August 12, 2025 • 97 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're wrong descration. I just started this, so this is
just gonna be just incorrect.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So desecration of.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Holy relics like temples, altars, do you personally feel, you know,
as a human adult.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
In the year of Our Lord twenty twenty five after death.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
For me?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, first of all, material has been stolen from me?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Why?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Truly it's real?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Do you believe.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That the the desecration of a place of worship is
a bad thing?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Absolutely? Why?
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Because it's supposed to be literally a sanctuary of.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Say yes, okay, do you believe if you're going into
another country that you may never have visited before, possibly
and it's a new culture, we'll call it that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Do you believe you should.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
A respect the customer courtesies of culture or b say
fuck it?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Say what we believe is better?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Y'all?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Are some savages kill rpe pillars, desecrate and then say
we're doing it in the name of God?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Which one? We're not sure? But ours? Do you feel
option one makes sense or option two?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I'm gonna go for.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm gonna go for a sure be as what Christians do.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So with that said, would you be surprised if we'll
say hypothetically other gods did exist, that they possibly will
be holding a grudge.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Sure, Oh, I heard I g the other day going
there's all of these verses and the Bible and Christians
are real quick to repeat about how God is a
jealous god. Yes, well, if there are no other gods,
what is he jealous of?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
And I went, oh, it was.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
No. I mean that is to be that.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Is true if there were no other gods, which again
is a good discussion topic because human people for some
reason are under the impression that there has always been
only one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
What is considered a god?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So you, I'm out out of curiosity, what do you
consider what would be criterion?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And I think I've as what would be criterion? No
matter change? Would you say, what.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Criteria would an entity need to have to say this
is a qualification for gods?
Speaker 6 (03:00):
God shah, try not to immortality?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Immortality?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Okay, but what is immortality since basically you can't kill
off nobody nowadays because we got technology.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's what I'm like, if we're talking about godship.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Immortality, humans have all I think have achieved it technically, I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Gonna go for that, and I'm gonna say immortality.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Okay, that's one I'm telling you they have.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But go ahead, wait, hold on real quick. What is immortality?
Because maybe we need to I need to make sure
that me and you are You may have a different
interpretation of immortality than me, so I want to make
sure that I'm working within your framework.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
So what is immortality or spirit?
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Whatever the physical manifestation of said god is.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It does never disappear?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Okay, so does immortality? Also insinuates that they don't age
or they got to a certain age, and then you stop. Yes, okay, rude,
all right, wait, so rampires will be considered under the Wait, no,
I'm sorry, jump too far, immortality continue?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Supreme power?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
What a supreme power? Get out my face?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Are the supersedes human ability?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Give them to give some examples.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That's something that cause humans can do some quote unquote extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Things, you know, some fringes. So that's what I'm saying.
What would what would have to they'd have what would
have to be.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So you'd have to take the fringe into the account
of what fringe humans can do, like peak human strengths,
pink intelligence, all the other stuff, and then that jump
that would say nope, that's higher.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So that's what I'm saying to me.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
For example, well, if you go in the framework of
the Christians, that would be there, all knowing, all seeing,
omni present, can be everywhere, know everything all the time.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
An example would be, uh, what did Poseidon do?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Didn't he like raise the ocean or some shit?
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Gosh, I'm getting my my stories mixed, I said, I'm
trying to remember what Poseidon did?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Didn't he like raise the ocean or some shit?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What fuck called the earth quests?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Like yeah, I mean I mean like commands, yes, commands
like literally the yes, yes, ship like that. Okay, So
what I'm saying, like like throwing lightning bolts at chick Okay,
so like super extraordinary thing, yes, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Making something out of nothing? I guess would that be equivalent.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Your stuff is too close to me?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Can you see you if you move?
Speaker 9 (06:15):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Why have you put it on this side? Why don't
you put it on that side?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Because he keep knocking it? Smack him.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Watch this, I'm gonna I'm gonna put it on this
Side's gonna knock it over, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
He can't help himself, hey see.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And then the other he just popped up again. This
is a this is a psycho path.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He knows he's yours. Why they're all right, go ahead,
stay there. I'm gonna see how long you actually stayed there.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
They're both yours.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
But yeah, so far exceeds human strength and ability.
Speaker 10 (06:50):
That's all I.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Got, all right, So our humans almost there.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
In my opinion, though, what's.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I'm curious, So with.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
All the AI chips, with the enhancements, with like mechanical.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Limbs and being able to regenerate and being able to.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Make pain almost nonexistent and slow down the aging process,
you know, with like collagen and all your other things,
you're saying that they're so far from godship.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
In my opinion is, do you think that's by design?
As in humans can only go so far or only
allowed to go so far?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
No, not necessarily, I think just go, just go.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Foundation of Economics Adam Smith's invisible hand is because they're
fucking greedy, and every time they get close, I think
they will self destruct. I don't think that they will
ever be able to do it, because there is this
insane need that drives them to end up being the
cause of their own self destruction.
Speaker 10 (08:14):
That is my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Hmmm.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So you're saying that if they actually were able to
stay outside themselves and not be humans for five seconds,
there's actually a possibility they could reach godhood. Not because
humans are going to human they're always gona end U,
getting in their own way.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And self destructing. Correct, I e AI is gonna take over, so.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
All of the both correct? I agree?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, purely because of economics.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I like we have said many times, I think that
I think that, yes, it is about money until you
get to a certain point, and then the people above
the threshold where money is no longer impactful, it's about power,
and in both scenarios, yes, I believe that they self.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Destruct right now, I agree.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So with that said, would it be fair to say
that the creator of humans would want humans to play
(09:34):
a game in order to get to whatever the event
state that they're.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Supposed to gas We haven't finished. I'm sorry, carry on.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I said, Would it makes sense that the creator of
humans would make it out to be a game to
get to I guess Heaven or whatever end state that
humans are supposed to get to?
Speaker 10 (09:57):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Okay, Why.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Why would humans expect that a game creator or a
creator of a game, or a creator of a test
would intervene in anything as opposed to you know the
general rules of the game, and if you move accordingly,
(10:27):
generally speaking, you'll get to the end state no matter.
I'm not gonna tell you how to do it. I'm
gonna say there is an end state that you're trying
to get to. I'm not saying you have to go
any specific direction. I can give you guidelines, and I
can say if you go this direction, you will absolutely
get there. It may not be the most ideal, it
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may not be the most comfortable, but it will guarantee
you one hundred percent you will get to the end
state that you will prefer to go to. You personally,
I don't give a damn what you do. God I'm
good damn with you at the.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
End of the day. But if the purpose of you
is to do X.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Y Z and get to a certain state, I'm gonna
give you a blueprint because I created your stupid ass
how to get to a certain state.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But if you don't earn your way there, and you're.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Gonna stay with the hell you at because you ain't
good enough. I'm curious on humans who are literally born
and bred to compete from the beginning of time. Everything
was a godpetition. At least his niggas was created. I mean,
caya neighbors, because Adam, and you've already learned that humans
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was ancient with that or I was already proving like
every every disembodied spirit or God or whoever was there
before humans as soon as they saw this flaw fuck
up looking at the garden, saying looking at God like
and you said perfection.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You made a privative, and you thought these fools gonna
have some sense. First sign, first first test. They've failed.
Maybe they'll learned.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
They won't. He cleared the boards. In the same chapter
with No, He's like, I couldn't find nobody. Listen, you
gonna build a boat. What's the boat?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And your family were living about to wipe everybody out?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know what, I'll figure out what the boat is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
No, back in the day when people actually paying attention
to God had like was going back and forth with people.
So if we're already gonna know that humans are defective
by very creation, therefore it's like you kicked out of
eternal life or eating or whatever the hell. Now you've
got to go in the world and figure it out
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in order to earn your way back in. Wouldn't that
logically make sense though, that you would have to earn
your way back into summer you got kicked outcause you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Follow the rules. Sure, okay, so we're.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Gonna build off of that simple premise. Why would people
be surprised the God?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
How could God look war happen? How could God let
this happen.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
When he has created the blueprint of flawed human Floyd,
human has been doing flawed human things since the beginning
of the time.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Okay, But humans have an issue with accountability and with
self reflect with critical self reflection. That is something that
is known. So the question seems strange to me because
that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
No how because I understand self reflection. But my argument
is always that humans are inherently narcissistic, because only a
narcissist who is one of ten billion people allegedly would
say the creator of the entire human race is focusing
(14:01):
on me specifically.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Okay, but are narcissi's accountable? Is that one of their
court RAITs? Like again, this is why the question doesn't
make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
But it begs dull even when it comes to narcisst's
accountability why would you assume that you would just be
going over because of your existence.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Because that is easier to digest than reality.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But realistically it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
But none of them wake up in the morning to
say that they want to live in reality.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
They all talk about the ideal, the utopia.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Fiction exists, absolutely, but I agree with you. Fiction does exist,
and in fiction literally there's a protagonist and antagonist.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And just always go.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
The whole point of the story is that des trying
to do something. Well, it's fall in love with the
raglary Ass Briss Slayer, raglary Ass Dragon, learn raglar as Magic.
There's a goal and the goal is, like you start here,
and they're supposed to be growth, character growth. You know
shit that movies nowadays don't even understand.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Character development.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Now, I understand that generally speaking, humans have a main
character syndrome. That is fine, everybody's supposed to be in
charge of their own damn story.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
The thing is with that comes the whole journey.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And the assumption that you, being the level one player
that you are, is just gonna go up to the
dragon with these hands and you can barely breathe going
up the steps is insane. That's why I'm saying, there
comes a point where I understand delusion. I understand certain things,
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but there's a literal part of reality where it's.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Like no logical response and there isn't one. So clearly
you don't.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Know, because I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And done just before religious, we're just talking to atheists. Now,
this is just atheism based on whatever, and they're saying
they ain't no instant and not just got here by
Adams bar shut up. That's why you can't take atheists
seriously because nine times out of ten they're intelligence stops
at science, which none of them are proficient in.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
None of them.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I have never seen an actual atheist with a doctorate
in quantum physics.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
None, one, none, Because.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
First of all, I'm unfortunately educated enough, even though I
didn't want to be to actually know what these two
motherfuckers are credential did, and when I technically have more
degrees than these people who have all these doctors because
they just focused in one area, then it's easy to see.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So once you get into so the whole. So the
basics of physics is one. You get past the basics
of physics, everything is theory, which is why I'm saying
is a grift. I mean a scam that university of
everybody's paying all these damn physicists to do all this
shit in which they're all coming to the same conclusion
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that they haven't I don't know, Like at the end
of the day they go to bed knowing that they
got one hundreds of thousands of dollars just to say.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay with that said, these are the greed individuals who
actually took time to study it. And then you have atheists,
but very few of them, if any, are actually atheists,
because if you get to the point of I don't know,
you're like, yeah, something lily bigger than me has figured
gotten this together. So I'm just gonna spend my rest
of my life trying to figure out what it is.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
There's a loophole, there's a term, I forget what it
is for when you get to.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That point out of the gaps, yes, and there's it's
a theory in there. And most people hate God the
gap theory because like.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It cam'p is just got it got to be more.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And yet these are the people without the degrees trying
to do this.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But mind, did you use the same people to say
the earth is flat.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And when you argue with these people, you'll surprisingly get
a headache because they'll start saying things and make you
start questioning your sanity because no, because they'll actually say
stupid ship. And then it'll you'll have to like stop
and think why am I here? And how did I
get here? And how did life take me here? And
why why.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Do they exist?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So a lot of questions at the same time when
they're sitting and saying there's no there's a firmament above
the world, and you're like, that's not true because you
already know simple things like I don't know sun rays.
So the way glass works, or firmament as they call it,
is that if the sun shine through glass or a
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clear object, even water, which is a clear reflective I'm
getting a headache. I'm getting I'm getting gas lit. I
can't do it. So the way rainbows have.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Oh that's my next one time, I want to capture
a rainbow.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
I have never captured a rainbow film.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, yes, he loves me, and they followed me on Instagram.
Speaker 10 (19:09):
And they attack me.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, well they they're they fueled in narcism. I'm speaking
of you.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Know, I wish they would have left in on that
clip when they posted it.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, that was no, because.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Right when the song starts, I screamed, they need to
edit out all of my foolish discs because that's how
most of these damn shows go because I don't be editating.
But I also goowed to take the back sea because
it is Damn's tank. And I'm just so glad that
he was the one actually doing a whole bunch of
(19:43):
the talking cause I could just play Robin and he
could do the Batman thing design back these foods.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So yeah, that's why I would just that's.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Always been my my question about decreation of humanities. Why
would you think that you wanna that any higher power
deity will want to be around you ragging them?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Have y'all seen it, y'allself?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Like, why would anything of the divine want to deal
with humanity?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That's ridiculous. Keep them down there. I would absolutely understand
the choices.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Americans are notoriously self important.
Speaker 10 (20:17):
Again, I'm not sure why you.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And now we're an how're doing regional stuff?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Because that's even more frustrating that hmm. And actually an
actual pagan country is showing yourself with Christian Nation. But
those are things that we will never get to the
bottom of because no, I'm just saying if you got
if you got the ile horrors on the money and
then saying God we trust, it's no conflicting message me personally.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
We could make like a tea out of it, like
where it could be like not a tincture, but like
you know, like like a therapeutic tea out of what
like with the lemonade that you made, get like a
half and half and put but used honey as a sweetener.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Sugar just ugh, Nope, I agree.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I'm sorry carry.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Nope, You're right, cause that's what I would cause usually
that crap was usually so sweet.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I didn't have to put any fucking sugar or anything
even in the tea. I could like just make s
trade tea and like just put that stuff in the
almost like creamer. Mm. So yeah, pre made lemon tea
and then it has that blueberry thing. So it was
like for these fancy holes who like all these fancy
teas and shit.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
So yeah, the holes you like the blue ones.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Listen, bougie holes know how to take care of they pussy. Listen,
Like you said, buzzy jas and smell different depending on
your intake. So, bitch, who be just drinking like a
whole bunch of tea and whatnot for some reason, they
pussy don't have like that.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I'm going through a whole bunch of struggle over it.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
And you don't know, for whatever reason, if we made
it eight months out or whatever, and you didn't wanna
do the West Virginia or you wanted to do some
you know, Cockeysville for a while or something, that'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
We figured it out.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Like I said, I'll be fine with like Hackeysville or
tonight is keep calling Tonight, Simony whatever. Like I'm just saying,
like there are like little places up there that's.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Over fold like cool a year from now. No, I'm
saying that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I say, when I'm looking at that area, I'm like,
I wouldn't be it'd be cool doing that. It wouldn't
be super crazy from like addition from your job.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Actually, I think it'd be closer.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
And it's not closer. Oh you're talking about that.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yes, No, it's not closer to either, Joe. From here,
it's thirteen minutes from here. It's obviously it wouldn't be closer.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's fifteen minutes without the city. That's no, I'm saying.
From Cockysville, it's fifteen minutes from Timodi.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's like ten antway. No, I'm telling you, cause like exit,
I swum, like I clocked it.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's what I'm like.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I know, it's thirty minutes all together. It's fifteen minutes
from there. From Cockeysville to your job, it's like ten
minutes from I think seven to ten minutes of work
like that from Congressville to Timonia whatever like that.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Ooh, the Steelers are about to put it, are about
to put it away, about to win. But we can
talk about it after court, because then we can get
to the point where we can actually start making some goals.
You may not even still wanna be there, you may
wanna do something else, But right now, we gonna let
you have your moment.
Speaker 10 (23:19):
You can focus on that.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
And we'll talk about that later. It just popped in
my head. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I did not mean to be detracting from your wild
ass self.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Important humans who you are trying to figure out as
if they're logical. But here we are Okay, we're back.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I'm not saying humans are logical.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I'm just saying you're trying to logic it.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
You're trying to make it make sense, and it is
not going to make sense. They are contradictory on their face.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But why.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It don't make sa What good does it do? What
good does this delusion due to anybody? Because all it
does is have Jasmine Crockett in the The woman has
a lazy eye that in itself should just qualify her
from public office. We wouldn't put Forrest Whilaker in public
office because the photographs.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Would be distracted from policy.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
But I saw this business face and she had a smile,
and that I was moving over to the right.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I said, what is a happening?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And the eyelashes make it worse to bring attention to
her little I gotta ask, and then you gotta be
never to be cock goed and disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Stop bigger struggle with.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
The client who was hyping her up.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, you can't be cock god and disrespectful and wrong.
This fool talking about segregation going to a damn private school, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Go away like.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
They don't actually they don't actually elect anybody who's actually
she's working class legitimately because they know they burned the
old system down. But the certain things that's by design,
and I understand that. But when we talk about this
old religiosity nonsense, it's just frustrating because I'm trying to
(25:11):
understand why, why do you want to believe? Why do
you even want to go up there? You ain't got
no business up there. You don't really got no business
up there. Why didn't want to go to him and
just be staring at God all day?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Like? Why that's a little weird.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
That's why God would be similar to would feel like
a supermodel, as in he's trying to walk by these
people just gawking and staring like that would just be uncomfortable,
I believe personally, so I could see why deities wouldn't
interact with humans because of just the staring.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You saw what happened to hold Sodom and Gomore thing.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
They tried to fuck the angels These niggas is nuts,
they said, they pretty let me get that ass.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Why is that the first thought? That's humans?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
For you?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
In this purest ron's form, anything pretty gotta fuck it,
male or female, unhinged. That's why I keep saying, the
fact that sex is the beginning and ending for most
human interactions, especially human adult interactions, is crazy to me.
That's why most of the motherfuckers can't hold a fucking conversation,
(26:23):
especially these goofy niggas.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
I wonder if squat gigs was gonna be scary, huh.
I wonder if Dam's gonna be scared.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Listen, this motherfucker out here saving babies or bitches who
died like you shoulda been like, fuck that baby.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Wait, the bitch died. You went past where I was.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I didn't. You was paying attention.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You was literally paying attention, but you was also preoccupied
with stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
But I ain't gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
The point is I was paying attention and you was
listening and hearing it.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You may not be paid attention.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
But yeah, yeah, I didn't get to the park where
Trick died.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Why please knock it over, Please knock over the phone.
I told you, Why are you here? He wants you
say so, you know it's there.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Can you move either way?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
But while we here, let's have a let's do some
straight up comedy. So there's an individual who has lost
to goddamn mind that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
She needs to stop.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
This woman is too old for this, This woman his children,
This woman is clinically insane. She needs to leave everybody
alone but sit and she won't. This is what's going
to happen. We're now going to deal with what we
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like to go to say, go back.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Him, let me don't log you on.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Wait, so did you finish Square Games?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I did not.
Speaker 12 (28:49):
I don't wanna be scared, though, maybe I'll watch it tomorrow.
Didn't you say we have some oath or something to do.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
The whole thing? Yes, we got the whole thing?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Oh goodness, oh my, oh, why why are we doing this?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Wait?
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Turn out that thing down.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
You gotta live up now it's going on.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Really, don't tell me. They blocked it everything shit.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
As they should.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Y'all.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Wanna see that ship?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
What do you mean it couldn't be playing denut ovens,
others out here blocking media getting together.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, I need somebody to have gotten this, y'all here.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
Just I was out here just saying anything, and I
need need before the bab others ain't shit, ain't never
gonna be shit, damn, saying and took down of his debate.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Why could not be played that wasn't that the big
that was tragedy captured.
Speaker 14 (30:14):
On five.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Others won't be stupid, alright, gonna have two one two
anti semitis right now, the hell's happening.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
That's if somebody finna stop.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
This from happening. Night sounds wondering, I.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Know, see this is Hey, what's the problem.
Speaker 14 (31:00):
Oh you know what?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Fine, everybody want to be all right, See that's the problem.
Everybody won't be a hater.
Speaker 15 (31:07):
I'm trying to do the law's works. And the problem is,
I'm so grateful that you're here.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 16 (31:25):
With child number four in toe it's just off camera.
What's going on with Macrone?
Speaker 17 (31:31):
I mean, it's the craziest thing that's ever happened.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
So Ovens is cland is Ovens. Ovens is being sued
by the French president's wife, who she keep calling a man.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Ovens made like a five part documentary about this woman.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's a grown man, and it has probably like five
to six million total views.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Alright, Why the president is sick of her shit and
has said bab He's been saying this for like a
Jesus like a year. He's been fucking with them because
she has nothing to do. This bitch has had kids,
and it's out here saying I'm now going to be
going against not old the Jews, but the French president's
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wife and call her a man because it's weird that
she's an old woman and he's a young man and
she he groomed. She groomed him because she was apparently
forty when he was like seventeen or fifteen, and they
started being in a relationship with some shit.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't know either way.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Ovens is out here telling the telling, the basically telling
the world. All they need to do is show us
her birth certificate and I'll stop.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'm like, first of all, Ovens, who the fuck are you?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It's y'all downsty for me.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
She's like, I would stop doing all this if she
just showed the birth satific or show some baby pitchures.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I'm like, out of your president's handbook. No oh, oh,
where's the note?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Where's the real quick?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, Donald jehosaphat Jerome Trump asked ask Barack Hussein Obs
for his birth certificate. Those are two fools going at it.
Who was in the same country.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
This bitch is fools. Barock didn't ask for that ship
actually did. We can talk about that right now. There's
the whole thing. But, like I said, two fools in
the political space doing this within country. This is America.
Dumb shit, So American shit. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
We all know American people are stupid. What you're not
about to do? Talk shit about and shoot across the pond.
They fire back with a lawsuit and you key saying
freedom of speech. That's not how that works. It don't
work internationally. That's like if you're selling that's like if
you're selling drugs in a drug sorry, yes, She's like
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they can't get me no, because literally if she crosses
over in the in the France.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
She's literally going right behind like it's that serious, as in,
they got.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
A warrants and she's doubling down. She could have she
could have stopped anytime. She could have been like you
know what, I was fucking round.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
She not really a man or. I might believe that,
but I'm just gonna leave alone. I got kissed.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Let me focus on somebody else. Nope, she is not
only saying bb Netting, y'all, who is a demon? She's
saying he's a demon, and that the French president's wife
is a man.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
This woman is trying to.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
And she's like, if I didn't die, I'm like Epstein,
I'm like, you trying your best to make yourself important
than you an idiot though, And then we got talking Carlson,
who's actually somebody who supports Russian He's like, know what.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
So much time you were supposed to be like.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Wax and doing the thing, because last time I did,
I gave myself muddy chops because when I pulled the
wax off.
Speaker 17 (35:14):
It was certainly in my life, it's it's been repeatedly crazy,
from the Trump call to the lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I didn't even know you just back up.
Speaker 16 (35:23):
A little bit for those who don't know what you're
referring to the Trump call heavy.
Speaker 17 (35:27):
So I was called by Trump in February, Emmanuel Macrone
had visited Trump and I had done this series about
It was about his wife, Brigitte Macrone, and the series
got a lot of use, and Emmanuel Macron personally flew
to DC and asked Trump to ask me to shut up,
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to just stop speaking about his wife.
Speaker 16 (35:53):
And was going to rise the level of international incident.
Speaker 17 (35:56):
No, and it's actually making me go back and historically
I'm thinking you know all the times we were told
that a war ended because of this or because of that.
If this was one element of negotiation of Emmanuel mal
Cron to Trump and the topic of why he was
you know, ostensibly there was to discuss the end of
the Ukrainian and Russian War. But you're taking Trump aside
and you're asking him to shut up this podcast or
in the US. I'm wondering if anything that we're told
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in our history books is real.
Speaker 16 (36:21):
That is exactly right. I have wondered the same. That
is just absolutely amazing. So he's a viewer.
Speaker 17 (36:49):
We know that he is a viewer. Him and his
wife and their entire entourage. They watch every minute of
my show. Trump certainly didn't I know Trump, I think
stays much more in the mainstream media. Yes, in terms
of watching what he watches.
Speaker 16 (37:02):
But he must have been completelyused.
Speaker 17 (37:04):
He sounded to be very confused. He said he was
very confused when a leader of the leader of France.
Speaker 16 (37:11):
Took him aside clear armed county mm hmmm.
Speaker 17 (37:14):
During negotiations for Ukraine and Russia to inquire about whether
or not he knew Canastons. And clearly it was an
emergency because it wasn't like Trump called me two days
after or a week after. It wasn't like, you know,
a side conversation that, oh, let's take care of that.
I was messaged by the intermediary hours after Macron left,
(37:34):
maybe even an hour after Macron had left, and said, like,
we need to get on the phone with you.
Speaker 16 (37:40):
The president of the United States.
Speaker 17 (37:41):
Well, first, the person said, somebody very close to the
President United States is asking me to ask you to
stop talking about Brigitte's penis.
Speaker 16 (37:50):
And I this is this is the true face of diplomacy.
Speaker 17 (37:54):
I love that true face diploma. And I laughed because
I said, Okay, no, bye, this seems ridiculous. Kind of didn't.
I kind of question whether or not it was even true.
But I liked the person who called me very much,
and I thought maybe just being a bit short there,
because I'm nine months pregnant and I'm or I was
at the time, I think five or six months pregnant,
and I tend to get short the more pregnant I become.
And so I called him back and I just said,
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can you explain to me what's really going on? And
that individual told me that it was presented to him
as a condition of ending the Russian Ukrainian War, like
this was something that he brought up in the midst
of these negotiations. That's how it was, presents me from
a third party person. And then I was just completely floored,
and I just took a second look to my husband
(38:38):
and the first thing we said to one another is
no one will ever believe us, Like this is beyond
the realm of things that could be plausible, either going
to think I'm making this up, that I'm lying, and
even when I did eventually tell the story months later,
people like this, there's no way that this could have happened,
and until Trump didn't deny it. And then, of course
(39:01):
the Emmanuel Malcron is now suing me, and he included
as a part of a lawsuit he referred to that
phone call and how he believes that presenting it as
an element of the Ukraine Russian War was wrong, Like
he was like, and so he's nitpicking there.
Speaker 16 (39:14):
But so what is he suing you over? What is
the suit claim?
Speaker 17 (39:18):
Well, it claims a lot. It's two hundred pages, two
hundred pages, two hundred pages. And what's really interesting is
my series was based on a book I worked with
Xavier Pussard, who is a journalist, a very credible journal
journalist in France, who worked on the story for eight
years and ended up having to move to Italy, move
his family to Italy because of what Brigitte and her husband.
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You know, France is a whole different political system, and
they can just bring charges.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
Against Bitarian country run completely by Macron and they pretend
that's countrue, but it is true.
Speaker 17 (39:48):
It is one thousand percent true. And so journalists that
first got wise to the fact that Brigitte Macron kind
of didn't exist for thirty years of her life were
harassed by the government. They filed charges against them for
first and foremost invasion of privacy. So there was ever
a dispute when she was bringing these charges about She
never bought a charge against people for saying that she
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was born in Man. And that's what should be made
clear to everybody, like that's not something that they ever
say is not true when it comes down to the
legality of it all going again.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
And then I am turning off my ears before it
just foolishous. First question, is it France an ally of
the US?
Speaker 7 (40:32):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Second question, is France specifically is this for your own
edification and a little bit of military infel intelligence community
type information. So there's something called five eyes.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
You may have heard in passing, but five eyes mean
five eyes partners or five eyes that can look at
certain types of classified information. So when you're doing some
type of.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Production of intelligence or whatever like that, and you label
it five eyes, that means there are five individual countries
that are able to look at the same type of
classified information because they're trusted partners.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Those five people are Great.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Britain, New Zealand, Australia, Wait, Grea Britain, New Zealand, Australia.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
France, and who's the other one?
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Shit?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
What one more?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Anyway, France is absolutely one. So I don't know why
they're saying these words. I don't know why you would
say that France is in authoritarian in the state. I
don't know why we're pretending that Friends has not been
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a partner. Well, I don't know why we're pretending that
France isn't half of the reason why America is America.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
But okay, yeah, so that's why.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Is it relevant if the chick was born a man?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Nope, Okay, I'm done.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
That was it.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
That's all that's all of my equal breath.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
No real quick.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Why Ovens feels it's relevant is because Ovens feels that.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Truth is important. Let you let that marinate for a second.
And because truth is important.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
If individual was a man, then they should identify themselves one.
To her mind, you this isn't affecting anybody else, This
isn't affecting her life at all.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
It's almost as if she's not even in the country.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
This has anything to do with its actually as if
none of this is a damn business, which you will
probably be one hundred percent correct in.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
But as a freedom fighter for what caused anti.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Semitic causes, she feels that she must reveal the truth
of a man's wife and to her allegedly husband. Therefore,
she must make documentaries and investigative journalism about the wife
of the French leader, because you know, we like.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
Present herself on a platform about domestic interest only and
that the international things were taking away true for not.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
True for the yes Trump, so Donald Trump's to stay
out of Iran, but she should be in the personal
bin for France. Absolutely, you're all one hundred percent correct.
We should absolutely not support Israel, but we should absolutely
be in the pants of the wife of the French president,
because we are focused on domestic issues only.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
You're absolutely correct, okay, the courtrooms.
Speaker 17 (44:23):
But they first sued for invasion of privacy. Then they
sued for defamation regarding a statement and error that the
woman had made investigating when she said, in my opinion,
you know this document is fake. But that document actually
was real. It was a birth certificate relating to somebody
in the story, and so it was remarkably petty. And
this is what they do. They get very legalistic. We'll
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keep you in the courtroom, will harass you. And for
Xavier things were happening where it was, they wanted him
to know that they were following him and that the
Secret Service was keep keeping an eye on him. They
never actually brought a suit against him until recently, at
the same time as mine. They're not suing a reformation,
even though he's the author of the book that I
based my entire series on. They are instead suing him
for cyber bullying.
Speaker 16 (45:06):
Cyber bullying ahead of state.
Speaker 9 (45:09):
I should just say, because it's true that the French
intelligence services everyone makes fun of France is incompetent and weak,
but their intel services are not incompetent or weak, and
after probably Cia Masaud, maybe the Russian intel.
Speaker 16 (45:23):
Services, like they are feared, and they should be feared.
They are feared, they are.
Speaker 9 (45:27):
Feared that they're very competent, they're violent, documented that killed people,
and they're nothing to play with.
Speaker 17 (45:33):
Really, right, that's why he picked up his family and
he moved.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
I get it.
Speaker 17 (45:36):
And so it was this tremendous act of bravery that
he did this, you know, putting not just his life
on the line, of the life of his wife and
his children, because the story here was so demented and
so twisted, and just also the broader consideration that you
could have an entire state colluding to protect a secret
of that magnitude. And what's so compelling about this story,
and I get into this in the first episode of
(45:57):
Becoming Brigitte, is that by the time it made us
way to the English speaking role, people thought that this
was like a as always far right conspiracy dug up
from the trenches of Reddit, And that's not what happened
at all.
Speaker 16 (46:08):
You know.
Speaker 17 (46:08):
The story begins with Emmanuel Macrone and his wife is
actually the journalists, the left leaning journalists, the continentac journalists
who wanted to celebrate Brigitte, wanted to do documentaries on Brigitte.
This wonderful woman is now empowered and what is she
going to do? And they were kind of getting threatened.
They were told to come to the Lys Palace and
there's only one person that they could talk to. They
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couldn't find or verify anything about Brigitte's history or Brigitte's past,
and they sort of fell down the whole loom were like,
I don't know why I suddenly feel like I've done
something wrong for asking basic questions about the First Lady
of France. And so that's kind of where the series begins,
and it kind of takes you through what they went
through and what many people have gone through since just
trying to learn anything about the First Lady.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
So to be clear, one last night, she and all
of her pseudo intelligence, yeah, just said to her audience
that she does not that she is sympathizing with the
(47:15):
journalists MM who unasked and unprovoked, tried to make the
First Lady of Friends and LGBTQ icon without her permission.
Speaker 5 (47:29):
Has no idea why they did anything wrong or why
that wasn't well received. I just want to make sure
that that is what I heard.
Speaker 14 (47:39):
She said.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
They had good intentions.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Therefore, that was a crazy response from the first lady
because this person was trying to put her in a
positive light, even though they didn't ask the permission of
the first lady, or they didn't even ask what's going
to be in said presentation, or they didn't even say
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this person could have an access to any type.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Of information that they may have learned about the first lady.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
So it almost seemed like an invasion of privacy, possibly
if nobody actually gave permission to do these type of things,
even if allegedly the initial point of it was well intentioned.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
So now this from the same person who argued with
Nick Colin says about whether or not she had ever
met him, when on Twitter she had actually said it
years prior.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Conveniently, for Good doubled down on her argument, said it was.
Speaker 6 (48:41):
About somebody else that she was it was instead bring
her personal information.
Speaker 5 (48:47):
Doesn't understand any of this, Okay, Okay, I'm gonna put
on my HiPhones because I can't.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I realized that when people say this is the thing,
I guess that's a normal thing. I guess the defense
that if you say you've never met somebody, because Kat
Williams did this too, and it was weird because he
did it.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
To Raphael's a D. I mean Noel, I mean Allas
a D.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Cause it's a weird thing that people do when they're like,
I'm bigger than somebody and they trying to look down
on them, like, oh, I don't really know them. I
never met him, I don't know him like that, and
then like, no, we've actually talked before. I'm like, I'm
not saying we were friends, but I'm saying you can't
say to somebody that you don't know who I am,
but we've actually interacted before, Like no, But what I
(49:33):
meant was like, we're not friends, Like no, no, no,
stop that.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
You know that's not what they meant. They said, have
you heard or have talked about this before? Like, no,
met him in my life.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
You can't say that, even if you've said something in passing,
like you can't say that, and she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Understand, and she didn't. But this isn't only her thing.
I've noticed. It's a thing people would do.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
When That's why I said Katwilliams to do, like I mean, yeah, okay,
so this is the story I can I'm okay, I
did know him. I mean he was in the same spot,
and like, wait, that wasn't a story. The story was
like you've never even heard of this person. And then
you're like, wait, okay, so I gave him money. Wait
then how would you know like he was entitled? Wait,
how would you know he's entitled if you never met him.
That's what I'm like, why are people doing this weird thing?
(50:16):
And at first I was I didn't know what it was,
but it's really that's why I'm like, it seems pretentious
because you're like, I don't know this person, Like okay,
because you could simply because you don't even got to
go into it. You can be like, oh, yeah, I
might have talked to him in past it and be
done with it. Like there's not even you could like
deflect every other invent like invasive question after that, saying
(50:39):
do you know the possibly Like no, I just talked
to him in passing, Like that's it, Like I'm going
too much deeper than and you could just keep going
off of that and be done with it. But it's
like they're so afraid to even be quote unquote associated
with somebody at a time.
Speaker 6 (50:52):
I'm like, it is exactly what you said first, which
is it is a pretentious thing.
Speaker 5 (50:59):
I am bigger than you. You don't even come across
my radar. Who are you peasant down there?
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Because even I was listening to the Ovens this morning
when she was listening talking to the gay gay man,
who all of.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
A sudden, those two ities sound insane.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
But Ovens was like at the end, like, yeah, I
was like safeguarding you because I found out that the
gay man now works directly for Kanye. So there we go,
and apparently Ovens was the gatekeeper, and apparently they had
beef in the pass and he's like, he's like, yeah,
I just didn't think that you were good for Yay's image,
(51:35):
and I wasn't really sure.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
This talentless hack.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Let's talking and he's like yeah, but we got over it.
And when she found out that we found out both
y'all's anthezemitic.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
But that's not the point. The point is I'm like,
she's one of those who you can't give even a
tiny bit of power, Like.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
You can't even you can't even make her a shift
manager at McDonald's. She's the type who will say she
ran the franchise on the whole South side of the
United States. Yeah, correct, And she's got a purple shirt
like she out here saying like, oh I run all this,
(52:29):
Oh you mean to start now this whole division?
Speaker 2 (52:32):
What how long you been there? Two weeks? And you
can't talk her out of it. You can't talk her down.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
Because talking to a black on that's I'm like, was
I'm like, how the hell you use the defense because
that's what I'm like, this whole sword and shield thing
that she used the Bible because why she's gonna start
dropping Christ real quick, and these two are gonna start
speaking real.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Bibly real quick, and you're gonna be like, weren't that?
Speaker 12 (53:02):
Like you?
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Is this the ant? Like what is happening right now?
Speaker 5 (53:06):
I can't, I can't, I can't. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 10 (53:10):
You're trying to stress me out.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
To be clear, this was posted eight days ago and
had three point six million views.
Speaker 9 (53:16):
I shall not particularly It's an amazing story and for
so many reasons, but for the one that you just
described that this was actually well known in France.
Speaker 16 (53:26):
It all took place in public.
Speaker 9 (53:27):
But I don't think one in a million Americans had
any idea at all until your series came out, and
the initial reaction to your series was, well that now
we know Candice is insane, really going off the deep bend.
Speaker 16 (53:40):
I have some man come on now.
Speaker 9 (53:42):
And then as the series progressed and became one of
the biggest podcast series in the country and sort of sober,
people were saying, actually, you should listen to this.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
It says a lot about Americans. I haven't watched it
because I have no desire to, and everybody who has
should be ashamed of her.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Damn, y'all.
Speaker 9 (54:00):
Growth, this is pretty this is pretty wild, pretty compelling.
But I just want to get to the lawsuits. So
like they're suing, they're not. They're suing you for defamation.
Speaker 17 (54:13):
For things that I never said, which is they know
that this lawsuit. This is why I called it a
PR strategy. This lawsuit was filed for the press, right
because she just lost her defamation case against two journalists
in France, and now everyone was reporting, Wait, you said
that this was the big case that proved, or you
presented it as if you were suing them on this
claim of you being a man or a woman, and
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now you've lost that. In France, this is your home territory.
What's going on? And so I think she called the
lawyers and were like, just just file a lawsuit because
it's very sloppy. The points weren into one another, like
for first, they argue that I'm doing it for money,
then they make the argument that I was fired for
talking speaking about it, so that doesn't make any sense.
It can't be both, and it's a bunch of stuff
that I didn't say. They're behaving like mainstream journalists where
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they'll take a couple of words that I said, like gangster,
criminal and gangster, but then they add their own sentence
to it and they're like, she accused her of being
a criminal and a gangster. So it's very sloppy, And
what they're doing is they're just biting their time. They
don't want the world to look which this was a
very bad mistake, a very bad way to go about it.
But they want the world to believe that she has
(55:18):
a claim against me that they well, we're suing therefore,
you know, because this podcast lied. But it's way too late.
I mean it truly, it's it's everyone is aware of
what's happened. This only made the series go viral, and
now it's going viral in Asia. You know, I'm getting
all of these emails from people in China saying, this series.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
And we are here, she is insane to be clean,
she needs help.
Speaker 16 (55:52):
And needs to be stopped going viral.
Speaker 17 (55:55):
They'ren't even on YouTube, so I don't know how they're
watching it in China. But it was a sick because
obviously that's.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Racist, so they have YouTube in China. It's just centered.
The Ovens absolutely would fall within the censorship because she's
actually making America look absolutely ridiculous. So this is absolutely
propaganda that they'll be saying, see, don't go over there.
Speaker 17 (56:23):
Now people are going, okay, something must be true. You know,
a president of a foreign country does not sue a
mom that does her podcast in her basement.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
She did the thing a mom, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (56:47):
I want to hear about the oath. But if you
don't before I go to bed. China, you're routine.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
So say you had a with like the female German
president and you went online over like chancellor.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Chancellor and you're like.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
She a man, and she's like what and it just
happened and you had like millions of people following you
and then you heard administration said, man, if you don't
stop this, we're gonna just see the shit out of you.
Speaker 14 (57:26):
And you're like.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
German president from my American home, German president is attacking
a single mom.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
And I'm just trying. I'm just voicing my opinion as
an American.
Speaker 14 (57:44):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (57:44):
I heard it. I heard it. I wish I hadn't,
but I heard it.
Speaker 17 (57:51):
Because she spoke something that was not true. Like, there's
clearly something that they want hidden, and so everyone's taking
a close look at the series.
Speaker 16 (57:58):
Yeah, that's not the way to hide things.
Speaker 9 (58:00):
The way to hide things is say, poor Cannice, nice woman,
obviously mentally ill, you know, come on now, that's that's
the way to do it.
Speaker 16 (58:07):
And sophisticated liars do that.
Speaker 9 (58:10):
So it is interesting they are they're responding in a
way that clearly is driven by emotion, right fear.
Speaker 16 (58:16):
I mean, that's my read. I don't.
Speaker 9 (58:25):
Really know why they're responding, of course, but looking at
it this it's so interesting. You may have noticed this
is a great country with bad food. Our food supply
is rotten, it didn't you. Halt and Hips dot Com
slash Chucker.
Speaker 17 (58:39):
Urca is the same sort of a beast as Francis,
and that while we have said that you can't ask
us any questions, we see for cyber bullying, there is
something bull whatever, whatever the claims are here, but there
is something about it where once you really arrive at
a truth, what I find the reaction is for the
people that are incense the fact that you're presenting that
(59:01):
truth is I'll impoverish you. Yeah, and I've seen this
over and over again. It's like, Okay, she told the truth,
but our response to that is going to be demands
that she get fired. Right, she should lose her livelihood
for speaking the truth. She should lose. And that's why
Jake Tapper, I don't know if you've seen it. You
probably haven't because it's Jake Tapper, but he sits down
(59:21):
with Tom Claire, who is a lawyer on this case,
and Jake Tapper is doing the absolute most to make
this just the easiest interview for Tom Claire. He's sitting
across from him and he's like, she's deranged and she's crazy,
and she's a conspiracy theorist. So much so Jake Tapper,
but so much so that people in the comments were like,
now I want to watch a series. His own viewers
thought this was just so over the top. But think
(59:41):
she hears Tom Clair and he asks him like a
basic question. He's like, you know, what evidence did you
present to her that per sheets a man? And Tom
Claire can't answer the question. He's like, we you know
we there was. You can read the claims. It's extensive,
and you know we told her that she was a woman.
They never presented any evidence. We went to them before
we published the series. We were in touch with Tom Claire,
(01:00:02):
Claire and Locke. We sent them a list of questions.
We said, look, we won't even do this series if
you answer these basic circle yes or no questions and.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Who the hell are you? Imagine you opened your email
and Cad is over like Lou and I heard all
these things about you? Is the true? Who the hell
are you?
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Why are you in my inbox? Or delete?
Speaker 14 (01:00:37):
What?
Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
What generation?
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Is an American entitled that you said you're not even
a journalist even though she went to school for journalism.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Jesus Christ, you're in a quote unquote investigative journalist from
the comfort of your home, meaning you don't an investigative
damn thing, and through your investigative journalism.
Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
You've discovered the story of the century. You with absolutely
no actual media.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Credentials and who has been fired from the only actual
media company that has some type of reputation online and
now you're an independent media journalist.
Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
You're going to use you and your.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Rabid file wing of fools to bully form pr firms
or government administrations to answer questions you han't know when
you ask.
Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
It, I can't help you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Did I miss the memo? Like, didn't like didn't you
like need like permission to get embassy? Like wasn't it
like a Department of State?
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Like didn't you like need things like credentials or something
like to talk to people overseas in leadership positions?
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
And I think because you were you online and nobody
in real life. This I'm just this is a general question.
Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
This is a general questions article yesterday that said.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Would you go to the president John Hopkins and say
I'm me bitch? Listens like would you do this? And
you in the same state.
Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
I opened an article yesterday on CNN that said.
Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
Not releasing the Epstein files is wrong for the victims
who need a voice in this.
Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
Sir, I'm done.
Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I am done.
Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
I have nothing to say about this foolishness, folks.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Are I'm sorry, of course, real quest, real quick, real quick.
A couple of clarifying So what was said by Communist.
Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Dudes network is that the release of the child porn
and the viewing of it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
By people who weren't in the room, which is first
a crime and second inappropriate and third apparently healthy for
the victims. I was gonna say traumatizing to the victims,
(01:03:31):
like most psychological studies say.
Speaker 10 (01:03:38):
You've got You've got the thing on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Oh yes, So the release of the Epstein files is
going to be therapeutic for the victims. So the distribution of.
Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
Child therapeutic is that it was important for the voice.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
A boring for them to have a voice. I don't
know child was vocal.
Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
I'm not sure how this is advantageous to them, but
that is definitely what they put in print multiple times.
Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
I am done, Like I think is that gas like
it was?
Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
I was like the way that I just crinkled up
my face and closed the app because I was like, no.
Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
That's why I keep saying everybody who wants the files
is gross because the implication is that you want to
see somebody getting fucked and that's gross.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I was, I would say, and then under.
Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
That it is somehow beneficial to them.
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
To the victims who are involved, who possibly may as
the Beyond Register said, I have said, let's not show them.
Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
And then when it said, well, one of the victims
has moved out of the country and has not said
anything about it, as if it would.
Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Somehow be helpful to the real reason they moved out
of the country.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
It's just in case, and that's the case they lost.
They damn mind because this is the crazy part they
can rationalize. They don't even put this together. The person
moved out of the country just in case they lost,
They damn mind and released it. That's why they're like,
there's a possibly, the person said. The person said, there's
(01:05:34):
a possibility that this leadership might listen to these sickos.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I let me go. And they're like, the victimized person
abandoned the country out of fear of the release, We
should release it.
Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
What of it not being released? Them not having a voice?
They need literally.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Like you're gonna move out because it wasn't released and
you don't have a voice. That's not how that works
at all.
Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
You wouldn't leave if you knew it wouldn't be released,
because that would mean you have the voice to tell
the story without any visual evidence.
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
That's what I'm saying. I don't people. I don't think
people know what a voice means.
Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
A voice.
Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Is words and chords that are text to vocals. But
they said to have a voice. Obviously there's what it means.
So Evans is out here given the voice to the
voice list.
Speaker 17 (01:06:35):
Was Brigitte Macrone the first lady born a woman? I
mean that basic of questions. Did she ever live as
a person named Berenique before the transition? Temporarily Brigitte lived
as a person named Vernique. They refuse to answer these
yesterm no questions. Obviously, if you're gonna prove actual malice,
you have to you have to present to the court,
(01:06:55):
which is it's obviously a very high bar that's been set,
which I don't necessarily even agree with that bar, by
the way, and your time were Sullivan set. But obviously
you have to prove that I acted, I knew the truth.
Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
And I act.
Speaker 16 (01:07:05):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 17 (01:07:06):
I was desperate to get to the truth and said
I would stop doing this series. We also offered for
me to get on a plane and fly to France
to interview to get Brigitte's side of this. You know,
I want to make sure I'm not colored by having
read Becoming Brigitte and reading the series. There could be
another side. And it was essentially a big f you
(01:07:26):
and said Tom Claire comes back. She doesn't have to
answer your question. She that doesn't have to prove to you.
Speaker 9 (01:07:33):
They retain tom Claire and Libby lock then or tom claiir.
So tom Clare and Libby Locke are married, second marriage
for him. But I know them, and they have a
law firm I believe in its specialized in making people
shut up.
Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Okay, so you noticed that? So he does Okay, so
you do know so I'm not the only one who
noticed that he does that. He does that, like that
parentheses thing, like you're like, yeah, so you understand. Uh,
the director of France.
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
You know, the one who had two marriages and fucked
his kids.
Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
And wait, what why are you why are you doing
this sir? Why did you just say the person and
why are you just say he's one of the people
who gets up my lockdown Like he's like yeah, of course,
like he went directly home when he's sucking around his wife.
Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
What wait, what?
Speaker 18 (01:08:23):
Why are you putting things in there that nobody asked.
I would not trust I have because I always keep.
Speaker 16 (01:08:38):
It right now through intimidation.
Speaker 9 (01:08:41):
They tried it with me and uh in a in
a really brutal, cruel way, I would say, to try
and to scare you into shutting up. So that itself,
I don't think anyone regards Tom Clair is a good
lawyer at all, but certainly you know his behavior.
Speaker 16 (01:08:55):
Is designed to intimidate you.
Speaker 9 (01:08:56):
So the fact that they hired them at the outset,
that's the behavior of someone who just wants to scare
you into shutting up.
Speaker 17 (01:09:03):
And the timing of when they first sent us a
letter was actually December of last year, sorry, the end
of November of last year. We missed the letter because
they sent it to an inbox that we would have
never been checking. It was a very weird inbox, like
where you would go to return a T shirt. And
because we missed that, and I'm glad I missed it
because I probably would have been scared. I think they
knew because that was right when I began speaking with
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Xavier Boussard and I was in London at the time,
and I had agreed to interview him, but nobody knew
I was going to do this interview. So what made
them suddenly send this intimidating letter to Tom Claire sent it.
Speaker 16 (01:09:40):
They'd already retained him, They had.
Speaker 17 (01:09:41):
Retained him, and he sent a letter. And I think
that they were monitoring Xavier Bussard. I think they were
monitoring either his communications or monitoring They have that he
was flying to London to sit down to an interview
with me, and they sent it just a week before
I sat down with him.
Speaker 9 (01:09:55):
Well, keep in mind the subject of your story controls
some of the most competent intel services in the world.
Wreckt correct ahead of state. There are no rules at all,
which is enough to make you a little uncomfortable if
you think about it. Yeah, and the fact that they
would hire those two lawyers. By the way, his wife,
Libby Locke, is Bill Ackman's lawyer who actme uses to
(01:10:16):
make people shut up interesting by sending hysterical letters, screechy
letters threatening to.
Speaker 16 (01:10:21):
Destroy you if you keep talking about the client. I mean,
it's really thuggish.
Speaker 9 (01:10:28):
Let's just go through, But Queen, just go through like
chronologically how this unfolded. So at the core of the
story is the allegation that Brigitte Macrone is not who
she says she is, and that would include her sex
is not what she says.
Speaker 17 (01:10:42):
It is erect that she was born a man named
Jean Michel trov Now. And I'm aware if you have
not watched the series, that sounds crazy, because that was
me when I first saw the headline. Yes, no, no,
I mean I was alerted to it by the Daily Mail.
I thought it was such a crazy, insane headline, but
it was The Daily Mail had done this, had published
an article saying that with a video of m a
Crone denying claims his wife was a man, And I
just thought that's really funny, Like, what could possibly be
(01:11:04):
going on in France but the president has to deny
a claim that his wife's a man. But something that
caught my eye was just as Razarna's article, they made
no effort to debunk it, like it was sort of
like it was that typical New York Times it's so crazy,
it's it's like, okay, but if it's.
Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
So, didn't he just say why am I listening to?
Where are my headphones?
Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (01:11:23):
Are my headphones.
Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
So that's like saying, hey, so also looks like a man.
I'm not a man. Fuck you. They went through no
effort to debunk it. Were she supposed to pull down
her pants?
Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
I mean, is that how you debunked that? If somebody
says that, even in France, I say, that's a been.
Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Much even in France. The dude doing the the investigation. Again,
I don't know how it's relevant.
Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
It's not real.
Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
And if she so, you just pissed off because she
don't want to be an icon for you.
Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Like again, how is any of this relevant? Why are
they terrorizing this family? They already in the political spotlight.
Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Like for what.
Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Like you're like care the lead these people, But there
is no reason. Yes the fault.
Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
No listen, niggas in Paris. It's full circle. I told you,
as bad as insane. He is nothing but an issue.
He is the He's a thorn in the world side,
and he's caused by America. Kanye is the central problem.
That's why I said Kanye and Drake could literally be
this central news. And I blame Kanye for Drake because
he said Drake is the best rapper out there. And
(01:12:48):
then now you got Drake out there saying UK rappers
are better than American I told you it's problematic.
Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
It's problematic. Yes, you know, you know he is less
less Listen, you know, you.
Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Know dark skinned, you know, medium colored niggas with light skin,
nigga tendencies.
Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Who are esthetically not that pleasing and don't know how
to work out.
Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
But walk around with a weighted jacket. You know, please stop.
Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
I'm in the band and the band. I am the band.
He was out here using the bands and everything in
the middle.
Speaker 10 (01:13:25):
Of them this last time.
Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
I'm asking, so are we doing the things?
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Huh do what.
Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
Are we doing the oath thing tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Or oh yeah, where's the.
Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
There?
Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
But yes, fine, don't it's fine.
Speaker 17 (01:13:44):
She just you know, posts some photos of her. Obviously,
she's got three kids. It's gotta be tons of photos
of her raising her children. There's nothing. They had one
solitary photo, and when you look at the photo, it
was very obvious. And this is before I got into
the details that she looks a lot more like the
little boy that's on the left then she does. Who
they were trying to report was the little girl that
was sitting on the family member's lap and so I
(01:14:05):
got into it kind of very organically. I was like,
this is weird, like what's going on in France that
the president has to make a comments on the situation.
And then I found a website where it explained it,
and I instantly realized there is something here, like you
just you don't have any photos of yourself for thirty
years of your life, and the two photos that you've
given have been given to the public from a woman
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who has quite literally been charged with forging documents. She's
I mean, she's a thug. I mean, Mimi Marshawn. They
had to eventually get rid of her forging documents, thuggery,
things of that nature, of a criminal nature. She's the
only one. Everyone's gonna go through her to get any
information about your past. This is so strange, I mean,
it's so kooky that you wouldn't just the defense to
this is just, hey, could you show us any pictures
(01:14:51):
of your living for these thirty years? You know you
had allegedly three children. Do you guys take any photos
while you were raising them? Maybe when you were in
the host No? No, no, no, Tuck, are they There's
there's nothing there.
Speaker 9 (01:15:04):
So it's an amazing allegation, a stunning allegation, a bewildering allegation.
Speaker 16 (01:15:10):
But I think the legal and the moral question is
did you give an opportunity?
Speaker 9 (01:15:16):
Did you give the Prime Minister and his wife an opportunity,
the Macrones the opportunity to respond to the allegation before
the series ran?
Speaker 16 (01:15:24):
So that's my question.
Speaker 17 (01:15:25):
Weeks to respond?
Speaker 16 (01:15:26):
What way did you do that? Did you call them?
Speaker 17 (01:15:28):
Did you via TM? Claire was their lawyer, so it
was it. Actually they kind of made a mistake. They
messaged us first to kind of intimidate us and say,
you know, I don't you're working on this thing or
you're talking you know.
Speaker 16 (01:15:40):
They say how they knew you were working on it?
Speaker 9 (01:15:42):
I don't.
Speaker 17 (01:15:42):
I am not clear. Because what was interesting is they
in that first letter they included claims of what I
said while I was working out a daily wire. That
was the previous March. So you're responding to something that
I said in March. We're now in December, So what
triggered you? Like, clearly it had to have been that
I had just interviewed Xavier Pussard and they were aware
of it. So then they said, okay, send her out
a letter to intimidate her and obviously getting a letter.
(01:16:05):
For most people you get a letter from a sitting
president of France, you're going to go, okay, well, I'm
just going to be quiet and not say anything more
because I don't want to get involved in this. But
for me, it just made me even more curious, and
so to be sure, I said, well, I'm glad we
have a lot of communication established because I'm certainly not
interested in defaming you. I'm not interested in lying. Obviously,
I would do myself a disservice if all of this
was complete crap and it turned out that I had
(01:16:26):
been peddling it. So here are my questions, very simple,
yes or no questions. Did you ever live as Veronique?
Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Who is Jehn?
Speaker 17 (01:16:34):
Michel truck No refused to answer.
Speaker 9 (01:16:36):
They just instantly got so you presented the allegations then,
which they, of course were aware of the people had
made others, not you, that she's not really who she
says she Isn't you said, can you explain?
Speaker 17 (01:16:48):
Yeah, and honestly didn't require much of an explanation. We
also asked, can you give us any photos of you
living through this thirty year period? I mean, pretty easy stuff.
If you're actually concerned and you're gonna pretend you're so
trauma ties into famed because of this story, I would
have been like, yeah, of course, here I am. Here's
me in middle school, here's me, I'm a cheerleading team,
here's me the first day I held my first son.
Speaker 14 (01:17:08):
Here's me.
Speaker 17 (01:17:09):
It's such an easy thing to debunk that it requires
the suspension of common sense to believe that this is
a conspiracy theory, because it's just it's so easy to debunk,
and yet they refuse to do it, and they're being
extremely petty and going after every single person that speaks
about it.
Speaker 16 (01:17:24):
Now, if they ever provided that evidence to anybody, no,
that's the point.
Speaker 17 (01:17:28):
They haven't.
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
To this day.
Speaker 17 (01:17:30):
They would have never had to do anybody because everyone
would have been laughed at them. Like if someone was
working on a story saying I live as a man
for thirty years, I don't need to lawyer up. I
want you to publish that story so that I can
then come out and say this person is a psychopath. Clearly,
here is the trove of me growing up with my sisters.
Here's my middle school yearbook. To the contrary, even when
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Xavier Pussar because he has been worked them for ten
years and therefore filing paperwork with the governments who get pictures.
John Michelle Traguna has a military file.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
He also all right, oh real quick, cause it's gonna
come up.
Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
How do you, for example, if you're getting into a
conversation with somebody like a layman about mental health stuff,
and you hear them saying a whole bunch of pop
psychology and then you want to stick your pluck your
eyes out with your charpy, how do you engage in
that conversation and their response and when you start responding, they.
Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Either don't.
Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Feel they should respect your authorities simply because you have
a degree in it, and they also have access to
the same information.
Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Therefore they filure on the same level. Like how do
you navigate that?
Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
I don't like, I mean, like, I'm just trying to
figure out, because that's what it seems now is that
people who are not academics now speak with PRC.
Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
For example, like people who want.
Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
To go into law and think they know law, and
because they may have one run case fraudulently, they believe
that they now should be in law.
Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
So people like that who.
Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Will engage people like me who you know, actually defended
the law, the basic one, the constitution. They'll like debate
weird things with some weird sense of authority when they
barely know the constitution.
Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Audacity a hell of a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Listen, niggas holds and audacity. It just comes hand in hands.
I figured that in twenty twenty five. But I'm just saying,
how do you especially when dealing with clients who speak
from like a level of authority from areas they know
nothing about. So you may not necessarily be a very
handy individual, and you would not purport to say I
know how to be out here fixing cars and removing
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type of all the stuff. You're like, I'm over do
it to either an individual who may know how to
do it or just.
Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Call it a plumber or electrician or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
But there would be business out here sitting and saying
you know what you you know, you know, it's not
hard to to rot to use a router, And they're like,
what is a router?
Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Like why are you talking down to me? I'm like, like,
what are we talking about? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Like real like seriously, like people like it's not that
hard to build a website, and then you're like, what's
the last website you built?
Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Why you gotta be like that, Like wait when you talking.
Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
About like, I can show you the website I built,
but if you're saying it ain't that hard, it shouldn't
be that expensive, I'm like, all right, cool, where's the
last one you built? I'm like, okay, So that's why
it would cause probably like five hundred and six hundred
apparently from what I'm I'm apparently Georgie to myself, cause apparently,
motherfucker is that like ten thousand dollars big websites?
Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
But I will indulge you.
Speaker 6 (01:21:06):
This is the last one you get, all right, not
last one when you've been oh no, because I'm no,
because anyway, this is the last one you get. I
had something similar today in which, like I mentioned one
of my clients needed an emergency session, the Jazmine Crockett
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supporter and made a comment and said, you know, I
feel bad like when I am talking and it's not
the perst time I've heard this, but they kind of
took it to the extreme both time. Yeah, but they
were like, so I feel bad that, you know, when
I'm explaining the things that are going on. It's all
from my perspective. So you're thinking that my partner is
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this bad person. And I said, please give me some credit.
Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
She just said my.
Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Way, she said that to you.
Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
Yes, I said, please give me some credit.
Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
That's that question. Yes, that's low. Sounds condescending.
Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
Again, just like I just said, so something similar.
Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
So I said, please give me some credit and my
professional ability that I understand that what you are saying
is from your perspective, and that I am not presuming
that you are one hundred percent right and that said
person is one hundred percent wrong. I know all of
that and how to do that, and I make my
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recommendations or suggestions with that in mind.
Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
That is very similar to what it is that you
are speaking about.
Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Real quick, I understand she's old, she's not older than you. Yes, oh,
this is all definitely the audacity. Okay, So now I
get to do the thing. She does understand that you,
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at a minimum, know what the word perspective is bare men,
since you graduated high school.
Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
So by that logic, and she's coming to you, I
would only guess.
Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
That one who counsels would only possibly figure, at a
bare minimum the things you're telling them is from possibly
their personal perspective, So it would only stand to reason
(01:23:56):
that if it is from your personal perspective, which where
the mean that the counselor is assuming is as you,
it would be your perspective, there may be things that
may be skewed from reality since it is your perspective
and you are coming to counseling because clearly you're clinically unsane.
Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
So the need to.
Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Double check after payment is strange to me.
Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
On why you would need to just tell your counselor.
I hope you understand this is from my perspective as
you're looking at them wondering why they are telling you
that this is from their perspective, as if you didn't
(01:24:56):
know they are them.
Speaker 6 (01:25:00):
Okay, just making sure if it was someone who had
said something similar before or who wasn't having a crisis
and it was purely audacity, like I have said to PRC,
I would have said something more to the tune of.
Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
Therapy is a choice.
Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
You asked me for my recommendations based on my professional skills.
Speaker 7 (01:25:34):
Traditionally, bitch, First of all, you made ship, meaning that.
Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
At any time, get the fuck like if at any
point my services are not up to your standard, you
can go. And you know what, I completely respect that,
because I mean, as a personal trainer obviosusally, I'm gonna
do the same thing, like if bitching gonna show up,
I will absolutely keep hitting ignore. But no, it is
(01:26:11):
just a strange thing that's happening. And now we got
Ovens out here actingly like she got a master's degree,
saying words that are incorrect and playing this real weird
victim narrative that she ironically had been fighting against. Cause
to be clear, Ovens was one of the ones going
to college campuses arguing with these kids talking about their
(01:26:32):
day two sensitive in Nay pussy you remember what Others
was arguing all these damn feminists and the feminists don't
cut the ass out, saying, bitch, you are literally the
feminist dream shuit the fuck up. And she didn't even understand,
Like that was the most insane thing. The Femini's like,
you don't even understanding that you're the cod Like how
are you arguing against something that you are literally you're representing,
(01:26:52):
Like it's hard for you to say, like, y'all feminists,
y'all are just saying too much and just that and
the third, like, are you stay a whole wife for
three kids? And you basically shit, like what's happening right now?
They're like, you want to stand like you are? Do
you understand irony right now? She's like no, and they're
(01:27:14):
like really. She's like, how is this ironic? I'm married.
They're like, are you quiet? She's like, that's not what's feminine.
I'm like, it's a feminist. I can't do this shit.
That's why you can't watch Ovens too long. Ovens will
(01:27:35):
make you dag gonna go in the directions. You out
here cheering out for your cheering for white people, you
wishing for genocide. You out here just joining the massade because.
Speaker 6 (01:27:44):
Of because of the fact that even pair of the
CIA and the Masade and then put France behind them.
Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
I'm so tired of American inceptualism.
Speaker 6 (01:27:53):
I am so tired of people on that not you
putting you know what, I would have even been better
had he been like Massad. No, I wouldn't have because stop,
because I just.
Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Need people to keep I need people to respect on Israel,
name like, why don't they stop playing with these people?
Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
If they'll stop and leave these people alone, You out
here acting like France got killers too. Boys.
Speaker 5 (01:28:20):
Shut up, Yes he did, yes he did.
Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Ches shut up with his che the baby a killer
or three from France.
Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
But when you're thinking about assassins, France is not the
first place nobody goes. Everybody knows this. There are two
places you go before anyone. United States and Israel. That's
what if you want nothing, if you want no no
ties to nobody, and the government just disappears. Those are
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the two places because they know how to shut the
fuck up. Everybody else talked too much. Everybody knows it
to be clear. Why, by the way, to boats hated
both of them. That's why there's Big Satan and Lil
Satan according to the Middle East. Big Satan is America,
Lil Satan is Israel. Why because both got nukes? For one,
I don't know why people are surprised that somebody who
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has everybody trying to kill them would not have something
in their back pocket. That's crazy. That's like being in
the street and saying you got a gun. Why are
you asking dumb questions? If I have one, it made,
why would you it would only be to be brandished
if being used. Why are you ask us stupid questions,
do you ask an Israel you got nukes? Yes, we
(01:29:35):
about to tell all y'all what we got y'all who
hate us anyway, Yes, let's tell you snitching as motherfuckers
if we got nukes in our back pocket.
Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
And you already say we ain't.
Speaker 6 (01:29:45):
Shit, you also suck because I downloaded that David Banner
song and the way that it.
Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Hits, it hits too hard. Listen, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
And when you hear and when you listen to the lyricure,
like this moves my spirit because I'm telling you it
looks because I wanna said David Banner is a genie,
because you would think it would just be funny in
service level. No, and especially the third verse he goes
goes off and I'm like, you don't need to do it.
He could have just left the hook. It would have
been hard as fuck. I'm playing for you niggas, But
(01:30:15):
he could have left the hook and it would have
been fine. He had to just go off and be
very specific. He says, all you nicks, she said for you.
He's living on you, bitches, couches for you, hold out
here selling ass and fucking up.
Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
You just ain't gonna go nowhere because that finance.
Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
He said, all of it.
Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
He said you he said, you out running Santa Annual
kids running around and paid your rent. He said, God yo,
he said Lucilla Jesus, he said all forty third, Like
you know what, this is not necessary, like bitch is
her dance on the first time he said that nigga't
need to call me out like that. It was too specific.
It was too specific. Like that's how you knew he
(01:30:56):
was fed up, like at that point, because that's I
think what is is like most successful ones, because that's
when he came out. No, I'm talking about that album
because that's when he came out with that whisper song.
It was that whisper one because remember the ye Ain't
Twins started it and then he took it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
And made it even better. I'm sorry, ye Ain't Twins
is ignorant. He know how to talk.
Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
That's why I like ye Ain't Twins started. First of all,
Get the fuck away from your stick ass breath.
Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Don't hate, no, listen, don't hate as correct or we'll
compare what care of compared contrast?
Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Oh we'll do what?
Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
So you know ninety one minutes. Okay, I'll close it out,
but no, real quick, let it go. No, but real quick.
Speaker 6 (01:31:45):
This is how it is.
Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
You know, the yee A Twins whisper song versus the
David Banner wiss David banner. That sounds like something you'd
want whispering as opposed to the we Ain't run.
Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
You'd been like, bruh. First of all, your breath is whole,
because you know you like all the gold, all of it?
You too, crow.
Speaker 6 (01:32:06):
I really want aware are they now on all the
niggas who in the early two thousand got gold and
didn't go back to the dentist.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
I really want to where are you now? First of all?
The where are you now about teeth? Is Juel Santana. Listen.
Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
I will never I will always clown him for him,
not like you, like ya?
Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
How you got you too?
Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
I felt so old.
Speaker 6 (01:32:27):
The other day my client asked me if I liked
my new car, and I was like, nah, not really.
I was like, I'm gonna have to do some stuff
to make to get it to where I like it.
And uh, that's funny that you asked me that, because
I was just texting one of my friends and I
was like I'm gonna have to do like exhibit my
pet my ride.
Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
And I was like, oh, you don't know what pemp
my riot is, do you? And they were like, I
see it on the rerun side.
Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
You know what, you know what you have gone, You've
already done it.
Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
I keep trying to explain to you, trying to explain
to you, do not cross the bridge.
Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
You've already gone too far.
Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
When you start trying to talk these regular years, these
bad things happen. So I don't know which wonderfuncker I
played at the beginning.
Speaker 14 (01:33:15):
I think it was this.
Speaker 6 (01:33:16):
One client asked me what it was like when or
when I was there when Twilight was being written, as
in like the actual like they're in the present, when
Edward Color two hundred years old was been.
Speaker 5 (01:33:32):
I was like, you know what all of that because
my client was upset because I said, game of thrown
like ship.
Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
So beause you're done.
Speaker 14 (01:33:58):
It's gotta be proprietary.
Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
And literally.
Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
To the pain the dog people fucking when they say
you want to get you.
Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Bring look in the bring yourself to see. Just then.
Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
The pain call the people bucking when they come you
say you want to go.
Speaker 19 (01:34:30):
Look in the mirror bring yourself to see just the
over mind, I said, and I watched that chid something
like live's sick. But I've got the pass like that
only mind remiss.
Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
I've been permitting.
Speaker 19 (01:34:45):
Meditating with the mind is actually rating and mcas not
homeboy lives.
Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
This word is too a gud toss the plans.
Speaker 20 (01:34:54):
I lost my mind, but as it myself, for I've
been tan motivate the cript for las.
Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
Tech un not the cover I talk up. This is
no accident. Maths not it.
Speaker 19 (01:35:06):
Consequence is not so I must repair let them things
go see the glaslope.
Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
We're both pain so bout log and danjo.
Speaker 17 (01:35:16):
It's all the same.
Speaker 10 (01:35:18):
Now who's the place.
Speaker 14 (01:35:31):
The pain?
Speaker 20 (01:35:34):
Say you can think of look in the mirror, bring
yourself and lift the don to see. Just left the
don the scene pass break the pain.
Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
These are the donkeyple.
Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Bucking with me. Say think you more, you think you.
Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Look at the mirror, bring yourself and left the doc
to see. Just let the dog scene.
Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Says the next defendable emotions come in terrible side pacts.
Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Nothing came the cravings.
Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
Man, I look at you. The three next so wonderful.
But if I start your nature busmas all to do.
I have to chase my full life. Rather you be
willing to be this dron meaning what you need to
a little bit of a sweat and sets when you
wouldn't just talk. I'll just trust, make your cream and
lick the crimson bluehood along your bed.
Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
The preaching in my head?
Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
But did it be better? But I just like on you,
but resistances you don't wear. I'm real with you.
Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
You thought of whipping your coming and.
Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
Your contemplingding and you never you preching then punishing your
flower frosting.
Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
You never see the control I have over the sensitive.
Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Decided little but let the more I see. So what's
like just to be wearing? Before I just start the
spare tim decide I've been what knowing?
Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
And then they got this consumers with the plain. These
women don't keep.
Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
On bucking when they come in saying you you you something.
Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
Going talking the mirror, Free yourself and that the dot
to see it. Just let the dot to see it.
Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Pries to take the plain.
Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
You go the donkey bob talking why content to saying,
don't tell you walter? Did you coting?
Speaker 16 (01:37:13):
Go and put it in it?
Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Talking in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Free yourself and let the don to see. Just let
the don see
You're wrong descration. I just started this, so this is
just gonna be just incorrect.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So desecration of.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Holy relics like temples, altars, do you personally feel, you know,
as a human adult.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
In the year of Our Lord twenty twenty five after death.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
For me?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, first of all, material has been stolen from me?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Why?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Truly it's real?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Do you believe.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That the the desecration of a place of worship is
a bad thing?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Absolutely? Why?
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Because it's supposed to be literally a sanctuary of.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Say yes, okay, do you believe if you're going into
another country that you may never have visited before, possibly
and it's a new culture, we'll call it that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Do you believe you should.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
A respect the customer courtesies of culture or b say
fuck it?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Say what we believe is better?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Y'all?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Are some savages kill rpe pillars, desecrate and then say
we're doing it in the name of God?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Which one? We're not sure? But ours? Do you feel
option one makes sense or option two?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I'm gonna go for.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm gonna go for a sure be as what Christians do.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So with that said, would you be surprised if we'll
say hypothetically other gods did exist, that they possibly will
be holding a grudge.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Sure, Oh, I heard I g the other day going
there's all of these verses and the Bible and Christians
are real quick to repeat about how God is a
jealous god. Yes, well, if there are no other gods,
what is he jealous of?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
And I went, oh, it was.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
No. I mean that is to be that.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Is true if there were no other gods, which again
is a good discussion topic because human people for some
reason are under the impression that there has always been
only one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
What is considered a god?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So you, I'm out out of curiosity, what do you
consider what would be criterion?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And I think I've as what would be criterion? No
matter change? Would you say, what.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Criteria would an entity need to have to say this
is a qualification for gods?
Speaker 6 (03:00):
God shah, try not to immortality?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Immortality?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Okay, but what is immortality since basically you can't kill
off nobody nowadays because we got technology.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's what I'm like, if we're talking about godship.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Immortality, humans have all I think have achieved it technically, I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Gonna go for that, and I'm gonna say immortality.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Okay, that's one I'm telling you they have.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But go ahead, wait, hold on real quick. What is immortality?
Because maybe we need to I need to make sure
that me and you are You may have a different
interpretation of immortality than me, so I want to make
sure that I'm working within your framework.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
So what is immortality or spirit?
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Whatever the physical manifestation of said god is.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It does never disappear?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Okay, so does immortality? Also insinuates that they don't age
or they got to a certain age, and then you stop. Yes, okay, rude,
all right, wait, so rampires will be considered under the Wait, no,
I'm sorry, jump too far, immortality continue?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Supreme power?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
What a supreme power? Get out my face?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Are the supersedes human ability?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Give them to give some examples.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That's something that cause humans can do some quote unquote extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Things, you know, some fringes. So that's what I'm saying.
What would what would have to they'd have what would
have to be.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So you'd have to take the fringe into the account
of what fringe humans can do, like peak human strengths,
pink intelligence, all the other stuff, and then that jump
that would say nope, that's higher.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So that's what I'm saying to me.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
For example, well, if you go in the framework of
the Christians, that would be there, all knowing, all seeing,
omni present, can be everywhere, know everything all the time.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
An example would be, uh, what did Poseidon do?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Didn't he like raise the ocean or some shit?
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Gosh, I'm getting my my stories mixed, I said, I'm
trying to remember what Poseidon did?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Didn't he like raise the ocean or some shit?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What fuck called the earth quests?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Like yeah, I mean I mean like commands, yes, commands
like literally the yes, yes, ship like that. Okay, So
what I'm saying, like like throwing lightning bolts at chick Okay,
so like super extraordinary thing, yes, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Making something out of nothing? I guess would that be equivalent.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Your stuff is too close to me?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Can you see you if you move?
Speaker 9 (06:15):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Why have you put it on this side? Why don't
you put it on that side?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Because he keep knocking it? Smack him.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Watch this, I'm gonna I'm gonna put it on this
Side's gonna knock it over, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
He can't help himself, hey see.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And then the other he just popped up again. This
is a this is a psycho path.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He knows he's yours. Why they're all right, go ahead,
stay there. I'm gonna see how long you actually stayed there.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
They're both yours.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
But yeah, so far exceeds human strength and ability.
Speaker 10 (06:50):
That's all I.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Got, all right, So our humans almost there.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
In my opinion, though, what's.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I'm curious, So with.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
All the AI chips, with the enhancements, with like mechanical.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Limbs and being able to regenerate and being able to.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Make pain almost nonexistent and slow down the aging process,
you know, with like collagen and all your other things,
you're saying that they're so far from godship.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
In my opinion is, do you think that's by design?
As in humans can only go so far or only
allowed to go so far?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
No, not necessarily, I think just go, just go.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Foundation of Economics Adam Smith's invisible hand is because they're
fucking greedy, and every time they get close, I think
they will self destruct. I don't think that they will
ever be able to do it, because there is this
insane need that drives them to end up being the
cause of their own self destruction.
Speaker 10 (08:14):
That is my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Hmmm.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So you're saying that if they actually were able to
stay outside themselves and not be humans for five seconds,
there's actually a possibility they could reach godhood. Not because
humans are going to human they're always gona end U,
getting in their own way.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And self destructing. Correct, I e AI is gonna take over, so.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
All of the both correct? I agree?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, purely because of economics.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I like we have said many times, I think that
I think that, yes, it is about money until you
get to a certain point, and then the people above
the threshold where money is no longer impactful, it's about power,
and in both scenarios, yes, I believe that they self.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Destruct right now, I agree.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So with that said, would it be fair to say
that the creator of humans would want humans to play
(09:34):
a game in order to get to whatever the event
state that they're.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Supposed to gas We haven't finished. I'm sorry, carry on.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I said, Would it makes sense that the creator of
humans would make it out to be a game to
get to I guess Heaven or whatever end state that
humans are supposed to get to?
Speaker 10 (09:57):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Okay, Why.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Why would humans expect that a game creator or a
creator of a game, or a creator of a test
would intervene in anything as opposed to you know the
general rules of the game, and if you move accordingly,
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generally speaking, you'll get to the end state no matter.
I'm not gonna tell you how to do it. I'm
gonna say there is an end state that you're trying
to get to. I'm not saying you have to go
any specific direction. I can give you guidelines, and I
can say if you go this direction, you will absolutely
get there. It may not be the most ideal, it
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may not be the most comfortable, but it will guarantee
you one hundred percent you will get to the end
state that you will prefer to go to. You personally,
I don't give a damn what you do. God I'm
good damn with you at the.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
End of the day. But if the purpose of you
is to do X.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Y Z and get to a certain state, I'm gonna
give you a blueprint because I created your stupid ass
how to get to a certain state.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But if you don't earn your way there, and you're.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Gonna stay with the hell you at because you ain't
good enough. I'm curious on humans who are literally born
and bred to compete from the beginning of time. Everything
was a godpetition. At least his niggas was created. I mean,
caya neighbors, because Adam, and you've already learned that humans
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was ancient with that or I was already proving like
every every disembodied spirit or God or whoever was there
before humans as soon as they saw this flaw fuck
up looking at the garden, saying looking at God like
and you said perfection.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You made a privative, and you thought these fools gonna
have some sense. First sign, first first test. They've failed.
Maybe they'll learned.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
They won't. He cleared the boards. In the same chapter
with No, He's like, I couldn't find nobody. Listen, you
gonna build a boat. What's the boat?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And your family were living about to wipe everybody out?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know what, I'll figure out what the boat is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
No, back in the day when people actually paying attention
to God had like was going back and forth with people.
So if we're already gonna know that humans are defective
by very creation, therefore it's like you kicked out of
eternal life or eating or whatever the hell. Now you've
got to go in the world and figure it out
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in order to earn your way back in. Wouldn't that
logically make sense though, that you would have to earn
your way back into summer you got kicked outcause you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Follow the rules. Sure, okay, so we're.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Gonna build off of that simple premise. Why would people
be surprised the God?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
How could God look war happen? How could God let
this happen.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
When he has created the blueprint of flawed human Floyd,
human has been doing flawed human things since the beginning
of the time.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Okay, But humans have an issue with accountability and with
self reflect with critical self reflection. That is something that
is known. So the question seems strange to me because
that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
No how because I understand self reflection. But my argument
is always that humans are inherently narcissistic, because only a
narcissist who is one of ten billion people allegedly would
say the creator of the entire human race is focusing
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on me specifically.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Okay, but are narcissi's accountable? Is that one of their
court RAITs? Like again, this is why the question doesn't
make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
But it begs dull even when it comes to narcisst's
accountability why would you assume that you would just be
going over because of your existence.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Because that is easier to digest than reality.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But realistically it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
But none of them wake up in the morning to
say that they want to live in reality.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
They all talk about the ideal, the utopia.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Fiction exists, absolutely, but I agree with you. Fiction does exist,
and in fiction literally there's a protagonist and antagonist.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And just always go.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
The whole point of the story is that des trying
to do something. Well, it's fall in love with the
raglary Ass Briss Slayer, raglary Ass Dragon, learn raglar as Magic.
There's a goal and the goal is, like you start here,
and they're supposed to be growth, character growth. You know
shit that movies nowadays don't even understand.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Character development.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Now, I understand that generally speaking, humans have a main
character syndrome. That is fine, everybody's supposed to be in
charge of their own damn story.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
The thing is with that comes the whole journey.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And the assumption that you, being the level one player
that you are, is just gonna go up to the
dragon with these hands and you can barely breathe going
up the steps is insane. That's why I'm saying, there
comes a point where I understand delusion. I understand certain things,
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but there's a literal part of reality where it's.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Like no logical response and there isn't one. So clearly
you don't.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Know, because I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And done just before religious, we're just talking to atheists. Now,
this is just atheism based on whatever, and they're saying
they ain't no instant and not just got here by
Adams bar shut up. That's why you can't take atheists
seriously because nine times out of ten they're intelligence stops
at science, which none of them are proficient in.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
None of them.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I have never seen an actual atheist with a doctorate
in quantum physics.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
None, one, none, Because.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
First of all, I'm unfortunately educated enough, even though I
didn't want to be to actually know what these two
motherfuckers are credential did, and when I technically have more
degrees than these people who have all these doctors because
they just focused in one area, then it's easy to see.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So once you get into so the whole. So the
basics of physics is one. You get past the basics
of physics, everything is theory, which is why I'm saying
is a grift. I mean a scam that university of
everybody's paying all these damn physicists to do all this
shit in which they're all coming to the same conclusion
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that they haven't I don't know, Like at the end
of the day they go to bed knowing that they
got one hundreds of thousands of dollars just to say.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay with that said, these are the greed individuals who
actually took time to study it. And then you have atheists,
but very few of them, if any, are actually atheists,
because if you get to the point of I don't know,
you're like, yeah, something lily bigger than me has figured
gotten this together. So I'm just gonna spend my rest
of my life trying to figure out what it is.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
There's a loophole, there's a term, I forget what it
is for when you get to.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That point out of the gaps, yes, and there's it's
a theory in there. And most people hate God the
gap theory because like.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It cam'p is just got it got to be more.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And yet these are the people without the degrees trying
to do this.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But mind, did you use the same people to say
the earth is flat.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And when you argue with these people, you'll surprisingly get
a headache because they'll start saying things and make you
start questioning your sanity because no, because they'll actually say
stupid ship. And then it'll you'll have to like stop
and think why am I here? And how did I
get here? And how did life take me here? And
why why.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Do they exist?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So a lot of questions at the same time when
they're sitting and saying there's no there's a firmament above
the world, and you're like, that's not true because you
already know simple things like I don't know sun rays.
So the way glass works, or firmament as they call it,
is that if the sun shine through glass or a
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clear object, even water, which is a clear reflective I'm
getting a headache. I'm getting I'm getting gas lit. I
can't do it. So the way rainbows have.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Oh that's my next one time, I want to capture
a rainbow.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
I have never captured a rainbow film.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, yes, he loves me, and they followed me on Instagram.
Speaker 10 (19:09):
And they attack me.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, well they they're they fueled in narcism. I'm speaking
of you.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Know, I wish they would have left in on that
clip when they posted it.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, that was no, because.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Right when the song starts, I screamed, they need to
edit out all of my foolish discs because that's how
most of these damn shows go because I don't be editating.
But I also goowed to take the back sea because
it is Damn's tank. And I'm just so glad that
he was the one actually doing a whole bunch of
(19:43):
the talking cause I could just play Robin and he
could do the Batman thing design back these foods.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So yeah, that's why I would just that's.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Always been my my question about decreation of humanities. Why
would you think that you wanna that any higher power
deity will want to be around you ragging them?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Have y'all seen it, y'allself?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Like, why would anything of the divine want to deal
with humanity?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That's ridiculous. Keep them down there. I would absolutely understand
the choices.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Americans are notoriously self important.
Speaker 10 (20:17):
Again, I'm not sure why you.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And now we're an how're doing regional stuff?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Because that's even more frustrating that hmm. And actually an
actual pagan country is showing yourself with Christian Nation. But
those are things that we will never get to the
bottom of because no, I'm just saying if you got
if you got the ile horrors on the money and
then saying God we trust, it's no conflicting message me personally.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
We could make like a tea out of it, like
where it could be like not a tincture, but like
you know, like like a therapeutic tea out of what
like with the lemonade that you made, get like a
half and half and put but used honey as a sweetener.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Sugar just ugh, Nope, I agree.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I'm sorry carry.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Nope, You're right, cause that's what I would cause usually
that crap was usually so sweet.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I didn't have to put any fucking sugar or anything
even in the tea. I could like just make s
trade tea and like just put that stuff in the
almost like creamer. Mm. So yeah, pre made lemon tea
and then it has that blueberry thing. So it was
like for these fancy holes who like all these fancy
teas and shit.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
So yeah, the holes you like the blue ones.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Listen, bougie holes know how to take care of they pussy. Listen,
Like you said, buzzy jas and smell different depending on
your intake. So, bitch, who be just drinking like a
whole bunch of tea and whatnot for some reason, they
pussy don't have like that.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I'm going through a whole bunch of struggle over it.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
And you don't know, for whatever reason, if we made
it eight months out or whatever, and you didn't wanna
do the West Virginia or you wanted to do some
you know, Cockeysville for a while or something, that'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
We figured it out.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Like I said, I'll be fine with like Hackeysville or
tonight is keep calling Tonight, Simony whatever. Like I'm just saying,
like there are like little places up there that's.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Over fold like cool a year from now. No, I'm
saying that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I say, when I'm looking at that area, I'm like,
I wouldn't be it'd be cool doing that. It wouldn't
be super crazy from like addition from your job.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Actually, I think it'd be closer.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
And it's not closer. Oh you're talking about that.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yes, No, it's not closer to either, Joe. From here,
it's thirteen minutes from here. It's obviously it wouldn't be closer.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's fifteen minutes without the city. That's no, I'm saying.
From Cockysville, it's fifteen minutes from Timodi.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's like ten antway. No, I'm telling you, cause like exit,
I swum, like I clocked it.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's what I'm like.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I know, it's thirty minutes all together. It's fifteen minutes
from there. From Cockeysville to your job, it's like ten
minutes from I think seven to ten minutes of work
like that from Congressville to Timonia whatever like that.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Ooh, the Steelers are about to put it, are about
to put it away, about to win. But we can
talk about it after court, because then we can get
to the point where we can actually start making some goals.
You may not even still wanna be there, you may
wanna do something else, But right now, we gonna let
you have your moment.
Speaker 10 (23:19):
You can focus on that.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
And we'll talk about that later. It just popped in
my head. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I did not mean to be detracting from your wild
ass self.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Important humans who you are trying to figure out as
if they're logical. But here we are Okay, we're back.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I'm not saying humans are logical.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I'm just saying you're trying to logic it.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
You're trying to make it make sense, and it is
not going to make sense. They are contradictory on their face.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But why.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It don't make sa What good does it do? What
good does this delusion due to anybody? Because all it
does is have Jasmine Crockett in the The woman has
a lazy eye that in itself should just qualify her
from public office. We wouldn't put Forrest Whilaker in public
office because the photographs.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Would be distracted from policy.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
But I saw this business face and she had a smile,
and that I was moving over to the right.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I said, what is a happening?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And the eyelashes make it worse to bring attention to
her little I gotta ask, and then you gotta be
never to be cock goed and disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Stop bigger struggle with.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
The client who was hyping her up.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, you can't be cock god and disrespectful and wrong.
This fool talking about segregation going to a damn private school, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Go away like.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
They don't actually they don't actually elect anybody who's actually
she's working class legitimately because they know they burned the
old system down. But the certain things that's by design,
and I understand that. But when we talk about this
old religiosity nonsense, it's just frustrating because I'm trying to
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understand why, why do you want to believe? Why do
you even want to go up there? You ain't got
no business up there. You don't really got no business
up there. Why didn't want to go to him and
just be staring at God all day?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Like? Why that's a little weird.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
That's why God would be similar to would feel like
a supermodel, as in he's trying to walk by these
people just gawking and staring like that would just be uncomfortable,
I believe personally, so I could see why deities wouldn't
interact with humans because of just the staring.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You saw what happened to hold Sodom and Gomore thing.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
They tried to fuck the angels These niggas is nuts,
they said, they pretty let me get that ass.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Why is that the first thought? That's humans?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
For you?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
In this purest ron's form, anything pretty gotta fuck it,
male or female, unhinged. That's why I keep saying, the
fact that sex is the beginning and ending for most
human interactions, especially human adult interactions, is crazy to me.
That's why most of the motherfuckers can't hold a fucking conversation,
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especially these goofy niggas.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
I wonder if squat gigs was gonna be scary, huh.
I wonder if Dam's gonna be scared.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Listen, this motherfucker out here saving babies or bitches who
died like you shoulda been like, fuck that baby.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Wait, the bitch died. You went past where I was.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I didn't. You was paying attention.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You was literally paying attention, but you was also preoccupied
with stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
But I ain't gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
The point is I was paying attention and you was
listening and hearing it.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You may not be paid attention.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
But yeah, yeah, I didn't get to the park where
Trick died.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Why please knock it over, Please knock over the phone.
I told you, Why are you here? He wants you
say so, you know it's there.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Can you move either way?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
But while we here, let's have a let's do some
straight up comedy. So there's an individual who has lost
to goddamn mind that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
She needs to stop.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
This woman is too old for this, This woman his children,
This woman is clinically insane. She needs to leave everybody
alone but sit and she won't. This is what's going
to happen. We're now going to deal with what we
(28:06):
like to go to say, go back.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Him, let me don't log you on.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Wait, so did you finish Square Games?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I did not.
Speaker 12 (28:49):
I don't wanna be scared, though, maybe I'll watch it tomorrow.
Didn't you say we have some oath or something to do.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
The whole thing? Yes, we got the whole thing?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Oh goodness, oh my, oh, why why are we doing this?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Wait?
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Turn out that thing down.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
You gotta live up now it's going on.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Really, don't tell me. They blocked it everything shit.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
As they should.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Y'all.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Wanna see that ship?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
What do you mean it couldn't be playing denut ovens,
others out here blocking media getting together.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, I need somebody to have gotten this, y'all here.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
Just I was out here just saying anything, and I
need need before the bab others ain't shit, ain't never
gonna be shit, damn, saying and took down of his debate.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Why could not be played that wasn't that the big
that was tragedy captured.
Speaker 14 (30:14):
On five.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Others won't be stupid, alright, gonna have two one two
anti semitis right now, the hell's happening.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
That's if somebody finna stop.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
This from happening. Night sounds wondering, I.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Know, see this is Hey, what's the problem.
Speaker 14 (31:00):
Oh you know what?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Fine, everybody want to be all right, See that's the problem.
Everybody won't be a hater.
Speaker 15 (31:07):
I'm trying to do the law's works. And the problem is,
I'm so grateful that you're here.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 16 (31:25):
With child number four in toe it's just off camera.
What's going on with Macrone?
Speaker 17 (31:31):
I mean, it's the craziest thing that's ever happened.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
So Ovens is cland is Ovens. Ovens is being sued
by the French president's wife, who she keep calling a man.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Ovens made like a five part documentary about this woman.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's a grown man, and it has probably like five
to six million total views.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Alright, Why the president is sick of her shit and
has said bab He's been saying this for like a
Jesus like a year. He's been fucking with them because
she has nothing to do. This bitch has had kids,
and it's out here saying I'm now going to be
going against not old the Jews, but the French president's
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wife and call her a man because it's weird that
she's an old woman and he's a young man and
she he groomed. She groomed him because she was apparently
forty when he was like seventeen or fifteen, and they
started being in a relationship with some shit.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I don't know either way.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Ovens is out here telling the telling, the basically telling
the world. All they need to do is show us
her birth certificate and I'll stop.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'm like, first of all, Ovens, who the fuck are you?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It's y'all downsty for me.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
She's like, I would stop doing all this if she
just showed the birth satific or show some baby pitchures.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I'm like, out of your president's handbook. No oh, oh,
where's the note?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Where's the real quick?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, Donald jehosaphat Jerome Trump asked ask Barack Hussein Obs
for his birth certificate. Those are two fools going at it.
Who was in the same country.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
This bitch is fools. Barock didn't ask for that ship
actually did. We can talk about that right now. There's
the whole thing. But, like I said, two fools in
the political space doing this within country. This is America.
Dumb shit, So American shit. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
We all know American people are stupid. What you're not
about to do? Talk shit about and shoot across the pond.
They fire back with a lawsuit and you key saying
freedom of speech. That's not how that works. It don't
work internationally. That's like if you're selling that's like if
you're selling drugs in a drug sorry, yes, She's like
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they can't get me no, because literally if she crosses
over in the in the France.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
She's literally going right behind like it's that serious, as in,
they got.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
A warrants and she's doubling down. She could have she
could have stopped anytime. She could have been like you
know what, I was fucking round.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
She not really a man or. I might believe that,
but I'm just gonna leave alone. I got kissed.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Let me focus on somebody else. Nope, she is not
only saying bb Netting, y'all, who is a demon? She's
saying he's a demon, and that the French president's wife
is a man.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
This woman is trying to.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
And she's like, if I didn't die, I'm like Epstein,
I'm like, you trying your best to make yourself important
than you an idiot though, And then we got talking Carlson,
who's actually somebody who supports Russian He's like, know what.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
So much time you were supposed to be like.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Wax and doing the thing, because last time I did,
I gave myself muddy chops because when I pulled the
wax off.
Speaker 17 (35:14):
It was certainly in my life, it's it's been repeatedly crazy,
from the Trump call to the lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I didn't even know you just back up.
Speaker 16 (35:23):
A little bit for those who don't know what you're
referring to the Trump call heavy.
Speaker 17 (35:27):
So I was called by Trump in February, Emmanuel Macrone
had visited Trump and I had done this series about
It was about his wife, Brigitte Macrone, and the series
got a lot of use, and Emmanuel Macron personally flew
to DC and asked Trump to ask me to shut up,
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to just stop speaking about his wife.
Speaker 16 (35:53):
And was going to rise the level of international incident.
Speaker 17 (35:56):
No, and it's actually making me go back and historically
I'm thinking you know all the times we were told
that a war ended because of this or because of that.
If this was one element of negotiation of Emmanuel mal
Cron to Trump and the topic of why he was
you know, ostensibly there was to discuss the end of
the Ukrainian and Russian War. But you're taking Trump aside
and you're asking him to shut up this podcast or
in the US. I'm wondering if anything that we're told
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in our history books is real.
Speaker 16 (36:21):
That is exactly right. I have wondered the same. That
is just absolutely amazing. So he's a viewer.
Speaker 17 (36:49):
We know that he is a viewer. Him and his
wife and their entire entourage. They watch every minute of
my show. Trump certainly didn't I know Trump, I think
stays much more in the mainstream media. Yes, in terms
of watching what he watches.
Speaker 16 (37:02):
But he must have been completelyused.
Speaker 17 (37:04):
He sounded to be very confused. He said he was
very confused when a leader of the leader of France.
Speaker 16 (37:11):
Took him aside clear armed county mm hmmm.
Speaker 17 (37:14):
During negotiations for Ukraine and Russia to inquire about whether
or not he knew Canastons. And clearly it was an
emergency because it wasn't like Trump called me two days
after or a week after. It wasn't like, you know,
a side conversation that, oh, let's take care of that.
I was messaged by the intermediary hours after Macron left,
(37:34):
maybe even an hour after Macron had left, and said, like,
we need to get on the phone with you.
Speaker 16 (37:40):
The president of the United States.
Speaker 17 (37:41):
Well, first, the person said, somebody very close to the
President United States is asking me to ask you to
stop talking about Brigitte's penis.
Speaker 16 (37:50):
And I this is this is the true face of diplomacy.
Speaker 17 (37:54):
I love that true face diploma. And I laughed because
I said, Okay, no, bye, this seems ridiculous. Kind of didn't.
I kind of question whether or not it was even true.
But I liked the person who called me very much,
and I thought maybe just being a bit short there,
because I'm nine months pregnant and I'm or I was
at the time, I think five or six months pregnant,
and I tend to get short the more pregnant I become.
And so I called him back and I just said,
(38:14):
can you explain to me what's really going on? And
that individual told me that it was presented to him
as a condition of ending the Russian Ukrainian War, like
this was something that he brought up in the midst
of these negotiations. That's how it was, presents me from
a third party person. And then I was just completely floored,
and I just took a second look to my husband
(38:38):
and the first thing we said to one another is
no one will ever believe us, Like this is beyond
the realm of things that could be plausible, either going
to think I'm making this up, that I'm lying, and
even when I did eventually tell the story months later,
people like this, there's no way that this could have happened,
and until Trump didn't deny it. And then, of course
(39:01):
the Emmanuel Malcron is now suing me, and he included
as a part of a lawsuit he referred to that
phone call and how he believes that presenting it as
an element of the Ukraine Russian War was wrong, Like
he was like, and so he's nitpicking there.
Speaker 16 (39:14):
But so what is he suing you over? What is
the suit claim?
Speaker 17 (39:18):
Well, it claims a lot. It's two hundred pages, two
hundred pages, two hundred pages. And what's really interesting is
my series was based on a book I worked with
Xavier Pussard, who is a journalist, a very credible journal
journalist in France, who worked on the story for eight
years and ended up having to move to Italy, move
his family to Italy because of what Brigitte and her husband.
(39:38):
You know, France is a whole different political system, and
they can just bring charges.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
Against Bitarian country run completely by Macron and they pretend
that's countrue, but it is true.
Speaker 17 (39:48):
It is one thousand percent true. And so journalists that
first got wise to the fact that Brigitte Macron kind
of didn't exist for thirty years of her life were
harassed by the government. They filed charges against them for
first and foremost invasion of privacy. So there was ever
a dispute when she was bringing these charges about She
never bought a charge against people for saying that she
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was born in Man. And that's what should be made
clear to everybody, like that's not something that they ever
say is not true when it comes down to the
legality of it all going again.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
And then I am turning off my ears before it
just foolishous. First question, is it France an ally of
the US?
Speaker 7 (40:32):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Second question, is France specifically is this for your own
edification and a little bit of military infel intelligence community
type information. So there's something called five eyes.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
You may have heard in passing, but five eyes mean
five eyes partners or five eyes that can look at
certain types of classified information. So when you're doing some
type of.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Production of intelligence or whatever like that, and you label
it five eyes, that means there are five individual countries
that are able to look at the same type of
classified information because they're trusted partners.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Those five people are Great.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Britain, New Zealand, Australia, Wait, Grea Britain, New Zealand, Australia.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
France, and who's the other one?
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Shit?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
What one more?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Anyway, France is absolutely one. So I don't know why
they're saying these words. I don't know why you would
say that France is in authoritarian in the state. I
don't know why we're pretending that Friends has not been
(42:05):
a partner. Well, I don't know why we're pretending that
France isn't half of the reason why America is America.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
But okay, yeah, so that's why.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Is it relevant if the chick was born a man?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Nope, Okay, I'm done.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
That was it.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
That's all that's all of my equal breath.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
No real quick.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Why Ovens feels it's relevant is because Ovens feels that.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Truth is important. Let you let that marinate for a second.
And because truth is important.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
If individual was a man, then they should identify themselves one.
To her mind, you this isn't affecting anybody else, This
isn't affecting her life at all.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
It's almost as if she's not even in the country.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
This has anything to do with its actually as if
none of this is a damn business, which you will
probably be one hundred percent correct in.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
But as a freedom fighter for what caused anti.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Semitic causes, she feels that she must reveal the truth
of a man's wife and to her allegedly husband. Therefore,
she must make documentaries and investigative journalism about the wife
of the French leader, because you know, we like.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
Present herself on a platform about domestic interest only and
that the international things were taking away true for not.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
True for the yes Trump, so Donald Trump's to stay
out of Iran, but she should be in the personal
bin for France. Absolutely, you're all one hundred percent correct.
We should absolutely not support Israel, but we should absolutely
be in the pants of the wife of the French president,
because we are focused on domestic issues only.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
You're absolutely correct, okay, the courtrooms.
Speaker 17 (44:23):
But they first sued for invasion of privacy. Then they
sued for defamation regarding a statement and error that the
woman had made investigating when she said, in my opinion,
you know this document is fake. But that document actually
was real. It was a birth certificate relating to somebody
in the story, and so it was remarkably petty. And
this is what they do. They get very legalistic. We'll
(44:43):
keep you in the courtroom, will harass you. And for
Xavier things were happening where it was, they wanted him
to know that they were following him and that the
Secret Service was keep keeping an eye on him. They
never actually brought a suit against him until recently, at
the same time as mine. They're not suing a reformation,
even though he's the author of the book that I
based my entire series on. They are instead suing him
for cyber bullying.
Speaker 16 (45:06):
Cyber bullying ahead of state.
Speaker 9 (45:09):
I should just say, because it's true that the French
intelligence services everyone makes fun of France is incompetent and weak,
but their intel services are not incompetent or weak, and
after probably Cia Masaud, maybe the Russian intel.
Speaker 16 (45:23):
Services, like they are feared, and they should be feared.
They are feared, they are.
Speaker 9 (45:27):
Feared that they're very competent, they're violent, documented that killed people,
and they're nothing to play with.
Speaker 17 (45:33):
Really, right, that's why he picked up his family and
he moved.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
I get it.
Speaker 17 (45:36):
And so it was this tremendous act of bravery that
he did this, you know, putting not just his life
on the line, of the life of his wife and
his children, because the story here was so demented and
so twisted, and just also the broader consideration that you
could have an entire state colluding to protect a secret
of that magnitude. And what's so compelling about this story,
and I get into this in the first episode of
(45:57):
Becoming Brigitte, is that by the time it made us
way to the English speaking role, people thought that this
was like a as always far right conspiracy dug up
from the trenches of Reddit, And that's not what happened
at all.
Speaker 16 (46:08):
You know.
Speaker 17 (46:08):
The story begins with Emmanuel Macrone and his wife is
actually the journalists, the left leaning journalists, the continentac journalists
who wanted to celebrate Brigitte, wanted to do documentaries on Brigitte.
This wonderful woman is now empowered and what is she
going to do? And they were kind of getting threatened.
They were told to come to the Lys Palace and
there's only one person that they could talk to. They
(46:30):
couldn't find or verify anything about Brigitte's history or Brigitte's past,
and they sort of fell down the whole loom were like,
I don't know why I suddenly feel like I've done
something wrong for asking basic questions about the First Lady
of France. And so that's kind of where the series begins,
and it kind of takes you through what they went
through and what many people have gone through since just
trying to learn anything about the First Lady.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
So to be clear, one last night, she and all
of her pseudo intelligence, yeah, just said to her audience
that she does not that she is sympathizing with the
(47:15):
journalists MM who unasked and unprovoked, tried to make the
First Lady of Friends and LGBTQ icon without her permission.
Speaker 5 (47:29):
Has no idea why they did anything wrong or why
that wasn't well received. I just want to make sure
that that is what I heard.
Speaker 14 (47:39):
She said.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
They had good intentions.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Therefore, that was a crazy response from the first lady
because this person was trying to put her in a
positive light, even though they didn't ask the permission of
the first lady, or they didn't even ask what's going
to be in said presentation, or they didn't even say
(48:11):
this person could have an access to any type.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Of information that they may have learned about the first lady.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
So it almost seemed like an invasion of privacy, possibly
if nobody actually gave permission to do these type of things,
even if allegedly the initial point of it was well intentioned.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
So now this from the same person who argued with
Nick Colin says about whether or not she had ever
met him, when on Twitter she had actually said it
years prior.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Conveniently, for Good doubled down on her argument, said it was.
Speaker 6 (48:41):
About somebody else that she was it was instead bring
her personal information.
Speaker 5 (48:47):
Doesn't understand any of this, Okay, Okay, I'm gonna put
on my HiPhones because I can't.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I realized that when people say this is the thing,
I guess that's a normal thing. I guess the defense
that if you say you've never met somebody, because Kat
Williams did this too, and it was weird because he
did it.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
To Raphael's a D. I mean Noel, I mean Allas
a D.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Cause it's a weird thing that people do when they're like,
I'm bigger than somebody and they trying to look down
on them, like, oh, I don't really know them. I
never met him, I don't know him like that, and
then like, no, we've actually talked before. I'm like, I'm
not saying we were friends, but I'm saying you can't
say to somebody that you don't know who I am,
but we've actually interacted before, Like no, But what I
(49:33):
meant was like, we're not friends, Like no, no, no,
stop that.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
You know that's not what they meant. They said, have
you heard or have talked about this before? Like, no,
met him in my life.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
You can't say that, even if you've said something in passing,
like you can't say that, and she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Understand, and she didn't. But this isn't only her thing.
I've noticed. It's a thing people would do.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
When That's why I said Katwilliams to do, like I mean, yeah, okay,
so this is the story I can I'm okay, I
did know him. I mean he was in the same spot,
and like, wait, that wasn't a story. The story was
like you've never even heard of this person. And then
you're like, wait, okay, so I gave him money. Wait
then how would you know like he was entitled? Wait,
how would you know he's entitled if you never met him.
That's what I'm like, why are people doing this weird thing?
(50:16):
And at first I was I didn't know what it was,
but it's really that's why I'm like, it seems pretentious
because you're like, I don't know this person, Like okay,
because you could simply because you don't even got to
go into it. You can be like, oh, yeah, I
might have talked to him in past it and be
done with it. Like there's not even you could like
deflect every other invent like invasive question after that, saying
(50:39):
do you know the possibly Like no, I just talked
to him in passing, Like that's it, Like I'm going
too much deeper than and you could just keep going
off of that and be done with it. But it's
like they're so afraid to even be quote unquote associated
with somebody at a time.
Speaker 6 (50:52):
I'm like, it is exactly what you said first, which
is it is a pretentious thing.
Speaker 5 (50:59):
I am bigger than you. You don't even come across
my radar. Who are you peasant down there?
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Because even I was listening to the Ovens this morning
when she was listening talking to the gay gay man,
who all of.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
A sudden, those two ities sound insane.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
But Ovens was like at the end, like, yeah, I
was like safeguarding you because I found out that the
gay man now works directly for Kanye. So there we go,
and apparently Ovens was the gatekeeper, and apparently they had
beef in the pass and he's like, he's like, yeah,
I just didn't think that you were good for Yay's image,
(51:35):
and I wasn't really sure.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
This talentless hack.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Let's talking and he's like yeah, but we got over it.
And when she found out that we found out both
y'all's anthezemitic.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
But that's not the point. The point is I'm like,
she's one of those who you can't give even a
tiny bit of power, Like.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
You can't even you can't even make her a shift
manager at McDonald's. She's the type who will say she
ran the franchise on the whole South side of the
United States. Yeah, correct, And she's got a purple shirt
like she out here saying like, oh I run all this,
(52:29):
Oh you mean to start now this whole division?
Speaker 2 (52:32):
What how long you been there? Two weeks? And you
can't talk her out of it. You can't talk her down.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
Because talking to a black on that's I'm like, was
I'm like, how the hell you use the defense because
that's what I'm like, this whole sword and shield thing
that she used the Bible because why she's gonna start
dropping Christ real quick, and these two are gonna start
speaking real.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Bibly real quick, and you're gonna be like, weren't that?
Speaker 12 (53:02):
Like you?
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Is this the ant? Like what is happening right now?
Speaker 5 (53:06):
I can't, I can't, I can't. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 10 (53:10):
You're trying to stress me out.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
To be clear, this was posted eight days ago and
had three point six million views.
Speaker 9 (53:16):
I shall not particularly It's an amazing story and for
so many reasons, but for the one that you just
described that this was actually well known in France.
Speaker 16 (53:26):
It all took place in public.
Speaker 9 (53:27):
But I don't think one in a million Americans had
any idea at all until your series came out, and
the initial reaction to your series was, well that now
we know Candice is insane, really going off the deep bend.
Speaker 16 (53:40):
I have some man come on now.
Speaker 9 (53:42):
And then as the series progressed and became one of
the biggest podcast series in the country and sort of sober,
people were saying, actually, you should listen to this.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
It says a lot about Americans. I haven't watched it
because I have no desire to, and everybody who has
should be ashamed of her.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Damn, y'all.
Speaker 9 (54:00):
Growth, this is pretty this is pretty wild, pretty compelling.
But I just want to get to the lawsuits. So
like they're suing, they're not. They're suing you for defamation.
Speaker 17 (54:13):
For things that I never said, which is they know
that this lawsuit. This is why I called it a
PR strategy. This lawsuit was filed for the press, right
because she just lost her defamation case against two journalists
in France, and now everyone was reporting, Wait, you said
that this was the big case that proved, or you
presented it as if you were suing them on this
claim of you being a man or a woman, and
(54:34):
now you've lost that. In France, this is your home territory.
What's going on? And so I think she called the
lawyers and were like, just just file a lawsuit because
it's very sloppy. The points weren into one another, like
for first, they argue that I'm doing it for money,
then they make the argument that I was fired for
talking speaking about it, so that doesn't make any sense.
It can't be both, and it's a bunch of stuff
that I didn't say. They're behaving like mainstream journalists where
(54:57):
they'll take a couple of words that I said, like gangster,
criminal and gangster, but then they add their own sentence
to it and they're like, she accused her of being
a criminal and a gangster. So it's very sloppy, And
what they're doing is they're just biting their time. They
don't want the world to look which this was a
very bad mistake, a very bad way to go about it.
But they want the world to believe that she has
(55:18):
a claim against me that they well, we're suing therefore,
you know, because this podcast lied. But it's way too late.
I mean it truly, it's it's everyone is aware of
what's happened. This only made the series go viral, and
now it's going viral in Asia. You know, I'm getting
all of these emails from people in China saying, this series.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
And we are here, she is insane to be clean,
she needs help.
Speaker 16 (55:52):
And needs to be stopped going viral.
Speaker 17 (55:55):
They'ren't even on YouTube, so I don't know how they're
watching it in China. But it was a sick because
obviously that's.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Racist, so they have YouTube in China. It's just centered.
The Ovens absolutely would fall within the censorship because she's
actually making America look absolutely ridiculous. So this is absolutely
propaganda that they'll be saying, see, don't go over there.
Speaker 17 (56:23):
Now people are going, okay, something must be true. You know,
a president of a foreign country does not sue a
mom that does her podcast in her basement.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
She did the thing a mom, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (56:47):
I want to hear about the oath. But if you
don't before I go to bed. China, you're routine.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
So say you had a with like the female German
president and you went online over like chancellor.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Chancellor and you're like.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
She a man, and she's like what and it just
happened and you had like millions of people following you
and then you heard administration said, man, if you don't
stop this, we're gonna just see the shit out of you.
Speaker 14 (57:26):
And you're like.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
German president from my American home, German president is attacking
a single mom.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
And I'm just trying. I'm just voicing my opinion as
an American.
Speaker 14 (57:44):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (57:44):
I heard it. I heard it. I wish I hadn't,
but I heard it.
Speaker 17 (57:51):
Because she spoke something that was not true. Like, there's
clearly something that they want hidden, and so everyone's taking
a close look at the series.
Speaker 16 (57:58):
Yeah, that's not the way to hide things.
Speaker 9 (58:00):
The way to hide things is say, poor Cannice, nice woman,
obviously mentally ill, you know, come on now, that's that's
the way to do it.
Speaker 16 (58:07):
And sophisticated liars do that.
Speaker 9 (58:10):
So it is interesting they are they're responding in a
way that clearly is driven by emotion, right fear.
Speaker 16 (58:16):
I mean, that's my read. I don't.
Speaker 9 (58:25):
Really know why they're responding, of course, but looking at
it this it's so interesting. You may have noticed this
is a great country with bad food. Our food supply
is rotten, it didn't you. Halt and Hips dot Com
slash Chucker.
Speaker 17 (58:39):
Urca is the same sort of a beast as Francis,
and that while we have said that you can't ask
us any questions, we see for cyber bullying, there is
something bull whatever, whatever the claims are here, but there
is something about it where once you really arrive at
a truth, what I find the reaction is for the
people that are incense the fact that you're presenting that
(59:01):
truth is I'll impoverish you. Yeah, and I've seen this
over and over again. It's like, Okay, she told the truth,
but our response to that is going to be demands
that she get fired. Right, she should lose her livelihood
for speaking the truth. She should lose. And that's why
Jake Tapper, I don't know if you've seen it. You
probably haven't because it's Jake Tapper, but he sits down
(59:21):
with Tom Claire, who is a lawyer on this case,
and Jake Tapper is doing the absolute most to make
this just the easiest interview for Tom Claire. He's sitting
across from him and he's like, she's deranged and she's crazy,
and she's a conspiracy theorist. So much so Jake Tapper,
but so much so that people in the comments were like,
now I want to watch a series. His own viewers
thought this was just so over the top. But think
(59:41):
she hears Tom Clair and he asks him like a
basic question. He's like, you know, what evidence did you
present to her that per sheets a man? And Tom
Claire can't answer the question. He's like, we you know
we there was. You can read the claims. It's extensive,
and you know we told her that she was a woman.
They never presented any evidence. We went to them before
we published the series. We were in touch with Tom Claire,
(01:00:02):
Claire and Locke. We sent them a list of questions.
We said, look, we won't even do this series if
you answer these basic circle yes or no questions and.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Who the hell are you? Imagine you opened your email
and Cad is over like Lou and I heard all
these things about you? Is the true? Who the hell
are you?
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Why are you in my inbox? Or delete?
Speaker 14 (01:00:37):
What?
Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
What generation?
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Is an American entitled that you said you're not even
a journalist even though she went to school for journalism.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Jesus Christ, you're in a quote unquote investigative journalist from
the comfort of your home, meaning you don't an investigative
damn thing, and through your investigative journalism.
Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
You've discovered the story of the century. You with absolutely
no actual media.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Credentials and who has been fired from the only actual
media company that has some type of reputation online and
now you're an independent media journalist.
Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
You're going to use you and your.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Rabid file wing of fools to bully form pr firms
or government administrations to answer questions you han't know when
you ask.
Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
It, I can't help you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Did I miss the memo? Like, didn't like didn't you
like need like permission to get embassy? Like wasn't it
like a Department of State?
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Like didn't you like need things like credentials or something
like to talk to people overseas in leadership positions?
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
And I think because you were you online and nobody
in real life. This I'm just this is a general question.
Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
This is a general questions article yesterday that said.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Would you go to the president John Hopkins and say
I'm me bitch? Listens like would you do this? And
you in the same state.
Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
I opened an article yesterday on CNN that said.
Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
Not releasing the Epstein files is wrong for the victims
who need a voice in this.
Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
Sir, I'm done.
Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I am done.
Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
I have nothing to say about this foolishness, folks.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Are I'm sorry, of course, real quest, real quick, real quick.
A couple of clarifying So what was said by Communist.
Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Dudes network is that the release of the child porn
and the viewing of it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
By people who weren't in the room, which is first
a crime and second inappropriate and third apparently healthy for
the victims. I was gonna say traumatizing to the victims,
(01:03:31):
like most psychological studies say.
Speaker 10 (01:03:38):
You've got You've got the thing on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Oh yes, So the release of the Epstein files is
going to be therapeutic for the victims. So the distribution of.
Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
Child therapeutic is that it was important for the voice.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
A boring for them to have a voice. I don't
know child was vocal.
Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
I'm not sure how this is advantageous to them, but
that is definitely what they put in print multiple times.
Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
I am done, Like I think is that gas like
it was?
Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
I was like the way that I just crinkled up
my face and closed the app because I was like, no.
Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
That's why I keep saying everybody who wants the files
is gross because the implication is that you want to
see somebody getting fucked and that's gross.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I was, I would say, and then under.
Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
That it is somehow beneficial to them.
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
To the victims who are involved, who possibly may as
the Beyond Register said, I have said, let's not show them.
Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
And then when it said, well, one of the victims
has moved out of the country and has not said
anything about it, as if it would.
Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Somehow be helpful to the real reason they moved out
of the country.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
It's just in case, and that's the case they lost.
They damn mind because this is the crazy part they
can rationalize. They don't even put this together. The person
moved out of the country just in case they lost,
They damn mind and released it. That's why they're like,
there's a possibly, the person said. The person said, there's
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a possibility that this leadership might listen to these sickos.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I let me go. And they're like, the victimized person
abandoned the country out of fear of the release, We
should release it.
Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
What of it not being released? Them not having a voice?
They need literally.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Like you're gonna move out because it wasn't released and
you don't have a voice. That's not how that works
at all.
Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
You wouldn't leave if you knew it wouldn't be released,
because that would mean you have the voice to tell
the story without any visual evidence.
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
That's what I'm saying. I don't people. I don't think
people know what a voice means.
Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
A voice.
Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Is words and chords that are text to vocals. But
they said to have a voice. Obviously there's what it means.
So Evans is out here given the voice to the
voice list.
Speaker 17 (01:06:35):
Was Brigitte Macrone the first lady born a woman? I
mean that basic of questions. Did she ever live as
a person named Berenique before the transition? Temporarily Brigitte lived
as a person named Vernique. They refuse to answer these
yesterm no questions. Obviously, if you're gonna prove actual malice,
you have to you have to present to the court,
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which is it's obviously a very high bar that's been set,
which I don't necessarily even agree with that bar, by
the way, and your time were Sullivan set. But obviously
you have to prove that I acted, I knew the truth.
Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
And I act.
Speaker 16 (01:07:05):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 17 (01:07:06):
I was desperate to get to the truth and said
I would stop doing this series. We also offered for
me to get on a plane and fly to France
to interview to get Brigitte's side of this. You know,
I want to make sure I'm not colored by having
read Becoming Brigitte and reading the series. There could be
another side. And it was essentially a big f you
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and said Tom Claire comes back. She doesn't have to
answer your question. She that doesn't have to prove to you.
Speaker 9 (01:07:33):
They retain tom Claire and Libby lock then or tom claiir.
So tom Clare and Libby Locke are married, second marriage
for him. But I know them, and they have a
law firm I believe in its specialized in making people
shut up.
Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Okay, so you noticed that? So he does Okay, so
you do know so I'm not the only one who
noticed that he does that. He does that, like that
parentheses thing, like you're like, yeah, so you understand. Uh,
the director of France.
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
You know, the one who had two marriages and fucked
his kids.
Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
And wait, what why are you why are you doing
this sir? Why did you just say the person and
why are you just say he's one of the people
who gets up my lockdown Like he's like yeah, of course,
like he went directly home when he's sucking around his wife.
Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
What wait, what?
Speaker 18 (01:08:23):
Why are you putting things in there that nobody asked.
I would not trust I have because I always keep.
Speaker 16 (01:08:38):
It right now through intimidation.
Speaker 9 (01:08:41):
They tried it with me and uh in a in
a really brutal, cruel way, I would say, to try
and to scare you into shutting up. So that itself,
I don't think anyone regards Tom Clair is a good
lawyer at all, but certainly you know his behavior.
Speaker 16 (01:08:55):
Is designed to intimidate you.
Speaker 9 (01:08:56):
So the fact that they hired them at the outset,
that's the behavior of someone who just wants to scare
you into shutting up.
Speaker 17 (01:09:03):
And the timing of when they first sent us a
letter was actually December of last year, sorry, the end
of November of last year. We missed the letter because
they sent it to an inbox that we would have
never been checking. It was a very weird inbox, like
where you would go to return a T shirt. And
because we missed that, and I'm glad I missed it
because I probably would have been scared. I think they
knew because that was right when I began speaking with
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Xavier Boussard and I was in London at the time,
and I had agreed to interview him, but nobody knew
I was going to do this interview. So what made
them suddenly send this intimidating letter to Tom Claire sent it.
Speaker 16 (01:09:40):
They'd already retained him, They had.
Speaker 17 (01:09:41):
Retained him, and he sent a letter. And I think
that they were monitoring Xavier Bussard. I think they were
monitoring either his communications or monitoring They have that he
was flying to London to sit down to an interview
with me, and they sent it just a week before
I sat down with him.
Speaker 9 (01:09:55):
Well, keep in mind the subject of your story controls
some of the most competent intel services in the world.
Wreckt correct ahead of state. There are no rules at all,
which is enough to make you a little uncomfortable if
you think about it. Yeah, and the fact that they
would hire those two lawyers. By the way, his wife,
Libby Locke, is Bill Ackman's lawyer who actme uses to
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make people shut up interesting by sending hysterical letters, screechy
letters threatening to.
Speaker 16 (01:10:21):
Destroy you if you keep talking about the client. I mean,
it's really thuggish.
Speaker 9 (01:10:28):
Let's just go through, But Queen, just go through like
chronologically how this unfolded. So at the core of the
story is the allegation that Brigitte Macrone is not who
she says she is, and that would include her sex
is not what she says.
Speaker 17 (01:10:42):
It is erect that she was born a man named
Jean Michel trov Now. And I'm aware if you have
not watched the series, that sounds crazy, because that was
me when I first saw the headline. Yes, no, no,
I mean I was alerted to it by the Daily Mail.
I thought it was such a crazy, insane headline, but
it was The Daily Mail had done this, had published
an article saying that with a video of m a
Crone denying claims his wife was a man, And I
just thought that's really funny, Like, what could possibly be
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going on in France but the president has to deny
a claim that his wife's a man. But something that
caught my eye was just as Razarna's article, they made
no effort to debunk it, like it was sort of
like it was that typical New York Times it's so crazy,
it's it's like, okay, but if it's.
Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
So, didn't he just say why am I listening to?
Where are my headphones?
Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (01:11:23):
Are my headphones.
Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
So that's like saying, hey, so also looks like a man.
I'm not a man. Fuck you. They went through no
effort to debunk it. Were she supposed to pull down
her pants?
Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
I mean, is that how you debunked that? If somebody
says that, even in France, I say, that's a been.
Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Much even in France. The dude doing the the investigation. Again,
I don't know how it's relevant.
Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
It's not real.
Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
And if she so, you just pissed off because she
don't want to be an icon for you.
Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Like again, how is any of this relevant? Why are
they terrorizing this family? They already in the political spotlight.
Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Like for what.
Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Like you're like care the lead these people, But there
is no reason. Yes the fault.
Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
No listen, niggas in Paris. It's full circle. I told you,
as bad as insane. He is nothing but an issue.
He is the He's a thorn in the world side,
and he's caused by America. Kanye is the central problem.
That's why I said Kanye and Drake could literally be
this central news. And I blame Kanye for Drake because
he said Drake is the best rapper out there. And
(01:12:48):
then now you got Drake out there saying UK rappers
are better than American I told you it's problematic.
Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
It's problematic. Yes, you know, you know he is less
less Listen, you know, you.
Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Know dark skinned, you know, medium colored niggas with light skin,
nigga tendencies.
Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Who are esthetically not that pleasing and don't know how
to work out.
Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
But walk around with a weighted jacket. You know, please stop.
Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
I'm in the band and the band. I am the band.
He was out here using the bands and everything in
the middle.
Speaker 10 (01:13:25):
Of them this last time.
Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
I'm asking, so are we doing the things?
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Huh do what.
Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
Are we doing the oath thing tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Or oh yeah, where's the.
Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
There?
Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
But yes, fine, don't it's fine.
Speaker 17 (01:13:44):
She just you know, posts some photos of her. Obviously,
she's got three kids. It's gotta be tons of photos
of her raising her children. There's nothing. They had one
solitary photo, and when you look at the photo, it
was very obvious. And this is before I got into
the details that she looks a lot more like the
little boy that's on the left then she does. Who
they were trying to report was the little girl that
was sitting on the family member's lap and so I
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got into it kind of very organically. I was like,
this is weird, like what's going on in France that
the president has to make a comments on the situation.
And then I found a website where it explained it,
and I instantly realized there is something here, like you
just you don't have any photos of yourself for thirty
years of your life, and the two photos that you've
given have been given to the public from a woman
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who has quite literally been charged with forging documents. She's
I mean, she's a thug. I mean, Mimi Marshawn. They
had to eventually get rid of her forging documents, thuggery,
things of that nature, of a criminal nature. She's the
only one. Everyone's gonna go through her to get any
information about your past. This is so strange, I mean,
it's so kooky that you wouldn't just the defense to
this is just, hey, could you show us any pictures
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of your living for these thirty years? You know you
had allegedly three children. Do you guys take any photos
while you were raising them? Maybe when you were in
the host No? No, no, no, Tuck, are they There's
there's nothing there.
Speaker 9 (01:15:04):
So it's an amazing allegation, a stunning allegation, a bewildering allegation.
Speaker 16 (01:15:10):
But I think the legal and the moral question is
did you give an opportunity?
Speaker 9 (01:15:16):
Did you give the Prime Minister and his wife an opportunity,
the Macrones the opportunity to respond to the allegation before
the series ran?
Speaker 16 (01:15:24):
So that's my question.
Speaker 17 (01:15:25):
Weeks to respond?
Speaker 16 (01:15:26):
What way did you do that? Did you call them?
Speaker 17 (01:15:28):
Did you via TM? Claire was their lawyer, so it
was it. Actually they kind of made a mistake. They
messaged us first to kind of intimidate us and say,
you know, I don't you're working on this thing or
you're talking you know.
Speaker 16 (01:15:40):
They say how they knew you were working on it?
Speaker 9 (01:15:42):
I don't.
Speaker 17 (01:15:42):
I am not clear. Because what was interesting is they
in that first letter they included claims of what I
said while I was working out a daily wire. That
was the previous March. So you're responding to something that
I said in March. We're now in December, So what
triggered you? Like, clearly it had to have been that
I had just interviewed Xavier Pussard and they were aware
of it. So then they said, okay, send her out
a letter to intimidate her and obviously getting a letter.
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For most people you get a letter from a sitting
president of France, you're going to go, okay, well, I'm
just going to be quiet and not say anything more
because I don't want to get involved in this. But
for me, it just made me even more curious, and
so to be sure, I said, well, I'm glad we
have a lot of communication established because I'm certainly not
interested in defaming you. I'm not interested in lying. Obviously,
I would do myself a disservice if all of this
was complete crap and it turned out that I had
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been peddling it. So here are my questions, very simple,
yes or no questions. Did you ever live as Veronique?
Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Who is Jehn?
Speaker 17 (01:16:34):
Michel truck No refused to answer.
Speaker 9 (01:16:36):
They just instantly got so you presented the allegations then,
which they, of course were aware of the people had
made others, not you, that she's not really who she
says she Isn't you said, can you explain?
Speaker 17 (01:16:48):
Yeah, and honestly didn't require much of an explanation. We
also asked, can you give us any photos of you
living through this thirty year period? I mean, pretty easy stuff.
If you're actually concerned and you're gonna pretend you're so
trauma ties into famed because of this story, I would
have been like, yeah, of course, here I am. Here's
me in middle school, here's me, I'm a cheerleading team,
here's me the first day I held my first son.
Speaker 14 (01:17:08):
Here's me.
Speaker 17 (01:17:09):
It's such an easy thing to debunk that it requires
the suspension of common sense to believe that this is
a conspiracy theory, because it's just it's so easy to debunk,
and yet they refuse to do it, and they're being
extremely petty and going after every single person that speaks
about it.
Speaker 16 (01:17:24):
Now, if they ever provided that evidence to anybody, no,
that's the point.
Speaker 17 (01:17:28):
They haven't.
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
To this day.
Speaker 17 (01:17:30):
They would have never had to do anybody because everyone
would have been laughed at them. Like if someone was
working on a story saying I live as a man
for thirty years, I don't need to lawyer up. I
want you to publish that story so that I can
then come out and say this person is a psychopath. Clearly,
here is the trove of me growing up with my sisters.
Here's my middle school yearbook. To the contrary, even when
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Xavier Pussar because he has been worked them for ten
years and therefore filing paperwork with the governments who get pictures.
John Michelle Traguna has a military file.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
He also all right, oh real quick, cause it's gonna
come up.
Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
How do you, for example, if you're getting into a
conversation with somebody like a layman about mental health stuff,
and you hear them saying a whole bunch of pop
psychology and then you want to stick your pluck your
eyes out with your charpy, how do you engage in
that conversation and their response and when you start responding, they.
Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Either don't.
Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Feel they should respect your authorities simply because you have
a degree in it, and they also have access to
the same information.
Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Therefore they filure on the same level. Like how do
you navigate that?
Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
I don't like, I mean, like, I'm just trying to
figure out, because that's what it seems now is that
people who are not academics now speak with PRC.
Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
For example, like people who want.
Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
To go into law and think they know law, and
because they may have one run case fraudulently, they believe
that they now should be in law.
Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
So people like that who.
Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Will engage people like me who you know, actually defended
the law, the basic one, the constitution. They'll like debate
weird things with some weird sense of authority when they
barely know the constitution.
Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Audacity a hell of a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Listen, niggas holds and audacity. It just comes hand in hands.
I figured that in twenty twenty five. But I'm just saying,
how do you especially when dealing with clients who speak
from like a level of authority from areas they know
nothing about. So you may not necessarily be a very
handy individual, and you would not purport to say I
know how to be out here fixing cars and removing
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type of all the stuff. You're like, I'm over do
it to either an individual who may know how to
do it or just.
Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Call it a plumber or electrician or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
But there would be business out here sitting and saying
you know what you you know, you know, it's not
hard to to rot to use a router, And they're like,
what is a router?
Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Like why are you talking down to me? I'm like, like,
what are we talking about? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Like real like seriously, like people like it's not that
hard to build a website, and then you're like, what's
the last website you built?
Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Why you gotta be like that, Like wait when you talking.
Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
About like, I can show you the website I built,
but if you're saying it ain't that hard, it shouldn't
be that expensive, I'm like, all right, cool, where's the
last one you built? I'm like, okay, So that's why
it would cause probably like five hundred and six hundred
apparently from what I'm I'm apparently Georgie to myself, cause apparently,
motherfucker is that like ten thousand dollars big websites?
Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
But I will indulge you.
Speaker 6 (01:21:06):
This is the last one you get, all right, not
last one when you've been oh no, because I'm no,
because anyway, this is the last one you get. I
had something similar today in which, like I mentioned one
of my clients needed an emergency session, the Jazmine Crockett
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supporter and made a comment and said, you know, I
feel bad like when I am talking and it's not
the perst time I've heard this, but they kind of
took it to the extreme both time. Yeah, but they
were like, so I feel bad that, you know, when
I'm explaining the things that are going on. It's all
from my perspective. So you're thinking that my partner is
(01:21:52):
this bad person. And I said, please give me some credit.
Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
She just said my.
Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Way, she said that to you.
Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
Yes, I said, please give me some credit.
Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
That's that question. Yes, that's low. Sounds condescending.
Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
Again, just like I just said, so something similar.
Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
So I said, please give me some credit and my
professional ability that I understand that what you are saying
is from your perspective, and that I am not presuming
that you are one hundred percent right and that said
person is one hundred percent wrong. I know all of
that and how to do that, and I make my
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recommendations or suggestions with that in mind.
Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
That is very similar to what it is that you
are speaking about.
Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Real quick, I understand she's old, she's not older than you. Yes, oh,
this is all definitely the audacity. Okay, So now I
get to do the thing. She does understand that you,
(01:23:04):
at a minimum, know what the word perspective is bare men,
since you graduated high school.
Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
So by that logic, and she's coming to you, I
would only guess.
Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
That one who counsels would only possibly figure, at a
bare minimum the things you're telling them is from possibly
their personal perspective, So it would only stand to reason
(01:23:56):
that if it is from your personal perspective, which where
the mean that the counselor is assuming is as you,
it would be your perspective, there may be things that
may be skewed from reality since it is your perspective
and you are coming to counseling because clearly you're clinically unsane.
Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
So the need to.
Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Double check after payment is strange to me.
Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
On why you would need to just tell your counselor.
I hope you understand this is from my perspective as
you're looking at them wondering why they are telling you
that this is from their perspective, as if you didn't
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know they are them.
Speaker 6 (01:25:00):
Okay, just making sure if it was someone who had
said something similar before or who wasn't having a crisis
and it was purely audacity, like I have said to PRC,
I would have said something more to the tune of.
Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
Therapy is a choice.
Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
You asked me for my recommendations based on my professional skills.
Speaker 7 (01:25:34):
Traditionally, bitch, First of all, you made ship, meaning that.
Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
At any time, get the fuck like if at any
point my services are not up to your standard, you
can go. And you know what, I completely respect that,
because I mean, as a personal trainer obviosusally, I'm gonna
do the same thing, like if bitching gonna show up,
I will absolutely keep hitting ignore. But no, it is
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just a strange thing that's happening. And now we got
Ovens out here actingly like she got a master's degree,
saying words that are incorrect and playing this real weird
victim narrative that she ironically had been fighting against. Cause
to be clear, Ovens was one of the ones going
to college campuses arguing with these kids talking about their
(01:26:32):
day two sensitive in Nay pussy you remember what Others
was arguing all these damn feminists and the feminists don't
cut the ass out, saying, bitch, you are literally the
feminist dream shuit the fuck up. And she didn't even understand,
Like that was the most insane thing. The Femini's like,
you don't even understanding that you're the cod Like how
are you arguing against something that you are literally you're representing,
(01:26:52):
Like it's hard for you to say, like, y'all feminists,
y'all are just saying too much and just that and
the third, like, are you stay a whole wife for
three kids? And you basically shit, like what's happening right now?
They're like, you want to stand like you are? Do
you understand irony right now? She's like no, and they're
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like really. She's like, how is this ironic? I'm married.
They're like, are you quiet? She's like, that's not what's feminine.
I'm like, it's a feminist. I can't do this shit.
That's why you can't watch Ovens too long. Ovens will
(01:27:35):
make you dag gonna go in the directions. You out
here cheering out for your cheering for white people, you
wishing for genocide. You out here just joining the massade because.
Speaker 6 (01:27:44):
Of because of the fact that even pair of the
CIA and the Masade and then put France behind them.
Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
I'm so tired of American inceptualism.
Speaker 6 (01:27:53):
I am so tired of people on that not you
putting you know what, I would have even been better
had he been like Massad. No, I wouldn't have because stop,
because I just.
Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Need people to keep I need people to respect on Israel,
name like, why don't they stop playing with these people?
Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
If they'll stop and leave these people alone, You out
here acting like France got killers too. Boys.
Speaker 5 (01:28:20):
Shut up, Yes he did, yes he did.
Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Ches shut up with his che the baby a killer
or three from France.
Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
But when you're thinking about assassins, France is not the
first place nobody goes. Everybody knows this. There are two
places you go before anyone. United States and Israel. That's
what if you want nothing, if you want no no
ties to nobody, and the government just disappears. Those are
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the two places because they know how to shut the
fuck up. Everybody else talked too much. Everybody knows it
to be clear. Why, by the way, to boats hated
both of them. That's why there's Big Satan and Lil
Satan according to the Middle East. Big Satan is America,
Lil Satan is Israel. Why because both got nukes? For one,
I don't know why people are surprised that somebody who
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has everybody trying to kill them would not have something
in their back pocket. That's crazy. That's like being in
the street and saying you got a gun. Why are
you asking dumb questions? If I have one, it made,
why would you it would only be to be brandished
if being used. Why are you ask us stupid questions,
do you ask an Israel you got nukes? Yes, we
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about to tell all y'all what we got y'all who
hate us anyway, Yes, let's tell you snitching as motherfuckers
if we got nukes in our back pocket.
Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
And you already say we ain't.
Speaker 6 (01:29:45):
Shit, you also suck because I downloaded that David Banner
song and the way that it.
Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Hits, it hits too hard. Listen, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
And when you hear and when you listen to the lyricure,
like this moves my spirit because I'm telling you it
looks because I wanna said David Banner is a genie,
because you would think it would just be funny in
service level. No, and especially the third verse he goes
goes off and I'm like, you don't need to do it.
He could have just left the hook. It would have
been hard as fuck. I'm playing for you niggas, But
(01:30:15):
he could have left the hook and it would have
been fine. He had to just go off and be
very specific. He says, all you nicks, she said for you.
He's living on you, bitches, couches for you, hold out
here selling ass and fucking up.
Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
You just ain't gonna go nowhere because that finance.
Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
He said, all of it.
Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
He said you he said, you out running Santa Annual
kids running around and paid your rent. He said, God yo,
he said Lucilla Jesus, he said all forty third, Like
you know what, this is not necessary, like bitch is
her dance on the first time he said that nigga't
need to call me out like that. It was too specific.
It was too specific. Like that's how you knew he
(01:30:56):
was fed up, like at that point, because that's I
think what is is like most successful ones, because that's
when he came out. No, I'm talking about that album
because that's when he came out with that whisper song.
It was that whisper one because remember the ye Ain't
Twins started it and then he took it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
And made it even better. I'm sorry, ye Ain't Twins
is ignorant. He know how to talk.
Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
That's why I like ye Ain't Twins started. First of all,
Get the fuck away from your stick ass breath.
Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Don't hate, no, listen, don't hate as correct or we'll
compare what care of compared contrast?
Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Oh we'll do what?
Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
So you know ninety one minutes. Okay, I'll close it out,
but no, real quick, let it go. No, but real quick.
Speaker 6 (01:31:45):
This is how it is.
Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
You know, the yee A Twins whisper song versus the
David Banner wiss David banner. That sounds like something you'd
want whispering as opposed to the we Ain't run.
Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
You'd been like, bruh. First of all, your breath is whole,
because you know you like all the gold, all of it?
You too, crow.
Speaker 6 (01:32:06):
I really want aware are they now on all the
niggas who in the early two thousand got gold and
didn't go back to the dentist.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
I really want to where are you now? First of all?
The where are you now about teeth? Is Juel Santana. Listen.
Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
I will never I will always clown him for him,
not like you, like ya?
Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
How you got you too?
Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
I felt so old.
Speaker 6 (01:32:27):
The other day my client asked me if I liked
my new car, and I was like, nah, not really.
I was like, I'm gonna have to do some stuff
to make to get it to where I like it.
And uh, that's funny that you asked me that, because
I was just texting one of my friends and I
was like I'm gonna have to do like exhibit my
pet my ride.
Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
And I was like, oh, you don't know what pemp
my riot is, do you? And they were like, I
see it on the rerun side.
Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
You know what, you know what you have gone, You've
already done it.
Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
I keep trying to explain to you, trying to explain
to you, do not cross the bridge.
Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
You've already gone too far.
Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
When you start trying to talk these regular years, these
bad things happen. So I don't know which wonderfuncker I
played at the beginning.
Speaker 14 (01:33:15):
I think it was this.
Speaker 6 (01:33:16):
One client asked me what it was like when or
when I was there when Twilight was being written, as
in like the actual like they're in the present, when
Edward Color two hundred years old was been.
Speaker 5 (01:33:32):
I was like, you know what all of that because
my client was upset because I said, game of thrown
like ship.
Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
So beause you're done.
Speaker 14 (01:33:58):
It's gotta be proprietary.
Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
And literally.
Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
To the pain the dog people fucking when they say
you want to get you.
Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Bring look in the bring yourself to see. Just then.
Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
The pain call the people bucking when they come you
say you want to go.
Speaker 19 (01:34:30):
Look in the mirror bring yourself to see just the
over mind, I said, and I watched that chid something
like live's sick. But I've got the pass like that
only mind remiss.
Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
I've been permitting.
Speaker 19 (01:34:45):
Meditating with the mind is actually rating and mcas not
homeboy lives.
Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
This word is too a gud toss the plans.
Speaker 20 (01:34:54):
I lost my mind, but as it myself, for I've
been tan motivate the cript for las.
Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
Tech un not the cover I talk up. This is
no accident. Maths not it.
Speaker 19 (01:35:06):
Consequence is not so I must repair let them things
go see the glaslope.
Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
We're both pain so bout log and danjo.
Speaker 17 (01:35:16):
It's all the same.
Speaker 10 (01:35:18):
Now who's the place.
Speaker 14 (01:35:31):
The pain?
Speaker 20 (01:35:34):
Say you can think of look in the mirror, bring
yourself and lift the don to see. Just left the
don the scene pass break the pain.
Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
These are the donkeyple.
Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Bucking with me. Say think you more, you think you.
Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Look at the mirror, bring yourself and left the doc
to see. Just let the dog scene.
Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Says the next defendable emotions come in terrible side pacts.
Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Nothing came the cravings.
Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
Man, I look at you. The three next so wonderful.
But if I start your nature busmas all to do.
I have to chase my full life. Rather you be
willing to be this dron meaning what you need to
a little bit of a sweat and sets when you
wouldn't just talk. I'll just trust, make your cream and
lick the crimson bluehood along your bed.
Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
The preaching in my head?
Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
But did it be better? But I just like on you,
but resistances you don't wear. I'm real with you.
Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
You thought of whipping your coming and.
Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
Your contemplingding and you never you preching then punishing your
flower frosting.
Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
You never see the control I have over the sensitive.
Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Decided little but let the more I see. So what's
like just to be wearing? Before I just start the
spare tim decide I've been what knowing?
Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
And then they got this consumers with the plain. These
women don't keep.
Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
On bucking when they come in saying you you you something.
Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
Going talking the mirror, Free yourself and that the dot
to see it. Just let the dot to see it.
Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Pries to take the plain.
Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
You go the donkey bob talking why content to saying,
don't tell you walter? Did you coting?
Speaker 16 (01:37:13):
Go and put it in it?
Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Talking in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Free yourself and let the don to see. Just let
the don see
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