M.A.R.I.A explains how women are WASPs (women are stupid people)😈

She should be ashamed of herself…talking about her clan in such an audacious way…the…audacity 😂💀😈

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
A twenty eight year old software developer from Atlanta, wakes
up alone in a hotel room one thousand, nine hundred
and seventy five miles from home. The room is just
completely trashed and he has no memory of the night before.
Scrambling for a phone that is no longer there, he
notices empty bottles in the nightstand, sheets fought off the bed,
and panic starts to set in. He swipes the clothes

(00:24):
on the floor to check for his wallets, his back,
even his expensive work watch, all gone.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
The more his eyes dart across.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
The room looking around, the more painful his headache becomes.
This wasn't a normal hangover. There's a metal taste in
his mouth and his stomach is starting to cramp. Markers
can hardly think straight and just wants to go home.
But at least my passport is still secure, he thinks,
But then he sees it. The door of the hotel
saved wide open and empty. Anxiety turns to dread. They

(00:52):
took everything, but just a few days ago, everything was fine,
So what happened? His memory was blank besides the faintest
of perfume and cigarette smoke. He closed his eyes and
could hear the echo of clicking high hills on a
marble floor, A woman's voice speaking rapid Spanish down the phone,
and then from that a word sounded through the pain
in his head. It was a name, Camilla. A week ago,

(01:18):
Marcus sat in his apartment, staring at his phone and
told some silence. He'd been messaging an American woman for
two weeks. It felt like real conversations, not.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Just small talk.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
She'd actually engaged with his stories. She asked about his
work and seemed genuinely interested in him. For the first
time in months, he felt like maybe he was getting somewhere,
like maybe he'd finally broken through that invisible wall that
seemed to exist between him and the opposite gender. After
a couple of beers, he asked a simple dinner invitation,
nothing pushy.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
She read this.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Message and then there was no reply, A typical thing
for him, typical. He just had that feeling again that
he couldn't shake. This woman was another in a sequence
of rejection. His heart grew colder and his perspective dimmer
and darker. Later that night, he found himself in a
familiar territory. He'd been searching medicine for months, partly because
he'd had good things from people he knew, but also

(02:06):
because of the content that had been piped into his
feet NonStop videos of these guys filming themselves on GoPros,
parting with beautiful women in exotic places where you could
just be with a beautiful, wholesome woman, drinking cheap beers
on an exotic beach, speaking some broken Spanish, and really
just enjoying life, and all that seemed to take was
a plane flight. Marcus understood that he was in a

(02:27):
vulnerable state, but he just couldn't stop himself. How could
you even resist the temptation of this. He'd started off
just watching simple dating content or discussions and how romance
in the Western world had changed. But after getting recommended
content showing how much different dating abroad was and the
seemingly infinite upside you get as a young American bachelor
with some cash, he grew more and more desperate, and

(02:48):
now he just needed one little perch. Maybe it was
that last chat he had with the women, or perhaps
the powerful influences telling him how Western women take everything
from men and give nothing back.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
He found his thoughts changing.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Earlier that very same day, he found himself snapping at
another bland girl, spinning coffee.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
In his arm, the same as all the rest, useless
now to get him.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
He didn't know what was happening to his mind, but
he felt profanity's echo around it in women's presence. Sinking
another drink, his finger hovered over the confirmed button for.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Its flights, and he clicked.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
In just a few hours, he Landshi Metagia. The heat
slaps him in the face, and he knows hees somewhere
completely different, and he wasn't the only one. They're about
eight to nine single men also with him from America
in QE near her, all likely going for the same reason.
But he did know that over a million people visit
this popular Colombian city every year to taurist hotspots. He'd
read about the world class museums, the vibrant nightlife, and

(03:43):
the stunning architecture. The weather was perfect all year round,
the food's exceptional, there's amazing coffee, and everything costs a
fraction of what you'd pay back home.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
But if we're being real, that was on the top
of his mind right now. Marcus had more romantic plans.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Romance tourism to cities like Menaging is a movement that
spans continents and crosses borders. It's an entire industry of
people foregoing relationships at home to take on something bolder
and more fruitful abroad. Some actively embraced terms like passport Bros,
pushed by influences with massive followings who've turned this lifestyle
into a business. The art passport pro Subredder has grown
to over eighty thousand members in just a few years,

(04:18):
creating an international network where countries are ranked on maps
and experiences shared for how great they are for men
like Marcus. While Columbia has dominated the headlines, a few
countries rank at the top of the best locations for
passport Bros, from Thailand to Vietnam, to the Philippines and.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Brazil and even Eastern Europe.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Some men actually go to this community and showcase their
success to get advice or actually provide some value to
other men looking to do the same thing. But not
everyone is lucky. And then there's the opportunists making a
commodity out of hundreds of people like Marcus and turning
romance tourism into an industry that serves them and not
the vulnerable men they purport to care about. What markers
didn't realize was that his arrival was predictable and hadn't

(04:57):
gone un noticed by those who'd lines the profit from
your vulnerable men.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
The digital pipeline that had delivered him here was.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Just one side of an equation he didn't yet understand,
but the course was set. One of the first things
he did when he gets to medicine was download Tinder,
and suddenly, like that, he was done. To get all
these matches, matches with women he could never get back
at home, and this is when he matched with a
beautiful looking woman named Camilla on Tinder and she suggested
meeting at Hotel Dan Carlton. She mentioned this had the

(05:24):
best view in El Poblado, the main place for ex
bats and medicine, adding you'll love it, and unbeknownst to
Marcus that one simple message would change everything. Camilla watched
Marcus's face light up when he saw her. He was
nervous and couldn't believe how attractive she was. But for Camilla,
this was just another tourist, another rooftop bar, and another performance.
She was just twenty four, but she'd been doing this

(05:45):
for at least two years now. She started nursing during
the day that part was always true when she told them,
But in the evening she worked a different kind of shift.
She wasn't necessarily a prostitute, at least not exactly. She
told herself that distinction mattered.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
She was more like a.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Talk Camilla put Marcus cities, told him how excited she
was to show him how city, and it wasn't entirely fake.
He's some kind, courteous, genuinely interested in what she had
to say, and after a few drinks, she could see
his confidence returning. In another life, maybe this could have
all been real, but tonight was different for Camilla. She
nevertheless those thoughts get to her for too long, as
she's been discussing a new technique with her friends the

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night before, something industrially efficient.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Her friend Isabella had been using this for months.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
She'd shown Commitlla the small vial of white powder, explaining
how just a tiny amount could render a man completely compliant.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
With that.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
You can kill ten people, but it's better than powderful
you rub it on their chest. Isabella explained. The substance
came from the bolide shallow tree drunken binge that grew
wild throughout Columbia. It produces beautiful white bel shaped flowers
that hang like lamps.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
In the worst.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
It's better known as dey Tura or the Angel's trump is,
but Camilla knew her by a street name, Devil's Breath.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Most call it scipolamine.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's tasteless, odorless, and you can hide it on a
business card and just blow it in someone's face, and
the results of this can be described as zombification. Within minutes,
victims enter a state of zombieie compliance. They'll hand over
their valuables winningly, follow instructions without question, even withdrawing their
money from ATMs with their captors standing right beside them.
Fifty milligrams of it can kill you, but deaths are

(07:14):
pretty rare. Victims usually just stay compliant longer, Some reports
still feeling the effects of the high fifteen days. When
victims do eventually wake up, sometimes twenty four hours later,
they remember absolutely nothing. It literally blocks the neurotransmitters in
the brain responsible for recording memory. The US State Department

(07:36):
reports unofficial estimates of fifty thousand scapolman incidences per year
in Columbia, more than one hundred and thirty every single day.
According to the National Police, a scapolumane attack occurs every
ten hours in Bogata, with police admitting the vast majority
of incidences are men poisoned by women from small street
gangs called micro cartels. Committed study markers across the table

(07:58):
as he talked about his work, his hopes for the
true but he just had no idea what was coming,
or that there was an entire industry preying on people
like him.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Was this coldly calculated?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
At this point, yes, she felt glimpses of something else, pity,
maybe even guilt, But once again, she knew how to
dole those doubts. After all, she hadn't planned for her
life to turn out this way, and Marcus had come
here looking for exactly this right, two different paths at
the same table, and she wasn't really caring.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
About what he was saying.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
It was just time to move, so she excused herself
to the bathroom, did the end of a cigarette into
the powder, then returned with a smile when I step
outside for some air. Fifteen minutes passed and she watched
the change happen exactly as Isabella had described. Marcus looked
up at her, confused for half a second, then with
that Glay's expression. She'd been told to expect let's go
somewhere quiet, and she said, he nodded like a child

(08:44):
and just followed her. Now by this point, Marcus clearly
found himself in an extremely dangerous position. As they got
into the cab, he was sucked in and you could
even say lord and buy.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
A powerful travel.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Industry built around dating abroad, but behind the soft lighting,
the palm trees and the smiling local women in influence
a video is a huge, growing business, one that turns
male loneliness into views, subscriptions, and paid coaching funnels. Romance
tourism has always been popular, but love is one of
the most easily corrupted emotions, one of the main things
you can manipulate men with, and it's manifested itself as

(09:15):
an industry of mixed and often dark intent. Women abroad,
like Camilla are depicted as respectful to men in a
way that those at home aren't.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
They're receptive for some just.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
To pick them as just easy to pick up. Some
have actually been accused of using the same women in
their videos or paying them to join as a part
of their marketing game. The same influencers who claim women
in other countries to respect men more or often the
same ones who are seen with multiple women on each arm.
They're picking up women in the streets, showing how easy
it is to hook up. Most of all, they just
make you look so effortless. If you have a Western passport,

(09:46):
you'll get the hottest women. You just stop them in
the street, chat to them, and that's all you need
to do, even just doing this in English, not speaking
their native language. Just be confident and I will all
fall into place, or and maybe pick up their course
for one thousand dollars a month, just to be sure
you get all of their tips.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
The dangers of this just can't be ignored.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Many warn followers to take a picture of a girl's
idea before bringing them home. Some joke about getting scoped,
drugged and rocked like it was just part of the
adventure for some, as part of the thrill. You think
people like Camella would be more aware of these stories
than markets, but the influencers tell these stories is if
there were some funny holiday events.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
There's not a doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Columbian women are the most beautiful women in the world,
but they're also the most dangerous.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
You never know when they might slip in your drink.
You never know.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
You might wake up without.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Your phone, your iPad, your credit cards have been seeing
five thousand dollars in cash, you go scope from what
happed two years ago.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
That's the coolest part. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Without my shit.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
The darkest true the some romance tourists like Marcus never
actually come home. People in Marxist position, following the advice
of men who apparently care about their love lives, have
suffered horrible endings while in their pursuits of respectful women.
Take the tragic story of Ponna Guivan, a twenty seven
year old logistics can So it's from California.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
He definitely returns to his after going on attendance.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
You're racist. Let's get that. Let's get that out the way.
You're racist. You're racist.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
Racist, you're racist. Let's get that out of the way.
You are racist. You should have assumed.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
I don't know why you jumped to that one. I
don't know why you disci issue that.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
I'm just saying you're racist, obviously, why not, ma'am. You
talk about a titlement, ma'am, ma'am entitlement.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Stop now, you cause.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
To be clear, he can say everything you bought about
the titlement of American white man, who would let us
be clear, let us be a funded man. There are
levels of the titlement now like that want to like,
you know what, I understand my place in life. I'm
just giving me a regular ass wife and all the day.
But there are all but and they can be fine

(12:10):
with it and die with it. But there's levels of
the titlement. That's like, I'll rule the world I.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Deserve to get and you are just a like literally
you are like you are a four? How dare you
even looking.

Speaker 7 (12:27):
Just because of how they look that I'm like, there's
levels the literal level to the titlement, especially when we
start talking.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
About continental levels of the titlement.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
Not continental I'm so tired.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Of am I wrong? I am so tired?

Speaker 7 (12:42):
So America's because the country. Everybody says we're a fully
darcianistic which is true. However, Comma, you know there are
tired continents.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
That have levels of narcissism that may I mean level
of that logically, Bakedo says, like people look down in
the street, sir, why are you proud of this? Like
there are corpses industries see generally in America.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
That's why I was laughing. Got that the boat called
that life insurance and Couracive doesn't. At the end of
the day, America is the fan of just bitches and
having babies on the street. Some i'm'a go pay for it? Sure,
but are they paying for it now?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Not?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Really, it's something that you can't afford. Not really. Is
it something that you're really tipping about. Not really, you're.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
Just trying to tripping about it because it's the process
that insurance are supposed.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
To pay for it. But can you really do.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
If you make it two hundred and fifty k year
and you worried about your dron bon Mediican. There's a
lot going on that you are not acknowledging, as in,
you are in the privilege of your position of privilege,
ma'am acts. So if you're talking about a twenty year
old old, it's telling your insurance that the shit that
does not exist.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
The neggaves typically.

Speaker 7 (13:53):
But an all that to say, I'm bad guy you
that he just he deserves everything. He got him a
they showed a college picture of him. Absolutely, sir, you
ain't your diploma? Shiit had millions of dollars, take it
from you, all of it Influencers, they're idiots, So I

(14:18):
expect them to be taking the batage of biys by
Columbia bits because the bitches are smart and liffluences are idiots,
all of 'em.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
That's so I.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
Expect you to tell the Columbia bitch to take them
for every dime that they got. And I say, go off,
queen slipping the drugs in there? I say, listen, you
enter their territory, motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
You just out here.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
D you out here taking free drinks from bitches? First
of all, what is wrong with you, sir? Taking drinks?
And they say they might slip some minute. Yeah, Columbia
isn't known for any type of narcotic.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
This bitch roll that shit and a cigarette at.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
Handed it to him and said, he said, sure, yo,
why are you taking cigarettes from.

Speaker 8 (15:07):
Comes out of the bathroom with a cigarette ready to
go again.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
If they don't understand the country, they said, you know
what country that? They said, I know what country that?
They said, Pablo knows what country that that is. But
they're like, We're gonna go to Columbia and get a
dumb broad Columby girl, there are so many. It's Columbia, yep, yep, okay,

(15:38):
you you by passed Mexico.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
You know, they bob passed Central America.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
They had all the submissiveness dies at the end of
Central America, like for Americans. Yeah, submissitess dies there because
a blow there they legally could kill you.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
And you just disappeared. And it is what it is
what And they could have gone, mind you, there are
many they could have gone. They could have gone, they
could have got it. They stopped at the first one
maybe not the co capital of the world. And then

(16:24):
I got drugged. Really I got I somehow ended up.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
I ended up being locked down by the government in Cuba.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Really, how did that happen? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
I was talking shit about Castro and all of a
sudden they just threw it all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Motherfuckers came out of no matter of fact. I just
was in jail. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 7 (16:57):
I said something wrong and some I just blinked and
I'm behind bars.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
That's shocking. Is Cuba that hostile?

Speaker 7 (17:07):
What?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
See?

Speaker 7 (17:08):
That's the that's the dumb conversation we're having now, Like
that's a lot of retarded that we're talking about right now,
Like I got roofing at Columbia and another new and
another thing. I may have contracted it. I may have
captured Ebola in in Africa. I may have gotten like well, like,

(17:30):
what are we talking about? Like swine? What what do
we the most obvious stuff? Got COVID from China? I
like what obvious? Other truths that we talk about from
the Wuhan lab.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
That can.

Speaker 8 (17:45):
We please hear about the mark because I'm here?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
I mean it can't because people can't see.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
This is a young Asian boy that's saying, I'm going
to Columbia and get me a wife who's gonna be submissive.
The Asian boy said this. The academic with the with
the nine honors say he gonna wrangle him a Colombian
girl whoa Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Listen, I'm gonna say this's the that is to.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
Be an American thing, because I don't think anyone from
the home land would say no. Let's say like, oh,
I'm a gonna calling me wife like baba. They're like, oh,
because they're beautiful. If you wanna die, I mean, but
she's a female. No, you're a female, she's a killer.

(18:42):
You don't want to good but her beautiful kids. Again,
if you're assuming, you're not going to die really, so
there's like a lot of like, there's a lot of
ims like but I'm gonna talk to her again, you're
assuming that you're You're like, you're assuming you're gonna get
to her.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
See, you have to get through like a lot of
things to even talk to her.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I'm make it there.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
But I have a passport.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
I gay.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
You're saying words like legal stuff. So you have a passport.
That doesn't mean you're coming back. You got a passport now?

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Right, Like as soon as you get over there, they're like,
can I have a passport back?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
What passport?

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Now?

Speaker 7 (19:15):
You're hair Now you're stuck in Colombia. The moment somebody
said moments, you're like, can I have ID?

Speaker 3 (19:22):
What ID?

Speaker 7 (19:23):
You're done? There's no other question because if you are,
you all of a sudden you're gonna realize that what
are you?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Who? What authority do you have here?

Speaker 7 (19:34):
You hope that you handled their passport in a pope
play stamp, but to give it back that is what
you do.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
You hope what they learned the hard way, So reap
motherfucker Day.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
In twenty twenty two, he taken a snapchat third day
of his dates a slim brown had woman in a
white jackets and next morning he didn't return to the
IBMB as friends raising a long It turned out that
his credit card was used multiple times in all the
late night tryings. Twelve hours later, his body was then
discovered behind a trush been five miles away from the bar.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
The family of a young man from Orange County is
struggling with their grief and at the same time trying
to find out how and why he was killed while
on vacation in Columbia.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
How and why? Why because of how he looked and
he's a mark? How nice? Poison a drug overdob bother
cinder block on his legs and thrown in the La
sharks piranhas dismemberment. How he died is irrelevance. Why he

(20:43):
died is because of stupidity, because he thought he would
go get him a Columbia wife looking like that.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
And won't come back.

Speaker 7 (20:54):
There's a lot of poor is it like mistakes were made,
bad decisions were just like listen again, you read what yourself.
He did trying to get the pussy. I'm sorry people
have died stupid. The reasons not really, but you know, well,
you know he had an education, so you know at
Harvard education. Will you talk him a lot about how

(21:14):
to give was you go right to Columbia and saying
give it to me.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
What happened? He got disappeared.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Then there was Tao Shong, a fifty year old minnesot
To comedian, who.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
It's hilarious the type of people that these are, and
I feel this this is cosmic karma.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
But only that he got or.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
With his family in December twenty twenty three, is saying
he needed two thousand dollars because he'd been kidnapped. The
family then send the money through PayPal immediately, but it
wasn't enough. The next morning, his body was found at
the bottom of a ravine near the rob Later districts
he'd been taught.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Laughing, why are you laughing that this bad was not
the bottom of a ravine.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
When he said the message, They said, no, this is
this thing.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
What he said was they said, first of all, they
got the right target, because I got two thousand dollars kidnack,
they said the buddy Immediately They're like, oh, we're gonna
kill my fuck yellow hoh, he got to die now.
He's like, yeah, I hit enough, because if this ain't't it,
nothing means he did.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
He said, if I had a bottom of red. They
did it seeking through up. This is their fault.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
They did it to themselves because they feel so tired
that they could get a Glombian.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
And they seved the hell from one coun It's not America.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I's tortured, stopped and then thrown two hundred and sixty THO.
I was right.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
See I was just saying the most extreme ship, but
I was right. Listen. I feel vindicated, right listen.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
This is vindication because you're like, that's a extream ship,
the way that would happen.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I love Listen. I'm for people.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Listennigger like he was saying some extreme shit. I ain't
no about no way that Oh absolutely.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Oh my god. List it.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Cause we were talking about the male epidemic of how
these motherbuckom are stupid. I'd get changes before a puzzy,
and apparently people from thirty country.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Toil that they are tired of the predy. Puzzy doesn't
understand how they get that.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
See, black people understand how they get agents, they get readily.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Don't understand experienced these people.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Oh, he was killed while on vacation in Colombia.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Then there was tals Shung, a fifty year old minister
to comedian who called his family in December twenty twenty
three saying he needed two thousand dollars because he'd been kidnapped.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
The family first, boy, he should have known, No, bro,
ain't nobody giving you a no two thousand dollars? How
about I still got listened? No two thousand dollars for kidnapping?
Sounds like he gone for real. That's just testing the
waters to see if they actually gonna do something. If
they said two thousand METI that's the worst they could
have done, because they could have been like that, ain't
how much you really want for this boy? How much

(24:06):
you really won't because to stop, let's stop playing around.
So if they actually negotiated for it, they would have
known if they were serious or not.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
But if you said two.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
Thousousand and but you know that's the people.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Many then send the money through PayPal immediately. But it
wasn't enough PayPal, That is true. The next morning, his
body was found at the bottom of a ravine near
the Robledo Districts. He'd been tied, tortured, stabbed, and then
thrown two hundred and sixty feet all.

Speaker 9 (24:39):
Here's the anstript of his credit card. They're like, oh,
you got money. This two thousand is just for Trump,
for the resident.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Is why people we absolutely like white.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Departments down a cliff. Other survivors described the same passon.
A twenty eight year old businessman, also a victim of
scopolamine and Columbia, told reporters quote, I match with a
goal and Tinder just another goal. I thought, it's just
another date. She took my iPad, my phone, my wallets,
my credit cards, my ID, everything but my laptop. And

(25:14):
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You see Camilla had actually tried only fans as an
escape route when she was younger, but this was way
more effective. She was so close to finishing her nursing degree,
but without tuition money, she'd have to drop out. Like
so many countries targeted by romance tourists, most of the
Columbian population is below the poverty line.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Nor Many weeks ago, she created her first dating profile.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
In its dang, I mean you've heard of that stuff,
mail order rods and stuff. So we's been going on
since tourists two means I was just saying I would
just call I would call it fucking abroad. But I mean, well,
I'm gonna.

Speaker 8 (26:17):
Have to presume with the party, and most of them
are not looking to fuck.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
They look at you, ooh the one relationship these hear
one step away. Wha yep, this is why they keep
getting killed and fell here like down here, tryna wind
and die.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Bitch you out here, tryna kill you. Ex sense, what
you need to do is fucking bitch and kill. It's
us killed the full.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
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Speaker 3 (26:47):
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Speaker 2 (26:48):
That was it?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
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Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, pipeline and network of women targeting gringos, not always Americans,
but any foreigner with hard currency who is naive enough
to really believe they'd found true love. So here's what's
really happening. While you're watching these glossy, perfect influencer videos
showing Columbia and other dangerous countries. In a similar way,

(27:23):
local networks are working and studying these men who deliver
these dreams.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
They want you to believe in an image so that
they can milk you.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
The system for exploiting men on the ground in places
like Columbia has evolved around the same time as the
male loneliness epidemic, the one that these influencers get paid from.
While online opportunities cultivated men like markers for months, local
networks had learned to position themselves at the end of
that pipeline, ready to extract their own value. In Columbia,
some women work alone, others with gangs. Journalists in Meloging

(27:52):
have even uncovered gang bosses like the so called Queen
of Scopolamine, a serial killer who killed between five to
six men, although according to her court testimony, there were
a considerable amount of others now. Of course, Columbian authorities
are aware of this problem, but they're overwhelmed. In a
city with more than twenty five thousand reported robberies annually,
only a fraction everly to arrests, and most of the time.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Nobody's talking to the police. They're completely corrupt. But that's
not the point. Why are these men coming here in
the first place. What is pushing them here?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Is dating that bad in the West now that we
need to find other poor countries where we can finally
feel validated and actually find true love. What this shows
is what's lacking in men today in the West. But
they feel so compelled to go to dangerous countries like
these to find love, or because the people they interact
with in their own countries seems to always reject them
or just be people they can't have any real connection with.

(28:44):
Because this isn't just happening in Medigan, but it's also
now starting to happen in many other cities around the world,
targeting these Western tourists, from Manila to Bangkok. So cracking
down too hard on the very image of warm hospitality
is a complicated business. Even Camilla, whos stuck in this
web just like Marcus, as she's had to grow up
in a country ravaged by drug cartels and obviously in

(29:05):
a third world bad situation. She realized she would make
a year's wage in a night if she performed the
fantasy people like Marcus had built before stepping off the plane.
And of course it's just business for these people, executing
a usual strategy, walking Marcus to numerous ATMs to get
money out for what she told him repeatedly was more drinks,
walking back to his hotel room, plastering him with more
drinks to keep him compliant as she systematically ransacked his room.

(29:28):
She then coerced him into opening his safe to access
his passports and rummaged through his belongings for anything with
any semblance of resale value, while Marcus spent most of
the time slurring and flopping around on the floor between
being sick. Then, after locking him away helplessly in a
wrecked room, she left to pay some of her bosses,
as you can't do many of these things without others
noticing and demanding their cuts. But the fact that this

(29:50):
is even an industry in the first place is really
an indictment to how bad dating must be on the West.
If people are going into obviously dangerous countries to do
this sort of thing, and it's so common that there's
no an entire criminal economy around this stuff, shows there
must be some issue at home if so many guys
are falling into this trap. The modern dating crisis and
the growing loneliness epidemic are quietly leading to more and

(30:11):
more of these cases. Faced with rejection, social isolation, and
a collapsing sense of purpose in the West, many managers
flinging to these countries where dating feels more traditional, connection,
more accessible, and finally gaining a sense of love spurred
on by influences, creating this echo.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Chamber and this illusion that it's just impossible.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
To find love in the West anymore, And in doing so,
this is creating a global issue that's only getting so
much worse. In Brazil, the US Concert and Reo recently
issued a warning about drugging dating scams targeting tourists criminals
to use foreign men slips the datives into their drinks,
then lose them and rob them in hotel rooms. We
also see this in Bangkok and Barley, the same devil
Breath style scams where victims are stumbling around like zombies

(30:53):
being completely controlled, that cards maxed out and sometimes even
overdose debats. Menaging is just the most visible example, with
eight Americans vanished at once in late twenty twenty three,
bringing the total to twenty nine deaths in recent years.
It's so bad that even Tinder now has to place
warnings on the app. On Facebook, we can see a
private scope Lamine Victims group that has more than five

(31:13):
thousand members sharing stories and lookouts. Thousands more warning about
this on the Passport Bros read itself. And while most survive,
living with this kind of experience would be difficult for anyone,
especially those most lonely and unloved and now staring at
the ceiling of his own flat rather than a hotel room.
Marcus is learning the hardest lesson of all. Sometimes when
you think you're the customer, you're actually the product just

(31:35):
being sold.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
This is a critical conversation around truly the future of humanity,
but we don't want to talk about this.

Speaker 10 (31:52):
This report is absolutely shocking. This is a crisis and
young men are struggling. So I sat down with two
leading voices on societal issues to discuss the rise of
millions of lonely addicted men, and the most important question
is how do we fix this? So let's start with
this graph shows that young women are out earning young men.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
It is true we have given women so many tools
to achieve, but now boys are being left behind.

Speaker 10 (32:16):
And the number of males aged sixteen to twenty four
we're not in educational employment has increased by staggering forty percent.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
And the data I've seen is that when the woman
in the relationship starts making more money, they've become twice
as likely to get.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
Divorced because traditionally women see partners who have more economic
or social status than they do, and emotional intelligence is
the new currency in dating. But these guys were raised
not to be emotionally intelligent, but to be a provider that.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
A lack of male involvement in his lives is a
big factor leading to this, and once they lose their
male or model, they've become much more likely engagement in
all activity well.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
And so we are just creating a lot of these
angry young single men who are saying, well, this is
rigged against me.

Speaker 10 (32:55):
We actually am asked every audience to write in, and
this guy, Jeffrey wrote in and said, my entire life,
I've never felt like I was good enough, like I
could never earn my place in society.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
It's devastating. But something that's controversial I'll push back on.
I think the secret weapon for men that they don't
leverage is to I just want to hear.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
Woman's despec to me honestly, what I would use.

Speaker 10 (33:17):
This has always blown my mind a little bit. Fifty
three percent of you that listened to this show regularly
haven't yet subscribed to this show, so could I'll.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Say, Oh, I know all these great single women. Do
you know any great single guys? And I just thought, oh, okay,
maybe that's always been happening. But when I actually dug
into the data, I saw that we are truly in
a dating crisis right now, and there is a huge
mating gap between the type of men that women are
looking for and the type of men that are available.
This is a critical conversation around truly the future of

(33:48):
humanity because marriage rates are down, that means birth rates
are down, and so this conversation is extremely important.

Speaker 10 (33:57):
And what sort of reference points due to upon because
you've got some sort of unique access to data, right right.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
So I work at HINGE for the last five years,
and so I have access to tons of data there
around how datas are dating now, how datas are dating differently,
what sets successful datas apart. And then I also have
conducted my own research for this conversation. So I sent
out a survey to thousands of my newsletter subscribers, and
people were very excited to talk about this, and I've

(34:22):
conducted a lot of new research that I'll be sharing
for the first time on this topic.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
So I make my living looking at data and trying
to come up with insights. I spent most of my
career looking at data to try and add shareholder value.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
And then I have the luxury now focusing on things
I'm really.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Interested in, and I just start stumbled upon data about
it reflects that the cohort that has ascended fast as
globally as women, and this is a wonderful thing and
a huge collective victory. And the group that has fallen
furthest fastest is men in Western markets. And the data
was just so overwhelming. And also I was close to

(34:59):
being one of these. I didn't have a lot of
economic or romantic prospects when I was a young man,
but there were programs in an environment where I could
be successful. And I worry that some of the temptations
of technology, the economic trends, had they been where they

(35:19):
are now, then I could have very easily ended up
a statistic.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
So I just sort of relate to these problems.

Speaker 10 (35:26):
I'm keen to understand from your perspectives what you think,
like the first domino that falls in a young man's
life or a young boy's life that causes the outcomes
we're talking about today, where is the first place to start?

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Soho the research I've looked at in Richard Reeves, from
your American instudent boys in medicine, good research air. The
point of failure if you reverse engineered issues too, is
when a boy loses a male role model, and that
is in the US we have the second most single
family parent homes behind Sweden. And what's interesting is that

(35:59):
in single Aaron Holmes, girls actually have similar outcomes, similar
rates of high school attendance, income, rates of self harm. Boys,
once they lose a male role model, become much more
likely be incarcerated, engage in criminal activity, harm themselves. It
ends up the while being physically stronger, boys are emotionally
and mentally much weaker. So the loss of a male

(36:21):
role model is I would argue kind of the first
point of failure that predicts that a kid, a boy,
is going to struggle, and that has impacts on family, court,
economic policy, and just channel in general psycheist in our
society where men need to step up.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
If we want better men, we need to be better men.
We need to step into that void.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
Another one that Richard Reeves talks about is that there's
not enough men in the education system. So I believe
when Tim Waltz was a teacher, one out of three
teachers in his school was a man, but now it's
like twenty four percent. And so where do kids spend
most of their time in school? And who's teaching them mostly.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
And not more?

Speaker 4 (37:01):
And it's and you think, well, women can be fantastic teachers,
and it's true, but after school programs, not as many coaches.
The typically are male, not as much compensation, so they
don't get rewarded for being coaches. And if you just
think about it logically, who does a teacher champion? A
teacher champion someone reminds some of themselves when they were
a kid. So and also just look at the there's

(37:22):
incredible bias, I would argue against males in school. A
boy is twice as likely to be suspended on a
behavior justin basis twice is likely to be suspended the
exact same infraction. Is a girl five times as likely
if it's a black boy and so. And once you're
suspended twice, it probably means you're not going to college.
In addition, to look at the behaviors we promote in school,

(37:43):
sit still, be a pleaser, be organized, raise your hand.
You basically just described a girl and so. And also,
quite frankly, a lot of the jobs that require tertiary.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Education, entertainment.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
There's more women now in law school and medical school,
and quite frankly, good for them.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
They're just better at that, they're better students. They deserve
to make more money. They deserve it.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
But the reality is it has huge ramifications. When we
no longer have wood, auto or metal shop, they've gone away.
So those used to be a past to do some
middle class jobs. They've been replaced by computer science. So
what are the past for the two thirds of males
that aren't going to end up with a traditional liberal
arts college degree.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Right, And just to add a few more steps, to that.
So we know that seventy percent of value toorient's in
the US are female, and women are much more likely
to be in the top ten percent of their class.
But then on the SAT men and women or young
men and women earn the same scores. So there's definitely
something happening in schools that is prioritizing the female experience
or that women are better at that. We definitely want

(38:42):
to celebrate the success of women. I think the changes
that have happened over the last fifty years are incredible,
and I feel like I'm a beneficiary of that, and
so is my daughter. If you look at all of
the books that my daughter was given when she was born,
they're about great women in history. You can be anything,
dream big, little one, and so I feel like we
have given women so many tools to achieve, and in

(39:03):
many ways those have been manifested. But now boys are
being left behind, and so this isn't a zero sum game.
I was nervous about coming on here because I thought
people would say she's a male apologist. She doesn't see
how much women are still struggling. I think everyone is struggling.
I think life is hard, But what's happening right now
is we need to have empathy for young men, and

(39:24):
we need to bring them up, because this isn't just
a problem about young men, and patriarchy doesn't just hurt women.
A lot of people think about the patriarchy as something
that prizes men and hurts women, but when there's a
very narrow definition of men, everyone is hurt by that.
And that's all the research that I've done is over
and overseeing women feel like they are not enough good

(39:46):
men to date, and men feel like they're being held
to a ridiculous standard of holding both sides of the
coin being feminine and masculine.

Speaker 10 (39:56):
It turns out, as she was speaking, I was looking
at the stats around fatherless homes, and it turns out
that there has been a significant increase in the amount
of young boys being raised without a father present. About
twenty five percent live without a biological, step or adoptive father,
according to the National Fatherhood Initiative, in the US has
the world's highest rated children living in a single parent
household and ninety two percent at the time that's with

(40:19):
the mother alone, And in nineteen sixty eight, only eleven
percent of children lived without lived with only their mother,
compared to twenty one percent in twenty twenty, So that's
doubled in the last fifty odd years, which is pretty staggering.
And then obviously the consequence of that has got described
is that individuals from father absent homes were three hundred

(40:41):
percent more likely to carry drugs, to carry guns, to
deal drugs and all of and there's this huge plethora
of mental health consequences if you don't have a father
in the home. I mean, what do we do about that?
And like, where are the fathers? Yeah, where are the
rom where are they going?

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Well, it's complicated. There's there's male abandonment, there's just no
getting around it. But also going back to family courts,
sometimes their courts in the financial you know, our economy
make it difficult for a man to stay involved in
the kids' lives. And also, you know, family courts getting
better at saying all right the kids. I mean, just

(41:18):
a personal anecdote, I have a friend who recently who
has gone through divorce two daughters very much wants to
be involved in their lives. There are thirteen fifteen year
old girls and quite frankly, dad's there on the weekends
and they got their own thing going on, and they
don't necessarily make doubt a priority, and Dad's not around
for what I call the garbage time. And that is

(41:39):
what I found with my boys, is the moments of
serendipity and connection happen randomly when you're taking them to school,
when you're out in the back, you know, jumping around
or playing whatever it is, these garbage moments, and when
you're not in the household for whatever reason, there's just
there isn't that much garbage time. And I think, slowly
but surely they lose sometimes connection with their kid. There's

(42:02):
also there's something weird going on. I'm curious. So Logan,
if you've got dated on this, but you have a
one year old daughter, right, you're going to be amazed
when my unfortunate boy had a Halloween party and the
boys are like cute, they're dopes, they're boys. There's some
fourteen year old girls who look like they could be
the junior senator from Pennsylvania. They're five foot ten, their

(42:25):
articulate Hello, mister Galloway, how are you at a lovely home?
The boys will like, I don't know, And biologically girls
mature faster. Their prefrontal cortex is eighteen months ahead of
a boy's an eighteen year old girl. A woman is
competing against a sixteen and a half year old when
she's competing against an eighteen year old. And they're even
finding that it's getting worse that women or girls are

(42:48):
starting to menstrate earlier and boys testicles are descending later.
So the gap immaturity, biological gap, they think might even
be growing. And they don't know if it's pesticides. But
when I meet my eighth grader's colleagues, there's a huge difference, Yeah,
between the boys and the girls.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
And Richard's one of Richard's suggestions is that we read
shirt boys, that we hold them a year back. The
boys start kindergarten at six, whereas girls started five.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
So the research in the UK shows that seventy percent
of girls are ready to start school at age five,
but many fewer boys are capable of starting at that
age in terms of readiness. And so if you were
to hold boys back, then they might be on more
equal playing field for those critical moments of four to five,
of thirteen to fourteen where the brains really develop at

(43:41):
a different stage.

Speaker 10 (43:43):
I want to talk about that sort of early education
experience and how it can be adapted. But also just
like if the environment of the classroom is right for boys.
As we're talking about the point about fathers and listeners
is what I found this graph which is also pretty shocking,
and it goes into what something you said, Scoot. It
basically shows that the absence of a father on a
boy causes depressive symptoms, but the absence of a father

(44:06):
on a young girl doesn't cause the same depressive symptoms,
which means that the absence of a father for a
boy drastically increases the chance of being depressed, or as
if for god, it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
There's a lot of geographs that look like that in
terms of women and young girls are just actually a
lot more resilient in childhood. So if you are in
foster care as a young woman, you have less negative
outcomes than young men. And so there's this theory in
parenting of is your a child an orchid or a dandelion,
And so the orchid really needs very particular situations to grow.

(44:38):
They need a certain amount of light, they need to
be watered in a particular way, and they'll thrive in
some situations and they will not thrive in others. Whereas
a dandelion can really survive in many situations, and so women,
young girls tend to be more dandelions in childhood. And
so that's why when you have a boy and a
girl both in negative situations, the boy is more negatively impacted.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
Boys are just weaker. There's a crazy stat I read
that two fifteen year old.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
It's a boy and a girl both sexually molested, and
to be clear, they're equally hainous crimes. But the boys
who was sexually molested is six to ten times more
likely to kill himself later in life.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
It ends up the boys are just less resilient.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
Do you think there's somehow more of a stigma the
like I wonder.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Why that's saying they can't talk about it. Yeah, uncomfortable
feel there's you now I have, there's a lack.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
I mean, I think it just until a few years ago,
the social incentives sort of never speak about it. I
was on Lewis House podcast and he just openly said
I was sexually abusing a child, and it was so
shocking for me.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Wow to hear this big, handsome guy.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I don't think he would have said a tenant for
years ago. I think people would have assumed that it
was his fault that made him less of a man.
So I think a lot of that has hopefully gotten better.
But we just have to acknowledge boys mentally much like
are weaker than.

Speaker 10 (46:03):
His house didn't admit that until a couple of years ago,
So he's lived with that his whole life. And it
wasn't until he was I think, having dysfunction of relationships
and a few other things had happened that he decided
he wanted to save publicly for the first time, which
again feeds into your point.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
We actually am asked him of audienced to write in.

Speaker 10 (46:20):
One of the people that wrote him was a teacher
in a primary splash preschool, and she said to me
she was an anonymous teacher in Germany, and she says,
every year it seems like more and more children. Always
boys have this new energy to destroy the classrooman dynamics.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
These boys almost always have two things in common.

Speaker 10 (46:39):
A lack of boundaries at home an unsupervised unlimited access
to all kinds of content on the internet e g.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Porn.

Speaker 10 (46:46):
Their perception of what is okay and what is right
becomes completely distorted. I've tried so many things, and every
year it's becoming an even bigger challenge young boys in school.
So one proposal is to delay education for boys and
put them in education later. Is the classroom itself a

(47:06):
problem like the sitting in school listening to someone speak
at you. Someone proposed to me in this podcast before
that boys need more practical play and the classroom isn't
designed for that.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
I wasn't sure if that was well.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
In single sex boys school, they end up with double
the amount of recess time, and that is they have
I equate boys to dogs. A happy dog is a
tired dog, and if it's not hired, if it doesn't
get to run, it's going to cause trouble.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
And I feel the same way about boys.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
So in these schools where they decide what's best for
the boys, there's usually more exercise and more free play
and more rough housing co ed schools. And you're also
saying I think with boys, I mean there's just we
don't by even acknowledging that men play a critical role
in boys lives a few years ago, that was seen

(47:56):
as sexist. What you mean, what you're saying, moms can't
do this? And I can just tell you there are
certain moments when my partner needs me to weigh in.
I don't know if it's the depth of my voice,
my physical size, the way they relate to me, the
fact that I'm not you need dad now, or that's
what I found, Especially with boys, they need almost like that.

(48:19):
That not physical intimidation, but it's almost like they begin
tuning out their mom over time. I mean, they're incredibly
close to the mother. They look to her for nurturing.
When they really have a problem, I find to go
to mom. But they will constantly test the boundaries constantly,
and I think a lot of a lot of single mothers,
quite frank with boys just can't keep a lid on

(48:41):
that kid.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
They can't control the kid.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
So and I think you're finding at schools when there's
no male kind of I don't know, involvement or that
that I don't know what I'll call physical presence. And
then you add on this DOPA machine that they get
used to squel using a DOPA bag one hundred times
a day as they need it, and then you take
the DOPA bag away, they're just more prone to emotional outbursts.

(49:08):
I'm curious if you've done any research around why that
is that emotional outbursts more common among boys than girls.

Speaker 6 (49:17):
I haven't done that research, but I am imagining that
there's moms out there that are raising boys on their
own and they might be like, yes, it is hard,
but what do I do?

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Right?

Speaker 6 (49:25):
And so for that boy who isn't taught by a
lot of guys in school and isn't in the boy Scouts,
which doesn't exist anymore, or it doesn't have big brother
big sisters, like what does that mom do?

Speaker 4 (49:37):
So? But that you talk about a boy Scouts in America,
there's there's Scouts for America, and it can be boys
and girls, right, but girl Scouts have their own single sex,
but boy Scouts aren't allowed to have their own single sex.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
So the question is are I you know? What do
you do?

Speaker 4 (49:51):
And I think that we need a societal zeitgeist that says, immediately,
if there's no longer a male involved, we have to
get other men involved and acknowledge that that's being sexist,
that you know that that's important that you get men involved.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
And I think so.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
I came from a single parent household, raised in a
single immigrant mother who lived and died a secretary light
of my life as soon as my dad was gone,
and then he had to move away from work.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
She got other men involved in my life, and I
had wonderful men involved in my life.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
I had a Stockberger neighbor down the hall came in
with his girlfriend and said, you want to go horseback riding?
You seeing me horseback riding? I don't know if men
would be comfortable doing that in today's age. So getting
men involved in their lives after school programs, boy scouts,
I had a lot of wonderful men.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
I used to go camping, you know, and there were
men everywhere involved in my life.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
And I worried that a lot of those institutions, and
also there's a reticence and a hesitance for men to
get involved in a boy's life that isn't theirs, for
fear they're going to be perceived as something's wrong with them.

Speaker 10 (50:56):
I was thinking that, So if we have less men
in the home raising the children, and then we go
to school, and the stat says that seventy two percent
of teachers in middle school are women as well, there's
no men at school either. It's no wonder that always
are struggling so severely at such a young early age
for so many reasons, because one would assume that they're
being socialized in the same way as girls. I'm seeing

(51:20):
I've got a mother at home, don't have a father.
I've got women at school, don't have male teachers. I mean,
that's a controversial thing to say. I'm sure it used
to be, but I think people are waking up a
little bit now.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
We need more male teachers. There's more.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
There's more female fighter pilots per capital, the male kindergarten teachers.
There's just there's an absence. There are some boys, that's some.
There are millions of boys in America whose first male
role model as a prison guard. There are just no
men in their lives. After school programs being canceled. No women,
very very few men k through twelve. Dad's not around.

(51:55):
There are there are communities, there are literally communities. You
read articles about it where it's like, where are the men.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Where are the.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Doesn't look like they're in work college.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
The reality is there just aren't for a lot of reasons,
a host of reasons. Male a lack of male involvement
in kids' lives is a big, big factor leading this
or other factors, or socioeconomic factors.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
There's biological factors.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
There's a lack of vocational training, there's outsourcing of many
of the jobs that made a man's path to middle
class viable. I mean, you want to talk about the UK,
A big problem is a lack of growth. There's just
not there's not a lot of income opportunities for a
young man who's not exceptional. And what we've seen in
the US is essentially, if you look at our economic

(52:45):
policies in college, it's never been better to be remarkable.
Like if you're in the top ten percent, if you're
a high school class, you're going to make more money
than the top ten percent did ten twenty thirty. If
you end up at Google, you're you're going to make
a kid at Google who's amazing computer science degree.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
You can make millions of dollars by the time the thirty.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
But I can proved every one of us mathematically, the
ninety nine percent of our children are not in the
top one percent, And our economic policies have basically said
that school and college is meant to identify a superclass
of one percenters that we're going to try and turn
into billionaires instead of figuring out the infrastructure of the
programs to ensure the bottom ninety have a shot of
being in the top ten. And one of the stats

(53:27):
is just around college acceptance. When I applied to UCA,
the acceptance rate with seventy six percent. Now it's nine percent.
I was unremarkable for whatever reason, prefrontal cortex, single mother,
whatever you want to call it. But back then they
had the mission and the charge to let in unremarkable kids.
And that's no longer the case because America's superpowers are

(53:49):
optimism and we all believe our kids in that top
one percent, and the reality is they're not. Or people think,
I like an economy where you can make a billion
dollars because that's going to be me one day. So
they have ignored the fact that we are crowding more
and more prosperity and opportunity into the remarkable. And for me,
it comes down to what is what do we want

(54:11):
in America In the UK, do we want a superclass
of billionaires or do we want a society in an
operating system that gives unremarkable people a shot of being
in the top ten percent. It's become winner take all
and we have purposely created a set of economic and
educational policies that crowd a massive amount of prosperity into

(54:31):
the top one percent.

Speaker 5 (54:32):
And we have opted for it because we believe we
have a shot at being in that top one percent.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
I love that because I think the winner takes all
applies to a lot of different things. So I bet
the top ten percent of Americans now are healthier than
they've ever been. All the rest of the country has
never been healthy.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
That's healthier in the world if you're in the top
ten percent.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
Or in marriages, the top marriages today are the best
marriages of all time. Yet we have declining marriage rates,
so we're nearing the lowest rate of marriage that we've
ever had American history. So most people or fewer people
are getting married. But if you're you know, two college
graduates who get married in your thirties, you might have
an even stronger bond than people in the past. But

(55:11):
that is a small group.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
At the top, marriages become a luxury on If you're
in the top quintal of income earning households, you're seventy
five percent get married. If you're in the bottom quintile,
only twenty five. If you're in the lower quintile of
income earning men, only one and four chance of getting married.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
And this has huge impact on our society because we
know that married people are healthier, they're wealthier, they live longer.
When couples are married, they actually have lower rates of
child poverty. And so this has huge implications for our
society if we're having fewer marriages, especially when you think
about having fewer babies.

Speaker 10 (55:48):
I am, I want to get into dating and marriage
and eleven all those things. One of the things that
really shocked me as I was preparing for this conversation
was this graph, because this isn't the narrative that we hear.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
Can you re see this one?

Speaker 10 (56:00):
This is the reverse gender GOP gender pay, GOP broth,
and it changed that young women and earning young men.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Yes, the narrative is not that's not a thing at all.
Want to get married. That's true, This is true. We're
not talking about facts.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I just.

Speaker 7 (56:24):
Women not want marriage, especially women are thirty five. They
actually want to be single. They want to be single
by themselves especially. Is stay very true. I don't want
to know why, because the brown is the worst. You're
talking to talk about the right not to talk about

(56:44):
the worst, the worst in the West, the brown, because
all of them, the matriarch is the brown. The matriarchy
is the brown, the bats the brown, all of that
when the Browns are.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
The unhealthiest people brow the death from the crowd is
the brown.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
The men, women.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
And baking on the brown. Again, the worst is the brown.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
That's why you don't bring up the brown in steps
because on the stats, the brown is always the worst.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
So it's always bad to bring.

Speaker 7 (57:21):
The brown any conversation, in any conversation that has to
do more.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
The brown is literally a disease. The brown diseases and roaches.

Speaker 10 (57:36):
That's not what I had in terms of like a
fellow social media, we've been trying to fight the gender
pickup yesterday, But to see that young men are now
falling behind both an education both in unemployment. Young men
face higher unemployment in twice the rate of women. Looking
at the early developmental stats, this graph was horrifying, Like, actually,

(58:00):
can't believe that was true, that young boys are struggling
so much an education.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
But then to see also that it's reflected in so.

Speaker 6 (58:06):
That graph shows that boys age sixteen to twenty four
are making ten percent less on full time employment than women,
and so it is true that we're seeing a reverse
income graph. But what we do need to talk about
is even when women make more in their twenties, that
changes around age thirty kids when they have kids. Right,
it's like this meteorite hits and there's this huge burden

(58:29):
place on women. And I think that's a big part
of the conversation that we'll talk about when we talk
about dating is women still feel like they have to have,
you know, do all the household chores and raise the kids.
But suddenly they have to earn a full time income too,
and so so many of the gender roles are changing.
And so yes, that graph is true. We have seen
since twenty twenty that there's a shift. But I don't

(58:50):
want to just say, oh, women are making more in perpetuity,
because as soon as there's kids involved, they pay the price.

Speaker 10 (58:56):
No, you said that women feel the need to then
also earn a career and all of those things.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Where did that come from.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
Well, there's this idea of hypergamies. So traditionally women seek
partners who have more economic or social status than they do,
and for most of human history this worked because men
had the resources, and so there was sort of this
arrangement where women could often marry someone who is more
educated or earned more. But over the last fifty years

(59:23):
that's really changed. And so what I'm seeing in my
work working one on one with women is that when
they say that there aren't enough good guys to go around,
that's actually true. So we now have this huge mating
gap where we have these high performing, high earning women
that have done the work and gone to therapy and
work out, and they're ready for their great partner, but

(59:43):
they're not able to find enough guys who are available.
And if this is a problem now with the women
I work with in their thirties, we are going to
be facing a much more severe crisis ten fifteen years
from now. So currently sixty percent of college enrollment is women,
but soon it's going to be for every two women
that graduate, it'll be one man. So that means half

(01:00:05):
of those women will not have a guy who graduated
from college. And so this is a crisis because these
women are saying, Okay, if you cannot be the provider,
then you need to be offering more. Emotional intelligence is
the new currency in dating. But these guys were raised
not to be emotionally intelligent, not to give emotional support,

(01:00:28):
but to be a provider. And so they've been chasing
this lion. I'm going to hunt for this lion of
being a provider. But suddenly they're told, you need to
hunt for a tiger, which is emotional intelligence. They don't
have the skills to do that. And so women have
raised the bar in terms of what they need from men,
while men are continuously falling behind.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Yeah, there's a lot there, there's some nuance around the
pay thing. So the data I've seen is that women
under the age of thirty in urban areas are now
making more money. But to your point, the moment they
have kids where corporate America has really failed. It hasn't
figured out a way to maintain a woman's professional trajectory
once she decides to deploy.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
Or over his ne kids.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
And there's some data saying, okay, two thirds of divorce
can be reverse engineered to a man starting to make
less money if if when the woman in the relationship
starts making more money, they become twice as likely to
get divorced, three times as likely to use eed drugs
because the guy loses a sense of purpose and self esteem.
What gets lost in that data is the reality is

(01:01:26):
if a woman is stepping up and stepping into the
economic void and being more economically, being a greater economic contributor,
then logically it would make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
I said.

Speaker 10 (01:01:43):
I mean, but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I was saying like you saying like deploy over and
like yeah, and you evacuate the intruder. I'm like, oh yeah,
it's fund true right to think. That's inside you. It's
called the truth. So you evacuate the trutor.

Speaker 11 (01:01:58):
Or parasite because you know, because you know, you know,
you know, the benevolent, the tutors deciety that you allow and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Decorated.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Yeah, men need to step up logistically, And I think
what a lot of women are saying is like, Okay,
I'm not getting anything.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
I'm not You're no longer a provider.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
And by the way, you haven't filled that void, you
haven't made up the delta, so there's some nuanceing around it.
What also, I think is important to say is that
if women are better students and showing that this wine
and the skills to go to college and an information
economy and making more money, then okay, good on them.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Just as for whatever reason men made more money.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Maybe it wasn't fair, but you know, it's not a
crime against humanity if women have the skills to make
more money. What happens, though, is the second order effects
that you're talking about, and that is we don't like
to talk about this. Seventy five percent of women say
that economic viability is hugely important in a mad only
twenty five percent of men.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
For men, it's not a criteria for women, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
And Chris Williamson of the Modern Wisdom podcast, he has
his great statu or it calls out the high heels effect,
and that is fifty percent of women say they won't
date a man shorter than the I'm curious what you think,
but I think it's more like eighty percent. I think
it's embarrassing than you say it, because just instinctively, women
feel like they'll be vulnerable during gestation and they want
someone they think physically could protect them.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
I just think it's hardwired.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
And from a male.

Speaker 8 (01:03:37):
Perspective, no, they don't care. However, men do care about
how much money it want takes. They are unlikely to
date a one two equally earns.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
Or out earns it, and that is a statistic.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
So they asked that question wrong. Just ain't making that
much money. Are very rarely around women to make it
more home, very very if you're in a certain lifestyle.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
Or you're in a certain city, for example, in Baltimore,
you can guarantee if you're a man and you actually
have a job, you make more at ninety nine point
nine percent of bitches in this entire city. Why because
they living off the states, and especially if they got kids.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Now, if they're single, it's a question. Now if they
got kids and living in Baltimore and more than two kids,
absolutely it's nigga's making more money than the bitch.

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
Cause this bitch has no job, has no will to
go to work because she's being subsidized by the state.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Could be the roaches that she is and let her
in her roof, say die as roaches.

Speaker 7 (01:04:50):
Okay, well I'm in Baltimore, So roaches and rats come
to truchar So it's like Virginia you have lightning bugs, alright,
you got grasshoppers, locusts, occasional straight cat. In Baltimore you
got bettan off roaches and rats. It smells like rays

(01:05:12):
when I walk in Braidon pets That's why it's when
I walk outside in Baltimore when in Rome. So that
I'm just saying, and is it you need to Baltimore
now it's grabbing niggas or homeless?

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
What's the type of the niggas? So like I'm saying, when.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
It comes to the racial of niggas, who actually got
money versus business who ain't got none.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
If we got a job and you on the block,
who are the rich nigga on the block? Cause all
these bigeons are broken? Why because they don't need to work.
Why would you need to work when you've got kids?

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
That's an insane question to me, But that's happens to
be a question the bitches ask once they push something out,
They ragging and ask pussy and say, I have three kids,
now I shouldn't work that again.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Sound is insane to anybody.

Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
A married couple who said that would be heather kids
taken immediately away from them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
But a bitch with three said I feel I shouldn't
have to work again.

Speaker 7 (01:06:16):
An insane statement for an adult who's taking care of
living beings to say. Because a dog catcher would take
the dog away from a motherfucker who said I got
a dog and I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Feel all need to feed his motherfucker. That'll be the claque.

Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
But men saying I got multiple kids, I feel I
don't need to work sounds insane, but it is condoned
by the state and the president.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
So I'm like, go off Cleenland and to me, if
they don't know it, women metaphorically are getting taller every year,
and women made horizontally enough and men horizontally and down,
and when the pool of horizontal and up cheap shrinking,
they just have. So this notion a ton of great women,

(01:07:00):
where are the men, or there's no men. There's a
lot of men, just not men they want to date.
And then you speedball it with the guys who are
in the top ten percent can engage in portia polygamy.
They can get a date every goddamn night, which does
not encourage long term or very good behavior. So the
guys they all want are not incentive to or into

(01:07:20):
long term relationships. And the bottom half of men are literally.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Shuts of long term. But there's all times.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
You could just be diseased and shut out of the
mating market.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
And we always kind of, we always kind of And
this goes to your Valley Wig kind of portray men
as the predators and idiots and they just got their
act together. There's something strange going on in that is
online dating. When a woman can go out with the guy,
a high status male, and I'll put forward this thesis
and I want you to respond to it. She can
have sex with him, which gives her the impression that's

(01:08:05):
her weight class for a relationship, but he's not interested
in a relationship, and then she basically decides the bottom
ninety are no longer in her weight class. And you
can't tell a woman to lower expectations. But the reality is,
and what the data I've seen on dating apps is
that all of the women want the same few guys

(01:08:26):
and they shut out the rest.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:08:28):
Okay, so there's a few things I'll respond to there.
So one, going back to the income graph, I want
to just call out that, yes, right now, in a
few urban markets, women are making more than men. So
women in DC and New York under thirty are making
more than men on average. But in most situations men
are still making more than women. But we're talking about
a projection going back to the dating research, So yes,

(01:08:52):
it's exactly as you described what we have right now
is there's fewer and fewer men that our hypergamus mates
for women. So there's a much smaller pool of guys
than what you have is you have a bunch of
women competing for the same men, and then a bunch
of guys get ignored. But what I also see is
that those top guys are having a hard time deciding.

(01:09:13):
So I feel like in my coaching practice as a
dating coach, I'm working with a lot of women who say,
what do I do? I've changed my profile the way
you said I should. I took your class, but I
still feel like there's just not enough great guys. And
then I work with these CEO men who are having
such a hard time choosing, And so I think we
really have this exacerbated problem where so many women are

(01:09:35):
competing for the same men, and then a bunch of
guys are getting.

Speaker 7 (01:09:37):
That's a factor that a lot of people are just
not taking into content are certainly important.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Hey, more women on.

Speaker 7 (01:09:46):
The earth, and I ad none of these men aren't
worth a damn because they're online dating looking for pus A.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
I don't know why these homes are down here, tryna
look for a fucking her husband on a dating site,
which is just specific didn't looking for wasn't great in
the change their profile and not accepting the hersh reality
that I'm gonna have to tell them that apparently dating
coach will not so bitches is all a Every single

(01:10:24):
one of them was going to this woman. Every bitch
is up if we're going to this woman, Yes, bitch,
you're talking about you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Who are.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
All y'all listening to this woman?

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Is up?

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Is this woman? It's facially challenge. She's given us all
this information about dating. She's not the most tractable man,
but it's probably got a man, meaning that she's gonna
better laugh of y'all meaning that y'all are sugged, but
no one is here to tell you the truth. But
you know what, God's sitting here. Dad. You don't finish up?

Speaker 7 (01:10:59):
Yeah, yeah, And I'll end it right there or take
a pause there, just say that God has a message
for all you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Hold you up.