December 17, 2022 • 40 mins
Nothing belongs to us. Not even our testimonies. When we approach our lives in this way, whenever God commands us to share anything, we must obey. This includes the birth of our child. God knew this birth would bless more than just us as long we don’t get in the way by hoarding the experience. We were led to share our birth experience with a group of onboarding doulas and 2 days later, one of them delivered a child in an unplanned emergency. Our testimony was the encouragement God used to prepare her for her future. Everything happens on purpose.
Questions
1. Yes we have access to the Holy Spirit, but what about other spirits?
2. Was this birthing experience just for us?
3. Does God use our testimonies for others?
Questions
1. Yes we have access to the Holy Spirit, but what about other spirits?
2. Was this birthing experience just for us?
3. Does God use our testimonies for others?
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What's good, y'all. It's Markand Jade God both here. We're just
a couple of millennials who met atthe peak of our careers as a beauty
influencer and a corporate cool kid whodecided that life wasn't enough without God.
Our platform and this show are allabout how our journey to healing and how
following after Jesus really changed us andour marriage forever. We aren't your traditional
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churchgoers, and we appreciate that aboutourselves. Through our testimonies, we hope
that you find relief, comfort,revelation, and most importantly, the spirit
of God. Let's get into thisepisode. Yeah, why didn't tell me
to do my makeup and stuff?Make up? Don't put it well?
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Intelligence parfe popping. Yes, we'regonna testing money service last night. I'll
lead a Bible study on Wednesday nightscalled the Memo for me. And so
if you have any men that couldbenefit from the transparency, the vulnerability,
the word, feel free to shootus a link hill us a DM rather
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and I was very excited because mytestimony this week was what we're going to
talk about today, because it justshows how obedience and like righteousness really it
goes beyond what our minds can fathom, Like the impact. It's not just
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someone said last night what you're goingthrough. It's truly not for you.
It has so much more reached thanthat. But if you're hoarding it,
it cannot do what it was purposedto do. Our birth story is a
great example of that because from myfirst birth of nineteen to this one,
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when we get to share that entirestory, but I think like when we
do, would just give so muchmore hope that you're not that thing that
you experienced that God does with deem. It's not just that he can,
but he actually does it. Andso sharing this bird story was like,
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given what was actually going on,Like we had our own plans. We
had the same videographer that was supposedto come that did MICA's video, came
for MJ's what was supposed to comefor MJ's, but given like the timing
and just how fast everything went,she couldn't come. So what started as
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like you saying, hey, babe, you know, post the phone up
on the couch and just get whatwe can from you, actually finishing the
video and sharing like that fifty sevenseconds with me was like whoa and I
still cry every time I see it. And so from that video, you
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were like, I'm gonna post iton TikTok first and then I'll post on
Instagram a few days later. Andwhen I see the impact that is having
one tis her, I'm like,I'm sure you want to not post it
on Instagram. Post on Instagram,and people are still watching it, and
it's it's so like take us outand put anybody there. The impact is
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still present because the Holy Spirit wasso presant. So we share it and
the woman I don't know her name, you know her name, Eba,
reaches out. She says me aDM voice note says you're a DM voice
note, just congratulatory, sharing howshe she's worked with our midwife three before
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and just how she loves the wayto redust her job because the spirit led
and that's all that's actually very impactfulbecause to be spirit led simply means it's
not about what I desire to do, but whatever the Holy Spirit it leads
me to do. And in spaces, in very important spaces like that,
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that would be a place that anybodywould totally be okay with you doing what
you're taught, like by the bookyeah, because it's it's safe, right,
but to read chooses to a lotof older sperces that lead her and
she has by the book experiences tocertified midwife. She's worked in hospitals in
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birth you know, labor and deliveryunits since she was fifteen, so she
had a very early start and introductionto what birth is. So she comes
with that knowledge of man, butalso her spirituality infuses another layer to her
that just makes her such an incrediblemidwife and like someone that we absolutely love.
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And Ebane is also taking that sameapproach when it comes to how she
trains dulas. She's a black dulawho has a certification program for other dulas
that specifically want to practice a holyspirit led way of being a dula basically
and way of doing birth. Really, I love it. I mean we
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did that. Didn't even realize thatlike that was even like a very specific
way of doing it. Because whenEbene first reached out, you know,
she was kind of explaining why shefelt led to, you know, reach
out to us, and you know, one of the things that she said
that I totally agreed with was like, when you enter into the natural birth
and midwife space, there's a lotof very extreme ideologies and like ways of
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thinking, and a lot of peoplein that space actually operate out of witchcraft
and infuse different aspects of you know, having your ancestors help deliver babies,
sort of energy that is not ofGod, yet they're infusing that into the
birth practices. But this is thisis the kicker though it's possible, what
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oh to infuse that step in Ye, yes, and yes it's real.
That's something that Yeah, it's real. And that's something that bowed my mind
because even going to the bottle beforewe obviously do and and I want to
say it's first Samuel or maybe secondSamuel after um solid is getting ready to
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um. I think it's getting readyto to to die actually and getting ready
to go to this war. Andhe decides to go to a um.
I don't know it was a seeror some sort of spirit conjure to call
up a dead Samuel who was aprophet before that was like the prophet that
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annointed him, that annowne to David. He calls up dead Samuel for like
more information on whether he was goingto die in this next battle. And
Samuel came back and someone's like,yeah, why are you? Why are
you like waking me up? Likeare you what God told this? Like,
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do y'all realize what is happening inthis story? Like this, this
man who was anointed by God througha prophet, has lived a life in
such a way where at the endof his life he is going to a
which a seer who not only tellshim and does things like you know,
a little hocus focused up. No, the seer actually brings like Samuel back
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to earth like spiritually, serially,so like yeah, like it happened like
having a conversation. And it wascrazy too because at first the seer didn't
didn't know that Saul. Saul waslike trying to hide his appearance, Yeah,
so that they would know that likethe King of Israel, this quote
unquote man of God is in heretalking to a seer trying to get more
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information about how are he going todie? From Samuel who is dead.
And as I was even studying thatback in the day, that that was
why one of the reasons anyway,why God buried Moses in an unmarked place,
because calling up ancestors ain't this newphenomenon, nor is it fake.
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Is a fake, It's been aroundand it's real. Like, I think
that one thing for me as Igroup spiritually was like this idea that believing
everything in the Bible is real,it's not all. Yes, Jesus spoke
in parables at times, but thisain't one of them times. This is
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that he spoke when we're still true, right right, So he wasn't using
in the parables that were like we'reimpossible, colony. These are all parables
that that are honestly normal everyday thingsthat we look over. But Christ is
like, no, everything happens onpurpose. So there's even a purpose in
the bird going there to get hisfood and the flowers in the way they
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grow. So he was literally bringingspiritual knowledge that's normally like we either look
over or the past down to earthso that we can actually understand. Because
in what he's saying is like hecould keep it up there, but he
brings it down so that it's nottoo far or too high for us to
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actually grasp. So, yeah,like this, you know, bringing back
our ancestors and calling them back tohelp us and all of that. People
do it. That's legit, butthat that is the same as as going
to anything or anybody that's not dry. It's an illegal entry into the spirit
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realm. There's a legal way toenter the spirit realm, and that's through
God, through Jesus. There areillegal ways. That's why people who like
do ayahuasca and get trippy off shroomsand stuff really do have these experiences like
they're real because they are entering adifferent realm and they're entering without God's protection
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and without his hand. And I'veactually heard and this is a tangent,
but I've heard stories from people Iknow and people like on YouTube and stuff.
We've seen testimonies of people describing,like, you know, meeting Jesus
in that realm and angels and talkingabout how like that was the way that
they actually were able to get outwas because they recognize that, like,
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oh, I'm not supposed to behere, like these other spirits that are
not of God are recognizing that I'mhere, and they're actually excited because they
want me to get caught up andthey want me to essentially right. But
to get back to the main point, which was the story about so well,
actually, hello, because you justbrought something to mind when you said
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they, I mean they seek tokill you. Yeah, And I believe
that more people, for whatever reason, don't understand that the end result of
sad thing is death for you.Yeah. So yeah, they just start
off with I'm just trying to dothis. Yeah, I'm just trying to
get this response, and it worksto continue to draw you in, ye
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to death. Yeah. So there'sanother story in Acts on Acts eleven whether
this woman is saying the right thing, but she's possessed. So she's saying
um, like to Paul, likeyou represent the the most High God or
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like something like that, and she'srepeating it over and over, and we
the context that she was a witchand there were men that were taking advantage
of her gift for paid for them. So Paul eventually gets sick of hearing
her say this and cause the spiritout of her. Then those men get
mad at Paul because she's no longerpossessed, and then they put Paul in
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jail. But it was like whenI first met found like, but she's
not saying a lie. Yeah yeah, And most people think, oh,
wishes be lying, So I waslike, no, that's what pulls you
in because Sadan wraps a lie withthe truth. So the president in the
box is a lie. The wrappingpapers truth. If he can just get
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you to open up the box andrip the paper off. Open with the
box, you'll see the lie.But now you've already wasted your time and
energy. Wait. I want toput in here that sound bit of Kanye
being like got you, Oh,got you. Not to say that Kanye
is the devil, but like,that's what Satan is and does. When
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you fall for the counterfeit, whenyou guess what most of the time that
got you, it's death. Yeah. So taking it back the scripture,
when Christ up not that's his grace, Yeah, does the demon possess um
man and Christ comes around and thedemons demons are like, hey, like,
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please leave us alone, like,Son of God, cast us into
those pigs over there. Christ like, I ainate cool, go into the
pigs. They go into the pigs, and the pigs immediately run off of
cliff into a into water and die. That was an illustration of what the
goal is for these spirits inside ofyou. Yeah, the goal is for
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them to kill you. Yeah.So he casting into the pigs so that
everybody can have I witness account ofHey, that's the goal. Yeah,
do you want to be those pigs? Right, So bring us all the
way bad speak about life birth.Yea, Why this is why incorporating God
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in your journey through pregnancy before you'reabout to get pregnant, um, you
know, during your birth and laborexperience, why being tapped into the Holy
Spirit is so important because He's supposedto be involved when you bring life into
this world. When that that personin your belly the moment you have a
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heartbeat is alive, There's a soulthere. And so you have to realize
that you are partnering with God,whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
You're partnering with God to bring lifeinto the world. Don't you want
to be an active partner in thatin a real way. And so Ebane
has built a business where she ishelping certify Doulah's with the Holy Spirit at
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the with the Holy Spirit at theforefront, and so she reached out and
just asked us if we would talkabout our experience giving birth to MJ,
which y'all have already heard him.He is here with us on this episode.
And we were immediately like, yeah, like let's do it, because
that's a perspective that we have beencalled to share and obviously it's one thing
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of sharing it in our video theway we did on social media. It's
another thing to be able to actuallytalk to a Black dula who is training
other Black dulas who are believers andwho are trying to bring in the Holy
Spirit actively and boldly in their practices. I wouldn't even say bring. I
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would say I would say, firstinvite, and to invite the Holy Spirit
means that you give over control.And I think that's the part even for
to read that was actually comment onthis to her, like most most people
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in her predicament, and I'm justsaying, like, not the detail of
a midwife, but but the overarchingtheme of I have an incredibly important role
in the safety of a person orpersons, and I am allowing the Holy
Spirit to control all of it.I'm not getting mad because I wasn't involved.
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I'm not fitting away or trying tosabotage any of that. I am
allowing whatever it's supposed to happen happenwithout my direct input. That is a
gift because oftentimes, especially when you'redealing with professionals, and I'm gonna say
this, you don't have to,but this is the opposite of the experience
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that I've had in hospitals where peoplethat are in a position of authority professionally
trump you and how you feel andthe way you want to do things and
the bob that's created all of theabove. So having this experience with to
read where we would have trusted herin anything she said, in anything she
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could have been like diego jogged aroundthe block, it was like, look
on a round, but we're aboutto go out and do it because we
trust our midwife and she didn't abuseour trust. And that's the beauty of
honestly, whatever and is doing withthese other women, it's putting that in
them earlier, like hey, yesyou're prepared, Yes you're a professional.
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Yes you show up ready and willingand all of the above. But if
the Holy Spirit has other plans,we put our plan to the back on
the backgrounder. And that to mewhat it was bigger than just like childbirth,
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because if we can and to livelives that way. Yeah, those
one of the big conversations that wehad in one of the Umu Sundboys that
the Holy Spirit gave me doing thatcall that continues to replant my head over
and over and over again when youoperate that way every single day. Delivering
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a baby was no different, right, Like we already operate allowing the Holy
spirits to have full control. Andit was as if you know, people
always say, like you got totrain a muscle, right, so faith,
you got to train yourself to Okay, not lean on my own understanding,
but lean on God. What isGod saying? What is what is
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truth in this scenario? What shouldI you know, respond with that isn't
myself but the fruit of the spirit. Like those activities and those actions that
you practice on a day to daybasis in small ways every day, actually
work that muscle to when you havea big day like birth and a baby,
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it's like that muscle has been strengthenedand worked out, and when it's
game time, you excel and youare able to really lean on that muscle
in a way where it's like whoa, Like this muscle got some power behind
it, Like, so let's takeit back to work. Because I think
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about this, right, David's protectingthe sheet and he shows up that she's
Goliath, and he's talking smack backto them about Goliathe and they're like,
Saul included you ain't ready, likeyou ain't ready for this, but they
didn't know that he'd been spending timewith the Holy Spirit. So this was
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more so you seeing for the firsttime. Was always been at work.
Yeah, I've been. I've beenkilling the lion. If you're trying to
come in, I've been wrestling ina bear and wrestling the mouth or I've
done those things. So this it'snot in my strength, right, that's
what the muscle, that whole analogy, that's what it's about. Yeah,
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it was never about our strength todo any of visit. It wasn't about
our strength to deliver a baby.It was about us trusting the Holy Spirit
in all of our lives. Yeah. So that way, whatever comes,
whether us delivering a baby, whetherthat's this house, whether that's having more
kids, whatever that is, we'renot flustered because we know that we don't
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control anything anywhere and we feel safein our relationship with the Father, so
we know at the end of theday. Yeah, yeah, man,
look like this never but this isjust this is just us working our faith
muscle. Yeah. And so weend up on this call with these other
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duels that are in training, andwe're able to share our birth story,
and really it was Mark's time toshine. Like I was just about to
say, let me say this becausewhen she asked, I honestly in my
mind nowadays, when people reach outto us, I'm automatically to friends and
to you like, yeah, theyreally just want my wife. So look,
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I'm just gonna pay my role,whatever their role is. And I
wasn't there planning on being on thecar. I'm like, well, we
got, you know, three kids. I'll be with the kids and you
can like do what you got todo. And it just so happened that
the way, like the day wasplanned out around Simone and Drive and Madison
and they can help with the kids. Yeah. And it wasn't until we're
we're sitting on a brunch and Ithink I made the comment like you said,
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don't forget we are to call itfive and I was like, oh,
well, you know, I'll bewith the kids or whatever. He
was like, or you can takethe car. And that was my first
time even thinking that I would bea part of this for real, because
partly to this, I'm like,I'm not. I'm not even so so
there's no room for me to practicenothing. There doesn't even play nothing back
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in my head, how I wantto start nothing. So when we finally
sit down and had a conversation andthen you have to go get MJ immediately,
So there's like this fifteen minute blockof time that they're asking me questions
specifically that yet again I had torely on the Holy Spirit to answer and
respond to it because I couldn't prepare. Yeah, and they were so taken
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aback and so inspired, Like youknow, really for that call, I
was on the sidelines, which youknow most people would think, but you
the MoMA, and like you don'twant to birth the baby. I'm like,
yeah. But like when I andas I continue to think back about
this birth experience, it so wasn'tnot It so was not about me,
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like I feel like with Mica obviouslythat was the first time we had a
natural birth, and like it wasme kind of in my head about so
many things and just like not knowingwhat to expect, and then even after
like feeling like just like superwoman andjust being so blessed and grateful that like
we could have even experienced it theway that we did. And then this
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time I was so focused on justlike submitting myself to whatever God had for
us and believing that. You know, in April, when God told me
that I was going to have abeautiful birth, I literally wrote it down
in my journal and I did thiswhole presidancy series all this stuff, Like
it still was like I was,it was about me, and I felt
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that through the pregnancy, but likeour birth was not about me. It
was so you, Like it wasso about you and like the redemption of
your birth experiences as a father andbeing able to literally mark birthing mark like
literally catching him and I felt likein the best way possible, just a
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supportive role, like I just hadto physically do that part of getting him
out, but like you coached me, you unwrapped the chord, you caught
him, you know what I mean. So it's just like when I think
about the testimony of that and thatdo look call being the first time that
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you could do it on your ownfor a moment, like was so beautiful
and the impact was so evident onthose women like they were just like it
was. They were in awe andso was I. And sometimes I feel
weird because like it's so unique ofan experience and so rare, like the
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life we live and like the experiencesthat we have, and to be the
one that's like watching and experiencing andobserving you speak about MJ's birth and like
how involved you were and like themasking the questions that they asked, and
it kind of just reminded me like, Yeah, this ain't this ain't normal,
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Like this is not common, Likewe could be and probably will be
answering questions and speaking about that momentfor the rest of our lives because it
was that much of a life alteringmiracle moment. Yeah, m M yeah,
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I think man. One of thereasons we talked about a third yesterday
and this morning broll and what Christis saying like or Matthew Matthew seven twenty
nines, like the last scripture ofthe Center in amount and it says that
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the people were astonished by his doctrinespeaking of Jesus because he spoke with such
a thirty unlike the scribes. Webroke down the thirty and scribes to better
understand that. And it was becauseof jesus experiences that he had set a
thirty and from who that authority wascoming from versus abscribe. That's like you
can write about things, and youknow, but without the experience, it's
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hard to relay that same passion andthat same energy around what you're trying to
say. And I think about thatas it pertains to like this experience because
and why we go so hard,like why we post or we post on
show we shared, because we wantmore people to experience this because of what
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we're experiencing. And it's attainable.Like that's the craziest point that it's like,
this ain't just us, like exactlywhat you said, Like you could
have taken and Mark and Jade outof that video and it would not have
made a difference because the Holy Spiritwas doing everything. And that is what
anyone can have. Anyone can havethose experiences where you are literally living out
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miracles, signs, wonders like we'recalled to that. But the thing is,
so many of us never get tothe place of maturity that God really
desires for us because we get sodistracted by everything else going on in the
world and our own preconceived notions ofhow life is supposed to be and what
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our relationship with God is supposed tolook like. And it's so crazy because
you know, if you seek him, he will reveal himself, but it's
a partnership. There's you got toput skin in the game, Like you
really got to believe that what iswritten in that book is real. Well
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know, seeking means I'm looking forsomething that I don't have, So I'm
not holding on to what I thinkit is, I think it's supposed to
be, to what I think itlooks like. And that is literally our
birth story because sharing these women andI even went all the way back to
like you know, being nineteen andsharing that experience and walking them through them
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and showing through my transparency through mytestimony that like, hey, God used
this as a redeement opportunity, ofredemption opportunity, and it was beyond anything
that I could have even thought ofor fathom. Like I still think about
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that to this day every time Iwatched that video. I played it yesterday
at the Urgent care getting my stitchesfrom my finger I cut open, but
I played it for two of thewomen there and she was crying on the
job like this is this is wildAnd no matter what our beliefs are,
whether they're different or the same,the impact is still felt. Yeah,
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that's the power of your fruit,Like all I do is show the video,
and based on the video, she'slike, I can tell it you
great husband and father, Like theway you're the conversation with the midwife,
I mean with the duelas like whatyeah, I'm sitting up there like God,
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it would have been enough for MJto be born safe and sound the
way my wife wanted him to be. That would I would have been just
as excited and happy. And becauseof my submission, he allowed me to
have a moment. Yeah, becauseof my submission, father been trying to
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make it about me and all ofthat. It wouldn't have It wouldn't have
been the same. Hey man,So so we do that. It was
incredible. You both walked away,Wow, like this is great. Um,
this experience was something that we coulddefinitely see having more off than now,
Like there wasn't off our last conversationabout this. And Sunday morning,
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wife, he gets a DMA.She's the one I just could not I
couldnot believe. So Sunday morning geta DM from one of the women that
were on the call, and thiswoman specifically, Mark actually encouraged because she
was feeling a little apprehensive, feelinga little bit of anxious about her first
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client having her baby, and soI didn't know any of this because that
was actually during the time that Iwasn't there. I was going to get
MJ and so she sends a message, but I didn't see her message.
I just saw you want to grabher quick, let her come in here
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we go. Here's sorry, okay, come on, sorry, you gotta
sit down, mama. Okay,okay, I'm sitting the swing, sitting
swing. Come on, you helpyour number. Yeah, m hm,
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got everybody in here now, Sookay, there you go. You gotta
be quiet, okay, mama,okay. Um. I didn't see her
message, but I did see amessage from eb and A, and so
she leaves this voice message and weare in shock. Good morning, Jade
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and Mark. Thank you so muchfor coming on and talking to my students.
We've been getting so many just theywere overwhelmed by your story and I've
been getting so many much good feedbackfrom it. I want to share just
one quick testimony so far, sostudents shun trail. She talked to you
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guys about how she was feeling hesitant, still being a dueling training and having
her first birth coming up. Hermama was due like next week or something.
Well, this morning, to makea very long story short, this
morning, her mother called her attwelve o'clock. She didn't see that.
She did not see the message untillike three or four of the Holy Spirit
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woke her up and she was ableto go to her client. And it's
another long story, but she livesin the same apartment complex as her client.
It's crazy how that all happened.But she was able to go downstairs.
And when she went downstairs, herclient was on hands and knees push
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a lot, not pushing, butgrunting as if she was going to be
pushing. Long story short. Shantrellcalls the midwife to let her know what's
going on. She's still, youknow, talking client through and next thing
you know, she was only therelike maybe twenty to thirty minutes. And
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next thing you know, the baby'shead comes out and Shantreial, the one
that Mark spoke to just Saturday,had to deliver this baby boy by herself.
So hearing the testimony of you guys'sbirth and hearing Mark speak and specifically
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Mark being able to speak into her, speak life into her, that was
so Holy Spirit like he had tospeak life into her in that moment because
God had done the same thing withhim, and God had used his hands
in order to deliver you guys' baby. So it's like a transfer happened somehow,
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and she was just so she feltso ready after that, not knowing
she was literally just a few dayslater going to have to catch her very
first DULA clients a baby. Wow, we cannot make this stuff up,
not to mention that, but theclients not even a believer, and this
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baby came out into the arms ofa believer and she was praying even over
this baby life. So your storyhelped her so much to be able to
prepare your testimony and what God didthrough you guys. So I'm just so
excited that they are getting prepared tobe spirit led. Holy Spirit laid dulas.
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So I was no good. Iwas in the kitchen making breakfast and
I was tears and I'm just worshipingbecause it just continues to just show how
we said at the top of thisepisode that what you go through, we
normally put a negative connotation on gothrough like normally, but that can also
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be going through something positive and that'snot for you. Yeah, you get
a chance to experience it, andthat's the goodness of our Father. But
it's experienced so that we can shareand help other people. God uses people.
Here, are you an available vessel? So being able to have this
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experience where this woman is literally sayingtwo days after we have this conversation,
two days after we have this conversation, that she delivers her first child without
the midwife, was like what yeah? And what so she herself, the
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Dulah that was in training sent usa message as well, kind of breaking
down the story. But you knowwhat I thought was so funny but also
so like how how it usually isis like she told her version in the
DM, but like it didn't evencompare to eb and A actually describing the
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way it happened and hearing her voicetell that story from like an outside perspective,
because I think like whenever we're usedby the Holy Spirit, we really
have like this like sense of detachment, So like I can, I felt
like the dula and training Chantrell whenshe was telling the story in the DM,
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she was giving very much self likedetails, but like she was being
humble about how much she really activatedin that moment, while Ebana's account could
really give color to like no,like she really that was her first client
and she wasn't even finished for hercertification, not even not even certified yet.
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So the only way that this waspossible was because of the Holy Spirit,
and God knew that she specifically wasgoing to need that encouragement from you
on that call literally three days before. So just see in that example,
thank God that mommy is okay,that baby was okay, that Chantrelle had
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this incredible, miraculous experience that isgoing to literally impact the way she cares
for every mom and family moving forward. I'm sure when you feel a tug
on your heart to do something orsay something to someone, and you may
not even know why, but Godis putting it on you do it because
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you have no idea how much ofan impact you think. It's just I
don't know why I'm supposed to likegive you is five dollars, but like
I'm supposed to give it to you, and the impact of that five dollars
will go beyond what it was inyour bocket, right, but even beyond
Like I feel like I won't evenuse that example because everybody talks about like
testimony versus like I woke up andthere was ten dollars in my mailbox and
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that was my testimony. Know,like, you may have an urge to
like tell somebody something specific or encouragethem, and you may not even know
them. They might be somebody randomon the street, and you know,
you just feel a pool to themto encourage them whatever, do it.
Because we didn't know who any ofthese women were. We never met them
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before and still haven't met them inreal life, you know, but the
impact was life changing. Impactical obedienceon a zoom call, the impactical obedience
is life changing. So yeah,so we're gonna crash this episode with landing
emergency the cat nap because it wasnot a legitimate, not a real nap.
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Relinquis control. Your niquis control tothe Holy Spirit. The outcome will
be better than your best option.You your best ending does not compare.
My best ending did not compare.My best ending did not compare. Well.
Even the concept of like giving birthis such a like a huge mountain
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that you know you're going to haveto climb when you're pregnant. And to
know that God allowed me such asmooth and quick birth this time, that
alone, like there's so many layersto this that were just sharing. Okay,
I'm not gonna dive back in diackin next time. Love y'all,
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I Mark and I hope you enjoytoday's episode. It's truly a pleasure to
be a part of your day.Keep up with us on social media,
but also feel free to email usat team at the giboatlife dot com if
you got any prayer request or questionsthat we could answer until next time.
Chat soon. Bye.
What's good, y'all. It's Markand Jade God both here. We're just
a couple of millennials who met atthe peak of our careers as a beauty
influencer and a corporate cool kid whodecided that life wasn't enough without God.
Our platform and this show are allabout how our journey to healing and how
following after Jesus really changed us andour marriage forever. We aren't your traditional
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churchgoers, and we appreciate that aboutourselves. Through our testimonies, we hope
that you find relief, comfort,revelation, and most importantly, the spirit
of God. Let's get into thisepisode. Yeah, why didn't tell me
to do my makeup and stuff?Make up? Don't put it well?
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Intelligence parfe popping. Yes, we'regonna testing money service last night. I'll
lead a Bible study on Wednesday nightscalled the Memo for me. And so
if you have any men that couldbenefit from the transparency, the vulnerability,
the word, feel free to shootus a link hill us a DM rather
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and I was very excited because mytestimony this week was what we're going to
talk about today, because it justshows how obedience and like righteousness really it
goes beyond what our minds can fathom, Like the impact. It's not just
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someone said last night what you're goingthrough. It's truly not for you.
It has so much more reached thanthat. But if you're hoarding it,
it cannot do what it was purposedto do. Our birth story is a
great example of that because from myfirst birth of nineteen to this one,
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when we get to share that entirestory, but I think like when we
do, would just give so muchmore hope that you're not that thing that
you experienced that God does with deem. It's not just that he can,
but he actually does it. Andso sharing this bird story was like,
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given what was actually going on,Like we had our own plans. We
had the same videographer that was supposedto come that did MICA's video, came
for MJ's what was supposed to comefor MJ's, but given like the timing
and just how fast everything went,she couldn't come. So what started as
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like you saying, hey, babe, you know, post the phone up
on the couch and just get whatwe can from you, actually finishing the
video and sharing like that fifty sevenseconds with me was like whoa and I
still cry every time I see it. And so from that video, you
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were like, I'm gonna post iton TikTok first and then I'll post on
Instagram a few days later. Andwhen I see the impact that is having
one tis her, I'm like,I'm sure you want to not post it
on Instagram. Post on Instagram,and people are still watching it, and
it's it's so like take us outand put anybody there. The impact is
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still present because the Holy Spirit wasso presant. So we share it and
the woman I don't know her name, you know her name, Eba,
reaches out. She says me aDM voice note says you're a DM voice
note, just congratulatory, sharing howshe she's worked with our midwife three before
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and just how she loves the wayto redust her job because the spirit led
and that's all that's actually very impactfulbecause to be spirit led simply means it's
not about what I desire to do, but whatever the Holy Spirit it leads
me to do. And in spaces, in very important spaces like that,
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that would be a place that anybodywould totally be okay with you doing what
you're taught, like by the bookyeah, because it's it's safe, right,
but to read chooses to a lotof older sperces that lead her and
she has by the book experiences tocertified midwife. She's worked in hospitals in
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birth you know, labor and deliveryunits since she was fifteen, so she
had a very early start and introductionto what birth is. So she comes
with that knowledge of man, butalso her spirituality infuses another layer to her
that just makes her such an incrediblemidwife and like someone that we absolutely love.
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And Ebane is also taking that sameapproach when it comes to how she
trains dulas. She's a black dulawho has a certification program for other dulas
that specifically want to practice a holyspirit led way of being a dula basically
and way of doing birth. Really, I love it. I mean we
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did that. Didn't even realize thatlike that was even like a very specific
way of doing it. Because whenEbene first reached out, you know,
she was kind of explaining why shefelt led to, you know, reach
out to us, and you know, one of the things that she said
that I totally agreed with was like, when you enter into the natural birth
and midwife space, there's a lotof very extreme ideologies and like ways of
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thinking, and a lot of peoplein that space actually operate out of witchcraft
and infuse different aspects of you know, having your ancestors help deliver babies,
sort of energy that is not ofGod, yet they're infusing that into the
birth practices. But this is thisis the kicker though it's possible, what
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oh to infuse that step in Ye, yes, and yes it's real.
That's something that Yeah, it's real. And that's something that bowed my mind
because even going to the bottle beforewe obviously do and and I want to
say it's first Samuel or maybe secondSamuel after um solid is getting ready to
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um. I think it's getting readyto to to die actually and getting ready
to go to this war. Andhe decides to go to a um.
I don't know it was a seeror some sort of spirit conjure to call
up a dead Samuel who was aprophet before that was like the prophet that
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annointed him, that annowne to David. He calls up dead Samuel for like
more information on whether he was goingto die in this next battle. And
Samuel came back and someone's like,yeah, why are you? Why are
you like waking me up? Likeare you what God told this? Like,
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do y'all realize what is happening inthis story? Like this, this
man who was anointed by God througha prophet, has lived a life in
such a way where at the endof his life he is going to a
which a seer who not only tellshim and does things like you know,
a little hocus focused up. No, the seer actually brings like Samuel back
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to earth like spiritually, serially,so like yeah, like it happened like
having a conversation. And it wascrazy too because at first the seer didn't
didn't know that Saul. Saul waslike trying to hide his appearance, Yeah,
so that they would know that likethe King of Israel, this quote
unquote man of God is in heretalking to a seer trying to get more
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information about how are he going todie? From Samuel who is dead.
And as I was even studying thatback in the day, that that was
why one of the reasons anyway,why God buried Moses in an unmarked place,
because calling up ancestors ain't this newphenomenon, nor is it fake.
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Is a fake, It's been aroundand it's real. Like, I think
that one thing for me as Igroup spiritually was like this idea that believing
everything in the Bible is real,it's not all. Yes, Jesus spoke
in parables at times, but thisain't one of them times. This is
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that he spoke when we're still true, right right, So he wasn't using
in the parables that were like we'reimpossible, colony. These are all parables
that that are honestly normal everyday thingsthat we look over. But Christ is
like, no, everything happens onpurpose. So there's even a purpose in
the bird going there to get hisfood and the flowers in the way they
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grow. So he was literally bringingspiritual knowledge that's normally like we either look
over or the past down to earthso that we can actually understand. Because
in what he's saying is like hecould keep it up there, but he
brings it down so that it's nottoo far or too high for us to
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actually grasp. So, yeah,like this, you know, bringing back
our ancestors and calling them back tohelp us and all of that. People
do it. That's legit, butthat that is the same as as going
to anything or anybody that's not dry. It's an illegal entry into the spirit
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realm. There's a legal way toenter the spirit realm, and that's through
God, through Jesus. There areillegal ways. That's why people who like
do ayahuasca and get trippy off shroomsand stuff really do have these experiences like
they're real because they are entering adifferent realm and they're entering without God's protection
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and without his hand. And I'veactually heard and this is a tangent,
but I've heard stories from people Iknow and people like on YouTube and stuff.
We've seen testimonies of people describing,like, you know, meeting Jesus
in that realm and angels and talkingabout how like that was the way that
they actually were able to get outwas because they recognize that, like,
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oh, I'm not supposed to behere, like these other spirits that are
not of God are recognizing that I'mhere, and they're actually excited because they
want me to get caught up andthey want me to essentially right. But
to get back to the main point, which was the story about so well,
actually, hello, because you justbrought something to mind when you said
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they, I mean they seek tokill you. Yeah, And I believe
that more people, for whatever reason, don't understand that the end result of
sad thing is death for you.Yeah. So yeah, they just start
off with I'm just trying to dothis. Yeah, I'm just trying to
get this response, and it worksto continue to draw you in, ye
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to death. Yeah. So there'sanother story in Acts on Acts eleven whether
this woman is saying the right thing, but she's possessed. So she's saying
um, like to Paul, likeyou represent the the most High God or
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like something like that, and she'srepeating it over and over, and we
the context that she was a witchand there were men that were taking advantage
of her gift for paid for them. So Paul eventually gets sick of hearing
her say this and cause the spiritout of her. Then those men get
mad at Paul because she's no longerpossessed, and then they put Paul in
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jail. But it was like whenI first met found like, but she's
not saying a lie. Yeah yeah, And most people think, oh,
wishes be lying, So I waslike, no, that's what pulls you
in because Sadan wraps a lie withthe truth. So the president in the
box is a lie. The wrappingpapers truth. If he can just get
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you to open up the box andrip the paper off. Open with the
box, you'll see the lie.But now you've already wasted your time and
energy. Wait. I want toput in here that sound bit of Kanye
being like got you, Oh,got you. Not to say that Kanye
is the devil, but like,that's what Satan is and does. When
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you fall for the counterfeit, whenyou guess what most of the time that
got you, it's death. Yeah. So taking it back the scripture,
when Christ up not that's his grace, Yeah, does the demon possess um
man and Christ comes around and thedemons demons are like, hey, like,
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please leave us alone, like,Son of God, cast us into
those pigs over there. Christ like, I ainate cool, go into the
pigs. They go into the pigs, and the pigs immediately run off of
cliff into a into water and die. That was an illustration of what the
goal is for these spirits inside ofyou. Yeah, the goal is for
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them to kill you. Yeah.So he casting into the pigs so that
everybody can have I witness account ofHey, that's the goal. Yeah,
do you want to be those pigs? Right, So bring us all the
way bad speak about life birth.Yea, Why this is why incorporating God
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in your journey through pregnancy before you'reabout to get pregnant, um, you
know, during your birth and laborexperience, why being tapped into the Holy
Spirit is so important because He's supposedto be involved when you bring life into
this world. When that that personin your belly the moment you have a
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heartbeat is alive, There's a soulthere. And so you have to realize
that you are partnering with God,whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
You're partnering with God to bring lifeinto the world. Don't you want
to be an active partner in thatin a real way. And so Ebane
has built a business where she ishelping certify Doulah's with the Holy Spirit at
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the with the Holy Spirit at theforefront, and so she reached out and
just asked us if we would talkabout our experience giving birth to MJ,
which y'all have already heard him.He is here with us on this episode.
And we were immediately like, yeah, like let's do it, because
that's a perspective that we have beencalled to share and obviously it's one thing
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of sharing it in our video theway we did on social media. It's
another thing to be able to actuallytalk to a Black dula who is training
other Black dulas who are believers andwho are trying to bring in the Holy
Spirit actively and boldly in their practices. I wouldn't even say bring. I
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would say I would say, firstinvite, and to invite the Holy Spirit
means that you give over control.And I think that's the part even for
to read that was actually comment onthis to her, like most most people
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in her predicament, and I'm justsaying, like, not the detail of
a midwife, but but the overarchingtheme of I have an incredibly important role
in the safety of a person orpersons, and I am allowing the Holy
Spirit to control all of it.I'm not getting mad because I wasn't involved.
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I'm not fitting away or trying tosabotage any of that. I am
allowing whatever it's supposed to happen happenwithout my direct input. That is a
gift because oftentimes, especially when you'redealing with professionals, and I'm gonna say
this, you don't have to,but this is the opposite of the experience
(16:52):
that I've had in hospitals where peoplethat are in a position of authority professionally
trump you and how you feel andthe way you want to do things and
the bob that's created all of theabove. So having this experience with to
read where we would have trusted herin anything she said, in anything she
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could have been like diego jogged aroundthe block, it was like, look
on a round, but we're aboutto go out and do it because we
trust our midwife and she didn't abuseour trust. And that's the beauty of
honestly, whatever and is doing withthese other women, it's putting that in
them earlier, like hey, yesyou're prepared, Yes you're a professional.
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Yes you show up ready and willingand all of the above. But if
the Holy Spirit has other plans,we put our plan to the back on
the backgrounder. And that to mewhat it was bigger than just like childbirth,
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because if we can and to livelives that way. Yeah, those
one of the big conversations that wehad in one of the Umu Sundboys that
the Holy Spirit gave me doing thatcall that continues to replant my head over
and over and over again when youoperate that way every single day. Delivering
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a baby was no different, right, Like we already operate allowing the Holy
spirits to have full control. Andit was as if you know, people
always say, like you got totrain a muscle, right, so faith,
you got to train yourself to Okay, not lean on my own understanding,
but lean on God. What isGod saying? What is what is
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truth in this scenario? What shouldI you know, respond with that isn't
myself but the fruit of the spirit. Like those activities and those actions that
you practice on a day to daybasis in small ways every day, actually
work that muscle to when you havea big day like birth and a baby,
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it's like that muscle has been strengthenedand worked out, and when it's
game time, you excel and youare able to really lean on that muscle
in a way where it's like whoa, Like this muscle got some power behind
it, Like, so let's takeit back to work. Because I think
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about this, right, David's protectingthe sheet and he shows up that she's
Goliath, and he's talking smack backto them about Goliathe and they're like,
Saul included you ain't ready, likeyou ain't ready for this, but they
didn't know that he'd been spending timewith the Holy Spirit. So this was
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more so you seeing for the firsttime. Was always been at work.
Yeah, I've been. I've beenkilling the lion. If you're trying to
come in, I've been wrestling ina bear and wrestling the mouth or I've
done those things. So this it'snot in my strength, right, that's
what the muscle, that whole analogy, that's what it's about. Yeah,
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it was never about our strength todo any of visit. It wasn't about
our strength to deliver a baby.It was about us trusting the Holy Spirit
in all of our lives. Yeah. So that way, whatever comes,
whether us delivering a baby, whetherthat's this house, whether that's having more
kids, whatever that is, we'renot flustered because we know that we don't
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control anything anywhere and we feel safein our relationship with the Father, so
we know at the end of theday. Yeah, yeah, man,
look like this never but this isjust this is just us working our faith
muscle. Yeah. And so weend up on this call with these other
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duels that are in training, andwe're able to share our birth story,
and really it was Mark's time toshine. Like I was just about to
say, let me say this becausewhen she asked, I honestly in my
mind nowadays, when people reach outto us, I'm automatically to friends and
to you like, yeah, theyreally just want my wife. So look,
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I'm just gonna pay my role,whatever their role is. And I
wasn't there planning on being on thecar. I'm like, well, we
got, you know, three kids. I'll be with the kids and you
can like do what you got todo. And it just so happened that
the way, like the day wasplanned out around Simone and Drive and Madison
and they can help with the kids. Yeah. And it wasn't until we're
we're sitting on a brunch and Ithink I made the comment like you said,
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don't forget we are to call itfive and I was like, oh,
well, you know, I'll bewith the kids or whatever. He
was like, or you can takethe car. And that was my first
time even thinking that I would bea part of this for real, because
partly to this, I'm like,I'm not. I'm not even so so
there's no room for me to practicenothing. There doesn't even play nothing back
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in my head, how I wantto start nothing. So when we finally
sit down and had a conversation andthen you have to go get MJ immediately,
So there's like this fifteen minute blockof time that they're asking me questions
specifically that yet again I had torely on the Holy Spirit to answer and
respond to it because I couldn't prepare. Yeah, and they were so taken
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aback and so inspired, Like youknow, really for that call, I
was on the sidelines, which youknow most people would think, but you
the MoMA, and like you don'twant to birth the baby. I'm like,
yeah. But like when I andas I continue to think back about
this birth experience, it so wasn'tnot It so was not about me,
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like I feel like with Mica obviouslythat was the first time we had a
natural birth, and like it wasme kind of in my head about so
many things and just like not knowingwhat to expect, and then even after
like feeling like just like superwoman andjust being so blessed and grateful that like
we could have even experienced it theway that we did. And then this
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time I was so focused on justlike submitting myself to whatever God had for
us and believing that. You know, in April, when God told me
that I was going to have abeautiful birth, I literally wrote it down
in my journal and I did thiswhole presidancy series all this stuff, Like
it still was like I was,it was about me, and I felt
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that through the pregnancy, but likeour birth was not about me. It
was so you, Like it wasso about you and like the redemption of
your birth experiences as a father andbeing able to literally mark birthing mark like
literally catching him and I felt likein the best way possible, just a
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supportive role, like I just hadto physically do that part of getting him
out, but like you coached me, you unwrapped the chord, you caught
him, you know what I mean. So it's just like when I think
about the testimony of that and thatdo look call being the first time that
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you could do it on your ownfor a moment, like was so beautiful
and the impact was so evident onthose women like they were just like it
was. They were in awe andso was I. And sometimes I feel
weird because like it's so unique ofan experience and so rare, like the
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life we live and like the experiencesthat we have, and to be the
one that's like watching and experiencing andobserving you speak about MJ's birth and like
how involved you were and like themasking the questions that they asked, and
it kind of just reminded me like, Yeah, this ain't this ain't normal,
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Like this is not common, Likewe could be and probably will be
answering questions and speaking about that momentfor the rest of our lives because it
was that much of a life alteringmiracle moment. Yeah, m M yeah,
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I think man. One of thereasons we talked about a third yesterday
and this morning broll and what Christis saying like or Matthew Matthew seven twenty
nines, like the last scripture ofthe Center in amount and it says that
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the people were astonished by his doctrinespeaking of Jesus because he spoke with such
a thirty unlike the scribes. Webroke down the thirty and scribes to better
understand that. And it was becauseof jesus experiences that he had set a
thirty and from who that authority wascoming from versus abscribe. That's like you
can write about things, and youknow, but without the experience, it's
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hard to relay that same passion andthat same energy around what you're trying to
say. And I think about thatas it pertains to like this experience because
and why we go so hard,like why we post or we post on
show we shared, because we wantmore people to experience this because of what
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we're experiencing. And it's attainable.Like that's the craziest point that it's like,
this ain't just us, like exactlywhat you said, Like you could
have taken and Mark and Jade outof that video and it would not have
made a difference because the Holy Spiritwas doing everything. And that is what
anyone can have. Anyone can havethose experiences where you are literally living out
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miracles, signs, wonders like we'recalled to that. But the thing is,
so many of us never get tothe place of maturity that God really
desires for us because we get sodistracted by everything else going on in the
world and our own preconceived notions ofhow life is supposed to be and what
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our relationship with God is supposed tolook like. And it's so crazy because
you know, if you seek him, he will reveal himself, but it's
a partnership. There's you got toput skin in the game, Like you
really got to believe that what iswritten in that book is real. Well
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know, seeking means I'm looking forsomething that I don't have, So I'm
not holding on to what I thinkit is, I think it's supposed to
be, to what I think itlooks like. And that is literally our
birth story because sharing these women andI even went all the way back to
like you know, being nineteen andsharing that experience and walking them through them
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and showing through my transparency through mytestimony that like, hey, God used
this as a redeement opportunity, ofredemption opportunity, and it was beyond anything
that I could have even thought ofor fathom. Like I still think about
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that to this day every time Iwatched that video. I played it yesterday
at the Urgent care getting my stitchesfrom my finger I cut open, but
I played it for two of thewomen there and she was crying on the
job like this is this is wildAnd no matter what our beliefs are,
whether they're different or the same,the impact is still felt. Yeah,
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that's the power of your fruit,Like all I do is show the video,
and based on the video, she'slike, I can tell it you
great husband and father, Like theway you're the conversation with the midwife,
I mean with the duelas like whatyeah, I'm sitting up there like God,
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it would have been enough for MJto be born safe and sound the
way my wife wanted him to be. That would I would have been just
as excited and happy. And becauseof my submission, he allowed me to
have a moment. Yeah, becauseof my submission, father been trying to
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make it about me and all ofthat. It wouldn't have It wouldn't have
been the same. Hey man,So so we do that. It was
incredible. You both walked away,Wow, like this is great. Um,
this experience was something that we coulddefinitely see having more off than now,
Like there wasn't off our last conversationabout this. And Sunday morning,
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wife, he gets a DMA.She's the one I just could not I
couldnot believe. So Sunday morning geta DM from one of the women that
were on the call, and thiswoman specifically, Mark actually encouraged because she
was feeling a little apprehensive, feelinga little bit of anxious about her first
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client having her baby, and soI didn't know any of this because that
was actually during the time that Iwasn't there. I was going to get
MJ and so she sends a message, but I didn't see her message.
I just saw you want to grabher quick, let her come in here
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we go. Here's sorry, okay, come on, sorry, you gotta
sit down, mama. Okay,okay, I'm sitting the swing, sitting
swing. Come on, you helpyour number. Yeah, m hm,
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got everybody in here now, Sookay, there you go. You gotta
be quiet, okay, mama,okay. Um. I didn't see her
message, but I did see amessage from eb and A, and so
she leaves this voice message and weare in shock. Good morning, Jade
(31:55):
and Mark. Thank you so muchfor coming on and talking to my students.
We've been getting so many just theywere overwhelmed by your story and I've
been getting so many much good feedbackfrom it. I want to share just
one quick testimony so far, sostudents shun trail. She talked to you
(32:15):
guys about how she was feeling hesitant, still being a dueling training and having
her first birth coming up. Hermama was due like next week or something.
Well, this morning, to makea very long story short, this
morning, her mother called her attwelve o'clock. She didn't see that.
She did not see the message untillike three or four of the Holy Spirit
(32:38):
woke her up and she was ableto go to her client. And it's
another long story, but she livesin the same apartment complex as her client.
It's crazy how that all happened.But she was able to go downstairs.
And when she went downstairs, herclient was on hands and knees push
(33:00):
a lot, not pushing, butgrunting as if she was going to be
pushing. Long story short. Shantrellcalls the midwife to let her know what's
going on. She's still, youknow, talking client through and next thing
you know, she was only therelike maybe twenty to thirty minutes. And
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next thing you know, the baby'shead comes out and Shantreial, the one
that Mark spoke to just Saturday,had to deliver this baby boy by herself.
So hearing the testimony of you guys'sbirth and hearing Mark speak and specifically
(33:45):
Mark being able to speak into her, speak life into her, that was
so Holy Spirit like he had tospeak life into her in that moment because
God had done the same thing withhim, and God had used his hands
in order to deliver you guys' baby. So it's like a transfer happened somehow,
(34:06):
and she was just so she feltso ready after that, not knowing
she was literally just a few dayslater going to have to catch her very
first DULA clients a baby. Wow, we cannot make this stuff up,
not to mention that, but theclients not even a believer, and this
(34:28):
baby came out into the arms ofa believer and she was praying even over
this baby life. So your storyhelped her so much to be able to
prepare your testimony and what God didthrough you guys. So I'm just so
excited that they are getting prepared tobe spirit led. Holy Spirit laid dulas.
(34:52):
So I was no good. Iwas in the kitchen making breakfast and
I was tears and I'm just worshipingbecause it just continues to just show how
we said at the top of thisepisode that what you go through, we
normally put a negative connotation on gothrough like normally, but that can also
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be going through something positive and that'snot for you. Yeah, you get
a chance to experience it, andthat's the goodness of our Father. But
it's experienced so that we can shareand help other people. God uses people.
Here, are you an available vessel? So being able to have this
(35:37):
experience where this woman is literally sayingtwo days after we have this conversation,
two days after we have this conversation, that she delivers her first child without
the midwife, was like what yeah? And what so she herself, the
(36:00):
Dulah that was in training sent usa message as well, kind of breaking
down the story. But you knowwhat I thought was so funny but also
so like how how it usually isis like she told her version in the
DM, but like it didn't evencompare to eb and A actually describing the
(36:22):
way it happened and hearing her voicetell that story from like an outside perspective,
because I think like whenever we're usedby the Holy Spirit, we really
have like this like sense of detachment, So like I can, I felt
like the dula and training Chantrell whenshe was telling the story in the DM,
(36:43):
she was giving very much self likedetails, but like she was being
humble about how much she really activatedin that moment, while Ebana's account could
really give color to like no,like she really that was her first client
and she wasn't even finished for hercertification, not even not even certified yet.
(37:07):
So the only way that this waspossible was because of the Holy Spirit,
and God knew that she specifically wasgoing to need that encouragement from you
on that call literally three days before. So just see in that example,
thank God that mommy is okay,that baby was okay, that Chantrelle had
(37:31):
this incredible, miraculous experience that isgoing to literally impact the way she cares
for every mom and family moving forward. I'm sure when you feel a tug
on your heart to do something orsay something to someone, and you may
not even know why, but Godis putting it on you do it because
(37:53):
you have no idea how much ofan impact you think. It's just I
don't know why I'm supposed to likegive you is five dollars, but like
I'm supposed to give it to you, and the impact of that five dollars
will go beyond what it was inyour bocket, right, but even beyond
Like I feel like I won't evenuse that example because everybody talks about like
testimony versus like I woke up andthere was ten dollars in my mailbox and
(38:15):
that was my testimony. Know,like, you may have an urge to
like tell somebody something specific or encouragethem, and you may not even know
them. They might be somebody randomon the street, and you know,
you just feel a pool to themto encourage them whatever, do it.
Because we didn't know who any ofthese women were. We never met them
(38:37):
before and still haven't met them inreal life, you know, but the
impact was life changing. Impactical obedienceon a zoom call, the impactical obedience
is life changing. So yeah,so we're gonna crash this episode with landing
emergency the cat nap because it wasnot a legitimate, not a real nap.
(39:02):
Relinquis control. Your niquis control tothe Holy Spirit. The outcome will
be better than your best option.You your best ending does not compare.
My best ending did not compare.My best ending did not compare. Well.
Even the concept of like giving birthis such a like a huge mountain
(39:24):
that you know you're going to haveto climb when you're pregnant. And to
know that God allowed me such asmooth and quick birth this time, that
alone, like there's so many layersto this that were just sharing. Okay,
I'm not gonna dive back in diackin next time. Love y'all,
(39:45):
I Mark and I hope you enjoytoday's episode. It's truly a pleasure to
be a part of your day.Keep up with us on social media,
but also feel free to email usat team at the giboatlife dot com if
you got any prayer request or questionsthat we could answer until next time.
Chat soon. Bye.
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