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because the crafts is not respected.

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said they just doing.

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You don't worry about what the other man man is
saying to June, Si, he's a dream alone.

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You know that all flows to me, doctor Joe.

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Because I'm gonna really throw unless's bottomed from a Nermans.

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If they bothering you really.

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the chart pretty, it's.

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number brother the number and I'm just putting my job.

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So society, what is about the.

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Black brothers and what is about them? Not just try

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the money?

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Can you make me out to you said.

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You want to do that to me?

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Wanted to out down other fels just sack me down,
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told me said looking the felt down. Other felt for
sag me down, So need to help down?

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that down?

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I just lab by.

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Not a red brown.

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Don't tell things so bad?

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Why not do I just a clap by that, not
a red down till.

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Feel so bad?

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If you can try to break off by a want
you love that a bag but me.

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bring the pa the people when they come saying, look
at the mirror, bring yourselfing do say just.

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Then the same okay, it's the people butting when they
come you.

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Say you want to look at the mirror, bring you
something to say? Just then assist. And I watched that
till someone. It's like life the sick.

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But I've got the.

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Ts like that only mind rems. I've been froming, meditating
with the mind that you're raking in.

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Then the loss off.

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motivate the crypt for life. As the design on the
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That the must flow.

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I see Baslow, we're both paying so bout aging.

Speaker 15 (17:23):
It's all the same now music.

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Look, you bring yourself the doc you want?

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Did you go looking?

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They bring yourself and let the.

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Don to see. Just let the saying.

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Free. The same expends just coming to let the man.
I looked at the fifty so wonderful. But start your person.
I want to do one. I have to chase my
the you peo pull and.

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you won't trust that, I'll just make you cream became
the blue along get better than my head bad. I
just calling for resistance to weeping, to come att.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
The pushing, let frosting, and not to see.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
The country I have set side. You need to live
the more, just to be wearing before the.

Speaker 17 (18:55):
Spirit I've been putting on under the discuss don't keep them,
bring yourself and.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Just let the thinking, don't the mirror, bring yourself and
just let the doctor.

Speaker 15 (19:46):
H Criticism number six. You have to do everything the
hard way.

Speaker 18 (19:56):
New response, Ah, I see you understand, and that excellence
is difficult. The hard way is the habit of creation,
and the creative equation cannot be completed on one side
without involving the other. Innovation implies new construction or restructuring
existing ideas.

Speaker 15 (20:17):
In novel ways.

Speaker 18 (20:18):
The latter is, of course the very hardest way, and
yet in many situations it is the only way. Innovation's
restructuring process is often called creative problem solving and happens
to be everyday genius's forte. This form of problem solving
is a strength that involves more than occasional searches for

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solutions because it is tied to our core directive, our
first nature, heightened receptivity, and the urge to perfect. It
comes as no surprise because on multiple levels. We are
here as delivery persons, compelled to seek, know and creating.
When we allow ourselves to be influenced by the creative field,

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we feel it, sense it, hear it, and respond to
the urge to capture its illuminating effect. Giftedness alone does
not make the creative process easier, for making new is
difficult at any level of ability. Simply being creative is
also inadequate, because many people have ideas they never develop

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or give up when the going gets tough. The difference
between a creative person and a creative producer is hard work.
Those who actually produce the play, build the rocket, find
the cure, and write the novel don't let their ideas
collect dust on the tomorrow shelf. They dig in, often

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before they feel completely ready, and keep digging until they
unearth what they are searching for. It is the unglamorous, relentless,
dirty hands effort that eventually turns a drawing into a
masterpiece and a melody into a concerto. When excellence is
the goal, nothing less will do. Like so many gifted organizers,

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Claire had found both success and comfort and exactitude setting
things straight, really straight, made her a top candidate for
excellence in her career of managing her city's botanical garden.
She was proud of the obvious precision in the hedge Maze,
a place where she liked to linger over lunch whenever
she could. Claire felt at home there amidst the flawless

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pangles and bubble perfect levels of green. Precision was a
defining part of her world, and for the most part,
she was a shining star in it. That is, until
she flipped blotted into a robotic procrastinator. I'm hoping you
can help me find a middle ground between my attachment

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to rules and order and my need to feel free
and to enjoy my life. So far, I've tried being
one or the other, a compartmental line niche maker fanatic,
or a freewheeling, blithe spirit. I can't seem to make
a go of either one. When I start systematizing, I
don't know where to stop. If I let everything go,

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it makes me feel shaky and negligent. I want to
regain my childlike sense of wonder and creative dash so
I don't get myself stuck in rules and all or
nothing motorized behaviors. But I also want to be on
top of things, because otherwise they come back at me
with a vengeance, and then I have to spend too

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much time getting things back in order.

Speaker 15 (23:36):
So there's the assignment.

Speaker 18 (23:37):
Become an organized, easygoing person, or conversely.

Speaker 15 (23:42):
A go with the flow finisher.

Speaker 18 (23:45):
No more getting perfectionistic to the point of stalling out.
No more procrastinating because I always have to overseearch and
get ready ad nauseum. No more boxing myself in so
tightly that I become a stereotype instead of a person.
And no more avoiding and letting myself be a lounger
to the point where I have to race around like

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a chicken with its head cut off. I want to
take the varying road in the middle that will never
get me detoured to those extremes again. Everyday geniuses need
to create the best that they are capable of. Is
not something that goes away with time. It's not something
we can excise or a job from which we can

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expect to happily retire. To be sure, the intensity of
creative pressure does ebb and flow, but like the tide,
it always comes back unless we are extraordinarily hindered. Sooner
or later, we must comply with the creative spirit's urgings
because it is more persevering than any attempt by our

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thinking mind to ignore our gids. Living every day with
the need to create is like sharing a room with
a hyperactive little brother who elbows you, tugs at your
shirt sleeve, tweaks your ear repeatedly until you give him
your undivided attention.

Speaker 15 (25:04):
You can't stand him, but at the same time, you
love him dearly.

Speaker 18 (25:10):
Anne Marie Roper, founder of the Roper School for the
Gifted and The Roper Review, a highly respected professional journal
dedicated to enhancing the understanding and education of the gifted,
identifies the intense inner pressure to create as a hallmark
of the gifted adult. Gifted adults may be overwhelmed by

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the pressure of their own creativity. The gifted derive enormous
satisfaction from the creative process. Much has been written about
this process, how it works, the pressure of the inner agenda,
the different phases it involves, the excitement and anxiety that
comes with it, and the role played by the unconscious.

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One aspect, however, is not often mentioned. I believe the
whole process is accompanied by a feeling of a lieafeness,
of power, of capability, of enormous relief and of transcendence
of the limits of your own body and soul. The
unique self flows into the world outside. It is like

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giving birth. Creative expression derives directly from the unique self
of the creator, and its activation brings inherent feelings of
happiness and aliveness. Even though they may be accompanied by
less positive emotions such as sadness, fear, and pain. Underneath
all is the enormous joy of discovery and personal expression.

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The creative experience is not unique to the gifted, but
I believe that for them there are more opportunities for
creativity and that the experience is more alive and powerful.
Just as the creative process creates a feeling of happiness,
the greatest unhappiness can occur if it is interfered with
or not allowed to happen.

Speaker 15 (26:58):
In that case, the inner pressure cannot be released.

Speaker 18 (27:04):
Many everyday geniuses have talents that are designed to produce
a creative end result, and they also have one thing more,
a special capacity to explore in independent and imaginative ways
and generalize their findings on many subjects. In their atypical minds,
they turn reality on its head to view the world

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in fundamentally different ways. Beyond producing objects of value, the
gifted create for the sole purpose of creative expression. They
need to create and are rejuvenated by it. They often
do so whether someone asks them to or not, regardless
of payment or recognition, chiefly because they enjoy solving their

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own puzzles independent of external influence. With this in mind,
I can honestly say I have never seen a movie
I didn't appreciate. Naturally, I have been disappointed when certain
films didn't meet my expectations.

Speaker 15 (28:03):
When I overhear patrons.

Speaker 18 (28:05):
Leaving with nasty criticisms, I take offense on behalf of
those who have put in the tremendous creative effort required
to complete such a project.

Speaker 15 (28:15):
First, there's the effort.

Speaker 18 (28:16):
Of originating the idea in the first place, then recasting
it so it makes sense. Then there's the writing and
rewriting of the screenplay, and the daring to offer it
up to investors before surviving the sharp marketing clause of
the industry gurus.

Speaker 15 (28:32):
The process continues from.

Speaker 18 (28:33):
The title expert and the makeup artist who can incrementally
age an actor fifty years, to the special effects technician
who makes us believe it's really raining all this effort
is commanded for a public who pays ten dollars to
sit in a soft chair and absorb the creative results
for ninety minutes. If it grosses millions, I say well done.

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If it's a one weekend the aska, I say well done.
It's the creative effort that matters. Creative people can feel
badgered by a sense that they must constantly deliver winning results,
which is why many gifted individuals quit their artistic quests prematurely.
In American society, the creative process is rarely seen as

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its own reward, so the evolutionary must remember that the
final product only hints at the aliveness and transcendent power
of the process of innovation. Scott, until you asked me,
I never gave it a second thought. But you're right.
I do take stock of myself all the time. I'm

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constantly reviewing my actions and motivations. No wonder, I'm anxious.
I'm a person under non stop scrutiny my own I'm
no easy to please evaluator either, that's for sure. The
gifted tackle complex problems, problems that at first first glance,
appear unsolvable. This often looks as though we're doing things

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the hard way, and yet arduous effort is not evidence
that the problem could have been solved more easily. This
tolerance and preference for intricacy are the characteristics that often
make the difference when someone must find creative answers in
the face of growing complexity. Tolerance and perseverance work together

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because the everyday genius mind is built to tolerate a
lack of structure until the pieces of the puzzle begin
to line up in some understandable order. We are not
digging around for answers in a haphazard way, even though
it may look that way. Everyday geniuses come equipped with
something like an internal mining crew that manages a well

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organized home base, so we can go off searching in
different directions. It empowers us to imagine and wander about
in creative thought without getting lost or straying too far
from the intended goal.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
This is why.

Speaker 15 (31:03):
Creative producers seems so enigmatic.

Speaker 18 (31:06):
The system that keeps the work moving forward and organized
on the inside is invisible in the midst of a
desk that looks as though a tornado struck it. It's
a good thing that we are suited to work in
a foggy maze, because that is where innovation so often resides,
though others may find it odd apparent unfeasibility is inviting

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us when it presents itself as a fog covered labyrinth,
a place where we can peek around unfamiliar corners and
play with our intuition to see if we can make
our way to the other side. Carl Jung grasped this
when he observed the creative mind plays with the objects
it loves. However, there is a paradox in this, one

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of several that appear in the gifted person's life. Negotiating
the problem maze is a fascination repulsion contradiction that can
be summed up in the remark, oh, how painful this is?
I just love it, perhaps more than anything else. It
is this love hate relationship with challenge that Steiny's others

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who mistakenly conclude we choose to suffer unnecessary angst. It's
true that until the creative product appears on the scene,
we may be the only ones who have a solid.

Speaker 15 (32:25):
Idea of where we're going.

Speaker 18 (32:27):
Explaining one's vision to others is generally an exercise in
frustration that is better avoided. In truth, that vision is
often merely impossible to articulate, sometimes even to ourselves. We
have an itch that needs to be scratched, a door
that beckons us to open it, a want that turns

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into a must. The love hate relationship with creative production
is somewhat like a good horror flet.

Speaker 15 (32:55):
All the juices start to flow.

Speaker 18 (32:57):
The sensory system is unfull alert, and the unexpected is expected.
Courage and thrill in the murky engagement, relief and gratification
in the conquest. The painstaking steps of the creative process
always involve formulating and reformulating, retracing old steps and taking

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new ones, then repeating it all until the final.

Speaker 15 (33:20):
Goal is reached. Then and only then can we permit
ourselves to sit back and say there.

Speaker 18 (33:28):
Sometimes we are inappropriately accused of being intolerant, despite the
fact that we tolerate one thing most people distrust and
avoid ambiguity. Defining ambiguity is not difficult. Whereas obscurity stems
from chaos and impossibility implies the unattainable, Ambiguity is about quandary,

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about apparently irreconcilable contradictions, about a multiplicity of options, the
skill to confront complex meanings. However, compliments our ability to
approach all sides of an issue, and we are always
fascinated with complicated riddles. Like others, we find complicated situations troublesome,

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But the reason we are recognized as idea people is
because we are willing to float.

Speaker 15 (34:17):
On a sea of doubt longer than others.

Speaker 18 (34:20):
The moment when others are frustrated enough to throw up
their hands in resignation is often when we are just
getting going. The so called hard way is really the
long and slow and irritating way of excellence. Reserving the
need to be certain along the way is a hall
mark of every day genius thinking. Even though we get

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frustrated too, we understand that progress is almost never a
rocket shot straight to the target. The creative burst that
has the power to change everything is the product of
what writer Arthur Kessler calls the sudden fusion of two
or more consents. The everyday genius's ability to overshadow the

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average problem solver is in March part attributed to an
exceptional ability to combine existing data with new ideas to
tame and harness paradox. This management of paradox not being
undone by it, or running away from it involves simultaneous
problem finding and problem solving efforts. We possess so many

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ideas primarily because we can allow seemingly disconnected elements to
linger in our heads in a subconscious filing system that
determines what is valuable and what is mental junk mail.
There they wait, stored and filed until the right moment, when,
as James Vardue, founding director of the Psychosynthesis Institute in

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San Francisco, notes, the ideas are ready to come under
the influence of the created field. This filing method integrates
the powers of earned experience, knowledge, and intuition by holding
captivating notions in a state of readiness. The creative thinker
holds a different attitude than others, one that does not

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give way to the forces of turmoil and creative tension,
but rather sees stress as opportunity for discovery. Certainly, Einstein's
discovery of the theory of relativity illustrates this point in
productive thinking. Max Wertheimer describes Einstein's pre illumination frustration a

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certain region in the structure of the whole situation was
in reality not as clear to him as it should be,
although it had hitherto been accepted without question by everyone,
including himself. During this time, he was often depressed, sometimes
in despair, but driven by the strongest vectors. Einstein's struggle

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with his relativity theory continued for seven years, during which
it might have been said little happened that he was
trying to do something the hard way. Yet perhaps many
of the greatest discoveries are, by necessity the result of
the greatest difficulties. Besides perseverance and tension, tolerance knowing when

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to stop fishing for a while to do something else
is a critical factor in innovation. Einstein's sidetrack to re
examine his theories about time led to his new theory
of relativity just five weeks later. Like Einstein, we too
rely on the knitting that is done by our unconscious
minds when we are off task. A problem or idea

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in incubation is free of the limitations of our conscious logic,
at liberty to examine theories and relationships the thinking mind cannot.
This is the territory of our inner creative artist, who
was able to stretch out the problem in many directions,
to pull together strands of silk, steel, ocean, water, and
cloud from remote areas of the cosmos, far beyond the

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reaches of educated knowledge. When the strands have been artfully
and painstakingly woven together, illumination occurs. Once the AHA has occurred,
we can switch back to our linear thinking mode and
make use of the newly designed fabric. Then the more
mundane work must begin, the work of production, which many

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creative producers consider a frustrating necessity. Nevertheless, innovation is not
all spark and sparkle, and it never comes easy. Its
challenges and demands almost always exceed the effort implied by
the end result.

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The so called hard way is truly the way of
evolution itself, which is creativity on the cosmic scale. Innovation
is the direct.

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Application of our gifts as they are allowed to come
under the influence of the higher creative field. Throughout the
process of creation, we ascend and descend again and again,
each time crossing the threshold between ground dwelling human and
transcending spirit. This is what Wortheimer meant when he referred

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to the strongest vectors, because its unusual properties combined direction
and force, both of which are inspired, not forced. This
is the way creativity has always been ten getting free
from the top five criticisms. We are the ones we've

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been waiting for.

Speaker 15 (39:35):
June Jordan.

Speaker 18 (39:38):
When the ten major criticisms are finally debunked, you will
no longer need to question and requestion yourself in search
of permission or approval. You can free yourself from the
urge to repeatedly explain yourself, justify your ideas, and placate
everyone in your path who seems confused about you. There's

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simply too much energy waste that way, and usually for naught.
Affirming your true self on the inside does not, however,
mean you can rest on your laurels, Nor does it
mean you can forego ownership of inappropriate social behavior, lack
of effort, selfishness, or immaturity. Yet by ridding yourself of

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a few fundamental who am I confusions, the ones that
nagg at you and wear you down the most, you
can face your life revitalized and ready to fulfill your potential.
If all this sounds like a herculean assignment, stand by,
there is good news. Self empowerment tends to grow in

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curious stages. First in tiny can I really do this? Steps,
followed by several by George I'm doing it upward strides
and sometimes in quantum leaps.

Speaker 15 (40:54):
This is accomplished by understanding yourself at the core level.

Speaker 18 (40:58):
This is necessary because every step of self definition is
a revolutionary act. Remember, no matter how ready and willing
you are, all change is inevitably interspersed with backsliding. Don't
fool yourself into thinking this is not the case, or
that falling down is easy to take.

Speaker 15 (41:18):
No one does well with the.

Speaker 18 (41:20):
Discouraging stumblings that set things back a few strides, especially because.

Speaker 15 (41:24):
They often seem to happen just when things are going
along well.

Speaker 18 (41:29):
Reclaiming the birthright of everyday genius takes practice.

Speaker 15 (41:33):
It's like learning to walk all over again.

Speaker 18 (41:36):
Occasionally, traversing the peaks and valleys of self becoming can
result in a wrong turn or a bruising fall. But
we're built for that too. To get up, brush ourselves off,
and forge ahead. Although it might not seem like it
at the time, everyday geniuses are programmed to bounce back. Soon,

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awkward steps become easier, and you find yourself moving forward
with new confidence.

Speaker 15 (42:04):
That is when you will be free to deliver your
gifts with determination.

Speaker 18 (42:09):
Consequently, when you turn around, you'll discover most of your
self doubt has been shaded. Now with half of the
obsolete criticisms dispelled and the momentum of fifty percent more
self assurance. Let's face the top five criticism number five.
You're so demanding new response, I do know what I want.

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Let's look at how being exacting is connected to our
specialized way of doing things. When we do know what
we want, we don't want anything else. After assembling the
components of an important idea and reaching the point of crystallization,
our conclusions are not easily budged, and yes, we.

Speaker 15 (42:55):
Can become very insistent.

Speaker 18 (42:59):
Gerald Everybody seems to think I'm a radical, that my
primary goal in.

Speaker 15 (43:04):
Life is to be a nonconformist. That's not it at all.

Speaker 18 (43:08):
I just have this really active imagination that runs all
the time like a movie marathon, with overlays of ideas
and news of the day and lists of things to do.

Speaker 15 (43:18):
It's pretty busy up there in my head.

Speaker 18 (43:20):
When I get hold of the image of what I'm
after on a project, I hold on to it like
super glue. I have always had a sense of when
things are done done right, that is, I'm willing to
take what's important to me all the way. I don't
care what it takes. I just can't justify doing less.
Everything I do I put my heart and soul into

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That's what makes it worthwhile, not just getting done, but
getting as close as I can to the ideal.

Speaker 15 (43:51):
Nadine Persistence isn't a choice for me, It's a way
of life.

Speaker 18 (43:56):
I vigorously pursue my goals, sometimes finding it hard to
bet balance my life because of my intense commitment. I
always have a goalpost in my line of sight. I
simply don't feel good unless I can see that I
am clicking off the yardage and getting somewhere. Trouble is,
as soon as I reach the end zone, the yards
gained behind me disappear from view.

Speaker 15 (44:18):
Then I'm on to the next problem or achievement. Goalpost ahead,
many yards to go.

Speaker 18 (44:24):
If only I could let myself accumulate some kind of
internal praise or tribute to what I did before, instead
of dismissing it as nothing more than what was expected,
I'd be much more content, much happier along the way
from one end zone to the next.

Speaker 15 (44:42):
Ralph.

Speaker 18 (44:43):
Whenever I'm really absorbed in a project, deep down into it,
it drives me crazy.

Speaker 15 (44:48):
If I'm interrupted, it breaks me out of my zone
and I.

Speaker 18 (44:51):
Get really upset, especially if the interruption is for something
I think is trivial. Most people have a limited understand
of how personally laborious it is to plow through ideas
toward the bumpy process of innovation. Though it's generally great
to be creative, creative expression does not come without its price.

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The zealous and single minded individual who supports a project
until it reaches maturity and excellence is all too often
interpreted as being incredibly demanding. It is not easy for
us to accept that others do not share our zeal
and are not willing to go to the lengths that
we are to investigate, polish, and refine. This disappointing reality

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is just as difficult for us to handle as our
exactitude is for others. Case in point, In the course
of the thirty plus years of her indefatigable career, Barbara
Streisand has been recognized as one of the most successful
and talented people in show business history. Few, however, have
been privy to her private world, a world that has

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included exhausting rehears and years of painful stage fright. In
a nineteen ninety four article, and vanity fair. Streisand openly
discussed her difficulty in returning to the concert tour after
twenty eight years. I was really frightened in Vegas. My
heart was pounding. Why would I put myself through this agony?

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I thought I really would disappoint people that I wasn't
good enough. Yet, in true evolutionary style, she persevered, and
there is little question that her willingness to overcome her
anxiety to perfect her creative products resulted in much listening
pleasure for her public. Later, Streisand was rebuked in the

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press for reportedly holding up the release of The Prince
of Tides for more than three years by insisting on
a series of meticulous changes. True, she seldom settled for
anything less than what measured up to her high ideals. Perhaps, however,
her fortitude and insistence on perfecting details was precisely what

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made the movie so successful. Streisand's high standards have paid off,
specifically because the ideal she envisions is usually exactly what
she delivers.

Speaker 15 (47:12):
She does know clearly and in detail what she wants.

Speaker 18 (47:17):
Even so, it seems reasonable that her high expectations might
not always mesh with those of others. It is true
that over the years her perseverance has alienated a few colleagues. However,
this is not about her being childishly demanded. It is
about pressing for the highest artistic achievement. After all, how

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does an energized visionary push the creative limit without having
someone occasionally pushed back. Although Straisande's commitment to her goals
has sometimes annoyed her associates, there is little doubt that
it has contributed immeasurably to the value of her endeavors. Yet,
like all gifted adults, Straisand is much more more than

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her list of accomplishments. By her friend's account, she is curious, passionate,
eager to debate, and quick to flit from subject to subject.
Many also find her compellingly interesting and articulate. Currently, Straisand's
need for balance in her life is said to receive
top billing. By her own admission, her intensity and insatiable

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appetite for learning and truth are becoming more reflective and
spiritual with the passage of time. Criticism number four, can't
you ever be satisfied? New response? Sure, I derive satisfaction
in many ways. When others hear us complaining about the

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status quo. What we are really doing is comparing as
is to our dream of a better world. For those
of us who tend to say what we see, it
must appear that we can't be satisfied.

Speaker 15 (48:58):
In a way.

Speaker 18 (48:59):
We are all always dissatisfied with the present because we
are Apollonian in our aim toward goals, long shooters who
dare to set our sights high and far.

Speaker 15 (49:09):
It is important for us to accept the fact that
we will inevitably be frustrated some of the time.

Speaker 18 (49:16):
All the same, we must take care to avoid letting
constant dissatisfaction alienate us from the joys of our journey everyday.
Geniuses are not perennial mal contents unless they are deterred
from self expression. Though our satisfaction may not always be
readily apparent to others, it does become visible as we

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find ways to become who we.

Speaker 15 (49:38):
Are intended to be.

Speaker 18 (49:41):
Then our looks of contentment shine through in spite of
life's daily aggravations. Charles, A lot of my thinking is
picture and sound, and I process things by image more
than words. In some respect, I think it's my way
of trying to shut out the world and relax. I'm

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a stimulation junkie, which means if I don't pull inside
for a while, I suffer from stimulation overload.

Speaker 15 (50:09):
I'm like one of those sea anemonies, those flowerlike.

Speaker 18 (50:12):
Creatures stuck on rocks that wave their little tentacles about
in the ocean for food, except unlike me, they have
the sense to pull in when they've had enough stimulation. Me,
I'm always on the go, like a stuck throttle. When
I kick back in mental meandering, I'm taking a break.
The outside world and my inside agitation.

Speaker 15 (50:34):
Don't get to me. I can get lost in my
own thoughts.

Speaker 18 (50:38):
I suppose sometimes that means I seem aloof or rude,
and I know I need to watch out for that.

Speaker 15 (50:44):
But the truth is that I need that source of satisfaction,
or at least something like it.

Speaker 18 (50:50):
Ten minutes in the park gazing at the ripples in
the pond are worth their weight in gold. My fantasies
and fascination with the little things make the humdrum parts
of life richer, more exciting, more touchable. It's my built
in well of serenity, standing back from the details of
everyday life to regain my sense of balance, to reconnect

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with the steady frequency of life itself. Many of us
discover that conventional forms of satisfaction become less important as
we gain access to higher, yet simpler sources of fulfillment.
We learn and relearn that small pleasures possess a much
longer shelf life than material goods and public approval. One

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of our most priceless gifts is our ability to uncover
pleasures others often miss. No matter what the obstacles, our
inherent craving for authentic experience is never destroyed. Opportunity for
satisfaction is never lost because of three of our gifts.
One a curiosity that revels in examining things closely in

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our mind's eye. Two a deep understanding that we are
part of a universal tapestry in which all things are interconnected,
And three being purposely designed to wonder about the cause
of this wonder in the universe. What does all this
have to do with contentment? Our sensitivities equip us to

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go about our daily lives within a virtual Epcot center
of discovery. Heightened awareness offers us a renewable resource of
immediate experiences of seemingly disparate elements of beauty.

Speaker 15 (52:32):
Many everyday geniuses seem to have this heightened.

Speaker 18 (52:34):
Awareness and ability to appreciate what's most valuable from the start.

Speaker 15 (52:40):
Some gain it through life's turn about events.

Speaker 18 (52:43):
After a heart attack, Abraham Maslow noted a profound change
in his sources of satisfaction. One very important aspect of
the post mortem life is that everything gets doubly precious.
You get stabbed by flowers and babies, and by beautiful things.
Just the very act of living, of walking, breathing, eating,

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having friends and chatting, everything seems to look more beautiful
rather than less, and one gets the much intensified sense
of miracles. Like it or not, we are grounded beings
who have much on our minds and plenty to do
every day. Geniuses are fitted from the start to perceive

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their world as a playground of fascinating possibility. Many times
in our uncommon existence we parallel the experience of Lewis
Carroll's wide eyed heroine in Alice in Wonderlaye, as we
too explain curiouser and curiouser one way or another, from
ants to Zoroastrianism. There's something that fires our ready interest,

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and interest is the instigator of satisfaction. Multiple interests become
a problem only when we try to go down too
many roads at once. If we take precautionary steps to
avoid spreading our energies too thin, our broad range of
fascination can serve as a lifelong source of fascinating adventure
and ecstatic moments self actualizing. People who rely on flashes

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of surprise and wonder to liberate themselves from fear, self doubt,
lack of control, and feelings of isolation from self often
have ecstatic experiences. We can learn to employ these invigorating
time outs to gather and refresh ourselves as we exhale
the dross of every day living. For a brief period,

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the world is changed, fantasy and reality merging while we
take time to ride the mystical rhythms of a cello
or skate over the intricate design of Jack Frost's icy etchings.
Another source of satisfaction that is particularly attractive to us
is the future.

Speaker 15 (54:58):
The future is always a realm that beck the evolutionary.

Speaker 18 (55:01):
Fortunately, here is an area in which we may delve
to our heart's content with little fear of becoming bored
or running out of puzzles to ponder.

Speaker 15 (55:11):
By midlife, many of us begin to experience an escalating.

Speaker 18 (55:15):
Interest in the future, and not just in terms of
what's going to happen next week. For those of us
who love to future play in the labyrinths of human evolution,
the subtle ins and outs of symbol, myth, poetry, dream, spirituality,
and philosophy can be especially engaging. Our interest is more

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collective and focused on the farthest reaches of human experience.
Here is where the future becomes deep, wide, and dramatic. Indeed,
these are rich resources of well being for nearly every
self actualizing adult. By most accounts, self realization and spiritual
enlightenment progress simultaneously requiring us to become.

Speaker 15 (55:58):
Seekers of the transcendent. Here is the second stanza.

Speaker 18 (56:02):
Of on the Ineffable Inspiration of the Holy Spirit, written
by German poet Katerina Regina von Greifenberg in the early
sixteen hundreds. Never by its own power, the soul is
thus alike. It was a miracle, wind, a spirit, a
creative being, the eternal power of breath, prime origin of

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being that in me kindled for himself this heaven flaring light. Fortunately,
we also have a gift of appreciation for art and
beauty and can rely on it as the rootstock for
inspiration and energy. Just as our sense of purpose provides
us with invigoration and renewal, our esthetic consciousness serves as

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a wellspring of illumination. Vitality, and joy increase when we
allow ourselves to be influenced by art, both man made
and divine. It might even be said that a tryst
with esthetics is one way in which we go home
for a visit, a brief reunion that momentarily closes the
gap between self and soul. Experiencing arts is like raising

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both palms with fingers extended upward until our hands are
met by the hands of the divine.

Speaker 15 (57:18):
Such homecoming encounters with.

Speaker 18 (57:20):
Beauty are depicted in the visionary words of many an
everyday genius. For Khalil Gebron, beauty was eternity gazing at
itself in a mirror. Ralph Waldo Emerson saw God's handwriting
in beauty, and Jane Porter interpreted beauty as the soul
shining through its crystalline covering. In her unique way, Georgia

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O'Keefe possessed the genius to pull us directly into the
heart and essence of her esthetic universe, her paintings capturing
a single flower's magnificence immediately distinguish her work and underscore
the innumerable marvels of nature that surround us every day.
It is said that when O'Keefe was six months old,

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she was set outdoors on the grass upon a patchwork quilt.
Many years later, she could still see in her mind's
eye the quilt of tiny red and white flowers on
a black and white background, exactly as it was that
sunny afternoon. Above all, she recalled the magnitude and splendor
of the day, able to regain the joy she had

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felt so long ago in the brightness of the light
light all around. In the symbolism of poetry, William Butler
Yates insists the creative mind must be at liberty to
wander and wonder, to contemplate, to meditate.

Speaker 15 (58:43):
The purpose of rhythm, it has always seemed to me,
is to prolong.

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The moment of contemplation, the moment when we are both
asleep and awake, which is the one moment of creation,
by hushing us with an alluring monotony, while it holds
us waking by variety to keep us in that state
perhaps real trance, in which the mind liberated from the
pressure of the will is unfolded in symbols. I was

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writing once at a very symbolical and abstract poem, when
my pen fell on the ground, and as I stooped
to pick it up, I remembered some fantastic adventure that
yet did not seem fantastic, and then another like adventure.
And when I asked myself when these things had happened,
I found that I was remembering my dreams. For many nights,

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I tried to remember what I had done the day before,
and then what I had done that morning. But all
my waking life had perished from me, and it was
only after a struggle that life perished in its turn.
Had my pen not fallen on the ground and so
made me turn from the images that I was weaving
into verse, I would never have known that meditation had

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become trance, for I would have been like one who
does do not know that he is passing through a
wood because his eyes are on the pathway. For us,
deep satisfaction is rarely far away. It is even more
accessible because of the legacies of everyday geniuses, renowned and unnamed,
who have provided us, through the gears, with the foundation

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to support our own life's work. We can draw on
the very same source of radiant light as our predecessors,
because we too possess special vision. It is the vision
that allows us to peel away the outer coating of
everyday experience.

Speaker 15 (01:00:34):
To touch the transcendent.

Speaker 18 (01:00:38):
Criticism number three, you're so driven new response, Yes, I
am focused and have much to do.

Speaker 15 (01:00:49):
Everyday.

Speaker 18 (01:00:50):
Geniuses do, of course, derive immense pleasure from effort. Yet
in order for effort to be fulfilling, a good part
of it must be related to our unique inner agenda.
Once mandated mission and drive are connected, it is not
easy to turn it off like a faucet, because a
great part of our identity concerns goal direction. At times,

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our goal orientation makes us feel like a geyser, filling
us with repeated rumblings of discomfort until the appropriate fissure
opens up a new channel.

Speaker 15 (01:01:22):
For expression of the true self.

Speaker 18 (01:01:24):
Most of the time, the pressure gage approaches the red
zone well before we consciously know what our drive is about.
Turning down the pressure would be easy if it were
simply a matter of choice. It is not, for when
effort is about calling a personal duty, it is a
powerful force that compels us to do what we are

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intended to do in the service of humanity. The source
of the pressure is the central point about being driven.
The key element in this equation is the fact that
we alone are not a driver's We are driven by purpose.
We do not simply choose to drive ourselves toward our
personal goals. If we heed the wisdom of our subconscious agenda,

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as made known to us by our damon, our guiding
inner spirit or genius, and consciously reflect on our unique
place in the scheme of human evolution, we can accept
ourselves as responsive co creators who merely collaborate with destiny
instead of attempting to force it into place. Calvin, I

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need to find a way to stop impersonating myself and
have the inside me and the outside me match more often.
I am smart and to go get her, though I'm
still human. I'm not perfect or inexhaustible. I have real
needs and real doubts, and as thin as skin as
anybody else. But no one knows that, and I'm really

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scared that if they did, they'd either be glad to
see me knocked down a few pegs, or they'd be
disappointed in me. Not much room for winning there Accepting
myself as a high achiever with killer drive is no problem.
Opening my arms to the part of me that is imperfect, vulnerable,
and fallible is another thing. Altogether, I've always expected myself

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to jump through hoops when.

Speaker 15 (01:03:22):
I miss I can be pretty hard to live with.

Speaker 18 (01:03:26):
More and more, I want to enjoy doing what I'm
good at and to excel without feeling like I need
to apologize for it. I have so much to do,
so many needs in the world tug at me for
my attention. Being free to do something special with my
life in my own way and to be supported in
that is much harder and lonelier than people think. In

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a very real sense, we are guided by something akin
to the migratory instinct of birds. Birds spend little time
considering whether or not they should go north in summer
and south in winter. When it's time, it's time, and
off they soar, following their instinctive man This is not
so easy for us Homo sapiens with advanced intellect. Our

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imprinting is also strong, but much more difficult to sort out.
It takes time, diligence, and a willingness to take that
important leap of faith.

Speaker 15 (01:04:24):
We also feel the migrational.

Speaker 18 (01:04:26):
Force grow stronger as we close in them our authentic direction.
Then our built in will becomes more useful as it
unites with our true purpose. Perhaps like nothing else, the
everyday genius is drived toward meaningful goals exemplifies the power
of the individual. In today's impersonal business world, where there

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are so many people involved in projects that we don't
even know their names, it's easy to forget that progress
is all about individual effort, whether the work is done
with it a large network or a loan. Many creative
producers who make a positive difference put in innumerable unseen
hours of labor long before their efforts come to light

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for the rest of us to see. The most effective
of them are resolute, hard driving individuals who are not
overwhelmed by setbacks or others skepticism. We can all be
grateful that they dare to invest in and enact their
visions and beliefs. They do so in part because their
very being is permeated with their objective. The fuel that

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powers their initiative is their ability to suspend common sense,
which may render them crazy for a while, something they'd
take and stride until their incredible striving produces something the
world finds credible and creditable. By the mid eighteen hundreds,
Cyrus Field had made a fortune in the paper business.

Speaker 15 (01:05:56):
In the face of.

Speaker 18 (01:05:56):
One disaster after another, Field furnished both the capital and
the drive to take on a project that today would
be left to huge governmental concerns to lay a telegraph
cable across the Atlantic Ocean. His determination and ability to
arouse piqued the interest of scientists who provided the know
how to get the job done. In eighteen sixty six,

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Field's perseverance paid off, and the United States and Europe
were connected by electric signals. He was awarded a Congressional medal.
Yet he didn't stop there, and went on to spend
vast amounts of money and effort to build New York
City's elevated railway system. Field died in eighteen ninety two,

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successful and poor. In a nineteen ninety six interview, financial
wizard Muriel Cybert, and admitted college dropout, said I think
I've spent my life breaking down doors. When I see
a challenge, I put my head down and charge. Her
drive is indeed legendary, taking her all the way from

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a sixty five dollars a week position as a research
analyst trainee at Wall Street's base company to being the
first woman to buy a seat on the New York
Stock Exchange. Despite having the first nine men she approached
to sponsor her to turn her down. It was a
long time after that day in nineteen sixty seven before

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other women would join her. She recalled for ten years.
It was one thoy, three hundred and sixty five men
and me. Cyberg went on to become the first woman
to own a New York Stock exchange brokerage firm. She
has received numerous awards and honorary degrees, and is as
well known for her philanthropy as for her business acumen

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and grass. The Cybert's Entrepreneurial Philanthropic Plan gives fifty percent
of its commissions from certain stocks to charity at its
cumulative donations nearing five million dollars by nineteen ninety seven.
Explains her charitable work as her way of trying to
create a decade of decency. Maggie told her a quite

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different story of contribution as an everyday genius. Maggie, I
don't think what I'm doing is all that special. I've
been going to the neighborhood Free Clinic for thirty two
years now. It's just something that has to be done.

Speaker 13 (01:08:24):
Why me?

Speaker 15 (01:08:26):
Why not me?

Speaker 18 (01:08:27):
The homeless people there might be asking the same questions.
None of us knows the answer to.

Speaker 15 (01:08:33):
All are whys.

Speaker 18 (01:08:34):
My grandmother told me I had good hands for helping,
and that's what I try to do, just to hold
the hand of the sick and dying. It's such a
little thing, really, but it's my work, my reason for
getting up and on my feet in the morning. They
expect my hands to touch theirs, and they need to
feel cared about. That's all there is to it. I

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can still see in their eyes the dreams.

Speaker 15 (01:08:59):
They had for life. I'm not special.

Speaker 18 (01:09:03):
They are fighting to hold on to their dignity, so quiet,
asking for so little, yet deserving as much as the
next person. If my hands can help by changing soiled
sheets or feeding soup pccipit a time, I'm at my
best in some small way. If I can help them

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have a dream of going to the end of life
feeling worthwhile, then I thank them for.

Speaker 15 (01:09:29):
Honoring me with the opportunity.

Speaker 18 (01:09:32):
There is certainly no point in being a person of
vision unless we have the will to act. Daydreams and
inklings about taking our personal mission seriously must be translated
into action or be lost in the dust of could
have but didn't.

Speaker 15 (01:09:48):
As it turns out, we have.

Speaker 18 (01:09:50):
Repeated opportunities to discover our mission and have been favored
with the asset of will to meet the challenge. It
is not will alone, but in spa fired will that
lifts us up an over discouragement. This is the same
driving force that we see in acts of heroism and compassion,
a sense of determination powerful enough to move tremendous obstacles

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while being able to withstand the ravages of repeated conflicts.
Inspired will directs our driven nature so that we may
attempt to turn the gigantic wheel of human progress ever
so slightly. Criticism number two, Where do you get those
wild ideas? New response, straight from the source. If you

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should ever encounter a gifted person who tells you that
her or his creative ideas and meaningful living are the
product of nothing more than intellect and effort, don't believe it.
Such a belief in self alone may last for a while,
especially in early adulthood, yet sooner or later, some manner

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of reorienting experience or trauma shakes things up. When everything
is turned upside down, we feel engulfed in chaos, which
is always the seed bed of creative action. In such
a weakened or humbled state, we recognize the fundamental reason
for our special gifts. Suddenly we come face to face

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with the absolute proof of a strength and purpose greater
than our own. Whether physicist, composer, Wall Street, wizard, or caregiver,
the vast majority of high achievers and self actualizers throughout
the ages have understood that their inspirations and abilities are gifts.
Gifts can only be received given by another, offered with

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care and good intention. In the case of the evolutionary,
the source who gives the gifts does so with an
authorization to deliver them in the service of humankind. One
of my client, it's addressed the difference between intelligence and giftedness.

Speaker 15 (01:12:05):
Jill.

Speaker 18 (01:12:07):
Would Hitler and the Unibonner be considered gifted? Certainly both
men had high IQs. I guess the difference is this
ability used for destruction is not a gift. It's more
like a seductive curse that warps one's vision and destroys
the soul. I think giftedness implies that God was the giver.

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Maybe that's why I was so reluctant to acknowledge my
own abilities and think of myself as gifted.

Speaker 15 (01:12:36):
I guess it was because I.

Speaker 18 (01:12:37):
Sensed the seriousness of the responsibility that comes with them,
the price tag that says I am supposed to use
them well. On the other hand, knowing this frees me
from any self consciousness I might have about being smart
and talented, because I now realize I am just a vehicle.
It's like my body and mind are being used to

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do what people need for the betterment of.

Speaker 15 (01:13:03):
The whole, and I cooberate but can't really take the credit.

Speaker 18 (01:13:08):
I like that because everything I do now has become
a wee thing, not just an eye thing. That makes
everything I try to do so much easier.

Speaker 15 (01:13:20):
In many ways.

Speaker 18 (01:13:21):
The top two criticisms that everyday genius is endured are
the most complex and require the most personally revealing and
least defensive responses. As Jill had discovered, there is no
need to try to manufacture intricate explanations of why we
do what we do and how we do it when
faced with an irritating criticism about where we derive our ideas,

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especially inquiries connected to our divinely designed purpose. We simply
acknowledge that we are near vehicles, point our finger upward,
and smile. Stewart looking back on my life, it's it
seems so foolhardy that for so long I was a
victim of my own ego. I truly believed I had

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to do all the work to come up with the
ideas I needed as an illustrator.

Speaker 15 (01:14:10):
Of children's books.

Speaker 18 (01:14:12):
I remember so many times literally squeezing my head, as
if by doing so the ideas would squirt out the top.
Now it's all so different, so very much easier. What's
really interesting is that deep inside, I don't think I
ever really believed my best inspirations were self propelled. When

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I was a kid, I seemed much more comfortable with
being receptive, doing my part, and then waiting for the
idea bursts to come, which it always did. I don't
know why I worried so much about it later on.
I don't think I could stop having new ideas even
if I tried so. Now that I don't need to

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get so wound up about running out of good ideas,
I can relax into my work, trust the process, and
even glide more easily through the inevitable dry spells where
nothing seems to be happening. Trusting the creative, cooperative process
has not only brought me to new heights in my work,
it has also struck a chord within me. I can

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honestly say that I am a happy man, not just
when things are buzzing along with energy, but in the
quiet moments too, when I can accept my role as
creative vehicle and allow myself to be filled again with
the creative spirit. I've been thinking a lot lately about
a quote from Fourah that I memorized when I was
about twelve.

Speaker 15 (01:15:37):
For the first time, it really makes sense to me.

Speaker 18 (01:15:40):
If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams
and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined,
he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours
criticism number one, who do you think you are? New
response a humble everyday genius called to serve.

Speaker 15 (01:16:06):
Who do you think you are?

Speaker 18 (01:16:07):
Is a fair question, yet it is one most adults,
even the best thinkers, have trouble answering. Perhaps this is
because we are each a work in progress. Perhaps it
is because we have been led to believe that who
we are is equivalent to what we have to show
for ourselves in terms.

Speaker 15 (01:16:25):
Of awards, possessions, and power.

Speaker 18 (01:16:28):
In part, we are a product of our actions and
achievements are relationships and efforts. The self can also be
imagined as those parts of us that are stable over time,
the foundational aspects of our being that may or may
not be observable on the surface of our lives. It
is the bulwark and the pivot point from which the
personality ventures forth in what we may be psychosynthesis.

Speaker 15 (01:16:54):
Teacher Piero Ferucci speaks to the identity question.

Speaker 18 (01:17:00):
Remains the same in ecstasy and despair, in peace and turmoil,
in pain and pleasure, in victory and defeat. Sure Enough,
if we take a look at our psychophysical organism, the
first impression is that there is no such pivot point,
that everything is in a state of continual flocks. To

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begin with, our body is sometimes tired and sometimes full
of energy, healthy or ill, young or old, sleepy or awake,
hungry or satisfy. It certainly isn't an immutable reality. Our
feelings are not permanent either. Through some mysterious illusions, they
sometimes assume a character of changeless presence. But then they

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disappear and other feelings take their place, bringing with them
the same old illusions of permanence. Finally, our thoughts are
not permanent. They pop in and out of our minds,
one after another in a matter of moments. Yet if
we look within ourselves carefully enough, we will find that
there is a permanent element body. Sensations change, feelings fade,

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thoughts flow by, but someone remains to experience this flow.
This someone is the self, the experiencer. The self is
not a reality to be experienced only with closed eyes.

Speaker 15 (01:18:24):
It is a realization that can be retained in the
midst of daily life.

Speaker 18 (01:18:28):
While the self is by definition pure inner silence, it
does not necessarily take us away from our everyday.

Speaker 15 (01:18:35):
Moods and activities.

Speaker 18 (01:18:37):
On the contrary, it can increasingly manifest an effective presence
and self reliance. The most effective way I know to
fly free and release one's exceptional gifts is to detach
from the ego long enough to join forces with the divine.
Humility need never be a prescription for either docility or

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to total self denial. As we know everyday geniuses come
in all types, from Mother Teresa to Michael Jordan, and
they do so for a very good reason when they
are on the right path. The ingenious creations and efforts
of all of them are necessary for progress to unfold.
By giving ourselves the freedom to be a wee in

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our personal missions instead of a lone eye, fears that
we hold in the conscious mind can be overridden, self
doubt in the face of criticism can be disregarded, and
we can learn to control our shaking when we find
ourselves on uncertain ground. By detangling ourselves from the tight

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knots that arise whenever we search for nods of approval.
By trying to explain who we are and why we
are different, and what we are up to, we set
ourselves free in many ways. Embracing our smallness is the
way past society's obstacles. It remind finds me of what
an unforgettable elderly client once told me about why she

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loved getting older. She smiled broadly with the glint of
wisdom in her eyes, and said, just you wait until
you're seventy.

Speaker 15 (01:20:13):
It's the greatest thing. I can do whatever I want.

Speaker 18 (01:20:17):
I can sing in the grocery store, laugh out loud,
walking down the street, wear plaids and stripes together and
say what I want. I've never been so free in
all my life, because I can be me, all of me, merely,
all of the time. And if people don't like it,
I don't care. Besides, I can be as different as

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I want, because the odder I seem, the more everyone
else is willing to pass it off as eccentricity.

Speaker 15 (01:20:46):
And that's where all the fun is.

Speaker 18 (01:20:49):
A fundamental discovery question for many everyday geniuses is this
Is it we who create? Or is it in our
creations that we are made? Furthermore, do we really have
as much choice in the matter as we have come
to believe. Composer igor Stravinsky found himself set upon the

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path of the revolutionary. I was made a revolutionary in
spite of myself. All creation presupposes at its origin a
sort of appetite that is brought on by the foretaste
of discovery. This foretaste of the creative art accompanies the
intuitive grasp of.

Speaker 15 (01:21:28):
An unknown entity that will not take.

Speaker 18 (01:21:31):
Definite shape except by the action of a constantly vigilant technique.
This appetite that is aroused in me at the mere
thought of putting in order musical elements that have attracted.
My attention is not at all a fortuitous thing like inspiration,
but as habitual and periodic, if not as.

Speaker 15 (01:21:50):
Constant, as a natural need.

Speaker 18 (01:21:53):
The very act of putting my work on paper, of
as we say, kneading the dough, is for me in
separable from the pleasure of creation. So far as I
am concerned, I cannot separate the spiritual effort from the
psychological and physical effort. They confront me on the same
level and do not present a hierarchy. What concerns us

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here is not imagination itself, but rather creative imagination, the
faculty that helps us to pass from the level of
conception to the level of realization. In the course of
my labors, I suddenly stumble upon something unexpected.

Speaker 15 (01:22:31):
This unexpected element strikes me. I make note of it
at the proper time I put it to profitable use.

Speaker 18 (01:22:39):
The faculty of creating is never given to us all
by itself.

Speaker 15 (01:22:44):
It always goes hand in hand with the gift of observation.

Speaker 18 (01:22:47):
And the true creator may be recognized by his ability
always to find about him in the commonest and humblest
thing items worthy of note. The least accident holds his
interest and guides his operations. If his finger slips, he
will notice it. On occasion, he may draw profit from
something unforeseen that a momentary lapse reveals to him. One

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does not contrive an accident, One observes it to draw
inspiration therefrom For most of us, evolution is a concept
of mammoth proportion and difficult to contemplate without already supply
of aspirin. Burrowing through the classics and written legacies of
the great minds who have for centuries labored over the

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ways of creativity and the possibilities of humankind might be
suitable for scholars. It goes without saying that study brings
about more questions, which bring about more study, which is
just the right cup of tea for some gifted individuals.
Yet most everyday geniuses have little enough time to reflect

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and contemplate, and may not be inclined to spend too
much time in the library stax in stance search of
discoveries for the greater good. When it comes to our
individual part in evolution, our head can still feel as
though it is spinning.

Speaker 15 (01:24:09):
Off its access.

Speaker 18 (01:24:11):
We are all charged with the task of individual and
collective evolution. We are called by name to figure out
our place in the process and to meet the challenge
with respect and courage. When we are prepared, seeking guideposts
through meditation and inner discovery will reveal our unique design
and dictate our direction. It is not usually a loud

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voice that pronounces what we are to do, so we
must pay close attention to the subtle.

Speaker 15 (01:24:40):
Details of communication.

Speaker 18 (01:24:43):
Our whole self is awakened and expanded as the split
between conscious and unconscious, dreaming and being, and soul and
mind is bridged. The evolutionary experience is more than excitement, achievement,
or happiness.

Speaker 15 (01:24:58):
It is a complete in.

Speaker 18 (01:25:00):
Integration of inner spirit and outer action that fits like
a lock and key with evolutionary purpose. Evolutionary actions go
well with our gifts because they shift humanity towards something
future generations will applaud. Each of us has a specialized
way in which our gifts will be delivered. The way

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we go and the style of our pursuits may be
anonymous or public, traditional or unconventional, soft or hard, colorful
or neutral, together or alone, but go we must or
face stagnation and loss of fulfillment.

Speaker 15 (01:25:38):
The height to which our potentialities are to.

Speaker 18 (01:25:41):
Be realized will be directly related to the development and
expression of our individual nature, not someone else's.

Speaker 15 (01:25:49):
Obscuring and contradicting our intended fulfillment would be a fatal mistake,
and indeed an affront to the divine self.

Speaker 18 (01:25:58):
Realization is by its very nature fraught with risk, yet
it is a welcome risk because it implies unimagined adventures,
particularly the adventures born of the mysteries of mind and spirit.
The call of the evolutionary is not for the faint
of heart, which is why we were created to answer

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it with our special gifts delivered to us for our
development and offering to humanity.

Speaker 15 (01:26:26):
Eleven Meeting the false self.

Speaker 18 (01:26:31):
One's real life is so often the life that one
does not leave Oscar Wilde. The dangers of denying one's
true nature can be very serious, not only because self
denial is a bad choice that causes persistent feelings of
frustration and anxiety, but because inauthenticity threatens one's quality of life.

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At the deepest level. Inauthenticity is a cultivation problem. When
high potential is treated like a neglected tree, thunder fed
and pushed out of the sun, it does not die
off entirely, nor does it thrive and bear wonderful fruit,
it merely survives in an atrophied form, its vibrancy aborted.

Speaker 15 (01:27:17):
Though for a time, ignoring one's.

Speaker 18 (01:27:19):
Gifts may seem the safer bed, in the long run,
trying to pursue a life destined for another offers only
the meager comforts of pseudo confidence and artificial belonging. Over time,
the security blanket of blending in begins to unravel. Because
the everyday genius identity crisis so often occurs at times

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of personal injury or loss, or a mid life it
is easily misjudged as a factor of those experiences alone.
Crises are an invaluable opportunity for the every day genius
to come to grips with the false self, because when
we are vulnerable and confused, the false self right to
the surface.

Speaker 15 (01:28:01):
In full force.

Speaker 18 (01:28:02):
This is exactly what Byron discovered when he was a
victim of corporate downsizing and his thriving career suddenly caved in. Byron,
I'm so stunned about my job loss that I can't
even think straight. I knew the company was in for
a shakeup, but not in a million years did I
ever think the acts would fall on me. Mostly I've

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been treated like the department wonder boy asked Byron, he'll.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Know what to do?

Speaker 18 (01:28:30):
Was the chief problem solving method. And what's really absurd
is their choice about who goes and who stays. The
head of personnel confided in me that, as far as
she's concerned, it's only the idea people who have any
starch in them who are being let go. How does
that make any sense? I know it won't be long
before I find something else, So why am I so undone?

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Because I feel like I woke up yesterday and had
no idea who I was anymore.

Speaker 15 (01:29:00):
I'm forty three years old. How can I not know myself?

Speaker 18 (01:29:04):
I feel like I did when I was in high
school after we lost the big game, slammed up against
the wall with nothing to say for myself. The only
thing that runs through my head is a diatribe that
goes right back to what my father always told me. Byron,
You've got to get your feet on the ground and
learn to go with the flow. Keep a low profile

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and you'll be all right. Stick your neck out too
often and you're likely to get your head chopped off.

Speaker 15 (01:29:32):
That's exactly what I tried to do, and.

Speaker 18 (01:29:34):
It made me miserable a lot of the time, and
here I am, in spite of my efforts to follow
Dad's advice.

Speaker 15 (01:29:41):
Now what do I do.

Speaker 18 (01:29:44):
At critical turning points like Byron's. If we look deep enough,
we will re encounter the lost self underneath the facade
of the false self. By going back through our histories
on a rescue mission, we can rewrite the fictional account
of ourselves that.

Speaker 15 (01:30:00):
For so long we have thought was true.

Speaker 18 (01:30:03):
It is a mission of liberation, fueled by our new
responses to the old criticisms and the willingness to meet
and challenge the false self who has been running the
show far too long.

Speaker 15 (01:30:17):
Meeting the false self.

Speaker 18 (01:30:19):
For many everyday geniuses, meeting the false self can feel
very precarious.

Speaker 15 (01:30:25):
This is especially true for those who are accustomed to
being the other.

Speaker 18 (01:30:29):
The ugly duckling self who insists we will be miserable
unless we think, perceive, and experience the world the way
everybody else does. The outcast, who reminds us that we
have no business believing in idealistic visions or following our
inner agendas. If all else fails, we are often brought
up by the shorthairs for even daring to talk about

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our gifts. After a time, it's nearly impossible to observe
ourselves from an alternative frame of reference, to see ourselves
in any other way than in the straight jacket of conformity.
Without any argument from the external world. The false self
has no trouble taking control an identity. Theft occurs without

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our even knowing it. It is this other self that
has been given all the time, support and experience to
grow and develop habits, while our true self has remained
hidden and dormant. It's easy to understand that when it's
time to shed our surface identity and rescue the lost self,
we can feel very unconfident. Often we are afraid that

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if we look inside, underneath the familiar false self, there.

Speaker 15 (01:31:43):
May be no one there.

Speaker 18 (01:31:46):
This is exactly what the false self wants us to believe.
Because it was established for protection in the first place.
Like many remnants of childhood, this defense is no longer useful,
and in fact, is no longer table. Perhaps the most
powerful weapon of the false self is its last ditch
effort to convince us that we need not bother to

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develop ourselves further. Since our gifts are nothing special after all,
that they are commonplace and inessential. The confrontation between the
true self and the false self takes on an increasingly
negative and deprecating tone whenever we attempt to uncover its agenda. Eventually,

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a full reckoning shows the false self for what it
is and all out effort to bully the every day
genius back into conformity. I had been working with Karl
for about three months before he was ready to take
on his false self. He was motivated by the fact that,
through years of superficial living, he had neglected and dishonored

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his true self, frozen bit by bit over time until
a brittle state of longing had become his most constant companion.
Like so many everyday geniuses, Karl waited for some unexpected
event that would force him to become more genuine and
rescue him from his deepening depression. Karl, I've been thinking

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about those ten criticisms a lot. It's hard to believe
that I never saw them as incorrect or inaccurate. In
some way, I must have always known they were unfair,
because right now I'm experiencing feelings of anger and exasperation
that are probably left over from my childhood. Of course,
I don't say anything out loud, because there's no one

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to complain to now about how I felt all those
times when I was misunderstood and quieted down, which was
my father's idea of behaving properly. That doesn't mean I
haven't felt the urge to express myself fully, basically throw
a tantrum. I have been so afraid of how I
might be perceived, so terrified of rejection, that I ended

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up rejecting myself all that time, all those years of
denial and self blame.

Speaker 15 (01:34:07):
What a waste. It's done me a great deal of
good to review all this.

Speaker 18 (01:34:12):
In my journal, to make sense out of my childhood
with new understanding and compassion. Without that, I'm certain I
would have just felt sorry for myself, like an embittered
and immobilized victim. But by exploring my past from this
vantage point, holding open the door to a freer future,
I found I could trade in my resentment for hope.

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Better Yet, my anger and fear seemed to have turned
into motivation and determination. This may sound odd, but I
think there's been a reunion inside of me. The suppressed,
free spirited nature of my childhood has been reunited with
the independent adult I am now five blocks that enslave

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the self and eclipse the soul. Blocks that very identity
beneath layers of prescribed should and should not behaviors, enslave
the self, veto its gifts, and ultimately eclipse the soul.
Ironically tolerating the false self. Are too long, remaining loyal

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to the given societal script makes us feel increasingly invisible.
The predicament is this, what kind of invisibility is less damaging,
more likely to cure chronic emptiness, hiding the self's light
under a bushel, and pursuing the unfulfilling grind, or resuscitating

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the lost self. There are five primary blocks to recognizing
and accepting the full breadth of everyday genius. Indulging the
false self, denying gifts and talents, avoiding risk in the
safe life, seeking approval imposterism.

Speaker 15 (01:35:59):
Each of these blocks is equally debilitating, but.

Speaker 18 (01:36:02):
With time and effort, we can develop strategies to minimize
their effects. As is so often the case, the first
step entails identifying their presence.

Speaker 15 (01:36:14):
Indulging the false self. This first block to liberation requires
considerable reflection and reframing. A staged life of scripted line
reading may seem interesting and rewarding for a while, but
it is a mismatch of inner and outer satisfaction. Type
casting can indeed feel less threatening and may seem like

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less work, though what it really means is a life
of repetition and limitation what the audience commissions inevitably turns
into a role of feigned normalcy. Challenging past false beliefs
about the self is especially critical for the everyday genius
because mistake in interpretation is so prevalent. Left unchalle plunged,

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these myths will sabotage all future growth. Once we bring
them to the surface, they are available for conscious consideration.
Energy tied up in festering old wounds can be restored.
We must ask ourselves, do my beliefs about who I
am and how I must operate in the world actually

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belong to me? Or did they simply become so familiar
that I never questioned their origin or merit? Which pieces
of my identity feel truly authentic in light of what
I now know about the personalities of gifted people. This
self questioning dovetails with the demistification of the ten criticisms

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and goes even deeper. It's a necessary and cyclical task.

Speaker 18 (01:37:46):
For those committed to self actualization, the questioning and reshaping
process solidifies confidence and supports our choices.

Speaker 15 (01:37:56):
After all, there is no way to.

Speaker 18 (01:37:58):
Be intelligently assertive unless we know who we intend to
be in the world, what we stand for, and why.
Because lifespan research shows that developmental shifts create identity upheaval
about every ten to twelve years, we would be wise
to become practiced in the lifelong habit of taking stock

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and liberating the true self whenever necessary to avoid slipping
back into old self defeating habits. Simply recognizing the modus
operandi of the false self goes a long way towards
stopping the wholesale destruction its self negating words and behavior's cause.
Study the differences between what you know to be true

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about yourself and the false self myths that burden you.
Look for signs of self critical shoulds, regrets, harsh labels
and shaming, comparisons with invisible others who always seem to
be one step ahead. As you listen to the voices
that chatter in your head, try to make out the
tone and attitude. Ask yourself what the hidden agenda behind

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such words might be. Is something in your subconscious truly
trying to protect you or guide you, or is what
you're hearing the harping voice of shamers from your past.
One of the strategies my clients especially like is the
one I call came the tale back on the donkey.
To do this, listen carefully to the words you hear.

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If they are not genuinely productive, useful, and positive, send
them back to the originator eventually, when the Greek chorus
of naysayers fades into the background, What does your true
voice sound like and what has it been waiting to
say to you? Challenge each of these misconceptions and misperceptions

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in turn by developing new, more realistic, and more compassionate comebacks,
as we did with the ten criticisms. Do this when
you are feeling pretty good about yourself and put them
in writing, because when you are once again overcome with
self doubt, the false self will not give way to
counter attacks that are disorganized or flimsy. Select and use

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your own term for giftedness. Settle on synonyms that will
allow you to get past semantics and get on with
embracing the self rescue mission at hand, such as smart, capable, intuitive, visionary, talented, inspired, progressive, mindful, futuristic,
or simply determined.

Speaker 15 (01:40:34):
All are fine choices.

Speaker 18 (01:40:35):
Particularly if they emancipate your thinking from the superior inferior
labeling that threatens your self trust. Stepping out of false
self disguise is considerably easier if you consider the fact
that gifts of intelligence, intuition, vision, and creativity.

Speaker 15 (01:40:53):
Are not optional. They were given and trusted to us
with a plan attached.

Speaker 18 (01:41:00):
Though acknowledging our gifts is a weighty responsibility, it also
lightens our burdens when we accept that we are who
we are with the gifts we were given. That also
means we no longer have to feel guilty about having
something special to offer. None of these gifts comes without
a price we pay as we go, with risk, disheartening disapproval,

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and the emotional toll of making creative contributions in today's world.
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Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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