaced repositioning of time on over on the farm
in side. So be blessed, brother, I just I just
wanted to with.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I received that and that is such a now word.
So h man, he nailed it. I really received that word.
You know. He usually confirms something that's been in your heart, sir,
that that land deal and all of that. It's uh,
I see it coming to pass and by faith I
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receive it. So thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Well the little tail end of that is important as well.
If you're going to be able to release something, I
know what that is too, So that that that's to
keep that it's a little key part of it because
I think that's what's going to give you some time.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Amen, received that.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Whatever, for whatever that's worth, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Worth a lot. Thank you. Nothing like a word one is.
Kenneth Copelan always says, one word from God can change
your life.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
All the difference in the world, world, brother, all the
difference in the world. It really is so tonight. I know,
you know, we kind of bumped bump noses just a
little bit. And you said you kind of had had
some some thought that you put together already and and
uh and and a word that you had gotten earlier
and uh and so I want to give you enough
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time to try to kind of put that together. And
uh and I don't want to. I don't want to
do that. But at the end, well we'll come back
and and when you get kind of wound up with
what you have to say, because I know something something's
on your heart. Uh, then i'll have have you closed that.
We'll we'll close out, minister if we need to at
the end.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay, sure, sure, And uh uh you know we did
this once before, but it spent a long time ago,
so uh, it's probably the protocol. I'm not familiar. But
I just want to invite you. You're not gonna mess
me up. If you stop and the Lord puts something
on your heart, just stop me, because this absolutely, in
my opinion, it's an interview and it's just a flow
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back and spirit. You know, I don't want to be
just doing all the talking, but that's good, you know,
to just get us kicked off in March, and I
shared a little bit of this with you in March
of this year. The Lord just put on my heart
that this is the year twenty twenty five is the
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year of harvest and plunder. And where I get that
out is in the word out of Isaiah chapter six.
And I want to give cred to this word. This
word was Holy Spirit breathed into me through another ministry.
It wasn't a prophetic word. He was preaching on TV
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and I was listening to it and it just it
lit my spirit up. And when God gave me this
word was in the middle of March. And I live
in Vega, Texas and farming ranch in Vega, Texas. And
March the fifteenth, I don't know what the wind speed was,
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but it was ever been a sixty to eighty mile
an hour gus. And I had land blowing and I
was plowing up some wheat that I'd planted double crop
behind some cotton from last year, and I was plowing
it up. I was stripping it to try to stop
it from blowing. It a farm along I forty west
of Vega some and I was trying to stop land
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from blowing. You remember when they had the hundred and
something head car pile up in canyon on I twenty seven.
It was that day and I was blowing across I forty.
I didn't know the I twenty seven, but I was
trying to get out there and get stuff stopped. Thankfully,
I didn't have a wide, wide area to stop land
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from blowing, but you know, I was just trying to
prevent something like that from happening. And then later I
come home that night hear that on the news.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
But so I remember that day very well. My wife,
we lost a fence at the house here, but I
was in Jackson, Mississippi Ministry.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You were glad you missed the Texas.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
We didn't even know it blew up that well. It
was windy there but not right here.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, it was. I had some friends in the Hill
Country that I'm also a county commissioner and in county government,
so I've been on some boards across the state, and
so I have some commissioner friends that are down in
the Hill Country and they were kidding me about all
the dirt that blew down there. And then the next
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day they texted me back, said I think we're sending
it all back because it was even blowing in the
hill country that time, and when God gave me this word,
and what he said to me is he said, twenty
twenty five is the year of harvest and plunder. And
that word plunder can mean several things. It's double portion.
You already mentioned the double portion. And the double portion
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isn't as early just two of everything. It's it's it's limitless,
it's just overflowing blessing and and and you know, God
always speaks to the contradiction of what a day to
get a word of harvesting plunder. I was driving around
talking on the two way radio to my sons, telling
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them where I could see land blowing so they could
hurry up and get tractors in different spots to stop
land from blowing with chisel plows. And I get that word,
and I'm just like, I know that's you, Lord, because
there's no way I could come up with something that
in the flesh looking at what I'm looking at today.
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And I can just tell you, in my in my
personal business, my personal life, I've seen it. And I
chase some storms. Uh. And when I say I'm a
storm chaser, I don't mean I'm a stormchaser to run
out and see how bad it is. I believe that
God's given us authority as believers if we realize who
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we are in Christ. I'm not talking about doing this
under my own power. This is what Jesus got and
paid for us as believers. Absolutely, we're to speak to
the storms. And so for a week I went out
every night speaking to the clouds, commanding hail storms to
just disintegrate, and watch them just disintegrate on my phone
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on the radar, and it haled around and I didn't
I didn't even tell them to part and go around.
I don't want to wish that off on my neighbor either.
And so there's a story I always tell about Bill.
This is probably twenty years ago. Bill his boys were little.
They were out in the barn and a tornado was
coming at him in his barn. He's got a nice
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barn and the roof was just lifting. It was a
little barn and he was in there and man, they
were throwing down in the spirit. His boys were praying.
They were little bitty guys. And he said the name
of Jesus, storm, you go around. And so I always
kid Bill, I said, you should have told it to disintegrate,
because that tornado went around his house and barn and
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went across the road and he had a pivot on
the other side of the road that flipped. And I said,
you know, that's where you missed it. I kid him
all the time. I said, you should have it to disintegrate.
And I really believe the Holy Spirit just put that
in my heart. You know, our words carry so much
power and authority.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They do, they do, and we have I mean, I
think as believers, I think we have no idea what
power we really do. How I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Know, the Word says that we're give an account for
every idle word that we seek. You know what that means.
There's no such thing as an idle word.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I called for a crop failure on some of the
things I said in frustration, and I called for a
harvest on the righteous things that I proclaim. And so
I'm proclaiming that this word and then the Lord, this
is the most important part of this word is then
the Lord. I just I prayed about it. And this
is at the infant stages when the Lord was showing
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me this, and I was just soaking this up like
a sponge and I mean, it was just one of
those you know, when the Holy Spirit is speaking to
your heart, you just can't get enough of it. And
it's so good. And you know, the word talks about
you know, it's it's like sweet to the lips, like
honey to the lips. And then and then and then
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it talks about that you spew it out of your mouth.
It comes bitter to the stomach and you spew it out. Well,
that's what the Lord showed me is this word isn't
of a just for me. This words for the body
of Christ. And and so it's in Isaiah chapter six.
And you know, we know Isaiah chapter six is the
Christmas the Christmas scripture, you know, of the increase of
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His government and peace. There shall be no end. I mean,
I'm sorry, not Isaiah chapter six. I'm looking at Judges
six right now. Isaiah chapter nine. Forgive me Isaiah nine.
I got to get back over here. Been doing all
this talking, and I hadn't been turning to Isaiah. In
Isaiah chapter nine. This is what he paid the price
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for us. Here we go, all right. And you know
in Isaiah chapter nine six it says for undo us
a child is born unto us, a son is given,
and the government will be upon a shoulder. His name
will be called Wonderful counselor Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince
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of Peace. You know, we've seen that in Christmas carols,
but it's right ahead of that. In beginning in verse two,
it says, the people who walked in darkness have seen
a great light. Those who dwelt in the land of
the shadow of death death upon them a light as shine.
This is prophesying. Oh hey, that's sweet, I see you
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have that up on the This is prophesign of Jesus' birth.
This is prophesign of Jesus' resurrection. What he paid the
price for us. It says, those who dwelt in the
land of the shadow of death, upon them a light
is shine. Verse three, you have multiplied the nation and
increased its joy. They rejoiced before you, according to the
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joy of harvest, as men rejoice when they divide. The
spoil or another word for spoil is plundered. For you
have broken the yoke of his burden, and the staff
of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor, as in
the day of Midian. That's really key right there. If
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somebody's watching this, and you want to get you want
to get this word down in you as in the
day of Midian, and the n IV says, as the
day of Midian's defeat, of all the things the Holy
Spirit picked to talk about that Jesus, they used the
battle of Midian's defeat. I think that's just really interesting
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to me, because you remember Gideon was hiding in a
wine press and then the Angel of the Lord appeared
to him and said, hell, mighty man of valor, or
another word for valor in that instance is hey, mighty warrior.
And he's hiding in a wine press from the enemy,
just trying to get some wheat ground up, to make
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some flour, to get some bread, to hide from the Midianites,
the Amlochites, and many men of the east. It talks about,
and so you know, that's a whole other sermon. But
that Angel of the Lord is calling things which be
not as though they were. He's calling him forth as
a mighty warrior. When he was hiding like a scared
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dog in a wine press from the enemy the whole time,
living in the most fertile land of Israel. So he
so he lived in this fertile land that was abundant.
But if you look in Judges chapter six, as in
the day of Midians defeat, it's talking about that defeat
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when Gideon defeated all of those many great people of
the East and the Median Nites, I call them all
those heights. Anyway, he destroyed them. And how'd he do it?
With three hundred men? And you know, I mean it
was only God. And they said they were too numerous
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to count. And when they came in, they're animals, camels
and everything were so numerous to count that they destroyed
the land. It was like locusts that just they moved
through in land and left poverty and blight and famine.
And so God says to him, says, uh, you know,
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I give you this land, you know, but you know
he had to do a few things. And we can
get into that a little bit if we have time.
But the main thing I want to talk about is
this word is not just for me. If you're watching this,
and I believe the Lord gave me permission to tell you.
First off, this is what Jesus paid the price for.
It's available to us three hundred and sixty five days
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a year, every year, he really wants to emphasize it
this year. He wants you to really press into it.
And that's what he spoke to my heart. Holy Spirit
just said, I want you to press into this word
and really see it. And so when I would chase
those scorms off, you know what I'd say, I'd say,
listen to me, clouds. This is the year of harvest
and plunder, no play. And that means hell and tornadoes,
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no plague comes nigh my dwelling or my crops. And
so I just prophesied that over took the I took
the word of the Lord, and then I released it
over my crops. So somebody has say, man, that guy's
crazier in the Hohodel. Well leave me alone in my idea.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You know one thing, one thing I would have added
right here, and that is that, you know, God, God
wants us to know who we are. And I think
I think one of the problems is we don't really
know who we are in Christ. We you know, we
we have this way of thinking that just deals with
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the five senses, and we need to get that sick
sense going in and the mind of Christ and get
the the understanding of the world you find you find
it in the word of God. But if you get
it in your spirit and you start believing it, you
believe who He says you are, and that's and then
you can say what He says for you to say.
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And that's where the power comes from, and that's where
the that's where the real change comes from. It's not
us that's doing this stuff. It's us suiting up in
Jesus and letting him do what it may, you know,
accomplish His will through us. Man, what a difference, What
a big difference. And that's that's your word right there.
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It's so much about who we really are and who
God sees us to be. Just like Midian, he was calling,
he was calling something he wasn't because he was a
coward hiding out. He wasn't he wasn't demonstrating what God
was was calling, that's for sure. And maybe you're in
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the same place. But but we can change that because
we have the Greater One and everything in us. Amen.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
He speaks to the potential that he's seizing you. The
Bible says he knew every hair on your head, He
knew you before you were formed in your mother's womb,
and He's speaking to your potential inside you. May be
you may have a needle stuck in your arm right now,
and somehow you ended up on this, uh, this show.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know, I don't know what kind of situation, but
God is speaking to the potential. Jeremiah twenty nine eleven says,
for I know the plans that I have for you, says,
the Lord plans to give you a hope and a future.
And I love what the King James version says, to
give you an expected end. And you know what that
expected end is. It's what he prophesies over you in
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his word. He calls you the righteousness of God in
Christ Jesus. He's speaking to you as that mighty man
of valor. Amen. And so I just say, rise up,
mighty man of valor and women of valor that are
out there, and just receive this word. Twenty twenty five
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is the year of harvest and plunder. Freddie, you're still there.
You may have switched off. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, I'm just I just moved out of the way.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Okay, No, you're good. I just I wanted to make
sure we didn't go off there. If you go back
to if you go back to verse two. I just
kind of want to talk about a few things that
the Lord just really showed me. The people who walked
in darkness. I mean, you know, I'm sad to say
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that there's a lot of Christians out there who are
walking in darkness. You know, maybe you've said, well, you
never know what God is going to do. You never know. Yes,
you do. You have the mind of Christ holy spirit.
He says, I'll not leave you orphans, but I'll send
the helper, the one who comes alongside the Peracletos, the
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helper who will guide you into all truth and show
you all things to come. We don't have to be
walking in darkness. We walk in the light, it sayst
But they have seen a great light. That's when the
revelation of who Fred was talking about. When you talked
about that, Fred, you're you're just you're just saying it
in your words of two. They've seen a great light.
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It's revelation knowledge. Those who dwelt in the land of
the shadow of death. If you're walking in fear out there,
you know we're surrounded by the shadow of death. Number one,
just the most basic is people who are afraid of dying.
You know, and I mean, this may be getting off
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in the weeds, but I feel like Holy Spirit wants
me to say it. How many times do you hear
when someone passes away. My mother was ninety three and
I preached her homegoing service, and somebody said, how'd you
do it? I said, that's easiest message I ever preached.
My mom and I talked about her going to be
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with the Lord. She was ready to go. I mean,
how could I be sad when I know where she is.
She's in glory, and it's only selfishness that wants to
keep them back. Yes, I understand, you know, when we grieve,
but grief is really for ourselves. It's not for those
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if they're believers. Now, if they're not believers, that's a
different story. I'm talking about believers. Us as believers, Why
would we Why would we be sad when someone goes
to be with the Lord man if they knew Jesus, Hey,
this life that we live in here now is just
a it's just a vapor. It's a temporary sliver of
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time for all eternity. And so uh, you know, we
need to really realize who we are in Christ and
what He's paid for and right here. He's paid for
us to be enlightened and to not be afraid of
the shadow of death, because that's all it is, a shadow.
It's just like remember when you were little and you
shine a flashlight on your hand up on the wall,
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and it looks like a big monster with rabbit ears,
you know, and you'd shine that light on that. It
was a big shadow. But that's all it was, was
a shadow. It was a harmless shadow of your fingers
looking like a bunny rabbit up on the wall. And
so you know, we've been delivered from the shadow of death.
You know, it's where we grew up. Actually, it's where
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we grew up before we grew up in the Word.
And uh so many Christians, you know, you hear, they
forget who they are. They still talking about who they
were apart from the grace of God. I'm just an
old sinner. No, you were an old sinner. You've been
saved by grace. Now you call the righteousness of God
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in Christ Jesus and you know. And then it goes
on in verse three it says you've multiplied the nation
and increased its joy. I'm telling you, when you get
a revelation.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Of what Jesus you're at first, Peter.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
No, I'm still in Isaiah. Uh, I'm still in Isaiah
chapter nine.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh sorry, I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
At verse three. You've multiplied the nation and increased its joy.
They rejoice before you, you know. I mean, it's the
joy of the Lord. That's our strength, and it's the
joy of the Lord. Whenever we realize who we are
fred in Christ. Man, when you start realizing who you
are in Christ, you're not some insignificant worm. You're not
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some old worm, dirt, old sinner. I didn't say you
might not a sin, but you've been made the righteousness
of God. And when we get away from that sin,
consciousness and and and meditate on who we are in Christ,
then righteousness follows. And it's not about word. I'm not
talking about doing works to be righteous. You already are righteous.
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And so you know. It says it increased His joy
and they rejoice before you, according to the joy of Harvest.
I want to read it out. I love what it is.
I usually am not a big n IV guide, but
it's I like it says, as the people rejoice harvest,
as men rejoice when dividing the plunder, for as in
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the days of Midians, defeat of all the things for
it to describe what Jesus paid the price for us
on the cross. It's saying, it's like the defeat of
the Midians. In other words, it's talking about that battle
of getting had picked, that battle of all things that
they were, you know, three hundred men. God kept whittling
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it down, so they couldn't say they did it on
their own. It had to be supernatural. And it was
just three hundred men who went out with some torches
under a picture and they broke it and they said,
I can't remember the arm of the Lord or something.
And here's the next part. Those Midianites and the men
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of the East, all that bunch of them, It said
that they turned and they killed each other trying to
get away, and they dropped and left all of their goods,
all of the spoils of the battles that they had stolen,
and a lot of it was stolen from the Israelites,
and they left all of that, and so Gideon's army
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chased them down. They killed each other, and they got
the spoil. So first off, when all the Midianites ran off,
and the men of the East, when they ran off.
That was the harvest because they left the land and
now it could flourish again. That was the harvest. But
then the plunder is they left all of the spoils
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of battles. They had stolen. What the devil, I'm telling
you what the devil is stole from you, guys that
are listening here, those who will received this word. What
the devil is stolen from you? Maybe he's stolen your health,
maybe he's stolen finances from you, and you know, maybe
you made some bad decisions. But I'm telling you, the
grace of God is bigger than your decisions. And so
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that's the plunder. That's the double portion. Not only is
God got harvest in your life, but when the enemy's caught,
he's got to give back seven times what he's stolen.
That's what the word says. So that's the plunder. And
you know we called it the double portion while ago,
well double portion. You know it's more than just two times.
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I mean, think about it when you look back at
the at the double portion. It's the jubilee, is what
it really is. Jesus is our jubilee. And in Luke,
let's see, I think it's Luke is it Luke fourteen.
When Jesus stood up and prophesied who he was out
of Isaiah chapter sixty one, Luke four. I think it's Luke.
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For excuse me, I wasn't planned on saying this, but
it's Luke four eighteen. Jesus went into the synagogue as
was his uh, this was his practice, and he grabs
this is his first sermon that he ever preached. These
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are the first words that Jesus preached. The spirit of
the Lord is upon me because he's annoyting me to
preach the gospel to the poor. First off, gospel, what
is that. It's called good news. It's not a harsh
goods There's no such thing as a harsh gospel. Gospel
means good news. And if what's good news to the poor,
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you don't have to be poor anymore. God, God will
prosper you. He sent me to heal the broken hearted
and to proclaim liberty, freedom to those who are captive,
recovery of sight to the blind, to set it liberty
those who are oppressed, and to proclaim the acceptable year
of the Lord. The acceptable year of the Lord is
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the year of jubilee. It's the it's the double portion.
And you know, uh in Leviticus he talks about and
you know Colossians chapter two says these laws are all
just shadows of better things to come. I mean, you
remember on the seventh day that they couldn't gather anything.
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He said, I'll give you the double portion on the
sixth day. Well, think about it when I say double
portions more than just too So think about in the
seventh year. In the seventh year, on the sixth year,
he gave them enough for the whole next year, he
gave them more than enough to cover the next year.
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But think about it on the fiftieth year, the year
of jubilee. On the forty ninth year, which was the
seventh year, you couldn't plant. So on the forty eighth year,
he had to give you enough for those two years.
Plus it takes a whole another year. When you sew
a crop. As a farmer, I realize it takes a
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whole another year of that crop to grow before you
have a harvest. So for three years on the forty
eighth year, he gave him enough for three years. That's
what I call provision. That's what I call.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And that's just a more than enough.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Brother, more than enough. You know, I can hear I
can maybe hear some religious thoughts out there, probably not
your audience, but I can. I've heard religious thoughts out
there in the past. Say, well, brother, you know, he
just says he'll just give us to me darn needs.
But it says, according to his riches in glory, he's
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el should I not an el chiapo. He's the dog
more than enough. And we treat him religiously like he's
just a cheapo and he's just going to give us
enough to get by, just enough. No, that's the government.
That's the government, and it ain't even enough to get by.
The governor. Government's not your source. So anyway, Uh, the
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Lord just put that on my heart, and every where
I go, I'm proclaiming it, I'm preaching it. And you know,
there were some things that Israelites had to do it
just for six they had turned to idols. You know,
it's you need to look at your life. What are
the idols in your life? You need to just get
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those out. It doesn't mean that the Lord from a
New Testament perspective, it doesn't mean that God's angry with you.
He still loves you, but you just need to get
those out of the way of your life. They're clogging
I like to say it like this, they're clogging the arteries.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Of Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Just in the way God wants to get it to you.
And then they realized that, oh we've messed up, and.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Mhm, so powerful. That's that's just so powerful and it's
really true. You know. The whole issue that we have
is we have, you know, the ability to come against
that sort of thing and to stand against that thing.
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If we realize who we are, then we can stand
in the authority and the power and the blessing that
God wants to pour entire life. And it's just like
Roger's talking about, I think he's trying to sign back
in here. Hang on just a minute. I'll get him
back up here. But it's it's fundamentally important for us
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to be able to well, let's see, I thought, I
thought maybe he was going to sign back in and
hang on just a minute, let me see if I
can't get him back up again, Roger, there no anyway anyway.
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The the strength in the power of the of the
word that he's bringing, everybody needs to really focus in
on it because God wants to bless you. He wants
you to have He wants you to have, you know, abundance.
He wants you to be able to stand in that
double blessing and even more more than enough. He is
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a god of more, and so that's what he wants
for you, that's what he wants for me. If we're believers,
we are well able to stand in what he has
for us. And it's Rodgers back again. I'm just saying
that so important that we really do understand who who
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we are in him, because that's where the real power lies,
and that's that's where the blessing is going to come from.
But he's ready to bless us.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
He wants, he wants to bless you more than we
actually want to be blessed.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
That's the heart of God. And you know what happens
to us is like when we get in that shadow
of darkness and the shadow of death all of that,
what do we do? We get fearful and then we
draw back and we miss God. We miss God when
he's got a great opportunity for us, but we get afraid,
oh what if it doesn't work? Well, you know, my
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grandmother used to it's maybe not a spiritual saying, but
it is it's a face saying. She used to say,
kick at the moon and if you miss, so what
you know? But we as Christians have been shooting at
nothing and hitting every time. You know, why not shoot
at the big goal? You know? And you talked about
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when you were prophesying over me, which is Isaiah fifty four.
Enlarge the place of your tent. Stretch forth your tent pegs,
you know, make room. We got to make room for God,
and we got to make room for the Holy Spirit
to expand us. I heard this. I heard this. You
may heard it too, fred Uh, I heard I heard
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it third person, but I heard that Jesse. The plan
is Uh. I'm sure you're familiar with his ministry. And
he said, he said the Lord, He said, I was
making goals for the year. And he said, the Lord
just spoke to me and said, so you don't want
to employ me this year. And he said, because I
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was doing it in a budget. And I'm not saying
we don't use a budget, but that's just a beginning,
but stretchers. And he said, well, what do you mean, Lord?
He said, everything you put on, everything you put down
on your prayer concerns about your vision so far has
been something you can do on your own. Yeah, he said,
but if you'll employ me, I'll do supernatural things. Wow,
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isn't that good man? I'm telling you, it just went
off in me like a I mean, it went off
like a light bulb in me. Let's stretch our believing
twenty twenty five not only as the year of harvest
and plunder, but to get the harvesting plunder, You're going
to have to stretch your faith. Get out there and
believe God, because if you can do it on your own,
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it's not supernatural, it's just superficial. And so many times
we won't stretch ourselves to believe God. And I was
just talking with my sister earlier today and what came
to mind was the River Jordan. It didn't roll back
and they didn't cross the River Jordan on d ground
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until the priests stepped into the water. You had to start,
and it was at flood stage. I've been to Israel
and I've seen that river. I saw, actually saw the
River Jordan. We couldn't go down and do the baptizing
in the Jordan because it was flooded. So I was
there when it was at flood stage and it probably
was nothing like it was, but they had to stick
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their toes in the water first before they saw them
the supernatural take place. And you know, that's just the
way God is with us when we step out in faith,
then he slides his hand under us so we won't fall.
And that's so that's so difficult sometimes to do. It
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is it's called trust.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, we sing it everyone. The one thing I've found
out about God is that He's going to keep you
in a faith posture, you know. I mean, He's always
going to have it set up to where you need
to take a step of faith in order for him
to complete what it is. And it's just we just
call that basically exchange. I exchange what I've got and
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he and he and he gives me what he's got.
He's the worst trader I've ever met, but I'm so
glad he is. I get the good deal out of
it every.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Time, Isn't That's something? Yeah? I heard. I heard a
story one time about John hage And this came from
a man that I knew. He was an old prophet
guy and he actually ran John Hagey's hog farm outside
of San Antonio back in the day.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
And you know, the Lord asked John if he would
give that up, and he was, I mean, I think
it was a sizeable hog operation. And I may mess
some of the details up because he didn't go into
a lot of specifics, but he said the Lord just
spoke to him one day and said, you got too
much to do. I'm asking him to lay it down.
So he laid it down. And sometime later, I don't
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know if it was within ten years, five years, whatever,
this old boy told me that somebody gave John Hagey
this hunting ranch. It was a showplace, beautiful, this big
lodge on it with the land. And this land was
right there around San Antonio, and said, old brother hage
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He went out there and when he walked on that property, said,
big tears rolled down his cheek and he said, and
all of it, all you asked me to do was
give up a hog farm.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Which that illustrates your story or your analysis. He's a
bad trader.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
He's amazing, you know. And what he wants to give
us is so abundantly more than what we have. And
the worst part of it is we actually already have it.
He's already given it you know, but even before we
ask or think, he knows what we need and he's
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already met the need. And so it's you know, for me,
it's just like wow, you know, how can you how
can you even fathom the ways of God? We really can't.
But we can take full advantage of it because that's
what he wants us blessed. He wants us to walk
in power, he wants us to walk in abundance. He
wants us to walk healthy wise. You know. He said
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he'd give us wisdom, you know, And all we have
to do is just ask him and fellowship with him,
have a conversation with him, and he will answer. Or
we have need of everything. He even gives us the
faith to do it with amen.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
You know what you said there is so powerful you said,
He's already given it to us already. Stuff. I'm talking
about harvest and plunder. He gave it to us two
thousand years ago. It's just up to me if I
can receive it or not. I mean, I think so
many times that's where we miss it. As Christians. We're
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like a dog chasing our tail. We keep trying to
get something that we already got. All we get we
don't have to beg God for it. We don't ask
him why didn't you give it to me? God? We
just didn't say where did I miss it? Lord? Where
did I miss it? Because You've already given me. I
always use the illustration of Bill, my ministry partner. I
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don't know why I always throw him under the bus
like this, But I say Bill got saved in nineteen
ninety eight at a walk to a mais. Wow, Jesus
didn't crawl up on a cross in nineteen ninety eight
and say, Bill Grochy, I'm doing this for you. I
said he did that two thousand years ago. But in
nineteen ninety eight on a walk to a mais, Bill
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finally got revelation of that and he received it. You know,
Bill didn't say, oh, hey, would you do this for me? God?
Would you do? But with it's like we get born
again and then we try to talk God into all
these things. He's already given it to us.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Did he already? And you know some Christians have so
much trouble with the sin thing because you know, just
think about it. You know, God had to forgive you
of all your sins two thousand years ago, you know,
like not like hanging around waiting on you to, you know,
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commit your next sin so he can crawl back up
on the cross to take care of it. He's already
done it. It's already a done deal. And in the
same way our blessings are waiting us, in the same
way as our as forgiveness for our sin. He's already
completed everything he needs to do in our behalf. Everything.
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That's mind boggling to me, But it's that's the truth.
That's what the Bible clearly spells out. Yes, why Chris,
so many Christians miss it because of the wrong teaching
and and and our our our thinking in terms our
fleshly thinking of just thinking concerning those five senses that
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we have. You know, if we can't see it or
touch it, or smell it or taste it, well we
don't believe it's there, you know type. But now now
you know, word of God reveals a lot more.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Oh man, I'm telling you, you know, I don't know if
you were you may not have been like me. I
was a knucklehead. I didn't know the word of God
for anything. And anyway, I didn't know the Word of
God for anything. So why, you know, why would we
confuse what God has really wants for us with the
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Word of God. He clearly tells us what he wants.
But tradition, you know, I think it's Mark seven thirteen
basically says the tradition of men has made the word
of God of no effect, and so you know, it's
some religious idea. I had these ideas. I was thirty
two years old before I realized God cared about my business.
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I thought all he cared about was me getting to heaven. Well,
if that was what it was about, why he when
he preached the kingdom, he didn't. He said, the kingdom
is now now, you know, Eternity starts right now. And
when we get born again, if it was all about
getting to heaven, just just to get which that would
be enough. But if it was all about getting to heaven,
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well he might as well just come down and knocked
us in the head and drug us off to heaven.
You know. But but that was the first step. I
always call it. Getting born again is the diaper stage,
you know. And then you supposed the Bible says in Hebrews,
you know, to get out of milk and turn the
strong meat. But unfortunately, many Christians never get past the
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the the formula stage. And uh, and so when you
realize what's available to us, of what all he really
paid the price for. It's so you said it, it's
mind bug. You can't comprehend it except through revelation spirit
man with the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
And that's exactly what happens whenever you get born again. Uh,
you know. And John first for h John three two, three,
two five and seven I think it is or three
five and seven. It just says, you can't see into
the Kingdom of God until you're born again, and you
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cannot enter into the Kingdom of God unless you're born again.
And then in verse seven says, don't be surprised when
I said you need to you need to be born again.
I mean, it's it's the bottom line. It's essential that
we are born again so that we can we become
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children of God. Another verse says that he gives us
power to become sons, our daughters of God's that's amazing.
He empowers us to become his brother, his equal. Really,
he has set us into the place where we receive,
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you know, the ability to become a child of God.
That is just completely mind boggling to me. There you are,
there you go anyway. That that blows my mind that
we can even become a child of God. But once
we become a child of God, then we need to
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be empowered to do the work of the ministry, to
do his to It talks about, you know, becoming a
part of the kingdom and operating in the kingdom. You know,
it's one thing to get born again. It's another thing
to grow up and actually become real functional. So it's
important for every Christian to grow up and to mature
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and to become viable in the kingdom.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Well, this word that the Lord gave me twenty twenty five,
I believe the Lord spoke to me. I realize we're
starting to run out of time, and so I want
to be sure and just proclaim this over the people.
Just do it. The Lord spoke to me that this
is the year of harvest and plunder. Now this may
be what is this is August, but I believe, first off,
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this word applies for all the time. But I want
to I just want to proclaim this over you that
over the next twelve months, if you'll meditate on this
the year of harvest and plunder, and you can go
to Billanroger dot com.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Well, we seem to be dropping out and hang on
just a minute. He'll come back in. But Bill and
Roger dot com. That's where if you go there, Uh,
there's some places in there in there that I'm sure
that kind of give you the layout on how to
get born again, how to be filled with the spirit,
how to do a lot of different things as well,
A's Decision one dot Org. Uh, there's there's good material
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in there. Uh, if you'll go there, I've got a
book it's called Beside the Still Waters, and that book
is a is a book. It talks about how do
how do you get born again? And how do you
become filled with the Holy Spirit? Those two things. It
talks about in in depth and gives you lots of
scripture references. So we don't want you going without the
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understanding that you need in in doing and receiving what
God has for us. Let me see if I can
get Roger back up here one more time. There is
there is.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
I just want to say that you can. I know
we talked about this pretty light, but I've preached several
messages on this and uh, you can go to Billanroger
dot com you can go to archives shows. I want
to introduce to you something that's pretty new. We're on
YouTube now. You can just YouTube Bill and Roger ministries
(54:06):
and pull us up and I just encourage you to
subscribe or whatever you call that, like subscribe, I don't
know what you call it on YouTube, but anyway, you
can see our ministry on YouTube. Or we also have
a podcast. It's called Extraordinary Living All one word extraordinary
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is one word I mean. And then Living with Bill
and Roger and that's a podcast. You can get it
on your Apple. You can get it on your iPhone.
Just go to the Apple, y'all. So can get it
on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, that's good anyway, Bill and Roger dot com and
they will have some links over there. Billanroger dot com,
I'm sure, so avail yourself of that and hopefully would
give Roger back on one more time. I'd love for
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him to close close out and pray for us. So uh,
but we thank you for coming to the show tonight.
We thank you that that Jesus is your Lord, and
that's what we want to know. We want you to
know as a as a group, and we want you
to proclaim that same same good news to other people.
(55:26):
Let me see if I can't get him back to
just a second, here, one more opportunity, just second, Here
we go, Hey, there we go. There, Yeah, let's let's uh.
I'd like for you to go ahead and pray for
people right quick. But but uh, Bill and Roger dot com, right, Bill.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
And Roger dot com. And you can go on Spotify
with if you've got a something other than an iPhone
or an appts anyway, So let's get past that. I
just want to pray over the people. Father God, I
thank you in the name of Jesus for what you've paid
for each and every one of us. I thank you
this This word is a more sure word of prophecy. Yes,
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if we need a word spoken over us, all we've
got to do is look in this word and see
what you have spoken over us for thousands of years.
And I thank you Lord. For those people who are
out there, they don't walk, I proclaim over them, they
will not walk in darkness nor of the shadow of death.
For they have seen a great light. And that light
is called the Light of Jesus Christ, the light of
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the world, and the light by the Holy Spirit. And
I just pray enlightenment into their hearts. Holy spirits speak
to them, change their lives forever, and we release the
year of harvest and plunder over them. Yes Jesus's name,
thank you Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
Roger, so thank you for joining us tonight and bringing
a good word. Man, just awesome. I love it when
you come on the show. You always have an exciting
zeal to you, and I think that's what we all need.
We all need to be pumped up just a little bit.
There's been so many, so much bad news across the world.
There's it's time for a little good news, amen.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
And God is doing great things in the land of
the living. We need to just slip to that.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
You know, it's exciting time to be alive and and uh,
you know, I just it's just it's just so hard
sometimes to to find people that are up and want
to lift up people. And uh, there's so many things
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to be negative about. But you know, God is still
on the throne. He didn't wake up yesterday going like,
oh no, I didn't think about that. He's got it
all under control. He's one hundred percent. And uh, and
so we need to just walk in the joy of
the Lord. But the joy of the Lord is our strength.
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And if you want to strengthen yourself and the Lord,
we'll just go and get in, get yourself stirred up
in joy, and then minister to the to the Lord himself.
Just watch what happens, Amen, Roger, once again, thank you
so much for joining us. Man, I'm excited about it.
We appreciate it so much.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
When you come on, well, thank you Fred, love your
ministry love. You appreciate the opportunity to get to share.
You know, you can't serve the Lord without being excited. Man,
It's freedom, it's liberty. You know.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
We have the best news ever.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
Amen, Amen, nearly be true news.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
There you there, you win. I'll tell you, it's just
it just gets gooder and gooder. Hey, listen, let me
just remind you. We have a prayer line. I'll put
that number up there. It's eight o six three fourth
zero zero one sixth. You give them that call. You
have people that speak Spanish English either one that will
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minister to you. Join us again. Next week seven o'clock
we'll have another. We have some more folks lined up.
I have I have an exciting I've got a whole
bunch of people. I'm booking in, uh toward the end
of October right now. So I've got I've got some
great people coming on the show. I'll tell you what
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you're going to be blessed if you'll just keep tuning
in and share that the link with somebody else and
and help us to, you know, get the gospel out
by sharing some of the good news that we'll put out.
And so be blessed with that and join us again
next next Thursday, seven o'clock. Amen, seven time, Roger, see
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I've got a good looking rascal sitting right here to
it with me, and I'll introduce him in just a second.
But I just want to remind you of the website
that we have and if you'll go there and and
just kind of check in on on what's going on there.
Let me just put that up right quick. It's a
Decision one dot org. The word decision numeral one and
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org for organization. Go there. Have all kinds of good
stuff to kind of encounter dig into there, and the
main thing is there's a little giving button there. We
appreciate every any kind of support that you you know,
the gospel's free, but you know, for some reason, they
these these guys won't want money. And the guy sitting
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next to me and he's got a TV program, so
he can tell you they really do want money for
that kind of stuff. So that's good, Robert.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
We're just so glad you're here. Man, I'm thank thankful
that we're friends. I just love you guys, ministry, You Marianna,
special special people, and we're just blessed to have you
a friends, your friendship. And uh, you know, you guys
have been in ministry a long time, and and uh,
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I love you know the tent ministry you guys do
We we've kind of pretty much had a tent ministry
all the way through too. And you know that's a
good way to have ministry, folks, if you you don't
have to be in full time ministry to be a
full time minister, that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Amen? Amen? Amen? Well, Fred I just want to say, man,
it's a privilege to be here with you, Marianne, and
I feel the same way as you guys. You all
have a tremendous ministry. You've been serving the Lord for
a long time. I don't know how many years you've
been doing it, but ever since I met you the
first time, and probably many years before that. I know
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your brother and met your dad as well, feel like
I know a lot of your family just over the
years through different things. But just blessed to know you
and call you a brother in the Lord. And thanks
for having me here to see Joe man.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'll tell you what's good. Well, I did notice that
you were you were. I want to just kind of
plug your ministry right quick, Bill and Roger dot com.
I think I have a boy of putting that up
there just second, let me see if I do. Nope,
I've got your email on it. But anyway, Bill and
Roger dot com is a is a ministry site. I
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jot that down right quick. And uh, y'all are going
to be in what Saint Saint Mouns or Mounds or.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Uh, let's see. I knew you were going to ask
me the exact name of the town. I just always
call it Tulsa because it's right.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay, it's out, it's it's close to tuls just onlutskirts.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Of town city. Thanks, what it is?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay, y'all going to be there August nine, ten, uh,
this weekend? Yes, sir, So that's that's good. That's awesome. Y'all. Y'all, Uh,
you went out to Nevada or somewhere earlier this year.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Let's see, I'm trying to think where you're talking about.
But we've been Oh you're talking about Nevada, Missouri. Yeah,
that's it's just about another oh two and a half
three hours east of Okay. So just if you go
to Joplin and you turn and go to the northeast, oh,
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you run into Nevada, Missouri.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's good. Well, you you and Bill, you know, Bill,
y'all get out there and and and and bring a
good song and uh, and then you usually stand up
and preach a good solid word. I tell those people
blessed whenever whenever y'all show up. So, well, that's good.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You know. And old Bill he preaches a pretty mean
yeah he can, he can. When I say mean, I
mean a really good gospel, yes, sir, absolutely nothing mean
about Jesus.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, no, he's he's full of the word too. But
and then, and that's good. I mean, you guys just
have been working together a long time. It's very powerful
to uh, to have a relationship that's good and strong
like that. Y'all work together farming and a little bit
kind of kind of help each other. I doubt I
doubt that you both do do that much crossover in
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the farming department other than vising about when when you're
gonna plant, watch you planting and all that kind.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Of turnad we talk about every day.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Good solid turd roll in there.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
There you go. That's right.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, I tell you what good friends are invaluable, you know,
And you guys, the four of you have been friends
for a long time and you have a very powerful
ministry together, and we're just we're just we just encourage
people to hitch up with it. I like the little
TV show that you guys have put together, and you
do you do some other stuff as well, but uh,
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you know, it's just it's just good to to crank
it out for the Lord. And I really want to
start the show off by kind of I have a
prophetic word for you in particular, and I just want
to I want to kind of give that to you
as we get started, because I want to encourage you
and the Lord. H The Lord kind of showed me
the other day as I was kind of getting ready
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for this show, that the Lord is bringing an extra
big harvest in for you. This year, and he's also
going to open up a way for you to extend
expand extend your tent stakes physically. I believe you're going
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to have an opportunity to maybe acquire some new land
that and I think you've had it on on the
radar for some time, but you really haven't had the
the giddy up go or the or the go from
the Lord or whatever to to make that move yet.
And and the Lord says, go, uh there, I don't.
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I think what it's going to do is. I think
it's going to let you release something else that isn't
as important or fun are out and it's gonna it's
gonna scoot you in enough to where you're gonna be
able to have more time. You're going to gain time
because you're going to gather in a little closer, and
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you're gonna have a little bit of consolidation somehow. But
the Lord declares, this is a year of double for you.
And so I just declare that in Jesus name, that
that you, that he drops that that blessing of double
on your farming and on your ministry. And so I
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see it. I see an increase in both areas. I'm
not not an increase in uh in in uh effort,
but an increase in in in people that are paying
attention and and uh and and things that are happening
on on the ministry side. And then uh time h
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uh replaced repositioning of time on over on the farm
in side. So be blessed, brother, I just I just
wanted to with.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I received that and that is such a now word.
So h man, he nailed it. I really received that word.
You know. He usually confirms something that's been in your heart, sir,
that that land deal and all of that. It's uh,
I see it coming to pass and by faith I
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receive it. So thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Well the little tail end of that is important as well.
If you're going to be able to release something, I
know what that is too, So that that that's to
keep that it's a little key part of it because
I think that's what's going to give you some time.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Amen, received that.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Whatever, for whatever that's worth, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Worth a lot. Thank you. Nothing like a word one is.
Kenneth Copelan always says, one word from God can change
your life.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
All the difference in the world, world, brother, all the
difference in the world. It really is so tonight. I know,
you know, we kind of bumped bump noses just a
little bit. And you said you kind of had had
some some thought that you put together already and and
uh and and a word that you had gotten earlier
and uh and so I want to give you enough
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time to try to kind of put that together. And
uh and I don't want to. I don't want to
do that. But at the end, well we'll come back
and and when you get kind of wound up with
what you have to say, because I know something something's
on your heart. Uh, then i'll have have you closed that.
We'll we'll close out, minister if we need to at
the end.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay, sure, sure, And uh uh you know we did
this once before, but it spent a long time ago,
so uh, it's probably the protocol. I'm not familiar. But
I just want to invite you. You're not gonna mess
me up. If you stop and the Lord puts something
on your heart, just stop me, because this absolutely, in
my opinion, it's an interview and it's just a flow
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back and spirit. You know, I don't want to be
just doing all the talking, but that's good, you know,
to just get us kicked off in March, and I
shared a little bit of this with you in March
of this year. The Lord just put on my heart
that this is the year twenty twenty five is the
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year of harvest and plunder. And where I get that
out is in the word out of Isaiah chapter six.
And I want to give cred to this word. This
word was Holy Spirit breathed into me through another ministry.
It wasn't a prophetic word. He was preaching on TV
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and I was listening to it and it just it
lit my spirit up. And when God gave me this
word was in the middle of March. And I live
in Vega, Texas and farming ranch in Vega, Texas. And
March the fifteenth, I don't know what the wind speed was,
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but it was ever been a sixty to eighty mile
an hour gus. And I had land blowing and I
was plowing up some wheat that I'd planted double crop
behind some cotton from last year, and I was plowing
it up. I was stripping it to try to stop
it from blowing. It a farm along I forty west
of Vega some and I was trying to stop land
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from blowing. You remember when they had the hundred and
something head car pile up in canyon on I twenty seven.
It was that day and I was blowing across I forty.
I didn't know the I twenty seven, but I was
trying to get out there and get stuff stopped. Thankfully,
I didn't have a wide, wide area to stop land
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from blowing, but you know, I was just trying to
prevent something like that from happening. And then later I
come home that night hear that on the news.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
But so I remember that day very well. My wife,
we lost a fence at the house here, but I
was in Jackson, Mississippi Ministry.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You were glad you missed the Texas.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
We didn't even know it blew up that well. It
was windy there but not right here.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, it was. I had some friends in the Hill
Country that I'm also a county commissioner and in county government,
so I've been on some boards across the state, and
so I have some commissioner friends that are down in
the Hill Country and they were kidding me about all
the dirt that blew down there. And then the next
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day they texted me back, said I think we're sending
it all back because it was even blowing in the
hill country that time, and when God gave me this word,
and what he said to me is he said, twenty
twenty five is the year of harvest and plunder. And
that word plunder can mean several things. It's double portion.
You already mentioned the double portion. And the double portion
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isn't as early just two of everything. It's it's it's limitless,
it's just overflowing blessing and and and you know, God
always speaks to the contradiction of what a day to
get a word of harvesting plunder. I was driving around
talking on the two way radio to my sons, telling
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them where I could see land blowing so they could
hurry up and get tractors in different spots to stop
land from blowing with chisel plows. And I get that word,
and I'm just like, I know that's you, Lord, because
there's no way I could come up with something that
in the flesh looking at what I'm looking at today.
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And I can just tell you, in my in my
personal business, my personal life, I've seen it. And I
chase some storms. Uh. And when I say I'm a
storm chaser, I don't mean I'm a stormchaser to run
out and see how bad it is. I believe that
God's given us authority as believers if we realize who
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we are in Christ. I'm not talking about doing this
under my own power. This is what Jesus got and
paid for us as believers. Absolutely, we're to speak to
the storms. And so for a week I went out
every night speaking to the clouds, commanding hail storms to
just disintegrate, and watch them just disintegrate on my phone
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on the radar, and it haled around and I didn't
I didn't even tell them to part and go around.
I don't want to wish that off on my neighbor either.
And so there's a story I always tell about Bill.
This is probably twenty years ago. Bill his boys were little.
They were out in the barn and a tornado was
coming at him in his barn. He's got a nice
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barn and the roof was just lifting. It was a
little barn and he was in there and man, they
were throwing down in the spirit. His boys were praying.
They were little bitty guys. And he said the name
of Jesus, storm, you go around. And so I always
kid Bill, I said, you should have told it to disintegrate,
because that tornado went around his house and barn and
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went across the road and he had a pivot on
the other side of the road that flipped. And I said,
you know, that's where you missed it. I kid him
all the time. I said, you should have it to disintegrate.
And I really believe the Holy Spirit just put that
in my heart. You know, our words carry so much
power and authority.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They do, they do, and we have I mean, I
think as believers, I think we have no idea what
power we really do. How I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Know, the Word says that we're give an account for
every idle word that we seek. You know what that means.
There's no such thing as an idle word.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I called for a crop failure on some of the
things I said in frustration, and I called for a
harvest on the righteous things that I proclaim. And so
I'm proclaiming that this word and then the Lord, this
is the most important part of this word is then
the Lord. I just I prayed about it. And this
is at the infant stages when the Lord was showing
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me this, and I was just soaking this up like
a sponge and I mean, it was just one of
those you know, when the Holy Spirit is speaking to
your heart, you just can't get enough of it. And
it's so good. And you know, the word talks about
you know, it's it's like sweet to the lips, like
honey to the lips. And then and then and then
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it talks about that you spew it out of your mouth.
It comes bitter to the stomach and you spew it out. Well,
that's what the Lord showed me is this word isn't
of a just for me. This words for the body
of Christ. And and so it's in Isaiah chapter six.
And you know, we know Isaiah chapter six is the
Christmas the Christmas scripture, you know, of the increase of
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His government and peace. There shall be no end. I mean,
I'm sorry, not Isaiah chapter six. I'm looking at Judges
six right now. Isaiah chapter nine. Forgive me Isaiah nine.
I got to get back over here. Been doing all
this talking, and I hadn't been turning to Isaiah. In
Isaiah chapter nine. This is what he paid the price
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for us. Here we go, all right. And you know
in Isaiah chapter nine six it says for undo us
a child is born unto us, a son is given,
and the government will be upon a shoulder. His name
will be called Wonderful counselor Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince
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of Peace. You know, we've seen that in Christmas carols,
but it's right ahead of that. In beginning in verse two,
it says, the people who walked in darkness have seen
a great light. Those who dwelt in the land of
the shadow of death death upon them a light as shine.
This is prophesying. Oh hey, that's sweet, I see you
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have that up on the This is prophesign of Jesus' birth.
This is prophesign of Jesus' resurrection. What he paid the
price for us. It says, those who dwelt in the
land of the shadow of death, upon them a light
is shine. Verse three, you have multiplied the nation and
increased its joy. They rejoiced before you, according to the
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joy of harvest, as men rejoice when they divide. The
spoil or another word for spoil is plundered. For you
have broken the yoke of his burden, and the staff
of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor, as in
the day of Midian. That's really key right there. If
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somebody's watching this, and you want to get you want
to get this word down in you as in the
day of Midian, and the n IV says, as the
day of Midian's defeat, of all the things the Holy
Spirit picked to talk about that Jesus, they used the
battle of Midian's defeat. I think that's just really interesting
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to me, because you remember Gideon was hiding in a
wine press and then the Angel of the Lord appeared
to him and said, hell, mighty man of valor, or
another word for valor in that instance is hey, mighty warrior.
And he's hiding in a wine press from the enemy,
just trying to get some wheat ground up, to make
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some flour, to get some bread, to hide from the Midianites,
the Amlochites, and many men of the east. It talks about,
and so you know, that's a whole other sermon. But
that Angel of the Lord is calling things which be
not as though they were. He's calling him forth as
a mighty warrior. When he was hiding like a scared
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dog in a wine press from the enemy the whole time,
living in the most fertile land of Israel. So he
so he lived in this fertile land that was abundant.
But if you look in Judges chapter six, as in
the day of Midians defeat, it's talking about that defeat
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when Gideon defeated all of those many great people of
the East and the Median Nites, I call them all
those heights. Anyway, he destroyed them. And how'd he do it?
With three hundred men? And you know, I mean it
was only God. And they said they were too numerous
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to count. And when they came in, they're animals, camels
and everything were so numerous to count that they destroyed
the land. It was like locusts that just they moved
through in land and left poverty and blight and famine.
And so God says to him, says, uh, you know,
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I give you this land, you know, but you know
he had to do a few things. And we can
get into that a little bit if we have time.
But the main thing I want to talk about is
this word is not just for me. If you're watching this,
and I believe the Lord gave me permission to tell you.
First off, this is what Jesus paid the price for.
It's available to us three hundred and sixty five days
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a year, every year, he really wants to emphasize it
this year. He wants you to really press into it.
And that's what he spoke to my heart. Holy Spirit
just said, I want you to press into this word
and really see it. And so when I would chase
those scorms off, you know what I'd say, I'd say,
listen to me, clouds. This is the year of harvest
and plunder, no play. And that means hell and tornadoes,
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no plague comes nigh my dwelling or my crops. And
so I just prophesied that over took the I took
the word of the Lord, and then I released it
over my crops. So somebody has say, man, that guy's
crazier in the Hohodel. Well leave me alone in my idea.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You know one thing, one thing I would have added
right here, and that is that, you know, God, God
wants us to know who we are. And I think
I think one of the problems is we don't really
know who we are in Christ. We you know, we
we have this way of thinking that just deals with
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the five senses, and we need to get that sick
sense going in and the mind of Christ and get
the the understanding of the world you find you find
it in the word of God. But if you get
it in your spirit and you start believing it, you
believe who He says you are, and that's and then
you can say what He says for you to say.
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And that's where the power comes from, and that's where
the that's where the real change comes from. It's not
us that's doing this stuff. It's us suiting up in
Jesus and letting him do what it may, you know,
accomplish His will through us. Man, what a difference, What
a big difference. And that's that's your word right there.
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It's so much about who we really are and who
God sees us to be. Just like Midian, he was calling,
he was calling something he wasn't because he was a
coward hiding out. He wasn't he wasn't demonstrating what God
was was calling, that's for sure. And maybe you're in
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the same place. But but we can change that because
we have the Greater One and everything in us. Amen.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
He speaks to the potential that he's seizing you. The
Bible says he knew every hair on your head, He
knew you before you were formed in your mother's womb,
and He's speaking to your potential inside you. May be
you may have a needle stuck in your arm right now,
and somehow you ended up on this, uh, this show.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know, I don't know what kind of situation, but
God is speaking to the potential. Jeremiah twenty nine eleven says,
for I know the plans that I have for you, says,
the Lord plans to give you a hope and a future.
And I love what the King James version says, to
give you an expected end. And you know what that
expected end is. It's what he prophesies over you in
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his word. He calls you the righteousness of God in
Christ Jesus. He's speaking to you as that mighty man
of valor. Amen. And so I just say, rise up,
mighty man of valor and women of valor that are
out there, and just receive this word. Twenty twenty five
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is the year of harvest and plunder. Freddie, you're still there.
You may have switched off. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, I'm just I just moved out of the way.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Okay, No, you're good. I just I wanted to make
sure we didn't go off there. If you go back
to if you go back to verse two. I just
kind of want to talk about a few things that
the Lord just really showed me. The people who walked
in darkness. I mean, you know, I'm sad to say
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that there's a lot of Christians out there who are
walking in darkness. You know, maybe you've said, well, you
never know what God is going to do. You never know. Yes,
you do. You have the mind of Christ holy spirit.
He says, I'll not leave you orphans, but I'll send
the helper, the one who comes alongside the Peracletos, the
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helper who will guide you into all truth and show
you all things to come. We don't have to be
walking in darkness. We walk in the light, it sayst
But they have seen a great light. That's when the
revelation of who Fred was talking about. When you talked
about that, Fred, you're you're just you're just saying it
in your words of two. They've seen a great light.
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It's revelation knowledge. Those who dwelt in the land of
the shadow of death. If you're walking in fear out there,
you know we're surrounded by the shadow of death. Number one,
just the most basic is people who are afraid of dying.
You know, and I mean, this may be getting off
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in the weeds, but I feel like Holy Spirit wants
me to say it. How many times do you hear
when someone passes away. My mother was ninety three and
I preached her homegoing service, and somebody said, how'd you
do it? I said, that's easiest message I ever preached.
My mom and I talked about her going to be
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with the Lord. She was ready to go. I mean,
how could I be sad when I know where she is.
She's in glory, and it's only selfishness that wants to
keep them back. Yes, I understand, you know, when we grieve,
but grief is really for ourselves. It's not for those
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if they're believers. Now, if they're not believers, that's a
different story. I'm talking about believers. Us as believers, Why
would we Why would we be sad when someone goes
to be with the Lord man if they knew Jesus, Hey,
this life that we live in here now is just
a it's just a vapor. It's a temporary sliver of
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time for all eternity. And so uh, you know, we
need to really realize who we are in Christ and
what He's paid for and right here. He's paid for
us to be enlightened and to not be afraid of
the shadow of death, because that's all it is, a shadow.
It's just like remember when you were little and you
shine a flashlight on your hand up on the wall,
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and it looks like a big monster with rabbit ears,
you know, and you'd shine that light on that. It
was a big shadow. But that's all it was, was
a shadow. It was a harmless shadow of your fingers
looking like a bunny rabbit up on the wall. And
so you know, we've been delivered from the shadow of death.
You know, it's where we grew up. Actually, it's where
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we grew up before we grew up in the Word.
And uh so many Christians, you know, you hear, they
forget who they are. They still talking about who they
were apart from the grace of God. I'm just an
old sinner. No, you were an old sinner. You've been
saved by grace. Now you call the righteousness of God
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in Christ Jesus and you know. And then it goes
on in verse three it says you've multiplied the nation
and increased its joy. I'm telling you, when you get
a revelation.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Of what Jesus you're at first, Peter.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
No, I'm still in Isaiah. Uh, I'm still in Isaiah
chapter nine.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh sorry, I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
At verse three. You've multiplied the nation and increased its joy.
They rejoice before you, you know. I mean, it's the
joy of the Lord. That's our strength, and it's the
joy of the Lord. Whenever we realize who we are
fred in Christ. Man, when you start realizing who you
are in Christ, you're not some insignificant worm. You're not
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some old worm, dirt, old sinner. I didn't say you
might not a sin, but you've been made the righteousness
of God. And when we get away from that sin,
consciousness and and and meditate on who we are in Christ,
then righteousness follows. And it's not about word. I'm not
talking about doing works to be righteous. You already are righteous.
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And so you know. It says it increased His joy
and they rejoice before you, according to the joy of Harvest.
I want to read it out. I love what it is.
I usually am not a big n IV guide, but
it's I like it says, as the people rejoice harvest,
as men rejoice when dividing the plunder, for as in
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the days of Midians, defeat of all the things for
it to describe what Jesus paid the price for us
on the cross. It's saying, it's like the defeat of
the Midians. In other words, it's talking about that battle
of getting had picked, that battle of all things that
they were, you know, three hundred men. God kept whittling
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it down, so they couldn't say they did it on
their own. It had to be supernatural. And it was
just three hundred men who went out with some torches
under a picture and they broke it and they said,
I can't remember the arm of the Lord or something.
And here's the next part. Those Midianites and the men
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of the East, all that bunch of them, It said
that they turned and they killed each other trying to
get away, and they dropped and left all of their goods,
all of the spoils of the battles that they had stolen,
and a lot of it was stolen from the Israelites,
and they left all of that, and so Gideon's army
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chased them down. They killed each other, and they got
the spoil. So first off, when all the Midianites ran off,
and the men of the East, when they ran off.
That was the harvest because they left the land and
now it could flourish again. That was the harvest. But
then the plunder is they left all of the spoils
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of battles. They had stolen. What the devil, I'm telling
you what the devil is stole from you, guys that
are listening here, those who will received this word. What
the devil is stolen from you? Maybe he's stolen your health,
maybe he's stolen finances from you, and you know, maybe
you made some bad decisions. But I'm telling you, the
grace of God is bigger than your decisions. And so
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that's the plunder. That's the double portion. Not only is
God got harvest in your life, but when the enemy's caught,
he's got to give back seven times what he's stolen.
That's what the word says. So that's the plunder. And
you know we called it the double portion while ago,
well double portion. You know it's more than just two times.
(32:23):
I mean, think about it when you look back at
the at the double portion. It's the jubilee, is what
it really is. Jesus is our jubilee. And in Luke,
let's see, I think it's Luke is it Luke fourteen.
When Jesus stood up and prophesied who he was out
of Isaiah chapter sixty one, Luke four. I think it's Luke.
(32:51):
For excuse me, I wasn't planned on saying this, but
it's Luke four eighteen. Jesus went into the synagogue as
was his uh, this was his practice, and he grabs
this is his first sermon that he ever preached. These
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are the first words that Jesus preached. The spirit of
the Lord is upon me because he's annoyting me to
preach the gospel to the poor. First off, gospel, what
is that. It's called good news. It's not a harsh
goods There's no such thing as a harsh gospel. Gospel
means good news. And if what's good news to the poor,
(33:32):
you don't have to be poor anymore. God, God will
prosper you. He sent me to heal the broken hearted
and to proclaim liberty, freedom to those who are captive,
recovery of sight to the blind, to set it liberty
those who are oppressed, and to proclaim the acceptable year
of the Lord. The acceptable year of the Lord is
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the year of jubilee. It's the it's the double portion.
And you know, uh in Leviticus he talks about and
you know Colossians chapter two says these laws are all
just shadows of better things to come. I mean, you
remember on the seventh day that they couldn't gather anything.
(34:15):
He said, I'll give you the double portion on the
sixth day. Well, think about it when I say double
portions more than just too So think about in the
seventh year. In the seventh year, on the sixth year,
he gave them enough for the whole next year, he
gave them more than enough to cover the next year.
(34:36):
But think about it on the fiftieth year, the year
of jubilee. On the forty ninth year, which was the
seventh year, you couldn't plant. So on the forty eighth year,
he had to give you enough for those two years.
Plus it takes a whole another year. When you sew
a crop. As a farmer, I realize it takes a
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whole another year of that crop to grow before you
have a harvest. So for three years on the forty
eighth year, he gave him enough for three years. That's
what I call provision. That's what I call.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And that's just a more than enough.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Brother, more than enough. You know, I can hear I
can maybe hear some religious thoughts out there, probably not
your audience, but I can. I've heard religious thoughts out
there in the past. Say, well, brother, you know, he
just says he'll just give us to me darn needs.
But it says, according to his riches in glory, he's
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el should I not an el chiapo. He's the dog
more than enough. And we treat him religiously like he's
just a cheapo and he's just going to give us
enough to get by, just enough. No, that's the government.
That's the government, and it ain't even enough to get by.
The governor. Government's not your source. So anyway, Uh, the
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Lord just put that on my heart, and every where
I go, I'm proclaiming it, I'm preaching it. And you know,
there were some things that Israelites had to do it
just for six they had turned to idols. You know,
it's you need to look at your life. What are
the idols in your life? You need to just get
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those out. It doesn't mean that the Lord from a
New Testament perspective, it doesn't mean that God's angry with you.
He still loves you, but you just need to get
those out of the way of your life. They're clogging
I like to say it like this, they're clogging the arteries.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Of Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Just in the way God wants to get it to you.
And then they realized that, oh we've messed up, and.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Mhm, so powerful. That's that's just so powerful and it's
really true. You know. The whole issue that we have
is we have, you know, the ability to come against
that sort of thing and to stand against that thing.
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If we realize who we are, then we can stand
in the authority and the power and the blessing that
God wants to pour entire life. And it's just like
Roger's talking about, I think he's trying to sign back
in here. Hang on just a minute. I'll get him
back up here. But it's it's fundamentally important for us
(37:32):
to be able to well, let's see, I thought, I
thought maybe he was going to sign back in and
hang on just a minute, let me see if I
can't get him back up again, Roger, there no anyway anyway.
(37:59):
The the strength in the power of the of the
word that he's bringing, everybody needs to really focus in
on it because God wants to bless you. He wants
you to have He wants you to have, you know, abundance.
He wants you to be able to stand in that
double blessing and even more more than enough. He is
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a god of more, and so that's what he wants
for you, that's what he wants for me. If we're believers,
we are well able to stand in what he has
for us. And it's Rodgers back again. I'm just saying
that so important that we really do understand who who
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we are in him, because that's where the real power lies,
and that's that's where the blessing is going to come from.
But he's ready to bless us.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
He wants, he wants to bless you more than we
actually want to be blessed.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
That's the heart of God. And you know what happens
to us is like when we get in that shadow
of darkness and the shadow of death all of that,
what do we do? We get fearful and then we
draw back and we miss God. We miss God when
he's got a great opportunity for us, but we get afraid,
oh what if it doesn't work? Well, you know, my
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grandmother used to it's maybe not a spiritual saying, but
it is it's a face saying. She used to say,
kick at the moon and if you miss, so what
you know? But we as Christians have been shooting at
nothing and hitting every time. You know, why not shoot
at the big goal? You know? And you talked about
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when you were prophesying over me, which is Isaiah fifty four.
Enlarge the place of your tent. Stretch forth your tent pegs,
you know, make room. We got to make room for God,
and we got to make room for the Holy Spirit
to expand us. I heard this. I heard this. You
may heard it too, fred Uh, I heard I heard
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it third person, but I heard that Jesse. The plan
is Uh. I'm sure you're familiar with his ministry. And
he said, he said the Lord, He said, I was
making goals for the year. And he said, the Lord
just spoke to me and said, so you don't want
to employ me this year. And he said, because I
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was doing it in a budget. And I'm not saying
we don't use a budget, but that's just a beginning,
but stretchers. And he said, well, what do you mean, Lord?
He said, everything you put on, everything you put down
on your prayer concerns about your vision so far has
been something you can do on your own. Yeah, he said,
but if you'll employ me, I'll do supernatural things. Wow,
(40:49):
isn't that good man? I'm telling you, it just went
off in me like a I mean, it went off
like a light bulb in me. Let's stretch our believing
twenty twenty five not only as the year of harvest
and plunder, but to get the harvesting plunder, You're going
to have to stretch your faith. Get out there and
believe God, because if you can do it on your own,
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it's not supernatural, it's just superficial. And so many times
we won't stretch ourselves to believe God. And I was
just talking with my sister earlier today and what came
to mind was the River Jordan. It didn't roll back
and they didn't cross the River Jordan on d ground
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until the priests stepped into the water. You had to start,
and it was at flood stage. I've been to Israel
and I've seen that river. I saw, actually saw the
River Jordan. We couldn't go down and do the baptizing
in the Jordan because it was flooded. So I was
there when it was at flood stage and it probably
was nothing like it was, but they had to stick
(41:58):
their toes in the water first before they saw them
the supernatural take place. And you know, that's just the
way God is with us when we step out in faith,
then he slides his hand under us so we won't fall.
And that's so that's so difficult sometimes to do. It
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is it's called trust.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, we sing it everyone. The one thing I've found
out about God is that He's going to keep you
in a faith posture, you know. I mean, He's always
going to have it set up to where you need
to take a step of faith in order for him
to complete what it is. And it's just we just
call that basically exchange. I exchange what I've got and
(42:43):
he and he and he gives me what he's got.
He's the worst trader I've ever met, but I'm so
glad he is. I get the good deal out of
it every.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Time, Isn't That's something? Yeah? I heard. I heard a
story one time about John hage And this came from
a man that I knew. He was an old prophet
guy and he actually ran John Hagey's hog farm outside
of San Antonio back in the day.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
And you know, the Lord asked John if he would
give that up, and he was, I mean, I think
it was a sizeable hog operation. And I may mess
some of the details up because he didn't go into
a lot of specifics, but he said the Lord just
spoke to him one day and said, you got too
much to do. I'm asking him to lay it down.
So he laid it down. And sometime later, I don't
(43:36):
know if it was within ten years, five years, whatever,
this old boy told me that somebody gave John Hagey
this hunting ranch. It was a showplace, beautiful, this big
lodge on it with the land. And this land was
right there around San Antonio, and said, old brother hage
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He went out there and when he walked on that property, said,
big tears rolled down his cheek and he said, and
all of it, all you asked me to do was
give up a hog farm.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Which that illustrates your story or your analysis. He's a
bad trader.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
He's amazing, you know. And what he wants to give
us is so abundantly more than what we have. And
the worst part of it is we actually already have it.
He's already given it you know, but even before we
ask or think, he knows what we need and he's
(44:38):
already met the need. And so it's you know, for me,
it's just like wow, you know, how can you how
can you even fathom the ways of God? We really can't.
But we can take full advantage of it because that's
what he wants us blessed. He wants us to walk
in power, he wants us to walk in abundance. He
wants us to walk healthy wise. You know. He said
(45:04):
he'd give us wisdom, you know, And all we have
to do is just ask him and fellowship with him,
have a conversation with him, and he will answer. Or
we have need of everything. He even gives us the
faith to do it with amen.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
You know what you said there is so powerful you said,
He's already given it to us already. Stuff. I'm talking
about harvest and plunder. He gave it to us two
thousand years ago. It's just up to me if I
can receive it or not. I mean, I think so
many times that's where we miss it. As Christians. We're
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like a dog chasing our tail. We keep trying to
get something that we already got. All we get we
don't have to beg God for it. We don't ask
him why didn't you give it to me? God? We
just didn't say where did I miss it? Lord? Where
did I miss it? Because You've already given me. I
always use the illustration of Bill, my ministry partner. I
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don't know why I always throw him under the bus
like this, But I say Bill got saved in nineteen
ninety eight at a walk to a mais. Wow, Jesus
didn't crawl up on a cross in nineteen ninety eight
and say, Bill Grochy, I'm doing this for you. I
said he did that two thousand years ago. But in
nineteen ninety eight on a walk to a mais, Bill
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finally got revelation of that and he received it. You know,
Bill didn't say, oh, hey, would you do this for me? God?
Would you do? But with it's like we get born
again and then we try to talk God into all
these things. He's already given it to us.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Did he already? And you know some Christians have so
much trouble with the sin thing because you know, just
think about it. You know, God had to forgive you
of all your sins two thousand years ago, you know,
like not like hanging around waiting on you to, you know,
(47:04):
commit your next sin so he can crawl back up
on the cross to take care of it. He's already
done it. It's already a done deal. And in the
same way our blessings are waiting us, in the same
way as our as forgiveness for our sin. He's already
completed everything he needs to do in our behalf. Everything.
(47:26):
That's mind boggling to me, But it's that's the truth.
That's what the Bible clearly spells out. Yes, why Chris,
so many Christians miss it because of the wrong teaching
and and and our our our thinking in terms our
fleshly thinking of just thinking concerning those five senses that
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we have. You know, if we can't see it or
touch it, or smell it or taste it, well we
don't believe it's there, you know type. But now now
you know, word of God reveals a lot more.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Oh man, I'm telling you, you know, I don't know if
you were you may not have been like me. I
was a knucklehead. I didn't know the word of God
for anything. And anyway, I didn't know the Word of
God for anything. So why, you know, why would we
confuse what God has really wants for us with the
(48:23):
Word of God. He clearly tells us what he wants.
But tradition, you know, I think it's Mark seven thirteen
basically says the tradition of men has made the word
of God of no effect, and so you know, it's
some religious idea. I had these ideas. I was thirty
two years old before I realized God cared about my business.
(48:46):
I thought all he cared about was me getting to heaven. Well,
if that was what it was about, why he when
he preached the kingdom, he didn't. He said, the kingdom
is now now, you know, Eternity starts right now. And
when we get born again, if it was all about
getting to heaven, just just to get which that would
be enough. But if it was all about getting to heaven,
(49:09):
well he might as well just come down and knocked
us in the head and drug us off to heaven.
You know. But but that was the first step. I
always call it. Getting born again is the diaper stage,
you know. And then you supposed the Bible says in Hebrews,
you know, to get out of milk and turn the
strong meat. But unfortunately, many Christians never get past the
(49:33):
the the formula stage. And uh, and so when you
realize what's available to us, of what all he really
paid the price for. It's so you said it, it's
mind bug. You can't comprehend it except through revelation spirit
man with the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
And that's exactly what happens whenever you get born again. Uh,
you know. And John first for h John three two, three,
two five and seven I think it is or three
five and seven. It just says, you can't see into
the Kingdom of God until you're born again, and you
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cannot enter into the Kingdom of God unless you're born again.
And then in verse seven says, don't be surprised when
I said you need to you need to be born again.
I mean, it's it's the bottom line. It's essential that
we are born again so that we can we become
(50:35):
children of God. Another verse says that he gives us
power to become sons, our daughters of God's that's amazing.
He empowers us to become his brother, his equal. Really,
he has set us into the place where we receive,
(50:59):
you know, the ability to become a child of God.
That is just completely mind boggling to me. There you are,
there you go anyway. That that blows my mind that
we can even become a child of God. But once
we become a child of God, then we need to
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be empowered to do the work of the ministry, to
do his to It talks about, you know, becoming a
part of the kingdom and operating in the kingdom. You know,
it's one thing to get born again. It's another thing
to grow up and actually become real functional. So it's
important for every Christian to grow up and to mature
(51:41):
and to become viable in the kingdom.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Well, this word that the Lord gave me twenty twenty five,
I believe the Lord spoke to me. I realize we're
starting to run out of time, and so I want
to be sure and just proclaim this over the people.
Just do it. The Lord spoke to me that this
is the year of harvest and plunder. Now this may
be what is this is August, but I believe, first off,
(52:07):
this word applies for all the time. But I want
to I just want to proclaim this over you that
over the next twelve months, if you'll meditate on this
the year of harvest and plunder, and you can go
to Billanroger dot com.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Well, we seem to be dropping out and hang on
just a minute. He'll come back in. But Bill and
Roger dot com. That's where if you go there, Uh,
there's some places in there in there that I'm sure
that kind of give you the layout on how to
get born again, how to be filled with the spirit,
how to do a lot of different things as well,
A's Decision one dot Org. Uh, there's there's good material
(53:04):
in there. Uh, if you'll go there, I've got a
book it's called Beside the Still Waters, and that book
is a is a book. It talks about how do
how do you get born again? And how do you
become filled with the Holy Spirit? Those two things. It
talks about in in depth and gives you lots of
scripture references. So we don't want you going without the
(53:30):
understanding that you need in in doing and receiving what
God has for us. Let me see if I can
get Roger back up here one more time. There is
there is.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
I just want to say that you can. I know
we talked about this pretty light, but I've preached several
messages on this and uh, you can go to Billanroger
dot com you can go to archives shows. I want
to introduce to you something that's pretty new. We're on
YouTube now. You can just YouTube Bill and Roger ministries
(54:06):
and pull us up and I just encourage you to
subscribe or whatever you call that, like subscribe, I don't
know what you call it on YouTube, but anyway, you
can see our ministry on YouTube. Or we also have
a podcast. It's called Extraordinary Living All one word extraordinary
(54:29):
is one word I mean. And then Living with Bill
and Roger and that's a podcast. You can get it
on your Apple. You can get it on your iPhone.
Just go to the Apple, y'all. So can get it
on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, that's good anyway, Bill and Roger dot com and
they will have some links over there. Billanroger dot com,
I'm sure, so avail yourself of that and hopefully would
give Roger back on one more time. I'd love for
(55:02):
him to close close out and pray for us. So uh,
but we thank you for coming to the show tonight.
We thank you that that Jesus is your Lord, and
that's what we want to know. We want you to
know as a as a group, and we want you
to proclaim that same same good news to other people.
(55:26):
Let me see if I can't get him back to
just a second, here, one more opportunity, just second, Here
we go, Hey, there we go. There, Yeah, let's let's uh.
I'd like for you to go ahead and pray for
people right quick. But but uh, Bill and Roger dot com, right, Bill.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
And Roger dot com. And you can go on Spotify
with if you've got a something other than an iPhone
or an appts anyway, So let's get past that. I
just want to pray over the people. Father God, I
thank you in the name of Jesus for what you've paid
for each and every one of us. I thank you
this This word is a more sure word of prophecy. Yes,
(56:12):
if we need a word spoken over us, all we've
got to do is look in this word and see
what you have spoken over us for thousands of years.
And I thank you Lord. For those people who are
out there, they don't walk, I proclaim over them, they
will not walk in darkness nor of the shadow of death.
For they have seen a great light. And that light
is called the Light of Jesus Christ, the light of
(56:35):
the world, and the light by the Holy Spirit. And
I just pray enlightenment into their hearts. Holy spirits speak
to them, change their lives forever, and we release the
year of harvest and plunder over them. Yes Jesus's name,
thank you Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
Roger, so thank you for joining us tonight and bringing
a good word. Man, just awesome. I love it when
you come on the show. You always have an exciting
zeal to you, and I think that's what we all need.
We all need to be pumped up just a little bit.
There's been so many, so much bad news across the world.
There's it's time for a little good news, amen.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
And God is doing great things in the land of
the living. We need to just slip to that.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
You know, it's exciting time to be alive and and uh,
you know, I just it's just it's just so hard
sometimes to to find people that are up and want
to lift up people. And uh, there's so many things
(57:42):
to be negative about. But you know, God is still
on the throne. He didn't wake up yesterday going like,
oh no, I didn't think about that. He's got it
all under control. He's one hundred percent. And uh, and
so we need to just walk in the joy of
the Lord. But the joy of the Lord is our strength.
(58:05):
And if you want to strengthen yourself and the Lord,
we'll just go and get in, get yourself stirred up
in joy, and then minister to the to the Lord himself.
Just watch what happens, Amen, Roger, once again, thank you
so much for joining us. Man, I'm excited about it.
We appreciate it so much.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
When you come on, well, thank you Fred, love your
ministry love. You appreciate the opportunity to get to share.
You know, you can't serve the Lord without being excited. Man,
It's freedom, it's liberty. You know.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
We have the best news ever.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
Amen, Amen, nearly be true news.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
There you there, you win. I'll tell you, it's just
it just gets gooder and gooder. Hey, listen, let me
just remind you. We have a prayer line. I'll put
that number up there. It's eight o six three fourth
zero zero one sixth. You give them that call. You
have people that speak Spanish English either one that will
(59:05):
minister to you. Join us again. Next week seven o'clock
we'll have another. We have some more folks lined up.
I have I have an exciting I've got a whole
bunch of people. I'm booking in, uh toward the end
of October right now. So I've got I've got some
great people coming on the show. I'll tell you what
(59:26):
you're going to be blessed if you'll just keep tuning
in and share that the link with somebody else and
and help us to, you know, get the gospel out
by sharing some of the good news that we'll put out.
And so be blessed with that and join us again
next next Thursday, seven o'clock. Amen, seven time, Roger, see
(59:49):
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