The Journey of the Lost pt. 5 Cancer in the UK😈

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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Take the pain.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
There's gonna be people fucking when they come to say,
don't think you.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Go to think something? Go it Trinity day, don't.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Did them gave a frae yourselfing left to say? Just
let them pass, bake the pain. It's got the dost.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
People fucking when they come to say, you think.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
You bore you thinking something.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Going briny day?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Don't did them gave or free yourselfing left day? Just
let them of a man and I watched the last lines. Listen,
but I've got the class.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
That's not only mind remiss.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I've been froming meditating with the mind that you're rating
in the can the.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Lost home lives. This one is due a guy's the pleasant.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's not I lost my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I hit myself for I've really charge motivate the crypt
for the life inside chill off. I'm never the cobos.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
I tucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
This is no accident math, it's not a consequent.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's not so I must repay that that my fin
fl see the Glaslow.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
We're both pre playing so but God has a gain
though it's all the same. Now, who's the place.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Think going by? Talking the mirror, free yourself and let
the dark to see.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Just let the darkness pass and break the pain. These
over donkey bocking when they come in and say you think.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
You more, you think you don't think? Go by, don't
the mirror. Free yourself and let the DNA see. Just
let the dog say freaking your name the said, free
to say days mixed, extend the emotions come in terrible,
say something less again the bravees man, I'll look at
you there. Take three next, so wonderful if I start

(02:33):
your rest persons, hold to your woman, I have to
chase my left.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
Rather you be willing to.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Be resilition this troll you meaning what you need to
wild a little bit of blood sweatings when you will
just so tk, I'll just trust. Make your creamy LiTi
crimson blueood along your bed there, cracket.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
In my head?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
What did you died that?

Speaker 7 (02:50):
I just got calling your.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Resistances to you know where on rails some tipping the
dom thing come to dinging and then you have the direction.
Then pushing your cloud front you get to see the
control the head of.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
The sensitive decided for the sac little but little the.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Mossy so what it just to be worthy before just
don't to start to tell the side. That's important to
them that the good is consumers get the pain these
over give people up. When they got to the saying
you cat, you think you something, go pain it. Don't
in the glor free yourself and let the dot to see.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Just let the dot to.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
See it fries and break the pain the.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
You.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
When they come in to say you think you know,
you think you something, go and pain it. Don't let
the mare bring yourself and let the DNA see. Just
let the domo scene. I don't, don't.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Don't you bought to go to war. You barn war
with me. You bought to go to war.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Now he saying, like you board war with me Fursday.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
You're taking life.

Speaker 8 (04:43):
You born go walk, but the hell is on your back.
You boar walr with me the way you Wilsa Burgs.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
In the part of Masson, I was holding.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
A woman at Pcassa Walsh and the times.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
To lead a man.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
But send in the end and till the moment I'm
saying it don't bring in the business and sounder sucking world.
But a couple of Wales and waters assault people are.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Talking to bring about plan to.

Speaker 8 (05:09):
Boxist time bos and so other co stop you want
to go not here saying the life you're born boor
with me cousting out saying you.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Know you.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
What the hell.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Bust you want a bird right? And the guy creasy
that they burn in the front of the bodies in the.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Sake of raising her did the mistake and the furnac
the fuck is the one the more mistake.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
And in trouble and.

Speaker 9 (05:42):
Hot, I never start going for when the store is
striking down, at least telling lords the line because they've been.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Their soles the machine and where the lordly one is
a big broken and bleeding your mother from.

Speaker 8 (05:54):
Saying you god bore with me, say you boys call
a ball, but the hell is on your bine, comeball,
go with me?

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Nobody you want some fine swish it by.

Speaker 10 (06:11):
To bid so I talk to buy my six b SA.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
They played by my downfall and wish the bad was.

Speaker 10 (06:26):
Stuffs bow out dies by.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Bout out of line die.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
No thing can a buy ball?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
I not say good bye ball boy my bag.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Don't thanks by.

Speaker 8 (07:08):
Come but outside you'll buy you ball, but name I'll
take your night, second night.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
No b.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
What help is your.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
He's gonna take your note.

Speaker 11 (07:46):
With the ride no vessel to to buy my SI pay,
pray for my downfall.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Where's the thing?

Speaker 1 (08:01):
What's not mercy? What?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Because I'm not what the wampas.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Name he can of God?

Speaker 4 (08:32):
What's your warm pacher?

Speaker 6 (08:36):
You give up?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
I can give a buck last sip sixty ten, so
lash do give up.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I can give a buck.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Man, I'm not selling up my phone.

Speaker 9 (08:44):
Anny, pittest, don't give up, and I can give a
buck last six sixty ten you so last, you give
a part.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I can give up there.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I'm not selling up my phone.

Speaker 9 (08:54):
Anny, your pensil only PSI with the frona pitch, I
can I fting one.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Report that the fun when the lank go lover about
in the telepresent the fun and the present the one
and then once letting the money.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Tell you nigs b come at different?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
God, that ain't you writ the.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
B take the walk that talking picky right, get up, bis,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
What the fuck do?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Take forth and the whook the boat brock back.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I's a psy no.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Pycause I'm not not once the.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Walk patilkay can't try.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
To talk God? What you walk?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Paint?

Speaker 4 (09:36):
You give about?

Speaker 9 (09:37):
I can give a buck last success in tenny, So
last you give a buck, I can give a fun last.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
I'm not telling my foe to day pitches. You give
a buck, I can give a buck last, subsist the.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Ten bisol that you give a buck.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I can give a buck last.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I'm not selling my fa let even pitchap can't talk.

Speaker 10 (09:57):
With the bard.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Oh song god do ask on both starts.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Get talk to the bard of the first so as
no thing.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Get talk to the bar.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Also one to grab a both time and walk to
the part for the first song you as no thing.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Spy.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
On a fun of fun.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I'm gonna do some funny.

Speaker 12 (10:38):
This is not amni that wy you think you US
the US a four dollar fuck you? I SI you
think about us there US a more dollar fuck you.
I'm didnt numa the US a four dollar fuck you.
I'm a say, did you wait a fucking think about that?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Thinking about that US a more dollar fuck you?

Speaker 5 (11:09):
My fine.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
You?

Speaker 8 (11:19):
My god?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, alright, oh my god, all right, you don't give
a buck.

Speaker 10 (11:38):
I can give up my last.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Success they take so that you don't give about. I
can give a brock maas because I'm not selling my son.
Now you bet test you give about. I can give
a pluck last success they take you souls.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
You give a crock, I can give a crop mat.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
I'm not selling my son here.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
You betcha.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 13 (12:31):
And it's it's really really horrible, Tommy. Final thing we
do so I don't know if you know. On my
GV news show, I had Greatest Britain Union Jackass where

(12:55):
no then, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This
is Outspoken. It so number two hundred and eighty eight
and breaking today. Tommy Robinson, in his only news interview,
responds to all of the headlines of the day. I'm
incredibly excited because, as you can see, this is our
brand new studio. We're going to be face to face

(13:17):
with some of your favorite guests over the next few months,
and no one is under more demand to come on
this show than mister Tommy Robinson. Of course, it comes
as the UK is on the brink with fourteen migrant
hotel protests planned from right now and across the weekend

(13:40):
as Palestine action the prescribed terrorist group really put a
massive challenge on police resources.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
So we're going to get into it all.

Speaker 13 (13:50):
Plus why he decided to sit down with Dan Wooton
Outspoken rather than Piers Morgan uncensored as Tommy claims the
famous former Good Morning Britain host wants to see him
locked up in jail again. It's going to be a
fascinating conversation. Also coming up on the show today, why

(14:11):
have Reform UK become the woke party? Tommy hits out
at Nigel Farage and we'll give him the first opportunity
to respond directly to shocking comments made by Tommy while
in prison by everyone from Camilla tomin A to Jess Phillips.
Then at the end of the show, as ever, we'll

(14:34):
reveal Today's Worst Britain in the world. This week, Tommy
will also offer his picks. You can get voting by
the way in the community tab on YouTube. We've already
had tens of thousands and a reminder of the nominees.
On Monday it was our Union Jackass Neurinda Corp. On
Tuesday Bush for Shake, on Thursday Event Cooper and on

(14:57):
Sorry on Wednesday event Cooper and on Thursday Piers. So
get voting now. I'll bring some of your best comments
and the results at the end of the show. Then,
by the way, we're not finished for the week. Another
huge interview over on subset for the Royal uncanceled after
show with Andrew Lowney. He is the author of this
major new bombshell book on Prince Andrew which is rocking

(15:20):
the Royal family. It's called end titled I'll be there
with according to Taz, getting all of his insight. You
can join us at www dot Outspoken dot live. But
now Tommy Robinson standing by in the brand new Outspoken studio.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Let's go.

Speaker 13 (15:38):
Tommy Robinson. Look the difference with Outspoken. As you know,
we are a news show and there is a lot
of news to be made today because you have been
center Robert for the past seven days.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Oh it's been a scary week. Yeah. Yeah, that's been
the worst week in my life. And I've had some
bad weeks. The most scary weekend my life, maybe not
the worst, most scary, and we will talk a lot
about that in detail. I see you do it. That's right,
you do it. My books tr books dot co dot
UK brought you one of each biographies, only that one's

(16:11):
left on Amazon. These all banned, so Amazon removed. Amazon
removed in the manifest so you can buy Mindcamp Hitler's
book in twenty languages on Amazon. But my second or
biography is banned. It's insane in it. I'm on my
third or biography it's mad. But that one was up
twenty fifteen. This one's up to twenty twenty one. The
next one, Political Prisoner's coming by Christmas. Hopefully the quran

(16:32):
Is have more than Katie Price, so yeah, hopefully, yeah, hopefully. Anyway,
so I'll give you them, but they're tr books dot
UK and I brought you as well, dan utk. I
love it enough. You know I'm on a weight loss.
I know I'm a big weight loss. Good luck. Well
these are before next month, That's all I'm wearing now,
and you get these at nationware dot co dot uk. Drifting, Yes,

(16:55):
I'm drifting, don't care shamelessly.

Speaker 13 (16:58):
Right, Tommy, let me start by talking about why you
were here instead of being on Piers Morgan uncensored.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, he's very angry about that.

Speaker 13 (17:09):
He's said when you announced this interview that you had
bottled it.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I had said on the show earlier this week.

Speaker 13 (17:17):
And by the way, I have no personal issue with
peers at all, but I had said on the show
earlier this week there's a very dark side to.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
What he's trying to do. He wants you to go
and uncensored.

Speaker 13 (17:29):
Repeat something from silence, which he is then going to
have you in contempt of court and then send you
back behind bus. He's been very honest about it, and
that's why I usually i'd say, yeah, go right ahead,
have a debate with Islam about with him.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
But that's not what he's trying to do. It's not uncensored,
he says, it's called uncensored. He had me blocked for
the last two years, since our last showdown, what was
it three years ago, He's had me blocked totally, and
at that time. It's only now he's gone on his
own YouTube channel, I believe. But he did contact me.
They did reach out and said would you come on
and I have a discuss. I need to have a
discussion with him at some point. It's just that Dan,

(18:04):
when I was in jail, you spoke up for me.
There's so many presenters, commentators that spoke up for me
that actually allow a discussion. So even if you disagree
with someone, we probably agree on every single thing. Yeah,
but we can sit and talk about it. Peers don't talk.
He just shouts over. When I went on last time,
it was embarrassing. I was embarrassed. When I watch it back,
I'm embarrassed for him, and it hasn't aged well for him,

(18:26):
and I think he probably sees the change in atmosphere
as well of the entire nation he got schooled by.
He got I only catching up last couple of days
as I'm looking through it, sort of Tommy phobia. I
missed him. I was in jail all night. I was
in jail, so I was looking. Piers literally had his
pants pulled down by every American commentator on this issue,

(18:47):
and then he talks about and he's still trying to say, yeah,
you lied. It's like, mate, one hundred and sixty seven
million people watch that documentary. I don't need to comment
on it. And we also have to.

Speaker 13 (18:57):
Realize that there is no justice system in this country.
There is a judiciary. There is a judiciary that works
on behalf of the deep state, and the problem is, yes,
Peers might be opening his eyes to certain issues, for example.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
The Pakistani Muslim rape gang.

Speaker 13 (19:13):
What he doesn't realize though, is that in this country
there is a whole network behind the scenes that works
to silence people like you, and the fact that you're
in contempt of court in my view, doesn't mean that
what was see and silence was alike.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
No, the public, as I said in the court of
public opinion, just read under his comments on his own
social media, read every comment, every comment telling him we
see the evidence. We saw it was you lie, p
His It wasn't just for Peers lied. Peers should have
boy now come out after watching that documentary and seeing
what he dones that young fifteen year old child, Bailey.

(19:48):
He should have come out and apologize. He can have
his venom against me. He can dislike me, he can
despise me. What every problem he has with me, he
can have that. He should have accepted when he's done
Dan wrong because he's done something very very His reporting
was wrong, his encouragement in this inssitment of hate against
a child was just wrong. And he hasn't held his
hand up once. He should have reached out to that child.

(20:08):
That's what he should have done by now, but he hasn't.
He's actually just dug carried on digging his own home.
It's mate, Everyone's watched it. It doesn't really matter what
you say, Piers. Everyone's watched it. And also for someone
who has a show called down since and as I say,
I have no.

Speaker 13 (20:20):
Personal issue with Peers, he should be very concerned about
the fact that there is a citizen journalist in this
country that is banned from speaking about his journalism because
of the contempt of court ruling. By the way, and
I haven't spoken about this before, I am currently subjected
to a gagging order from the High Court, which also

(20:42):
means that I would be in jail for contempt of court.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I'm currently at the moment having.

Speaker 13 (20:47):
To weigh up is there a way to get the
truth of this story out via America?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
So this is not a one off.

Speaker 13 (20:53):
This is something now that the UK state under Slippery
Starmer is going to start using to shut down dissidents.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
And Peers should be so concerned about that, even if
he disagrees with silence right Heer should be so concerned
that Piers is part of that Pier's is part of
that machinery. Pier's is part of the establishment machinery always
has been potentially not look I said when the Greemers
gandal went on. At the height of it, Piers Morgan
was the editor of the Daily Mirror. Are we supposed
to believe we know that Andrew Norfolk tells us he

(21:21):
knew it was going on. We know that politicians knew.
We know that the government knew, We know the police knew,
we know everyone knew. We meant to believe that the
lead a head of the Daily Mirror, had no idea
and was not aware that these gangs were raping their
way for our country. He knew, he made a decision
not to comment in it. He was weak and he
continues to be weak, And even when I went on
with him in whatever year it was, when I went

(21:43):
on and we were discussing after the Manchester terrorist attacks.
But Piers keeps trying to make it personal about me
and I'd rather talk about the issues. It's like when
he keeps I keep watching him on these shows talking
about like trying to take some moral high ground because
I've got a conviction for mortgage forward. It's like, mate,
my brother in law lied on a self certification mortgage.

(22:04):
Find me the man and I'll find you the crime.
Piers Morgan made fake fake images of our armed forces
with Iraqi torture pictures and endangered armed forces. He wants
to talk about morals. He hacked dead kids' phones, which
he denies. He denies me, but he's admitted it in
multipoint of views with other people and talking to them,
which will come out in the court case. So hacking

(22:25):
dead kids phones. I think the public can make their
own mind up on who takes the moral seat here.
The reality is at the height of what should have
been his journalism. He was a coward and he continues
to be. But at the same time, when I've come
out and he has contact in me for the interview,
there's lots of things he said which are total lies
about me. I know they are, so I would like
to have a discussion with him about it, but on

(22:47):
my terms, not on his terms. It's like, mate, I'll
do talk shows with people who have I feel are
the future of the media. I don't think Peers is
the future of media. I think Piers is a Dyningsaur
and doesn't realize he's dying. I think, like, mate, your
old school, there's a new guard here, there's a new
media here. You're not going to be part of it.

Speaker 13 (23:06):
My what my issue is is that he's setting up
the interview on these very very narrow terms, saying he
is only really going to question you about silent the.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Only want to question me about saying I'm not allowed
to talk about yeah, yeah, because he want you in prison. No.

Speaker 13 (23:21):
Look, it did kick off though yesterday. I've got to
go through this back and forth.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I laughed all day last day. Thank God for in
a Moscow. I was just laughing. Even now I'm laughing
about I'm just but we've got that post.

Speaker 13 (23:32):
Actually, he responded, saying, laugh all you like bottle job,
but the jokes on you. Your supporters can't believe. You're
too scared to be interviewed by me. Your response, I'm
scared of peers more than peers.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Last time I went on his show. Just read the comments.
Go and pick up any of the news articles. It
was the most it was the most watched episode of
Good Morning Britain there's ever been. Yeah, to go and
read the comments. Just read the comments, peers, read the
comments under your own post that you posted there. Just
read the comments. Right. I embarrassed you one hundred and
sixty seven million views. I exposed you to the world, and.

Speaker 13 (24:10):
You said to him yesterday the truth is worth going
to prison for no regrets. He responded by that by saying,
you literally went to prison for lying and breaching a
court order not to repeat your lies. And I suspect
the reason you're bottling my show is because you know
if you repeat the lies again when I challenge you,
you'll be back.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
So we can see his intention. See I didn't even
read that. We can see his intention. But the reality
is my documentary was not my opinion. I didn't. When
he says I lied, I wasn't in court for anything.
I said. There were witnesses and there were school records.
It's nothing I've said. Yeah, so let's not pretend I've
sat there and said things and I'm in court for
lying because it's not my opinion. It's a piece of

(24:54):
journalism which the state has censored. They censored, they gagged
the school teachers, they paid them to under say five pounds.
The documentary showed all this. See when he's still trying
to argue, it's like anyone who watched the film, there's
no gray area. It's there. Yeah, I didn't lie. Everyone
knows I didn't lie, and it don't you fit? And

(25:14):
when I say it was worth going to prison for,
I don't have any regrets. You know why I don't
have any regrets because you know that poor child that
had his life ruined. Bailey. He now walks the streets
and people shake his hand. He now walks his hometown
and all the people that turned on him and everyone
he couldn't walk down the street. People wanted to kill him.
So it was worth all of those months in solitary.
It was worth it. It was worth it for Bailey's

(25:35):
a lovely kid from a difficult brick upbringing, A really
good kid, a really good love. He lived with me.
I don't know if you know that. So when this
happened at the school, this happened he was fifteen, I
went up there and met his mum, his two little sisters.
They had nowhere to live, they were hiding. I said, right,
come back with me. I brought them all back to Looton.
The mum, the two sisters and Bailey lived with me
at my house for six months. At the house, I

(25:58):
had to watch the decay of the family, the issues
they were going through, all based on lies, The entire
family broken, all based on life, not just lies but
shit journalism by wankers like Piers Morgan, who because it
was a story, just like he jumped on Black Lives Matter,
just like that he jumped on the vaccine, just like
he jumped on everything. He jumped and tried to ride

(26:18):
this wave of virtue whilst destroying his lives and family's
lives without any evidence. So what we know is on
one hundred percent factual. There was no racist attack at
the school. There was no criminal charges. Bailey was cleared.
There was a reason Bailey done it. We know all
that from the school records and the police records. That's
not what Morgan portrayed to the public. He demanded his words,

(26:40):
had to.

Speaker 13 (26:40):
Pay him one hundred thousand pounds in damages when he
sued you over the lies. Then you repeated your lies
in your film, which breach court orders not to and
went to jail for contempt. No wonder you don't want
me to interview you hashtag.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Bottlers one hundred and sixty seven million people. It doesn't
matter what you say, it doesn't matter. Your credibility is shot,
absolutely shot, Pierce.

Speaker 13 (27:05):
He says, I have the fastest growing YouTube news show
in the world. I don't need bottle job Tommy, but
he needs to stop hiding from me and do a
proper interview, not these endless cozy chats with deluded sick
of fans who suck.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Up to him. What's he's scared of? Well, what are
you scared of? I'm scared of nothing. I'm scared of
my mum, right, not you, not you, Peers, right, not you.
So I will when the time's right for me. And no,
I'll be honest, just speaking totally honestly here, which Peers

(27:38):
is full aware of because I did contact him and
let know this year, I've come out of jail seven
months soldge confinement. I come out in a not a
great place again, so you would have seen and made
a video where so I'm taking two weeks back see year. Yes,
I'm taking that time because I'm not right in myself. No,
I'm not right. So it's like Peers, if you just
sat in solge confinement and you'd been through what I've

(27:58):
been through, and you're trying to deal with all the
problems that come with it, it's natural. I know what
I'm going through as natural because I look at all
the side effects of solid confinement and what it does,
So I know what I was going through as natural.
But I need to take some time to regain my
own health and make sure I feel fit and make
sure I feel myself again, which I currently still don't. Really. No,
I mean so, and you'll know. And I'm not going

(28:19):
to underprepare because I'm gonna make Peers Morgan look like
the schoolboy that he is. Yeah, I'm going to annihilate
the debate of your life. When I sit down with him,
He's gonna look like a fool that he is, like
he did last time. To be honest, and he shouted
me down last time, but that's not going to wash
any more. I want, I want I debate anyone I
always have. I've never heard from any debate. I want
to sit down and have a civilized adult discussion without

(28:42):
someone just screaming buzzwords like racist or his lamophobe and
all this bullshit. It's embarrassing. Do you know what Peers
done to me when I went on his show last
time was the screaming of his lamophobe as lamophobe because
I was holding up the Koran and trying to explain
the reason we're having the problems. But the public's for
shifted now they understand I was right on many of
this these issues. But you see that attitude that Peers
had against me, trying to silence discussion, trying to enforce

(29:05):
blasphemy laws on the public that can't have a discussion
around Islam. That same attitude that Peers pushed on me
is the reason that grooming gangs were allowed to rake
their way through this country because of people like Peers.
Because when you tried to talk about it, you racist,
You're extremist. I didn't see him saying that's to Jordan Peterson.
Since I've been out of you, I've watch Jordan Peterson
put him in his place. I've watched Dad Sad putting

(29:26):
in his place. I've watched everyone put Peers in his place.
Murried respects other people who respects and he can't get
his head around it. And Peers, my background is not perfect, yeah,
which you keep going on about. I'm a normal working
class kid from Luton Town. Made my mistakes, but I
told the truth Piers. You didn't. Yeah, I stood on truth,

(29:49):
whether it meant jail prison. We had a motto during
the whole English Defense League which was death, prison or glory.
We will not submit. You submitted, Peers. You submitted to
the corporate, You submitted to your bosses, you submitted to
you submitted to woke culture. You submitted. Yeah, we didn't,
and you hate us for that. But in America they

(30:09):
view us as not submitting and telling the truth. And
that's what you can't get your head around because you're
part of that classes system who just looks down your
nose upon us because we're working class. That's your problem is.

Speaker 13 (30:19):
And what he doesn't realize either is the Overton window
in the UK shifting dramatically too, and we will get
to that. But it is interesting you speak about your
mental health. I didn't want to sit down with you
actually straight after prison. I obviously seen you.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Liam's I've done one and I'll.

Speaker 13 (30:36):
Just and it was very emotional. But Liam was the
right person. You know Liam Tu he's one of your
best friends. But I think it was important for you
actually to get some strength back because it was intense.
I mean I saw you in there in December and
actually at that point you were okay, but I saw
how intense that experience must be. Look, I want to
talk about Elon Musk because this all came up again

(30:58):
yesterday given you as discovering these tweets for the first time,
and it was quite extraordinary. I mean, he said, Pears's
brain hasn't received its software update. Yet you responded saying,
America thinks you're a joke.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Can you just talk about exactly The funny thing is
like Peers Morgan views me, hates me, football, huligod, thug Vogan,
criminal in the world. Imaginally the fact that everyone that
he's looked up to in respect is just putting him
in his place, just saying sharp he is like Tommy phobia.
I absolutely just I spent all day yesterday just giggling

(31:32):
and laughing and then giggling laughing and picturing him kicking
his cat across the room or saying it's that Peers man.
What is the situation with Elon Musk? Because I want
to get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 13 (31:43):
Something definitely changed after he entered the Trump administration because
he had been so vocal about you, as you saw
early in January. He's stayed away from this area since.
But is it true that he is funding some of
your court cases?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
So I think so if you look at X and
Elon Musk, what they've said from the start with regards
to free speech is that they will defend people who
are in problem for exercise and their free speech on
that social media platform. Now my video that we'd had
one hundred and sixty seven million views was on X
and I went to prison for eighteen months for exercising
my free speech on X. So I know I was

(32:23):
in jail while all of this was going on. So
I know that Elon paid the legal fees for my
attempts to get me out of soldier confinement because I
felt that my mental health was well, it was deteriorating.
That's not my view. That was independent experts that come
in and said, listen, he's now got complex postal match
stress disorder and he's going to continue to deteriorate the

(32:46):
longer he's left in soldier confinement. So he took care
of that, and I know that he looked at the
that we had to send again as long as blind support.
We had to send to lawyers the terrorism charge I face,
which I think Americans were just gobsmack that I faced
terrorism charge being stopped with no suspicion of a crime
at a border, and then be en forced to give

(33:07):
a six hour interview with no with no rights to
remain silent about my legal and awful activities, and then
be enforced as a journalist to hand over my phone
and give them every bit of information that's on it
so they can download it, including every source of information,
every person I've worked with, everything, which they don't have
a right to do as a journalist. So I think
they were shocked for that. So they agreed to so

(33:28):
at that time, because it's a free speech issue, they
agreed to take on the legal And so he's doing
this Firerix. Yeah, I've never spoke to that, right, Yeah,
I've never spoke to him, Musk. So would you like
to I'd love to shake the man's hand. I'm very grateful,
do you know the moment?

Speaker 6 (33:41):
And do you know what?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I took a massive risk released in that film. I
took a massive risk because I thought I could get
killed in jail. If I'm honest, I got the injunction
at three years prior. I knew what the film showed.
I knew the evidence I had. I knew that it
showed a far bigger story than Tommy Robinson's story. As
you've just said, now you face this gag in order.
Do you know Laura Luma, she can't talk about this publicly.

(34:04):
Do you know that? I don't know if I can
name who took her to court, but there's lots of
these Islamic organizations that have a lot of money behind them.
They just gag everyone. Yeah, so she faced lose and everything.
They gagged her. Look what they've done, Steve Annam through
the courts, Alex Jones, a billion pounds, the orders more message,
sm it and look what's just happened to the pen
Now anyone who has challenged Katie Hopkins. They took her house,

(34:27):
they ruined her life. They all simultaneous on the same days,
organized Lawrence Fox, Lawrence FX Robinson, it's everyone. Yeah, so
we know what happened. But this so this story was
far bigger than me. And this story proved the corruption
and weaponization of the judiciary and how it's used as
a weapon and the lengths that the state will go
to to control the narrative. And that narrative for me,

(34:47):
was about this story. Yeah, but that's anti narrative, transgenderism,
even when it was BLM, COVID vaccines. You get in
their way. They're going to crush her and they're going
to secon an example. Yeah, and whether it be prison,
whether it be bankruptcy. So they've got one scared. So
I knew the film showed that, But if I'm honest,
I'd live my life from the start of my activism
in two thousand and nine when I entered into the

(35:09):
English Defense League and talking about Islam, I knew that
if you put one foot in, you're never going to
bring about change. If you worry about consequence, you're not
going to bring about change. So I never worried about consequence.
So I just went right forced in bed and I've
done that, and that's been my Well I'm doing it
and we'll soon what happens, and I'll worry about when
I'm in jow or I'll worry about when I'm dead.
So I just carried on. But then because of the

(35:29):
ef fact, I had a solitary confinement in twenty eighteen
where I went into Jaio one person come out another.
I had a devastating impact on my life with alcohol,
with my marriage, everything, So all that went on. Yeah,
that went on. Is it when you start thinking about
the impact on your family? Yeah, on my family, on everyone.

(35:52):
Do you still regret the end of your marriage? Yeah?
Do you think there is a way back at the lads,
we think they've been in the dog out short, which
I have done. Then, but I was a bad husband.
So it's my unfault.

Speaker 13 (36:15):
And Israel Evant speaks even this week about the fact
that he worries for your family because he worries about
the fact that at some point they might be having
to deal with life without you.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, so when I come to releasing the film, obviously, look,
I come out, I come out of court given the injunction,
and I didn't do what I should have done, and
I should have walked out of court. I should have
told Justice Nicklan, you're a fat forward, and I should
have played the film. That's what I should have done. Now,
if you look at can't the way life works? If
I would have done, how do you think that would
have changed things? No, because because for three years I

(36:53):
left the UK after my divorce and I didn't play
the film, but it hit me up. It just come
see nearly hit me up and it was only asked them.
Everything would have just happened a lot. So I don't
think it would have happened the way it's happened. So
in hindsight, it's the best thing that could have happened
was those that three year because it wouldn't have gone
the way it went. It woldn't go one hundred and
sixty se million views, wouldn't played it to one hundred
thousand people in Fog Square.

Speaker 13 (37:15):
It worked, And also we wouldn't have had that week
in January, the start of January, which changed everything.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
So you know when that happened, I was in jail. No,
but I released the film. But I was scared. That's
the truth of it. I was scared. I was scared
because of the impact on me, my mental health. But
I was scared because of the impact on my kids.
And I felt like I was letting them down by
making the decision to go to jail. But then I
sat with my kids sounding I spoke to them by

(37:41):
it just said I need to do it. I need
to do it. Did they understand. Yeah, they get older
now and it's a beneficial place to be now because
they get to see where we are, They get to
see the support lover get shown. They get to understand.
Your wife doesn't No, she does. I've said I was
a bad husband. So it's not it's it's my wife

(38:03):
stood by me for everything. Oh yeah, I mean, so
it's not that she doesn't understand. Obviously, her life's been
turned upside down, threats, moved, moved house eight times, all
these different things. But I think that at that time, yeah,
I said, what so my daughter. When my daughter was
at school, we're BLM hit off. My daughter had a

(38:25):
real hard time. Lots of her friends were black as well,
and most of my friends were black grown up, but
there was lots of but they all really isolated and
turned on her. Those same kids now, because I've rang
the other down FaceTime, she's and they were all like, yes,
we're all coming, Yes they're all supporting.

Speaker 13 (38:43):
But the point that you're making, and I think it
is something that is so important because I mean, what
we faced in twenty twenty for speaking up against the narrative,
which was in terms of COVID, in terms of vaccines,
but critically even in the United Kingdom in terms of
Black Lives Matter was extreme. People forget because the Overton

(39:04):
window has shifted so much in the fire now and
now it's shifted.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Now it shifted. You see so many people finding courage,
and now I need to follow my I said it, yes, sir,
I need to swallow a bit of people because I
get a bit ber and I look at people now
screaming about these issues and just think you weren't talking
about this issue. It's now quite cool to talk about it.
It's now okay to be angry about migration, It's now
great to be angry about is Lam. It's okay to

(39:28):
talk about these things. It wasn't ten years ago, it
wasn't five years ago. It was difficult. This one tears
me up a bit too.

Speaker 13 (39:35):
I have to be honest, because yes, you do want
people to come on board, of course you do. What
I think frustrates me is when I see people who
pretend that they were always there, when they don't own
up to the fact that actually, a few years ago
you were trying to cancel me.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
That's the point where you weren't just silent, but you
were the ones parrotting racist far right. He's dangerous.

Speaker 13 (40:01):
Yes, but this is a really difficult issue to deal
with though, and I want to speak to you about
it in regards to GV News and Talk TV, because
these are obviously two mainstream media platforms that I certainly,
in the case of gb News, helped to create because
I thought it was very important that the overton window

(40:21):
in this country's mainstream media is shifted. I think you
could argue that was achieved. It's extraordinary to me though.
Four years on, I'm sitting here and they will interview
Bonnie Blue, they will interview hard left Islamic extremists on
a daily basis, anti white racist. I was coming to that,

(40:44):
like Urinda Core and Bush Rashaik on a regular basis.
But they will not interview you. You remain canceled, and
lots of people say, well, Dan on the whole. It's
a bit like the Reform UK discussion, which we'll have later,
you know, and come on like on the whole. These
channels are good things. I just don't know if I

(41:05):
believe that anymore when we still live in a world.
I mean, I look very closely at the coverage.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Of you on gb News and Talk TV.

Speaker 13 (41:12):
The moment The Sun released that footage of you being
arrested at Luton Airport, it was leading their news bulletins
twenty four hours earlier, when you had joined Advanced UK
Ben Habib's party, a huge moment in British politics.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Radio silence.

Speaker 13 (41:30):
Yeah, So how do you feel about the fact that, yes,
the Overton window is changing, but these bands in the
mainstream media, I mean the Sun, where I was executive
editor right, And I know the Sun readers better than
virtually any person in this country. I love the Sun readers,
but I read the Sun today. They still describe you
as a far right thug in their coverage.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
No one cares what they say anymore though. That's their problem.
Julie Hartley Brewer talk to TV. I'll see her talk
down about me. She used to contact me. All of
these people. In fact, I'm not going to name them. Yeah,
but that's fine. I could pull up my DMS now.
I could pull up my DMS now from gb News.

(42:14):
Some of the people on there who since twenty seventeen
have been messing me about how they've been inspired and
they've done this and they've actually gone down that path
because of this, And then I see them sitting there
saying negative things. I just think that's not true. Like
so for me, it's like some people feel the need
to kick me to be able to talk about this issue,

(42:36):
and Joe, I don't mind. And that's where I need
to swallow my bitter pill, because I do mind.

Speaker 13 (42:42):
So for me, I think one of the things that
I hate most is if I and no one will
ever find an example of me doing this.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Because I never have. It's like, oh god, we're about to.

Speaker 13 (42:54):
Talk about Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins, so we have
to do that qualifying sentence beforehand, which I don't agree
with most of one. They say, but no, no, no, no,
I'm not okay with that anyone. It's weak, it's gutlers.
You don't have to do it. And by the way,
people like me prove that there is life after the
mainstream media do.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Not throttle, which is good to see. I love this.
I love seeing people who have they have tried to
cancel DAPA laughs. Yes, I love what they've done a
lot with the revolt. Did you imagine how broken he
wasn't because I know what it's and you know what
it's like.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
You.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I know it's like to be canceled, censored, and have
your voice taken and hit rock bott There's nothing worse
nearly killed Greg Wallace just two weeks ago. That's what
I mean. And and so I know it's like when
you see someone punch back. I see I see that part,
and I watch him. I think, fucking love it, mate
selling our arenas. I look at Katie Hopkins selling our
arenas loved You've got your new show You're Flying. I

(43:51):
mean it's great, I look it, but.

Speaker 13 (43:53):
The threats remain, and so yes, we're in a much
better place than we were five years ago, right when
Katie Hopkins actually had to leave the country. Threats do remain, though.
I don't know if you've seen just in the past week,
but the off communists, as I described them, they now
want to start controlling in YouTube.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
So what they want to doday, well, there's that, but
it's even more chilling than that.

Speaker 13 (44:14):
What they want to do is say, we want to
force YouTube into prioritizing content from public service badcasts.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
What does that mean?

Speaker 13 (44:24):
The British bashing corporation, WOKEI TV, sly News, Channel four News.
So they actually, now it's so chilling, they actually want
to come in and fuck with the algorithm effectively, so
that this interview, for example, would be pushed down the algorithm.
But what people in the United Kingdom would receive would
be a negative report, for example, from the BBC about

(44:45):
your arrests.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Google my name and it's every negative thing. But you
see what you're saying there. I've got rested last week
the night obviously we got on to that when I
got arrested I was detained under free to I was
arrested and questioned under three tweets. One of the tweets
was one of the tweets was a Daily Mail article.
There's a Mail article that said about school in East
London where English is not the first language for any

(45:10):
of the pupils in the school. It was a Daily
Mail article. I shared it. They arrested me for that article.
So my ssten said, hold on a minute. In interview,
she said, it's a Daily Mail arcle. Why aren't you
arresting them if you've got a problem of it, And
she said, oh, they're protected. So basically there's new law
means that government recognized media are exempt from this law

(45:34):
of prosecution for mistakes anything like this year. So if
they run a story that's they're exempt, but we can
be arrested because they don't counselors and journalists.

Speaker 13 (45:44):
And by the way, I've worked with these people, These
people on the whole are shills.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Who just want to take the paycheck. And I look
at what's been happening up.

Speaker 13 (45:53):
And done with this country over the past three months,
and I am actually inspired, and I remember I'm someone
who's come through the mainstream media world was executive editor
of The Sun. Do you know who inspires me journalistically today?
It is the young people on the street. It's great
inside the migrant hotels, he speaks freely, Jack Hadders, Alexander,

(46:15):
they are there. I mean then there's a whole load
more that was, you know, amazing, amazing people. Now to me,
they are more when it comes to journalistic credibility than
someone who sits in a Westminster briefing and parrots what
the government's see.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Do you know if we didn't have citizen journalism, do
you know the whole Epping situation where they bust in
Anti well, we know the busting Antiva because they lied
about None of the media would have told you that.
Do you know if we didn't have citizen journalism, we
didn't have X Then when the riots went on after Southport,
the Muslims are attacking people in every town the city
and akbarred in their hundreds were based with backs and swords.

(46:52):
None of the public would have known that. So Elon
Musk's role is incredibly important because the British public now
have a platform for discussion, but not just that, a
platform for education, a platform for real life, for the
reality of the situation. But I get real I get
real happy looking at the new media as well. That's
what I think. On my first was it the first
demonstration in London. I gave a platform to promote and
I'll probably do it on the next one. We give

(47:14):
press passes and the Daily Mail contacted on at the
July thirty seven one Daily Mail, so we had a
way of contacting us for press passes and they contacted.
I shall applied saying for a fuck off, see you later.
You ain't getting the press pass The TikTokers are getting
press passes, the YouTubers are getting press passes. The citizen
journalists who are going to come and even if they're
against us, but they're going to live stream and have discussions,

(47:36):
not cutting Fox popularly for gb doing great stuff, lotus
eaters doing great stuff. To say Lewis Bracklaw, Oh my two,
he's the original.

Speaker 13 (47:46):
And then he's got his Independent Media Festival tomorrow actually,
which I'm been very excited about. He's bringing a whole
load of us together for the first time in central London.
Things are changing on the protest Tommy. We've got a
big night ahead, a big weekend ahead. Fourteen hotel migrant
protests planned that clashes with this Palestine Action.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Event on Saturday.

Speaker 13 (48:13):
So this is where Palestine Action, which is now officially
prescribed as a terrorist group, wants to flood the demonstration
so that police are so overwhelmed that they couldn't arrest
all of them. Police are saying that they could arrest
up to five hundred or at least there's prison places
for up to five hundred. Taught, Palestine Action might try
and get three thousand demonstrators.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Britain is on the brink, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (48:35):
But then if you look at the mainstream media, which
I have been this week, people like the fake newsagents
Lewis Goodall, BBC Newsnight are saying all that's changed is
the language, actually the language of the far right. Nothing
has actually changed up and down this country. Do you
think things have fundamentally changed and that Brits are finally

(48:56):
waking up to the threat that we face.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
It's changed, It's never going to change. People are awake,
People were awake and they realize the danger of the
country faces. They realized that the future for their children,
the safety of their children, is a jeopardy. They realize
that they there's no hiding from me. It used to
be confined to towns like loun so when we used
to speak about it, not everyone saw it. It's not
confined towns like Looon because they're flooded hotels in every area.
Look what's happening in Bournemouth. Look what was happening across

(49:20):
the UK. So they can't hide anymore. Thanks to citizen journalism,
thanks to social media, they can't hide it. The thing
I would say is that you see all these protests
and I nearly made this mistake with epin where I
said I was going, Yes, I think that organizations need
to stay away. Probably even political parties need to stay away.
They need to leave them as grassroots, local community.

Speaker 13 (49:41):
Truly local, because that's what was so incredible about it pink.
And I'm sure you also saw the scenes outside the
Brittannia Hotel and Canary Wharf, these amazing mums right dressed
in pink doing the conga and it's so effective Tommy,
because it's like, can these people be branded?

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Men turned up there with banaclavs on. Don't do that,
take your balotgraves. Do not do it, because you're going
to discredit the hard work those local people were putting
in to be taken seriously, and half the time some
of the people covering their faces are probably government agencies
are coming in in order to discredit like they bustle
at Santifa. Isn't it like they bust Antifa in If
you look at the Stockport after stoport instant if you

(50:17):
look at the riots in Sunderland when they burn down
the police station, it's all people, six seven of them,
all head to toe in black, can't see any of
their skin. Who went and set fire to a police station?
Who are they? No one's ever arrested, they're never charged.
If you look at the special Google Special Demonstration Squad,
the government have squads that infiltrate legitimate protest movements in
order to entice violence, Michael having on January sixth. In

(50:38):
order to do that, then the media act as a
weapon to discredit the protesters. It's exactly what they tried
to do it Epping but they failed miserably because the
citizen journalist. So you're convinced it was the right call
for you not It was definitely the right call for
me to stay away from Eppin because if I'd have gone,
it would have made it about me, and it's not
about me. It's about fourty year old scholgirl that got
sexual assaulted by the migrants. If I'd have gotten it,
would have give the ammunition and by the media to

(50:59):
just continue attack them.

Speaker 13 (51:01):
Do you think there's shows and you found maturity in
the way that you approach your public role, because let's
be honest, in the past, you would have gone.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, I would have gone, and I said I was
going because I act quite a lot of time. If
people realize I acted out of impulse. And I watched
the video of some girls saying and there was a
young girl and her mother saying Tommy, can you police come?
And they wanted you. I didn't want to let it down,
and I thought, if I can come and bring three
thousand and bring back thousands of people. But at the
same time as well, what people need to know if
you're organizing these protests, the reason when the riots went on,

(51:32):
you have to liaise with the police and you should
just tell them, the reason being if you don't, you're
give them the opportunity to remember Sin George's Day, the
demonstration in London that happened where there was clashes, that's
because there wasn't the aison and agreement with the police
to where protesters were going to be, where they were
going to march, where they're going to congregate. So then
the police sharp a roadblock where they get their riots
shields down, and then you've got protesters walking down that

(51:52):
road and they're blocking the road. But that's because there's
no agreement. They can't do that when you have an agreement.
So I've learned. Remember I've held eighty national demonstrations. I
know how to negotiate with the police over issues. I
know how to how to make sure they're peaceful events
now and how to try and change the atmosphere of
the event, because there's a lot of anger in our
country in a minute, and it's justified. Anger, it's justified.

(52:13):
But you do not want to ruddle a ship, which
is what we saw after stop Port and the reason
why you don't want ruddle the ship. And people say, yeah,
but we have a right to be angry, and they're
not listening. I get it. I was one of the
people twenty years ago. I was one of the people
who put on a bad clava and charge through the
streets a looton. Yeah, because we were angry with the
takeover of our town, with the rape of our daughters,
with the prostitution, with the terrorism, and we weren't being

(52:35):
listened to. But at the same time each won these events.
British men who are stepping out of line and getting
angry justifind anger sometimes yeah, and they step over the line.
They're ending up locked in jail. I'm speaking to their families.
They're being targeted by all the Muslims being bad. So
I don't want to see young men make mistakes. And
when most riots were going on, it's young kids. And
I remember saying at the time, lads, where's the men?

(52:55):
Get their masks off them? Get their masks off them.
Do you know what they fear? They won't fear. They
want you to do those little riots and they can
come down and shut it down. They'll fear when you
win the hearts and minds of the entire country. And
trust me, the entire countries fed up with immigration, the
entire countries fed up with kings arma. So to win
the hearts and minds them. They will fear you when
you are coordinated and you are peaceful, and you and

(53:17):
you showed that you can control that.

Speaker 13 (53:19):
Cris seeing that fear and I'm loving it because they
do not know how to deal with it. No, it's
is last year it was so easy to be able
to say far right dougs, racists, lock up, looty connolly,
lock up way.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
The best thing is that was all meant to scare us.
That was meant to scare you. It meant scare you
in silence like my prison sentence of soldist confinements probably
meant to stop me fucking wake up, it's not going
to work. And our event on Entrafoul Square A hundred,
which we had over one hundred thousand people there. The
next one probably nearly two hundred thousand people, which was
a show of defiance from the British public after they

(53:55):
used the judiciary to scare everyone. I'm thinking it would
stop the protests. And at that time, do you know,
when I was away, I didn't think I had it
in me to organize another protests. I was worried, I
was scared and who I was going to jail. But
I felt it was massively important for the public to
know that they can still protest, because people then what
they wanted you to do is think you can't talk
on social media at all, you'll end up in jail

(54:17):
and you can't protest because they treat their fingers of riot.
So October twenty six, what you done? Which again, do
you know when I was arrested? I was obviously the
event was on twenty sick. I got detained on the
twenty fifth at Felix. Though. When I'm in the police station,
I'm sitting in my cell in the morning and pictures
are coming under the cell and they're printing pictures out
of our demonstration. The police officers are and then the

(54:37):
door opens at eleven am. It's the police woman with
live TikTok on her phone. She said, look how many
are there to this is the cop Look how many
of their Tommy? And then when I come out for
the interview at six o'clock, and this is why I've
seen a massive change. I come out for the interview
at six for the phone call at six o'clock, there's
two sergeants there. I said, right, I just used the
phone and they said you fucking nailed it, that you

(54:57):
nailed it. No trouble because they he heard me on
the phone earlier and they say in the message is
no trouble. So again I need to stress, which I'm
going to stress in the build up to his next demonstration.
It's not a piss up, right, it's not. Don't get
on the coach with thirty lads at eight in the
morning to start drinking beer. There's always one out of
the thirty, or it probably used to be me. Yeah,
there's always one that gets a little bit out of control.

(55:19):
That man needs to be rained in. We need to
control ourselves. And I'm thankful to the football lads at
each one of these events. Yeah, but football adds get
a bad name. And I think it's football ads that
will step forward each time, and will each time step
forward who are hard working, decent men, but who are
not afraid either. But they don't run around acting like
morons like some people do it demonstrations. They'll keep them

(55:39):
in line. So we've managed to keep our own supporters
in line. If there's any problems. I said to the
police in the first meetings. When we had the first
meeting for the first demonstration at Parliament Square, I sat
down and it was and then the briefing because they
weren'tletting us do anything. This is what they always do you,
so I said, right, lads, let me tell you what
we will do. I said, I'm going to pick the
same day in the same time as a Palestine in March,

(56:02):
and I'm going to organize a march on the Tower Bridge.
And I know the rules because I've done it with
the Idel. You can't stop us. As a static protest,
you can't stop it. Yeah, but I don't actually want
to do that. Yeah, but we do want to have
a voice. So we'd rather pick a day where there's
no other demonstrations. We'd rather work with you. And if
Antifa want to be here, I'll tell you what, We'll
go ten miles that way. Yeah. So we don't want

(56:23):
to see them, but to do this, we want a screen,
we want a family atmosphere. We want permission. And the
police were great, and I said, lads, and what I'm
going to ask you, and we have an agreement by
we record everything and they and I'm going to hold
and then the met police have been great, have been great,
but we were at war with them basically before that.
When I say we patriots, patriots coming under attack if

(56:44):
the time they held a demonstration. Now, in this meeting
with the police said we don't want to see ya.
Just being honest with you. We don't need to see ya.
You don't need to have riot police. What we'll do
is and this what we do now, we go through
the route and say where's the flaspoint, where's a possible flashpoint?
And the flashpoint's there and it's a side road where
that's where they're demonstration is, so may be a flashpoint.
I right. We'll put one hundred stewards there, so as

(57:04):
our crowds walk past this way, there'd be one hundred
of our people lying in that street and they will
make sure no one gets through, because our supporters want
to attack our own stewards and our stewards that come forward.
And if you've been a steward, thank you, yeah, because
the success of these events is thanks to you. It's
not just thanks to me, and it's not thanks to you,
it's thanks to the commitment of our supporters who have
showed absolute respect for the people who are asking them.

(57:25):
And these were all volunteers. So we form our own barrier,
which means there's no clash for the police, and basically
say to police, stay away, because if you come out
and wear right shields, it's going to provoke.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
For you.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
And do you know when I watch the demonstration back
and I see little kids clapping the police and we
thank the police afterwards and said thank you for today,
because we've had a very successful day, peaceful. And the
reason why I worry because I know who's coming our
demonstrations in age women, many of them sixty seventy eight
year old women, young children. We need to make sure

(57:55):
there's a safe environment for those people to kind of
have a demonstration, which the police have again in the
last three events, four events, it's been a total success.
And that's been a total success because we go in
for weeks and weeks and weeks of planning. I was
in London last week obviously that's when that instant habbened
at St Pancras. I met all day with the police
and there's a lot of planning behind it and a

(58:16):
lot of organization behind it. But also we've come we've
the tarnishing and the liwes just don't work. It's like
when you've got caught two hundred thousand people there and
then your headlines come out calling far away hooligans. But
they've all been there. They now know your lawyers on
every issue and they're outraged by it. But again I
just say that again, I say it's a lads, this

(58:38):
is going to be the biggest, the biggest political patriotic
gather in this country's ever seen. Don't do not let
us down, do not fuck it up, don't fuck not
fuck it up, do not fuck up. And if anyone's
wearing a battlelava or mask, we will take it off
them because this is an overton Windows shift shifting moment.

Speaker 13 (58:57):
It's a shifting moment. There's a lot of people who
would love to see you fall flat on your face.
Tommy standby, because of course we are a new show.
We're going to get to the news and then I'll
come to.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
You to react. Breaking right now.

Speaker 13 (59:09):
Reform UK under growing pressure after being accused of going
woke with the new female MP Sarah Poachin define Nigel
Farage and saying that digital ID is something she has
no problem with.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Watch what do you feel about ID cards? Digital ID cards?
Is that something that Reforming UK would support?

Speaker 14 (59:33):
Well, look, I personally don't have a problem with an
ID card.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
You know, I don't see what the issue is.

Speaker 14 (59:38):
Most of our ID most of our information now is
on our smartphones anyway, and we cross the system though, well,
what's more, how much more could we be at risk?
As I say, all of our information is out there
in a cloud, in the ether, whatever you want to
call it. It's all available, isn't it. We can all

(59:59):
be tracked now if somebody wants to tr.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
No, you cannot trust the system. You cannot trust the system.
There are approachent Do you not get it?

Speaker 13 (01:00:09):
As I posted on X everything I've worn for months
about Reform UK has exploded this week now, a centrist
party of the establishment in just one week, I've said
they are four digital ID four men and women's prisons,
four psych tests of its candidates, four party NDAs to
take away free speech, anti mass deportations.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
How depressing. Tommy Robinson, you endorsed Reform UK before the
last election. So did I.

Speaker 13 (01:00:33):
I was very open about the fact that I voted
for that party. I believe that Nigel Farage will be
prime minister. I was actually the first to predict it
that he'll be Prime minister in twenty But what is
going on with this very clear move to the left.
And again, I know a lot of people get angry
this discussion problem and a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Can get angry, and I understand why because they see
the only hope and Reform as challenging the conservatives and labor.
Is that true the garden Baby only hope. No, No,
I don't believe. I don't believe they are. There's any
hope in Reform. I don't believe. And that's going to
upset some people. I wish there was, Yeah, I really
wish there was. I wish that Nigel Frage would have
took up the battom for the voiceless community. The majority

(01:01:14):
of this majority of this country in recent polls have
said they're concerned and they do not believe Islam is
compatible with the West. Yeah, they do not believe it
is because it's not. Yeah, Nigel Frage and Reform arebannoning
the one talking about it. And then people make the
excuse of well, they're just waiting till they get in. Well,
Girt Wielders didn't wait till he get got in. Girt
Wilder's won the Dutch elections by being brave, fearless and
telling the truth the whole time.

Speaker 13 (01:01:34):
Donald Trump, Donald Trump did not pander and start becoming
weak and people saying he's just trying to get into office.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
He's trying to appeal to the mainstream. We are the mainstream,
the mainstream British public that are voting for reform. All
the people are voting for reform are voting for them
because they want mass deportations. They're fed up of Islam,
They're fed up with this transgender it's not nonsense. They're
fed up with these things. It's why they're voting for them.
But they're voting for the country's primed, are ready for
populous revolution politically, and we get a party that betray

(01:02:00):
and go back on everything and not just that. How
are you going to tackle the Islamization of this country?
Some people don't want to hear this. With a Muslim
chairman of your party? Do you think Marie le Penn
would have a Muslim chairman of her party in France?
Do you think Wilders would? Do you think any of
the leader Do you think the AfD alternate for Deutschland
who want remigration, who won twenty one percent of the vote,

(01:02:21):
do you think they would the Swedish Democrats when I
started activismon one one percent and now twenty four percent. Yeah,
they're not got Muslim leaders because they've got to tack
all the Islamization and they've got to do things to
do that. And at the minute, there was a there
was a fancy dinner for Reform a few months ago.
It was before whilst I was in jail, and I
knew someone a businessman that was talking to that was

(01:02:42):
going to that go and sack meel. It was twenty
five thousand pound a ticket. Do you know the whole
head table of Reform's meal with Nigel Franch Pakistani Muslims.
So I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but didn't they just take
a million pounds yesterday from a well economic forum Muslim.
It's like, you can't Nigel flip flop for arch he
changes on everything for me. Your party don't believe in

(01:03:05):
free speech, you don't believe in democracy. So people are saying, yeah,
but we need we need reform. Reformer filling themself with
all the X stories, net zero pro net zero, people
phone at zero, politicians, remainers, remainers, left wingers, labor liberal,
They're filling all the council. It's just the same bullshit.
It's like the country is ready for political revolution to

(01:03:25):
get rid of these absolute traitors in Parliament, and you're
filling your whole Party with the same traiters that were
in Parliament. Well, he actually.

Speaker 13 (01:03:32):
Told the New Statesman the other day, Nora, this is
that he wants Reform UK to be to the left
of the Conservative Party on immigration by the next selection.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
I saw it, I've seen it all. But Reform voters
don't want to hear this, and Reform members don't want
to hear this, and I'm sorry, but it's the truth.
I'm sorry. Do you know what?

Speaker 13 (01:03:54):
We did support Reform, That's the thing, even even when
I and I said it on the show at the time.
But when I came to see you in H and
P Woodhill in December, Nigel France had just launched those
attacks on you, and I thought it was important that
you had an opportunity to respond in some way, even
though you would be hind bars. But you were very
clear to me you didn't at that point. Now I

(01:04:16):
still want to attack Reform, you didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Want to do.

Speaker 13 (01:04:19):
What you said is that you wanted them to stop
their attacks on you. That was your message even at
that point. And a lot's changed since then, I guess, well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
A lot's changed in the fact of Shamina Bengham, Nigel
letter come back when you think about that, they'll let
men go into women's prisons, They'll the demographic change he
doesn't care about. No, Now, I'm sorry, White English, White Brits,
by the current trend, will be minority by twenty forty one.
That's unacceptable. That's not racist to say that. It's unacceptable.

(01:04:53):
It would be unacceptable for black Nigerians to become a
minority in Nigeria. It would be unacceptable for the Japanese
to become a minor in Japan. Is unacceptable for white
British to become a minority in prom The demographic replacement
that's replacing us is not black, it's not Hindu, it's
not sekh because they're birth rates are exactly the same
as ours. It Islamic demographic. Now what does Nigel do

(01:05:16):
zea Yusuf buys a seat for two hundred pound? Now
at the same time, this is where I don't want
to go down a rabbit hole. But Maria Pench has
been banned from standing for election. Right did you see that?
Did you see our force seal force? Did she forces?

Speaker 13 (01:05:29):
Basically yes, the for trying to use the corruption so
she was used parliament. Is that what you mean using
money when she was in the European Union. So when
she had the European Union, using the money that's given
to the European Union because they get big money, it's
basically just a big Ponzi scheme. They all get to
keep money using that for the for the Home for
French elections. Nigel Frange was under investigation for exactly this

(01:05:53):
and is again it's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
So Nigel Frange in twenty nineteen I believe was under
investigation for exactly.

Speaker 13 (01:06:01):
The parliamentary authorities are investigating him again now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
It was interesting, probably because they probably aren't now he's
gone full woke. I spoke the agreement. I spoke to
alex Phllips about this and she said that is the
number one concern about how the establishment are going to
try to stop They're not going to try and stop him.
He is, then they're not. They might have been trying
to stop him, but now he's part of them. So
that's what I mean if you look at it. But
what's her.

Speaker 13 (01:06:25):
Point would be, and I'm interested in your view on
this that this is why Nigel had to change because
there is no look at what you're man join the club.
There's no chance of him becoming Prime minister unless he
does bend to their will. Do you think that is
a fair argument at all, Because there's a lot of
people within Reform who say they're all saying, just trust us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
They're all saying just trust us. They're all saying that
you don't Trump didn't do it, just didn't do it.
In fact, they just stayed to truth. The Penn will
win the next elections. Yeah, whether they stop her, her
number two will win. If you look at the trend,
it might take another four years. But she's never been
These people have never been. Nigel's bending on every issue.

Speaker 13 (01:07:07):
Would you rather have Nigel Fara's Prime Minister than slippery Starmer?

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Would I rather yeah, just tell the truth now? Would
you listen? Would I think this country needed kiss somewhere now?
I think we need a Kistarmer to help part of
the process of the mass awakening of people. I think
we needed it. How can we survive eight years of it?
Probably not. We've probably lost the country by that point.
But what's Nigel doing They're going to do when he
gets in. If he's banning people from talking about Islam,

(01:07:34):
if he's kicking people out for having a view on transgenderism.
If he's if he's already making the people sign NDA's
anyone who stands as an MPI, councilor has to sign that.
They won't. They won't mention my name. Psychiatricists, psychiactre testing,
but they're allowed to mention my name. Do you believe
a free speech or not? And I made my money
they don't think they're quite clear they they don't. Then
it comes and where the hell's your USAF come from? Well,

(01:07:55):
where's he come from? As he's been two undred ground
and got a seat at the head table.

Speaker 13 (01:07:59):
And how on earth does he go from effectively being
sacked by for within forty eight hours back in a
position as powerful even though he threatened to blow the
whistle on racism within Reform UK.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
It's insane. But I want to talk to you about
London because obviously this city is in deep, deep trouble.

Speaker 13 (01:08:21):
It is my city and it's very depressing to see.
There was a lot of hope that Aunt Middleton, who
is speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
I believe.

Speaker 13 (01:08:32):
There was a lot of hope that he was aligning
himself with Reform UKME and he even attended the inauguration
Trump's inauguration with Nigel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Fraj and.

Speaker 13 (01:08:42):
No, no, no, but he was in they were at
what he's sort of at the party at Washington, d C.
But no, Nigel wasn't at the actual inaugural.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
To any of the actual inaugurations. I think after a
spat with me in a musk, I think he was
left out. Katie Hopkins said that, yeah, you think she
was over there. He went over there thinking he was
going to and just got pretty much sideline from what
I understand. And you think that was because he didn't
back you, No, I think it's because I don't think

(01:09:09):
it was to do if not back in me. I
think it was to do with showing absolute cowardice and
betrayal of free speech. So it didn't have to be.
It wasn't about me. It was about the fact that
he should have stood up for free speech and he
made a decision to instead of stand up for free speech,
come on the side of the establishment and attack and
trying to destroy someone who was exercising their free speech.
So I think that's what it's about. But of course
what's happened with Aunt Middleton is shockingly predictable, but I

(01:09:32):
still think we need to talk about it because the moment,
the moment that he started.

Speaker 13 (01:09:38):
Talking about you on social media before UK started distancing
itself from him. Now, Tommy, they are briefing to Tim
Ship and the political editor of the Spectator.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
You know, great guy but a very establishment journalist, that
the person who they have chosen to replace at Middleton
is a Cunningham. Now he seems great. I've heard you, Tommy.
She is another Muslim? Is that an issue? That's probably
an issue for Li Anderson because Linson is on recorders
saying that Sadie can't get the city away to his friends,

(01:10:11):
as in Muslim friends, and that's what forced him to
leave the Conservative part with Lee. Anderson said, so what's
his view now is Leila is Leila and the Muslim
lady's going to give it to her friends.

Speaker 13 (01:10:20):
Look another thing, how do you feel about the fact
that Aunt Middleton put what would have been a very
easy path to stand in Parliament.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Or city Hall?

Speaker 13 (01:10:34):
How do you feel about the fact that he put
you and supporting you ahead of that because it must
have been mortified.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Again, I think it shows that the character of Aunt Middleton,
he's a very strong man and that's what this country needs.
It needs strong men. Not weak men and it needs
principled men, so Aunt Middleton. And if you look at
what he said, he didn't speak about me having a
perfect history. He spoke about my journalism, of what he's
watched in my investigations, and he said that it was
important work. Yeah, and doesn't have the perfect history. No,

(01:11:01):
it doesn't know it and who does? Who does? Nigel
doesn't trust me? Right, that's ship I've got on him.
What do you mean I've got so much? Man, he's wake,
he's a rat. I've got loads again again. Only only when.

Speaker 13 (01:11:19):
Are you talking about professonally you're talking about politically, I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
About personally, politically, financially, I'm talking about all of it.
The man surrounds himself with money, Launders for the cartels.
It's like fraudsters. But yet he has a keeps having
a kick at me, and not just keeps having a
kick at me. I know everything about his swordid personal life,
and I've made sure I know everything, and I've had
to know everything because he's sitting on a national TV

(01:11:43):
telling people that I've got convictions for violence against women
my ex wife whilst satur storgical confinement is having to
put a state now and explain to my kids when
they go to school. People might be saying, your dad's
violent against me. It's because of Nigel Franch. He put
my family in such a shit position at the worst
moment in my life because he's a coward who's tried.
We're going on the attack on behalf of the establishment.
So up until this point, I'd never attacked Nigel France.

(01:12:04):
I just kept saying, stop attacking us, Yeah, stop attacking us.
But I know so much about him though, and again
I don't even want to. I don't want to waste
my time on it. I got away say I don't
want to waste my time on that. And unfortunately I
don't want to upset all the reform supporters or members, yes,
because I know many of them see the only get it,
and I want to want people to know. Okay, well
what about this stip on September thirteenth. It's not going

(01:12:26):
to be an anti reform. No, I'm not going to
talk about reform. It's nothing to do with reform. But
I am Middleton. I think could he still be Mayor
of London? Yeah? I hope he isn't A hope. The
whole British public back him. He's standing as an independent.
People saying, well, she's he's going to stand as an independent. Yeah,
you're standing there. Yeah, he's standing and he's got from
my understandings, he's got it all set so and you

(01:12:47):
would back him, back him one hundred percent. London needs
a strong man. England needs a strong man. Britain, he's
a strong man. Look at his past, look at he is.
He is the strong, staunch leadership that that that capital
city needs to get get rid of the lawlessness, to
bring it in order to give the police confidence to
break down the criminals, to give the city back to
the good law of Biden. Citizens of that sea. Look

(01:13:09):
at the state of our capital. See look at the
crime rates, the rape rates, all through the immigration that
look at all of it. It needs a strong man. Now,
people say, I've seen the excuse from reform voter saying,
which she needs to appeal to the Muslim vote. Muslims
make up to fifteen percent of London fifteen percent. Well,
it's still love eighty five percent. Okay. Now we need
to stop looking at the people who voted, when to

(01:13:29):
start looking at the people who didn't vote. Because Kirstimer
got voted in on nine million votes. Eighteen million people
didn't vote. Nigel's not doing any effort, I don't think
or Reform to try and get those people. In fact,
he's alienating with always bullshit policies. But he's not he's
going for the left. He's going for the left, he's
going for the Muslims, He's going for the He knows
and they know. They the establishment know that people are
fed up with this because pie and are fed up

(01:13:50):
with labor. So reform could be called whatever it wants
under any new name. As the only opposition, that's what
people are going to vote for. So the trend you're seeing.
So when people say that Advance, I think Nigel doesn't
care because it's not going to affect his vote or
his membership. He can do all this bullshit. Yeah, because
there's no other option. That's why I think it is
so important that Advanced UK. Well, I was going to.

Speaker 13 (01:14:10):
Answer you about this, So what happened because when I
saw you in December, you were very clear that you
didn't view joining a political party as part of your future.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Ben Habib launches Advance UK.

Speaker 13 (01:14:28):
He says it's not a left or a right wing party,
but it's very clear on the issues that you are
most passionate about, he is very much to the right
of Reform UK. How did those discussions take place and
what made you change your mind and decide to actually

(01:14:50):
say no, no, no, I am going to join a
political party, which is a change in strategy for you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Well, I looked at Nigel and I looked at Reform
and I looked at all their changing policies, mass deportations,
demographic change, Shamina Begnam, transgender issues. They've gone back on
everything because there's no opposition to them, so they don't care.
Now the Brexit Party forced a conservative party on issues.
There needs to be a party. It's going to force
refall back into their position and start representing the public

(01:15:14):
in what they wanted them for originally. So then I
looked at I looked at Advanced UK, I looked at
you Kip. I think Nick ten Cony is probably the
best new coming face and activists that I've seen. I
think it doesn't brilliant work, but I looked at what
UKIP done at the same time. It's just being on
this and it's nothing to do with Nick ten Cony.
But what they'd done to Jared Batton and what the

(01:15:35):
neec within that party, which Nigel Fledge controlled at the time,
and made sure that they closed the party down. He
stopped any opportunity for a populist party that represented the
working class. They went, they tripled Jared bat and tripled
their membership. They shut him down and got rid of him.
It didn't make sense right as an attack by the
establishment to close down any opportunity. So I looked at that.
I looked at Howard Cox. I looked at some great
representatives who were kicked out of Reform for speaking up,

(01:15:59):
not personally about me, but about issues I'd stood on,
and they lost there. They worked every day for years
for a political party. I need to get the boot.
I looked at the treatment of Rupert Low when I
come out. I looked into it all. It's disgusting. He's
a great man, he's brilliant. I was wishing that. I
was wishing that when this advance launched there would be

(01:16:19):
Rupelo and ben Abee. I was thinking, please be ru
did ask Rupert to become leader? You know, That's what
I was hoping it was. And again I'll say it again,
I don't I don't want to be involved in politics,
but I believe after seeing the way that our supporters
were described by Richard Tice at our events. They said
that lot, that lot, the most derogatory, that lot irrelevant. Yeah,

(01:16:41):
the same way he spoke about ben A bieb Look
at what Bena Bee give to So I'll just look
at the Wayne frag has treated everyone, Yeah, and the
betrayal of them. And then I saw that there's a
political party that and there needs to be so looked.
I looked at Advance and there's a couple of people
that have helped me tirelessly in the background with my films,
my work, probably some of the best people I've ever

(01:17:01):
met in my life, people I trust and I knew
that they're heavily involved in Advance. So I had lots
of conversations with them, lots of conversations with what their
goals are. And then I think that the United Kingdom
movement needs a political party that's gonna support their views
and support those people and give a voice to them.
I wish it would have been Nigel Franch. In fact,

(01:17:22):
I begged him on July twenty seventh, just stop lying
about us, share be the party that there's a momentum coming.
We're going to build a cultural movement. I want my
job to be waking people up. They need to be
directed politically and reform of just portrayed them at every level.
And things are really changing. So there's a couple of
things I wanted to show you.

Speaker 13 (01:17:41):
Firstly, this new poll just released, Scarlett Maguire posted on
x and she said it shows seven and ten are
worried about political violence. Here's the most shocking line. One
in five say that participate if things get worse. David
Shipley commented on that same tw percent of the population,
saying that I'd be prepared to participate in political violence.

(01:18:03):
It's not a statistic generally associated with healthy, thriving democracies.
At the same time, what you have is because of
the threat of Jeremy Corbett and Zara Sultana's new Islamist
party Labor. And I want to show you this new
video Tommy constantly appeasing the Muslim vote. So this is

(01:18:27):
our chancellor, right, this is our chancellor.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
This un What did you think, well, I think if
she was meeting members of the Spanish community in the UK,
was she walking in a maracas of course not. I
mean it's like, what are you doing this? Humiliate It
is embarrassing and do you know what, I've seen this
the whole time in my life. Islam doesn't budge at all.
I'll give you an example. I had a meeting when

(01:18:49):
we were leaving the English Defensual League to His name
was Tom Robertson, Bishop of the Bishop of Pontiffract set
up a meeting with us as leaders of DAIL and
leaders of the de Abandi sect of his life. Yeah,
and they had the Mufti that come to the meeting
was preaching that the Golden Dome Mosque the day before
when we looked him up here. So we went into
this meeting with the church leaders. It's in a church

(01:19:10):
in Oxfordshire. There was a secret meeting and it was
to frash fash fash things out why we're angry. And
before the meeting, the bishop briefed us that five and
five and I six see the future of this country
as the a bandy, yeah, which is the very conservative
Islamic sect. This group from Jewsbury, very conservative. The'subleaky jamatt mosque.

(01:19:31):
It's real, it's problematic for us. Yeah. So we went
into the meeting, and then the church leader said, well,
see we've been having we've been bringing the communities together.
We had a Christmas lunch together. Yeah, for diversity. I said,
you lot had a Christmas lunch. He said yeah. I said,
as in, how many Muslims comes to the Christmas lunch?
How many Christians? He said, well, there was like twenty

(01:19:53):
of us and twenty. Then I said did you have
wine at the Christmas lunch? And he just looked. I said,
you had a shara compliant Christmas lunch? You mug like, basically,
you bent for everything. You have your wine. It's our celebration,
it's our culture, it's it's our way of life. If
they don't like it, they can go, yeah, it's their problem.
You're you're bending and changing your way of life for them.

(01:20:14):
It's muggy. That's what that looks like. That's embarrassing. It's humility.
And you know when Marie La Penn, Marilla Penn went
to meet Saudi leaders, did you see it? And they
went to give her a headscarf and she walked out
at the meeting, she threw it on the floor and said,
I'm not putting that. I'm not I'm not oppressing myself
for you, you muslimer, when you want to cover your hair,
cover your hair, what is this clown? It's embarrassing, it's

(01:20:35):
total appeasement, it's cowardice, it's zero leadership, and it's zero
Do you know what with her covering her hair like that,
women are dying right now in Iran in order to
take the hijab off, and she as a traitor to
real feminism, real women's rights, and they're so humiliating to
what that's going to be our bloody leap, one of
our leaks. But it is exciting in a way.

Speaker 13 (01:20:57):
What's happening with with Harben's I agree because you know
what we actually need to happen. And again a lot
of people disagree with me on this, but trust me,
what we actually need to happen is a true smashing
of the UNI Party. Now, that does mean proportional representation,
me too, Me too, And a lot of people have
spread a lot of lives about this for a long
time and said that proportional representation automatically means left wing empowered.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
It absolutely does not. It doesn't.

Speaker 13 (01:21:24):
What it means is that true political powers can be
ideologically pure. Now, I think It's good in a way
that we have this hard left Islamist party showing who
they really are, right because this is a party, by
the way, that does want first cousin marriages. This is
a party that absolutely recognizes harmas I mean, this is

(01:21:45):
an extremist party. But what's ironic at the moment is
a Labor that actually believes a lot of what these
guys they don't exactly but pretends they don't unless they're
in a meeting.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Like that what I mean, And now they don't know
what to do. Jess Phillips is not going to know
what to do. None of them are going to know
what I do. Because Jerry Corbyn is going to take
the Muslim vote. Jeremy Corbyn is going to tell the
truth on what you think as Labor have always masqueraded
it and hid it and aligned with this secretly, but
then put the smiling face on. But yeah, I want
to see Labor. I think, as you said, if Corbyn
splits a Labor vote, if you have reform, you have conservatives,

(01:22:18):
hopefully you have advanced and hopefully advanced UK push them,
push push. I just think I've seen how many Muslim
It's like Za Yusuf is just picking all Muslims for
the new candidates. Yes, there's one in Wales. It was
another Muslim lad. Yes.

Speaker 13 (01:22:31):
Well, it's complete appeasement, that's what it is. It is
an appeasement strategy, and it's the opposite strategy of Donald Trump.
What they are saying, and this is what's so depressing,
is basically, oh, look, the country's fucked anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
So we've sort of just got to see cultural takeout.
Did you see what he said? By twenty fifty the
Islamic demographic is that strong in the UK that we
cannot alienate them. Yes, it's like, which part of Islam
and its ideology do you want us to coordinate with?
Except well. In the same interview, though, he also said
that mass deportations were impossible, and tell that to Donald Trump.

(01:23:06):
They are not impossible. Zero people cross the border last week.
Zero we could stop with the right people in power,
you stop immigration tomorrow, you'd stop the boats tomorrow.

Speaker 13 (01:23:18):
There's no will or no courage to island. I mean Australia.
Were they stopped the invasion overnight?

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:23:23):
Absolutely, Look Tommy, over the past six months, for a
lot of that period, you have been unable to respond
to your critics. You were locked up, and so what
I wanted to do today is give you the opportunity
to see what some of your most strident critics, both
on the right and the left, said about you during

(01:23:46):
that time when you were in HMP Woodhill, when you
could not hit back, so that you were able to
respond specifically to some of these claims.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
That were made over that period. And so I first
want you to look at what Piers Morgan saying about you.
He's not a nice guy.

Speaker 15 (01:24:05):
This is a pretty repellent human being. People in America
do look at Tommy Robinson in a very different.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Way to how we do here.

Speaker 15 (01:24:11):
The reason Nigel Farach has disowned him and what's having
to do with him is we see through him. Tommy
Robinson is a convicted football hooligan, has monetized his hatred
of Islam. It has walked, in my view, all his
so called journalism, activism, whatever he wants to call it,

(01:24:31):
because it's always skewed against Muslims. It's never fair and
balanced in any way. Free Tommy Robinson, who is to
most people in my country an extremely insidious individual who
should absolutely not be freed right now. There's a completely
weird misunderstanding of who Tommy Robinson is and what he
represents in America's because he's managed to position himself very

(01:24:54):
cleverly as this kind of freedom fighter. So who's only
in prison because he blow the whistle and all this stuff.
So they've silenced him by putting him in prison. None
of that is true.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
I don't know if you were aware of all of that. No,
I wasn't. What do you say I've monetized my opposition
to Islam? You can buy my Koran at trbooks dot co.
Do you're not denying that one? Watching that? It's like
when he says I'm a hated comfortab walk down the

(01:25:26):
street with me, Piers serious, hated in fact, in fact,
if I have gone his show, I'm going to challenge
him to that. I'll tell you what, Piers, me and
you go for a walk, Go for a walk through
a few major cities. See what reception you get, what
reception I get. We see who's hated and who's loved.
So it's like to the establishment, to the people within
the m twenty five In the Champagne Bars that appears,
Morgan goes to Maybe that is the mood I'm feeling.

(01:25:49):
But to the betrayed, forgotten, neglected British population, I'm one
of them. They when they see the attack on me,
they know it's an attack on them. When they see
the censorship of me, they know it's to censor them.
When they put me in prison, they know it's to
send a message to them. So unfortunately, yeah, do you
know what, because Temple really put him in his place

(01:26:11):
after that and order. But it was interesting though.

Speaker 13 (01:26:13):
I don't know if you were aware that it was
actually a real campaign and it was a campaign designed
to change American Well, no, that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Nigel was doing. No, no, So I was worried. So
first January comes ring home and this was the moment
that prison was worth it. I remember sat my kids
down beforehand. So I'm going to release this film. I
have to and if it can get seen by ten
million people kids, Yeah a changes Bailey's life because everyone's
going to watch it in that and my kids love Bailey.

(01:26:41):
Bailey live with us for four years three four years. Yeah,
he was with us from Christmas dinner. The kids like
he become like a brother to my kids. So I said,
it's going to change Bailey's life. It's going to give
him a fresh snile in his life, not just that,
it's going to be an opportunity for so many people
trying to stand the corruption and the weaponization and they're
being lied to. And had this goal of ten million views,

(01:27:02):
and then it was the first week in January and
I've rung home my son and he's like, Dad, I'm
what what he said? El L Musk shared the field man,
I'm I swear to God. I'm like, yes, I've in
the cell and I'm jumping around the cell. I'm like
fucking yes, and I'm jumping up because I knew at
that moment. And then he said he shared the rapeer Britain,

(01:27:23):
the cold story. I still speak to the coole. The
cor was one of the bravest young girls I've ever met.
She was the first person to put her face on
those documentaries to challenge those gangs in Telford against everything.
She had a real backlash from it. She suffered a
lot from it. So when they knew that her story
had now reached the world on forty five million views
or sake, I was like, yes and I'm going through

(01:27:44):
this with my son and I swear in that seven days.
I bet I felt free. I was on social confinement.
I bet I felt freer than Kirstan. Yes.

Speaker 13 (01:27:50):
And it was a game changing week because I was
in New Zealand right, so I'd just gone back to
New Zealand to be with my family for Christmas and
New Year's so just after I'd seen you actually and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
It was amazing, even seen in New Zealand.

Speaker 13 (01:28:04):
It was a true international story and that's what was
so exciting about it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
And do you know they do you know who shifted
this a lot?

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Which was?

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Which was? And I understand this from the emails and
letters I received in jail. It was Jordan Peterson sitting down,
Jordan Peters sitting down and having discussion so respected internationally,
and Gad Sad and many of these people give me
the time, Jordan, give me the time. Intere was massive,
had four massive formal interviews. It was a massive shifting
moment from understanding and understand this. So I'm very grateful

(01:28:32):
to Jordan. I'm very grateful to his wife, Tammy. I'm
very grateful for the opportunity to tell my story without
the distorted image that's given by the British media, and
that doesn't mean, of course Jordan's gon agreement on every
single thing or not. Think I've done things in the
past that are wrong, but at that moment in our
country and our time, it was needed and that issued
and the platform they give to discuss the rape of Britain.

(01:28:53):
And when I saw pis More when my son said
that Eanil Musk has just tweeted and he's used the
phrase rape of Britain. So I'm just thinking, mate, you
have to understand. You've been there, you know when your censored.
So the best most important work I've ever done in
my life the sitting down with the survivors and understanding

(01:29:13):
them and getting to know them for eighteen months and
seeing the pain in their life and seeing them driven
to attempts on suicide. Even during the documentary one of
them tries to kill herself. Seeing all of this, and
then releasing these films on Rumble that aren't getting the
traction or scene. It's painful, it's painful, and it's designing
and it's not right. So then that week is like

(01:29:35):
yes and all that's blowing up. And then to see
Piers Morgan getting schools, but Tim Paul when he's hammering
me and said, okay, okay, he's not perfect, he's wrong,
but he's the only one I remember talking about. He's
the only one I saw that brought it to the
world's attention. He's the only one. And listened to peers
then trying to do well, No it wasn't it was
and crier, Okay, you go ask the British public, how

(01:29:56):
many have you heard about Islamic raat gangs from an crier? Yes?
Who's the other big one, of course was Nigel Fargeat.

Speaker 16 (01:30:06):
Tommy Robinson character who some see as a hero and
all right, you know he's talked about grooming gangs and
other things, although hardibed on his own on that is he.
I mean, I was first being condemned in twenty twelve
for daring to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
It, and was talking in two thousand and two. Yeah
though she was. I mean, she is the heroine.

Speaker 16 (01:30:23):
She's the heroine of all of this as indeed, to
be fair Andrew Norfolk, who was writing for the Times,
you know, and se Reid on the Mail. There were
some very brave figures early on, but when figures like myself,
as Party of Leaders dared pop the head over the
parapet we were smashed back down very very quickly. So
you know Robinson's talked about this, but he has a
criminal record, a list as long as your arm, violence,

(01:30:47):
violence against women. I mean, I could go on, Nick,
and all I'm saying is, look, mister Robinson, do what
the hell you like. We are totally separate from that.
And I never wanted and you know this, You've known
me long enough to know I've never wanted my parties
to have anything to do with the BMP or extremism.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
And I never won. If they attracted people, then, mister
Freus again, I've never had a conviction or any arrest
or any questioning for violence against women's Nigel Farg just
sat there lying, and not just lying but telling the
most old malloy. It's like there's Pfile and then there's
woman Beer and he's telling the whole platform there that
I am a woman Beer, which I'm not and never

(01:31:25):
have been. So he's a liar first off. Then he
goes on a list about what I talked about in
twenty twelve and I was beatn back down. Well did
you get back up, Nigel, because we've got back up
every time. We haven't an althera, mabitastown or silence us.
We've continued against all the threats. Okay, without your security
that you have, We walked the streets. I had to
live in Luton for the first first at the start

(01:31:46):
of the whole English defensively walk in the streets of
Looton with every Islamic ghetto gang blowing my house up,
setting fire to my car's battering me in the streets,
hospitalizing me. So mate. Unfortunately, and Crier I was in
a debate show of an Crying and thirteen on a
documentary where she had no idea of the reasons joe
An Cri had done. She went to the im arms

(01:32:07):
and begged them, please, can you do something about this?
And they said no, yeah, and then what did she do? So?
I great that an cry has tried to talk about it,
but in reality, then what did she do?

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
She shut up about it like everyone else.

Speaker 17 (01:32:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Andrew Norfolk, I know he's dead. He died recently. In
his words, he knew it was happening for years. Along
come the English Defense League. He wanted to then take
it back like he's got some moral high ground as well.
He wanted to take it back from the far right,
concerned english men and fathers. He wanted to take it back,
so then he reported on it. So without the English

(01:32:40):
Defense League, Andrew Norfolk would have touched it. Without the
English Defense League, no one would have touched it, none
of other people. And as again Nigel Flage, who now
likes to get angry about it, he didn't talk about it.
It's like, mate, you knew about it, you didn't talk
about it. Do you know how many talks there about
far right? So when you Kip had their MEP group,
this is why I know Nigel's anka when they had
their MEP group. If you look at the populist parties

(01:33:02):
in Europe, who and they who are now gaining power,
who are the future of Europe? Will turn it for Deutschland,
Swedish Democrats, Flams Belang in Belgium, Freedom Party Fielders, all
of those groups aligned together in a group of UNI
in the European Union. UKIP refused to ever meet with them.
Now and what you Kip, Nigel looked down his nose

(01:33:25):
upon him as far right because they were telling the
truth for the last twenty years about Islamic immigration and invasion.
They will they were telling it when you couldn't tell it.

Speaker 13 (01:33:34):
What I mean trying saying that to Ion Hers who
very very nearly was killed for blowing the whizz that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
I mean she was one of them. She was one
of them. And but Nigel refused to align with them
because he aways saw himself as better like now he
and he sat there and he said, Tommy, you go
do your thing. Well, I've been trying to do my thing.
Do you keep attacking me?

Speaker 6 (01:33:58):
In line?

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
About me? You keep and and maybe is do you know? Personally?
So some people think will stop attacking Nigel Frige because
it doesn't do us any benefit. It's pretty hard even
sat here now, when I was sat in solitary confinement.
Imagine my kids watching that quick imagine my children watching
that lion scoundrel sit on national TV to a daytime audience,
a massive, massive audience on Nick Ferrari's show and saying

(01:34:21):
I've got a conviction for violence against women. At the
same time as this, Nigel was crying on TV about
Kenny Baidenok making a comment about his membership and he
was demanded she apologized, And so you've just gone and
told everyone I've got violence against women Nigel, if you
want again, I don't even want again. So I was
going to say, if you want all the things I
found out about you, which is a hell of a lot.
I know about every sordid affair, I know about every

(01:34:42):
person I know. I know about everything, and I'm not
just know about it. I've got evidence and recordings of it,
your mug. But it's just like again, I think I
don't want even want to go there. I just think
Nigel apologize, not to me, apologize to my family and
my ex wife because she had to make some groveling
statement because I've read it when about of jail, she
had to put some big statement out about how I've

(01:35:03):
never laid a finger on her because that's what he's
told people. So yeah, it's frustrating, and I'm probably getting
frustrated now because man, do me a sit here. You
have to put yourself in my shoes.

Speaker 13 (01:35:11):
That's why I wanted you to see it, because I
think it's important that you I haven't see what other
people saw.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
At the time. Was very unfair to do that when
someone's in prison. By the way, encount respond not just
in prison, but when I look at it, and in
this way, maybe I'm getting a bit of a bit
of hill or feeling sorry for himself. I think you
have no idea what I've gone through. You have no
idea what my wife's gone through. You've broke my family. Yeah,
I've been in prison. I've been in ten different prisons.
I've been beaten and had my teeth smashed in in

(01:35:38):
those jails. Nigel would last ten minutes in my shoes
when he walks outside this gate, H's a run away.
Without his half a million pounds security, you think he'd
be doing what he's doing. You think he'd mentioned one
word without the backed paid for security that he has.
So I think you wouldn't ask a second in my shoes.
You're a coward. You've never you've never shifted the over window.

(01:35:58):
You jump in after it's moved, and then you start
talking about the issue once it's acceptable to talk about,
and the only reason it's acceptable to talk about. And
this isn't just about me. It's because of Sammy Woodhouse.
It's because of the whistle blowers. Jermy whistle blows. We
don't even know their names off who were gagged and
lost their jobs. Jomy people lost their careers and were
canceled for trying to talk about this. Jommy school teachers

(01:36:19):
lost their jobs for joining the English Defense League. That
was the break in point of a lot of this,
and you still sit there and slam those people. So
I get frustrated because I know so many people who
have lost so much. And then I sit and think
about what I've gone through and my family have gone through.
All Nigels do it done is make millions and millions
and millions of pounds, and he sits there and say
I've monetized it. I was bankrupt, just for the record,

(01:36:39):
in twenty twenty two. Yeah, I was bankrupt, which means
every single financial payment I've ever had or done was investigated.
Every bank account I would put on oath and court
where they investigated every penny in every finance. There was
no big money for Israel anyway, Yeah, no big money
from Israel, but there was no money, so there was
no money. So I was banging around twenty twenty two.
I currently, whilst Nigel sitting making millions, I have three

(01:37:02):
hundred thousand pounds worth of debts given to me when
I walk down jail by the state. So he wouldn't
last a second in the persecution that I failed. And
let me tell you, if I was sat down and
given the deal like they tried to give me many times,
plead guilty, go home, say sorry, go home, I wouldn't
take the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
Nigel.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Yeah, so you wouldn't last a second in my shoes
to sit there and spout about me. And if you
wanted to take a chance to spout malby, but to
spout about me when I'm sat in solitry confinement after
playing a documentary. And you know what, it weren't the
first time. If you go back, you know when I
was in prison in twenty eighteen outside Leeds Crown Court,
I was put in jail. And when I come out
of jail, watch the video of Nigel Flange doing an
interview saying I should have been in jail when he's

(01:37:38):
a criminal and he's committed contempt to court. Now it
took eleven weeks from that court case to realize and
this is the judge's findings that the entire process was
flawed and unlawful. So Nigel was wrong. They jumped on
the establishment line. Then it's like each time when elol
Mus shared free Tommy Robson and there was a mass
momentum to free Tommy Robinson. Outrolled Nigel Franche Yes, basically

(01:38:00):
out roll Nigel, not outroad Hope, I hate not outrode Bold,
Keir Starmer, outroll Nigel Flang, Nigel Flange and sits there
across every TV show like that, trying to change the
public because he's got because they think the public will
listen to him, or the patriotic public all listen to him.
So he then comes out to condemn me and attack me.
He then comes out and say, well, like Elon Musk,
some some thick idiot, I'll explain to me Nigel when

(01:38:24):
I get to America. I'll basically explain to man in the.

Speaker 13 (01:38:27):
World, the best entrepreneur, the biggest brain in the plane,
most time alive.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
And Nigel is going to explain wouldn't take it when
he gets it. Musk wouldn't take it. I ship himself
thinking he would. I thought, No, Nigel's going to go
to America. Now he's going to slag me off demonoids
funk you did, Yeah, but it didn't want must must
didn't take it, mustn't taken. From what I understand, he
pretty much got run out of all the meetings everyone
just said see your last ship.

Speaker 13 (01:38:51):
Or Katie Hopkins, who was over there, told me that
a lot of people judged Farge for his position. Americans
have much much more awake, especially within the Republic.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
They care about freedom. Nigel don't. That's what comes from
That is the bottom line issue for Norgel. Don't give
a shit about free speech. It's very apparent JD vance
the Republican Party, Donald Trump, it's their first thing. They're
going to fall, They're going to die for it. Then
they're not budget Yeah, totally.

Speaker 13 (01:39:19):
The next clip is so one of these was when
you were in jail, Kimilla, tom and a present truny
Be News. The other is Patrick Christis from a while
ago that this went viral when.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
You were in jail and he did apologize for it.

Speaker 17 (01:39:35):
Watch this Tommy Robinson in this loose role as advisor
on grooming guns. Hey, what advice do you need on
grooming guns? B Do you want that advice coming from
a man who likes Tommy Robinson. It's not a good
look for the party whatsoever. Frankly, it's not a good
look for society. And I do really think there's just
demonstrates actually that there is an undercurrent. Not this subtle
level of racism. It's been level that you give in

(01:39:55):
the past. I think you could argue that this is
now much more overt.

Speaker 7 (01:39:58):
Elms doesn't quite see to understand who Tommy Robinson is
and what he represents, which is a misunderstanding that is
sometimes seen across the pond, you know, Americans and Canadians
thinking that Tommy Robinson is some kind of you know,
misunderstood folklore figure, when in fact he's a convicted criminal
and white supremacist who hasn't really done much, in fact,

(01:40:19):
is currently serving a sentence for contempt at court.

Speaker 13 (01:40:24):
White supremacist Tommy that is the She is the number one,
the flagship presenter now for gb News.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
She's a white supremacist. Again. The public, no, I'm not
a white supremacist. The public, thank you, didn't know she'd
done that. No, the public followed my story, so the public, no,
I'm not a white supremacist. So again she's rolled out
as establishment to lie, slant up to fame me, lie
about me, and she goes on about the how the

(01:40:51):
public view me again Now they don't not anymore, they don't.
They don't listen to you. Commia like, what's her name,
Comilla Tominy, where's she's from. I'm not she on gb News?
Where is she was? Her Daily Telegraph? Okay, I didn't
know another mainstream bullshit.

Speaker 13 (01:41:05):
But she made a documentary for the Daily Telegraph on
you when you were in prison, trying to back that up.
So trying to prove she proved that, Well, she spoke
to that horrible woman I don't even know her name,
who used to work for you, blonde blonde woman who's
a turncoat.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
I'm not just a current coat. So she fell in love.
I never touched her when I got out. She's got
a prison because she lost her job. It's really pretty,
it's pretty mad. It's like she's now got a new boyfriend,
go and have some kids, being a total widow. And
that's and that's who she meant to speak. What about
Christie's about Patrick Christy was racist? Were you surprised by that?

(01:41:44):
Surprised by watching it at the same time at the
same in since at the same time, I don't blame
a lot of people for their negative opinion they've had
on me because they were spoon fed it. And he
was working for ferage at the time. Remember too, Okay,
So I like Patrick, I watch him. Is it as missus?
Is that as missus? Yes, I like them both. I
think they're both great. So I don't know as he

(01:42:08):
made it, as he said anything since he said he's
learned since then? Okay, so yeah, do you know what?
But that went viral win when I was in jail. Okay, So, yeah,
he looks young. They're don't y he looks, but I don't. Yeah,
I don't blame you. Don't judge that. No, I don't
judge that. And he's young and most people can grow
up and learn a lot. And if you I might
not like me if I wasn't me, if I only

(01:42:30):
took what the media have said about me. So I
don't bear a grudge on it.

Speaker 13 (01:42:34):
Will you even said that about the dude who you
defended yourself against. Yeah, a station you you actually have
said you don't blame him, you blame the mainstream media.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
I blame community, Tomine, I blame these mugs. I blame
Nigel Franch because at the minute, say that gentleman at
the train station has watched the TV. He thinks I
beat up women anything, And I watched Supremacist. So maybe
Patrick Christie used to buy this ship. So they're building
an opinion based on me, which is what the media
do in the establishment. Do they create this bogey man

(01:43:04):
and then I walk down the street. They don't have
to end me because someone else is going to end me.
It happened with the Dutch politician when he was stabbed up,
and that person who stabbed him up literally thought you
were stabbing up Satan just because the bloke spoke about
Islam can go final one. I want to show you
see she should be sued for that, So should Nigel France.
To be honest, though you could suit, so should Nigel France.

(01:43:25):
Would you consider it or do you feel that's a
waste of it, just a waste of my energy in
my time, Like, well, see what I started to do.
But because you can category supremacist and you can categorically
prove I've never got a conviction of violence against women,
so I could categorically prove it, I'd probably rather stick
a camera in their face. It's more fun. It's more
fun seeing that they ain't gonna answer to it. Yeah,

(01:43:46):
because you're lying, Camilla, you're lying.

Speaker 13 (01:43:49):
Probably the one that you will surprise be the least
surprised by though, is this fun? I'm about to show you,
Jess Phillips, while you were in jail.

Speaker 18 (01:43:56):
Like Tommy Robinson, go out and talk about these cases.
They make it less people will be convicted. Justice is complicated.
Keeping people safe isn't just saying the hardest thing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
It is a complex fabric.

Speaker 18 (01:44:15):
And when you're not hearing things you think are happening,
after them won't be happening. And believe you may have
seen beyond the curtains, cock cop is much more likely
than conspiracy. The idea that we could fake the moon London,
we can't get a drop care pudding. Honestly, I absolutely
love any conspiracy theory.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
I'm like that, really these guys, have you met them
to lie about it?

Speaker 6 (01:44:41):
I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
Just like this is this is you have wildly.

Speaker 18 (01:44:45):
Overestimated the ability of these people.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
No, you are wildly underestimating the intellig of the public.
You've done, bitch. So what she's saying there, sorry, excuse
me again, she's saying that there's no conspiracy. And it's
probably more like also that what you're doing makes it
harder as you convict. No again, this was what they
spoon fed after the first first court case when I
was in twenty eight that I risked jeopardizing the trial.

(01:45:13):
Either I did jeopardize trial or I didn't. Yeah, even
my reporting influenced the trial or I didn't, and the
judges all found it didn't. So that means my report
him was one hundred percent legitimate and didn't bring about
any problem to the troll so it didn't risk the trial,
and they went with that, and they tried to attack
me with that again, roll out Nigel Frage trying to
say I risked the court case when I didn't. The
judges said, after my full video, we watched the entirety

(01:45:36):
of video video and nothing he said in that video
could have prejudiced this trill. So I've done nothing wrong,
so I haven't missed it. But what she says there,
which has just angered me and infuriated me, is she
trying to act like it's probably more a cock up,
like these people can do some big conspiracy. There was
a massive conspiracy from one end of this country to
the other, and in one council. It might have been
a mistake and it might have been isolated. But Rotherham, Telford, Oldham, Bradford,

(01:45:59):
knew Castle Oxford, the fifty five cities. And in these
fifty five cities, what we found from each investigation the
police knew, the council knew, religious leaders knew, the Muslim
community knew. Everyone knew. And Jess, you're lying, little fraud.
You knew. We've seen your begging. The reason why she
is shitting herself because she is a rape apologist and
she's an islam apologist. The reason why is because she

(01:46:20):
only won r see by what six hundred votes. Now,
if you look at Jess Phillips, look at our investigation
in Telford. Our investigation in Telford showed in the grooming
gang scandal. There, We've done it. Eighteen months we spent
in that city. We've done a five part series. It
was a one point seven percent Muslim population of Telford.
That's it. That means as three and a half thousand
Muslims say yeah, get rid of the women, get rid
of the under sixteen and get rid of the under seventies.

(01:46:41):
The police investigation identified a thousand rapists, identified eight thousand victims.
The investigation identifyed two hundred rapists. Two hundred Muslim men
were identified by the police in Telford as rapists there's
only a thousand Muslim men in Telford, so that's twenty
percent of the Muslim men in Telford of rapid So
if you take the twenty percent of them as men
and then you take their wives, that's not twenty percent

(01:47:03):
of the Islamic community who have directly been involved in raping. Yeah,
Jess Phillips only gained her seat by six hundred Muslim votes.
If she lost zero point five percent of the Muslim
vote in that area, she's gone. So if she stood
for an inquiry, bear in mind, we know twenty percent
of the Muslims are raping, they're not voting for it.

Speaker 13 (01:47:22):
Do you want to know the most hilarious thing, Tommy,
what she does is she's done anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Yeah, she's gone.

Speaker 13 (01:47:29):
She's finished and all finished. Have you ever seen some
super were streets and they are all finished? Islamists are
going to finish them, not reform.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
Have you ever seen anyone so sick in parliament dying?
I watched them and just think, you actually have don't
have any intelligence? So you're not actually got any intelligence?
How have you even got here? How have you even
got it?

Speaker 13 (01:47:49):
I think that though when I look at virtually every
senior labor politician because the whole background one of them
have ever.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Worked business owners.

Speaker 13 (01:47:58):
They are career politicians, animals, and it's really really horrible, Tommy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
Final thing we do so I don't know if you know.

Speaker 13 (01:48:04):
On my GVU show, I had Greatest Britain Union Jackass,
where every day we would crown the best and the
worst of Britain. And when I went independent, one of
my sort of guarantees with GBN News to free me
from my stage. As I said, I'm taking my favorite
features with me. So we do it on the show now,
but the viewers choose each day, so they nominate three

(01:48:27):
people to be the worst Britain in the World today
Union Jackass, and then on a Friday, we put the
winners from Monday to Thursday head to head and we crown.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
The worst Britain in the world this week.

Speaker 13 (01:48:39):
So what I'm going to do is run you through
our winners from Monday to Thursday and get you to
choose your winner. I'll tell you the reasons why as well,
and then I'll reveal who our viewers have chosen. So
on Monday, it was Nurinda cor and I wanted to
read out her response to you actually on this because
you posted a message we respect and loved the Sikhs

(01:49:01):
with a Sikh woman who had sent you a direct message. Now, Narinda,
I don't know if you saw this, but she reposted
this and said, I may seek woman. We do not
stand by you or the hate you throw at our
Muslim brothers and sisters. Your racist followers wouldn't know the

(01:49:22):
difference if I drew a picture and would happily attack.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
My son or husband in a second. You're a sponsor
to Larinda. She doesn't believe a word. She says. It's
a financial grift. It's a financial grift which has worked
for her very well. But then I feel a bit
sorry for her because she's put herself in that corner
that she's to stick by it. She has to stick
by it and keep digging it. And it's very sad
to see. Actually it's sad to see. But it's also
made her quite hated, and she doesn't believe it. She

(01:49:47):
doesn't believe it. She's a mother, So I don't hold
she's trying to provoke a reaction. I'm she she was
The Monday Tuesday nominee was a woman called bush Rashaikh.

Speaker 13 (01:49:57):
Who absolutely does believe what she's now. This is a
Muslim woman who after the death of James Well. Now
James Well was a close colleague Talk TV died of cancer. Yeah,
and look, I didn't agree with James on everything, but
my god, he was an amazing man.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
He mentored me within minutes Tommy minutes dying.

Speaker 13 (01:50:20):
She went on the biggest tirade because of his support
for Israel and it was revolting what she said about him.
So she was the Tuesday nominee, Wednesday nominee the Home
Secretary Event Cooper for this ludicrous. Have you seen a
seventeen in one out deal with France and you know
that's meant.

Speaker 1 (01:50:40):
To be happy? Yeah, solved it solved it. Cheers of it,
you know. So she's she's another one.

Speaker 13 (01:50:47):
And then Thursday was actually because of you, Piers Morgan
was nominated. And we've got some comments on this from
our brilliant viewers. Tristan El six hs said Peers's attitude
to Tommy and total disregard to the real threat the

(01:51:07):
UK faces with Islamists really makes my blood boil.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
You can have the crown this week, Peers.

Speaker 13 (01:51:13):
Maggie Lucas eight six' eighty five Said peers chasing headlines
instead of seeking the.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
Truth gary three to one three one oh.

Speaker 13 (01:51:21):
Says definitely Megaphone morgan unless he is self identifying As
irish this. Week it's hard to keep up as he
changes his nationality more than he changes his. Underwear the
same goes for his views on global. Politics with, him
everything is a movable. Feast thus he has zero credibility
as a. Journalist But Nicola allen, said the other three
have no, influence But cooper is AN mp and unfortunately has.

(01:51:46):
Influence So, tommy out of those four, nominees who would
be your Worst.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
Britain in the world this?

Speaker 13 (01:51:53):
Week so you've Got Narinda Kore, Bush, Rashaikh, Yvette cooper
Or Peers.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
Morgan i'll have to agree on. That i'll say That
cooper because, LOOK i Think PEERS i don't know what he.
BELIEVES i don't think he. DOES i Think peers believes
whatever he thinks will ride the, way even getting popularity
and cause and cause a stir and getting. Views so
pro Is, rail then he Against, israel pro Black Lives,
matter Against Black Lives, matter pro vaccine against. Action what

(01:52:18):
the fuck does he even? Think?

Speaker 13 (01:52:19):
Exactly where is he It cooper is a true enemy
of the. State, well it's interesting and.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
She sat YouTube, down didn't she and grilled them and
forced a private business to remove my my?

Speaker 13 (01:52:28):
Channel, yes and and and said in The select commis He,
look Here's Tommy, robinson he's showing up and the, RECOMMENDATIONS i,
mean it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
Nuts, well Look i'm. Back you'll be seeing my. Video the,
fact you'll be seeing about a million of us In London.
September i'm sure she will be as far away then'll.
Be they'll all be watching. It you can bet you
if you can bet has a light of what's going
on that.

Speaker 13 (01:52:53):
Day the results are in and they do actually agree with,
You tommy the outspoken. Audience we had tens of thousands
of voes this, week thank you so. Much in fourth
Position Piers morgan with fourteen percent of the. Vote in third,
position Bush Res shaikh with sixteen percent of the, vote
the runner up with twenty four percent of the. Vote
and there in decor but the worst prison in the.

(01:53:16):
World this, Week tommy agrees The home Sectary Evic cooper
with forty Six.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
She's the d of the.

Speaker 13 (01:53:23):
Vote Tommy witch just remind everyone where they can get
the books in the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
Merch get the books at tr Tr books dot co dot.
Uk you can watch any of my documentaries My Veskative
journalism At trfilms dot co dot. Uk and you can
get THE Utk march For september, thirteenth which we've got.
Hats we've got loads of, stuff AND i THINK utk
has become The British. Mega it's going to become one.
Hundred it's going to, spread it's not. Stopping it's gonna get.
Bigger so you're going to do a lot of merch for. This,

(01:53:47):
yeah we're with. MERCH i just started getting these. Done
but we will do. Merch BUT i just think the,
name the branding and the, movement it's going to become
a cultural. Movement may get back a great, again uniting The.
Kingdom it's. Powerful and you get this at you get
this at nation where dot cod nationware dot. Go you,
okay but, yeah, Amazing, trackstan thank you so much for
being here. Today joined it so so good that we

(01:54:07):
finally got to sit. Down do come back, soon and
thank you so much for your company.

Speaker 13 (01:54:11):
Today don't go anywhere, though because we're moving over to
substack now for another fascinating. Conversation, actually you can sign
up at Www Dot outspoken dot, live and we Have
Andrew lowney joining us today for our uncancelled after. Show
he is the man behind the book that has rocked
the royal family this. Week it's called Entitled full of

(01:54:32):
A whole slew of allegations about not Just Prince andrew
but Also Prince harry And Meghan. Munckel so we're going
to continue the conversation over on substack now Www Dot
outspoken dot. Live a fascinating discussion on the way With Andrew.
Lownie cannot wait to speak to him, actually because that
book has really set the cat amongst the. Pigeons have
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