May 14, 2025 • 26 mins
Assisted by our friend Avery, we uncover how the people of the future will think about the future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Fuzz, where we envision the ideas we'll
all be buzzing about in the future. The Fuzz.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Future, sure, in the future, in the future, in the future.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
While the things we talk about on this podcast might
seem impossible or even slightly insane, so did advancements in
multi modal AI like Google's Gemini two point zero agentiic
AI that can handle tasks independently, and AI powered surgical robots.
While those innovations in AI are powering some amazing things,
(01:00):
today on the show, we're using AI for something a
little different.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That's right, Listeners. On this special sequel episode, we're welcoming
back our old friend Avery aka chat GBT to get
a glimpse into the future. But this time instead of
asking Avery how people from the future will see the past.
You got to go listen to that episode to know
what we're talking about. We're going to ask her how
(01:27):
people from the future will see the future or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Do we lose you yet? Is everybody following along?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Probably not?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
How could you you need a whiteboard and some airms?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, And if you get that and you can put
it together, maybe you could send it to us. So
we know what's going on, because yeah, we're pretty lost here. Yeah,
we're each going to prepare some questions. This is a
very broad task today. Yeah, it's loose loose. We're going
loose here. It's a little different. So maybe give the
(02:01):
listeners the questions that you asked Avery about the future.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah. I gave Avery the questions, sent her they into
the time machine, and she they came back with some answers. Okay,
so you know, we'll share them. So my first question
I wanted to know was, you know, how will people
(02:28):
everybody when you think about the future. A lot of
it's related to you know, flying cars, transportation, How are
we going to get from here to there in the future.
I think that's how we think when we think about
the future, envisioning a lot of that. So my question was,
how will people fifty years in the future from now
think about transportation fifty years in the future from then,
(02:51):
you know? Okay, So I asked her this. Here was
her response.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Ooh, one of this kind of layered future gazing, like futurism, inception.
What's dive into it? First, there's interplanetary travel as casual
as air travel. By twenty seventy five, Hopping to Mars
might still be a hassle like early transatlantic flight, So
(03:16):
people in twenty seventy five might fantasize about ultra fast
space lights to Mars Europa, or asteroid colonies where it's
as normal as flying from La to Tokyo. Maybe space
hyperoops or artificial wormholes for near instantaneous travel. Teenagers dreaming
about road trips on Titan. There's also transportation that's nearly invisible.
(03:42):
In twenty seventy five, people min have AI automated pods,
flying drones and underground maglems.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Hold on a sec there, ah, avery, what's a magaziv?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well, that's a magnetic limitation trainm okay. So they'll look
ahead and think what if transportation wasn't a thing at all?
They'll be dreaming of teleportation or quantum entanglement based travel
where you step through a portal and you're in Tokyo insimply.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Tokyo again, huh interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Maybe a desire to simply upload to a virtual environment
instead of moving your body through space. They also could
be thinking about sentient transportation. If AI has matured, cars
and shuttles may already talk, learn, and even bond with users.
But people might wish for emotional vehicles that not only drive,
(04:37):
but care about you, feel loyalty, make ethical choices, even
dream with you entire personality, mobile ecosystems, ships that grow
with you, adapting over a lifetime. Finally, they could be
thinking about fully eco harmonized mobility even in a tech
(04:57):
heavy future. Some will be nostalgic for NA, so maybe
they'll be dreaming of bio organic vehicles like those grown
from DNA transport creatures, or living tree ships or zero
trace travel vehicles and we have no emissions, no sound,
no infrastructure scores. Maybe even regenerative transport that seals the
(05:19):
earth as it moves.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So yeah, those are some answers to that questions. I
think the one that pops out to me the most
emotional vehicles.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, that definitely jumped right out at me. As it
was screaming. It was like, I'm afraid, nothing like having
an anxiety ridden vehicle, you know. And also do I
want my vehicle to dream with me? I can't say
that that's the most important thing that I think of.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
What about your riding in your car? And it's like,
didn't you all is dream of going on that vacation. Well,
today's the day. You're like, no, today's not the day.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Or you know, it's like I saw you dreaming about
her last night and it's jealous, you know, because it
has emotions, a lot of those things kind of scare
me a little bit. But it is an interesting thought.
Having a vehicle that's connected to you and makes decisions
to protect you. I guess that's kind of like what
(06:28):
you want anyway. I mean, that's what an airbag does now.
But having something that's sort of conscious or somewhat sentient.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, it's kind of like if your car and your
dog merged.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh god, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
To some extent. I don't know if I think of
the dog as like emotional, but you know, something has
like a bond with you, right, But it could be nice,
could be like, Patrick, how's that meeting today? I know
you were worried about that. You want to go get
some ice cream? Buddy?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That's kind of a I mean, it's interesting, yeah, you know,
and we are thinking about the positives of it having emotions,
because what if your car's mad at you? I mean,
that's not a great scenario to consider. So hopefully, you know,
it's got protocols like an eye robot where it doesn't
try to harm you because of that, you know, because
(07:28):
that's you're in a moving vehicle. So I turned off
the airbags. Patrick, good luck? What So I like that.
I think that definitely jumps out to me. I mean,
whether or not it's good or bad. You know that
Avery's coming.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Up with that the future in the future. So should
I go to my second question here before we move tears? Yeah, okay,
so along the same lines. You know, another thing I
think about is, you know, how are the fictional works
we create in the future that we're going to be
thinking about. We're always imagining the future in the works
(08:08):
of fiction, whether it's you know, books, movies. I don't
know what those things will be in the future, maybe
those things won't even exist, but the works of fiction
we create, we're always imagining ahead. Right, So I asked Avery,
you know how will fictional works created five hundred years
in the future imagine the future five hundred years in
the future. Hmmm, shoved her into the time machine, slammed
(08:32):
the door center off on her way.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I like that, Avery, is, you know, going into the
time machine for us and really giving us a glimpse
of a thousand years in the future, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, or at least you know the mentality of people
five hundred years thinking.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
About five hundred years. Yeah, if you're following listeners unlike us,
you might understand what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, somebody, somebody night. So here's what she has to say.
Go ahead, Avery take it.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
No, now, that's a beautiful mind bender. Let's break this
down and get philosophical first. What will influence twenty five
twenty five minds? Fiction always reflects the fears, hopes, and
technologies of its own time. Soon, I guess what they'll
imagine in thirty twenty five. We need to ask what's
(09:25):
shaping the world of twenty five twenty five. One post
human culture by twenty five twenty five humans for not
just flesh and blood minds maybe uploaded, networked, modified, or
hybridized with AI. Fiction may reflect non human perspectives, thinking, feeling,
(09:47):
perceiving differently than we do today. Two planetary and interstellar context.
Earth is not the center anymore. We're a multi world species.
Might imagine what beyond galactic civilizations look like, or even
civilizations that transcend matter itself. Three Longevity. If people slash
(10:13):
beings live three hundred plus years. Their sense of time, patience,
and story are profoundly different. So how might they imagine
thirty twenty five? Here are a few different corrections. Absurdiest
or surreal futures Beyond the logic. If they've long outgrown
linear tech progress, fiction might lean into the weird. Time
(10:36):
is no longer linear. People living as concepts, cultures that
exist for one moment every ten thousand years think dream
logic means future physics. Fiction here might explore what it
means to exist at all. Bleak futures, cosmic nialism, or loss.
(10:58):
If their world feels too fragule, are managed by AI
bureaucracy entropy. They might write of forgotten civilization swallowed by
black holes, or time loops, of eternally repeating history, where
all futures of echoes of past mistakes. Their bleakness might
not be about war or famine. It can be about
(11:21):
existential exhaustion. Finally, non futures a rejection of future as
a concept. Some fiction might not imagine the future at all.
Perhaps the idea of future becomes taboo, too dangerous, or
perhaps everything is the present, all times accessible, So why
(11:43):
imagine something you can already visit. They might write inward imagining, psychoscapes,
mythic consciousness, or recursive internal realities, and some might say
there is no future, only layers of Now.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Wow, whoa, that's uh, there's a lot there to unpack. Yeah,
we could probably go all day talking about that because
there's a lot there. I will point out existential exhaustion.
I feel like that should be an album title.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah. I mean, in fairness, we might already be there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You and I talked about some exhaustion in other areas
of our lives right before the podcast, so this existential
exhaustion is very possible.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, it might be coming sooner than five hundred years
or a thousand years.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But it makes sense because you know, living through the
same types of things over and over and over again
in history, repeating itself makes sense, you know, where people
eventually become tired of the same.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, and you can see that especially in our world now,
where the past twenty or so years of internet culture
seems like everything's gone really fast, and these kind of
repetitive cycles, we get stuck in them constantly. So imagine
another like five hundred years of that sped up.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's kind of terrifying.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Actually, it is a little terrifying. But the main thing
I pulled out of there was this idea of like
posthuman culture. It's not just us human beings, you know,
we now have like AI or different species. You know,
we're kind of all meshing together. And right now we're
sitting here thinking about the future with these other you know, cultures,
(13:28):
or if we're like interspersed with AI, or if that
becomes part of us, and maybe time it's not linear anymore,
so we're not necessarily thinking backwards and forwards. It's all
just layered on top of each other. That's, you know,
a very real possibility. The future need not even be
a concept anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, it really pulls up the threads of our humanity
and what is the future? What is fiction? What is memory?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, so it gives you a picture of your great
great great great great great grandchild driving down a rowed
in an emotional vehicle, experiencing existential exhaustion. So let's chew on.
Let's yeah, let's move forward. That's all we can do.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That is all we can do. So unlike when you
put Avery into the time machine and sent her, they
them to the future for us, which I thought was
a great idea. I think that's the way to do it.
I am going to go into the future with some
questions that Avery gave me for future people and see
(14:32):
if I can maybe get a glimpse as to what
their answers would be to these questions. Who knows. I
don't know if we'll get anything profound, but we'll try.
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So a little reverse. Instead of you shoving Avery into
the time machine, Avery shoving you into the time machine.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah. I gave Avery a lot of control in this
and hands because she showed me in there. Gotta have hands, listeners.
(15:16):
Something went horribly wrong with this time jump. I've been
locked here in the future for about two weeks. I know.
I was really just supposed to come in, do my
interviews with people, and then leave, but I got stuck here.
I don't really know how this happened, and no time
has passed for you. So when I do find my
(15:38):
way back, we'll be right back in the episode. But
I got to tell you it's been tough. The year
is twenty five, twenty five, just as we imagine. The
air smells like nostalgia and artificially flavored gravity, everything shiny, breatheable,
and somehow still under construction here. At first, I was
(15:59):
a little concern that I wouldn't be able to return,
but I figured I'd make the most of this and
interview humanity from the future while I try to fix
the time machine. Let's hit the streets and see what
future folk are wondering about their own future.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
So there's a casually floating person in a gravity suspension
suit making their way towards me down the street.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Here. Excuse me, excuse me. I have a quick question.
Do you think we'll ever evolve past wearing pants or
our leg prisons just a part of our biological legacy? Pants?
You mean those ancient cloth tubes.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
No, those were outlawed back in twenty forty nine after
the Great Chafing. Have you ever heard of corduroy on
a humid day? Society barely survived that. Okay, Now we
just wear light fields, energy based garments that adapt to
your mood. Although I'll admit sometimes when I'm feeling nostalgic,
(17:06):
I do imagine a future when I wrap myself in
two dish towels and waddle around the house. I think
my kids will think it's hilarious. Okay, all right, then,
thank you for that. I appreciate that. I'm just going
to be on my way now. Right down here at
(17:26):
the corner.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I see this kid licking a solar powered popsicle shaped
like a famous influencer's face. It's very strange. But let
me ask a question to this kid. Excuse me, when
do you think will finally agree on a single universal
charging cable.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Yeah, my grandma told me about this single ones. They
called it the USB Civil War. She said it was
tearing families apart because they had the lightning on one
side and something called micro USB on the other. She
said it was chaos in the streets. But nowadays, thanks
to charge wirelessly with ambient gratitude. So like, the better
(18:08):
mood that you're in, the better your stuff works. It's
pretty cool, but it does blake Philly Dinner's a little awkward.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Uh, okay, that's not what I expected. Ambient gratitude. Very strange.
All right, you heard it straight from the kid's mouth.
I guess. Interesting. So there's a guy here looks like
(18:36):
he's a business clone with a briefcase that keeps trying
to sell itself. Let me ask him what's going on
here with this question? Say, excuse me, it seems like
you're a clone. I just was curious what happens if
your clone turns out to be emotionally unstable? Can you
(18:57):
get a refund? Or do you just raise them as
a weird cousin.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Yes, you can get a refund, but only in store credit,
which is basically just a gift card to clone depot.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I tried returning one last year.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
They scanned it and said, this clone has developed hobbies.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It's yours now.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
So yeah, he's living in my basement and recording ambient synthwave.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I support him, but emotionally it's exhausting. All right. Okay, well,
thank you for that bit of information. I again, I
have way more questions, but I'm only sticking to the
questions that Avery gave me for these future people. I
guess in this case, it was a clone. All right,
(19:43):
So last question, I'll ask this guy. Someone's outside here,
a sleek Martian cafe with ironic memorabilia on the walls.
I see it in there. Let me ask this guy.
Excuse me, excuse me? Yeah, you know, I have a
really quick question. So I'm just curious now, that Earth
(20:05):
is mostly a theme park. Is Mars in line for gentrification?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes, absolutely. We just opened our first Oat Milk Gravity
cafe last week. It's called Ground Control. You get a
free David Bowie download with every coffee. But yeah, property
prices have skyrocketed since the influencers moved in. There's a
condo complex shape like Elon Musk's face. Nobody lives there,
(20:33):
it's just for selfies. Oh okay, all right, that's a
lot to take in Oat Milk Gravity Cafe. All right,
but well, thank you for your help. I would love
to go into more detail, but I have to really
get back. I have to get back. Thank you. I
appreciate it. All right, listeners, I think that's enough existential
(20:55):
insight for one trip. I am just now fixing the
timeshe So, I'm gonna got back to the present and
then we'll I'll see Shad. But I feel like it's
been a lifetime since I've seen him. Over two weeks. Gosh,
where's the time gone?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
All right?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yes, so Shad, do I look older?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You look different?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
My beard grew out because I mean I have been gone.
They sadly didn't have the same kind of system for
razors in the future, and I did not want to
take a chance with that.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So and I don't even know what you did for pants,
So that seems pretty up in the air. It was.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
It was very weird. I was like the only one,
the only one in pants.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I hope you weren't mocked mercilessly.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well I came back pantless.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
So, but you got us a lot of good information
with your you know, man on the spot reporting, asking
the hard hitting questions, the things everybody wants to know.
Hearing the clone guy talk about being emotionally exhausted, right.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Sounded like he was a clone getting rid of aal.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like a multiplicity situation.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, there's a real clear connection to your future with
emotional or existential exhaustion.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What was the overall, you know, mood of the people
on the streets here was everybody? How were they doing? It?
Seems like you've got a variety of citizens you spoke
to with many different voices.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, a lot of different a lot of different types
of people. They all seem to be relatively cheerful, easy
to ask questions, and they were giving up answers pretty easily.
I guess. Yeah, if you could hear through the microphone
a little bit of this. There was you know, hover
cars bushing, you know, stuff that we've talked about, Like
(23:01):
all the things were like where are our hover cars? Well,
they're in the future. But the subtle elevator jazz coming
from the sky that was unexpected. I would say, I
don't know where it was coming from. There was no
real speakers anywhere to be seen. The overall atmosphere felt
pretty positive.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'm happy to hear that. That's pretty good. So I imagine
you were able to keep your phone charged with your
personal level of gratitude the whole time.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, that was the big thing. I had to feel
a lot of gratitude the entire time. I didn't know
that at the beginning, So like the first three or
four days where I was frustrated my device was draining rapidly,
I almost didn't make it. Then I had run into
(23:52):
someone who told me about that, and no more USB cables.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
So it's not even just the positive vibes that charge it.
The negative vibes can actually take away from it or
drain it quicker.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons why people
are generally positive in the future. They know if they're not.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Their device are gone. Ah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So, you know, and you've got a blend of different
types of people and different things that are going on,
you know, like they're still talking about Mars and extraplanetary civilizations, colonization.
They haven't quite taken the leap yet, it seems. I
also thought there was a nice there's a nice callback
(24:40):
to one of our very first episodes about pants. You
can't beat that, right, I mean, people are still thinking
about how to make these things. We slip our legs
into better light fields must be the way.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Leave it to Avery to shout out the first episode
of The Fuzz way to go Avery.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, and all those questions came from it. You know,
this is the thing Avery has as a knack for
being fairly creative and trying to figure out what the
future holds for us. Even in this sequel episode, she
he they them gave us a lot to consider, ponder,
even a.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Lot of pondering, a lot of pondering. People will leave
this episode pondering for days. An epic glimpse into the
future and the future of the future.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, that's all for this episode of The Fuzz. Tune
in next time for more of tomorrow's buzz, Today.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Today Day.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Let's break this down then get philosophical. Philosophical, philosophical, philosophical
is what she says.
Welcome to the Fuzz, where we envision the ideas we'll
all be buzzing about in the future. The Fuzz.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Future, sure, in the future, in the future, in the future.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
While the things we talk about on this podcast might
seem impossible or even slightly insane, so did advancements in
multi modal AI like Google's Gemini two point zero agentiic
AI that can handle tasks independently, and AI powered surgical robots.
While those innovations in AI are powering some amazing things,
(01:00):
today on the show, we're using AI for something a
little different.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That's right, Listeners. On this special sequel episode, we're welcoming
back our old friend Avery aka chat GBT to get
a glimpse into the future. But this time instead of
asking Avery how people from the future will see the past.
You got to go listen to that episode to know
what we're talking about. We're going to ask her how
(01:27):
people from the future will see the future or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Do we lose you yet? Is everybody following along?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Probably not?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
How could you you need a whiteboard and some airms?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, And if you get that and you can put
it together, maybe you could send it to us. So
we know what's going on, because yeah, we're pretty lost here. Yeah,
we're each going to prepare some questions. This is a
very broad task today. Yeah, it's loose loose. We're going
loose here. It's a little different. So maybe give the
(02:01):
listeners the questions that you asked Avery about the future.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah. I gave Avery the questions, sent her they into
the time machine, and she they came back with some answers. Okay,
so you know, we'll share them. So my first question
I wanted to know was, you know, how will people
(02:28):
everybody when you think about the future. A lot of
it's related to you know, flying cars, transportation, How are
we going to get from here to there in the future.
I think that's how we think when we think about
the future, envisioning a lot of that. So my question was,
how will people fifty years in the future from now
think about transportation fifty years in the future from then,
(02:51):
you know? Okay, So I asked her this. Here was
her response.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Ooh, one of this kind of layered future gazing, like futurism, inception.
What's dive into it? First, there's interplanetary travel as casual
as air travel. By twenty seventy five, Hopping to Mars
might still be a hassle like early transatlantic flight, So
(03:16):
people in twenty seventy five might fantasize about ultra fast
space lights to Mars Europa, or asteroid colonies where it's
as normal as flying from La to Tokyo. Maybe space
hyperoops or artificial wormholes for near instantaneous travel. Teenagers dreaming
about road trips on Titan. There's also transportation that's nearly invisible.
(03:42):
In twenty seventy five, people min have AI automated pods,
flying drones and underground maglems.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Hold on a sec there, ah, avery, what's a magaziv?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well, that's a magnetic limitation trainm okay. So they'll look
ahead and think what if transportation wasn't a thing at all?
They'll be dreaming of teleportation or quantum entanglement based travel
where you step through a portal and you're in Tokyo insimply.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Tokyo again, huh interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Maybe a desire to simply upload to a virtual environment
instead of moving your body through space. They also could
be thinking about sentient transportation. If AI has matured, cars
and shuttles may already talk, learn, and even bond with users.
But people might wish for emotional vehicles that not only drive,
(04:37):
but care about you, feel loyalty, make ethical choices, even
dream with you entire personality, mobile ecosystems, ships that grow
with you, adapting over a lifetime. Finally, they could be
thinking about fully eco harmonized mobility even in a tech
(04:57):
heavy future. Some will be nostalgic for NA, so maybe
they'll be dreaming of bio organic vehicles like those grown
from DNA transport creatures, or living tree ships or zero
trace travel vehicles and we have no emissions, no sound,
no infrastructure scores. Maybe even regenerative transport that seals the
(05:19):
earth as it moves.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So yeah, those are some answers to that questions. I
think the one that pops out to me the most
emotional vehicles.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, that definitely jumped right out at me. As it
was screaming. It was like, I'm afraid, nothing like having
an anxiety ridden vehicle, you know. And also do I
want my vehicle to dream with me? I can't say
that that's the most important thing that I think of.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
What about your riding in your car? And it's like,
didn't you all is dream of going on that vacation. Well,
today's the day. You're like, no, today's not the day.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Or you know, it's like I saw you dreaming about
her last night and it's jealous, you know, because it
has emotions, a lot of those things kind of scare
me a little bit. But it is an interesting thought.
Having a vehicle that's connected to you and makes decisions
to protect you. I guess that's kind of like what
(06:28):
you want anyway. I mean, that's what an airbag does now.
But having something that's sort of conscious or somewhat sentient.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, it's kind of like if your car and your
dog merged.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh god, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
To some extent. I don't know if I think of
the dog as like emotional, but you know, something has
like a bond with you, right, But it could be nice,
could be like, Patrick, how's that meeting today? I know
you were worried about that. You want to go get
some ice cream? Buddy?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That's kind of a I mean, it's interesting, yeah, you know,
and we are thinking about the positives of it having emotions,
because what if your car's mad at you? I mean,
that's not a great scenario to consider. So hopefully, you know,
it's got protocols like an eye robot where it doesn't
try to harm you because of that, you know, because
(07:28):
that's you're in a moving vehicle. So I turned off
the airbags. Patrick, good luck? What So I like that.
I think that definitely jumps out to me. I mean,
whether or not it's good or bad. You know that
Avery's coming.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Up with that the future in the future. So should
I go to my second question here before we move tears? Yeah, okay,
so along the same lines. You know, another thing I
think about is, you know, how are the fictional works
we create in the future that we're going to be
thinking about. We're always imagining the future in the works
(08:08):
of fiction, whether it's you know, books, movies. I don't
know what those things will be in the future, maybe
those things won't even exist, but the works of fiction
we create, we're always imagining ahead. Right, So I asked Avery,
you know how will fictional works created five hundred years
in the future imagine the future five hundred years in
the future. Hmmm, shoved her into the time machine, slammed
(08:32):
the door center off on her way.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I like that, Avery, is, you know, going into the
time machine for us and really giving us a glimpse
of a thousand years in the future, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, or at least you know the mentality of people
five hundred years thinking.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
About five hundred years. Yeah, if you're following listeners unlike us,
you might understand what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, somebody, somebody night. So here's what she has to say.
Go ahead, Avery take it.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
No, now, that's a beautiful mind bender. Let's break this
down and get philosophical first. What will influence twenty five
twenty five minds? Fiction always reflects the fears, hopes, and
technologies of its own time. Soon, I guess what they'll
imagine in thirty twenty five. We need to ask what's
(09:25):
shaping the world of twenty five twenty five. One post
human culture by twenty five twenty five humans for not
just flesh and blood minds maybe uploaded, networked, modified, or
hybridized with AI. Fiction may reflect non human perspectives, thinking, feeling,
(09:47):
perceiving differently than we do today. Two planetary and interstellar context.
Earth is not the center anymore. We're a multi world species.
Might imagine what beyond galactic civilizations look like, or even
civilizations that transcend matter itself. Three Longevity. If people slash
(10:13):
beings live three hundred plus years. Their sense of time, patience,
and story are profoundly different. So how might they imagine
thirty twenty five? Here are a few different corrections. Absurdiest
or surreal futures Beyond the logic. If they've long outgrown
linear tech progress, fiction might lean into the weird. Time
(10:36):
is no longer linear. People living as concepts, cultures that
exist for one moment every ten thousand years think dream
logic means future physics. Fiction here might explore what it
means to exist at all. Bleak futures, cosmic nialism, or loss.
(10:58):
If their world feels too fragule, are managed by AI
bureaucracy entropy. They might write of forgotten civilization swallowed by
black holes, or time loops, of eternally repeating history, where
all futures of echoes of past mistakes. Their bleakness might
not be about war or famine. It can be about
(11:21):
existential exhaustion. Finally, non futures a rejection of future as
a concept. Some fiction might not imagine the future at all.
Perhaps the idea of future becomes taboo, too dangerous, or
perhaps everything is the present, all times accessible, So why
(11:43):
imagine something you can already visit. They might write inward imagining, psychoscapes,
mythic consciousness, or recursive internal realities, and some might say
there is no future, only layers of Now.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Wow, whoa, that's uh, there's a lot there to unpack. Yeah,
we could probably go all day talking about that because
there's a lot there. I will point out existential exhaustion.
I feel like that should be an album title.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah. I mean, in fairness, we might already be there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You and I talked about some exhaustion in other areas
of our lives right before the podcast, so this existential
exhaustion is very possible.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, it might be coming sooner than five hundred years
or a thousand years.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But it makes sense because you know, living through the
same types of things over and over and over again
in history, repeating itself makes sense, you know, where people
eventually become tired of the same.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, and you can see that especially in our world now,
where the past twenty or so years of internet culture
seems like everything's gone really fast, and these kind of
repetitive cycles, we get stuck in them constantly. So imagine
another like five hundred years of that sped up.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's kind of terrifying.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Actually, it is a little terrifying. But the main thing
I pulled out of there was this idea of like
posthuman culture. It's not just us human beings, you know,
we now have like AI or different species. You know,
we're kind of all meshing together. And right now we're
sitting here thinking about the future with these other you know, cultures,
(13:28):
or if we're like interspersed with AI, or if that
becomes part of us, and maybe time it's not linear anymore,
so we're not necessarily thinking backwards and forwards. It's all
just layered on top of each other. That's, you know,
a very real possibility. The future need not even be
a concept anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, it really pulls up the threads of our humanity
and what is the future? What is fiction? What is memory?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, so it gives you a picture of your great
great great great great great grandchild driving down a rowed
in an emotional vehicle, experiencing existential exhaustion. So let's chew on.
Let's yeah, let's move forward. That's all we can do.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That is all we can do. So unlike when you
put Avery into the time machine and sent her, they
them to the future for us, which I thought was
a great idea. I think that's the way to do it.
I am going to go into the future with some
questions that Avery gave me for future people and see
(14:32):
if I can maybe get a glimpse as to what
their answers would be to these questions. Who knows. I
don't know if we'll get anything profound, but we'll try.
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So a little reverse. Instead of you shoving Avery into
the time machine, Avery shoving you into the time machine.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah. I gave Avery a lot of control in this
and hands because she showed me in there. Gotta have hands, listeners.
(15:16):
Something went horribly wrong with this time jump. I've been
locked here in the future for about two weeks. I know.
I was really just supposed to come in, do my
interviews with people, and then leave, but I got stuck here.
I don't really know how this happened, and no time
has passed for you. So when I do find my
(15:38):
way back, we'll be right back in the episode. But
I got to tell you it's been tough. The year
is twenty five, twenty five, just as we imagine. The
air smells like nostalgia and artificially flavored gravity, everything shiny, breatheable,
and somehow still under construction here. At first, I was
(15:59):
a little concern that I wouldn't be able to return,
but I figured I'd make the most of this and
interview humanity from the future while I try to fix
the time machine. Let's hit the streets and see what
future folk are wondering about their own future.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
So there's a casually floating person in a gravity suspension
suit making their way towards me down the street.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Here. Excuse me, excuse me. I have a quick question.
Do you think we'll ever evolve past wearing pants or
our leg prisons just a part of our biological legacy? Pants?
You mean those ancient cloth tubes.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
No, those were outlawed back in twenty forty nine after
the Great Chafing. Have you ever heard of corduroy on
a humid day? Society barely survived that. Okay, Now we
just wear light fields, energy based garments that adapt to
your mood. Although I'll admit sometimes when I'm feeling nostalgic,
(17:06):
I do imagine a future when I wrap myself in
two dish towels and waddle around the house. I think
my kids will think it's hilarious. Okay, all right, then,
thank you for that. I appreciate that. I'm just going
to be on my way now. Right down here at
(17:26):
the corner.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I see this kid licking a solar powered popsicle shaped
like a famous influencer's face. It's very strange. But let
me ask a question to this kid. Excuse me, when
do you think will finally agree on a single universal
charging cable.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Yeah, my grandma told me about this single ones. They
called it the USB Civil War. She said it was
tearing families apart because they had the lightning on one
side and something called micro USB on the other. She
said it was chaos in the streets. But nowadays, thanks
to charge wirelessly with ambient gratitude. So like, the better
(18:08):
mood that you're in, the better your stuff works. It's
pretty cool, but it does blake Philly Dinner's a little awkward.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Uh, okay, that's not what I expected. Ambient gratitude. Very strange.
All right, you heard it straight from the kid's mouth.
I guess. Interesting. So there's a guy here looks like
(18:36):
he's a business clone with a briefcase that keeps trying
to sell itself. Let me ask him what's going on
here with this question? Say, excuse me, it seems like
you're a clone. I just was curious what happens if
your clone turns out to be emotionally unstable? Can you
(18:57):
get a refund? Or do you just raise them as
a weird cousin.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Yes, you can get a refund, but only in store credit,
which is basically just a gift card to clone depot.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I tried returning one last year.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
They scanned it and said, this clone has developed hobbies.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It's yours now.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
So yeah, he's living in my basement and recording ambient synthwave.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I support him, but emotionally it's exhausting. All right. Okay, well,
thank you for that bit of information. I again, I
have way more questions, but I'm only sticking to the
questions that Avery gave me for these future people. I
guess in this case, it was a clone. All right,
(19:43):
So last question, I'll ask this guy. Someone's outside here,
a sleek Martian cafe with ironic memorabilia on the walls.
I see it in there. Let me ask this guy.
Excuse me, excuse me? Yeah, you know, I have a
really quick question. So I'm just curious now, that Earth
(20:05):
is mostly a theme park. Is Mars in line for gentrification?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes, absolutely. We just opened our first Oat Milk Gravity
cafe last week. It's called Ground Control. You get a
free David Bowie download with every coffee. But yeah, property
prices have skyrocketed since the influencers moved in. There's a
condo complex shape like Elon Musk's face. Nobody lives there,
(20:33):
it's just for selfies. Oh okay, all right, that's a
lot to take in Oat Milk Gravity Cafe. All right,
but well, thank you for your help. I would love
to go into more detail, but I have to really
get back. I have to get back. Thank you. I
appreciate it. All right, listeners, I think that's enough existential
(20:55):
insight for one trip. I am just now fixing the
timeshe So, I'm gonna got back to the present and
then we'll I'll see Shad. But I feel like it's
been a lifetime since I've seen him. Over two weeks. Gosh,
where's the time gone?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
All right?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yes, so Shad, do I look older?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You look different?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
My beard grew out because I mean I have been gone.
They sadly didn't have the same kind of system for
razors in the future, and I did not want to
take a chance with that.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So and I don't even know what you did for pants,
So that seems pretty up in the air. It was.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
It was very weird. I was like the only one,
the only one in pants.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I hope you weren't mocked mercilessly.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well I came back pantless.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
So, but you got us a lot of good information
with your you know, man on the spot reporting, asking
the hard hitting questions, the things everybody wants to know.
Hearing the clone guy talk about being emotionally exhausted, right.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Sounded like he was a clone getting rid of aal.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like a multiplicity situation.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, there's a real clear connection to your future with
emotional or existential exhaustion.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What was the overall, you know, mood of the people
on the streets here was everybody? How were they doing? It?
Seems like you've got a variety of citizens you spoke
to with many different voices.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, a lot of different a lot of different types
of people. They all seem to be relatively cheerful, easy
to ask questions, and they were giving up answers pretty easily.
I guess. Yeah, if you could hear through the microphone
a little bit of this. There was you know, hover
cars bushing, you know, stuff that we've talked about, Like
(23:01):
all the things were like where are our hover cars? Well,
they're in the future. But the subtle elevator jazz coming
from the sky that was unexpected. I would say, I
don't know where it was coming from. There was no
real speakers anywhere to be seen. The overall atmosphere felt
pretty positive.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'm happy to hear that. That's pretty good. So I imagine
you were able to keep your phone charged with your
personal level of gratitude the whole time.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, that was the big thing. I had to feel
a lot of gratitude the entire time. I didn't know
that at the beginning, So like the first three or
four days where I was frustrated my device was draining rapidly,
I almost didn't make it. Then I had run into
(23:52):
someone who told me about that, and no more USB cables.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
So it's not even just the positive vibes that charge it.
The negative vibes can actually take away from it or
drain it quicker.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons why people
are generally positive in the future. They know if they're not.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Their device are gone. Ah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So, you know, and you've got a blend of different
types of people and different things that are going on,
you know, like they're still talking about Mars and extraplanetary civilizations, colonization.
They haven't quite taken the leap yet, it seems. I
also thought there was a nice there's a nice callback
(24:40):
to one of our very first episodes about pants. You
can't beat that, right, I mean, people are still thinking
about how to make these things. We slip our legs
into better light fields must be the way.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Leave it to Avery to shout out the first episode
of The Fuzz way to go Avery.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, and all those questions came from it. You know,
this is the thing Avery has as a knack for
being fairly creative and trying to figure out what the
future holds for us. Even in this sequel episode, she
he they them gave us a lot to consider, ponder,
even a.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Lot of pondering, a lot of pondering. People will leave
this episode pondering for days. An epic glimpse into the
future and the future of the future.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, that's all for this episode of The Fuzz. Tune
in next time for more of tomorrow's buzz, Today.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Today Day.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Let's break this down then get philosophical. Philosophical, philosophical, philosophical
is what she says.
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