October 22, 2025 • 39 mins
This episode is a full-circle moment. I coached Brandon Canady back in Montgomery, Alabama when he was just a quiet, focused kid with big potential — and now he’s a father, basketball coach, and founder of BST (Blood, Sweat & Tears), a clothing brand built on resilience and real life lessons. Brandon went from Brewbaker Tech High School to playing at the University of New Orleans, and today he’s using his story to teach others how to work hard, stay humble, and turn pain into purpose. We talk about:
💭 Growing up in Montgomery and being coached hard but loved harder
🏀 What basketball taught him about life, leadership, and self-belief
🔥 The meaning behind BST — Blood, Sweat & Tears
👕 Building a purpose-driven brand that inspires others to keep going Follow Brandon & his brand:
👉 Instagram: @nadyswishh
👉 BST Clothing: @bst_thebrand
🎙️ The Front Porch Chronicles is about real stories, real growth, and the people who remind us that legacy isn’t what you leave behind — it’s who you lift while you’re here.
#TheFrontPorchChronicles #BrandonCanady #BST #BloodSweatAndTears #BasketballPodcast #MontgomeryAlabama #BrewbakerTech #UniversityOfNewOrleans #MotivationalPodcast #PurposeDrivenLife #SouthernStorytelling #FaithOverFear #LegacyBuilding #ClintonFoshee
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💭 Growing up in Montgomery and being coached hard but loved harder
🏀 What basketball taught him about life, leadership, and self-belief
🔥 The meaning behind BST — Blood, Sweat & Tears
👕 Building a purpose-driven brand that inspires others to keep going Follow Brandon & his brand:
👉 Instagram: @nadyswishh
👉 BST Clothing: @bst_thebrand
🎙️ The Front Porch Chronicles is about real stories, real growth, and the people who remind us that legacy isn’t what you leave behind — it’s who you lift while you’re here.
#TheFrontPorchChronicles #BrandonCanady #BST #BloodSweatAndTears #BasketballPodcast #MontgomeryAlabama #BrewbakerTech #UniversityOfNewOrleans #MotivationalPodcast #PurposeDrivenLife #SouthernStorytelling #FaithOverFear #LegacyBuilding #ClintonFoshee
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-front-porch-chronicles--5999017/support.
🎧 Front Porch Chronicles — real conversations on healing, growth, fatherhood, and fighting through it. ▶️ Full Episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thefrontporchchronicles
🤝 Collabs / Booking: (949) 933-4349 • thefrontporchchronicles1@gmail.com
🔔 Subscribe & drop a comment—tell us what hit home.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up everybody? All right? So look for these of
y'all that don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Back in the day, I coached little league football for
the YMCA, the East Montgomery nos D is this kid.
He didn't say much still probably don't say much, but boy,
when that whistle blow, he was gonna let you know
he was there.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We called it. I called him this silent Assassin always have.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He's grown now with father a man, creator a bst uh.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
This is the front porch Chronicles.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm your host, Clinton Foshe and this is my little
big bro branding Silent Assassin KANATEI.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What's up on, man?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What's going on? What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Man? It's crazy seeing how y'all grown up now? Like man,
I'm like, man, I'm getting old, old, old. But let's
take it all the way back to the foot days.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You know, you were always quiet, but you played like
you had something to prove all the time. What do
you remember most about them? The league days?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh man, we were competitive, just being very competitive seminoles
like Montgomery Alabama. Of course, it was it was kind
of like a team that we had to we had
to really just play at a different level than everybody
else had to play at a different level. So in
(01:36):
order to just keep that like spirit alive and when
the lights come on, you got you gotta come with it.
So yeah, so it's just like with me being quiet,
I had to flip that, flip the switch get to it.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So it was funny when you you fell asleep anywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I remember we rid the games and I'm like, Brandon,
you ain't remember me, and.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I can't do it, Like even I gotta have a
pre game now like that.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I was always into college, like college after college. I
gotta have a pre game now like that.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
That that hps me up, Like okay, I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I'm good. Yeah I needed you know.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
When you were when you were little?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Where did that fire come from within you?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh? Great question, let's see.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Just I just felt like every time I whatever sport,
I just felt like I had to I had something
to prove when I got out there. You know, just
with me being quiet, like a lot of times, a
lot of people, they might talk a big game, so
you might expect a lot from them, but with me
being quiet and not saying too much, they really just
don't know what I'm capable of. So when basketball, football,
(03:05):
step on the field of court, you gotta show it.
And then as I grew older, I feel like I'm
kind of big on reputation. So man, I got a
reputation to uphold. So every time, hey, I gotta come
with it because you really, you really never know, like
who who's out there watching. You know, this might be
the first time seeing you, so.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You got you gotta leave him with an impression.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So man, you know what, it's funny. I ain't gonna
gash you up.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I always when I got ready to roll the dice,
I always knew you were gonna come to play.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You didn't have to. Like he's quiet and he don't.
I'm like, okay, you're gonna show you always. You know,
it's funny because TJ, you know, is the complete opposite. Dude.
He got the high school and he wouldn't know no different.
I remember we were playing this team one time and
they were like, coach, if you don't tell fifty five
(04:06):
to shut up, you've always been.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
It's funny how close y'all were his kids, because y'all
were polar opposites, but y'all both were so competitive and
had this like mutual friendship that despite that because once
you know, it got outside, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, and that probably was another thing just like with
my with my friends, being as competitive, you got to
match the energy like yeah, oh he coming, I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
To that's squad.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
That's squad back yeah, right behind them.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So I live out here in oc So there's modern
day and Saint John Bosto, and man, they get softie
with me because I tell them, bro, if we if
I took a Montgomery team, just some Montgomery and surrounding
I say, Prattville, Montgomery, the Trick.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
County areas and created a dream team, man, they wouldn't
even I don't care Miami, I don't care where it is.
You would come to play with whoever, whenever.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Definitely like and that's and that's one thing I guess
like now how that kind of got like oh, State
and all this, Like if we would have had that
back then.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh man, they didn't want that. They they didn't want
that business.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
At Oh our team was so different.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And then like everybody we grew up, everybody played like
high school college and they played they were like stars.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's that's that team was loaded.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know, we called you the silent assassin because you
didn't talk much but you made plays.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Do you feel like that same energy is in your
life now?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, I can say that, like just naturally I'm quiet.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
But as far as just like growing up, you know
what I'm saying, you have to be more vocal about
a lot of things. But I still try to just
let like whatever I'm doing, like do to talking. Yeah,
I really don't. I really don't try to say too much.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
True story, What did what did football teach you about
handling things in life?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Discipline? For sure?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yelling? I know you had the one coach.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't know his name, I don't know, but yeah,
I definitely remember, definitely remember them.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But even with that, so just with football, like like say,
I'm not saying it was you was yelling, but let's
say it was you who were yelling, Like it comes
with oh, he expects a lot out of me. So therefore,
like I don't take criticism like as something bad. I
(07:09):
take it as good because hey, they expect more out
of me, or they expect me to do more, So
that means I.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Would rather you yell at me, and then you not
yell at me. That means, okay, you don't expect.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Me to do nothing, like yeah, true. And it's crazy
how as you get older you see things because in
the moment.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
You probably you know, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But it was like one of those things sometimes you
see things in kids like you always have because like
about you, you didn't have to relate, but you always
you are smile and I could see you look over
there at me and be like see and it was
(07:55):
one of those things for me. And uh, you know,
as you get older you look back at things and
you're like, man, at the time, I ain't want to
hear that.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I didn't want to, but it pushed outside that comfort
zone to exceed.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah you went. You went on to play at brew Tech.
I went to basketball. I know that's a big part
of your story. What was basketball like at brew Tech?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
So at brew Tech, so that is a magnet school.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
It was just it was a fairly new man in
school and we didn't we didn't have a gym, we
didn't have a gym, we didn't have a weight room, so.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
None of that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And the crazy part is so like my junior and
senior year, we were number two in the state.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Y'all were good.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah. So it's just like, so we had to practice,
we had to travel to like different like community centers.
We used to practice at Good Time Center. So we'll
have our varsity and jv it's four.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Goals in there. We got two teams trying to practice.
So it's just like.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I look back at it, I feel like if we
would have had the resources that they do have now,
like we would have had a couple of state championships.
Really yeah, But at the same time, just in that situation,
I know we're probably gonna go into it, but it's
just like that instilled in me that hey, I gotta
do work on my own on the outside, you know,
(09:36):
So I can't really just I can't rely on a
lot of people. They have the opportunity to go to
the gym, go to their school gym in the morning,
or stay after practice and shoot. Like we had to
take a bus from our school to another school practice
for an hour third to get on the bus and
come back. It wasn't oh, let's thing and get some
shots up, or let's thing and get some more work
(09:57):
in like now we had to leave. So it was
just like, oh, well, we're gonna leave and go to
another gym and get some extra work.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So yeah, just taught me to grime. Man, taught me
to grind for real.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And and not wait on other people or other things,
because that's when you get when you get left back.
You know, how did those high school.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Years playing basketball shape the man competitor.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That you are?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh, let's see.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
It just it played a big part in kind of
just kind of what I just spoke on as far
as just being responsible for everything that that you have
to do, so just pretty much just taking care of
business for yourself, you know, making it happen sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, it's always funny how we get talk wrong
things like doing far self and not waiting on other people.
It's selfish. But in this world we find out, did
you sit back and waiting on everybody else for the hookup?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You're gonna be shocked. Yeah, there ain't but one life.
This ain't no video game.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Fact.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, you got you gotta make you gotta make it happen.
So yeah, so just just being in those situations and
just thinking back on it, it was just like yeah,
like that it allowed me to carry that until like
later on in life, like going to college and different
things like that, so and be able and at the
(11:34):
same time just being leaving that and going to college
like oh, I got a gym. You know what I'm saying,
I got a gym. I could stay even you felt
like you were like man, I'm telling you. And that's
(11:54):
the thing just with that, like I lifted weaights a
little bit in high school, but got to college where
you really had to.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
My athleticism like took off, and I'm like, dang, I
could have really had all of this back then. But
just situations like that allows me to instill it in
my kids, you know, Like.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's what That's what I was gonna say. That's when
it comes back.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
To yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Mm and that's kind of what you know, what I'm saying,
got me like training out, you know, like everything that
I learned through that journey passing it back so that
I'm real big on that.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I'm real big on that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So yeah, so it's crazy to think again y'all got
me feeling, oh, your your dad, How did become a
father change your minds?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
So it goes from Okay, I got I gotta think
of I can't just think of myself, you know, I
gotta make decisions. I gotta make moves based on what's
best for my kids. So it slowed life down a
lot for me.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Of course. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
When you don't have kids, you you you able to
do it in the street. You don't have to answer
to anybody. You could be out late as you want.
I was just talking about it the other day. You know,
I went to the Alabama Tennessee game. It was just
like going to the game. Now I gotta come right
back stranger father mode.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So and then when you it's funny how when you
become a parent, bro, Why you're talking about that?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Man, I know I needed all the time. He got
five of them. Imagine that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, yeah, so you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Real fact, what's the what's the.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Biggest thing fatherhood has taught you about yourself?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Mm hmm let's see that I'm able to.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Let's see that's that's a great question. What has it
talked about one self?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Mm?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I would just say, like he's really showed like I
always thought I was a patient person, but it's really
shown that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You Like, it's a lot of time I would want
to get mad.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
But I think about it, like, man, he's two, he's three,
Like I can't really get mad. He's being a kid,
you know what I'm saying. So sometimes I'll be I'll
be kind of upset, but then I just sit back
and think I got a snapped back, like oh yeah,
like he's being a kid.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
He's doing what kids do. So like not really just patience,
like big on patience.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It funny how sometimes you will see them doing something
and you want to get mad at it, and then
you thank yourself, Damn, I did.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I can't I can't do nothing but laugh. I can't
do nothing but laugh, like I do.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It all the time. I've been pumping my face. I'm
not laughing without laugh all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'm like, man, like he I'm big on. Like we
do his work. She's work on his letters and do
all that. He's three, so he does it well. So
I go in his room.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Man, he he done wrote his ABC's on his wall
like so like I'm bad, Like you can't be right up.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
But at the same time, like he's doing what we've
been working on.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Right on the wall.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, I can't be man.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
So it's just like those are the situation you just
gotta laugh them off. Like, man, he's doing what he's
being talked.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So what kind of example do you want your kids
to see when they look at you?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I really like in their eyes, I really just you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I want to be a person that they feel like
they could just come to about anything, you know what
I'm saying, Like, I don't want them to feel like, oh,
I'm scared to talk to my dad, like I don't
want to tell him this. I want them to feel
like I'm about whatever's going on in their lives. Like
I want them to be able to feel like, oh, hey,
I could come talk to them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So I want to hero to them.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, Like I just want to be like just that
that light in their eye, So that that's kind of
like what I try to approach on a on a
daily basis, just letting them know because especially like now,
just in the society that we live in, like mental
health is big, especially like with kids with the social
(17:00):
media and all this and all that.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Like yep, yeah, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I just started going to like therapy and doing all
of that stuff over the past five years, and it's
crazy how when I started going, I had these negative
tendencies and traits of things that I was doing kind
of almost like self sabotaging because stuff that happened when
I was a kid. And it's crazy how all of
(17:27):
those little things stick with you unless you go back
and you turn. So I tell people all the time,
like when people are like, oh, I'm going to therapy,
and it's like, you can go to therapy for what's
going on in your life now, but you're putting a
band aid on a bullet hole. You don't go back
to that youth and figure out what things happen, what
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things were saying, and what things were done that affected you.
You're gonna keep chasing your tail in a circle. So
I'm big with mine, like instead of getting own to them,
I do get owned to them, but I more saw
them like hey why yeah, Like now I always think
why are they doing that? And I talked to them
(18:11):
and be like, hey, if you want my attention, you
ain't got to do something negative to get attention.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Why don't you just come to me and say hey, look,
you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And mental health is something that we've stigmatized and we
created this almost negative thing for people to come forward
for so long that now that people actually are. I
saw where Doug Martin the running back from the bucks
he kept He's only thirty six years old man, and
(18:42):
he was telling people that he was having problems. I'm
sure probably because of concussions and stuff that had happened.
He went into the wrong house two doors down, police
came in, ended up dying. And it's crazy to think
that there's so many people that don't know how to
work with feelings and emotions right right, right, So it's
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big that you pass that on to your kids. You know,
I know you started up BST. Let's talk about it.
What what is BST stand for?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
All right?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So it has two acronyms, So bst's bloods, when and
tears and then also could stand for or does stand
for like brothers stick together? Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And
just with that so I take so it's it started
out like on the hats because I'm a hat guy.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know what I'm saying. I love hats. I feel
like he throwing the right hat. It's gonna make your
outfit ten times better, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So got it had a hat every time I every time,
anytime I do anything, I'm gonna throwing the hat.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You feel me?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
So that was like even like in college, my decorations,
I'm putting pins up, I'm just putting all my hats
on the wall I didn't have I didn't have pictures
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
My hats took up my whole wall.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So the hats told the story.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
And it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Funny when I talk to people here, because you know
people here in Sokin, they'll wear whatever. And for me,
I'm from Alabama, Montgomery, through and through, no matter where
you take me, I'm still gonna be when I see people.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Why wouldn't I see people with reebox on with Nike socks.
It absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Trying to get people to understand, dude in the gump,
your hat has to match, your socks, has to match,
your fit, has to match your shoes.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And if it don't, you you you lay.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Am I wrong.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
People will be like, why you got were red? You
got on Nike, Nike, Nike, Nike. You don't wear nothing else.
If I wear something, it's gotta.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
All be masks. Brand, gotta be on point, you gotta be.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
On Mixing that gets an abomination. Mixing mixing a datus
with with Nike, like I'll be going to throw a flag.
I said, I'm gonna start getting one of them referee
yellow flags.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I'm just not throwing get throwing them down, Like you
can't be.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Doing So what what is the mission behind BSP?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Really? Just to bring So we circle back to what
we talked about earth Like.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
We start, I really started saying like bst like in
high school or having to push myself so blood sweating tears,
having to push myself to do everything that I was
trying to get, like get to college. So I'll have
to wake up in the one at five o'clock before school,
go run or go to the gym, go to the
YMC and get some shots up. Like that's the blood
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swelln't tends that you gotta put in to get where
you want to be. And then I started like a
couple of my teammates they kind of like, oh you
you do this, Like yeah, like this is our senior year.
We want to we want this to be the best
year basketball wise that that we had, so they kind
of hopped on board. So then it's just like all right,
(22:27):
us when you got a group of people together and
y'all pushing each other like it, You're able to get
a lot more done. And it's not like a lot
of times when you're working out by yourself is born,
you know what I'm saying. But when you got a
group of y'all together that you consider like y'all, y'all,
y'all can sider each other brothers, it's like, okay, hey,
(22:48):
let's let's make this happen.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
So just that.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
So that's kind of where it kind of combined that the.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Funny I tell people because I can't find running, especially
not alone. But if like we got a group of
people working, I can run. But man, if it's just
me and people are like, oh, listen to a podcast
or listening.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Man, I didn't try every kind of music. I didn't
try podcasts. You I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
But if you give me somebody and like, um, naturally,
that dog in me is naturally. If I'm running something,
if they run five miles, I'm trying to run five
point one. If they run five point two, I'm trying
to run five point two point two five whatever it
dow How was running your own brand tested you?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Just with the I'll say, the marketing like posting, h.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Editing, pictures, videos, different things, like it's a lot. It's
definitely a lot to push it so that I'll say
that that's the biggest test. And a lot of times
I'll feel myself like getting complacent, like, dang, I ain't
posted in two three days, Like I gotta go find
(24:13):
some count.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You know, I keep mine in the bank, so like
I'll record stuff as I'm going and then I don't
necessarily post it right then I do it in clips
because man, like, like you said, man, it gets like.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I'll look sometimes I like, dang, I.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Ain't posted in a day or two, or I've gotten
to where now I've got like a follower, So if
I hadn't posted it in a day or two.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
People are dm it. Man you okay, n I ain't
seen you post nothing in a day or two. And
I'm like, man, can't I just kill man.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I'm just vacation, thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I'm trying to go off grid, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Mean, vacation exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So what do you feel like BST makes it stand
apart from the competition?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Just I'll say, I guess just the story behind it, man,
And just.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Because I feel like a lot of brands that I've
seen they might I don't as far as hats. I
don't even think I've seen as far as locally, but
I haven't really just seen like it's just a.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Hat brand, you know, so generic, Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And I just feel with the BST, it's something that
a lot of people could corresonate because it's not really
you don't have to be you don't have to be
like athletics like it could be in the corporate world,
you know, whatever you're trying to get to in life,
Like you don't have to put bloods when the tears
behind it to get there, so you ain't never lying.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah. So I just.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So if you could go back and talk to that
younger version of yourself, what would you tell.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Us, man, Take that leap of faith, Take that leap
of faith, man, Because this is something like I said,
like we I started it in like saying like BSD,
I gotta tell it on me. But it's something that
we were saying like in high school. You know, I'm
thirty five now, like and I'm finally like like it's
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time to do it. It's time to do it. But
it's something that I should have been done. But it's
just like I don't know how people gonna take it
or people gonna really gonna vibe with it and things
like that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
So it's just like, man, take take that leap of faith.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Man, that's the hardest thing.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Whatever you're thinking about doing, man, just do it.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Just go do it.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Just that's that's the hardest thing, is taking that leap
of faith, because we get so comfortable with just doing
the same things and then we're talked to just do
the you're supposed to work.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
In nine to five. Oh you got to go to college.
Oh you gotta do man. Look, I got my ged.
They put me out of Jeff Davis. I don't know
what the name of it is now.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
They put me out of Jeff Davis in eleventh grade,
got my ged, went to college a little wide.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It wasn't really my thing. I went and did the
entrepreneur thing.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It took a long role, but you know what I mean,
Like you said, blood, sweat and tears, sometimes you got
to stand ten toes down. And so kudos to you
for doing that because a lot of people end up dying.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Wondering what else you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Man, Yeah, what what advice would you give to a
young person who is feeling overlooked.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Right now, I would say, first, I'll say, man, get
you you want to get you a mentor just someone
that either somewhere, someone who's like where you're trying to
get to, or someone who who's been there and just
shit down, like just talk with them, pick their brain
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because a lot of times, a lot of kids they
really don't have like anyone to like bounce ideas off
or hey, like this is what I'm trying to do,
Like what advice do you give? So I'll say, man,
just search for mentorship. Like just like with me, I'm
in the gym a lot of time, Like with the
little kids, you know, I want to come up and ask, oh,
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hey man, I'm trying to give them all the game.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
That I can.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's that's that's real. That's where like you want somebody.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
The thing that I've learned the older I get is
I want somebody who's gonna tell me right, but I
also want to somebody who's gonna tell me wrong. And
a lot of times people are so jaded because they
don't they shit stink because they hang around people that
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keep telling them okay, or keep telling them yeah, or
keep co signing on bullshit. When I moved out here
and TJ got medically retired, he went back. Man, everything
in me said, oh man, you gotta go back to,
You gotta go back to. But something deep in me said, man,
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like how you said, you gotta take a leap of faith,
like you got to you gotta stand on business.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
It was hard starting to real estate business where you
know nobody.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I know.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I knew a couple of people out here. People heard
my accent. Some people life that. Some people hated it.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I was, do you know. It's one of those things
that having somebody that you're comfortable with telling you yes,
but also telling you no. That's the biggest thing is
when somebody tells you. People ask me all the time,
and be honest. They see my posts, they see.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
All this and that, and they're like, oh man, you
have so much fun in a fun it's a job.
And what what what do I need to do to
get in real estate? Don't do it. I'm just gonna
keep it one hundred.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
If I didn't have my country bumkin accent, if I
didn't know UFC MMA fighters, if I hadn't done those.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Things and been good and created my own little niche
just to be honest, I would have failed.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I just got that dog and I refused to lose,
and God gave me paths and I learned to not
try to hold open doors God was trying to close,
and the ones he opened I skipped on through.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, no way.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Uh what when you think about legacy, what does that
mean to you?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Legacy, I'll say, more so just.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Get like whatever I have or whatever I'm trying to
trying to get that my kids. My kids are able
to grow up into it, able to pretty much like
give back to them, I'll say.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Even get back to the community, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So it's just like oh yeah, Kanati he he did this,
or oh yeah, just I don't want to say, I'll
say ya, the myth, the man, the legend, you know,
like so, but yeah, just legacy, just just being able
to build something that, you know what I'm saying, that
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my kids are proud of, and that they're able to be.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Like, oh, hey, like this this is mine, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
So yeah, and to think and to think you're passing
down something to them that was blood, sweat and tears.
Think about that coming from with circle. Yeah, you know
you talked about your story and your mission to think
of that, and you've always been the kind, generous, give
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back type. And one of the a million reasons why
even as a kid all the way up, I've always
respected you is because a lot of people get into
a situation where they get some success or they get things,
and they turn their back on people. Now I ain't
saying don't turn your back on some people, because some
people deserve to have backs turned on them, you know
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what I mean. But for the most part, uh, you know,
I kind of am similar in giving back and blood,
sweat and tears.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
What do you hope people say about you in your
journey years from now?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I guess I'll say he he said he was going
to do it, and he did it, and he did
it his way, you know, stand on business, Yeah, I
love it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
What one piece of advice you would leave with everyone
listening right now just looking for a purpose, looking for
peace or just a reason to push through the hard season?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Oh, I would say probably, man, I'll say, just on
some religious and talk talk with God, talk with God.
Shit down, like you always want to be at peace
with yourself, you know what I'm saying. So man, even
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like I'll say to me. I try to when I
wake up, I try to get like my first fifteen minutes,
give him first fifteen minutes to God, like I don't
like to get up, get on my phone or anything
like that.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Like I'm gonna pray. I'm gonna pray people, Pray for
my people.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
And then try to get a little exercise in if possible,
you know, get some movement going. But y'all just saying, man,
just be at peace with yourself and everything else gonna comes.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's one of the biggest things that I've learned over
time is you know, they say, let go and make God,
but in deeper level, that's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Everybody says it, but it's hard.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
When you when you got bills and when you got kids,
and when you got the weight of the world on
your shoulders or you.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Feel like it it's easy.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
And that's when the devil comes in and tries to
swoop in and give you self doubt and give you
take away and rob you of your peace so that
he can kind of convert you into doing stuff that
you don't need to be doing.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
So that's the biggest thing for me. Same thing is
learning how to.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Listen to God and actually trust and know, even when
it looks like there's no sunshine coming, know that whatever
purpose or whatever plan that he has ultimately is gonna
be what it is.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
And part two to that is worried about it ain't
gonna do no good anyway, but it's gonna happen. Whatever's
gonna happen is gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Anyway regardless, Thank you so.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
And then you know, sometimes with that, and then once
someone sees like Okay, hey, like you look back, Oh
I was at this point at one time. Now look
where I'm at, It's like why why not? Why can't
you trust him with anything else? Like he took you
through that to where you're at now.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
So and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Like I tell people like I tell people my story
and they'd be like what, because you know, they automatic
thinking Montgomery, Alabama. We sit around on rocking chairs on
the front porch and I'm no bru I asked people
all the time, I say, have you ever been to Alabama? Yeah,
we've been to such a Oh we where are you from?
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I say Montgomery? They said, oh, we should go for
you better have a bulletproof ben clacking if you want to.
They ain't playing in the gump all the time. You know,
it's funny watching your story come full circle from a
quiet kid on the field to a grown man father
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And that's real growth. And I've always respected you, even
as a youngster for always pushing through and having perseverance.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You've always had that. That's where all that yelling it.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You know, I knew that you had that end us,
but seeing it all and you've grown now is crazy.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But kudos to you.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Are started, appreciated, super.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Proud of you. You know, BST isn't just a brand
and a mindset. Tell other people where they can.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Go follow and get what's going on with bs T.
I'm helping you out with the social media side of it.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, there we go. So the Instagram, Instagram, b s
T underscore the brand. So T H E, B R
A n D. That's the Instagram website, BST the brand
dot net.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
You know what I'm saying. So you'll be able to
get on there see all the merchs that we currently have.
Like I said, it's just now starting, so I'm still
building my inventory. Will definitely be on the lookout. I
got a lot of a lot of things in my
mind that I'm trying to bring to the forefront that
I feel like everybody's gonna like.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
So I'm down with it.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I'm endorsing, and I'm now make sure that I tag
the the Instagram and that I'll.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Put on the YouTube channel. I'll put a link to
the website on their sharing.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Uh. You know, you are a testament to you. Don't
need to be loud to make noise, just be consistent
with your character. Even as a kid.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's my.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
You know, thirty some ideas later and you're still like
I see that little kid, but now as an adult
and still you.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Have that light in that vibrant So keep shining, bro.
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And uh, like I said, I'll tag everything. If you
need me, you know I'm always here. I'm gonna shoot
you my phone number. I appreciate you taking time out
of your day go get them kids tucked in bad.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Take it easy. But I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I appreciate you, all all right, Yeah,
What's up everybody? All right? So look for these of
y'all that don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Back in the day, I coached little league football for
the YMCA, the East Montgomery nos D is this kid.
He didn't say much still probably don't say much, but boy,
when that whistle blow, he was gonna let you know
he was there.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We called it. I called him this silent Assassin always have.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He's grown now with father a man, creator a bst uh.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
This is the front porch Chronicles.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm your host, Clinton Foshe and this is my little
big bro branding Silent Assassin KANATEI.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What's up on, man?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What's going on? What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Man? It's crazy seeing how y'all grown up now? Like man,
I'm like, man, I'm getting old, old, old. But let's
take it all the way back to the foot days.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You know, you were always quiet, but you played like
you had something to prove all the time. What do
you remember most about them? The league days?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh man, we were competitive, just being very competitive seminoles
like Montgomery Alabama. Of course, it was it was kind
of like a team that we had to we had
to really just play at a different level than everybody
else had to play at a different level. So in
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order to just keep that like spirit alive and when
the lights come on, you got you gotta come with it.
So yeah, so it's just like with me being quiet,
I had to flip that, flip the switch get to it.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So it was funny when you you fell asleep anywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I remember we rid the games and I'm like, Brandon,
you ain't remember me, and.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I can't do it, Like even I gotta have a
pre game now like that.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I was always into college, like college after college. I
gotta have a pre game now like that.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
That that hps me up, Like okay, I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I'm good. Yeah I needed you know.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
When you were when you were little?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Where did that fire come from within you?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh? Great question, let's see.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Just I just felt like every time I whatever sport,
I just felt like I had to I had something
to prove when I got out there. You know, just
with me being quiet, like a lot of times, a
lot of people, they might talk a big game, so
you might expect a lot from them, but with me
being quiet and not saying too much, they really just
don't know what I'm capable of. So when basketball, football,
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step on the field of court, you gotta show it.
And then as I grew older, I feel like I'm
kind of big on reputation. So man, I got a
reputation to uphold. So every time, hey, I gotta come
with it because you really, you really never know, like
who who's out there watching. You know, this might be
the first time seeing you, so.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You got you gotta leave him with an impression.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So man, you know what, it's funny. I ain't gonna
gash you up.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I always when I got ready to roll the dice,
I always knew you were gonna come to play.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You didn't have to. Like he's quiet and he don't.
I'm like, okay, you're gonna show you always. You know,
it's funny because TJ, you know, is the complete opposite. Dude.
He got the high school and he wouldn't know no different.
I remember we were playing this team one time and
they were like, coach, if you don't tell fifty five
(04:06):
to shut up, you've always been.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
It's funny how close y'all were his kids, because y'all
were polar opposites, but y'all both were so competitive and
had this like mutual friendship that despite that because once
you know, it got outside, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, and that probably was another thing just like with
my with my friends, being as competitive, you got to
match the energy like yeah, oh he coming, I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
To that's squad.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
That's squad back yeah, right behind them.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So I live out here in oc So there's modern
day and Saint John Bosto, and man, they get softie
with me because I tell them, bro, if we if
I took a Montgomery team, just some Montgomery and surrounding
I say, Prattville, Montgomery, the Trick.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
County areas and created a dream team, man, they wouldn't
even I don't care Miami, I don't care where it is.
You would come to play with whoever, whenever.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Definitely like and that's and that's one thing I guess
like now how that kind of got like oh, State
and all this, Like if we would have had that
back then.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh man, they didn't want that. They they didn't want
that business.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
At Oh our team was so different.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And then like everybody we grew up, everybody played like
high school college and they played they were like stars.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's that's that team was loaded.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know, we called you the silent assassin because you
didn't talk much but you made plays.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Do you feel like that same energy is in your
life now?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, I can say that, like just naturally I'm quiet.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
But as far as just like growing up, you know
what I'm saying, you have to be more vocal about
a lot of things. But I still try to just
let like whatever I'm doing, like do to talking. Yeah,
I really don't. I really don't try to say too much.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
True story, What did what did football teach you about
handling things in life?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Discipline? For sure?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yelling? I know you had the one coach.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't know his name, I don't know, but yeah,
I definitely remember, definitely remember them.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But even with that, so just with football, like like say,
I'm not saying it was you was yelling, but let's
say it was you who were yelling, Like it comes
with oh, he expects a lot out of me. So therefore,
like I don't take criticism like as something bad. I
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take it as good because hey, they expect more out
of me, or they expect me to do more, So
that means I.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Would rather you yell at me, and then you not
yell at me. That means, okay, you don't expect.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Me to do nothing, like yeah, true. And it's crazy
how as you get older you see things because in
the moment.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
You probably you know, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But it was like one of those things sometimes you
see things in kids like you always have because like
about you, you didn't have to relate, but you always
you are smile and I could see you look over
there at me and be like see and it was
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one of those things for me. And uh, you know,
as you get older you look back at things and
you're like, man, at the time, I ain't want to
hear that.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I didn't want to, but it pushed outside that comfort
zone to exceed.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah you went. You went on to play at brew Tech.
I went to basketball. I know that's a big part
of your story. What was basketball like at brew Tech?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
So at brew Tech, so that is a magnet school.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
It was just it was a fairly new man in
school and we didn't we didn't have a gym, we
didn't have a gym, we didn't have a weight room, so.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
None of that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And the crazy part is so like my junior and
senior year, we were number two in the state.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Y'all were good.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah. So it's just like, so we had to practice,
we had to travel to like different like community centers.
We used to practice at Good Time Center. So we'll
have our varsity and jv it's four.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Goals in there. We got two teams trying to practice.
So it's just like.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I look back at it, I feel like if we
would have had the resources that they do have now,
like we would have had a couple of state championships.
Really yeah, But at the same time, just in that situation,
I know we're probably gonna go into it, but it's
just like that instilled in me that hey, I gotta
do work on my own on the outside, you know,
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So I can't really just I can't rely on a
lot of people. They have the opportunity to go to
the gym, go to their school gym in the morning,
or stay after practice and shoot. Like we had to
take a bus from our school to another school practice
for an hour third to get on the bus and
come back. It wasn't oh, let's thing and get some
shots up, or let's thing and get some more work
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in like now we had to leave. So it was
just like, oh, well, we're gonna leave and go to
another gym and get some extra work.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So yeah, just taught me to grime. Man, taught me
to grind for real.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And and not wait on other people or other things,
because that's when you get when you get left back.
You know, how did those high school.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Years playing basketball shape the man competitor.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That you are?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh, let's see.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
It just it played a big part in kind of
just kind of what I just spoke on as far
as just being responsible for everything that that you have
to do, so just pretty much just taking care of
business for yourself, you know, making it happen sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, it's always funny how we get talk wrong
things like doing far self and not waiting on other people.
It's selfish. But in this world we find out, did
you sit back and waiting on everybody else for the hookup?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You're gonna be shocked. Yeah, there ain't but one life.
This ain't no video game.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Fact.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, you got you gotta make you gotta make it happen.
So yeah, so just just being in those situations and
just thinking back on it, it was just like yeah,
like that it allowed me to carry that until like
later on in life, like going to college and different
things like that, so and be able and at the
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same time just being leaving that and going to college
like oh, I got a gym. You know what I'm saying,
I got a gym. I could stay even you felt
like you were like man, I'm telling you. And that's
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the thing just with that, like I lifted weaights a
little bit in high school, but got to college where
you really had to.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
My athleticism like took off, and I'm like, dang, I
could have really had all of this back then. But
just situations like that allows me to instill it in
my kids, you know, Like.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's what That's what I was gonna say. That's when
it comes back.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
To yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Mm and that's kind of what you know, what I'm saying,
got me like training out, you know, like everything that
I learned through that journey passing it back so that
I'm real big on that.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I'm real big on that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So yeah, so it's crazy to think again y'all got
me feeling, oh, your your dad, How did become a
father change your minds?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
So it goes from Okay, I got I gotta think
of I can't just think of myself, you know, I
gotta make decisions. I gotta make moves based on what's
best for my kids. So it slowed life down a
lot for me.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Of course. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
When you don't have kids, you you you able to
do it in the street. You don't have to answer
to anybody. You could be out late as you want.
I was just talking about it the other day. You know,
I went to the Alabama Tennessee game. It was just
like going to the game. Now I gotta come right
back stranger father mode.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So and then when you it's funny how when you
become a parent, bro, Why you're talking about that?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Man, I know I needed all the time. He got
five of them. Imagine that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, yeah, so you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Real fact, what's the what's the.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Biggest thing fatherhood has taught you about yourself?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Mm hmm let's see that I'm able to.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Let's see that's that's a great question. What has it
talked about one self?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Mm?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I would just say, like he's really showed like I
always thought I was a patient person, but it's really
shown that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You Like, it's a lot of time I would want
to get mad.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
But I think about it, like, man, he's two, he's three,
Like I can't really get mad. He's being a kid,
you know what I'm saying. So sometimes I'll be I'll
be kind of upset, but then I just sit back
and think I got a snapped back, like oh yeah,
like he's being a kid.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
He's doing what kids do. So like not really just patience,
like big on patience.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It funny how sometimes you will see them doing something
and you want to get mad at it, and then
you thank yourself, Damn, I did.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I can't I can't do nothing but laugh. I can't
do nothing but laugh, like I do.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It all the time. I've been pumping my face. I'm
not laughing without laugh all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'm like, man, like he I'm big on. Like we
do his work. She's work on his letters and do
all that. He's three, so he does it well. So
I go in his room.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Man, he he done wrote his ABC's on his wall
like so like I'm bad, Like you can't be right up.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
But at the same time, like he's doing what we've
been working on.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Right on the wall.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, I can't be man.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
So it's just like those are the situation you just
gotta laugh them off. Like, man, he's doing what he's
being talked.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So what kind of example do you want your kids
to see when they look at you?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I really like in their eyes, I really just you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I want to be a person that they feel like
they could just come to about anything, you know what
I'm saying, Like, I don't want them to feel like, oh,
I'm scared to talk to my dad, like I don't
want to tell him this. I want them to feel
like I'm about whatever's going on in their lives. Like
I want them to be able to feel like, oh, hey,
I could come talk to them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So I want to hero to them.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, Like I just want to be like just that
that light in their eye, So that that's kind of
like what I try to approach on a on a
daily basis, just letting them know because especially like now,
just in the society that we live in, like mental
health is big, especially like with kids with the social
(17:00):
media and all this and all that.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Like yep, yeah, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I just started going to like therapy and doing all
of that stuff over the past five years, and it's
crazy how when I started going, I had these negative
tendencies and traits of things that I was doing kind
of almost like self sabotaging because stuff that happened when
I was a kid. And it's crazy how all of
(17:27):
those little things stick with you unless you go back
and you turn. So I tell people all the time,
like when people are like, oh, I'm going to therapy,
and it's like, you can go to therapy for what's
going on in your life now, but you're putting a
band aid on a bullet hole. You don't go back
to that youth and figure out what things happen, what
(17:49):
things were saying, and what things were done that affected you.
You're gonna keep chasing your tail in a circle. So
I'm big with mine, like instead of getting own to them,
I do get owned to them, but I more saw
them like hey why yeah, Like now I always think
why are they doing that? And I talked to them
(18:11):
and be like, hey, if you want my attention, you
ain't got to do something negative to get attention.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Why don't you just come to me and say hey, look,
you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And mental health is something that we've stigmatized and we
created this almost negative thing for people to come forward
for so long that now that people actually are. I
saw where Doug Martin the running back from the bucks
he kept He's only thirty six years old man, and
(18:42):
he was telling people that he was having problems. I'm
sure probably because of concussions and stuff that had happened.
He went into the wrong house two doors down, police
came in, ended up dying. And it's crazy to think
that there's so many people that don't know how to
work with feelings and emotions right right, right, So it's
(19:06):
big that you pass that on to your kids. You know,
I know you started up BST. Let's talk about it.
What what is BST stand for?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
All right?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So it has two acronyms, So bst's bloods, when and
tears and then also could stand for or does stand
for like brothers stick together? Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And
just with that so I take so it's it started
out like on the hats because I'm a hat guy.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know what I'm saying. I love hats. I feel
like he throwing the right hat. It's gonna make your
outfit ten times better, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So got it had a hat every time I every time,
anytime I do anything, I'm gonna throwing the hat.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You feel me?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
So that was like even like in college, my decorations,
I'm putting pins up, I'm just putting all my hats
on the wall I didn't have I didn't have pictures
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
My hats took up my whole wall.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So the hats told the story.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
And it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Funny when I talk to people here, because you know
people here in Sokin, they'll wear whatever. And for me,
I'm from Alabama, Montgomery, through and through, no matter where
you take me, I'm still gonna be when I see people.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Why wouldn't I see people with reebox on with Nike socks.
It absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Trying to get people to understand, dude in the gump,
your hat has to match, your socks, has to match,
your fit, has to match your shoes.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And if it don't, you you you lay.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Am I wrong.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
People will be like, why you got were red? You
got on Nike, Nike, Nike, Nike. You don't wear nothing else.
If I wear something, it's gotta.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
All be masks. Brand, gotta be on point, you gotta be.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
On Mixing that gets an abomination. Mixing mixing a datus
with with Nike, like I'll be going to throw a flag.
I said, I'm gonna start getting one of them referee
yellow flags.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I'm just not throwing get throwing them down, Like you
can't be.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Doing So what what is the mission behind BSP?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Really? Just to bring So we circle back to what
we talked about earth Like.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
We start, I really started saying like bst like in
high school or having to push myself so blood sweating tears,
having to push myself to do everything that I was
trying to get, like get to college. So I'll have
to wake up in the one at five o'clock before school,
go run or go to the gym, go to the
YMC and get some shots up. Like that's the blood
(22:07):
swelln't tends that you gotta put in to get where
you want to be. And then I started like a
couple of my teammates they kind of like, oh you
you do this, Like yeah, like this is our senior year.
We want to we want this to be the best
year basketball wise that that we had, so they kind
of hopped on board. So then it's just like all right,
(22:27):
us when you got a group of people together and
y'all pushing each other like it, You're able to get
a lot more done. And it's not like a lot
of times when you're working out by yourself is born,
you know what I'm saying. But when you got a
group of y'all together that you consider like y'all, y'all,
y'all can sider each other brothers, it's like, okay, hey,
(22:48):
let's let's make this happen.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
So just that.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
So that's kind of where it kind of combined that the.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Funny I tell people because I can't find running, especially
not alone. But if like we got a group of
people working, I can run. But man, if it's just
me and people are like, oh, listen to a podcast
or listening.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Man, I didn't try every kind of music. I didn't
try podcasts. You I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
But if you give me somebody and like, um, naturally,
that dog in me is naturally. If I'm running something,
if they run five miles, I'm trying to run five
point one. If they run five point two, I'm trying
to run five point two point two five whatever it
dow How was running your own brand tested you?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Just with the I'll say, the marketing like posting, h.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Editing, pictures, videos, different things, like it's a lot. It's
definitely a lot to push it so that I'll say
that that's the biggest test. And a lot of times
I'll feel myself like getting complacent, like, dang, I ain't
posted in two three days, Like I gotta go find
(24:13):
some count.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You know, I keep mine in the bank, so like
I'll record stuff as I'm going and then I don't
necessarily post it right then I do it in clips
because man, like, like you said, man, it gets like.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I'll look sometimes I like, dang, I.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Ain't posted in a day or two, or I've gotten
to where now I've got like a follower, So if
I hadn't posted it in a day or two.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
People are dm it. Man you okay, n I ain't
seen you post nothing in a day or two. And
I'm like, man, can't I just kill man.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I'm just vacation, thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I'm trying to go off grid, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Mean, vacation exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So what do you feel like BST makes it stand
apart from the competition?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Just I'll say, I guess just the story behind it, man,
And just.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Because I feel like a lot of brands that I've
seen they might I don't as far as hats. I
don't even think I've seen as far as locally, but
I haven't really just seen like it's just a.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Hat brand, you know, so generic, Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And I just feel with the BST, it's something that
a lot of people could corresonate because it's not really
you don't have to be you don't have to be
like athletics like it could be in the corporate world,
you know, whatever you're trying to get to in life,
Like you don't have to put bloods when the tears
behind it to get there, so you ain't never lying.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah. So I just.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So if you could go back and talk to that
younger version of yourself, what would you tell.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Us, man, Take that leap of faith, Take that leap
of faith, man, Because this is something like I said,
like we I started it in like saying like BSD,
I gotta tell it on me. But it's something that
we were saying like in high school. You know, I'm
thirty five now, like and I'm finally like like it's
(26:26):
time to do it. It's time to do it. But
it's something that I should have been done. But it's
just like I don't know how people gonna take it
or people gonna really gonna vibe with it and things
like that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
So it's just like, man, take take that leap of faith.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Man, that's the hardest thing.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Whatever you're thinking about doing, man, just do it.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Just go do it.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Just that's that's the hardest thing, is taking that leap
of faith, because we get so comfortable with just doing
the same things and then we're talked to just do
the you're supposed to work.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
In nine to five. Oh you got to go to college.
Oh you gotta do man. Look, I got my ged.
They put me out of Jeff Davis. I don't know
what the name of it is now.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
They put me out of Jeff Davis in eleventh grade,
got my ged, went to college a little wide.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It wasn't really my thing. I went and did the
entrepreneur thing.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It took a long role, but you know what I mean,
Like you said, blood, sweat and tears, sometimes you got
to stand ten toes down. And so kudos to you
for doing that because a lot of people end up dying.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Wondering what else you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Man, Yeah, what what advice would you give to a
young person who is feeling overlooked.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Right now, I would say, first, I'll say, man, get
you you want to get you a mentor just someone
that either somewhere, someone who's like where you're trying to
get to, or someone who who's been there and just
shit down, like just talk with them, pick their brain
(28:10):
because a lot of times, a lot of kids they
really don't have like anyone to like bounce ideas off
or hey, like this is what I'm trying to do,
Like what advice do you give? So I'll say, man,
just search for mentorship. Like just like with me, I'm
in the gym a lot of time, Like with the
little kids, you know, I want to come up and ask, oh,
(28:32):
hey man, I'm trying to give them all the game.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
That I can.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's that's that's real. That's where like you want somebody.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
The thing that I've learned the older I get is
I want somebody who's gonna tell me right, but I
also want to somebody who's gonna tell me wrong. And
a lot of times people are so jaded because they
don't they shit stink because they hang around people that
(29:04):
keep telling them okay, or keep telling them yeah, or
keep co signing on bullshit. When I moved out here
and TJ got medically retired, he went back. Man, everything
in me said, oh man, you gotta go back to,
You gotta go back to. But something deep in me said, man,
(29:26):
like how you said, you gotta take a leap of faith,
like you got to you gotta stand on business.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
It was hard starting to real estate business where you
know nobody.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I know.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I knew a couple of people out here. People heard
my accent. Some people life that. Some people hated it.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I was, do you know. It's one of those things
that having somebody that you're comfortable with telling you yes,
but also telling you no. That's the biggest thing is
when somebody tells you. People ask me all the time,
and be honest. They see my posts, they see.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
All this and that, and they're like, oh man, you
have so much fun in a fun it's a job.
And what what what do I need to do to
get in real estate? Don't do it. I'm just gonna
keep it one hundred.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
If I didn't have my country bumkin accent, if I
didn't know UFC MMA fighters, if I hadn't done those.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Things and been good and created my own little niche
just to be honest, I would have failed.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I just got that dog and I refused to lose,
and God gave me paths and I learned to not
try to hold open doors God was trying to close,
and the ones he opened I skipped on through.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, no way.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Uh what when you think about legacy, what does that
mean to you?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Legacy, I'll say, more so just.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Get like whatever I have or whatever I'm trying to
trying to get that my kids. My kids are able
to grow up into it, able to pretty much like
give back to them, I'll say.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Even get back to the community, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So it's just like oh yeah, Kanati he he did this,
or oh yeah, just I don't want to say, I'll
say ya, the myth, the man, the legend, you know,
like so, but yeah, just legacy, just just being able
to build something that, you know what I'm saying, that
(31:41):
my kids are proud of, and that they're able to be.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Like, oh, hey, like this this is mine, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
So yeah, and to think and to think you're passing
down something to them that was blood, sweat and tears.
Think about that coming from with circle. Yeah, you know
you talked about your story and your mission to think
of that, and you've always been the kind, generous, give
(32:09):
back type. And one of the a million reasons why
even as a kid all the way up, I've always
respected you is because a lot of people get into
a situation where they get some success or they get things,
and they turn their back on people. Now I ain't
saying don't turn your back on some people, because some
people deserve to have backs turned on them, you know
(32:33):
what I mean. But for the most part, uh, you know,
I kind of am similar in giving back and blood,
sweat and tears.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
What do you hope people say about you in your
journey years from now?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I guess I'll say he he said he was going
to do it, and he did it, and he did
it his way, you know, stand on business, Yeah, I
love it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
What one piece of advice you would leave with everyone
listening right now just looking for a purpose, looking for
peace or just a reason to push through the hard season?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Oh, I would say probably, man, I'll say, just on
some religious and talk talk with God, talk with God.
Shit down, like you always want to be at peace
with yourself, you know what I'm saying. So man, even
(33:45):
like I'll say to me. I try to when I
wake up, I try to get like my first fifteen minutes,
give him first fifteen minutes to God, like I don't
like to get up, get on my phone or anything
like that.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Like I'm gonna pray. I'm gonna pray people, Pray for
my people.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
And then try to get a little exercise in if possible,
you know, get some movement going. But y'all just saying, man,
just be at peace with yourself and everything else gonna comes.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's one of the biggest things that I've learned over
time is you know, they say, let go and make God,
but in deeper level, that's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Everybody says it, but it's hard.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
When you when you got bills and when you got kids,
and when you got the weight of the world on
your shoulders or you.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Feel like it it's easy.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
And that's when the devil comes in and tries to
swoop in and give you self doubt and give you
take away and rob you of your peace so that
he can kind of convert you into doing stuff that
you don't need to be doing.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
So that's the biggest thing for me. Same thing is
learning how to.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Listen to God and actually trust and know, even when
it looks like there's no sunshine coming, know that whatever
purpose or whatever plan that he has ultimately is gonna
be what it is.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
And part two to that is worried about it ain't
gonna do no good anyway, but it's gonna happen. Whatever's
gonna happen is gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Anyway regardless, Thank you so.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
And then you know, sometimes with that, and then once
someone sees like Okay, hey, like you look back, Oh
I was at this point at one time. Now look
where I'm at, It's like why why not? Why can't
you trust him with anything else? Like he took you
through that to where you're at now.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
So and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Like I tell people like I tell people my story
and they'd be like what, because you know, they automatic
thinking Montgomery, Alabama. We sit around on rocking chairs on
the front porch and I'm no bru I asked people
all the time, I say, have you ever been to Alabama? Yeah,
we've been to such a Oh we where are you from?
(36:14):
I say Montgomery? They said, oh, we should go for
you better have a bulletproof ben clacking if you want to.
They ain't playing in the gump all the time. You know,
it's funny watching your story come full circle from a
quiet kid on the field to a grown man father
(36:38):
And that's real growth. And I've always respected you, even
as a youngster for always pushing through and having perseverance.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You've always had that. That's where all that yelling it.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You know, I knew that you had that end us,
but seeing it all and you've grown now is crazy.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But kudos to you.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Are started, appreciated, super.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Proud of you. You know, BST isn't just a brand
and a mindset. Tell other people where they can.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Go follow and get what's going on with bs T.
I'm helping you out with the social media side of it.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, there we go. So the Instagram, Instagram, b s
T underscore the brand. So T H E, B R
A n D. That's the Instagram website, BST the brand
dot net.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
You know what I'm saying. So you'll be able to
get on there see all the merchs that we currently have.
Like I said, it's just now starting, so I'm still
building my inventory. Will definitely be on the lookout. I
got a lot of a lot of things in my
mind that I'm trying to bring to the forefront that
I feel like everybody's gonna like.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
So I'm down with it.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I'm endorsing, and I'm now make sure that I tag
the the Instagram and that I'll.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Put on the YouTube channel. I'll put a link to
the website on their sharing.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Uh. You know, you are a testament to you. Don't
need to be loud to make noise, just be consistent
with your character. Even as a kid.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's my.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
You know, thirty some ideas later and you're still like
I see that little kid, but now as an adult
and still you.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Have that light in that vibrant So keep shining, bro.
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And uh, like I said, I'll tag everything. If you
need me, you know I'm always here. I'm gonna shoot
you my phone number. I appreciate you taking time out
of your day go get them kids tucked in bad.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Take it easy. But I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I appreciate you, all all right, Yeah,
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