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Speaker 3 (00:48):
Kittles, Black Trump, Grand Wiz.
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Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Back in the house once more talking about that actual
factual is only the Good Old Boys.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Know how to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And this week we're going to get into it right
straight head because uh, this this this show was kind
of sparren out of several people hit in my line
by y'all be bashing some women, boy, and I'm like, no,
we be truth in out here, and it just just
so happens that sometimes it don't be too good for
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you know, the fair of sex man.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
So it's like you say true, then it's like kind
of like teething. You know, they gotta come in and
we give the women what they need. It just hurts
a little sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, well, well this one, we're not going to be
bashing the women, I hope. But we were laughing earlier
because of something that you said, Kittles before before you
hopped on. Me and Trump and Wiz were talking and
we were saying that you were going to find a
way to bash women anyway, and then before we went
on the air, you were already bashing women.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, I know what he hopped on the first funny
thing he said. My initial thought when he said I
was trying to prove a point to my woman, and
my thought was, well, that's your first mistake right there.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So this week we're talking about man keeping, and uh
that's something that I don't know if y'all are familiar
with the term.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Y'all know that I be up all night reading.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I told Trump, I haven't been to sleep since I
woke up yesterday yet.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Uh so, like you know, I'll just be out here,
you know, doing stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Man. You know, don't never be able to turn the
brain off. So I ended up reading this article in
a while back about man keeping and uh uh it's
it's basically, uh, we'll getting further into it a little
bit more, but basically I want to ask y'all before
we even like define what man keeping is. Like, we're
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we're we're the type of guys that we we all
taught to friends and stuff, right, Like, but do.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
You like really rely on your woman to be your friend?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You're basically, for lack of a better word, yo yo
your mother basically.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, everything like Beyonce.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
It well, for me, I'm single, so I got to
say no. But the two times when I was actually
serious about a woman, even in those two relationships, I
didn't actually rely on them to do that. And I
think they actually got mad because I didn't. Like I
made black eyed peas one night, right and they were
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so good. She got mad at me. She was like, well,
what do you need a woman for where you can
cook like this? And I refuse to give them my recipe.
So she got mad because of that. So I was
saying no, not for me, But maybe that's part of
the joy of being in a relationship, because I did
start to feel like, humph, this is kind of nice
having somebody to lean on as somebody to care for
me like this.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely an adjustment. I don't
think that I do. And we actually was kind of
having a disagreement yesterday and I fessed up and I
was like, it's all me. This is all my fault
for what we were arguing about, And a lot of
it is due to not wanting to be vulnerable and
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communicating when you're when you need help, because you feel
like as a man, you're supposed to be the superman
or the one that fixes the problems, when in a
lot of cases you're the one that is causing the
problems and your partners better equipped to salvage or fix
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those things. So like, yeah, that's something that I'm actually
dealing with on a regular basis, now.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Did you.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I hope the listeners hear how easy it was for
that man to just admit.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
That he was vong. Hey, hey, hey, don't don't go there.
We try. We try to be nice man.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I like a lot of that, Like you said, the
problems we have, it comes from us. It stems from
us because like Trump was saying, as being we feel
like we have it all the time, and then when
we don't, we get frustrated. We tend to get frustrated,
which comes off to women as anger, where it's not
directed towards them. It's just frustrating for us that we're
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not capable or not able to solve that issue right
then and quickly as we would like to. And like
Truck was saying, again, just sometimes you gotta take that
deep breath pause and in bedhay, I don't. I don't
quite understand this right now. I'm trying to figure this out.
And a woman may have that answer. But to answer
your initial question, I don't. I don't go into it
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leaning or looking for that. And women tend to have
that nurturing nature, and it feels good to us because
we have our mothers and we've left.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
The nest long long time ago, so that's that's reminiscent
for us.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
But I don't. I don't look for that in a relationship,
though it feels good sometimes. But again, I'm not looking
to just have that or do it. I don't necessarily
need it all of the time.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And we'll we'll determine if you are not looking for
that in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But I don't. But that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
We're talking about man keeping today and all of the
music it's about a woman loving a man and a
man trying to understand.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
How to love a woman.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Back back on the Little Boys Forecast Media Radio Network,
we're talking about man keeping. So what is man keeping?
And we'll bring it down like this. It's basically the emotional, mental,
and logistical labor that women perform to keep men afloat.
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Some of the stuff that they provide to us throughout
a relationship. Some of them run the household. Some of
them will run your social calendar, they'll manage that. Some
of them keep the relationship emotionally connected. They do the
work in that some of them coach us through conflicts
that we're having at work or with our homeboys, stuff
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like that. They protect our image and they anticipate our needs.
Now I want you to think about celebrity in this sense,
and I'm thinking about a woman by the name of
Jada Pinkett Smith.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
And I thought you said we weren't going to bash.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
When I'm not bashing women, I'm going to bash her.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
One of the primary things that I thought that should
have happened when Will Smith got up to walk up
to that stage to slap Chris Rock. She did in Budge,
And I can't think of any woman that I've ever
been in a relationship with that would have not try
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to grab me knowing exactly what I'm about to do,
because you should know your man's energy enough to the
point where you know where he stood up.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
He was going up there with bad intentions.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And I don't know if she recognized that at all,
because I think that she was one of those people
that is in the relationship for herself and not for
the relationship.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, I don't think she was bothered by the comments,
first of all, and I think she disrupted Will so
much that he was just in a volatile state that
maybe she couldn't have recognized it.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Honestly, Yeah, you know of the television and so I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It's a lot to go into that, but that's a
great example, though I don't think she could have known it.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
I think I think she was She loved the fact
that he stood up for her in their family, and
a lot of women feel that way. They feel like
you have to show your bravado, you got to pull
your chest out, you gotta kind of put somebody else
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in their place in order to make me feel secure
in a relationship.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
But that hair off, I mean, she had the I
looked at that, but she living in that chair? Did
y'all if I have to look back at the video,
did y'all having.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Cryse all of that?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But all I know is that I've been in situations
myself where I remember this dude, a dude was following
me around in the store, me and my late and
you know me, man, I keep a knife on me,
So I didn't know who this dude was. But she
saw me and saw my energy shift and and my
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hand was in my pocket. She knew the knife was open,
and she like tried to get me up out of
there before something happened. We got all the way down
the road before she told me who that dude was.
You know what I'm saying, And like you know, she
she did everything in her power to protect me from
doing something crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I think that that's what we.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I don't know we need to expect that out of women,
but that is like a basic need. I think that
men have to get out of their woman.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Don't you agree.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Well, here's what I think, and it's kind of long
so first of all, and I got to say it
in phases to understand for you to fully understand what
I'm saying to where I'm coming from. My first issue
is this, I don't trust the source. I don't trust
any of these magazines like New Yorker, Cosmopolitan, Vanity Fair,
because they're all written by super liberal feminists and super
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liberal for the sake of being super liberal. And I
call them all idiotic because these are the people who
want to tear down social constructs right just so they
can have something to fight against. They have outraged simply
for the sake of having outrage. Now what does that
get us wrong? That messes us up because people are
now fighting battles that don't need to be fought. I
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believe it was Malcolm X who warned us against the liberal,
the super liberal coming in who was a wolf in
sheep's clothing, because these are the people who will scream
that's racist, that's racist for stuff that slides off our back.
For example, I didn't know that the movie Tropic Thunder
was racist towards black people until some thirty year old reporter,
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a writer for the New Yorker magazine.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Because it wasn't because exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Right until a thirty year old white, super liberal writer
for The New Yorker magazine wrote a whole article about
why the movie is inappropriate and racist towards me. But
see these then get us riled up about stupid stuff,
and it distracts us from real issues, Right, So I
want to say that first. Secondly, I think this is
one of those things they getting people riled up about
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that is completely unnecessary. We got way bigger fish to fry,
because as I do my research on this, based on
what I found, the only issue would be someone saying
that it's not reciprocated. All of this stuff that the
woman is doing to keep her man, she's learning her man,
she's protecting her man, and she's keeping her man. If
it's not reciprocated, okay, I can see that being an issue.
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But then I think to myself, well, how do you
determine that it's not reciprocated. What because he's not doing
the same thing that you see for her. Well, maybe
he's keeping her in a different way that you can't see.
Maybe that's her role in the relationship because she knows
she's best at it, and he's providing for her and
protecting her in a different way that you don't see
unless you're inside that house. So I think this whole
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man keeping issue is just another waste of time done
by the super liberal idiots who want to destroy every
social construct simply for the sake of doing it to
get us riled up and distracted about stupid stuff. Meanwhile,
we forget what real racism and what real problems look
like because they keep screaming everything is racist, and everything
is massaging this, and everything is a problem.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Well, I partially agree with you in that aspect that
because the fourth for one, I just say, man keeping.
When when did that term even come into play? It's you,
it's new.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So we've always again I've said this before on the show.
We've always come up with these different labels to try
to put things in a box and understand it. But
to answer you a question, I still I believe, yes,
a woman is important in comming in the aspect of
calming her man down sometimes. But again, as a man,
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if you can't even control your own emotions, then you're
still a boy from my point of view, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
So, I mean again, we're gonna get heated. But as
you grow older.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
You learn to evaluate situations and not just go to
the extreme with it.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Do I depend on my woman to calm me down
all the time?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
No, but again, just a little pat on the back
sometimes or just a stroke of the neck or whatever.
It is calming kind of like you know, well, y'all
don't know the Marvels world. But like Black Widow would
would talk to the Halt when he's getting aggrad. It's
just like, hey, hey, big guy, the sun is coming down.
The sun is coming down. You know he would he
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would turn back into Bruce. But you know it's needed sometimes.
But it's again, it's me personally. It's not something I
lean to because I'm learning as I get older to
control that emotion, just to pause and think before I
act in all aspects, you know.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Trump Now, I don't have anything to add to what
Wiz was saying. I think that there was a lot
of good points in there. I just feel like, like
I was saying, some women and I've had these conversations,
they want you to fight for them, fight on their
behalf in order to feel protected and safe in a relationship.
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And I could see by looking at everything that they
publicly put out there over the years that Keith else
the need to prove themselves and like that was his choice,
that was his choice to marry someone from the streets
of Baltimore where she grew up in an environment that
would predicate that sort of behavior showing love. So I
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don't to me, it's not a surprise at all.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, all right, we're going to come back and we're
going to talk.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
About how men end up relying on their women for
companionship because they don't have enough male friends. Back on
the Good Old Boys Forecast Media Radio Network talking about
man keeping.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
So I know a lot of men.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Are operating God Like they're saying that we're in the
midst of a loneliness crisis right now.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I'm assuming that this is more about.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Men and in the generation under us younger than us,
maybe like ten fifteen years younger than us. But I've
always felt like in all of my groups of friends,
we all show affection to each other, Like you know
what I'm saying, Like, I don't know how many times
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I've told all of all of my friends that I
love them, like, especially dudes that I don't get to
talk to regularly. I'm not hanging out that phone. I'm
gonna let you know, man, I love you, don't because
I don't know, like I've already lost friends. I don't
know if this is the last time I want to
speak to you and stuff, right, But I do see
guys in their twenties they don't have that, and I
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think that they end up like getting with a woman
and then they bond with that woman because they don't
have any male friends to bond with. Is that something
that you guys have been recognizing as well with younger guys.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Now that you've said it, I can see it and
I can understand it, and it goes back all the
way to the the Internet of these kids growing up
with it because that was their friend. We were out
in the streets riding bikes, playing basketball and making these
connections as youngsters and and I and I as soon
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as you said it, it just it hit home with me, like, yeah, definitely,
I can see that taking place in that generation behind us.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I think they just.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Really need to to to to do things more to
connect with each other. But it's it's kind of sad.
I just like I couldn't fathom that, Like I said,
they're gonna look to that woman to do everything with them. Hey, hey,
I'm going out with Susie to night and and her
husband or something, you know, And just like I don't
need that because I got friends in different networks across
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the board, you know, and I can go hang out
with my girls friends or or somebody else's friends and
meet them and connect. I don't go to necessarily make friends,
but I'm able to speak in a room and kind
of network and figure out who who I can with
or have something in common with. But I think that's
the cause of it, because they they've been on their
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phones and on the internet or in the house playing
call of duty all day instead of making those spreads
early on.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of guys, very relatively young
guys in young relationships like twenties, thirties, maybe married, maybe
have a longtime girlfriend, and they do require they do
rely on their women to be their friends. But a
lot of it is because they were told that the
stuff that men do to bond and be men is
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now toxic, so they shouldn't be doing it. So they
try to move away from those environments where their men
are exhibiting toxic behavior. In according is with what these
people have determined this toxic, and I asked a question like, well,
can you give me an example. Yeah, a bunch of
dudes hanging out in the bar talking. That's apparently toxic,
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and they're afraid to be in a situation where misogynistic
behavior could come out. But a lot of it is
just really and I hate to use this phrase because
President Trump used it as a way to excuse actual
inappropriate behavior, but a lot of it is locker room
behavior and it's called male bonding. This is not bad
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in and of itself. Now it can be weaponized and
turned into bad. But we've gotten to the point where
when everything is racist, everything is misogynists, everything is inappropriate.
We're afraid to do anything, and now we don't know
what actual problems are anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I think also like it is to add to those
younger guys behind us. I think the ones who actually
like join a fraternity or something, they get that opportunity
to bond with guys and have something in common other
than the every day of what they've been doing with
the other posts. So I think they're those are the
ones who are more prone to look like the guys
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that we grew up with.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know, Yeah, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Another conversation from yesterday, like yesterday just pretty much dovetailed
into this topic. Was like I was telling I was
telling my dad because we were about to leave the
head to the airport and we were eating and I
tell them I always get sad when I'm leaving family,
and I didn't have an appetite to eat, and I
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was just like telling, telling my wife afterwards, like moving
to Florida was something that I felt was necessary this
next chapter in life. But it's the first time that
I was away, well that I'm away from family and
friends where they're not within driving distance, so it just
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amplifies like missing them or leaving them. And yeah, just
because yeah, we're we've joined the church, like I've met
a few people. Making friends isn't easy, and you're not
you don't really want to, like you just want to
stay in your own bubble. So do you do you.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Find it like that that's order to do because you're
older and you're in a new place.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yeah, because I feel like, like when we were talking
about a few weeks ago, at the time, like I
feel like my time needs to be spent working on
you know, forecast media, doing whatever else. I'm doing when
it comes to podcasting, cooking, taking care of the house
since she's working from seven to seven Monday to Friday.
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So like when someone asked me, like, you want to
go to a heat game, you want to go hang out,
go to strip club or grab a drink, I'm just like,
I have to really assess whether that's something that I
can devote time to. And then they're probably seeing as like, yeah, Troy,
I reached out to Troy. I'm trying to make friends
with him, but he's always making up some sort of
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reason why he can't. It's not that I don't want to,
I just don't. I feel like my my responsibility is
to take care of you know, these things over hanging out.
So yeah, I put building friendships on the back burner.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Well, let me ask you this Black Trump do. Does
your wife provide a lot of the services that was
outlined in this man keeping article.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I think there's a lot.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
Of things that she she does that you know is unheralded. Yeah,
Like she's the one she likes to, uh set up
dates like where we hang out with you know, one
of her friends and her husband, and sometimes I nix those,
like sometimes the husband will Sometimes they'll like the wives
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will indirectly tell the husband to reach out to the
other husband, like sometimes Venus. Venus will reach out to
Joy and be like, tell Troy to hit up CJ
and see if if they want to come to the
marriage roundtable that we go to once a month. So
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it's something that we I feel like on all sides,
like as men, we're just we're just comfortable in our
environment and sometimes, you know, putting ourselves in different circles,
is it's something we're not comfortable with.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Well, that's the reason I ask is because this is
what I was exactly what I explained in the first segment. Now,
the article said, the men are not reciprocating these services
provided by the woman in this quote, in this supposed
man keeper right now, Black and I said, well, maybe
they don't know what the men are doing. Maybe they
just because it's not transactional in the way they wanted
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to be. They say it's not reciprocated. Right, So I
asked Black Trump, does your wife provide these services? He
said yes, But what did he say before that? He said,
his responsibility for the correct the cleaning. He said the
podcast that he's doing all these things that are not
considered in that article, which is why I say this BS.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Right, We're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about
how this thing kind of culturally transitions when it comes
to Black women in particular. Back on a Good Old
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Boys forecast media radio network, d w are you watching
the k Kittles, Black Trump and grand Wized Good Old
Boys radio show talking about man keeping. So we've been
talking about this thing just from a male female perspective,
but it seems like in in in Black America, black
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women traditionally carry multiple loans. They carry that emoltual support,
financial support, household organization, social caretaking. I've talked to people
about this from other races about how in the Black
family we are much more of a matriarchal society than
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our counterparts are, because when you look at other races,
they always talk about grandpa, grandpa, and grandpa, But in
the Black family, grandma, grandma, grandma, and then when grandma dies,
it seems like all of that falls apart and you
don't get the family together as much. So there's a
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lot that is on Black women and he killus. I
know that your your grandmother like served like a big
role in a large family.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, yeah, oh you want me to dive into that.
I wanted to speak on that. Yeah, well, most definitely.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Man, we lost our grandmother in like twenty twelve, and
I remember my aunt Robin saying to me what she
said to all of us after the She was like,
you know, we lost the matriarch, but we still family.
We need to still come around and connect with each other.
Because she knew exactly what you just stated. You know
that that was just a major part and like I said.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
A huge family.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Man. You know, we talking well eleven than twelve, twelve
boys and three girls, you know, so it's like that's
just the kids. So you know, and one of my
other cousins were talking about just the first cousins and
all of us and we have like we got like
three to four different groups of or generations so to speak,
of first cousins, and it was like thirty two of us,
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you know what I'm saying. Like, but Grandma played a
major part in that. Again, as far as like you
say on Sundays that the Dinners the just I'm amazed
at how she knew everyone's name and the family that
she came from was large and it was just it
was important just to go there and connect with everybody
because that was just the central the nucleus for everybody
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to come to it.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Oh hey Mama, hey grandma Jay and you know.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Just moving and keeping the family centralized, you know, So
it's important. I know it's a lot on them, and
she she made it look easy. But I never looked
or or made, you know, wanted somebody else to be that.
But you know, if they are that genuinely, then that's
something you just you take heed to it. And maybe that's
something that attracts us that we're not really aware of sometimes.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
But you know, my old.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Lady, she would cook, she would clean, But at the
end of the day, I knew that. Again, my mother
taught me how to do those things. I appreciated it.
Do I need it, No, But again, when someone does
it and it's genuine you tend that's something that just
attracts you because they're doing it without you, like having
to crack the whip so to speak.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
You know what said, uh, part of the reason why
everything d Mario Watchington started this off by saying, it's
true why in our culture black people, the emphasis is
on the grandmother and the mother is maternal part of
the reasons like that are the same people who wrote
this article, that same mentality that helped destroy our family
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structure by telling us everything we were doing was wrong,
it is toxic. And then of course the welfare system
and all of that which would said, don't have that man.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
In your house.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
You can't can't be there, right, So I just think
it's funny that the people who wrote this article are
part of the problem that destroyed what used to be
a paternal emphasis in the black family. I know it
was when my mother was a kid because she talks
about her father and grandfather. All of that flip with
the next generation.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Yeah, so like even outlining what I just said about myself,
like imagine when that is also the case with the
generation before you. So you know, it's well chronicle that
I met my biological father like six years ago, and
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you know, we've we've made an effort, We've made an
effort to stay in contact and visit each other and
things of that nature. It's still a work in progress.
But the muscle behind all of that is the women
that we're both married to. So it's like my wife
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and my mom his wife, like they orchestrate a lot
of the communication because I think it's still still a
barrier in place of him picking up the phone to
call me or me picking up the phone to call him.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
So they're the.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Ones that are like like joy is always like when
was the last time he talked to your dad? Like
his birthday was November nineteenth. I called but didn't get
an answer, didn't get a call back. So a lot
of times they're the ones getting the wheels in motion
in order just to make sure that relationship is it
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is strengthening.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And I'll say it again, you don't necessarily need that,
and you made But at the end of the day,
you made the call. What I heard saying that, hey
did you call them? You just called them right, So
again you taking those steps.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's part of us and within it.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
And like you know, I always refer to fabulous as
Deacon fam he said on one of his tracks, do
it because you love it.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You know, if you love it and you want to
do it, then do it.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
And don't let other people's actions dictate what you want
to do and what's in your heart.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Because you're a good brother.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Whether he reaches it, he may reach out sometime down
the line and oh man, I missed that call. And
we know technology happens sometimes, you know. Not making no
excuses for him because I don't know, but I do
think like this year, I didn't reach out to a
lot of people on Thanksgiving except for the ones who
reach out to me.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Not out of hatred.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I know.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I always take that step and it's a lot of work.
I'll do it for Christmas because again it's in my heart,
because I love Christmas, because my birthday is around that time,
and my grandmother's birthday. Again that connects and again, but
you have to do it because you love it. And
to the women out there, do it because you love it.
Don't do it because you feel your man needs it
or that you have to do it because that's what
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he dictates, so he wants of you.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Do it because you love it. Do it because you want.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
To, and that's that's what's going to keep that household
and your relationship intact.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And for men too, do it because you love it.
Don't do it because you man.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
If I don't do this, this girl going blah blah blah,
do it because you love it. Do it because you
want to put a smile on her face and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You know, back on to Good Old Boys Forecast Media
Radio Network talking about man keeping. So Trump, You've alluded
to this multiple times throughout today's show, and I think
that the reality is if you look at the article,
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as Wiz has been like carving this article up, if
you look at the article, they try to make it
seem like, uh, you know, this is something that is
a bad thing, right, and they don't cider the fact that,
like good men often rely on a good woman to
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help them along in life. And it's almost like they're
trying to say that you're not supposed to help.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Each other get through life or something.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But it sounds to me like in your situation, it's
a give and take for both of you and it's
not truly her man keeping you. But you're doing your
part and she's just helping you along and she's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
No.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
I mean, don't get me wrong, especially when like that's
an adjustment that I've had to deal with. I'm still
trying to figure out because you know, being independent for
so long, like you sort of take it like, yo,
is this person controlling? Or I like, why is she
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continuously like telling me what to do? Or being bossy.
But then you look at it and it's like, yo,
she she's actually trying to help you, like she sees
that that there's areas where either you're deficient or you know,
you have a bad day, and you know it's this
person just trying to make sure that you are, you know,
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putting out the best version of yourself. So I think
it's like a it's like an ego check. You just
have to like not take offense and be be defensive
about a lot of stuff, and you know, just take
it as love, like this person is doing this out
of love, not not to control you, not to make
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you feel feel less than. And that's that's something I'm
still trying to figure out.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
And it's and it's a thin line between that one too,
like because with New Orleans So Crazy, your crazy Eyes,
it was a thin line. And again, trying to make
you a better man or person versus seeing seeing you
as a project. When it's continuous, that's when it becomes
the problem or you look at it like with dang
is there anything? As a man, you look at yourself like, well,
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hold on, you have to self evaluate like, okay, am
I not enough? So when it's coming at you continuously
like that from the woman, it may come off as
that that man keep you or trying to be controlling,
but as black Trump just stated, when it's reciprocated in
a way like hey, okay, I can see her point
of view, I can understand this angle, and again wanting
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to be a better person, taking that from her as
constructive criticism and making it happen because you want to
be in that relationship. And I've dated an older woman before,
back in the college days, old girl that y'all couldn't
look at. It was like I wanted to be a
better dude, but I was still in a young state.
So you know, I dropped the ball. I fumbled on
that one. But again I was wanting I was wanting
(34:54):
to be a better dude and the things that I
so I reciprocated a lot and just kind of looking
at what she quote unquote needed, but I wanted to
do it. I wasn't doing it because I had to.
I wanted to so that, like I said, that's that
thin line when you're dealing with the woman who's giving
you that criticism and trying to make you a better person,
not just for her, but for the relationship in yourself.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
So if y'all were to separate.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
You will still be better from the information you received
from that person. That's when you know you got a
good woman on you.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, where's you about to say something?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
No, I agree, I'm just listening. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Now, I do think that overall, like it seems like
you could call it what you want to call it,
But it sounds to me like this is like a relationship.
I don't think you need to.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Call it exactly exactly. That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
This sounds like a relationship to me. What are we
supposed to be doing?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And I think that the the thought process of calling
this man keeping is coming from place where the author
feels like they're not supposed to provide anything in a relationship.
Are you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah, I think it's deeper than that. Once again, it's
an example of stupid radical super liberalism.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I'm not going that far, but like, but I think
you know, like I mean, because before we went on
the air, I did say I thought that me and
you probably would go to be on the same page
with you know some of this said, I'd just say.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Consider the source, and I would say that about anything.
That's why I use the specific words super radical rights.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
And you have not said the actual publication that this
came from a Vogue article, And I guess you were
trying to like protect them so out sour.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I just forgot.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
But like I said, consider the source Vogue, Cosmopolitan, New Yorker.
They're all the same. Like I said, these are the
same people. I'm reading a new An article in twenty
twenty written by a thirty year old white man telling
me Tropic Thunder was racist to black people. And I'm
sitting there, like what, I had no idea I was
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supposed to be outraged over this.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
But if you think about it, man, a lot of
a lot of those those those articles, or those companies
or whatnot, they're they're doing the same thing what's being
done on the internet with trolling and trying to get,
you know, people to read the magazine and pick it
up like what to get that reaction and then have
us do this show about it and bring them up so.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
It works. It's just a cycle, man, It's.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Just yeah, that cycle has been going for like what
seventy years? They haven't They're selling it really well to me.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, all right, when we come back.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
We're going to talk.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
About solutions to this if there are necessary solutions to it.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
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Speaker 3 (37:58):
Back going to Good.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Old Boys for Gust Radio Network, and we're talking about mankeeping.
So I don't think that we need to fix this.
I think that this is what things should look like
in healthy relationships. As long as that man is doing
his part for you. Your job as a woman is
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to do your part for him, and you come together
and you have a great relationship.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Now, I do think that putting all of your emotional
burden onto your woman is a mistake. As too much
onto her. You shouldn't want to put all of that
on her.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Go outside, touch some grass, make some friends, and go
have a beer, go smoke a cigar, go do something
with somebody other than her.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
And waitmen, don't.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Don't don't try to have your your girlfriends, connect your
husband with my my friend or whatever. Don't stop doing
that because we don't need it. You know, that's that
high school stuff. Well, your man should be friends with
my man and leave that out alone.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
If let it happen naturally. Let men be men. We appreciate.
We don't care if the dude is cool. I ain't
trying to be friends. Well I mean, I'm not trying
to be friends.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
But again, I know how to move in a room
for you know, like with vultures, bro like like you know,
like what Trump was saying earlier, Like it's like I
can actually I can go talk to people and not
want to be your friend, but have a good time
which you and not want to do it every day
or every week. You know. I might find a minute
for you, but I might not go to that game,
you know, just because it's a big game or whatever.
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But I enjoy the friends that I have. But I
don't mind going to the bar. I've never asked. My
mom said, I've never met a stranger I met. I
met a sixty seven year old dude in Pennsylvania last
week and we had a thirty minute conversation in a
parking lot, just talking about music and stuff. Yeah, I'm
not gonna call him up when I go back through town,
but it was it was just that's who I am,
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you know. So everybody is different in that sense. Man,
you know, But do us do us cool for you,
stay in your laying and have fun and find somebody
that attracts that same type of energy as you.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
That's all I can say.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Well, my solution is very simple. It might not be.
You might not think it's for you at the moment.
That could change because because you know God, as they said,
God be changing people right. And my solution is Islam.
That's number one. Because in our culture, in all way
of life, we don't have these problems because we have
clearly defined roles and all of this stuff is taken
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care of. You know, I got to give a shout
out to this dude. I say that it might not
be for you right now, but that could change.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
You know Big Al his cousin died. First cousin just
got He died last week in rock Hill. He went
to high school with me, Randy Reeves, and he used
to actually pick on me because I wasn't eating pork.
He used to crack a lot of jokes about being
being Muslim. He became Muslim a year ago, and I
thought that was absolutely amazing. When I saw that, I
had to call Al and tell them. So I'll definitely
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be at the memorial service. But that's the solution, I
believe right now. If you don't want to do that,
here's what you do. You erase the word Islam and
don't look at it, but just take the principles from it,
and you know what you'll have. You'll have the same
thing that your grandparents and great grandparents head or you'll
have something very similar. So maybe if we get back
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to these fundamental principles. And I know what some people
are going to say, well, you don't read dad, it
was cheating, no remor. They always want to jump to
the extreme, when extreme examples, when they come against something
they don't like. So get back to what we call
these conservative principles, and I think what you'll find is
things are fitting a lot better because you're not outraged
(41:47):
and you're not railing or against something that just find
the way it is.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Yeah, I mean, I know I mentioned several episodes ago
that women want to finished products. They want they want
a product that they can see being crystalline, that even
if there's a few scratches on it, that they can
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refine it and sharpen it to the point where it
is indeed a finished product. But as men like we
don't we don't necessarily accept criticism easily or what we
think is criticism. We just have to look at it
for what it is. If this is a good woman
and her intentions are are pure, then take it with
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a grain of salt, like like, yeah, this is not healthy.
It's not good to be in the house by yourself
all the time and not acclimating yourself to different environments,
different people. But you just have to know when and
with whom to devote that time.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Correct. Yeah, well that's gonna wrap it up. It ain't
man keeping. It's called a relationship.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Just be in a relationship, have fun with each other,
and go have fun with aut each other from time
to time. So the emotional burden isn't on the man.
The emotional burden isn't on the woman. We do everything
you can to help each other out. That's the whole
point of creating a partnership.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
On talking about just dagg on, I'm gonna introvert, get
out the house, don't find somebody.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
We're gonna close with one of the songs that always
makes me think about my friendships and this is uh
r L for some reason case Genuide and Tyrese.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
Oh yeah, she's gonna say R Kelly.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
I don't know why r L is on this song,
but unfortunately the song is called the Best Man I
Can Be And
Speaker 5 (44:04):
We'll see you on the radio next week he'll be
out this funky thing.