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and this get quiet the forces.
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share no pretty come back. You shouldn't better force the
city get the payment of rapt is going to leave
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I'm the best kid.
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My matter kids are prefading the fat through.
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know that hope close to me after joke because I'm
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death dude.
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no double meeting if you're weak a week to except.
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last and it's just beculled like my tree press to
all the love I have away, but preinsested that you
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read because I have to learn some.
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Day at the time for occasion in the strange relationship.
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I'm trying to stay away from the compromising situations, a
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That I am no mother to find a woman, they.
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inside of me. I love cannot serve by.
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Take love away with things I don't understand. Just the
strengthen dot I come in fit and that I listen.
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all situation frustration straightened thing.
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sing this crushing because I cannot.
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all have bank just pain inside may.
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Come a way. I'm trying someone not to break and
something to temptage.
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And you know.
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Sho talks of hers. All I think is pain inside
mean callow way. I'm trying someone not to breaking something
up to temptage.
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Every time I'm loves some way I'm family like alcohol
percent this crushing as I cannot shake its feeling and
it's cracking as of hers.
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All that bag is pain.
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Inside, make yo away. I'm trying soon to break and
something up to temptage.
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She s thots of hers, I'll break this pain.
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Inside make up a way I'm trying, And so why
not you breaking something to.
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To take what she don't bother her?
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But if she finds out of aiding her and what
she don't want me and wasting her time taking enodp
grand and I messing with her by what she don't know,
balling her.
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What if she finds out of maid.
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And that's what she done on me and wasting her time.
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She know she don't she don't she go?
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She know me messen what her do that won't be
nothing way time my love. I'm feeling like I'm love same,
just crushing as I can't.
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I sis feeling and it's dragging it anto curs all
I bank this paintings.
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I may get a little way.
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I'm trying so I'm not to breaking something too demptation,
you know, wish.
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a little way. I'm trying so I'm not to breaking
something to dumptage. Every time I'm love way, I'm feeling
like I'm lot same, distrushing because I cannot think.
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that big is paintings. I may get a little way.
I'm trying so I'm not to.
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Breaking something like temptage, you know, sure, thoughts of hers
all that I bank this payments, I make a little
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I'm not too breaking something.
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People you can.
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Bring you something to do, then bring you something.
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But I myself, before I've been change would have made
the cript last design.
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So saying.
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when they come and saying did you want you?
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yourself and let the doctor see, just let the dog see.
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but sweats.
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Maybe you would.
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your bed the.
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the mir get the coming.
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The picture.
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See the country.
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They have to say to decide the.
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the spirit the l side. I've been talking the count.
Bring the plain. People fucking when they come and say
you can't bring.
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It, look in the mirror. Bring yourself and let.
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The dot see.
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Just let the dot see by.
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The plain before they don't. People talking when they come
say you want you think you bring.
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Talk in the mirror. Bring yourself and the domais just
like the domo say.
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constructing brother stomic.
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My maintain is something that doesn't name the priest's main things.
The old Nino I it's all not a pastor.
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I'm telling a feeling something.
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Don't make me have to remind you I'm first last one, not.
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The fucking many fun in lifestyle.
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Do sus to really think before this things? Want to
say such a time, stay there telling your side today
at me.
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And that's the way I mean, that's what it is
about them.
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Not the rest. I said, I feel solf that I can.
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in the court to get the name.
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And then it's a play of f the man saying,
alla tell me we said that we another that I'm
not going to went.
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I'm like, don't the home the living homes to quit
every you know?
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not a d I s a song? What is it enough?
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I get the crack right, not a bred.
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I said, I feels.
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Get tried and working out.
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Gave me out of me.
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Said you.
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Wanted to kut down.
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Gotta tell the rag me down.
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So we need to have that. Do fuck you make
these things? That's what you told me said wanted to
dump down the buntle drag.
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Me down, So we need to have that help.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
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Why you duck down? I guess it?
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Rack.
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Do you make me out.
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One beyond giftedness? Every day genius to find no bird
soars too high if he soars with his own wings,
Friedrich Neetsche. To look at her, you would never suspect
that Anne was in the middle the crisis. She sat
in my office, composed and resplendent in a black Tahari suit.
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The only sign of any agitation was her habit of
coiling and uncoiling her index finger around her stranded pearls.
She had much younger than forty three as my client
now for nearly four months. She at first had been
at a loss to explain rationally what brought No one
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ever expects a midlife crisis, Doctor Jacobson, I certainly didn't
were the first words that Anne spoke to me. At
one point in her legal career, Anne had been a dynamo,
working on a team that won a major case involving
suspected violations of interstate commerce laws in the dairy industry.
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The lead attorney acknowledged that it was her dogged efforts
that helped dismantle the government's case, and seemed destined to
make partner before she was thirty five, and was guaranteed
to pick up the firm's highest profile and potentially most
lucrative cases. Success hadn't come without a price. Those who
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were passed over for promotion in favor of Anne attributed
her meteoric rise to favoritism and not her razor sharp
analytical skills, her amazing intuition, and her twenty six hour workdays.
Once lauded as the consummate most valuable player, and was
eventually plagued on not so quiet whispers about her chameleon
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like ability to transform herself into whommeever each partner wanted
her to be. Suddenly, the qualities that had once been
her most valuable assets felt like her greatest liabilities. Always
someone who took every criticism to heart, Anne stopped trusting
her intuition and her allies. Rather than ranging far and
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wide to offer colleagues's health, anticipating their problems before they
even identified them, she kept to a carefully circumscribed territory
in order to restore her coworkers regard for her. Her
boundless interest and enthusiasm, previously characterized by being the first
to volunteer to tackle the thorniest problem, now slid precipitously.
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She became aloof and distant. After all the problems I
created by being a standout, I decided that the best
way to get along was to go along and just
joylessly grind my way through the day like everyone else.
It seemed to be the only way that I could
make working there bearable. Everyone else seemed pleased about my
so called change, but I was miserable. A few months
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before Anne first came to see me, I walked into
my office one afternoon and was startled to find a
man standing at the window, tugging at one of the
slots in the mini blinds and peering out in the street.
He turned around and saw me. Then he took a
couple of steps towards me, muttered, how you doing, Doc,
and stopped to the bookcase lining one wall. He pulled
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a book off the shelf and started leaping through it.
You must be John, I said, as evenly as I could.
My clients usually wake in the reception area. Well, I
saw that other woman come out, so I came on in.
You don't mind, do you? There was little to suggest
that John was asking a question. John soon put back
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the book and took down a few others, smiling ruefully
and shaking his head. After examining a couple of their titles,
eventually I came to understand that John was very nearly
incapable of keeping still for longer than a few minutes
at a time. In this instance, the classic stereotype of
the patient lying on the couch was laughable. John was
the epitome of the restless parapatetic at home and at
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the office. Early on, John described how he perceived others.
It's like the rest of the world is moving along
in twenty four frames per second, normal, don'ts be? But
to me, that's slow motion. Even when somebody's talking during
a meeting, I swear I look at their mouths and
it's like I'm advancing the tape frame by frame on
my BCR. So, okay, film and videotape are two very
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different things. So maybe that's not the best example, but
maybe it's more like the world's of blender on stir
and I'm on liquify. John's self editing and criticism aside.
His description is at it. To someone like John, the
rest of the world does seem as if it's lagging behind,
from people walking too slowly on sidewalks and those counting
out exact change in a supermarket checkout line to how
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there's arriving at a solution that seemed obvious to John minutes, days,
or sometimes weeks before. Everyone else always seemed to be
moving at a glacial pace. A true multitasker, John used
to upset everyone at meetings because he could monitor the
flow of the conversation, read a report, scan the agenda
for the next item of discussion, then jump ahead for
interject at seemingly inappropriate moments. I'm sick of being told
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to slow down. If I'm on an express treat and
they're on a local, why don't they which train? Then
get onto mind. It's time for them to be responsible
for catching up to me. Unfortunately for John, what others
perceived as his uncooperative attitude eventually caught up with him.
While he hadn't been fired from his job as a
creative director at an advertising agency, he'd been essentially stripped
of all authority. He'd been asked to stay on in
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the consulting capacity, but was given little real work to do.
John clearly sensed what was about to happen to him,
but that only made him dig in his heels more
deeply on some issues and veer recklessly from one more
outlandish idea to the next, wielding his considerable wit like
a saber. He'd gone from being a visionary renaissance man
of the company to persona Nograda in a matter of months.
It wouldn't bother me so much. But before I came along,
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most of them thought that HTML was what you saw
when some of the letters burned out in a Neon
motel signed. I got us a jump stock into web advertising,
and now everyone is reaping the benefits and claiming they
were the masterminds behind the whole thing. It's like working
with a bunch of al Gore's claiming they were the
ones who helped develop the Worldwide Web. Of course, everybody
knows that Dan Quail was the one who invented the
spell checker. Giftedness denied. While John and Anne couldn't have
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been more different in certain respects, they do have much
in coment. They are both gifted at alls, standing poised
at a crossroads, and they both initially recoiled in my
suggestion that they were gifted. Like John and Anne, when
many of us hear the word gifted, we almost always
think two things. One only school children are gifted, and two,
since I'm not a child, I can't be gifted. These
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automatic responses are understandable given what most of us have
been told about right people, But most of what we
have been told is radically incorrect and enormously incomplete. Most
of us think we know what giftedness is, but we're
unable to describe it or define it accurately. Part of
the reason for that is that we live in a
culture that emphasizes products over process. We can see what
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gifted people produce, but we can't see the internal systems
and operations that produced those products. In the previous sentence,
even I had to resort to using words more suited
to something manufactured mechanically than to how the brain really functions.
While most people in a same society would accept the
definition that giftedness is as giftedness does, it is not
adequate for the purposes of this book. Most definitions of
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giftedness include these components. Initially having and using natural abilities
without the benefit of formal training, rapid learning, creative and
productive thinking, high academic achievement, superior proficiency in one or
more domains, for example, mathematics, performing arts, leadership. As you
can see, the emphasis is on the cognitive components of giftedness.
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While the cognitive components are certainly important to consider in
discussing giftedness, too often there is a piece missing. Giftedness
is not merely as giftedness does or as giftedness thinks. Instead,
giftedness is as it thinks as well as feels, senses, perceives,
and does. The Gifted Adult explores the psychology and personality
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of gifted adults, the most underidentified group of potential achievers
in our society. Regrettably, too often in our society, those
who would most readily be identified as smart are most
at odds with making their intelligence work for them. Quite
often it works against gifted adults, preventing them from producing
the kind of products that traditionally are the markers of giftedness.
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One possible explanation for this discrepancy is that we place
a great deal of emphasis on educating gifted children. We
understand that gifted children operate differently from those in the mainstream.
As a result, we try to accommodate these differences among
children by providing them with special programs and enrichment activities. However,
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even in the best school districts, these programs are often
inadequate and make the fundamental mistake of using only standard
measures such as IQ as a basis or admission. Programs
for the talented and gifted are a relatively recent phenomenon.
As a mother of three very different gifted children, as
a former educator and advocate for gifted education, can test
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to the benefits and deficits of these programs. However, despite
the varying quality of such programs and their methods of
identifying students, they stand head and shoulders above earlier efforts
to educate gifted children, since specialized programs simply did not exist.
From first hand experience, I know that many gifted programs
consisted primarily of removing the smart kids from the classroom
and giving them busy work or enlisting their aid as
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tutors for the slow kids. If we accept the notion
that some children are gifted, then we have to account
for what happens to these children when they grow up.
After all, It's not as though these former children that
sluff off their giftedness like discarded skin at the age
of sixteen or eighteen or twenty one. Gifted children do
grow up and they become gifted adults. It seems like
an obvious comment to make, yet little is written about
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giftedness and how it applies to adults. So instead of
asking if gifted adults exist, we might be better served
by asking questions like the following. How many gifted adults
are there? What are they doing with their lives? What
do we know about how they function in society? What
do they have to do to be successful and fully
use their abilities? These are all important questions, and it
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is this initial line of inquiry that led me to
more fully investigate the concept of giftedness as it applies
to adults. Interestingly enough, my answer to the first question
about the number of gifted adults in this country demands
that we radically revise our thinking about the very nature
of giftedness. Today, there are at least twenty million Americans
who would be classified as gifted adults. That number dwarfs
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the estimated three million gifted children in our schools. So
where do these gifted adults come from. They can be
found in every age bracket, culture, gender, and socioeconomic stratam
across the nation. They are many of us. Given these statistics,
quite a number of people you know are gifted adults,
and perhaps even you are a member of this not
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so exclusive group. Despite our John and Anne like claims
to the contrary, it is not the proverbial others who
are truly gifted. We who are what I term the
everyday geniuses in our society. Imprize a group that together
would be equal to the size of the entire population
of New York State. So called Baby Boomers comprise the
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largest portion of the unidentified gifted adult population. The Baby
Boom was a sharp rise in the birth rate that
began after World War II and lasted for nearly twenty years.
Using the crudest of statistical analyzes, it is clear that
with more children being born, the greater the number of
potentially gifted children there would be in that boom. Since
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there were no programs to accommodate their needs, many of
these youngsters spent their formative years adrift, a great number
of them choosing to swim against the tide of societal expectation. Furthermore,
when you consider that the bulk of the baby boomer
generation is presently moving into or has already moved into midlife,
the time at which many of these identity issues resurface,
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you can understand why I felt so compelled to write
this book. Since nineteen ninety one, when I began specializing
in counseling gifted adults, I have become increasingly aware that
a kind of cascade effect has been created by this
group's collective discontent. While we are no longer taking over
administration buildings or taking to the streets in protest, we
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are experiencing a similar kind of discomfort with maintaining our
individual and collective status quo. For many of us, life
has become a kind of dance to avoid the vaguely
deja vus like feelings from early adulthood that kept tangling
our feet and sent us tripping along widely varied paths
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the gifted adopt. Like Anne and John, the individuals who
come into my office have a vague awareness that the
root of their problems is far deeper than surface symptoms.
They realize they are intense, complex and driven, but they
have been taught that their strong personalities are perceived as excessive,
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too different from the norm, and consequently wrong. In a
culture that often equates different with wrong, it's inevitable that
gifted adults point a critical finger toward themselves as the
source of their discontent. Why can't I just be like
everybody else? Shouldn't I have outgrown this kind of identity
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crisis by now? Why can't I shape this nagging sense
of urgency? Will I ever feel satisfied? What's wrong with me?
When I hear my clients say these things to me,
what immediately becomes obvious is that they are in dire
need of accurate information about themselves. Frequently, the very traits
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that make an adult gifted are the same traits that
society demands they suppress. This is a book about normalizing giftedness.
My purpose is to show gifted adults how they can
bring their gift to fruition by fully expressing the very
qualities that are the foundation of their per personality, the
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source of giftedness. Not surprisingly, in order to more fully
understand adult giftedness, we need to turn our attention back
to children. One fundamental reason why many researchers use children
as their subjects in studies of giftedness is that children
have not been exposed to as many environmental factors as
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adolescents or adults. Consequently, researchers can see the nature side
of the nature nurtured debate in a more pristine state.
What studies have shown is that gifted children perceive the
world in fundamentally different ways than other children. It is
as if their sensory apparatus is more finely tuned to
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detect input that others either filter out or ignore. This
heightened receptivity is present from the earliest stages of development
and later gives rise to the urge to perfect. Because
give to children perceive in ways that are different in
kind and degree than others. Their heightened receptivity makes them
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hot receptors, capable of automatically detecting even the slightest change
in their external environment. They also possess an innate sense
of how things should be and not just how they are.
In other words, they have an innate urge to perfect.
We often see these two traits displayed in children who
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aren't satisfied with things until they are just so. I
call these two underlying components of giftedness heightened receptivity and
the urge to perfect first nature traits. We often talk
about how things become second nature to us over a
period of time. In this case, the gifted don't experience
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any real adjustment period. They are hardwired from the very
start with these two traits. For that reason, first nature
is a convenient shorthand to describe them. It is the
first nature traits that give rise to the intensity, complexity,
and drive that are the more visible characteristics of giftedness.
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The only way to manifest What is the norm for
someone with such a highly sensitive sensory apparatus and vision
of how things ought to be in a world that
seems radically out of sync? Think of John's colleagues slow
motion mouths is to be intense, complex, and driven. As
Abraham Maslow pointed out, we are all driven by the
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urge to meet our needs. What if one of our
most fundamental needs is to have things be just so?
What do we do if our precise sense of proportion
sets off an alarm in our heads when the figures
we've drawn are slightly skewed. We still assess and start
over again and again until we get it right. And
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we don't do this so much by choice, but because
of a mandate from somewhere both inside and outside of ourselves.
Unless you've experienced this urge to perfect and are a
hot receptor yourself, it is difficult to make clear how
fundamentally a part of a gifted person's core personality these
first nature traits are and how much they affect their
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overall development. One way to think about first nature traits
is to compare them to hand preference. Unless we've suffered
some accident that has rendered our dominant hand useless, we
don't much think about the subject. Yet, like the first
nature of the gifted, our handedness has a major influence
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on how we negotiate our way in the world. And
like those well intentioned teachers and family members who once
forced left handers to abandon the use of the naturally
dominant hand, gifted adults often experience the same kind of treatment.
Most gifted people are not able to articulate that it
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is their first nature that makes them extraordinarily aware, compels
them to make things just so, or makes them so
dissatisfied when things are not that way. Consequently, when these
underlying formative personality traits express themselves, other people not only
usually misinterpret the message, but may sometimes fantasize about getting
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rid of the messenger as well. Like so many aspects
of human misbehavior, we have to separate the act from
the actor. In John's and Ann's cases, they weren't acting badly.
They were enacting a fundamental aspect of their personality. I
hope to provide a bridge between the society's expectations of
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how we ought to behave and the gifted personality, so
that we can understand that it is the desire of
the gifted person to live authentically and not suppress the
first natured traits that produce what some consider aberrant behavior.
In fact, I would agree that Ann's and John's behaviors
were somewhat aberate. However, it is more important for us
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to understand that they were behaving adberently in terms of
their own first nature, rather than acknowledge their supposed transgressions
against society's norms. In the course of working with gifted
adults over the years, I've discovered that they've learned that
they can't express their first nature traits without censure. As
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a result, they modify their behavior in one of two ways,
by either collapsing it or exaggerating it. Let's take a
closer look at John and Ann to see how they
are the perfect examples of this forced accommodation that gifted
adults make and the ways in which intensity, complexity and
drive function. On one hand, Ann's experiences and reactions typify
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the collapsed response when one's intensity, complexity and drive are challenged.
She lowered her standards to conform and began to distrust
herself and her intuition. Over the years, she developed the
habit of being too trusting and was too easily wounded.
As a result. She had always been consumed by the
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projects she undertook, and when she wasn't rewarded in proportion
to her efforts, she became indifferent, adopting a fatalistic view
of her mistakes. On the other hand, John is the
perfect example of exaggerated intensity, complexity and drive. His high
energy posed a threat to others when he dominated conversations,
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used words as weapons, and posed potentially embarrassing questions. John
was as raw and over stimulated as they come, a
provocateur who openly defied authority and ducked responsibility for his choices.
In addition to the umbrella traits of intensity, complexity, and drive,
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and John and other gifted adult of a pension for
what I call complex thinking, as well as sensory and
emotional sensitivity, deep empathy, excitability, perceptivity, and goal oriented motivation.
The concept of giftedness expanded. Since I have worked with
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a wide range of gifted individuals in a variety of senatives,
I have dared to take the risk of offering this
new platform for the discussion of adult giftedness. After counseling
hundreds of gifted people, I was increasingly alarmed to see
how confused they are by their unexplained inner conflicts, which
only grow stronger over the years. Although most of them
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appear to be navigating life with considerable success, the inner
story is one of lost identity. Repeatedly I have been
struck by their lack of freedom to express themselves and
to fulfill their potential, And on a much large I
am dismayed by the precious commodity our society loses when
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our most creative people are overwrought with self doubt and
self sabotage. More important, no one has offered a suitable
roadmap for how gifted adults may live out the promise
of their high potential, fit in and have successful relationships,
and manage themselves so that their traits are truly assets
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instead of liabilities. This means that how we conceptualize giftedness
has to be expanded to include two concepts, every day
genius and evolutionary intelligence. These two concepts fundamentally alter our
conception of giftedness and offer a new paradigm, which is
a risky venture. I owe a debt of gratitude to
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others in the field upon whose work I have built,
such as Lee Anne Bell, Mihali Chiksent, Mihali Casimirez, Thebrovsky,
Howard Gardner, Lida Hollingmore, Karl Gustavjong, Lawrence Colbert, Deirdre Lovaki,
Alice Miller, Michael Pihofsky, Jane Pierto, Joseph Nzuli, Mary Robemoora,
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Anne Marie Roper, Martin Seligman, Linda Krieger Silverman, Robert Sternberg,
and James T. Webb. I hope that what I present
in this book will serve as a catalyst to others,
so that we can be certain that one of our
most valuable resources, the everyday geniuses in our midst are
free to fully contribute to our collective advancement. For the
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past twenty years, Howard Gardner has been doing groundbreaking research
into intelligence. His work at Harvard University on Project Zero
has fundamentally changed the way in which many approach the
study of intelligence. His theory of multiple intelligences suggests that,
rather than being a single, discreet entity, intelligence is composed
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of various domains. The eight areas or types of intelligence
that he identifies are linguistic, logical, mathematical, spatial, musical, kinesthetic, interpersonal, intrapersonal,
and naturalist. His work has led us away from seeking
answers to the question of how smart someone is and
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toward a consideration of the ways in which someone is smart.
Everyone possesses each of the eight components of multiple intelligence
to some degree. However, as we know, not everyone is
as intense, complex and driven as the gifted adult. Although
everyone exhibits multiple intelligences, fewer people also have the first
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nature traits and the array of gifted characteristics that exist
under the umbrella of intensity, complexity and drive ICD. Those
people who possess this combination of multiple intelligence and gifted
characteristics are additionally described as gifted. I believe that another
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group of eminently gifted people exists in our society. I
call them every day geniuses. What separates the everyday genius
from the gifted A don't is that everyday geniuses possess
an additional set of tools the potential for advanced development.
Advanced development consists of a humanistic vision, a mandated mission,
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and revolutionary action. The gifted adults that I work with
generally have made some progress in their advanced development. Whatever
the reason, their progress has been sporadic, whether it's the
push pull of wanting to fit in or the exaggerated
or collapsed expression of one part of the first nature,
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They've been proceeding haphazardly. Their movement has been tentative, mostly
because they have yet to recognize and accept that they
are gifted adults. It is only when that first step
is complete that they can then take the subsequent steps
toward advanced development. Still, fewer people have been able to
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liberate and integrate their gifts to perform revolutionary acts that,
in large or small ways, change the world. I call
this group of people evolutionaries because not only do they
possess the complex of gifted traits that the everyday genius possesses,
including their hardwired first nature, their multiple intelligences, and their ICD,
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but they have embraced the call of advanced development that
results in evolutionary intelligence EVI. These individuals have learned to
employ their multiple intelligences and gifted traits catalyzed by their
advanced development traits to actualize their gifts in service of
their mandated mission in the real world. By actualizing these
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gifts in the service of self and others, these evolutionaries
are destined to push progress forward. My main goal, then,
is to expand the area of overlap, ideally to the
point where we have concentric circles where everyone with multiple
intelligences who also has gifted traits can manage his or
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her intensity, complexity, and drive and employ them in service
of his or her humanistic vision and mandated mission through
revolutionary action. It's an ambitious goal, but can we expect
any less of ourselves when our urge to perfect helps
define our existence. The first step toward expanding this group
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of people who possess evolutionary intelligence is identifying those who
have gifted traits. One of my prime motivations for writing
this book is the fact that there are so many
every day geniuses in the world who are undervalued and underutilized.
These people are a vital national resource, as potentially powerful
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and existence altering as any new energy source, medical discovery,
or microchip. Not to tap this vital resource and put
it to its best use is unproductive and unhealthy for
the individual and the society. To demystify giftedness, we have
to deconstruct it. We have to break it down into
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its component parts, and then examine how each of these
parts assembled in different combinations in every individual forms of
personality that is capable, when truly liberated, of transforming the world.
Beyond that, I've created a model for looking at the
core personality traits of the gifted adult that gives us
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a way to understand and manage these traits in the
real world. It is both theoretical and practical. For too long,
the most ardent desire of many of my patients has
been to find out what's wrong with them and fix it.
The guiding philosophy of my practice and the theme of
this book, is that every individual should find out what's
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right with him for her and manage it. Imagine, if
you will, that reading had come very naturally to you
as a young child, and no one ever had to
teach you how to read. Neither you nor any one
else could explain how this happened, but it did later
over a period of years, both at school and at home,
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others intervened and mistaught you that the correct way to
read was to hold the book or other text upside down.
When reading, not only did you have to read from
right to left instead of left to right, but recognizing
individual letters became a tedious and frustrating exercise. To add
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to your frustration, everyone else around you in school seemed
to manage just fine. Since you were having reading difficulties,
your grades suffered, and your self image plummeted. You heard
a nearly constant chorus of what's wrong with you? Whenever
you tried to explain that there was a better or
easier way to do it, you received that slow, sad
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wag of the head that told you that you were
indeed the sorriest of cases. You started to wonder, what's
wrong with me? And why can't I get this right?
In a very real sense, this example illustrates what many
of my gifted clients experience, and without fail, my response
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to their self criticism is what if what's wrong with
you is actually what's right. One purpose of this book
is to turn upside down, or better yet, to return
to right side up. Many of the concer that gifted
adults hold about themselves. Very often, Reading ourselves is the
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most crucial reading we will ever do. To feel like
an outsider, To constantly pressure yourself to hold back your
gifts in order to fit in or avoid disapproval. To
erroneously believe that you are overly sensitive, compulsively perfectionistic, and
blindly driven to live without knowing the basic truths about
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the core of your being. Too often, this is the
life of everyday geniuses who have been kept in the
dark about who they are and misinformed about their differences.
No one ever took them aside and explained, of course
you're different. You're intense, complex and driven because you're gifted.
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No one told them they cannot escape the fact that
they will always be quantitatively, qualitatively, and motivationally different from
most other people. Nor do they know that these very
same things that are the basis of criticism are fundamental
building blocks of excellence and advanced development. Is it any wonder, then, that,
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when faced with a choice of whether or not to
accept that they are gifted. Many of them initially reject
the label or demand tangible proof of their giftedness. Because
so many of my clients demand concrete evidence and prefer
numbers over an intuitive sense that an idea feels right,
I've devised the Evolutionary Intelligence Profile as a means to
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identify the potential for evolutionary intelligence in each of us.
This two hundred and forty item questionnaire is the first
practical tool for measuring evolutionary intelligence. It identifies the dynamic
and complex interaction between the urge to perfect and heightened
receptivity by measuring multiple intelligence is gifted traits, intensity, complexity,
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and drive and advance development. This in depth personality type
profile is reminiscent of the Meyers Briggs type indicator and
the eneaogram and allows you to rate your level of
evolutionary intelligence. The Evolutionary Intelligence Profile was the first tool
that I used to really make a difference in Anne's
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and John's lives. Once I had concrete evidence to support
my contention that they were indeed gifted, we could move
on to the next stages in their personal evolution. Whether
you or someone close to you may be an unidentified
gifted adult, you have gifted children, or you work with
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gifted people. Nothing will work very well for you until
you know the truth and what to do with it.
What you will learn in this book is based on
the five facets of Freedom, the five essential steps to
the liberation of everyday genius. Like Anne and John, all
unidentified gifted adults are diamonds in the rough and merely
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need a nudge to send them on their way to
mastering and applying their exceptional gifts. Each facet of freedom
is a critical phase in the refinement of the gifted adult,
and none can be overlooked if the desired outcome is
self actualization, the brilliant, multifaceted diamond of human potential. The
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five facets of freedom identify thyself, understand thyself, reveal and
heal thyself, manage thyself, liberate thyself, Identify thyself. The first
facet of freedom is the most important because it takes
us out of the dark about the gifted personality, so
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we can clearly see who and what we are and
are not that like the ugly dock claim, we were
born swans, not ducks. A giftedness checklist offers a quick
way to identify basic everyday genius characteristics that are widely misunderstood.
This allows us a new way of thinking about our traits.
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We get a glimpse of how the psychology and personality
of everyday genius is far more important than creative products
or history as a prodigy. The individual and collective importance
of this factor is explained, as well as how the
swan of everyday genius gets lost in the duckyard and
the high price of remaining lost over the years. Understand thyself,
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the second facet of freedom, allows us to move beyond
outdated IQ and other misleading notions about intelligence that keep
our abilities under wraps. We see ourselves in the faces
of the everyday geniuses next door. As we separate the
truth from indoctrinated untruths, we begin to learn how different
becomes wrong in our society and discover ways to normal
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our experience so that we no longer feel odd like
a minority of one. At this point, we are ready
to take an essential leap that links intelligence with evolution.
You will learn detailed information about your multiple abilities, gifted traits,
and advanced development by rating yourself on the EVEI profile.
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The EDI profile measures evolutionary intelligence and offers a new,
more comprehensive look at how intelligence fits the everyday genius's
purpose and design. Within the inventory, you will begin to
see how Gardner's multiple intelligences and gifted traits, combined with
the markers of events development, complement your unique first nature
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and can liberate your everyday genius into fully realized evolutionary intelligence.
Reveal and heal myself, the third facet of freedom looks
at liberation's real enemy fitting in. Looking back at the
EVII profile, we see more clearly how our gifted personality, traits,
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and behaviors come under the influence of our intensity, complexity,
and drive. What we have learned compels us to redefine
our differences, recognizing them no longer as liabilities, but as
true assets and the foundation of creative excellence. We also
explore how our self image has been distorted by the
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ten criticisms, the ten most common complaints that others have
leveled against us. By deconstructing and confronting these criticisms, we
can learn to see through these distortions and start to
respond with new insight and self confidence. We begin to
reveal our true selves by meeting the false self who
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often dominated our personalities during our developmental years to protect
us from disapproval and rejection. We begin to realize that
the false self has outlived its usefulness and is now
an obstacle with a destructive agenda. With the help of
guided reflection, we learn how being misinterpreted wounded us and
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how we in turn punished ourselves for our differences. We
learn to face and heal old wounds in order to
move forward. Recognizing the difference between the false self and
the true self prepares us for a reckoning. Seeing and
acknowledging how gifted assets can get out of control and
become liabilities is possibly the most significant step in the
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quest to complete healing. Consequently, we must deal with the
shadow side of giftedness, our false self reactions to people
and situations when our primary wounds are reopened, or when
our unmanaged assets turn against us in the form of
disorderly conduct. The fourth facet of freedom manage thyself, starts
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with learning to regulate the flow of everyday genius energy,
especially intensity, complexity, and drive. As we embrace our ICD differences,
we gain strength from knowing what it means to be
quantitatively qualitatively and motivationally different. We learn how to redirect
self defeating misuses of energy and avoid unintentional abuse of
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our gigs. By developing new coping strategies to replace outmoded defenses,
and by establishing balanced plants, we make great strides to
take charge of ourselves and our lives, which means we
can be less reactive and more prudently responsible. By learning
to manage our icd in our relationships, we can discover
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new ways of interacting that allow us to be both
individually free and intimately connected. The fifth and final facet
of freedom, liberate thyself is the end of the beginning,
the place where everyday genius traits and skills and vision
are finally into This is when we revisit our evolutionary
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intelligence and formulate a plan for the constructive enactment of
advanced development. The full potential of deliberated everyday genius gift
is delivered for the betterment of the world in the
form of fully realized evolutionary intelligence. Here is where we
finally accept that there has always been a fundamental reason
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for our particular way of thinking, perceiving, and feeling. We
recognize from where our power and insight actually originate, and
how to cooperate with our soul's destiny. In support of
our collective evolution, Passion, wisdom, and motivation are consciously mastered
and regulated so that the full force of high potential
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can be put to good use. Self liberation is more
than simply getting comfortable with being different, and more than
developing expertise or even becoming successful. By understanding the evolutionary moment,
the life altering or subtle turning points that aim us
toward our life purpose, we learn to accept the real
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life process of self actualization and even find comfort in
the dark nights of the soul that are necessary turning
points in our lives. Many gifted adults active in my
workshops saying being gifted would have been great, but it's
too late.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
For all that now.
Speaker 9 (01:05:25):
I didn't start soon enough or in the right direction.
Yet it is never as late as we think. Excellence
emerges only over time because advanced development is rooted in
the process of integration. The path to fulfillment is one
of pressures and evolutionary moments that disturb and shape us.
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None of us knows exactly when our abilities and life
experience and opportunities will gell giftedness is like an ember.
It may turn cold and dim on the outside, but
its radiance is always there, awaiting the spark of renewal.
Everyday geniuses spend the first part of their lives trying
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to be who they are and meeting with disapproval. The
second part is spent pretending to be someone they are
not in order to fit in, and if they're determined
and lucky, they can spend the third part chipping away
at the rock of that created false self and moving
closer to being the authentic individuals they were uniquely destined
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to be. At this time in our evolution, when human
beings are the major agent of change on our planet,
we cannot afford to repress those who have the capacity
to create a better world. The problems we face today
cannot be resolved using yesterday's ways of thinking. Those in
every corner of the globe who possess the wisdom and
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the integrity to take revolutionary action are already too few
in number. This is the challenge for the everyday genius
who bears, along with the gift of exceptional ability, the
responsibility to create a better tomorrow. It is my hope
that this work will offer the next step in personal
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evolution for gifted adults and for those who know love
and work with them and guide them toward the liberation
of their destinies. In a society that often favors individuality
over the collective good. Every day geniuses have labored far
too long under the false assumption that they must go
it alone. This book is meant to reassure and challenge
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everyday geniuses are not alone, and they must move forward
to undertake their great task and earn its many rewards.
Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
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Speaker 7 (01:08:05):
To brand.
Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
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Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Myself. That not so bad, So.
Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
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Speaker 13 (01:08:37):
Plain, But well, bretly think the time.
Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Not to love it.
Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
I'm gonna take to be a better person by shtop and.
Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
I go in wis and myself.
Speaker 6 (01:09:05):
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Speaker 9 (01:09:41):
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Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
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Speaker 11 (01:09:48):
As a fad about the building, a bailion.
Speaker 8 (01:09:54):
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Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
The same time, in the same.
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One beyond giftedness? Every day genius to find no bird
soars too high if he soars with his own wings,
Friedrich Neetsche. To look at her, you would never suspect
that Anne was in the middle the crisis. She sat
in my office, composed and resplendent in a black Tahari suit.
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The only sign of any agitation was her habit of
coiling and uncoiling her index finger around her stranded pearls.
She had much younger than forty three as my client
now for nearly four months. She at first had been
at a loss to explain rationally what brought No one
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ever expects a midlife crisis, Doctor Jacobson, I certainly didn't
were the first words that Anne spoke to me. At
one point in her legal career, Anne had been a dynamo,
working on a team that won a major case involving
suspected violations of interstate commerce laws in the dairy industry.
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The lead attorney acknowledged that it was her dogged efforts
that helped dismantle the government's case, and seemed destined to
make partner before she was thirty five, and was guaranteed
to pick up the firm's highest profile and potentially most
lucrative cases. Success hadn't come without a price. Those who
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were passed over for promotion in favor of Anne attributed
her meteoric rise to favoritism and not her razor sharp
analytical skills, her amazing intuition, and her twenty six hour workdays.
Once lauded as the consummate most valuable player, and was
eventually plagued on not so quiet whispers about her chameleon
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like ability to transform herself into whommeever each partner wanted
her to be. Suddenly, the qualities that had once been
her most valuable assets felt like her greatest liabilities. Always
someone who took every criticism to heart, Anne stopped trusting
her intuition and her allies. Rather than ranging far and
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wide to offer colleagues's health, anticipating their problems before they
even identified them, she kept to a carefully circumscribed territory
in order to restore her coworkers regard for her. Her
boundless interest and enthusiasm, previously characterized by being the first
to volunteer to tackle the thorniest problem, now slid precipitously.
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She became aloof and distant. After all the problems I
created by being a standout, I decided that the best
way to get along was to go along and just
joylessly grind my way through the day like everyone else.
It seemed to be the only way that I could
make working there bearable. Everyone else seemed pleased about my
so called change, but I was miserable. A few months
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before Anne first came to see me, I walked into
my office one afternoon and was startled to find a
man standing at the window, tugging at one of the
slots in the mini blinds and peering out in the street.
He turned around and saw me. Then he took a
couple of steps towards me, muttered, how you doing, Doc,
and stopped to the bookcase lining one wall. He pulled
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a book off the shelf and started leaping through it.
You must be John, I said, as evenly as I could.
My clients usually wake in the reception area. Well, I
saw that other woman come out, so I came on in.
You don't mind, do you? There was little to suggest
that John was asking a question. John soon put back
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the book and took down a few others, smiling ruefully
and shaking his head. After examining a couple of their titles,
eventually I came to understand that John was very nearly
incapable of keeping still for longer than a few minutes
at a time. In this instance, the classic stereotype of
the patient lying on the couch was laughable. John was
the epitome of the restless parapatetic at home and at
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the office. Early on, John described how he perceived others.
It's like the rest of the world is moving along
in twenty four frames per second, normal, don'ts be? But
to me, that's slow motion. Even when somebody's talking during
a meeting, I swear I look at their mouths and
it's like I'm advancing the tape frame by frame on
my BCR. So, okay, film and videotape are two very
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different things. So maybe that's not the best example, but
maybe it's more like the world's of blender on stir
and I'm on liquify. John's self editing and criticism aside.
His description is at it. To someone like John, the
rest of the world does seem as if it's lagging behind,
from people walking too slowly on sidewalks and those counting
out exact change in a supermarket checkout line to how
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there's arriving at a solution that seemed obvious to John minutes, days,
or sometimes weeks before. Everyone else always seemed to be
moving at a glacial pace. A true multitasker, John used
to upset everyone at meetings because he could monitor the
flow of the conversation, read a report, scan the agenda
for the next item of discussion, then jump ahead for
interject at seemingly inappropriate moments. I'm sick of being told
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to slow down. If I'm on an express treat and
they're on a local, why don't they which train? Then
get onto mind. It's time for them to be responsible
for catching up to me. Unfortunately for John, what others
perceived as his uncooperative attitude eventually caught up with him.
While he hadn't been fired from his job as a
creative director at an advertising agency, he'd been essentially stripped
of all authority. He'd been asked to stay on in
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the consulting capacity, but was given little real work to do.
John clearly sensed what was about to happen to him,
but that only made him dig in his heels more
deeply on some issues and veer recklessly from one more
outlandish idea to the next, wielding his considerable wit like
a saber. He'd gone from being a visionary renaissance man
of the company to persona Nograda in a matter of months.
It wouldn't bother me so much. But before I came along,
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most of them thought that HTML was what you saw
when some of the letters burned out in a Neon
motel signed. I got us a jump stock into web advertising,
and now everyone is reaping the benefits and claiming they
were the masterminds behind the whole thing. It's like working
with a bunch of al Gore's claiming they were the
ones who helped develop the Worldwide Web. Of course, everybody
knows that Dan Quail was the one who invented the
spell checker. Giftedness denied. While John and Anne couldn't have
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been more different in certain respects, they do have much
in coment. They are both gifted at alls, standing poised
at a crossroads, and they both initially recoiled in my
suggestion that they were gifted. Like John and Anne, when
many of us hear the word gifted, we almost always
think two things. One only school children are gifted, and two,
since I'm not a child, I can't be gifted. These
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automatic responses are understandable given what most of us have
been told about right people, But most of what we
have been told is radically incorrect and enormously incomplete. Most
of us think we know what giftedness is, but we're
unable to describe it or define it accurately. Part of
the reason for that is that we live in a
culture that emphasizes products over process. We can see what
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gifted people produce, but we can't see the internal systems
and operations that produced those products. In the previous sentence,
even I had to resort to using words more suited
to something manufactured mechanically than to how the brain really functions.
While most people in a same society would accept the
definition that giftedness is as giftedness does, it is not
adequate for the purposes of this book. Most definitions of
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giftedness include these components. Initially having and using natural abilities
without the benefit of formal training, rapid learning, creative and
productive thinking, high academic achievement, superior proficiency in one or
more domains, for example, mathematics, performing arts, leadership. As you
can see, the emphasis is on the cognitive components of giftedness.
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While the cognitive components are certainly important to consider in
discussing giftedness, too often there is a piece missing. Giftedness
is not merely as giftedness does or as giftedness thinks. Instead,
giftedness is as it thinks as well as feels, senses, perceives,
and does. The Gifted Adult explores the psychology and personality
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of gifted adults, the most underidentified group of potential achievers
in our society. Regrettably, too often in our society, those
who would most readily be identified as smart are most
at odds with making their intelligence work for them. Quite
often it works against gifted adults, preventing them from producing
the kind of products that traditionally are the markers of giftedness.
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One possible explanation for this discrepancy is that we place
a great deal of emphasis on educating gifted children. We
understand that gifted children operate differently from those in the mainstream.
As a result, we try to accommodate these differences among
children by providing them with special programs and enrichment activities. However,
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even in the best school districts, these programs are often
inadequate and make the fundamental mistake of using only standard
measures such as IQ as a basis or admission. Programs
for the talented and gifted are a relatively recent phenomenon.
As a mother of three very different gifted children, as
a former educator and advocate for gifted education, can test
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to the benefits and deficits of these programs. However, despite
the varying quality of such programs and their methods of
identifying students, they stand head and shoulders above earlier efforts
to educate gifted children, since specialized programs simply did not exist.
From first hand experience, I know that many gifted programs
consisted primarily of removing the smart kids from the classroom
and giving them busy work or enlisting their aid as
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tutors for the slow kids. If we accept the notion
that some children are gifted, then we have to account
for what happens to these children when they grow up.
After all, It's not as though these former children that
sluff off their giftedness like discarded skin at the age
of sixteen or eighteen or twenty one. Gifted children do
grow up and they become gifted adults. It seems like
an obvious comment to make, yet little is written about
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giftedness and how it applies to adults. So instead of
asking if gifted adults exist, we might be better served
by asking questions like the following. How many gifted adults
are there? What are they doing with their lives? What
do we know about how they function in society? What
do they have to do to be successful and fully
use their abilities? These are all important questions, and it
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is this initial line of inquiry that led me to
more fully investigate the concept of giftedness as it applies
to adults. Interestingly enough, my answer to the first question
about the number of gifted adults in this country demands
that we radically revise our thinking about the very nature
of giftedness. Today, there are at least twenty million Americans
who would be classified as gifted adults. That number dwarfs
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the estimated three million gifted children in our schools. So
where do these gifted adults come from. They can be
found in every age bracket, culture, gender, and socioeconomic stratam
across the nation. They are many of us. Given these statistics,
quite a number of people you know are gifted adults,
and perhaps even you are a member of this not
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so exclusive group. Despite our John and Anne like claims
to the contrary, it is not the proverbial others who
are truly gifted. We who are what I term the
everyday geniuses in our society. Imprize a group that together
would be equal to the size of the entire population
of New York State. So called Baby Boomers comprise the
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largest portion of the unidentified gifted adult population. The Baby
Boom was a sharp rise in the birth rate that
began after World War II and lasted for nearly twenty years.
Using the crudest of statistical analyzes, it is clear that
with more children being born, the greater the number of
potentially gifted children there would be in that boom. Since
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there were no programs to accommodate their needs, many of
these youngsters spent their formative years adrift, a great number
of them choosing to swim against the tide of societal expectation. Furthermore,
when you consider that the bulk of the baby boomer
generation is presently moving into or has already moved into midlife,
the time at which many of these identity issues resurface,
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you can understand why I felt so compelled to write
this book. Since nineteen ninety one, when I began specializing
in counseling gifted adults, I have become increasingly aware that
a kind of cascade effect has been created by this
group's collective discontent. While we are no longer taking over
administration buildings or taking to the streets in protest, we
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are experiencing a similar kind of discomfort with maintaining our
individual and collective status quo. For many of us, life
has become a kind of dance to avoid the vaguely
deja vus like feelings from early adulthood that kept tangling
our feet and sent us tripping along widely varied paths
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the gifted adopt. Like Anne and John, the individuals who
come into my office have a vague awareness that the
root of their problems is far deeper than surface symptoms.
They realize they are intense, complex and driven, but they
have been taught that their strong personalities are perceived as excessive,
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too different from the norm, and consequently wrong. In a
culture that often equates different with wrong, it's inevitable that
gifted adults point a critical finger toward themselves as the
source of their discontent. Why can't I just be like
everybody else? Shouldn't I have outgrown this kind of identity
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crisis by now? Why can't I shape this nagging sense
of urgency? Will I ever feel satisfied? What's wrong with me?
When I hear my clients say these things to me,
what immediately becomes obvious is that they are in dire
need of accurate information about themselves. Frequently, the very traits
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that make an adult gifted are the same traits that
society demands they suppress. This is a book about normalizing giftedness.
My purpose is to show gifted adults how they can
bring their gift to fruition by fully expressing the very
qualities that are the foundation of their per personality, the
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source of giftedness. Not surprisingly, in order to more fully
understand adult giftedness, we need to turn our attention back
to children. One fundamental reason why many researchers use children
as their subjects in studies of giftedness is that children
have not been exposed to as many environmental factors as
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adolescents or adults. Consequently, researchers can see the nature side
of the nature nurtured debate in a more pristine state.
What studies have shown is that gifted children perceive the
world in fundamentally different ways than other children. It is
as if their sensory apparatus is more finely tuned to
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detect input that others either filter out or ignore. This
heightened receptivity is present from the earliest stages of development
and later gives rise to the urge to perfect. Because
give to children perceive in ways that are different in
kind and degree than others. Their heightened receptivity makes them
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hot receptors, capable of automatically detecting even the slightest change
in their external environment. They also possess an innate sense
of how things should be and not just how they are.
In other words, they have an innate urge to perfect.
We often see these two traits displayed in children who
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aren't satisfied with things until they are just so. I
call these two underlying components of giftedness heightened receptivity and
the urge to perfect first nature traits. We often talk
about how things become second nature to us over a
period of time. In this case, the gifted don't experience
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any real adjustment period. They are hardwired from the very
start with these two traits. For that reason, first nature
is a convenient shorthand to describe them. It is the
first nature traits that give rise to the intensity, complexity,
and drive that are the more visible characteristics of giftedness.
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The only way to manifest What is the norm for
someone with such a highly sensitive sensory apparatus and vision
of how things ought to be in a world that
seems radically out of sync? Think of John's colleagues slow
motion mouths is to be intense, complex, and driven. As
Abraham Maslow pointed out, we are all driven by the
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urge to meet our needs. What if one of our
most fundamental needs is to have things be just so?
What do we do if our precise sense of proportion
sets off an alarm in our heads when the figures
we've drawn are slightly skewed. We still assess and start
over again and again until we get it right. And
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we don't do this so much by choice, but because
of a mandate from somewhere both inside and outside of ourselves.
Unless you've experienced this urge to perfect and are a
hot receptor yourself, it is difficult to make clear how
fundamentally a part of a gifted person's core personality these
first nature traits are and how much they affect their
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overall development. One way to think about first nature traits
is to compare them to hand preference. Unless we've suffered
some accident that has rendered our dominant hand useless, we
don't much think about the subject. Yet, like the first
nature of the gifted, our handedness has a major influence
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on how we negotiate our way in the world. And
like those well intentioned teachers and family members who once
forced left handers to abandon the use of the naturally
dominant hand, gifted adults often experience the same kind of treatment.
Most gifted people are not able to articulate that it
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is their first nature that makes them extraordinarily aware, compels
them to make things just so, or makes them so
dissatisfied when things are not that way. Consequently, when these
underlying formative personality traits express themselves, other people not only
usually misinterpret the message, but may sometimes fantasize about getting
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rid of the messenger as well. Like so many aspects
of human misbehavior, we have to separate the act from
the actor. In John's and Ann's cases, they weren't acting badly.
They were enacting a fundamental aspect of their personality. I
hope to provide a bridge between the society's expectations of
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how we ought to behave and the gifted personality, so
that we can understand that it is the desire of
the gifted person to live authentically and not suppress the
first natured traits that produce what some consider aberrant behavior.
In fact, I would agree that Ann's and John's behaviors
were somewhat aberate. However, it is more important for us
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to understand that they were behaving adberently in terms of
their own first nature, rather than acknowledge their supposed transgressions
against society's norms. In the course of working with gifted
adults over the years, I've discovered that they've learned that
they can't express their first nature traits without censure. As
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a result, they modify their behavior in one of two ways,
by either collapsing it or exaggerating it. Let's take a
closer look at John and Ann to see how they
are the perfect examples of this forced accommodation that gifted
adults make and the ways in which intensity, complexity and
drive function. On one hand, Ann's experiences and reactions typify
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the collapsed response when one's intensity, complexity and drive are challenged.
She lowered her standards to conform and began to distrust
herself and her intuition. Over the years, she developed the
habit of being too trusting and was too easily wounded.
As a result. She had always been consumed by the
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projects she undertook, and when she wasn't rewarded in proportion
to her efforts, she became indifferent, adopting a fatalistic view
of her mistakes. On the other hand, John is the
perfect example of exaggerated intensity, complexity and drive. His high
energy posed a threat to others when he dominated conversations,
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used words as weapons, and posed potentially embarrassing questions. John
was as raw and over stimulated as they come, a
provocateur who openly defied authority and ducked responsibility for his choices.
In addition to the umbrella traits of intensity, complexity, and drive,
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and John and other gifted adult of a pension for
what I call complex thinking, as well as sensory and
emotional sensitivity, deep empathy, excitability, perceptivity, and goal oriented motivation.
The concept of giftedness expanded. Since I have worked with
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a wide range of gifted individuals in a variety of senatives,
I have dared to take the risk of offering this
new platform for the discussion of adult giftedness. After counseling
hundreds of gifted people, I was increasingly alarmed to see
how confused they are by their unexplained inner conflicts, which
only grow stronger over the years. Although most of them
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appear to be navigating life with considerable success, the inner
story is one of lost identity. Repeatedly I have been
struck by their lack of freedom to express themselves and
to fulfill their potential, And on a much large I
am dismayed by the precious commodity our society loses when
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our most creative people are overwrought with self doubt and
self sabotage. More important, no one has offered a suitable
roadmap for how gifted adults may live out the promise
of their high potential, fit in and have successful relationships,
and manage themselves so that their traits are truly assets
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instead of liabilities. This means that how we conceptualize giftedness
has to be expanded to include two concepts, every day
genius and evolutionary intelligence. These two concepts fundamentally alter our
conception of giftedness and offer a new paradigm, which is
a risky venture. I owe a debt of gratitude to
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others in the field upon whose work I have built,
such as Lee Anne Bell, Mihali Chiksent, Mihali Casimirez, Thebrovsky,
Howard Gardner, Lida Hollingmore, Karl Gustavjong, Lawrence Colbert, Deirdre Lovaki,
Alice Miller, Michael Pihofsky, Jane Pierto, Joseph Nzuli, Mary Robemoora,
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Anne Marie Roper, Martin Seligman, Linda Krieger Silverman, Robert Sternberg,
and James T. Webb. I hope that what I present
in this book will serve as a catalyst to others,
so that we can be certain that one of our
most valuable resources, the everyday geniuses in our midst are
free to fully contribute to our collective advancement. For the
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past twenty years, Howard Gardner has been doing groundbreaking research
into intelligence. His work at Harvard University on Project Zero
has fundamentally changed the way in which many approach the
study of intelligence. His theory of multiple intelligences suggests that,
rather than being a single, discreet entity, intelligence is composed
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of various domains. The eight areas or types of intelligence
that he identifies are linguistic, logical, mathematical, spatial, musical, kinesthetic, interpersonal, intrapersonal,
and naturalist. His work has led us away from seeking
answers to the question of how smart someone is and
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toward a consideration of the ways in which someone is smart.
Everyone possesses each of the eight components of multiple intelligence
to some degree. However, as we know, not everyone is
as intense, complex and driven as the gifted adult. Although
everyone exhibits multiple intelligences, fewer people also have the first
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nature traits and the array of gifted characteristics that exist
under the umbrella of intensity, complexity and drive ICD. Those
people who possess this combination of multiple intelligence and gifted
characteristics are additionally described as gifted. I believe that another
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group of eminently gifted people exists in our society. I
call them every day geniuses. What separates the everyday genius
from the gifted A don't is that everyday geniuses possess
an additional set of tools the potential for advanced development.
Advanced development consists of a humanistic vision, a mandated mission,
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and revolutionary action. The gifted adults that I work with
generally have made some progress in their advanced development. Whatever
the reason, their progress has been sporadic, whether it's the
push pull of wanting to fit in or the exaggerated
or collapsed expression of one part of the first nature,
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They've been proceeding haphazardly. Their movement has been tentative, mostly
because they have yet to recognize and accept that they
are gifted adults. It is only when that first step
is complete that they can then take the subsequent steps
toward advanced development. Still, fewer people have been able to
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liberate and integrate their gifts to perform revolutionary acts that,
in large or small ways, change the world. I call
this group of people evolutionaries because not only do they
possess the complex of gifted traits that the everyday genius possesses,
including their hardwired first nature, their multiple intelligences, and their ICD,
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but they have embraced the call of advanced development that
results in evolutionary intelligence EVI. These individuals have learned to
employ their multiple intelligences and gifted traits catalyzed by their
advanced development traits to actualize their gifts in service of
their mandated mission in the real world. By actualizing these
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gifts in the service of self and others, these evolutionaries
are destined to push progress forward. My main goal, then,
is to expand the area of overlap, ideally to the
point where we have concentric circles where everyone with multiple
intelligences who also has gifted traits can manage his or
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her intensity, complexity, and drive and employ them in service
of his or her humanistic vision and mandated mission through
revolutionary action. It's an ambitious goal, but can we expect
any less of ourselves when our urge to perfect helps
define our existence. The first step toward expanding this group
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of people who possess evolutionary intelligence is identifying those who
have gifted traits. One of my prime motivations for writing
this book is the fact that there are so many
every day geniuses in the world who are undervalued and underutilized.
These people are a vital national resource, as potentially powerful
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and existence altering as any new energy source, medical discovery,
or microchip. Not to tap this vital resource and put
it to its best use is unproductive and unhealthy for
the individual and the society. To demystify giftedness, we have
to deconstruct it. We have to break it down into
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its component parts, and then examine how each of these
parts assembled in different combinations in every individual forms of
personality that is capable, when truly liberated, of transforming the world.
Beyond that, I've created a model for looking at the
core personality traits of the gifted adult that gives us
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a way to understand and manage these traits in the
real world. It is both theoretical and practical. For too long,
the most ardent desire of many of my patients has
been to find out what's wrong with them and fix it.
The guiding philosophy of my practice and the theme of
this book, is that every individual should find out what's
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right with him for her and manage it. Imagine, if
you will, that reading had come very naturally to you
as a young child, and no one ever had to
teach you how to read. Neither you nor any one
else could explain how this happened, but it did later
over a period of years, both at school and at home,
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others intervened and mistaught you that the correct way to
read was to hold the book or other text upside down.
When reading, not only did you have to read from
right to left instead of left to right, but recognizing
individual letters became a tedious and frustrating exercise. To add
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to your frustration, everyone else around you in school seemed
to manage just fine. Since you were having reading difficulties,
your grades suffered, and your self image plummeted. You heard
a nearly constant chorus of what's wrong with you? Whenever
you tried to explain that there was a better or
easier way to do it, you received that slow, sad
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wag of the head that told you that you were
indeed the sorriest of cases. You started to wonder, what's
wrong with me? And why can't I get this right?
In a very real sense, this example illustrates what many
of my gifted clients experience, and without fail, my response
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to their self criticism is what if what's wrong with
you is actually what's right. One purpose of this book
is to turn upside down, or better yet, to return
to right side up. Many of the concer that gifted
adults hold about themselves. Very often, Reading ourselves is the
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most crucial reading we will ever do. To feel like
an outsider, To constantly pressure yourself to hold back your
gifts in order to fit in or avoid disapproval. To
erroneously believe that you are overly sensitive, compulsively perfectionistic, and
blindly driven to live without knowing the basic truths about
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the core of your being. Too often, this is the
life of everyday geniuses who have been kept in the
dark about who they are and misinformed about their differences.
No one ever took them aside and explained, of course
you're different. You're intense, complex and driven because you're gifted.
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No one told them they cannot escape the fact that
they will always be quantitatively, qualitatively, and motivationally different from
most other people. Nor do they know that these very
same things that are the basis of criticism are fundamental
building blocks of excellence and advanced development. Is it any wonder, then, that,
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when faced with a choice of whether or not to
accept that they are gifted. Many of them initially reject
the label or demand tangible proof of their giftedness. Because
so many of my clients demand concrete evidence and prefer
numbers over an intuitive sense that an idea feels right,
I've devised the Evolutionary Intelligence Profile as a means to
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identify the potential for evolutionary intelligence in each of us.
This two hundred and forty item questionnaire is the first
practical tool for measuring evolutionary intelligence. It identifies the dynamic
and complex interaction between the urge to perfect and heightened
receptivity by measuring multiple intelligence is gifted traits, intensity, complexity,
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and drive and advance development. This in depth personality type
profile is reminiscent of the Meyers Briggs type indicator and
the eneaogram and allows you to rate your level of
evolutionary intelligence. The Evolutionary Intelligence Profile was the first tool
that I used to really make a difference in Anne's
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and John's lives. Once I had concrete evidence to support
my contention that they were indeed gifted, we could move
on to the next stages in their personal evolution. Whether
you or someone close to you may be an unidentified
gifted adult, you have gifted children, or you work with
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gifted people. Nothing will work very well for you until
you know the truth and what to do with it.
What you will learn in this book is based on
the five facets of Freedom, the five essential steps to
the liberation of everyday genius. Like Anne and John, all
unidentified gifted adults are diamonds in the rough and merely
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need a nudge to send them on their way to
mastering and applying their exceptional gifts. Each facet of freedom
is a critical phase in the refinement of the gifted adult,
and none can be overlooked if the desired outcome is
self actualization, the brilliant, multifaceted diamond of human potential. The
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five facets of freedom identify thyself, understand thyself, reveal and
heal thyself, manage thyself, liberate thyself, Identify thyself. The first
facet of freedom is the most important because it takes
us out of the dark about the gifted personality, so
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we can clearly see who and what we are and
are not that like the ugly dock claim, we were
born swans, not ducks. A giftedness checklist offers a quick
way to identify basic everyday genius characteristics that are widely misunderstood.
This allows us a new way of thinking about our traits.
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We get a glimpse of how the psychology and personality
of everyday genius is far more important than creative products
or history as a prodigy. The individual and collective importance
of this factor is explained, as well as how the
swan of everyday genius gets lost in the duckyard and
the high price of remaining lost over the years. Understand thyself,
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the second facet of freedom, allows us to move beyond
outdated IQ and other misleading notions about intelligence that keep
our abilities under wraps. We see ourselves in the faces
of the everyday geniuses next door. As we separate the
truth from indoctrinated untruths, we begin to learn how different
becomes wrong in our society and discover ways to normal
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our experience so that we no longer feel odd like
a minority of one. At this point, we are ready
to take an essential leap that links intelligence with evolution.
You will learn detailed information about your multiple abilities, gifted traits,
and advanced development by rating yourself on the EVEI profile.
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The EDI profile measures evolutionary intelligence and offers a new,
more comprehensive look at how intelligence fits the everyday genius's
purpose and design. Within the inventory, you will begin to
see how Gardner's multiple intelligences and gifted traits, combined with
the markers of events development, complement your unique first nature
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and can liberate your everyday genius into fully realized evolutionary intelligence.
Reveal and heal myself, the third facet of freedom looks
at liberation's real enemy fitting in. Looking back at the
EVII profile, we see more clearly how our gifted personality, traits,
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and behaviors come under the influence of our intensity, complexity,
and drive. What we have learned compels us to redefine
our differences, recognizing them no longer as liabilities, but as
true assets and the foundation of creative excellence. We also
explore how our self image has been distorted by the
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ten criticisms, the ten most common complaints that others have
leveled against us. By deconstructing and confronting these criticisms, we
can learn to see through these distortions and start to
respond with new insight and self confidence. We begin to
reveal our true selves by meeting the false self who
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often dominated our personalities during our developmental years to protect
us from disapproval and rejection. We begin to realize that
the false self has outlived its usefulness and is now
an obstacle with a destructive agenda. With the help of
guided reflection, we learn how being misinterpreted wounded us and
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how we in turn punished ourselves for our differences. We
learn to face and heal old wounds in order to
move forward. Recognizing the difference between the false self and
the true self prepares us for a reckoning. Seeing and
acknowledging how gifted assets can get out of control and
become liabilities is possibly the most significant step in the
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quest to complete healing. Consequently, we must deal with the
shadow side of giftedness, our false self reactions to people
and situations when our primary wounds are reopened, or when
our unmanaged assets turn against us in the form of
disorderly conduct. The fourth facet of freedom manage thyself, starts
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with learning to regulate the flow of everyday genius energy,
especially intensity, complexity, and drive. As we embrace our ICD differences,
we gain strength from knowing what it means to be
quantitatively qualitatively and motivationally different. We learn how to redirect
self defeating misuses of energy and avoid unintentional abuse of
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our gigs. By developing new coping strategies to replace outmoded defenses,
and by establishing balanced plants, we make great strides to
take charge of ourselves and our lives, which means we
can be less reactive and more prudently responsible. By learning
to manage our icd in our relationships, we can discover
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new ways of interacting that allow us to be both
individually free and intimately connected. The fifth and final facet
of freedom, liberate thyself is the end of the beginning,
the place where everyday genius traits and skills and vision
are finally into This is when we revisit our evolutionary
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intelligence and formulate a plan for the constructive enactment of
advanced development. The full potential of deliberated everyday genius gift
is delivered for the betterment of the world in the
form of fully realized evolutionary intelligence. Here is where we
finally accept that there has always been a fundamental reason
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for our particular way of thinking, perceiving, and feeling. We
recognize from where our power and insight actually originate, and
how to cooperate with our soul's destiny. In support of
our collective evolution, Passion, wisdom, and motivation are consciously mastered
and regulated so that the full force of high potential
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can be put to good use. Self liberation is more
than simply getting comfortable with being different, and more than
developing expertise or even becoming successful. By understanding the evolutionary moment,
the life altering or subtle turning points that aim us
toward our life purpose, we learn to accept the real
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life process of self actualization and even find comfort in
the dark nights of the soul that are necessary turning
points in our lives. Many gifted adults active in my
workshops saying being gifted would have been great, but it's
too late.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
For all that now.
Speaker 9 (01:05:25):
I didn't start soon enough or in the right direction.
Yet it is never as late as we think. Excellence
emerges only over time because advanced development is rooted in
the process of integration. The path to fulfillment is one
of pressures and evolutionary moments that disturb and shape us.
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None of us knows exactly when our abilities and life
experience and opportunities will gell giftedness is like an ember.
It may turn cold and dim on the outside, but
its radiance is always there, awaiting the spark of renewal.
Everyday geniuses spend the first part of their lives trying
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to be who they are and meeting with disapproval. The
second part is spent pretending to be someone they are
not in order to fit in, and if they're determined
and lucky, they can spend the third part chipping away
at the rock of that created false self and moving
closer to being the authentic individuals they were uniquely destined
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to be. At this time in our evolution, when human
beings are the major agent of change on our planet,
we cannot afford to repress those who have the capacity
to create a better world. The problems we face today
cannot be resolved using yesterday's ways of thinking. Those in
every corner of the globe who possess the wisdom and
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the integrity to take revolutionary action are already too few
in number. This is the challenge for the everyday genius
who bears, along with the gift of exceptional ability, the
responsibility to create a better tomorrow. It is my hope
that this work will offer the next step in personal
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evolution for gifted adults and for those who know love
and work with them and guide them toward the liberation
of their destinies. In a society that often favors individuality
over the collective good. Every day geniuses have labored far
too long under the false assumption that they must go
it alone. This book is meant to reassure and challenge
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everyday geniuses are not alone, and they must move forward
to undertake their great task and earn its many rewards.
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Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!