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October 21, 2025 49 mins
In this candid and hilarious episode, The Good Ole Boys dive deep into one of the oldest questions in relationships — why do people cheat? Mario, Q Kittles, Black Trump, and Gran Wiz bring their unfiltered perspectives, mixing humor with hard truths about love, temptation, and loyalty. From real-life stories to cultural takes on modern relationships, the crew keeps it 100 while offering insights that’ll have you thinking — and laughing — about your own experiences.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
From Fairfact, South Carolina to be for North Mertle Beach,
New York City, Florence, Columbia back here and rock Hill,
South Carolina and Charlotte, North Carolina Metropolitan Area. We are
the Good Old Boys on the Forecast Media Radio Network
with the Mario Washington, Q.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Kittles, Black Trump, Grand Wiz.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's back in the house once more talking about that
actual factionals. Only the Good Old Boys know how to
bring it to you. Hey, So like on a series
note and I want to, I want to, I want
to hop into this matter of fact, you know, Trump,
if you want to go ahead and and talk about
it like uh, intent to happen in Betford man, like man,
we gotta we gotta do stuffing about Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
So over the weekend, Duford High and Battery Creek both
had oncoming and I'd say over the last five years
or so, they've been trying to make it similar to
how colleges celebrate by bringing back each of the classes
and having them compete to see who as the largest

(01:32):
turnout and who has the best tent and the best
food and things like that. So it's kind of growing
in popularity. I went back, I think four years ago
for to represent my class, but there was like a
lot of a lot of alumps back home this past

(01:52):
weekend and there was Partiesford High they had this Friday night.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Everything pretty much was cool.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Saturday night, Battery Creek had Theirs and there was an
after party on the island at Willie's.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Bar and Grill.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
So everyone that's ever been a Buford they always ask,
like where the club's at. But the thing is, every
time there's a club or a after our spot that
opens up in Beauford to get shot up and closed
in a matter of months. Willi's has been open for
a few years and I think there's only been like
one incident. But that changed Saturday night. So my cousin

(02:31):
was out there celebrating and all of a sudden, shots
rang out. They sounds like a machine gun. Hundreds of
people were just standing outside chilling. Twenty people were injured
for four killed, four in critical condition. And you know,
just from what I've been hearing from relatives that I've

(02:55):
spoken to, is gang related. But it's you know, like
Mario continues to mention every time something like this happens,
it's senseless and like guns have just become everyone's, everyone's
like favorite pet, Like they can't do without having a

(03:17):
gun under their possession. And you know, just shooting, they
didn't care who they is. They were just shooting into
the crowd. They had a target, but they didn't care,
Like you're guilty by association. If you were in the pathway,
you was gonna get hit too. So prayers up to
my hometown, Prays up to those that you know, or

(03:39):
morning right now, and those in recovery and those that
are mentally scarred from you know, bearing witness to the
the situation.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
How just wanted to like touch on, like Pop said,
man from Friday, Man, people they scared to use these man,
they you know, that's the thing with these young cats.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
And I was thinking that as well, Like.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
You feel a little shame, Mario, You and I have
spoken on you know what goes on in fair facts
and whatnot, and and it was like, I'm starting to
feel that it was at some point it was kind
of like an embarrassment to see that these young kids
are doing it in my community at home as well.
But it's not just in my community or your community
or beautiful or anywhere. At this point, it's across the board.

(04:20):
And like you said, bruh, something has to be done.
It's it's not just the fact that, yeah, these kids
don't have much to do like we did, because we
got into stuff too, but it was never to this extent.
You know, this was but when we was coming up,
this was just an l a thing, you know, and
they they settled it. But these gangs are just kind
of came across the country and like they're just doing

(04:42):
the repeat of what happened in the eighties. And I
don't understand it. You know, no disrespect that, none of
your sets. I don't want y'all coming after me, but
I don't understand the violence and what's what's what's the
cause of it ment or the root of it all.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I wanted I wanted to touch on it because, uh,
you know, since we've been doing this show Man like
we we the first words you hear from from us
is where we're from. And you know we love our hometowns.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
And you know, seeing stuff like that making like national
news the first thing you see when you wake up
on a on a Sunday warning and stuff.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Man, Like it's alarming, man. And we only see this type.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Of stuff like in Southern States, it seems, man like
where we have like the most relaxed gun laws. I
ain't never gonna say like we need to take people's guns,
you know what I'm saying, Like I think that you know,
we have the right to bear arms and all that
type of stuff, man, But if we need more responsible
gun ownership, dude, Like, you know, it's not the people
that are responsible gun owners that commit these like acts, man,

(05:47):
It's like it's because the bro the laws are so laxed.
You don't see this happening in New York City. Why
because they got super strict gun laws in New York City.
That does that mean that responsible people can't own guns
in New York City? No, you know what I'm saying,
but like it, but it makes.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
It you can't have a firearm in the city, period,
registered or not. You can't. You can't even hold one.
So that's what you're saying, and that's good. We have
the right to bear arms. But then now what needs
to take place with all of this, man, Like you said,
strict the laws need to be in place for for
those like if you, if you, if your gun has

(06:24):
been stolen, you haven't reported it immediately, and then all
of a sudden something happens with your gun, now it's
been stolen, or you need to go to jail too.
It needs to be stuff around this and the access
that these younger kids have to get in these guns
without going through the guidelines that are a person who
is doing it legally. Period.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's a black market out here, that black market.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
So I didn't I didn't know that it was in
New York that you can't hold a gun no matter what.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yes, yeah, like I'm a registered owner, I can carry
my I don't know if you need to go that.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Drive trucks, I can't.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
I can't, I can't drive.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
I can't carry my peace with me because sometimes I
go through New York, whether mine is registered to me
or not, legally, I cannot carry it on me when
I'm rid into that city or state. But it's it's
it's crazy, man.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
But I saw it so on yesterday and I was two,
twenty two year old, a thirty two year old, and
a fifty four year old. Yeah, I mean, and that's
one of the reasons I haven't been home a whole lot,
because like even on the street where I was raised,
you know, my uncle and my grandfather's homes, like we
would just be outside all day, just hanging out, sitting

(07:31):
under the pea the contree or you know, grabbing yellow
plums off the off the arm bush. But now it's like, nah,
my uncle's like, now we don't sit outside no more
because the youngins are just out there shooting for no reason.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah nah.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Like you know, man, when I when I'm in fair face, man,
I'm gonna still sit on that front porch, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Like, I mean, it's what I do, man, And like I.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Got my little drink and my little smoking me and
my cousins, we're gonna sit out there. And if somebody
comes by with acting reckless, probably not a good idea, uh,
because we got what you got.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
You got guys, guys, if they know that.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
But you know what I'm saying, you got to keep
your head on a swivel at all times. Man, It's
just right right.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah yeah, but press press to beaut for man, you
know what I'm saying. U But uh we we uh uh.
That's the smooth transition into what we're talking about this week.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
We're talking about why people cheat, man, and uh uh
and uh we'll get into it all when we come
back back on the Good Old Boys Forecast Media Radio Network.
We're talking about why people cheat. Didn't get into this
at all in the first segment because we had to

(08:50):
do our duty with a microphone, you know what I mean.
But we're talking about why people cheat. And it seems
to me, and I could be very wrong about this,
but it seems to me that most men cheat because
they're trying to boost the ego.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
And y'all disagree with that.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
I I don't think that's the biggest reason. I think
men cheat because they just want to.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
And I don't even think that's the only reason. It's
a reason still, yeah, yeah, definitely, Like I think it's
a lot to do with something, Like you say, it's
different characteristics in different people. It's always, you know, a reason,
not necessarily an excuse, but it's a reason. And everybody
has a root cause to what makes them do what
they do. At the end of the day, a lot

(09:39):
of people I know be happy and cool and just
do it because it's a conquest they bored, you know.
Just it's a thousand, you know, reasons, and some of
us can dictate those reasons as excuses. But you know,
some people got girlfriends, wives inside missus and all this
other stuff and and just be living and the happiest

(10:00):
of all lives and there don't be nothing wrong with
the one life that they supposed to be committed to,
you know. But some people feel like they're missing certain
things and it's just it's all kind of it's root
causes to it, man, and it's just a good thing
to kind of tap into and not throw anybody into
a box. Or why the last person cheated on you,
and this is why the other person is doing it

(10:21):
as well. So even that's for both sex. It's not
just with men. But you know all that girl, ain't
sheen about nothing?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
She was this, she was that. Well, no, that's what
your last one did.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Figure out what it is it's causing that person to
even feel like they have the need to before you get.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
To let's rewind. Uh maybe it's.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
That was the thing when guys were in high school
and college, true, that that that they wanted to They
wanted the ego boost. They wanted to be able to
tell other dudes, look what I did.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
I don't even think that like high school, maybe because
it's that locker room thing, man, But you know after
after high school, bro, I wasn't me personally, wasn't fascinated
with what other cats thought about what I was doing.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
You would hear him talking.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
It was more like you weren't but you went to
school with a whole bunch of dudes that were yeah,
yeah I saw.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
But but hey you can you can look at me
and give I didn't look at that praise. It's like, ah, yeah,
that dude. Hey look at he hollering because he all
you get all the girls. Okay, that's how you feel, bro.
But I wasn't necessarily getting all the girls. I might've
got a girl that you wanted because you ain't had
a courage to step up to it. But it wasn't
like I needed that validation to be I was just me.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
You know.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Throughout college and stuff, I was just being me. I
didn't need the validation from other folks to be oh man,
that dude be getting all of them. And you see
some guys who thrive off of that even at the winthrough.
You know what I'm saying, You know you, oh man,
that boy be boy. He'd be bagging them boy and
he'd be like, hey man, you know, you know, all
cool and humble. But maybe he needed that I did.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I don't see that.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
I don't see that as like two and two equals four.
I think it was more so guys just wanting to
put up numbers for the second putting up numbers. I
don't think it was tied to being in a relationship
and cheating needing that as an ego boost. It was
just those that just enjoyed, you know, putting on putting

(12:21):
up numbers, like like James Harden did four or five
years ago. So nah, I don't I don't think it was.
I don't think it's an ego boost as far as cheating.
It was just as far as getting as much play
as possible.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
It's like, do you at any point in time, do
you ever you guys recall sitting down with anybody and
going over your numbers with somebody else.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Like with dudes, I'm saying we didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
I'm saying no, But nobody goes around and doing Nobody
really goes around and publicizes the fact that they're cheating,
you know, because they want to have their cake and
eat it too. They want to continue to be with
the person they're cheat on while messing with other people.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
Well, I think both of I think you all may
be misinterpreting what the Mario Washington is saying. What the
article is saying is more so from the think about it.
From the perspective of a woman. The woman will cheat
on the man because another man is showing her some attention,
so it might be a boost to her ego that
makes her feel good. I usually see that from women,

(13:23):
but I think when it comes to men, the reason
men cheat is what I told miss Garrison when I
worked at Sears in two thousand and five. The only
thing better than vagina is new vagina. And that is
why men cheat on women. They just want some more vagina.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
I mean, if you're doing the law of averages with it,
I guess that's the case. But like me and Mario
has stated before. We ain't like the average cats, you know,
and it's just like it's just way more to it
than that, Like sometimes it ain't even I mean, I again,
I'm a man. I respect that that saying. You know,
I've heard it before, you know, so I respect the

(14:04):
game in that part.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
But it's just like, oh, maybe I should clarify I
meant that that is the most common reason that meant.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
She and I'm just going by like what the movie
Baby Boy, right all right, when they getting into the
argument and stuff and he tries to explain to her
after she she catches him doing something and and she

(14:31):
was like, you know why you're doing this, why you're
doing that? And he was like, I don't know, It's
just what I do basically, right, And I think that
that's way more common than then, Like, you know, we
we are willing to admit right now, apparently because I
think that if a dude gets caught up like that,
like he don't really have an answer other than it's

(14:52):
an ego stroke.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
But that whole that whole thing that's just what I
do is based off of again a root cause like
that guy was either her when he was younger or
gave his heart to some woman, and and and she
stomped it in the ground. And cats don't bounce back
that easily. From that isn't an excuse from some people,
and from some people's standpoint, yes, but it's a reason

(15:13):
to that man and why he moves that way because
he doesn't really he's not really giving his heart in
that sense. So it's just that's what he does because
he's not giving his heart over there. That sounds locking
down over here, but he's still not giving his heart
to you. If that's the case, that sounds like an
over analysis. What the Mario Washington just said is what
I said. They Jody did it just because it was

(15:35):
some new vagina. That's all it came down to. That's
the most common reason. There'll be other reasons, but that's
the most common.

Speaker 7 (15:42):
That's why a perfectly good man cheats on a perfectly
good woman just because he wanted some new vagina.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Now, you know, an older lady, older older, older lady
had told me this one day, long time ago. Man,
I was young man and I was super young, and
was she She knew I had I had like three girlfriends.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
I went, I wouldn't call them girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
But I had like three girls that I was talking
to or whatever, and she was like, you know that
they didn't stop making one when they made the first one, right,
I was what you're talking about, and she said, it's
all the same.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
That's a lot.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
That's a lot, you know, hours you know.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
I know a lot of people to make red velvet cake.
But hey, it's just certain ones. It's gonna stand out.
Bro Like, get out of here with that. And that's
the reason why why cat's chasing the cat and for
that very reason right there, because it's different ones out there,
bro Like.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
It's just like I had. That was the old face
lot that lady told you.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
I got three different bean pies in my freezer. Now
I only needed one, but the other two became available,
so I said, well, I'll just try these, just because
I wanted a more bean pie.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Jay Cole said it on one of his raps. Man.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
He said, even when the baker bake like you, even
when the flavor don't taste like you. You know, it's
so he's back mobbing with the Late night crew. It's
just like Jody said, it's just what he do.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
You know. Sometimes it's just it's.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Somebody got a different flavor over there, and that's just
the only reason the cat is doing it.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Bro Uh, well, we're going to talk about when you're
sexually unsatisfied and looking for excitement.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Maybe that is the reasoning for why people.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Cheat boys Forecast media radio.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Now I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 (17:39):
He's laughing us.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
My wife just walked by and I told her to
sit down and listen to why I'm about to cheat
on you.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
That's clarity, That's that's where the conversation starts.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Where is we having these conversations because he was talking
about his second wife, not even the fourth one.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
And that's why I don't ever have to cheat.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, bottom shack explaining it to everybody else.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
So we're talking about why people cheat, all right.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Some people find themselves sexually unsatisfied and looking for excitement.
And this is something that I do see this in
media and in the real world that a lot of women,
this is what leads them sometimes to step out man
when they are like just not satisfied because for whatever reason,

(18:31):
the match and energy biologically isn't there. Because men reach
their sexual peak at such a young age and women
reach theirs at such an older age, and sometimes they
need like somebody else to scratch that itch.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
Man.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
Hey, an older cat told me one time. Man, I
was just chopping it up with an older friend of
mine and he was like, as a man, sometimes you're
it's like he's saying that energy, but as a woman,
don't know what she's doing point blank period. And as
many because we reached our peaks earlier, we have to
coach and guide and some cats don't have that patience

(19:11):
to teach you what you need to be doing. Now
I can communicate it to you, but I you know,
it's it's easier to go out and find someone who's
already versed you know what I'm saying, and know what
they're doing. It into that where that energy matches and
you're that excitement is still there. Like I was talking
with someone else and it was just saying like we were

(19:33):
talking about like the fun girl versus you know, just
doing it and just having to settle down. And it's
like when you're when you're with someone, it's kind of
like that anxiety is building up, like you're on a
date for the first time, and it's like, is she
gonna think I'm weird for doing this? Is she gonna
look at me differently. If I do this, you have
all of these extra thoughts.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Running through your mind.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
When you're with the quote unquote fun girl, it's it's
like you can have a drink, you can chill, but
you already know how the night is ending. Both of
you are already on the same page. And it's like,
at the end of the day, if couples can just
stop overthinking it when it comes to that aspect of
the relationship, that part of the relationship would be so

(20:13):
much more better instead of overthinking things.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Why you can't just break up with him though, because
I know that, I know, I know, I know Trump
you know, talked about this before about when when when
somebody was just trash and he just had to let
it go.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
But but that's that's that's and I feel you.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
But that's that's that's where that that that L word
comes in when you're in love with somebody and it's
like you try to you try to work past that.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
But was the guy the meme.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Or whatever when the dude said, uh, the girl asked him,
why did why do you love me? How do you know?
How do you know you love me? And he was like,
you don't want to know the answer to that. And
she said, no, I want to do I want to
know why do you love me? And he was like, listen,
you know I'm straightforward. I don't think you want to
know this answer. And she said tell me. He said,
cause your cause because your sex is trash. That's what

(21:01):
he told the lady. He said, your sex is trash.
And I know I love you because I'm still here
with you. It's like, sometimes you do things because you're
in love and you don't want to seem that shallow
to just say, Okay, I'm leaving her because of that.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
But if you a guy that is just looking for that,
like like Trump, just dip.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
If you need something to be a little more better,
and you're not trying to build and teach, then you dip.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Bro what you did? Trump?

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Just No, that's not what I did.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
I think.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I think you have to evaluate the whole whole picture,
the whole landscape. If if the nook is trash, but
she has a whole lot of other positives, checks a
lot of other boxes, or is uh just brings more
to the table than the other ones that you're dealing with,
then either you can put up with you know less

(21:51):
than stellar performances or having to teach, you know, but
if if that's all she was bringing to the table
was trash box, and that was a no brainer than me,
Like you had to go. And then she was long
distance too, so I mean, like, what was the point
hours hours every day?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Huh?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
You had to talk to her every day.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
I'm just saying, you know how it is a long
distance situations. They want to exhaust a lot of your
free time just talking about what you did today and
a bunch of other bs. That gets redundant.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
And then when you see her every other weekend and
it's just a regular pound cake with no icing.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Oh I do.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
Number two must be for wins because I've never seen
this from me.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
You're sexually unsatisfied. You've never been sexually.

Speaker 8 (22:49):
Seen guys do that.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
No, I said, cheating on your mate because you're sexually unsatisfied.
I've never seen a woman do that in real life.
We women typically real life that I've seen cheats on
a man.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
Correct. What I've seen in real life.

Speaker 7 (23:05):
Is a woman cheating on a man because she is
emotionally unsatisfied.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, well, we will get to that in a moment.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
But I have definitely seen women she don't choose because
they were sexually unsatisfied. Yeah yeah, like uh, no comments, but.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
But it could be it could be the same, the
same example I just laid out. From my perspective, to me,
it applies even more to a woman because if they're
with the man that is like doing good or they
they're like so successful they don't even have time to
put their best foot forward in the bedroom.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Then they get bored. Then the girl gets bored.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
And you know, finds finds a jigglow on the side through.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
The fool guy or whatever, just to to scratch that itch,
you know.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
So before too, I mean specifically, yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
M hmm.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Never seen that from married women.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
But see in your community like that, don't that don't happen? Man,
Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
But I just think that, like, let me tell you something, man, honestly,
dog like, it's a whole lot of merit women.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Out here that that you will never know.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
You will never know because they're really good at hiding
the fact that this is happening.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Man.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
But this be happening, man.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Yeah, Like like Trump said, it's just they're weighing out
their options, and it makes more sense to stay where
they are.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
It's a comfort thing.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
And but it's just that one thing that they would
feel at the end of the day, like you say,
looking at the deeper root of things, they would feel
shallow for saying that's the reason they're filing for divorce
or you can't even file for divorce in that sense,
I don't think right there.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
And they wouldn't because you know, like typically the man
they're sticking around because the man is doing everything else
that is needed in a relationship except for that, and
and and it may have worked out fine when they
were in their twenties, you know what I'm saying, she
didn't care us, But now she's in her forties and fifties,

(25:11):
and it's like, wait a minute, Like I didn't I
need more than this?

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Yeah, But the thing like with some of those women, bro,
it'd be like it'd be that woman who want the
guy who can give it to a little bit more
on a regular basis. But that guy the only reason
he can give it to you on a regular basis
because he doesn't have a job, He ain't about nothing,
no ambition, you know, So they gotta they gotta put
all of that on the lever scale, bro and figure
things out. But again, hey, like what a what a

(25:35):
Bernie Max say? Rested soul? He say, Hey, a heavyweight battle.
It's only three minutes what I'm in their bedroom all
day for?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
You know what I'm saying. But you know, do what
you can do, man, and knock it out and get gone. Bro.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Uh, We're gonna come back and talk about what Wiz
was talking about, how women are feeling emotionally neglected and
that's when they might step about.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Tacking to go to boys.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Forecast Media Radio Network D Mario're watching the Ghettos Black
FROMP and Grand where talking about.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
What leads people to cheating.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Now, whereas you brought it up in the last segment
about how most of the time when you see that
women decide to step out, it's because they're feeling emotionally black.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
Yeah, that's what I've seen most of the time.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
When well, really that's what I've seen every time where
that I can recall of a woman cheating on a
man in real life, especially when it came to a
married couple. The man was not satisfying her emotionally, maybe
he changed, maybe he was working so much that he
was neglecting her. Emotional needs. He wasn't communicating or something.
But most of the time, for me, it's always been

(26:53):
emotional because women seem like they will hang in there
and stick it out because they fall in love with
men for things that are not physical, whereas men typically
lead with the physical. The woman is with a big,
fat dude because he's charming or he makes her laugh
or something like that. I usually see a lesser attractive

(27:16):
dude with a better looking woman than I do, a
lesser attractive woman than a better looking man. So for
the women, it seems to be emotionally based.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I actually saw something this weekend what people were talking about.
It was an article I read and they were talking
about this lavender marriage, and I'm like, what in the
world is a lavender marriage?

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Have y'all heard of this?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (27:40):
On the Rainbow Bridge show with.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
So a lavender marriage is when somebody is attracted to
the same sex but then they decide to get into
a heterosexual marriage.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
But but you know.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
It's for the show or they that's just the thing
they are.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
They are attracted to someone, but they're needing to put
on the show for the parents or something like that.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Really for a show. But but basically for like, like
the all the good things that come with being married
to somebody.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, I think, but stay in age.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
You can marry somebody of the same sex in certain states.
So what is I don't know. I just I just
hate all these titles and everything people want to put
on stuff.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
I think jk Rowling That's what jk Rowling did. And
then when he went on the Oprah Show he talked
about it. You called it just being on the download.
Wasn't that the dude that was talking to Oprah and
talking about being on the down low?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Jk Rowling is the author, the author of Harry Potter.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
Well, who am I talking about? Wasn't his name?

Speaker 7 (28:53):
You don't remember the episode of Oprah when the phrase
first came.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Out you're talking about You're talking about the dude. Uh?
That was that Terry Terry macmillan based. Uh. I still
have got a groove back on.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
An episode where everybody started talking about down low brothers.

Speaker 8 (29:10):
The dude was was was? I thought it was? JK Rowling?
Was his name?

Speaker 7 (29:14):
And he went out and said he was on a
down load, married to a woman, but he was really gay.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
It came out on Oprah.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
We actually talked about it on this show in the
early years, so I.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Must have the name room.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, you definitely do.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
I mean again, if you if you if you bisexual,
then that's your business. And if you want to have
kids and all of that, then again that's your business.
No judgment here, but I just hate the titles and
the labels that they was lavender. It's just okay if
your partner agrees to that and you still want to
go have fun occasionally with another person of the same sex.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Thing.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I brought it up because, like I think that it
shows like just how how strong the pool of of
a partnership like that is. You know what I mean,
you you would like neglect to an extent your your
old actual like uh desires specifically for.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
The societal norm of being in a heterosexual marriage.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Yeah, because that's only within us, the Homo sapiens out
here to come up with these little rules and stuff. Man,
Like it's just in the animal kingdom. I think you
and I were talking about that before, Mario, just like
that that rule.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Isn't out in the jungle.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
In this mating season, the animals mate with who's who's
who's more flamboyant or who's giving off that signal or whatever,
you know, and it's just we make up all of
these rules to try to abide bidens against our natural nature.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, now I do think that. I don't I don't
know if we wouldn't say that men are emotionally neglected
in a relationship, but I think that's happening as well.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
And and and men won't they won't.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
They won't call it that because that appears soft, right,
But I think that like when you hear dudes talk
like if you if you see a dude and he's
out here doing whatever and stuff like that, and he'll say,
man like, you know, she ain't doing this, and she
ain't doing that. What he's really saying is that she's
not meeting my needs emotionally.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Yeah, I think it's necessary, especially when you've been with
someone for years, you have to have that emotional connection
in order to continue to want to have sex with
them because otherwise, like you're gonna get tired of that
and definitely run off and want to smash something.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
It's so serious, man like, I ain't gonna call my
uncle out, but one of them, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
We always joke and stuff.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
He's like, uh, it's that manly thing and it's like, man,
I put my foot down real quick and then all right, baby,
I'm coming baby.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
It's like, when you're in that committed relationship, you you
have to at some point connect with that feemine, that
feminine energy to help them, you know, let them feel
like you're connecting with them emotionally. Even though as men
that's just we don't necessarily tap into that on a
regular basis because we we we got to ask what
the Locke say that homeboy love. We know how to

(32:15):
connect with our brother and it's not all girly girly,
but when you with a female and that's your partner,
sometimes you just got to tap into that and be
a little more sensitive and about how you.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Go with things, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
So it's just it's a it's a it's a balance
in that and a lot of us struggle with that.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
It also is what prevents dudes from stepping out. Yeah,
because because if you remember what what TC said to
uh Martin on Thin Line.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
UHC from Chocolate the City.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Yeah, and uh.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
But TC said, you know, like uh you try to
say I ain't the man, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
I used to be the man, but you know, it's
every day I'll see something that like you know why,
I like, you know what I mean, but I don't
want to mess up what I got.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Yeah, because it's a difference in looking at acknowledging beauty
and pursuing it, you know, And the women don't understand
that sometimes like that, it's a lot that we do
when we decide to be with somebody, not necessarily saying
we're giving up the streets or giving up everything that
we did. It's just I'm committing to you. And that
don't mean that I have to stop being me, you know,

(33:24):
I just have to stop the pursuing of it all.
And that's that's the thing. Like you said that in
that that scene you're referring to, Like, bro, I'm still
the man. It's just I see something every day that
I wouldn't mind, but I'm not pursuing that.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
And then he got to go fly Higgins around in
the helicopter.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
Sounds gay, but his name was J. L.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
King.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
In the two thousand and four episode of Oprah, when
he came up and talked about download men J. L.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
King black dude ahead of him.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't remember him either, but
I recall that timeframe, bro. And again, the whole situation
around that was those guys were flamboyantly out there and gay.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
And didn't want to be with the woman. But we're
being with a woman.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
To create the facade that they're not gay, and that
was the issue. Be who you are, you know, and
do what you're gonna do, but don't don't go marry
this person, knowing good and well, you don't even want
to be with this person because you are gay. That's
my issue with that. So that that Lavender situation, I
can dig it. I don't like the name and labeling,

(34:33):
but I understand that thing.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
He's a situation like that. No everybody knows what's up,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
It's an assumption though, that's an assumption in what we see.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
But the dude he's talking about like, I'm assuming that
his partner didn't know.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Yeah that download stuff, Yeah he didn't. Nobody knows. That's yeah,
that's not what the situation is.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Nah.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
That's why I say I agree with the lavender thing.
It's not the labeling.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Of it. That's that's that's because everybody's on this page is.

Speaker 8 (35:01):
A nice color.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
But I do completely understand the emotional attachment that you
might have and keeping you in place. You know that
that makes perfect sense.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's the only thing that
will keep.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
You there necessary, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, So all right, we're gonna come back and we're
gonna talk about how you want to avoid being vulnerable
and you want to blow things up in a way.
Back on the Goodle Boys Forecast Media Radio Network, we're
talking about why people cheat. So uh we we've talked
about this before on this program. In a way sometimes

(35:42):
like you wanna, you wanna, you wanna you want to
like create some chaos, maybe not necessarily like wanting to
leave the relationship just yet, but you want to create
the chaos. You wanna you wanna like blow some stuff
up because you don't wanna you don't want to show
your vulnerability and you're unhappy with the way that the
relationship is going, and this will create chaos to help

(36:06):
push things along a little bit if you do stuff out.

Speaker 8 (36:10):
Yeah, I can relate to that. I've done that before.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
I did that with hula hoops and a cheerio, because
I didn't want to be there in the first place,
and I did feel the need to create some chaos
and to avoid having to be fully vulnerable because that's
what's required of the boyfriend in the relationship. Considering I
didn't even want to be in a relationship, purposely creating

(36:33):
chaos and making it feel with havoc was perfect for me.

Speaker 8 (36:37):
That played right up my alley.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Listen, the chaos comes, like an old friend of mine
once said to my like, I.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Like the sabotage, but it's just that sabotage.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Comes in when you have this assumption of what you
think has taken place, and because I've been in that
situation before, if that's what you think, well let me
show you that in And that was my mentality for
a long time. Let me show you then. So it
was it was excuse me, It wasn't like, you know,
the sabotage was basically because I already know how that

(37:11):
story is going to end, So let me push, let
me push the envelope, give you what you're looking for.
And I already know what happens at the end.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Of this story.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
I read the book already it's nothing new under the sun.
So let me go ahead and push that instead of saying,
I don't want to be with you anymore. Okay, let
me give you what you're looking for. And if that's
the way to get out of this and get you
out of my life, then I'll wipe my hands and
be done and we don't have to discuss the thing anymore.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Trump, is that being childish? Like that?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Sud Should we just open up and say, listen, these
are things that I don't like.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Hold on before you answer that. Before you answer that,
let me let me ask you this.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
So when you say these, when you when you mention
it to this person, and then they still coming at
you with the assumptions, and it's not no resolve has
come from that when you've brought it up to their
t like okay, the lack of sex or whatever the
issues may be, and they deny that and you continue
with what I just previously said.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
But go ahead, Trump, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah, I mean, you can label as childish and just
you know, make it knowing like y'all, I don't want
you anymore. But as we've said time and time again,
a lot of times, the truth hurts and that leads
to even more issues like either they don't accept it,
or or they're gonna be like I'll try, or or
you can't even get out of the situation. Like some

(38:33):
people are in a situation but they're unhappy. They make
it known they're unhappy, but they can't go nowhere. That's
the person won't move out the apartment.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
That's all right, So why not? So why not just
push that envelope?

Speaker 6 (38:45):
Why not just push the envelope then give you exactly
what you're already thinking, and everybody leave everybody alone, so
you ain't gotta have no discussion.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Like that, that is being vulnerable, and that's telling somebody
like you know what's up.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
But it's clear that they're not happy, you're not happy,
but they they want to put assumptions on you instead
of having an adult conversation about it.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
All right, So that's not what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
What you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Then, I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
About the unwillingness to say any of that. Then you
don't want to say any of that, so you just
go out and do whatever you want to do.

Speaker 6 (39:22):
But I'm saying you have said this, and it's like
talking to a brick wall. So okay, you if you
don't want to hear what's being said, then I'll give
you what you're looking for. Let's not play the game
and just keep it moving. Situation is resolved.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
But I'll say my personal situations where I did wrong
a lot of times it was it wasn't with the
person I was in a relationship with. It was with
the side piece because the side piece was getting feelings
and then I had to you know, kind of.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Lay at the conversation.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Remind her what this situation is because they're losing sight
of the fact that this is just, you know, a
physical thing.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Well, and I do think that, like, uh, that happens,
and and and and that makes it difficult when when
when when when somebody starts like misinterpreting what their role.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Is, and and and and.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Even but but but I think that you guys are
talking about actually showing the vulnerability and being open, and
people aren't accepting your openness.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Because they already have a storyline set up in their heads.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
So it's like, Okay, I'm talking about people that are
unwilling to be open and.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
In those situations though, like especially it depends on what
that person is looking for. If they're looking for they
see your husband in you and and you're showing them
the other side, then they're gonna end up leaving on
their own.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
But sometimes there's a lot of women say change them.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Yeah, that was that was That was New Orleans right there,
trying to make me out to be something that that
she saw her She's like, oh, I'm gonna fix him
up or thought I was a fixer rupper in her eyes,
And it's just like, Yo, you're not accepting who I
am and what I'm bringing to the table and what
I'm capable of doing. You had this your whole, your
whole idea of what I should be in your head
without discussing with me or talking and connecting.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
So you miss out on that one.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
What are some alternatives to playing this game of creating
havoc and cheating on the person just to get out
of the relationship.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Continuing to have people on the bench, And yeah, that's
that's what I did. It was like, well the whole time,
I'm like not being vulnerable with you, I'm kind of
being vulnerable with somebody else to get them something.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
Yeah, So actually conversing with the person and explaining that
you're unhappy.

Speaker 8 (42:01):
And here's why. It's just not an option.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
No, it is.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
It is an option.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
But but what they're saying is that sometimes people don't
want to hear the truth and and then then you
end up having to blow things up.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Anyway, Well, we all start off being vulnerable in order
to pull them, but then we stop being vulnerable, and
then that's when you start butting heads.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
I ain't never been vulnerable.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
I've always I've always like people always say like you
changed or you this, and you like, I've always been
the same cat from the gate, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
But again, when you have.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
A story in your head or what you think it
should be, or you have differences and not willing to
accept somebody else's views and how they go about things
or how they were raised, that's where the conflict comes
into most relationships. You got to try to understand your
partner at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
The reality is, I think that a lot of a
lot of people want their idea of a person to say,
as opposed to like listening to what they're actually telling you.
That and and I was say this, you know, I've
I've learned this over the years.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Man, People don't want to know what you're actually thinking.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
Man.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
They want you to agree with them that part, and
and and what you have to decide to do is
agree or not.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
And you can't even agree or disagree though more you
just be like just shake your head, be like I
feel you on that.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Like you see it a lot in media and stuff
from like the seventies in the eighties and the nineties,
where like it like like the movie Dad Presidents, the
dad like barely talks in the whole movie, and when
the mom was real mad when Anthony said that he
was going to the military, like the dad ain't said nothing.
And then Anthony explained to the dad, what's up. And

(43:39):
then he said, I'll talk to you a mom, because
it was it was no talking to her at that point.
He was gonna have to like bring it to another
time and everything. But he was quiet the whole time,
never like saying anything to her.

Speaker 6 (43:52):
Take your battles, man, it's not it's not a loss.
You just gotta be like, you know what, I'm not
even gonna have this conversation.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
But that's that's hard.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
For us, you know, because it's like we feel like
we logical beings man, and we try to speak and
make sense and find resolve, but when, like you said,
you're constantly hitting a brick wall, it's like deep breath.
You know this, this is not going anywhere anymore. So
I'm not gonna say nothing about it.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
Think your sense doesn't really matter with her.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah, we're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about
when you're just looking for an easy way out of
the relationship or the full left version of the Good
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check us out on pushplaypods dot com. Back on to
go to wars Forecast Media Radio Network. So we're talking

(44:37):
about why people cheat, and we kind of touched on
it a little bit. But sometimes you know that that's
the ultimate betrayal, and that's going to end the relationship
that you're wanting to get out of in the first place.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
When all else fails. You know where the exit door is.
You know how to get out the movie theater when
somebody yells fired. Don't you well that when that relationship
start burning up, bro, you you already know how to
get on up out of there.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
You know what to do.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
But so so so, why is it that people can't
just leave the relationship before it comes to like somebody
you need that type of closure.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, sometimes the fire extinguishers aren't right there available, Bro.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
You need to be You need to be at the
Coldplay concert on the jumbo tron and another woman. You
gotta you gotta make it dramatic, dramatic accent.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Why why is it so hard to leave a failed relationship?
It's a failed relationship? Why is it so hard to leave?

Speaker 6 (45:36):
Because there are still there, there are good moments in it, man,
and nobody wants to Nobody really wants.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
To say, man, this this we failed.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
But but if you know it's failing, it's easier for
it to be like, okay, let me this is why
it failed and leave it at that instead of saying,
you know, we just called it quits, you know, like
it it's always And I've been in one where I've
actually been an adult about it, like it's just not working.
We're not seeing out of eye, you know what I'm saying.
But I was still the more. I was the one
pushing that.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
That's rare when people can just walk away like something
has to happen for most people, instead of just being
able to say, look like this, this is.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
It it's not working, like I'm unhappy.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
Well, it wasn't that I was unhappy. It was more
so in my situation. It was just she was pushing
for Again, I wasn't comfortable in my skin when I
first got to the city, so I'm trying to get
my feet wet, understand how the city works. And this
person just wanted to go out, just wanted to travel
and do a whole bunch of stuff. And I wasn't
feeling manly, like where I couldn't even leave a tip

(46:39):
where we're going out to eat, couldn't put.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Gas in the car while we traveling.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
I'm just trying to get established in my own you
know what I'm saying, from moving from home to a
new city and just trying to get my feet wet
and understand that part. So it was more so of like, okay, look,
I understand what you're looking for, and clearly I'm not it.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I know you happy. We had fun and all of that,
and we're cool now.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
You know, we speak occasionally, but it's like that that
just wasn't working for us because I wasn't established. She was,
And me and another friend had that conversation as well,
like sometimes we don't because we are men and we
want to be you know, setting our own and not
be dependent on nobody or be that bum dude. We
try to get our stuff together instead of going for

(47:21):
somebody who's well established and have them talking junk about
us because oh, we're not where we need to be.
And my female friend was like, yo, like you, you know,
you probably missed out on some opportunities because of that
way of thinking. I said, you may be right, but
at the end of the day, I have to be
happy with myself and how I'm moving. So but she

(47:41):
was absolutely right, like I could have got with an
individual and you know, we could have built something in
that sense, you know. But the way I was thinking
was like, yo, I'm not in a position to say
that I'm equally yoked with you as the as the
religious people.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Say, uh, whereas you think that's the wrong way to
break up with somebody by like getting caught.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
Yeah, it's definitely the wrong way. But based on what
some of you all have said in your failure loser relationships,
that might have been the only way out. I would
still say, you know, just be honest with the person
that let them know what's going on. I feel like
you can still get out that way, and I actually
see more cases of people taking the super easy route

(48:24):
of immediately running.

Speaker 8 (48:25):
From the failed relationship.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
You all were talking about, why is it so hard
to leave a failed relationship? It doesn't look that hard
from what I see. People get divorced for the most
frivolous of reasons.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Sometimes I don't think you get the whole story. I
think there's a whole lot more that they're not publicizing
which leads to the divorce. But I also feel like
why it's so difficult to end the relationship is because
a lot of times people don't know what they want,
so they're still trying to figure that out. What they

(48:58):
wanted a partner, what they what what they need from
a partner. And and then even after they break up
with the person and they realized like, oh I made
a mistake, didn't know what I wanted, it was wrong,
they're not.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Well, but that's gonna wrap it up, man, And we
will see you on the radio next week.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
We outd this funky thing.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
If you want to leave, go ahead and leave.
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