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August 6, 2025 • 96 mins
So this Tommy Robinson character seems to have been through a lot of things since he became a whistleblower…I can relate…time to burn the world again 😈 Apparently false prophets are on the menu 💀

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free yourself and let the doctor see.

Speaker 9 (02:20):
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Speaker 3 (02:23):
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do something?

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and the doctor see that the doctor sees take.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
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Speaker 7 (04:51):
Now they say, good line, you bore one with me.

Speaker 9 (04:55):
Sunday, I say, good line, you boy, go over.

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But the Allison, young guy new ball walled me the
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Speaker 9 (05:08):
The barns of Theresa.

Speaker 12 (05:09):
I was born the woman and there's nothing fucus stop walking.

Speaker 8 (05:12):
And the time to the man you put into the.

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mists and.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
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wa buns of Saul before I talked about like about
band the boxes time.

Speaker 12 (05:25):
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them like you bore with me, tout me. I'll take you,
new boy, go walk what the house go by?

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Speaker 9 (06:11):
Go with me?

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but the hell is on your bye the ball with
me no way?

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and buy my.

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Speaker 7 (06:34):
They pray for my downfall.

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out my dish. Don't think you're.

Speaker 12 (07:11):
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want to down a bone but have side good bye
ball ball with me, But they don't take a nice.

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Second night.

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Speaker 10 (08:11):
Pray for my downfall with the thing was.

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Because I not to come.

Speaker 13 (08:43):
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moments it afraid.

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Speaker 6 (08:49):
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Speaker 13 (08:55):
Is I just.

Speaker 9 (08:58):
Clamber, not a pastor, tell a fell something.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
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maybe have to promise you.

Speaker 13 (09:11):
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the fuck U the lifestyle.

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So we feel your something.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
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must we what know me?

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You d.

Speaker 10 (09:30):
What is it about them? I hit the ground run.

Speaker 9 (09:36):
Not a press.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
I tell them feel sol that I don't see you
after the.

Speaker 12 (09:41):
Week of the past, that he is turning the taking
pathans in the sea and what in the team when
the midnight?

Speaker 6 (09:47):
If not in the course he get then a man,
I said, what the fuck is the lass?

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Speaker 12 (09:53):
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Speaker 3 (09:57):
Don't say the moment's not gonna come run by, I'll
say when in reality, so.

Speaker 9 (10:02):
Society plea, what is a doctor?

Speaker 13 (10:07):
It's a grand mother, not the brat?

Speaker 7 (10:14):
A song?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
What is a duck down?

Speaker 9 (10:19):
I get the ground bright?

Speaker 7 (10:22):
Not a brat?

Speaker 9 (10:25):
I said, I feel something you try to bring my five.

Speaker 10 (10:34):
Water to look out.

Speaker 9 (10:41):
Just make me out to.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
Be the sad.

Speaker 9 (10:47):
You look in that.

Speaker 13 (10:54):
What is a duckdown that the buns the racking down,
So need to help pound you fucking baby sick before
you throwing me sick.

Speaker 9 (11:06):
One is a felt.

Speaker 13 (11:07):
Bound that the found blacking down, So me to help down.

Speaker 9 (11:13):
What's up my fucking time? I let you fuck a
buck by one is an outdown. I didn't found by

(11:44):
an ass try to bread down. I tell a thing
so that one is a doctor. I just a flound
like as.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
Try to bread die.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Yaxley le Tommy Robinson, Stephen.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Robins in the country doesn't believe it free speaker. The
Haddis unit has a kitchen with a funnel cooker, a
chest fridge, freezer, a sandwich maker, an air fryer.

Speaker 14 (12:47):
Those cells are traveler rooms.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Right no other prisoner's ace and seven months I didn't
see another prisoner. I faced a relentless attack. I'm in
the maximum security prison facility that holds some of the
most dangerous men in this country. I played a bloody film.
Most who have risen up through the prominence of the
British state have got dirty hands for thirty years they
allowed systematic and torture of the generation of our kids?

(13:12):
Or who are the people that allowed? Everyone who covered
this up was rewarded.

Speaker 14 (13:16):
People let kids get ed.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Because that's Tommy's opinions.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Noion is his own opinion.

Speaker 14 (13:22):
What do you think it's like in them? What do
you think is like in olden?

Speaker 13 (13:25):
So?

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Are we heading for civil warm.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Wielding law fair as a weapon in order to silence
with they're building an arm?

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Can I ask you a favor?

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Speaker 5 (13:49):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Put a shout on for you?

Speaker 5 (13:53):
It didn't look good? Yeah, Liz, there's the deal. There's
your trig. Trigonometry is the best.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Let's their way at the bottom.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, that's the he's a bloke.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a fit bloke.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
I'll tell you off camera. No, she was great, she
was a she got stitched up. I think she got
come sit down, that's your seat.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Do you want a coffee?

Speaker 5 (14:19):
No, I'm what you got your water?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
All double express? I'm I'm joking, have you actually yeah,
you're right to I'm I haven't stopped.

Speaker 15 (14:27):
I was going to call my dog Tommy Robinson, Tommy Robinson, tummy, Robbinson.
Did you think that was a good I don't know,
and I started giving a tummy, was saying, oh, look,
Tommy Robinson.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
So that's what I do, Tommy Nobinson. That's what some
paddies called me out into terry.

Speaker 8 (14:43):
Are you?

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Are you a paddy? What's a paddy? And Irish person?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Irish? My mom's paddy, My mom's so yeah, my.

Speaker 15 (14:50):
Mom's I I wonder about this. There's a question of
English nurse, and only because you've brought that up and wondering.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
So, so are you?

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Are you English?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm English? Born in England, raising England. My father my
original father, my real dad, who havn't seen since I
was a kid, but he was English. If i'd have
had an Irish dad, maybe things may have turned out different.
But I didn't have an Irish mom. But my mum
loves England, my family love England, and I was born
in England. Dad's English I'm English?

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Am I English?

Speaker 9 (15:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
I was born in England? Yeah, Dad's English?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
You're English?

Speaker 9 (15:25):
And is that it?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I would say, so, aren't you so that.

Speaker 15 (15:28):
There are some people who would say no because my
grandparents are all born in England yep, and parents are
but there my great grandparents sort of Poland.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Give at which point did they stop at that? The
people who say no, how many? How far do they
go back? What are you going to have someone born
here to say like they're saying you're not English? And
then you have children and they have children, they have children,
they have children, they have children with three hundred years
down the line? Are they not being English?

Speaker 5 (15:50):
But well, I agree with you.

Speaker 15 (15:51):
That's That's probably one of the most interesting things about
you is I think people see you as the kind
of example of some sort of ethno nationalists.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I don't believe in the f no nationalism.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, And it's like people don't realize to argue.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
And my argument during the English Defense League days is
are you telling me Ian Wright's not English? I love
Ian Ryan? And then people say, well, no, he can't
be ethnically English. I said, okay, the ethnic the English
but are we going to encourage people? So Ian Wright's
here loves England. I've got mates. Most of my mates
who are who are not white, have all got England toes.
They love England. Served in the Royal Marines, born in England,

(16:27):
parents born in England, they're English. Where do you want
them to go? So I have this and I get
a lot of flak for this from the f NO nationalists. Yeah,
but the f NO nationalists are very large in number
online because they're coming from all around the globe and
they jump on everything and they're very active. They're activists.
Tell the f NO nationalists have their own demonstration on

(16:48):
the street every tenant them. That's reality.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Who are some of these people?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Who are they? Steve Laws is that one of them?
Absolute stick? I'm just saying.

Speaker 9 (17:00):
I saw him.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I saw him interviewing a mixed race girl. Yea was it?
She was white girl and she had a mixed race kid,
and he said, I'd deport your child, That's what he
said to her. Yeah. So I didn't know much about
Steve Laws. I watched that interview and it done my head.
Him to be honest, and he said, they're saying to
the mum I said, I bet you want to have
said that to her dad. I bet you want to
have said that to her dad. He said, in deport

(17:21):
that child. So I just think that or that mindset
is damaging for everyone. There's many people that have come
to this country, embraced it, love it, become part of it.
Absolute patriots. You see them at every one of our demonstrations. Now,
these defo nationalist like Steve Laws, they all hammer me.
There's a there's a common thread. They hate everyone that's
not white pretty much. They blame everything on the Jews

(17:44):
if it's rained and it was the Jews, everything's the Jews,
like literally everything and they then even the mad alliance
that I've seen developed is there in Bedter now with
the Muslims really but yeah, they're all they're all sort
of like sitting down doing talks together. You see Nick
Griffin sitting with five pillars. Five pillars want a caliphate
and Islamic domination. Nick Griffin hates everyone that there's not white,

(18:05):
but yet here they are coming together because they hate
the Jews. They blame everything on the Jews, MASSI immigrations,
the Jews, everything that's that's their whole thing, which they
hate me. They've got unknown as a Zionist or a
race trader, but this is nothing new from the days
of the English Defense League and from the start of
the English Defense leag You have to remember where I'm
from and the worldview I have, or I'm from Luton Town.

(18:29):
Many of the people I love are not white, many
of them. So that's how I've been brought up Luton's
I guess my scene as a youngster. So Luton's football
hooligan element is one of the most diverse groups of
football lads there is in the country. So back in
the seventies or the eighties, a lot of the real
hardcore far right element clubs which have gone now, but

(18:49):
when they were far right ideology behind certain football who
the elements their biggest day out would be Luton because
they knew they'd be meeting a multicultural bunch of lads
who were there together. And that's what I've grown up.
The lads I grew up aspiring to or looking up
to in the football scene were dreadlock rasterlotes.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Do you feel very misrepresented them?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I know that misrepresentation is very It's like an oiled machine.
And that's not just against me. If you started talking
about Islamic immigration, or if you start talking about some
of these things, you'd be called far right as well.
It does happen, Okay, yeah, it doesn't really matter. You
can have a thousand black people on the demonstration. Yeah, together,

(19:28):
they'd be called white supremacists. We have Daniel Rosco, one
of our lads. He's called the black white supremacists. It's like, really,
what is going on here? So but that sort of
that labeling was to take away any credibility, to make
you toxics and no one would sit down with you.
It's not really worked, but it did work for many years.

(19:48):
Many people would whisper to me or send me direct messages.
I have many celebrities who would contact me over the years.
I agree of everything you're saying, but we're all scared.
They had the entire population scared to speak openly and honestly,
but well and truly burst in right now. There's something
massive is happening right now.

Speaker 15 (20:03):
Do you think your image has been reallyhability Because I've
even spoken to people who are similar to what you're saying,
Some secret fans of this show.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
They couldn't admit to anyone that they watch it.

Speaker 15 (20:12):
But people who are quite prominent at the BBC and
places like that, like I'm talking household celebrity people, and
I've mentioned you and they've gone, well, he's not He's
not a racist, though, is he?

Speaker 5 (20:21):
And years ago they would have said you were.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, yeah, I think that John's quite mad. Is My
Rhetoric's never changed. It's never changed once. I haven't changed,
So I don't want people to pretend I've had some
sort of I've changed my rhetoric. There's a leaflet I
made in two thousand and four and it made front
page my local newspaper. I was twenty an organized a

(20:44):
demonstration called band Luton Taliban and I dug this leaflet out.
So I went into Luton Library and I went back
for all the dates. I'm thinking, I'm finding this leaflet
when I was doing my presentation at Oxford University twenty fifteen.
Oxford University. Remember I've led the English Defense League for
four years. Every opportunity I got like this to sit
down on any new show, I just got attacked. And

(21:04):
I've come off of it thinking I didn't even get
to talk about the issues. And I was usually getting
attacked because of the stupid behavior maybe of some people
at an English Defense League demonstration, which was justified how
negative their behavior was. So the person was justified and
asking me the questions, but I never really got to
talk about what was going on, so I found a
lot of it was a waste of time.

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Speaker 1 (22:24):
So I went back through and I dug the leaf lout.
Now anyone can do this. Watch my Oxford Union presentation.
In that leaflet, I said, whites and blacks are being
religiously and racially targeted in Loum. Yeah, gangs are using
heroin as a chemical weapon against our youth, for feelick gangs.

Speaker 14 (22:42):
This is what's now known as grooming. This was two
thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I said that they're enticing drug in our youth, on
drugs and then passing them around.

Speaker 14 (22:50):
I said, the police know what's happening.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
We know every shot. I know the shops that fronts
for heroin illuine. We know who the gang are. I
named them in the leaflet, probably be a stupid idea
at the time, because it brought me so much trouble.

Speaker 14 (23:00):
I named the gang in leaflet.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Three years later, national newspapers then run a story on
the gang. Three years later, the Daily Mirror run a
story naming the Gambino gang is the Pakistani very original
and silly Mugs called himself after an Italian mob, but
the Pakistani gang was called the Gambinos. There are one
hundred strong gang in Lutin that controlled drugs, pimping young girls, prostitution, heroin.

(23:23):
They control it all. Yeah, that's and I named them
in two thousand and four two thousand and seven national stories,
saying how the Gambino street gang are funding terrorism and
that they're using heroin as a chemical ghad to destroy
our communities. It's like I've watched this. So most people think,
remember when I started talking about this in two thousand

(23:44):
and nine, which was when I've become prominent through the
English Defense League, I was just talking about things I've
seen my whole life. Unfortunately, now the British public have
caught up. They're realizing Jesus Man like everything they were
saying was true. So and in that leaflet that I
wrote that was in the paper, I said, we're not
blaming all Muslims for this. I'm not. In my Oxford
Union presentation, I went through sixty eight attacks against non

(24:07):
Muslims homes in the Muslim community of Louham in the
Bury Park area. Old I showed the Howard So were
eighty eight years old. They were an old white couple
who live in their boardered up home. They don't bother
fixing the windows anymore, Yeah, because the windows just get
smashed again. Then there was a West Indian couple. The
West Indian lady an old school when I know her
son another family. She's passed away now last year, but

(24:29):
I knew that family. Her house was getting attacked. And
the point I'm made in the Oxford's presentation was do
you know who it was that helped them in when
their house was under attack? It was Muslims.

Speaker 14 (24:41):
Some Muslims in the community tried to help them.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
That doesn't change the fact that their houses will being
bombarded by other sections of the Islamic community who wanted
them out of there because they're not Muslim. There are problems,
but you can't have the conversation. Na One's allowed us
to have these conversations, the sexual exploitation, the grooming, because
I rose to prominence discussing that. That is the reason
that I faced such an nonsought, such so many attacks,

(25:04):
so much lawfare, so much demonization, so much slandering. Literally
the media was used as a weapon by the state
and the reason the state used the media and used
the judiciary as their weapons, which is the weapons of
a totalitarian state, to destroy me, to defame me, to
imprison me, and to break me was because most who
have risen up through the prominence of the British state

(25:26):
have got dirty hands in this issue. When you understand
that for thirty years they allowed systematic and torture of
a generation of our kids, well, who were the people
that allowed it? So let's look at just Roberin police force.
It Robin was the most prominent police force where they
the head police officer knew one percent. It's proven he
knew goals being taken there being they made a decision

(25:48):
not to do anything for community tensions.

Speaker 14 (25:51):
They made that decision.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's all come out in the Roderin scandal, in the
Roderin report. It's no longer what Tommy Robinson's saying, it's
now government reports. Where is that police officer now he's
heading counter terrorism. On the thirteenth of October, I face
counter I faced terrorism chargers with no judge again. I'm
bound back to prison on the thirteenthocts Sober, probably because
I have no jeurry. There's no jewelry. I've never had

(26:12):
a jury in any of my prosecutions, So when you
look at all these people, and it may become obvious
now to people, but you have to understand. When I
started the English Defense League, in the first three months
I had in the first six months, I had three
dawn rates. Previous ten years before that in my life,
I had no interaction with the police. All of a sudden,
I'm holding protests. I've got police coming in my house

(26:34):
or machine guns. They put me on bail conditions. They
froze my assets, froze my bank accounts, closed my companies,
arrested my pregnant wife. She was six months pregnant. They
come in and nicked my wife. They sat her down
for six hours, three times in interviews. All of this
was shut it down. That's what this was, And now
it becomes evident I actually I actually put in a

(26:54):
complaint so when they arrested me. Just this going back,
because people need to when we're doing the inquiry is
now the rape gang inquiries. Now you need to inquire
what the police done. You need to inquire what they've
done to people. Not just me, many whistleblowers like me,
Sammy Woodhouse. What did she face? What did all of
these brave people who decided to stand up and talk,
What did they face? What persecution did they face? Some

(27:15):
targeting they face? So that first time at Looton Airport.
I traveled to loot Airport. I got to Looton Airport.
I was going to Scotland. We'd had the English events
that he running for six months. We'd had a protest
planned in Yorkshire about the brooming scandal. I get to
Looton Airport. I'm arrested by a Special Brunch and I'm like,
Special Brunch, you're under rest. They take me down to

(27:37):
the police station. We're now raiding properties linked to you.
I said, what you've maiding properties linked to me for?
They arrested me for criminal damage.

Speaker 14 (27:44):
You see you see that is that door?

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Is that little silver thing?

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, that was damaged in a hotel room that they
said I stayed in. I'm not joking.

Speaker 14 (27:52):
I've got all the I've got all the black and
white evidences.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah that was damaged thirty pounds criminal damage. They went
into my mum's house and my and my children's house
with machine guns. Yeah, they went into the family's house.
They swartted both houses at the same time. Whilst I'm
sat at the police station, I'm looking thinking for a
thirty pound criminal damage. Then they get me into interview
about this criminal damage. When it comes to bailing me
after ten hours when they went into the house. When

(28:17):
I got out, my wife said, one police officer spent
eight hours at our files, our paper files. We had
files for properties because at the time, at that time
I had two successful companies and seven properties. Yeah. They
one police officer because their warren didn't allow them to
take paperwork. It only allowed them to take electrical devices
because what they said they were looking for was proof

(28:39):
that I booked the hotel room. Yeah, so they could
take the computers, take the phones. It was all intelligence based.

Speaker 14 (28:43):
They were trying to shut us down here.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
And when they bailed me, they bailed me not allowed
to send an email, not allowed to be in a
group of two or more English devents and supporters. My
bail date was the exact time and exact day I
was due to hold a rally against Groomy. Yeah. So
I then when I got out, I put in a
complaint through the IPCC, the Independent Police Complaints Commission, saying

(29:06):
I believe I made six allegations. I believe this has
been politically motivated. You've done this to stop my activism
on the street as a protest group. You've done this
to stop me talking at a demonstration. You've done this.
I made all these allegations. They just a minimal in
the complaint that went through a year later. I've got
all the black and white they suggest we accept that,
we accept that, we accept that we're sending our police
officers on training courses. But this is now part of

(29:29):
the biggest scandal this country scene because what this was
was the police being used and you can see why,
and you know where the police officers come and arrested
me from there on inly mind, I'm Atluton Airport.

Speaker 14 (29:39):
Thirty police officers that raid in my house come from Yorkshire.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
They come from the exact area that was the biggest
cover up of this scandal at the time. So that
when I look through now and I'll get pretty upset
about it because I think you arrested my pregnant wife.
And when the police come in and they were arrested
in then and six six weeks after they'd come in
for this offense, Yeah, boom, they come back through the door,
and I'm in the house. We had to move. My

(30:03):
wife had so many murders at this time. They come
back through where they've gone. When one officer had wrote
down all the files, they come in on tax. They
come in and done us on tax. They rested me,
rested his wife. I've got not guilty.

Speaker 15 (30:14):
Do you think there's an extent to which they that
if you sounded like Douglas Murray, if you spoke like
Douglas Murray, that they might not have targeted.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Used so much.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Anyone who sounded like Douglas Murray just didn't open their
mouths about this. Unfortunately, what Douglas did, No, Douglas did
once it come, once it knew about it, once he
knew about Douglas. Did I think Douglas one probably the
best voices in the country on these issues? Or the Braves.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Have you met them?

Speaker 13 (30:38):
No?

Speaker 15 (30:39):
No, But I think a lot of people say about
you is it's sort of a classiest thing.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Some people think it's the classest thing, and it was.
I don't think it would have mattered for them. They
were in full on cover up mode. So any whistleblower,
I remember, we probably don't you know my name. Everyone
knows what I've gone through. There's probably lots of people
who tried to whistle blow who were silenced NDA's and
non disclosure agreements, financially scared, terrified, made to.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Sharp Maggie Oliver.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
There's probably so many Maggie Oliver's that we don't know about. Yeah, yeah,
So many people who are in these councils might have
been in social services who tried at some point to
talk and they would have just got beaten down, shut
down and kicked out their jobs because the cover up.
People need to understand the scale of the cover up.
Where are these people now? How embedded in the labor
government was this? If we look if you look at Rochdale,

(31:29):
I went to Rochdale, So Rochdale there was a grooming
scandal and all these rapes. Counselor Hassain, the Muslim labor
counselor went to court and gave a character reference for
the man who one hundred kids.

Speaker 14 (31:42):
He went to court.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
The ex mayor of Bolton went to the same court
case and gave a character reference. Did that labor councilor
lose his job? No, he's been excelled through the Labour
Party in Oldham where the rapes were going on. The
man the labor counts, the labor representative whose job it
was to stop the grooming, is now in jail for
being one of the broomers in Rotherham. The labor counselor
Jaglia I think he was the uncle of Sammy Woodhouse's

(32:07):
pers who got the biggest sentence in the country. He
used to so when the girls were missing for three days,
the labor councilor would facilitate returning the children. The police
wouldn't go on to rest them. The police would meet
with him and he'd get the kids back after three
or four days and give them back. It's like, what
is going on? But people need to understand which I
don't think they understand the true scale of this problem

(32:29):
and the true scale of the cover up. For example, Manchester,
there was a young girl, was it Victoria, so you
have to excuse me. She was fifteen years old injected
with heroin. They used to let the Pakistani Muslim man
I think he was about sixty years old come into
the children's home. So he was in there. She got
injected with her and she died. Police launched an investigation

(32:49):
at that point massive investigation. This has gone back years before.
It's all out there. They identified one hundred and men,
they arrested them, the court cases ready to go to court,
the CPS caps the whole case, just got rid of it.
The police officer in charge of collapse in it won
the highest award from our royal family about six months later.

Speaker 14 (33:09):
Everyone who covered this up was rewarded.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
And this isn't just We're not talking about one city here,
We're talking about every single city. A mass conspiracy, a
coordinated attack, coordinated effort to silence, to keep this underground
and keep it hidden. And when you think about it, Andrew,
when you say it out loud, children five kids were
murdered in Telford. Five are dead and there was no

(33:34):
mass scandal. Yeah, that's just in Telford, just in a
small town of Telford. Telford has a one point seven
centers in population in Telford. The police identified a thousand
victims and they identified the two hundred in Telford.

Speaker 14 (33:47):
Yeah, I focused on Telford.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I've done a five part documentary series called The Britain.
I went to Telford, I sat down with survivors and
I spent twelve to eighteen months knowing their lives inside
it like a police style investigation. I sat the girl
down for three hours, four hours, one time, two times,
three time, and then we'd go back and we'd take
what they've said. We're put it into transcripts and we
build a database. That's what we've done. Yeah, and just

(34:12):
remember there's a thousand victims out of probably sixteen or
eighteen girls. I got two hundred and sixty four names
of this. The police identify two hundred. I got two
hundred and sixty four. The independent inquiry, which wasn't statutory powered,
the independent inquiry that went on Telford identified three hundred. Now,
if you take the Muslim population, this is where anyone
listened to this, if you want to understand how the

(34:34):
scale of this problem. Yeah, there's about three and a
half thousand Muslims in Telford. Get rid of the women,
get rid of the under sixteens, get rid of over
sixties or seventy. So let's get the men that fit
into the criteria being involved in the gangs. There's one
thousand men. Well, the police identify two hundred, that's twenty percent.

(34:54):
We identify t one hundred and sixty four, The independent
identify three overs. Now we identify t one hundred sixty four.
We only spoke to eight engl there's a thousand girls.
So how many men in that community will how many
we know it's twenty to thirty percent just in that community.
Just in Telford.

Speaker 14 (35:09):
Look at Rotherham. Everyone's heard of Rodham?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, why have we heard of Rotherham? Why have we
heard of Telford? Or Rotherham only has a three point
seven cents in population? There's none there. What do you
think it's like in Luton where there's fifty percent? What
do you think is like in Oldham? And when we
look at Oldham? Do you know this whole scandal blew up?
I'm going on the ramp, but do you know this
whole scandal blew up when I was in jail recently
and it blew up because Elon Musk shared because the

(35:32):
Labor government shut down the inquiry. So people understand what
happened in Oldham goes All the families have come together
and they begged the council for an inquiry five times.

Speaker 14 (35:44):
The Labor Council shut down an inquiry.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
So what you realize is when they've become such an
Islamic domination in the town, there's no chance to the inquiry,
so they shut it down. Then independent councilors stood and
there was a backlash because people were standing to get
an inquiry. So then there's then they have the local
elections and people get in who have got in off
the ticket.

Speaker 14 (36:04):
Of having an inquiry.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
So then now we've got now we've got Olden Council
going to the Labor government saying right, we want an inquiry,
and then Jess Binet shuts it down again.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
Did you see me on LBC the other day.

Speaker 13 (36:16):
No.

Speaker 15 (36:17):
I was on and it was the strangest thing there.
Callers call him the questions and we've all got to
answer them. You know, there's other policies. And there was
one question are the grooming gangs? And everyone said they're like, oh,
that what the police did was wrong because they were equivocating,
you know, these other these sort of lefties, they shouldn't
equivocate on that is so important and blah blah blah.
But let's remember that Andrew Tates blah blah blah blah
blah and the far right. And I said, you've just

(36:38):
done exactly what you said everyone else is doing. It
must be it's like a psychological illness almost again.

Speaker 9 (36:43):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
And Joe Barge me if you had him, had him,
I think he's one of the most fearless men if
you look. I know what it's like to talk about
these issues from me in Newton or not. What the
gangs are like.

Speaker 14 (36:56):
I know how prominent they are. I know how it's
a Pakistani mafia.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, to mafia, the gold way to the top, the
level of violence they're willing to use, the target in
the harassment. So the same with Sammy Woodhows when I
look at her and I think Jesus about Sammy was
a survivor at Rotherham who come and challenged the gangs,
who took who was the lead person who with along
with Andrew Norfolk, I think he was a coward because
he knew what was going on. Andrew Northfolks won all

(37:20):
the awards for this year. He knew what was going
on his own words, he knew what was going on
for years, but it was too much of a tinder
box for the far right. Yeah, so he say that
out loud. Andrew Norfolk let kids get because he was
too well, that's what I.

Speaker 14 (37:35):
Know, but he didn't report.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
That's Tommy's opinion.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's his own opinion his I'll show the recording of
him saying it. What he says is, he goes, look,
I knew if I'd known for years that these gangs
were active, and I knew they were targeting young white girls.

Speaker 14 (37:48):
He goes, but I was too scared to talk about it. Yeah,
he cowed, he coward.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Just got to be careful to because someone you're going
back to prison.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
No, that's it. Well, the truth is the truth if
it Landry and Joe at Landry and Joie.

Speaker 14 (37:59):
But he Andrew Norfolk.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
So when he says he dealt with it when he
saw the emergence of the English Defense League, he goes,
and I decided, like he's a morally high guy. I
decided I needed to take it back from these far
right hooligans. I said, the problem is they weren't far
out joligans. They're english Men, and they're english Men who
have seen their daughters. Many of those people you're calling
far right huligans were family members of those kids who

(38:24):
have been portrayed.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
So that's why people don't realize. I agree with you
with that.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I want to.

Speaker 15 (38:27):
I want to we'll get back to this, but I
want to you've just come out of prison again. I
want to I want to know a bit about that,
because I've just had Sam sam Worth on. You know,
the ex prison guard talks about he was very interested
in as well, and I think he's I don't know
what he said about you. Actually he was interested in
how they treated you and things like that. Last time
I saw you, we were out in Alacante.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
And you were losing your mind.

Speaker 15 (38:48):
No, well, you having a great time when I was there,
and then you said that previously, being in solitary, you
needed that. But this time you come out looking like
you're in castaway or something. You know, you look it
looked like it.

Speaker 14 (39:00):
Yeah, sound needed it.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
So say, for example, this time I got into solitary,
I got sentenced. I've got eighteen months. I consciously made
a decision to play a film. I knew what I
was doing. I know exactly what I was doing. Yeah,
it took me two years to build to that point. Obviously,
anyone who's followed the story, I have to be very
this is free speech. Yeah, I can't actually speak openly

(39:22):
about this because I will end up straight back in prison.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Yeah, we don't want that.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I for the rest of my life. Haven't have conditions
that prevent me telling the truth. Let's put it like that. Yeah,
Unfortunately for the establishment, one hundred and sixty seven million
people watched that film, so the truth's out there. People
now know, and Joe that it acted as a gateway
for many people. So people have a view of me

(39:46):
if they sit and watch my documentaries. You can watch
all of my films and documentaries at trfilms dot co
dot UK.

Speaker 14 (39:52):
I had emails of people saying I never liked you.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
I've got twenty thousand birthday cards on my birthday. When
I was in prison, I had emails coming in and
I realized straight away that as far as my cause goes,
you have to remember I've done this for fifteen years. Yeah,
I've been in jail multiple times. I faced the raids,
the attacks, the terrorism threats, as men got thirty years
for planning to blow us up and kill us. I've

(40:17):
faced all of that, and I've gone through all of
that and we're at a different place now where back
those during those years, the public didn't want to listen,
and they weren't willing to listen, and they weren't ready
to listen. And right now where we're at, the country's ready,
the country is brewing, the public there is a revolution
coming in Britain, and not just Britain, the whole of Europe.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
But how was it for you?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
It was I was scared to go in. I was
scared when I put the film out. I then played
the film when you come and met me in Spain.
But once I actually got back to the UK and
got into prison, I was in Woodhill, I was putting,
slaunching in finnement. There's sixteen cells here, sixteen cells here.
This is the segregation unit of the prison. The segregation

(41:01):
unit of a prison is called the block in prisoners terms.
The block is where you go if you stab someone
in jail. Say, for example, when I was in jail,
there was a stab in in the neck of a
prison officer. I don't know if you saw that on
the noose, yeah, I think so. Yeah, Well the man
who stabbed in the punishment for that is you get
put down the segregation unit. So when they brought me in,
they cleared sixteen cells. So on one side is sixteen cells.

(41:25):
On the other side of sixteen cells, So they cleared
it all. So then I got put in the cell,
just on my own.

Speaker 15 (41:30):
It's just an ordinary cell. I thought you've got given
a bigger kind of thing or no.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
No, prison cells have got facilities, little wardrobe, different things.
The segregation unit has nothing in the cell because you
can't because people who go there break up, set fires,
burn flood smash every think that's why they're taken there.
They're just smashing things up, setting fires. So it's a
basic cell. They call it a suicide cell, so there's

(41:54):
nothing in there that you could manage to kill yourself with,
whereas normal cells there are.

Speaker 9 (41:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
So I got taken there, and then after a few
weeks I felt happy, not happy, glad it was over,
as in the sense of this has been hanging over
me for three years. So you try to live your life,
which I'm trying to do again. Now I'm I'm facing
prison again thirteen October. Then I've got another trial in
October twenty twenty six. Now for the Daily Mail journalists,

(42:21):
I can get onto that, it's insane. It's absolutely insane,
the hypocrisy and what they do. But I went to jail,
I got put in solitary, but I was panicked the
whole time because I remember in twenty and eighteen when
I got solitary confinement, I describe it as I went
into prison one person and come out another. And I
never realized it at the time, but when I come
out after three and a half months of solitary, I

(42:43):
was wrecked for years. So in my heads when I'm
in this time, I'm thinking, I know what, three and
a half months are solitary done? They've just get me
eighteen months. I've got nine months of solitary here. Yeah,
So with a psychologist. So I had a meet in
the first week with a prison psychologist and I asked her,
I said, you're the expert here. What's nine months of
stortchal confinement going to do to me? She says, it's

(43:03):
going to be devastating to you. I said, how are
you doing it? The hell are you doing this? I've
breached a civil offense, not a criminal offense. I wasn't
a criminal.

Speaker 14 (43:11):
It's a civil offense.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah. Anyone who gets done for civil offenses goes straight
to an open prison where they go home.

Speaker 15 (43:18):
Do they think of you as that's an interesting point,
you says a civil offense not a criminal offense.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Is this therapist?

Speaker 9 (43:24):
How is she with you.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Is she scared of you?

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Does she think does she have to have you? Like
not standing next to a room and you're allowing a
room alone with her?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
No, I was allowed. No, So most prisoners you don't have.
But my situation, they knew what I was. They know
I wasn't a risk. In fact that all of their
reports said there is no risk from him. He's a
model prisoner. Yeah, he could to hold you in these conditions.
It's called the mandelible. Yeah, so google it. It's called
the mandelible. You're only allowed to be held in stortcal
confinement for fourteen days because after fourteen days it starts

(43:51):
having a detrimental negive effect on your mental health.

Speaker 14 (43:53):
Now what they had to do.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
The prison can authorize up to forty two days of
stortch confinement. Yeah, forty two days. It goes to the labor,
it goes to the government. So Shabin in my mood
is it So every forty two days I had to
fill out because you have your opportunity to speak, So
every forty two days i'd speak, I'd write down saying
this is insane. Yeah, I've been in there for and
after about six weeks I started then noticing the difference

(44:18):
in myself, which then I'm panicking about. My main thing
was I was alway panicking because and then it sounds weird.
I was panicking about everything. But that's because you sat
in a self on your own, spending every minute of
every day on your own, without a letout or anyone
to see. I went into Woodhill Prison and I left
Woodhill Prison. I spent seven months. I didn't see see

(44:40):
another prison. I didn't speak to anyone.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
Would you would you have rather been in the mat?

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Just in the first week, I said I'd rather fight
every day. So I had to fill out and said
I would rather fight every day than have you break
my mind. I'll physically fight every day.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
Yeah, you might have been killed.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
I might have been killed, but I might not have
been killed. That's I shouldn't be. When I had with
the government, so you have a meeting, I said, why
have you brought me here? This has a forty percent
Muslim population. Fifty percent of people in this prison of murderers.
I'm in the maximum security prison facility that holds some
of the most dangerous men in this country.

Speaker 14 (45:13):
I played a bloody film.

Speaker 15 (45:16):
I played a film they should have found you if
they had to put you in prison, which they shouldn't
have done for similar fans. They should have found you
to prison with the lowest Muslim population.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Were I said, I found one Brittannion house. My solicit
has found one Brittannion house has forty prisoners. It's an
open prison. There's not one single Muslim there. Why can't
you send me there?

Speaker 14 (45:33):
Do they used?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
And I'll tell you what they use? And I've got
the paperwork for this because I'm at some point I'm
going to do a follow up. I come out of
prison and as I said, my head was wrecked, but
i need to do a follow up because I've got
what the prison usedes justification to hold hold me in
maximum security. They said that I faced further charges for
breaching quarters. I don't, it's made up. So when I
got there, I rang this list. I said, are they are?

Speaker 9 (45:55):
They?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Am I getting done for more charges? So my solicit
of contact the Metropolan police forces. Does he face these charges?
They contacted back said no, he doesn't face those charges.
He faces no further charges. So then Nicola Marfley, who's
the governor of the prison, when it got to my appeal,
she put a statement into the court that I'll do
face these charges.

Speaker 14 (46:14):
It's like, I don't face those charges.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
That's mad.

Speaker 14 (46:16):
So to justify and do you know what happened? Nickola Marthley.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
The day after she gives his statement to the court,
she gets given She leaves the prison service, gets a
job in the IPCC on a fifty percent pay roise.
She left the day after my court case. She got
the golden handshake. But they've done that. I know what
they know. They know, which is what I said, is
they knew what they were doing. Anyone would know if

(46:39):
you stick him in a room for seven months, you're
going to mess with his head.

Speaker 14 (46:42):
And I come out and it did mess with my head.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Bloody hell. Did you worry about your food being tampered with?
Things like that?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I didn't eat their food. The difference in this one
to last one, which I just be honest, is when
I was in in twenty eighteen, I had twelve pound
fifty to spend a week. Yeah, because while I was
a civil prison, they didn't give me the civil prison
of money.

Speaker 14 (46:58):
This time I had sixty.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Pound a week. This span of week was enough for
me to buy five into tune our five tint so
sardines five into macpol.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
So I could buy enough and you cook for yourself.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
No, you couldn't cook.

Speaker 9 (47:08):
This is the other. No.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
So when I landed in there, I'm in solitary environement,
I mean, and I have a meeting once a week,
once every two weeks.

Speaker 14 (47:15):
It's called a good.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Boarder with the governor, mental health, psychology. They all have
to meet you because of the risk to you. Yeah,
for the they have to justify what they're doing. So
every morning they would take me from my cell because
they had to let me out of myself for exercise.
So but they you got sixteen cels here, sixteen cells here.
They couldn't put me on the exercise yard here because

(47:36):
all the Muslims were there. Yeah, so they could. They
didn't want any Their goal was for no one to
see me, yeah, they said, So to get me from
a over here, which it was like a I had
the best opportunity as far as the journalist goes, to
see the prison system and to see the facilities in
the way they hold other prisons. So I got taken
to a thing called the separation center. The separation center,

(47:59):
do you remember back ten years ago, maybe they built
prisons within prisons for the jadadists.

Speaker 14 (48:04):
So the most extreme Muslims get taken off the wings.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Because they're radicalizing and converting, and they get put on
separation centers. So, but the separation center in wood Hill,
which is sixteen cells, was empty when I was in there,
so I had sixteen cells in it, bearing in mine
prisons are full. Yeah, I had sixteen cells that they
could use. Then i'd get mark walked every morning, so
my door would open at half eight. They'd walk me
over to another unit, which is a prison within the prison,

(48:31):
so it's the biggest maximum security facility. They'd open me
up on a wing there and they'd put me in there.
But first of all, I'd go outside for thirty minutes.
I'd walk around. It sounds weird. I'd walk around for
thirty minutes. I'd do some chin ups, do some dips
because there was a little bar out out in the yards,
but I wouldn't see anyone, so I'd just walk around
and it was a big empty space. Then they'd put
me into the unit, which is the separation center. I

(48:53):
weren't allowed in the cells, but I've got to see
the cells. Those cells are travel lodge rooms for the jahannis. Yeah,
I mean they've got built in mirrors on the fucking wall.
I didn't see a mirror, so when I come out,
when I come out, it didn't matter to me what
I look like because I warn't looking at myself. Yeah,
but in these cells they've got built in, they've got wardrobes,
they've got everything.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
What Axil Rudy Cabaranna the kettle.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, yeah, they all do. Yeah, they all do, but
actual Rudy Cabana. When I landed in Belmarsh for the
first week and I was put on, I was put
on a thing called the Contingency Suite, which was built
for Ian hunty.

Speaker 14 (49:25):
It's again a prison within the prison, so you don't
see anyone.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
When I went out on the yards walking and this
for me, the experience I've just landed in jail. I
went out onto an exercise yard, which is a courtyard
with all and its healthcare, so all the nurses are
above and as I went out for the first day
and walked around at every window with the nurses and
we love you Tommy, well done so and I knew

(49:48):
straight and do you know where acxled Rudy Planner was
He was in that cell there.

Speaker 14 (49:51):
Do you know what Axl Rudy Carrana was doing. He was,
he was a cleaner.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
He went on soldier confinement. He hasn't spent a day
on soldier confinement. He had a cleaner and a job
on the wig. They none of them. So Samon Abberde's
brother again, I'll get to this. So I go in there,
I get moved from Belmarsh anyway, I know actual rule
quians there. In fact, they gave the Secretary of State
past a law which I've got the paper for. Dan
wouldn't come in to see me in jail, And I

(50:15):
told Dan, wudn't. Actually Rudley Qubana was in the cell above.
He's a cleaner on the wing in Bellmash. He ain't
on solitary. I know that because the staff told me.
The nurses told me he's in that room there. He
has that they have to deal with him every day
walking around the unit. Yeah, so I said all that.
Then the next day that they brought in NDA's that
anyone who come to see me had to sign an agreement.
That was because of that that got out of the jail.

(50:37):
Dan report that Damn Dan Woulden reported it. The next
day they come in and give me a Secretary of
State letter from the Secretary of State.

Speaker 14 (50:43):
Who's that is that? A VT cooper from Secretary of State?
That nothing. If I spoke the word of Southport, the
word of.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Actually Rugabana, my phone would be cut off.

Speaker 14 (50:52):
And he visits. So my visit is everything was monitored,
every second of what I said.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
From the minute I got in there, my phone was
on live monitor calling, so so everyone else's phone. From
six in the morning until nine o'clock at night. Mine
was on for half hour and then half hour again.
And when it's on for half hour, they're sitting and
sitting listening. It's like, I'm not a terrorist.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
What about did you get a priest visiting you?

Speaker 9 (51:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I had. I had a priest. I won't say his name.
I don't put him in the position. But he was brilliant.
He was brilliant and the church he was I'd say
he's doing a great job because sometimes the priest are
someho out of touch. He wasn't out of touch. He's
an Asian lad. He was a brilliant lad.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Wow, Yeah, he was brilliant. What about because there's mums
that come.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
To them mum.

Speaker 13 (51:35):
Come.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
The first week I was in there and he said, Tommy.
He opened up the thing he said, Tommy, im Ran
sends his love. I said him round and then he
suggests is he in there? So one of my best
one of my mates from school, he got twenty four
years and I was talking to him before this when
he was in another prison. So I was speaking to
him just two years, three years ago. He's then in
Woodhill and I was like, in Ron's here and he goes, yeah,

(51:57):
send your love. He said he loves you. I said,
fuck can and so then I put an application. So
did so we both put in applications to see each other.
That the prison would't allow it. So when I had
my next meeting, I said, right, I've got there's someone
I can socialize with. Can you bring him here?

Speaker 14 (52:11):
So I've got someone I can speak to.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
He's my friend. They said, who's your friend? I said,
give his name. They're looking like that, thinking what I said.
We're very good friends as kids. Yeah, I said, and
but he had a good job in there as well.
But they woudn't allow it. They weren't allowed it. But
back to just souther and clear. So people understand what's
going on with the prison within the prison the separation center.

Speaker 14 (52:31):
So I'm taking there and I'm putting a room.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Just like this year, and it's got an ex sise
bike and a running machine, which was great for me. Yeah,
it was great because I would non stop beast myself
for an hour and a half. Then they'd take me
out there and lock me in a shower.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Your arms are massive, and then they put me back in.

Speaker 14 (52:48):
I didn't have weights.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I wish I had weights. That's just my shirt and kebabs,
but they they put me in. So I'd spend those
couple of hours on that unit on my own, and
then I get put back in my cell by half
eleven and then I get opened up the next morning.
But when this is going on, I spent five months
doing this routine and routines everything for me, I need routine.
I spent five months doing exactly the same things, exactly

(53:11):
the same time, reading at the same time, trying to
keep myself sane. And then Salmon Abodee's brother does a
terrorist attack up in Franklin prison and then I find
out because the staff, many and staff are on deployment,
so forty staff from North and jails are in Woodhill
because they can't staff it, so they've got them all
up there and it was their friends that were dealing

(53:31):
with Salmon Abode at that time when that attack happened.
There's seven Muslims in the separation centership. Again, none of
them are on social confinement. They've got a pool table.
They've got pool table, they've got table tennis, they've got
table football, and they've got a kitchen.

Speaker 14 (53:47):
Right now, other prisoner's have this, do you had?

Speaker 1 (53:49):
This unit has a kitchen with a full on cooker,
a chest, fridge, freezer, a toaster, a sandwich maker, an
air fryer.

Speaker 14 (53:58):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
As I'm having my meetings when I'm taking to this unit,
I'm saying, please, can't just cook my own food? Why
can't I use that kitchen? If you're taking me there
every morning? No, you're not allowed to use the kitchen.

Speaker 9 (54:09):
Why not?

Speaker 5 (54:09):
So how are you eating these tins of tuner? Just
everything was cold for it, just out of a ting
a tin.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
But but then then to Salmon Aberde's brother include one
of the ones included with him was Angen Chowdry. So
the seven which has never come out in the media,
and they believe it was Angen Chowdry ordered it because
the staff told me, because they took seven of them.
So the next day, I've got this gym every day, yeah,
which is keeping me saying Salmon Aberdeen is not do
an attack. The next day they transfer all those seven

(54:39):
straight from Franklin because the staff won't deal with them.
They were chasing when he was stabbing the woman. He's
chasing around the pool table and the other Muslims, the
other seven there they took. The staff say isolated the staff,
can you let me in this room? Can you do this?
And as they're doing that, he's then gone for them,
so they're limited in numbers. It's all planned. It's horrible.

Speaker 14 (54:57):
It's all planned. That's not the first time he's done it.
Someon his brother.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
He's already done it, and he done He collected his butter.
This is the insanity if this prison system. Yeah, he
collected his but because you get about four or five
butters a day given shop and he in his in
his little kitchen that only the Jahadis have got. He
cooked up all the butter and that's what he's thrown
on her. That's where he's thrown on them acid to
burn them. Yeah he's throwing this thinking, well, I can't cook.

(55:23):
I don't have cooking facilities. Yea, most prisoners, ordinary prisoners
have on a wing, there's a little kitchen area like
a little thing like that where they share a little
fridge and they share. They don't have what these jahades
have got. So the best facilities are given for the
worst people, and then they give them all. The next day,
the prison come and see me and said, yeah, you
got no gym anymore. I'm not what, Well, they've just

(55:46):
bought all the Jahadis to the separation center. You can't
use the separation center. Say so what am I backgund
to baggs size? So then I lost ever for thinking.
So I've lost their fingers and Jahadis have got it all.
And then so then look when I went to court,
they said I had a job. They just slid. They said,
I work on a Monday, Wednesday, Friday painting decorating. It's

(56:07):
like I haven't done any paint in the decorating. What
you're talking about. I'm sat in a cell all day.
I was sat in a fucking cell all day. But
then once they said that in court, they had to
give me a job, so for the last two months
because my slitter then started hammering it. So the last
two months, on a Monday, Wednesday and Friday, they took
me out of my cell and they brought me to
a little empty unit and just put me in there.

Speaker 14 (56:27):
It's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (56:30):
What to paint summer well, pat well, to clean the floor,
and so there's another eight cells that are empty. So
I had sixteen cells here, originally had sixteen cells here.
It's like I had forty cells in a prison that's full.
You're letting all the criminals out because you're saying it's full.
I'm a civil prisoner, but I'll probably sound like I'm
just moaning and bitching because the injustice, the injustice of
seeing what the terrorists and Jahadis have got and how

(56:51):
easy of a ride they're all just out playing poo
all day together, cooking foods, having a great time.

Speaker 14 (56:55):
Stabbing prisoner of.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
This is the issue.

Speaker 15 (56:57):
I mean, twenty years ago, you were warning all that
the influx of Islamic immigration was a huge problem in
this country.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Nobody believe you.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
The very James O'Brien hammered me and I rang up
his radio show. Twenty years ago and said they're taking
over the prisons. I've just come out of jowl in
twenty ten, and I rang him up and said, you
do not understand their icist training camps. These prisons are
Jahadist training camps. Everyone's converting, nothing's being done. He just
shouted me down. Yeah, he shouted me down. I don't
think anyone understands the scale. You know, like if you

(57:27):
see in America when they see the military, they clapped
them and applaud them. If you see a prison off
touch me, you should be clapping and applaud Yeah. And
what the prison officer has explained to me is they
control the wing. So if we mess with the Muslim
brothers as staff, if we put anything, they just put
hit on us. We're getting stabbed. So then the prison staff,
and I don't blame them for it. They're just normal,

(57:48):
normal bods. It's like someone's mum.

Speaker 9 (57:49):
Some of them.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
They're just all read mums and dads and they're going
to work and they're dealing with the toughest, most hardened
Jahadist men and mindset who will happily stab them and
the happily acid in their face, happily burn them. But
so they're in this weak position where their hands are
typing you on their back by the prison system due
to allegations of racism, allegations of Islamophobia, and they can't

(58:10):
do their job. But I sat and watched all of
this and just thought, what the fuck We're fucked. The
prison system's being used every institution our country's being used
against our country that so are we heading for civil war?
Were eight hundred prisoners come out every year? This is
m I five figures, not mine. Eight hundred come out
radifies every year. They're building an army. They're building an army,
they're taking do you know when you go in jail.

(58:32):
I think people don't understand the concept of prisoners either.
But it was a different story because many of them
are serious offenders. I went on Earth when I was
in Winchester Prison. I've done a family course because to
do the family course you can get a family visit
with your children. And it was most heartbreaking experience I've
ever had. I sat with ten lads and hearing their stories.
But I had a good upbringing. I'd love him. Mom

(58:54):
and dad sat listen to stories thinking of wonder they're
satting man, These men have had nothing. They've been wronged,
they've been abused. There's a reason why most people are
sat in prisons.

Speaker 14 (59:04):
There's a reason. And you take that person who's been
wrong their.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Whole life, and you get an ideology that gives them
a brotherhood, an identity, a strong sense of belief, a
strong sense of which is his.

Speaker 14 (59:17):
Yeah, and you weaponize it, and you galvanize the hate
and the.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Wrong doing, and you aim it at Britain, which is
currently what they're.

Speaker 14 (59:25):
Doing most it's not all Muslims.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
It's not a pakistanis There's mostly whites and blacks now
with big beards.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
Yeah, there's that ginger Muslim phenomenon as well.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Yeah. Yeah, because they've always felt isolated themselves.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
Yeah. It's a genuine thing, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (59:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Gen what else is mad? Remember? Abu Halima ablu Helima
was that you had his next door the documentary he
contacted me for when Ja. I've been in contact with
him constantly since I've been out.

Speaker 9 (59:54):
He was.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I went to his house after the Salmon Abdy attack
in Manchester to point out that this is one of
the country's most theater had this and hear he used
four doors up from the junior school. He's not the
junior school of Vmber I think it was. Was it
Amber Bradbar Home Sectory. It's not near her kids. Their
kids are all all right. This man wants to take
a knife and go kill those kids. It's our kids
anoying it. But he was in contact with me about

(01:00:15):
the terrorism legislation and how they've managed to stop all
the Islamic gangs. Because they're all under these terrorism orders.
They can't speak, they can't go on the internet, they
can't be together. Interesting. I wanted to get him on
for a podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
That's interesting. You mentioned James O'Brien before, and that James
and Brian's in a bit of hot water. Remember.

Speaker 15 (01:00:32):
I don't know if you saw, but he put out
this thing on LBC from a listener saying that my
wife went to Jewish school and they were taught that
every Jew's life is worth a thousand Arab lives or.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Something, and it's it's just like a bollocks.

Speaker 14 (01:00:43):
He hates Jews.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Yeah, well, no Jews again. I'll be careful of saying
that he hates.

Speaker 14 (01:00:49):
Jews.

Speaker 15 (01:00:50):
I assume me, James, that's that's Tommy's opinion, not mine.
Oh I Actually, I actually think it's more complicated than that.
I think that people like James c Jews as white
people and they hate white pa.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
I think that's what the issue is.

Speaker 9 (01:01:02):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I think they want they just want the pat on
the back and they want to like them. At a minute,
if you want people to like you, hate the Jews,
hate israel Is. Do you know what it winds me up?
Because it's a very cowardly position to be in. Yeah,
no one's going to come and kill ya for hating
this round, hating the Jews, speak out against them, Nothing's
going to happen. Talk about the real issues, James. Go

(01:01:23):
on and look at the teachings of the Koran. Go
on and look at what's happening. Go on and look
at the Islamic immigration. Go on and be brave and
speak about the five hundred men in that hotel. Some
of them if you look at the hotel in Norwich,
two of them are. Look at the hotel where the
girls getting sexual assaulted in school uniform. Another sexual attack here,
say speak.

Speaker 15 (01:01:37):
About that, but they are cowards, They are cowards. He
won't do it, you know, I thought this about it.
I love Louis the Arue I think he's great. You
did this video about the ultra Zionists who are extreme,
and I think they do a lot of things wrong
in you know these but I said, you know, those
are the most extreme people you can find in Israel.
They weren't they weren't anything like even an average Muslim
family around the Middle East.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
And Louis hasn't gone and done that. Would the BBC
even allow him to?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
No, and it'd be too scared.

Speaker 14 (01:02:00):
Yeah, go and confront that, Jaddis.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
I keep thinking this whether even with these these ethno
nac groups keep piping up about me, I think, go
do s won't you go? I'll tell you what, why
don't you go down to East London to the most
extreme moscars start challenging them.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
They just want to have to go at you.

Speaker 15 (01:02:15):
I mean, you've received a lot of criticism from the
right for standing with Jews. Jews love you for it,
not least because there's like no one else to cling to.
I dewing this country. There's two hundred thout, there's hardly
any Jews left in the country, and that most Jews
now they're looking at you and going, thank God, there's
someone who has wants England, you know, is supporting England,
but also the Jewish people who are English, and you

(01:02:36):
know it would be a lot easier for you to
just not speak about that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
Is there an extent of it just being my enemy's
enemy is my friend. The enemy of the Muslims in
the sense is that's my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
So I grew up in Luton, and as I grew up,
I'll give an example. I've done this before. I went
to there's a Jewish covenant, you know, with all the
ultrasis out by Lily. And that's when we were kid,
real little ships because I was eleven, twelve, thirteen, and
we used to go and people would get chases and
it didn't I didn't know that they were Jews. Yeah,

(01:03:07):
but you'd get chases off whoever you get chased off,
chases off, frying staff, knocking on doors.

Speaker 15 (01:03:11):
If there's a fellow with a beard, and it hatretty
weird living in the woods, pretty weird living in the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
So everyone go down now. I remember who was there
once and my mate, who was a Muslim, fletting off
a flare gun letting off flares, and he said, my
mom would be so proud of me. Look what so
my mama fucking killed me. Why wou'd you m be proud?
There's Jews, fucking Jews. Yeah, And I didn't know much
at this point then, And this is one example. Then

(01:03:37):
there was Jewish families member in the Holocaust in Luton
town center. They had to barricade themselves inside the town
hall as the groups of mushra Hadeen Yeah, Anne Midradine,
which was a which wasn't a prescribed terrrist organization which
now is come and started attacking and they and the
fact I can still there was fact there was little
kids all crying. The looton is Amac center which is
the main madical just had this mosque in the town Yeah,

(01:03:57):
which was where Coligue massued thems, the bridgettacker. He was
registered as a school teacher there. It's where the Stockholm
bomber went. This was a major playing mosque in Luton,
the Harvest Salafist Mosque.

Speaker 14 (01:04:09):
That's the old synagogue.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I've watched. There's no Jews left in Luton. You can
walk I'll tell you what, get skull cap and go
walk through Berry Park. See here you going. It's a
no goes on for Jews. So I've seen all of this,
and then I understand I and I listen. For example,
her mass on October seventh, on October eighth, what did
they say, We're not coming for Israel. We're coming from London,
We're coming from New York, We're coming from Rome. Their

(01:04:32):
idea her mass are isis how do you negotiate with
her mass? Her masses manifesto set up one of the
articles in there in their manifesto, So take the Labour
Party because her mass are the Labour Party doesn't much difference.

Speaker 14 (01:04:44):
But her mass is late.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Her massive manifesto says the final day of judgment will
not come until every Jew is dead, not every Zionist.
And bullshit about Zionism. It's got nothing to do with Zionism.
It's got nothing to do with Israel. Mine Camp is
seven percent anti due hatred. Mine Camp Hitler's book The
Quran's eleven right, takeout Israel out of the equation, and
was him take the Jews. Mohammed hated the Jews, Coyukyuba,

(01:05:07):
you know that. I remember watching and there was a
mass rally coming out of Loot and they're all marching
about Palestine, and they've all got Balaklava's on. They're all
chanting Kyober, and I was thinking, what are they talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
This?

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
When I was getting my head into all this is
going back probably fifteen years before the edl And I'm
looking and they're marching and they're chanting about Jewish tribes.

Speaker 14 (01:05:27):
And only when I started getting my head in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
And I read the biography in Ishiak, the Biography of Mohammed,
which is Muhammad's life by you in Isshattak is the
most recognized and renowned biography of the prophet Muhammad's life.
And six hundred Jews surrendered and they surrendered themselves, and
they surrendered, and he lined all.

Speaker 14 (01:05:44):
The men up, and he pulled their pants down.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
And again this is important because whatever Mohammad did is
how the Pestuarga school attacked. Remember that in Pakistan. Yeah,
exactly what they've done. So when they attacked the school,
they pulled their pants down. Whoever started puberty they were beheaded.
So Mohammed beheaded six Jews in one day. This is
their Jesus. That's what people that I need to understand.
It's ain't a man of peace, is ain't a holy man.

(01:06:07):
This is a warrior and a barbarian and after beheading
the leader of the tribe. Yeah, he took his wife
Sophia that night. This is this is insane. Yeah, just
and when I talked to Misslings about this, I said,
how can you agree with this? He took and this
isn't my opinion. He took Sofia that night and he
married her. So he beheaded her husband, behead of our

(01:06:29):
old family. And then that night what are we talking
about here? And this is the man who thinks perfect.
And when they're marching Coba cob and they're chanting, that's
what they're charming about him killing the Jews. It's like
this is all interacted, it's all plays apart. So I
don't see I don't see that it's about that. And
when we look at Israel, I went to Israel, I

(01:06:50):
went to the camps. I went to Bethlehem. I went
to a fatire controlled refugee camp. I paid young Muslims
to take me. I risked my life when I went there.
I went my mate from school. I said, we can't
come and listen to the Jews. We need to listen
to the Muslims, so let's go into a camp. So
we paid these young Arabs, and we went into a
fatire controlled refugee camp and I've got video of it.
I'm walking around and I'm like, who's she because they've

(01:07:12):
got all murials on all the sides of the houses.
She blew up a bus in Israel, so she's a
fucking terrorist. She's a martyr. And so I'm going through
and talking about understanding, and the Muslim lads kept telling
me he was a fourth generation refugee. I really got
on with him when I got back to Israel, to
the safe zone, because in Israel there's all parts do
not pass here. When we went out, Oh that's where

(01:07:33):
we need to go. Yes, we need to see what's
going on. But I've riskeened my life to go there.
And I have some liberal mug in England talking to
me about Palestine. I think, if you ever even been there,
have you ever spoke to them, have you actually ever
set foot? Because I went into the camp, spent a
day with them, all playing foot, running around with all
the little kids.

Speaker 14 (01:07:49):
I felt my heart bled for them. It works. And
what the refugee said is never fun.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Free Palestine in your country, he goes, the money doesn't
come to us, he goes I'm a fourth generation refugee,
will be fifth, their's will be sick, there will be seventh.
We've had twice as much money than Germany after the
World War to rebuild this place, and it hasn't been rebuilt.
We haven't even got a park because they bring politicians
here and it works because I said to my mate,
I want to give them money. When we left, I thought,

(01:08:16):
I want to help them kids. H I want to
help them kids. And what I then found as we're
walking around the camp is that the palestiniau ffori.

Speaker 14 (01:08:22):
Because I kept.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Saying to him, asking questions, who's oppressing you? What do
I think He's going to say, Israel Palatinia authority. I'm
not who's the Palaestine fari? They're the ones that govern us.
He goes and what happens here. So and it changed
my mind on a lot of things. Is if someone
leaves this camp and murders an Israeli and I said
a Jew, he goes, No one is Rali. It kept
correcting me. It doesn't matter if they call a Muslim

(01:08:44):
Israeli or a Jewish Israeli. If they leave the camp
and killing Israeli, their family get money for the rest
of their life from the palastiniau Foriti. Say, I looked
at the Palatinia Ffori, who funds a Palaestinian Fari. We
do British tax pose money, so we're paying our money
to go to the palastineau Fority, to pay mercial to
leave the refugee camps to go and kill his radies
and then they get rewarded. So and I said to
my mat Dean, I said, I've got three kids. He's

(01:09:06):
got kids. You do anything to help your kids. How
do you get out of this camp? Go killing Israeli,
Go killing Israeli. So and as I walked round, I
didn't realize how many Muslims there are in Israel. Look
forget the forget these zones actually to actually actually in
the state of Israel, and they're all living pretty happily,
and it surprised me. We went past. There was a

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video I Love Israel t show from a tourist shop.
I had a most had one as well, from a
tourist shop. So I love Israel. And I saw about
two thousand young Arabs and they're doing camel racing. And
I've said stop the car and we'll stop the car
and walked over in the middle of this field, there's
lads of clinashicas machine guns, and I've I'm walking in

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and Trump had just been elected, and we're walking thinking
what's gonna happen here?

Speaker 14 (01:09:53):
No one batter an eyelid.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
And then as I'm leaving, there's there's loads of there's
Jews sitting having a picnic. So there's a thousand young
muslim men and there's Jews having a picnic and no
one's bating annoyed. For if there was a thousand young
Muslim men in the East London park and there were
visible jew sitting having a picnic, they're getting it.

Speaker 15 (01:10:10):
So the suggestion then would be there is something about
political Islamism that we're seeing in Britain and Europe, but
there is other kinds of Islam that can exist in
the modern world. We're starting to see bits of that
in Qatar, Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
And looking at Qatar Taudi Arabia, I think the king's
taking it in the right direction. But to compare to Qatar,
Qatar spent seven hundred and fifty million pounds three quarters
of a billion pounds islamizing Europe. They funded the ghettos
in France. They've just done another ten billion for some bullshit.
It's all money that they're just declared ten billions. But
they fund the extremist salities, that's right, Yeah, they fund

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the problem. They create the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
Then the UAE have.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
The UAE have a stance on radical Jihadis mindsets and
they banned them. So his but to here who are
prescribed in the United Arab Emirates are in university in Britain.

Speaker 15 (01:11:01):
Yeah, so that's a type of Islam that is existing
currently in the United Arab memorys.

Speaker 14 (01:11:06):
I wouldn't say's islama.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
I'd say the United Ara Rememorates is a business, and
they know that the future of their business relies on
British and Western tourism.

Speaker 14 (01:11:15):
They're becoming a tourist.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Destination and they know that if that's the only future
they've got, and also they understand that you can't allow this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
The difference with Britain is if you go back to
the eighties and seventies, we because we wanted a musra
Hadeen strong force to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, we
get based many of these groups. We allowed them to
be in London. The Muslim brotherhood. They've got offices. So
the terrorist groups that abandon in all the Islamic countries
have got offices in our country. You can make it up,

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and then we're now reaping the We're now reaping the
problems from allowing twenty to thirty years of this radical
Jahadi's mindset.

Speaker 14 (01:11:51):
We don't try and stop it. We're not stopping the funding.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
We're not stopping the extremist preachers coming in from Saudi,
coming in from Pakistan. Literally one day they're in a
cave in Afghanistan talking shit about jihad, and the next
day they're in a mosque and lumin.

Speaker 15 (01:12:05):
As a political activist, what what would you say is
your biggest weakness?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
My biggest weakness probably I'm impulsive, very impulsive.

Speaker 14 (01:12:16):
Is it a weakness?

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I shoot from the heart and if i think I'm right,
which I am right, I'm not going to back down.

Speaker 15 (01:12:25):
Do you think that the the Tommy Robinson sort of
symbol or the aura around you that has led, to say,
Nigel Ferrage to distance himself from you, could that be
made better by I'm thinking maybe some of your tweets
like this, look at this Sharia like a future video
of you know, this is Sharia England with like rubbish
and shit everywhere.

Speaker 14 (01:12:44):
Yeah, No, I just think that we have to tell
the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Is Nigel five to tending the truth? Is he? Is
he tending the truth about his long? Has he mentioned
one word about his long? What's the biggest threat to
Europe and Britain Islam? Has he mentioned it?

Speaker 10 (01:12:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
So he's not brave enough to tell the truth. He's
not brave enough to confront the real problem. He'll talk
about the boats, that's easy. It talk about immigration, that's
not difficult at the minute. And Nigel jumps on the
rides the wave after someone's got that wave. Donald Trump
didn't do that. None of the populist leaders in Europe
have done that. They've all gone through hell and they've
all told the truth, every single one of them. Nigel

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just jumps in at the right time. And then it's
quite easy to do what Nigel's currently doing. And then
when Nigel silences Saw attacked us Nigel when I was
in prison, I'm a solitary confinement. I'm sat in jail
and he just took the opportunity to sit on TV
and lie about me. Nigel told people, do you know
Kenny Baderok had made comments about the Reform membership and

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Nigel went mad. I listened to it all. He's going
mad about how she's she's slanted him and attacked him
and lied about the membership.

Speaker 14 (01:13:44):
And then the week later he sat on TV and said,
Tommy Robinson's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Got conviction for violence against women. I've never got conviction
for violence against women. And they've been arrested for violence
and women. I've got no niligation of violence against women.
Yet Nigel sat on TV and said that, And then
this is meant and Nigel and Reform and I get
upset about it, but it won't or Reform supports won't
like to hear it. If Nigel believes in free speech,
why has he kicked anyone out at the party who's
told the truth about his lum Why is he Why

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have people been kicked out for speaking about transcendrism? There's
no difference. Why did Why did Nigel flarge and Reform
and went under his Under his leadership use hope not hate?
Why were they in bed with hope not hate? They
use hope not hate. Hope I hate a far left
organization who have targeted and persecuted anyone who spoke against
Groomy who spoke at the parties. Nigel fried got rid
of Rupert Lowe and told Ruth Blow to shut his

(01:14:29):
mouth about the racks. Nigel Flange told Andrew Bridge and
to shut his mouth about the vaccines when Andrew Bridge
went to Nigel Frage. I respect Andrew Bridge massively because
he's someone who put his neck on the line and
lost his whole career because of it.

Speaker 15 (01:14:41):
Is it maybe though that it's quite difficult to break
through in British compared to other European.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah, it's it's not difficult. The whole country is ready.
That's the problem. Nigel is still five years behind made
the country is ready. The stasistics has come out. Yes,
say forty a percent of the public don't believe his
larms compatible with British values. Forty percent of the public.
Nigel needs to stop looking at the Tory voters and
understand that labor got voted off nine million people. What
about the nineteen million people who didn't vote. They're the
nineteen million people from our backgrounds who are fed up,

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feel it, alienated, feel betrayed, and you need to politicize them.
You need to get them involved in politics, because when
peoplen't see a political solution, when they don't see an answer,
I think we're going to see that tensions arising in
this country. And last year, twelve months ago, when the
Southport attacks happened and there were the riots, the government
should have listened. They should say, oh, hey Broin, we

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understand you're scared. We understand your daughters are scared. We
understand fit women are now scared in towns of cities
across this country. They didn't do that. They banged loosey
colony up. They banged people up for a few mean
words someone shouted at police dog.

Speaker 14 (01:15:42):
Give them two years, three years.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
They clamped down and they tried to suppress the legitimate
concerns of the British public. And right now it's brewing
again and they're not and again the gas lighting far
right this, but they're not far right. People's daughters can't
walk down the street anymore. Mothers are scared.

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
You're worried, though.

Speaker 15 (01:15:59):
I mean, historically you see sort of one force on
one side rises up too far, and then another side
comes as a reaction and goes too far the other way.

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
It just always happens in history, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Yeah, I do worry, which is why if you look
at our events called the United the Kingdom, the last
three successful events, I've learned a lot. I've held sixty
national demonstrations. I've seen how we're infiltrated. I've seen, you know,
January sixth, look up Special Demonstration Squad. Yeah, look up Google,
Special Demonstration Squad. The British state has a group that

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infiltrates protest movements wearing balaclavas and masks in order to
provoke violence.

Speaker 14 (01:16:36):
Just what you've seen this week in Epic.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
In Epin we saw peaceful community who were growing in number,
growing in confidence. We finally saw British mums standing up
and saying we're scared, not scared to speak anymore.

Speaker 14 (01:16:49):
Yeah, they want them scared to speak.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
So what do they do?

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
They bust in paid agitators paid by the Labor Party,
so the unions pay them. The unions are in bed
with the government and Labor Party. So that's the government
supporting paid agitators to be ferried in by a police force,
bringing them in to attack ordinary people. So then the
media act as a weapon for the state to publish
all images of aggression and violence and say, thugs, far

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right hooligans.

Speaker 15 (01:17:13):
It's all planned for anyone who doesn't know about that
and is listening, it does sound when you say it
like when you first hear it, it sounds conspiratorial.

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
But they've admitted the police, they admitted that this is
what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
They've admitted there was videos of it. But what people
understand and now people are making a big song and
dancewer about it.

Speaker 14 (01:17:27):
I think, well, this has gone on for fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
I've watched it. So do you know what we've done
to stop that? At our events? If you turn up
the mask, we're going to take it off you. I'm
going to make a video this week just try and
explain to people we're in a dangerous situation here where
people are coming out protesting against these events that these
these hotels. Now, what the establishment and the government were
able to do last time was label these people these

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events as riots. Yeah, if you don't liaise with the police,
they can bring in conditions, they can.

Speaker 14 (01:17:56):
Limit where you walk.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Now, when they start putting police officers out and blocking stas,
that's what brings a confrontation. Now, once that confrontation comes,
and then label you all as rioters and they lock
you all up.

Speaker 14 (01:18:06):
Yeah, you have to work with the police.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
So I'll be saying, if you're organized on a protest
outside the hotel, sit down in the a's with the police.
Make sure you sit down and your agree terms, your
greeting conditions, record everything. Yeah, do not allow this to
spiral into a riot, and do not allowing some people
to carry on because those men have got Those men
are angry. And I remember last and I said all
this when the riots are going on last year, I said,
where are the men.

Speaker 14 (01:18:26):
Men need to be in those town centers.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Taking the masts off the kids because those kids are
I would say legitimately and justified anger because then the
girls in their community have been in towns and cities
across this country. Yeah, but you need to channel that anger,
and someone's got a director in the right way because
at the minute explosions of anger, those people are going
to be put into prison. Then when they get into prison,
like happened in the last summer, they're going to be

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targeted by all.

Speaker 14 (01:18:50):
The Muslim gangs and fed to them like a bit
of meat.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
That's what happened.

Speaker 15 (01:18:53):
So that's something that I think I think you've said
has happened. Happened years ago with the EDL that it
got taken over, the sort of fringe racists.

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
We don't want them to rise up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
No, they're not going to rise up. There's ten of them.
That's the reality. The British public are never going to
go with this eth no national bullshit. The British public
don't support this. Every single British person everyone loves non
white people and have them in their family and have
them as friends. We're not that place, but we're different
to looking at some European countries. I look at France.
All the black immigration France has had is Islamic, so

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there's a massive devoid there.

Speaker 9 (01:19:27):
Not for us.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
That's not like that in England. We don't have that
racial problem blacks and whites like yeah, that's what I've
seen my whole life.

Speaker 15 (01:19:35):
It's such a funny thing. I don't because I've been
doing this for years now. It's all the people. Everyone
who comes on the show is a far right, horrible person.
I never heard any of them say a disparaging word
against black people, Asians, whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
It's absolutely mad. What happened with the Daily Mail thing?

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
So Daily Mail, so this is outrageous really, and I
looked at what they've done earlier recently. I'm away and
I'm face in prison anyway, yeah for this other case,
and I've gone, I'm out of the country before any
rights the daily amount And in fact, let me show
you this. The riots are kicking off, and as they're

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kicking off, Kirs Starmer rather than accept the ordinary British
people in every town city you are upset, he wants
to blame the far right because if he manages to
blame the far right, he doesn't have to have a
conversation about why people out on the streets.

Speaker 14 (01:20:27):
If you look, say, for example, was it in Hull.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
In Hull one of the migrants left the hotel and
murdered the British pensioner in the street in an attack
for Palestine. Most people don't know this. Mahammed left the
hotel in Tamworth and raped a woman. Mahamed So in
all these TWN cities where people are out in the
street protesting Rotherham. I watched a recent Channel Foard documentary.
They didn't mention that the young girls had been sexually

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accosted young children by the migrants in that hotel, so
they don't mention any of this. But as the riots
are going on, Keir Starmer's government decided, right what we
need to do is you need to blame I'm far
right now, I've got nothing to do with the riots.
I'm making videos saying take the battle, halfs off, stop
attacking police. This isn't the way. Yeah, they send journalists.
I don't know how they send journalists to track me down.

(01:21:12):
Let me read you what they say. I'm in Cyprus
and I'm with other families, lots.

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
Of children, until all these guys just turn up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Well, I didn't see them. But the newspaper then runs
a story breaking stories me on a sun bed, yeah,
and it says instigating hate, instigating riots from his sunbed
basically yea.

Speaker 14 (01:21:29):
And as they've done that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
The story's gone viral everywhere all over the world, fifteen
million views. Then there's videos being made by Muslims because
they get they docked the location. Well was and they
published images of my innocent family members in the paper.

Speaker 14 (01:21:44):
Now they know there's threats to my family.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
You know, they've just done a recent family which showed
the afghaniese coming off planes where one Afghani member had
two family members.

Speaker 9 (01:21:51):
Do you see it?

Speaker 14 (01:21:52):
But the Daily mail blurred all their family.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
So you blur in the refugees, you blur in terrorists,
but you're showing him in us moy inno, some family
members who.

Speaker 5 (01:22:01):
Have got threats to kill them, and you didn't even
see them. They were like doing a lot, like I
didn't see the bushes.

Speaker 14 (01:22:05):
Yeah, I didn't see him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
I didn't see them. But then the next day, six
three different groups turned up at the hotel. So the
hotel managers pulled me in and said, whisked for our
guests here. Yeah, please don't leave the room until we
can sort something out. So then the hotel got all
different security and they said, we need you to leave.
So this is the second day on my holiday. Man,
I've planned this holiday for a year and my kids
needed a break. And but then I didn't want my

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kids to lose out because there was four four other
families there with all my kids are friends with. So
I had to leave.

Speaker 14 (01:22:32):
Yeah, and I left, And then I looked through what
they've done.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
There was them threats and videos being made to kill
my family, Muslims making videos with machine guns, all these attacks,
and in this two day period, I looked at what
they've done. I tried to ring the Daily Mail. I
tried to ring the editor. I sent them a damp
direct message saying, you need to speak to me, you
need to contact me with what you've done. You've endangered
my family. Yeah, and then I thought, you know what,

(01:22:55):
I'm going to find them. I'm going to challenge them
and question them on camera. So I sent we have
surveillance teams for when we're tracking the Islamic gangs. So
I sends valance teams, say get me the addresses, find
the locations of these people. They've done that. The next day,
up in scent images of their of them. So I've
got an it. I can't name him, Strake to Joe.
I've got an image of one of them. I've gone

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image of the other one. I've got their family coming out.
So what I did is I took the image of
their family. Remember they published the image of my family.
I blurred out their faces and I blanked out their addresses.
And then I tweeted them saying I'm not going to
do what you've done. I'm never going to give the
location of where you are. I don't think it's morally
right to show any innocent family members. But I want

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you to think about what you've just done to my kids. Yeah,
you've endangered my family. And then I said I'm going
to be asking you questions on camera.

Speaker 14 (01:23:43):
Yeah, that's it. Made it very clear. They've then run
to the police. This is a daily mail.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Remember they harass everyone, they persecute everyone off and do
you know this? This this holiday here When I was
released from jow in twenty eighteen, and I've got the
video of this, but.

Speaker 14 (01:23:57):
I had to take it down.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
The police made me I was going to be reminded
in jail last month if I didn't remove the video
from the video showing the public what they've done to me.
So twenty eighteen, I'm released from Joao solitary confinement. The
next day I take my kids away. I'm in tel
Reef at the end of the holiday. I clopped this bloke.
I've got my kids are there. I don't drink when
I'm in my children. I've never had to drink my kids.

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It's all that they booked into two rooms up from
where I was. I didn't know this, and they've been
taking picture to me every day. And when I cloped
this bloke, I see him, and I see him walk off,
and I knew something was wrong.

Speaker 14 (01:24:29):
So I chase after to him, I said, who are
you and what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:24:32):
He goes, I'm a journalist. To me, I said, what
have you been doing?

Speaker 5 (01:24:36):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
How long have you been here? And I'm like, have
you pictures my kids? Have you got picture? And arn't
panicking because no one knows my ex wife.

Speaker 14 (01:24:42):
There's no image of her. There's no image of her,
so she can walk down the street.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
Yeah, she No one's going to.

Speaker 14 (01:24:48):
Attack her, no one knows who she is.

Speaker 9 (01:24:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
So I panicked and I wouldn't let him go. In
our video it for twenty minutes. I say, ring your boss, Now,
get your boss on the phone to me. Now, I said,
I'm going to find out who you are?

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
And I asked him the same question, Okay, if I
come take pictures of your family, I said, do what
you want with me. I don't care if you lie
about me. I'm used to it, but my innocent family.
And then so then he gets his boss on the phone,
and then I said, are you going to publish images
with my kids? He said, We're not going to publish
images of anyone else. To me, Yeah, that's the right sound.
I don't really care youaners. That's a Daily mailtain say

(01:25:20):
sorry for doing it. That was Daily Mail twenty eighten.
So the Daily Mail. Then in their pub in their article,
you can see their article, they didn't show pictures. They
blurred all the other family. Then fast forward to the
riots going on this year. They come and purposely show
pictures of my family, even though I've been here before
with them, so they've endangered my family. And they give
the exact location of where we are on the first

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day of a holiday, and here's here's there is. They
give themselves an award and that's what this was about.

Speaker 10 (01:25:45):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
In a year of unprecedented termol, nobody could touch The
Mail for quality and impact. In twenty twenty four, hard investigations,
a gender setting exclusives, fearless on the ground report in
an award winning commentary were mixed with brilliant features. Bombs, interviews,
blah blah blah, Georg dropping scoops Tommy Robinson in the
face of outrageous threats and harassment, are old fashioned sleuthing
track down Robinson tweeting from a Cypriot sun bed during

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the summer riots in HS. I'm gonna get a bit.
It's basically where they sit and say, we're proud of
what we've done, we'd do it again. Whereas that but
they're playing the victim like they're scared. I didn't I
didn't show who they were. And this is where the
male are a weapon of the state. They come and
track me down to make me the target of the
They say that the image of the last year's riots

(01:26:31):
is me and my sun bed, not actual ruder caban
me or my sunbred.

Speaker 14 (01:26:35):
Is what they made the image of the riots.

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
What are you now in trouble for that? What's the
charge I'm in.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Trouble for causing fear of violence to the journalists. So
the journalists that I told them I'm going to come
and ask you some questions on camera. I now face
ten years in prison, ten year prison, said that's not
a good threat. There's no threat. They actually say in
the open up of the trial, there's no actual threat
from mister Robinson. Yeah, but what I would have posted,
I would have known would cause him fear.

Speaker 14 (01:27:00):
It's like what they posted, but have caused you fair
they're allowed to their the state.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
I went for the state.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
I think you'll get off this one.

Speaker 14 (01:27:05):
But I've got jewelry for this one. This is the
first trial I've got jelry for.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Yeah, you're fine, Fine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Fine, I've spent twenty thousand pound already. This is gonna
cost another one hundred grand. So do I win?

Speaker 9 (01:27:16):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
When I've got the anti Semitism march in London when
I went to report you remember that and they handcuffed
me and pepper sprayed me. Ye ye, I won that case.
It cost fifty four pounds. Yeah, they found that everything
that police had done was unlawful. The bail conditions run lawful.
Did I get the fifty four grand back?

Speaker 5 (01:27:31):
No? So did I win?

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Do you win? It's law fair? But the process is
the punishment. Right now, I can't relax. I faced prison
in October. I can't plan beyond October the thirteenth. I
think for Christmas, I'm going to be sat back in jail.
What on solcial confinement again, So all of these things,
but again, and even I've come out of jail, and
I'm just being honest, I've come out of jail. I

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went one hundred one hour. When I come out with
this daily mouthing, and I felt wrecked. Man and us
all feel wrecked. I still feel wrecked.

Speaker 5 (01:28:02):
Yeah, yeah, you've got to take it easy. But you're
doing all of these.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
It's hard to take it easy.

Speaker 15 (01:28:05):
Where can people follow I've got another question for you,
but where can peop follow your calls?

Speaker 14 (01:28:08):
You can follow my cause or these are my books.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Some miles will plug them and drift a little bit,
but you can get these at trbooks dot co dot uk.
I've done four books. Only one of them was left
on Amazon. All of these went to best sellers. You
know you can buy mind camp Hitler's book in ten
different languages of Amazon. You can't buy my my story.
You can't buy my life story.

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
That's mad?

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
What does that say? But we are shifting because I've
got given back my ex account. I feel a musk
the public. The public reception I receive is hard to feel.

Speaker 14 (01:28:37):
Sometimes. I do feel sorry for myself.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
At times, and I need to slap myself out of
it because I realize there's so many people in far
worse positions and me and going through far worse than me,
and I get sown so much love everywhere. I'm going
on getting love. So the public are awake. You can
follow me on my ex account or on my YouTube
I've been given since coming out of jail. My YouTube
channel is given back to me, Tommy Robinson Official. Things
are changing, Things are changing, and they can't put they

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can't want to put it back in the box. They can't.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
Who's a heretic? You admire?

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Who's a heretic? I admire I my lots of people
throughout my activism from the start. I admire Go Wilders.
I admire do you know what? I respect anyone who
says what they think. A difficult time and do you
know for the last ten to fifteen years it was difficult.
Now there's a lot of people that speak in their mind,
which is great. They're getting the courage to speak their mind.

(01:29:26):
So on the seteing September thirteenth, we hold on next
U Night, the Kingdom Rally. I'm expecting it to be
the biggest rally of patriots the country's ever seen. It's
a free speech festival. Do you know We've got Jordan
Peterson talking, We've got Eva talking, We've got we've got
people come from all over the world. Yeah, these are
influential names. It shows how far we've come in twelve

(01:29:47):
twenty four months. Yeah, and how the bubbler's burst and
people are no longer scared to align with us, stand
with us. The British public are ready to come with us.
But again, what I would say to anyone coming, which
is the message that we have to put out want
to beat the establishment, if we want to really attract
the mainstream and really wake this nation up, you do
not cover your face, You do not come drunk. You come,

(01:30:08):
bring your flags, bring your smiles, bring your children into
a family atmosphere. It's a festival free speed. The last
thing they want us doing is celebrating identity, and that's
what we're gonna do. We're gonna have a party in
central London on September thirteenth.

Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
Too, right, that's Eva Voladingerbroke.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
I never try and say our surname because it's gone
one two syllables.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
I just got it written in front of me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
I think, I think Eva, And we've got Katie Hopkins speaking.
I think Katie, Katie. You know, people like Katie. Her
life was destroyed, They took her home, they targeted her massively.

Speaker 14 (01:30:38):
She she had to leave the country.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Yeah at a time, and then now it's changed she's
getting hugged, she's getting loved.

Speaker 14 (01:30:45):
And do you know what's going to happen?

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
And I said it for years, when the public realize
what they've done to this country, when they realize another
safety of your kids has gone.

Speaker 14 (01:30:54):
The country your children are.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Going to grab up in is going to be nothing
like the country you had.

Speaker 14 (01:30:58):
Yeah, and our kids are going to ask us, what
did you? How did you let this happen?

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
But when that happens, the public going to look for
who told the truth, and they're going to know it
wasn't the BBC. They're going to know it wasn't the politicians.
They're going to know it wasn't. They're going to look
for the truth tellers. And those truth tellers aren't going
to be perfect. I'm not perfect. I haven't been perfect.
I'm a working class kid from a rougher state in Lowtontown.
I've made lots of mistakes, don't I don't regret any

(01:31:22):
of those mistakes. I don't regret I have done an
apprenticeship in this. I feel like I'm now qualified. Yeah,
And I've learned a lot and I know that. And
I'm a forty two year old father of free I'm
a very different man toe I was when I was
twenty five. That's not the same thing I've done was wrong.
When I was twenty five. Everything was out from the heart,
everything was for the right reasons. But sometimes I said,

(01:31:44):
if you worry about consequence, you're never going to bring
about change.

Speaker 14 (01:31:46):
And we've been trying to bring about change for over
fifteen years.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
People go and get hold of Tommy's books.

Speaker 15 (01:31:53):
You want to support him because he's got some really
tricky things that cost a lot of money. Actually, I
mean just defending yourself. And also they look like great books.
But I think people should and.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
We're putting on the festival. It's going to be literally
a consult on September thirteenth.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
If you want to have a good day, people just
turn up.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Just turn up. It's free, it's free. We we we
crowd fund for people to pay for it. It's going
to be insane costs, but we know the public are
supporting it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
Check check that out.

Speaker 15 (01:32:17):
Some really interesting people, as Tommy says, like like Jordan
Peterson are going to be there, Katie Hopkins and all that.
So get hold of that. We'll put links to all
these things down below. Click that light button and keep
watching this channel. I put something interesting right here.

Speaker 5 (01:32:30):
Can I be honest with you?

Speaker 9 (01:32:55):
You sell that, you give a buck?

Speaker 7 (01:33:01):
I can give a mock man. I'm not setting up
my shoot a dad.

Speaker 12 (01:33:04):
You pt test.

Speaker 7 (01:33:06):
Don't give a bucket. I can give a mock lash sub.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Sens saint tis lash.

Speaker 7 (01:33:11):
You don't give a buck. I can give a buck lash.
I'm not selling up my phone.

Speaker 9 (01:33:14):
I nay your bit.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
Tat only bucks it because I'm doing a pitt came.

Speaker 9 (01:33:18):
I'm tro to whom afore.

Speaker 7 (01:33:19):
I'm nothing to do.

Speaker 9 (01:33:20):
But when you land, you nothing about it?

Speaker 7 (01:33:21):
They tell him, I said the.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Corner, I'm visiting the one and it wasn't in the
right inside niggas Ba comes up this one.

Speaker 7 (01:33:27):
It ain't comings about tap.

Speaker 6 (01:33:28):
The walk, that walk, picking vine let it up things
and I don't know what the buck.

Speaker 9 (01:33:32):
Do take for the whooping bot bock that I can
planning a.

Speaker 7 (01:33:41):
God So I'm knocked on the walk. Pachil ain't can
I'm talking about watch you walk, pacher, you give about it?

Speaker 9 (01:33:57):
I can give a buck rack.

Speaker 6 (01:33:59):
Success it ten episode last, you give a fuck.

Speaker 7 (01:34:02):
I can give a fun man. I'm not telling them.
I'm father tell you prinches, you give a fuck.

Speaker 13 (01:34:07):
I can give a fun manx sysday ten Mini so
old that you give an I can.

Speaker 7 (01:34:13):
Give a fun man. I'm not sell them.

Speaker 12 (01:34:14):
I'm gonna len you prid test you can't park with
the bar of song or you grabbed all both times,
can't talk to the mart of a pearl.

Speaker 9 (01:34:24):
Son grasp and talk to the bar or.

Speaker 7 (01:34:29):
Song, or you grabbed all both times and walk to
the marts of a purl soon you grab don't thing ready.

Speaker 10 (01:34:45):
I'm gonna find out.

Speaker 7 (01:34:56):
I'm gonna is my mother you think about? Must apt
to fuck you?

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
I just did you wake up? Think I give up?

Speaker 7 (01:35:04):
Thinking myself a mock you.

Speaker 6 (01:35:06):
I'm p thinking is no mother? Then the support the
fucking I must have? Did you wake come?

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
Give up?

Speaker 9 (01:35:14):
Think us? Support time?

Speaker 8 (01:35:16):
K you like my.

Speaker 9 (01:35:36):
Outside my.

Speaker 8 (01:35:42):
Bed?

Speaker 10 (01:35:47):
I can't oh yeah right away?

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Give up.

Speaker 9 (01:35:58):
I can give about success.

Speaker 7 (01:36:00):
They telling anisold there you'll give upup.

Speaker 9 (01:36:03):
I can give about there.

Speaker 7 (01:36:05):
I'm not telling I'm gonna len you pitches, you give up.

Speaker 9 (01:36:08):
I can give apart there. Success they tell me is sold.
There you give up up?

Speaker 7 (01:36:14):
Give a got there, but not selling my sonna say
you pitched
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