November 15, 2023 • 48 mins
Does Benjamin Netanyahu Care About Israeli Hostages ??? It has recently been announced that Hamas has been saying they would release about 50-70 Hostages in exchange for a 5 day cease fire. Why hasn't Benjamin Netanyahu moved on this ? Learn about this and more in this episode ...
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and the dms, reshares and allof that that good stuff. So today
should be a quick episode. Justwant to touch on three different things and
then we'll go ahead and wrap itup. So I'm going to be talking
about first this lawsuit. We havea pal Steadian organization that's going to be
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suing Biden and a couple of othermembers of Biden's cabinet based off of what
they're saying is neglect. And we'regoing to read the article in some of
the complaints, but the gist ofit is that they're saying that Biden failed
to protect them on the international lawbecause they should have been stopping it's their
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responsibility on the international law to stopIsrael from committing the war crimes that they've
been committing. Then we're going totalk about the hostage hostage negotiation. And
I play some of the clips onthe last EPISOD, So we were talking
about the hostage negotiation situation. AndI certainly don't believe that Prime Minister that
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in Yahoo is doing all that hecan to get the hostages back, and
he seems to me, and we'regoing to get into it more to be
more concerned about pushing his line andkeeping the war going. And he may
have his own personal agenda in termsof why he's keeping the war going,
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because he has a lot of stuffgoing on internally on the domestic front in
Israel where you got fraud cases andall that kind of stuff going on with
him over there, and so himpushing his line like that, I don't
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know. So I want to goahead and get into it. Let me
see if I can pull up thefirst article, and this is over at
the Guardian and it's called US RightsGroups sues Biden for alleged failure to prevent
genocide and Gaza complaint on behalf ofPalaestinian groups and individual allegs Israel's actions amounted
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genocide. A New York civil libertiesgroup is suing Joe Biden for allegedly Sorry,
guys, let me give a creditto the the author of the article,
Chris mcguil, a New York civilliberties group issuing Joe Biden for allegedly
failing in his duty under international andUS laws to prevent Israel committing genocide and
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gaza. The Center of Constitutional RightsCCR complaint on behalf of several Palestinian groups
and individuals, allegens that Israel's actions, including mass killings, the targeting of
civilian infrastructure, and force explosion,amount of genocide. The CCR said that
the nineteen forty eight Convention against Genociderequires the US and other countries to use
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their power and influence to stop killing. What's interesting about this citing the nineteen
forty eight Convention is that nineteen fortyeight is also the year that Israel was
established as a country. Continuing onwith the article, though as Israel's closest
ally and strongest supporter, being itsbiggest provider of military assistance by a large
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margin, and with Israel being thelargest cumulative recipient of US foreign assistance since
World War Two, the United Stateshas the means available to have a deterrent
effect on Israeli officials now pursuing genocidalacts against the Palestinian people and gods of
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The complaint argue lawsuit filed in Federalcourt on in California, acts the court
to bar the US from providing weapons, money, and diplomatic support to Israel.
It also seeks a declaration that PresidentBiden, the Secretary of State Anthony
Blancol, and the Defense Secretary LoydAustin are required to take all measures within
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their power to prevent Israel's commission ofgenocidal acts against the Palestinian people of Gaza.
These include pressing Israel to end thebombing of Gaza, to lift the
siege of the territory, and toprevent forcible expulsions of Palestinians. I'm going
to also say that this needs toinclude what's happening in the West Bank,
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and if my listeners out there don'tknow that basically the land that the Palestinians
actually have over there has been dividedinto two parts, and they're not actually
even alowed to travel to these twoareas. So if you have they have
the West Bank and they have Gaza, so and those territories were separated.
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So just imagine. I've heard storieswhere let's say a brother lives in the
in the uh in Gaza and asister lives in West Bank, and you
can't travel to the other one unlessyou get some type of Israeli permission,
which wasn't really given out a lot, So you can't really get back and
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forth to the other, to theother places, see your relatives. And
there was a story that I heardwhen the bombing first started taking place that
basically there was a guy he livedin Gaza, I want to say,
and his family was in the WestBank and he hadn't seen his sister in
over thirty years and she was killedin in the bombing, you know,
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or vice versa. Maybe he livedin the West Bank and his sister was
killed in the bombing in Gaza.Either way, they can't get back and
forth to the other. They don'thave a right to travel freely. You
got people in the West Bank whohave never seen the ocean. You know,
because there's no ocean on that side. I think the West Bank is
near the Jordan River, is likethe west bank of the Jordan River,
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so they have a river, butthey don't have any access to the ocean.
Israel doesn't allow them to have anytype of a port in Gaza.
They don't have control over that oil. Of course, we just know.
We know that they recently found trillionsof dollars worth of oil reserves that could
completely change the economic situation for thepeople of Gaza, but of course they
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haven't been allowed to tap into it. And we're going to be covering that
more in future episodes as well.But I think that this protection that they
are asking for for the people ofGaza needs to be extended to the West
Bank as well, because a lotof what's happening is Israel is building a
lot of settlements there, and thesettlements that they're building there, of course
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there's cars and clashes because they're kickingthe Palestinians off their land and just building.
You know, like we're here now, and we know where we've seen
that before in history, where there'sa slow process of taking the people's land.
It doesn't all happen in one night, that a chunk of it may
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happen, but we see with theformation of the United States that they didn't
completely rid itself of Indian territories allin one night. You had situations that
looked very much like the trailer tearswhen you see the people fleeing from North
Gaza to southern Gaza, a lotof them walking because they don't have oil
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to drive cars to walk in,and donkeys and carts and being forced out
of their homes, and it's notcertain that they're going to ever be ever
going to be able to return.And it looks doubtful with how much your
land has been adnext from them,that they won't lose a single inch of
land in this military excursion. TheCCR, which won a landmark case in
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the US Supreme Court in two thousandand four establishing the rights of prisoners held
by US military at the Gutonamo Bayprison camp, said that Hamas cross border
attack on October seventh, seventh,in which about twelve hundred people were killed
and more than two hundred abducted,does not provide a legal justification for the
scale of Israel's assault on Gaza,which has killed more than eleven thousand Palestinians,
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including forty six hundred children, anddisplaced one point five million people.
The lawsuit comes as the International CriminalCourt investigates Israel and Hamas for alleged war
crimes, but legal scholars say thatgenocide is a harder crime to prove,
and questions whether the President can beforced to find that Israel is committing genocide
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and is therefore under an obligation toact. President Bill Clinton refused to recognize
the systematic murder of eight hundred thousandTwopsis in Rwanda in nineteen ninety four as
genocide in order to side step thelegal obligation to intervene. He later apologized
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to the rwarding people. That's crazy. I'm gonna just read that twice and
I'm gonna just leave it there.I don't even need the comment on that,
but I'm gonna just read it twiceso you can hear it again.
President Bill Clinton refused to recognize thesystematic murder of eight hundred thousand Tutsis in
Rwanda in nineteen ninety four as agenocide in order to side step the legal
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obligation to intervene. He later apologizedto the rewarding people. So we have
a historic president here in which there'ssomething that happened that's obviously a genocide.
There was a whole movie called HotelRwanda that was made about the genocide of
the Tutsi people, and it lookslike Bill Clinton was able to just side
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step that joint. You know withit, Lord Wayne say recently, you
don't got to step aside get sidestep. He was able to side step
the international law for the murder ofeight hundred thousand Africans, which is crazy.
So we know for sure right nowthe count is not at eight hundred
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thousand Palestinians, but over eleven thousandis the numbers that have come in from
the Palestinian side, which is stilla lot of people. It's still too
many, and the majority of themare women and children and are no threat
to the IDF or Israel, etc. The nineteen forty eight Convention, written
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in the wake of the Holocaust,defines genocide as the intent to destroy,
in whole or part a national,ethical, racial, or religious group.
As such, the Convention's first articlerequires signatories, which include the US,
to prevent and to punish genocide.The lawsuit list a series of actions taken
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by Israel that the CCR said amountto genocide against the Palestinian people. These
include the scale of civilian deaths,systematic collective punishment, and deprivation of the
most basic necessities of life. Thegroup said that the Israeli order. The
group said that the Israeli order formore than one million Palestinians to leave their
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homes in Gaza, alongside the languageused by Israeli political and military leaders,
amounted to the call for genocide.The lawsuit noted Benjamin and Yahu's quoting of
Deuteronomy and we talked about this,and I'm about to read the quote,
but we talked about I did anepisode where I talked about Benjamin and Yahoo
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quoting a passage from the scripture thatbasically just said kill everybody. And yeah,
I mean that's crazy then, ofcourse, forcibly moving these people from
from their homes through heavy bombing,heavy heavy bombing, fires, et cetera.
Moving one people from one million peoplefrom the north to the south and
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still bombing them along the way,that's that's not ethical. That's not the
most moral military in the world.As they say, the lawsuit know that
Benjamin in Yahoo's quoting of Deuteronomy quote, you must remember what Amelek has done
to you, says the Holy Bible. And we do remember, and we
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are fighting. The CCR's complaints saidthat in the Bible, God commands the
extermination of the i'ma Koalite men,women, children, and animals. And
this commandment is described by scholars asthe divinely mandated genocide. And it's not
only women, children, and animals, even infants were in there. We
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read that scripture. The lawsuit said. Senior Israeli officers stated that the intention
to destroy Palestinian life in Gaza,including Mahjen Ghassian Aliyan, who said human
animals must be treated as such.There will be no electricity and no water
in Gaza, and there will onlybe destruction. You wanted hell, you
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will get hell, the CCR quoted. So this is obviously intentional. If
the people from Amas hiding under tunnels, we know that they don't have access
to grid, to the grid tohave internet and electricity and running water or
whatever. So if these people aren'thiding, what is the point of denying
the rest of the citizens of Gaza, the Palestinian people, access to running
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water, electricity, internet, etc. To function in their daily lives.
The point of denying them that iscollective punishment. That's exactly what the point
of denying them water and food,not even just like the commodities running water,
electricity or whatever, no food comingin, No aid was being allowed
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in. One thing that I guessshould be mentioned here, and I don't
want to give the United States toomuch credit, but we have to just
mention it is that I think thatthe United States is the only reason why
some aid is starting to come innow, and I think that that probably
has a lot to do with alot of the discussions that President Biden has
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been having with Benjamin Nett and Yahoobehind closed doors. Of Course, publicly
he's going to keep saying, wesupport Israel one hundred percent, we back
Israel, we got Israel's back,et cetera. But privately, I believe
that he's been lighting a fire underBenjamin Net and Yahoo's ass about some of
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the the stuff that he has beendoing. But we're not being able to
see that in the public. Onlything that President Biden has said about Benjamin
Net and Yahoo is that he wishedthat the aid was getting in faster,
so he wasn't happy with it gettingin faster. And of course that was
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mentioned to net Yahoo and he kindof said to hey, he wished it
was all going faster. He didn'trespond back. But I don't believe that
President Biden really fucks with Benjamin Yahoolike that. Excuse my language, because
I think that Yahoo came to theUN headquarters in New York, and I
think Biden met him there, butand they had like, you know,
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the little formal sit down whatever,but Biden didn't invite him to the White
House and all of that kind ofstuff. I don't think Biden really fucks
with him like that, and alot of people in this world don't really
fuck with him like that. That'swhy there's been protests outside of his house.
That's why all of the stuff woulderuption, and all of that stuff
is coming to bear, and that'swhy he wants this war because the war
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will unite everyone around him and thenafter the war, he'll look like a
war hero and he can answer someof the tougher questions, etc. But
this right now is something he's usingthe war to delay everything and hopefully he
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can get more and more power,you know, because that's what happens after
a lot of these attacks, peoplebecome willing to give up freedoms and stuff
like that. We see in theUnited States after nine eleven, laws like
the Patriot Act was passed, whichkind of removed a lot of freedom and
privacy, et cetera. So Ithink he's buying Tom. I think he's
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buying Tom because I think he evengot elected amongst all of the stuff that
he had going on, and weneed to dig deep, in deeper into
that. We might have a Benjaminand Yahoo most powerful man in the world.
Part two, digging deeper, justinto all of the domestic stuff that
he's got going on. Okay,so let's see, under international law to
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the United States has a duty totake all measures to prevent genocide, the
lawsuit said, Did I go downtoo far? The CCR quoted an International
Court of Justice ruling that there's anobligation by states to prevent genocide by employing
all means reasonably available to them.Under international law of the United States has
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a duty to make to take allmeasures available to prevent genocide, the lawsuit
said, Yet defenders repeatedly refused touse their obvious and considerable leverage to set
conditions or place limits on Israel's massivebombing and total siege of Gaza. They
have done so despite escalating evidence ofIsraeli policies directed at inflicting mass harm to
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Palestinian to the Palestinian population in Gaza, including the creation of conditions of life
calculated to bring about their physical destructionthrough a total siege, and even in
the face of mounting deaths, includingthose of thousands of children. The CCR
said that the US recently affirmed itsunderstanding and agreement with obligations to prevent and
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punish genocide when it intervened in theUkraine's case against Russia at the International Court
of Justice. The United States explicitlyacknowledged, as that court had previously held
that a state's obligation to prevent andcorresponding duty to act arise at the instance
that the state learns of or shouldnormally have learned of, the existence of
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a serious risk that genocide will becommitted. The lawsuit said, so really
interesting because we see that in Rwandawith eight hundred Africans being slaughtered and the
genocide, the United States side steppedit. With what's going on right now,
the United States doing some side steppingbut when it comes to Ukraine,
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the United States jump right in theresay look, we have a duty to
prevent genocide, etcetera, etcetera,etcetera. And they of course stepped in
and has supported Ukraine diplomatically, economically, militarily, etc. So that is
that for that article. I'm gonnabegin to wrap up. I want to
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play two more clips and then we'regoing to get out of here. So
this next clip is from Nora Aracott. She's a Palestinian activist. I think
she might be an attorney too,and she just speaks to genocide a lot
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more. Oh man, I didn'tsink this to my bluetooth. I'm gonna
just play it from my phone andwe're gonna do it like that. All
some of these lawsuits when Israel hasnot in the past, you know,
taken any note of it in termsof setting the stage for the future,
what legally is would you like tosee happened? I just want to highlight
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that Israel has not necessarily denied genocide. It's actually saying it's committing genocide.
Alvidechtor was just on an Israeli programsaying that this is the Nekba, the
Netba of nineteen forty eight, oreighty percent of Palestinians were forcibly removed from
their home and replaced with Israeli settlers. They are admitting that it's the Neckba,
but they're saying that it's okay forthem to do it. They are
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insisting that this is an exception andthe world should accept it. So it's
not denial of what they're doing.They're actually saying we can do this.
What our petition to the International CriminalCourt filed on behalf of it zan Alhak,
the Palacinian Center for Human Rights,is insisting upon is that there should
be no exception in this case,that this is one of the most well
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documented cases of genocide, and ifthe International Criminal Court and international legal institutions
cannot prevent and punish genocide in thisinstance, then what is their utility.
This is a case as much againstthe International Criminal Court and its utility for
the world, which since its inceptionhas only indicted African and Arab heads of
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state, as much as it isa case against Natagna who Kurtzog, the
land Alian and others. So that'sthat very well spoken, said better than
anything I said here. So shereally kind of summed it up in terms
of so far they've only went upagainst African his estates, etc. So,
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actually, I'm sorry, that's anotherclip I need to play. So
now we're going to transition into talkingabout the hostage situation because that's what I
want to get into next. Ireally it's sad because they're saying that their
goal is to destroy Hamas and they'rebasically they're they're supposed to be destroying them
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over killing Israeli citizens. Right.However, we got two hundred and forty
hostages, right, two hundred plus, and some of them have been killed
due to Israel's own indiscriminate bombing,which is crazy within itself, and they
have to take some responsibility for theindiscriminate bombing. So Hamas is offering up
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to seventy hostages for a five dayceasefire. So that's damn near half,
you know, I mean it's damnnear half saying we'll look, we'll let
seventy hostages go, give us fivedays. Now. This is not like
a battle, that's a neck andneck battle, right, Israel has there.
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They are military as ranked as theeleventh strongest in the world. They
are heavily supplied by the number onemilitary in the world, number one military
intelligence has trained their intelligence, butthey have all of the information in terms
of intelligence, which is a wholenother story about why October seventh was even
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able to happen in the first place. But this is not a you know,
a neck and neck battle. Thisis not Ali Fraser. This is
like Ali versus who like a manoff the street, like this is nothing
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for them in terms of this wargoing up against the Palestinian military arm Hamas,
because they are the ones that havedrones and planes and bombs and all
of that target get it stuff,targeted stuff where they can actually target things
soom in and boom where Hermas don't. They don't have any of that kind
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of stuff. So this is nota This is not a neck and neck
battle by any stretch of the imagination. So a five day ceasefire is certainly
not going to hurt not going tohurt the Israel. The Israeli effort,
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now, their whole strategy is,Hey, we got the pressure cooking going,
and so we're heating it up.We're heating it up, and we're
forcing negotiations, and I can Ican respect strategy, right so cool.
You got the pressure cooking going.They're willing to negotiate. Now seventy hostages
five day ceasefire. That's almost halfthe hostage just out. That would be
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that would do great for the moraleof the of the country of Israel for
their people to know that nearly halfof their hostages have been released. And
okay, mind you, they're sayingno to this. Benjamin Nett and Yahoo
was saying no to this. Nowhere's the thing. As a person that
likes to cook, it's a personthat likes to cook. I crack up,
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I pop up in that pressure cookersometimes, you know, I got
my insta pote. I get itgoing. I throw my short ribs in
there, or I make my soupsthe neck bones and the turkey neck bones.
Don't be eating that swine out therewith the pork neck bones, y'all.
But I throw my turkey neck bonesin the pot. But my favorite
dish to cooking there, it's shortribs. I love beef short ribs.
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And the key to cooking it inthe pressure got pressure cookers me and the
instapot is to get the timing justright, because if you leave it in
there, you leave the short ribsin there for let's say an hour and
a half or something like that,there's not a whole lot of them,
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then you'll turn them into shreds nowmind, you will still be good,
but the meat will be just completelyshredded, you know what I mean.
It's not what you're going for.You're kind of overcooking it. You're getting
it tender, but now you're makingit too tender. Kind of want to
get it to the point where it'sfall off the bone tender. You don't
want it to be shredded everywhere.And this could potentially be what happens with
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their pressure cooking method that they're usinghere, is that they are they are
they might be overcooking it, youknow, they might be overcooking with this.
I think the seventy hostages for fivedays of nobody killing anybody is whatever.
They're not going to lose any typeof significant They're not going to lose
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any type of significant advantage that theyhave in five days time. Even if
Hamas does regroup or whatever. Youhave all kinds of intelligence and drones and
all that kind of stuff everywhere.Five days break is not going to put
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idf Israel's Army defense team is notgoing to put them at any significant advantages,
especially when you're talking about saving seventypeople's lives, elderly people, children,
are they because you're not allowing anyfood in there, You're not allowing
any water in there. So whatabout the well being of Israeli citizens?
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Or were just going to press thisline of taking people out so hard that
we not only do we not careabout Politinians, we're not even gonna care
about You're not even gonna care aboutyour own Israeli citizens that you have in
there. So that's the next storythat I'm going to pull up here where
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we're talking about the hostage negotiation,and then we'll hear from Ben from b
B himself talking about the hostage thingand the United States already told him that
they need some type of extended pauseto get more hostage about first wanted.
Nick Beeki is following all of usfrom Jerusalem. Nick, it's good to
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see you. You know, earlierthis morning I had heard that communications with
Al Hieva hospital they were down,So I don't know if we even have
an idea of what the situation islike now. And you know, we
played that video Israeli video showing whatthey say are Hamas sort of strongholds underneath
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a children's hospital. I'm wondering aboutthe claim. Oh gosh, I have
to share this, and I'm gonnalet the video play. There was audif
they were underneath the some type oftunnel or something, and they were showing
this calendar and they were like,look this right here is Arabic and this
is where each terrorist signs his nameon this calendar, et cetera. So
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you had some real people that actuallybecause they can present that to me and
you, because we don't read Arabicscript. We can't tell Arabic script from
Amharik script, from Hebrew script fromany other type of Semitic script, so
we can't tell those scripts apart.They said, oh, this isn't Arabic.
Da da da da da, right, and it has all these terrorst
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names on it. So people thatactually speak Arabic and actually read Arabic and
know the script zoomed in on itand showed that there's actually no names on
the script and that it's actually justa calendar. All of it is.
There is a is a calendar,and that was that was fascinating in terms
of just propaganda and lies, becausethey're trying to pull one over on all
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of our ignorance and say, hey, look, this is their names son
here, and we wouldn't have anyway of knowing that those are not names
and that they were it was justan actual calendar, but they actually showed
the script and then they show whereis in Arabic Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday, Friday. There's no nameson it at all. That Hamas
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is using this hospital as a shield, and Marie are absolutely right. It's
really difficult to get communications with theAl Shifa Hospital, which is of course
the biggest hospital in Gaza. Butthe latest we've had today pictures yet again
a very grim pitcher the medical directorthere, saying that more than one hundred
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and seventy bodies have now been buriedin what is a mass grave. They've
said previously they haven't been able todo that because they were too frightened to
go outside and perform the baryl becausethey thought they might be caught in the
crossfire. So that is a realconcern there, and also the plight of
more than thirty babies. We're toldthere are newborn babies who urgently need intensive
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care. There's no real development onwhether they've been moved to a safer place,
so really difficult. As for thatclaim that the Israelis say once again
that there is this bunker underneath thehospital that Harmas has been using. They
haven't put forward any specific intelligence orevidence for that. But as you say,
and as we were seeing the reportjust there, they have talked about
another hospital where they say there isevidence that her Mass have built a bunker
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underneath. So Hamas has said nowthat it's willing to exchange about fifty to
seventy women and children who are beingheld hostage in exchange for a five day
seas fire. I know Benjamin Netaniawho has said very clearly that he is
not interested in a ceasefire. Afive day cease fire certainly seems like a
long time. What do we knowabout the situation in terms of negotiating to
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get these hostages released. Yeah,I think it's worth stressing, Amrie that
it's really difficult to have any sortof certainty when it comes to these hostage
negotiations. They're obviously taking place behindthe scenes. We know the Gulf state
of Katar is intricately involved with them. As you say, there is this
suggestion from HARMSS that potentially fifty toseventy hostages could be released. Certainly,
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that would be something that the familieshere in Israel are desperately looking forward to.
But in terms of this coming tofruition, we're not seeing anything imminent.
But the hope is that there willbe conversations. But there is that
big stumbling block, as you say, Benjamin Netanyaki, the Prime Minister here,
has said the hostages need to bereleased before there can be any cease
fine, as we see, there'sno sign of that at the moment.
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Of course. Concern is any sortof ceasefire would give her mask time to
retool, recollect itself and be readyfor the next defensive Nick Biek, thank
you. N Yeah, that timewith them being completely englfed and surrounded by
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the idea encircling guaysa city that's notgoing to help them in any strategic way
by besides allowing them to get aquick breather in. But they want to
keep the pressure cooker going. Hewants to keep this war going, and
he wants to see like a toughass instead of bringing back seventy hostages,
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women, children, elderly, etcetera. And every day that those hostages
don't come back, there's another daythat they are potentially without water, potentially
without food, potentially, you know, it's crazy. And so every day
that they don't that they are notback, it's another day that they could
be gone. They could, youknow, either through them being killed by
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Hamas or through not eaten, etcetera. So I'm gonna read some comments
from this and then we're gonna getinto the last clip, and then it's
gonna I'm gonna finish up. Sosomebody says BB doesn't care about the hostages.
He's more concerned about his role asa tough guy. Hamas went from
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two to seventy hostages being offered,while Nott and yet and who are so
sent soldiers into guys, and thatY'allaho's strategies is working. The numbers show
seeing how the IDF has yet tofind and rescue any they should take the
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deal to infighting and also to atleast possibly get some information on the rest
of the whereabouts. So that wouldthat to me, would make the most
sense. They would would get fiftyhostages back. You could get information back,
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you know, so you get youknow, you can bring a lot
of information back from them from thefifty hostages, fifty to seventy hostages.
So see what else people are sayinghere. Some people are saying no cease
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fire, Harma's planning to escape thehospital underground bunker. And yeah, they
did offer a ceasefire for the exchangeof from a Palestinian prisoners as well.
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So we're going to moving to ourlast clip with none other than Bbing that
Yahoo himself the most powerful man inthe world right now, which capital persons
have said that they are engaged infighting around El Shippa Hospital, the largest
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medical facility in Gaza. I knowthat you say that the hospital sits on
top of a Hamas command and controlcenter, but of course there are also
patients civilians sheltering in that complex gettingtreatment. So how do you intend to
go after Hamas without putting sick andinjured civilians in that hospital at more risk
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than they already are. Well,We've called to evacuate all the patients from
that hospital, and in fact,one hundred or so have already been evacuated.
I've called for field hospitals French presidentis sent a floating hospital ship.
I've asked the Emirates to send afield hospital. They have and other countries
have done the same. He'll benext and I but it's the first goal
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is to destroy Hamas. The secondgoal is to bring back our hostages.
We're trying to do both. Yeah, so those are so notice how he
he niemorized the goal. First goalis to destroying My second goal is a
hortally understandable goals, goals that theUnited States very much supports, understanding that
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Hamas is a barbaric terrorist organization,but Israel is not Hamas, and the
United States also makes very clear thatdemocracies have to do better. The Secretary
of State Tony Blincoln said that fartoo many Palestinians civilians have been killed.
What is your response to that.I think any civilian loss is a tragedy
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and it should the blame should beplaced squarely on Hamas because it prevents them
from leaving the war zone. Sometimesat gunpoint, it's fired on the safe
Zordan and the safe cord or thatwe enacted the other day to prevent Palestinians
from leaving arms way, it putsrockets inside the schools, hospitals, it
has tunnels below children's beds. Thisis what we're dealing with. Absolutely,
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because Israel isn't Hamas. Is Israeldoing everything possible to take that into con
sideration. Yes, just that,and more than that, and more than
that, we're trying to minimize civiliancasualties as a result of our ground action.
I think the number of civilian casualtiesis actually being reduced because people are
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heating, are calls to leave thearea and defining Hamas's attempt to keep them
there. And we'll do everything inour power to do that. But you
know, the one example I couldgive you is this, Look these savages.
They perpetrated the worst horrors on Jewssince the Holocaust. The German Chancellor
of Schultz called them the new Nazis. Well, look at the old Nazis.
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The Allies were attacked by Hitler andso they invaded France and then Germany.
And when they did that, theywent into the cities. They had
to fight the German army that wasoften embedded in civilian in the cities,
civilian neighborhoods, and many civilians werekilled. So who was the blame laid
on they say, well, theNazis are workers. The Allies are wrong.
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The Allies should stop fighting. Butthey said, look, you pop
force as judiciously as you can,but don't give the Nazis any refuge.
Defeat the Nazis, which is whatwe're doing, O mister, using force
in the most judicious way. Butwe have to defeat these new Nazis,
and we will for our sake,for your sake, I want to ask
about the hostages. Thousands of Israelis, including families of hostages, rallied this
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weekend right across the street from whereyou are right now. They're very frustrated
that they're not getting more information fromyou and where their loved ones are.
Believe that the government, your governmentis not doing enough to get them back.
What do you say to them.It's understandable. They're under tremendous distress.
They're under this torture. You canimagine that, have your your father,
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your husband, your son, yourdaughter taken by these savages. Are
you doing it? And how we'redoing everything we can around the clock,
and I can't talk about it.I personally met with a hostage of families,
families of ostages several times and itjust tears your heart up. But
yes, we're doing everything and manythings that I can't say here obviously,
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but this is one of our twoor goals. One is to destroy Hamas
and the second is to bring backour hostages, and we'll do everything we
can, and we think the entireworld to join us. Demand visits to
the osyges, demand the unconditional releaseof the hostages, say that this is
barbarism, that is unaccepted, unacceptable. I like to see the u N.
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I like to see the UN SecretaryGeneral basically laid the blame on Israel,
lay the blame on these savages,to demand that they obey international law
because Israel is fighting according to internationallaw. Israeli army is doing an exemplary
job trying to minimize security civilian casualtiesand maximize terrorist casualties. But we need
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the international community not to give succorsupport and moral support and legitimacy to sheer
evil that Hamas represents. Support Israelattack Hamas. Prime Minister Natia who One
of the questions right now is whenit comes to hostages, is whether there
can be a negotiation that work towardsworks towards a deal to free large groups
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of hostages in exchange for a sustainedday's long pause in fighting. Is that
acceptable to you? And if so, how long of a pause would Israel
be willing to allow. So mostpeople have no idea this even exists.
But to add, and it's givingAmericans wow. I said that we're going
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to pursue the battle to destroy theHamas to its end. But I also
said that the only cease fire thatwe would consider is one in which we
have our hostages released. And thatremains true. Doesn't mean that we can't
give a humanitarian pause for a fewhours in a place, a specific time
and place. We want to havea humanity in corridor, have the people
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leave safely. We've done that andthe hundreds of thousands have left the fighting.
How long of a pause willing tosupport? Well, so far we've
dealt with a few hours. Ifyou're talking about a cease fire, well,
I'm not going to get into No, I'm not talking about it ceasefire,
just a longer pause days for example, that's not that's not a pause.
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If you're talking about stopping the fighting, that's exactly what Kamas wants,
Commas wants an endless series of pausesthat basically dissipate the battle against them.
So like the Germans after Normandy,you know, they say, Okay,
let's have a ceasefire. You guys, you know, hold off, let
us replenish our supplies, let usget out of our tyro tunnels, let
us we arm ourselves, and soon. Obviously we're not going to do
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that, the US says, orderedto have in order to have a cease
fire, of any cease fire inthe entire area that will require the release
of our hostages. The US saysthat you need an extended pause in order
to get the hostages out. Doyou not believe that as well, Oh
well we don't. We don't.So listen to how he responded. She
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said, the United States that's intelligencein the world, said we need an
extended pause in order to get thehostages out. And he says, well,
and now he's about to say,we don't disagree. We'll see,
I'll let it play. But lookat how he responded to that, were
that, well, we need toget our hostages up. The US also
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says that any post war plan forGaza must include Palestinian led governance and Gaza
unified with the West Bank under thePalestinian authority. You appeared to reject that
yesterday you said Israel will not accepta quote civilian authority there that educates its
children to hate Israel. So Ijust want to be clear. Are you
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saying that Israel would not accept givingcontrol of Gaza over to the Palestinian authority
After the war. The first thingwe have to do is destroy Hamas because
otherwise they'll do it again and againand again. And they've said so,
all right, So I'm gonna goahead and end that there. We'll talk
about more of the post war stuffat another time. So but you can
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see there in terms of the dismissalof take a couple of days, break
from bombing children and women and getback to Israeli hostig crazy. So that's
gonna be it for us today,brothers and sisters. As always, I
thank you so much for listening,for listening, continue to show your love
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Malcolm X's podcast Peace and Love WhileHip Hop Beat thirty years from now.
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I guess I should keep studying mypeers for now? Should I make a
dance and snap thumbs fast, highhats, eight away back drums? Are
we selling enough souls for thirty threepieces a go? If it's lack of
the sold, how can it remainwhole? We make music for a strip
of holes, but no music tothink. That's the short term money that
we put in the bank. Butthe dramas going backwards, I see devolution
(47:39):
instead of evolution. This is soleprostitution. The children are fumbling, even
got the elders and carriage and muffling. Watching them stumbling, then you have
today. It's so humbling. Meanwhile, our stock has been plummeted, and
they're telling me I need to soundlike these other niggas grown ass men.
Trying to sound like the younger niggasused to have balance. Back in the
(48:00):
days we had talent. Trying tobe original was the challenge. Now all
these niggas sound the same, andall the beats, talent the same,
the same kase the same trumps.All that shit sounded lange johny niggas trying
to sound like future and a loverocking future. But that's why it's a
feature. To think you niggas needa different producer. Hope that bullshit crash
your computer. Ain't nothing cool aboutbeing the loser.
Who will hip hop beat thirty yearsfrom now? I guess I should keep
studying my peers for now. ShouldI make a dance and snap thumbs fast,
high hats, ate away back trumps? Are we selling enough souls for
thirty two pieces a go? Ifit's lack of the soul, how can
it remain hold? We make musicfor a strip of holes, but no
music to think that's the short termmoney that we're put in the bank.
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But the dramas going backwards. Isee devolution instead of evolution. This is
sole prostitution. The children are fumbling, even got the elders and carriage and
muffling. Watching them stumbling, thenyou have to tell you it's so humbling.
Meanwhile, I stock has been plummeted, and they're telling me I need
to sound like these other niggas.Grown ass men trying to sound like the
younger niggas used to have balance backin the days we had talent trying to
(01:11):
be original with the challenge. Nowall these niggas sound the same, and
all the beasts talent the same,the same. Katie Saint Trump's and all
that shit sounded rage niggas trying tosound like feature and I love rocking Future,
but that's trying for feature that niggasneed a different brothers and tune into
another episode of the Gospel of MalcolmX's podcast. I'm your host, brother
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Eric. As always, it ismy pleasure to be back and in the
studio with you once again. Ilike to take the time out, as
I always do, to give aspecial shout out to all of the brothers
and sisters out there that show yourlove and support to the Gospel of Malcolm
X's podcast. I always appreciate theemails and text messages and uh not text
(01:57):
messages. I haven't put my numberout there, yeah, but the emails
and the dms, reshares and allof that that good stuff. So today
should be a quick episode. Justwant to touch on three different things and
then we'll go ahead and wrap itup. So I'm going to be talking
about first this lawsuit. We havea pal Steadian organization that's going to be
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suing Biden and a couple of othermembers of Biden's cabinet based off of what
they're saying is neglect. And we'regoing to read the article in some of
the complaints, but the gist ofit is that they're saying that Biden failed
to protect them on the international lawbecause they should have been stopping it's their
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responsibility on the international law to stopIsrael from committing the war crimes that they've
been committing. Then we're going totalk about the hostage hostage negotiation. And
I play some of the clips onthe last EPISOD, So we were talking
about the hostage negotiation situation. AndI certainly don't believe that Prime Minister that
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in Yahoo is doing all that hecan to get the hostages back, and
he seems to me, and we'regoing to get into it more to be
more concerned about pushing his line andkeeping the war going. And he may
have his own personal agenda in termsof why he's keeping the war going,
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because he has a lot of stuffgoing on internally on the domestic front in
Israel where you got fraud cases andall that kind of stuff going on with
him over there, and so himpushing his line like that, I don't
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know. So I want to goahead and get into it. Let me
see if I can pull up thefirst article, and this is over at
the Guardian and it's called US RightsGroups sues Biden for alleged failure to prevent
genocide and Gaza complaint on behalf ofPalaestinian groups and individual allegs Israel's actions amounted
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genocide. A New York civil libertiesgroup is suing Joe Biden for allegedly Sorry,
guys, let me give a creditto the the author of the article,
Chris mcguil, a New York civilliberties group issuing Joe Biden for allegedly
failing in his duty under international andUS laws to prevent Israel committing genocide and
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gaza. The Center of Constitutional RightsCCR complaint on behalf of several Palestinian groups
and individuals, allegens that Israel's actions, including mass killings, the targeting of
civilian infrastructure, and force explosion,amount of genocide. The CCR said that
the nineteen forty eight Convention against Genociderequires the US and other countries to use
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their power and influence to stop killing. What's interesting about this citing the nineteen
forty eight Convention is that nineteen fortyeight is also the year that Israel was
established as a country. Continuing onwith the article, though as Israel's closest
ally and strongest supporter, being itsbiggest provider of military assistance by a large
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margin, and with Israel being thelargest cumulative recipient of US foreign assistance since
World War Two, the United Stateshas the means available to have a deterrent
effect on Israeli officials now pursuing genocidalacts against the Palestinian people and gods of
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The complaint argue lawsuit filed in Federalcourt on in California, acts the court
to bar the US from providing weapons, money, and diplomatic support to Israel.
It also seeks a declaration that PresidentBiden, the Secretary of State Anthony
Blancol, and the Defense Secretary LoydAustin are required to take all measures within
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their power to prevent Israel's commission ofgenocidal acts against the Palestinian people of Gaza.
These include pressing Israel to end thebombing of Gaza, to lift the
siege of the territory, and toprevent forcible expulsions of Palestinians. I'm going
to also say that this needs toinclude what's happening in the West Bank,
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and if my listeners out there don'tknow that basically the land that the Palestinians
actually have over there has been dividedinto two parts, and they're not actually
even alowed to travel to these twoareas. So if you have they have
the West Bank and they have Gaza, so and those territories were separated.
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So just imagine. I've heard storieswhere let's say a brother lives in the
in the uh in Gaza and asister lives in West Bank, and you
can't travel to the other one unlessyou get some type of Israeli permission,
which wasn't really given out a lot, So you can't really get back and
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forth to the other, to theother places, see your relatives. And
there was a story that I heardwhen the bombing first started taking place that
basically there was a guy he livedin Gaza, I want to say,
and his family was in the WestBank and he hadn't seen his sister in
over thirty years and she was killedin in the bombing, you know,
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or vice versa. Maybe he livedin the West Bank and his sister was
killed in the bombing in Gaza.Either way, they can't get back and
forth to the other. They don'thave a right to travel freely. You
got people in the West Bank whohave never seen the ocean. You know,
because there's no ocean on that side. I think the West Bank is
near the Jordan River, is likethe west bank of the Jordan River,
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so they have a river, butthey don't have any access to the ocean.
Israel doesn't allow them to have anytype of a port in Gaza.
They don't have control over that oil. Of course, we just know.
We know that they recently found trillionsof dollars worth of oil reserves that could
completely change the economic situation for thepeople of Gaza, but of course they
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haven't been allowed to tap into it. And we're going to be covering that
more in future episodes as well.But I think that this protection that they
are asking for for the people ofGaza needs to be extended to the West
Bank as well, because a lotof what's happening is Israel is building a
lot of settlements there, and thesettlements that they're building there, of course
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there's cars and clashes because they're kickingthe Palestinians off their land and just building.
You know, like we're here now, and we know where we've seen
that before in history, where there'sa slow process of taking the people's land.
It doesn't all happen in one night, that a chunk of it may
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happen, but we see with theformation of the United States that they didn't
completely rid itself of Indian territories allin one night. You had situations that
looked very much like the trailer tearswhen you see the people fleeing from North
Gaza to southern Gaza, a lotof them walking because they don't have oil
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to drive cars to walk in,and donkeys and carts and being forced out
of their homes, and it's notcertain that they're going to ever be ever
going to be able to return.And it looks doubtful with how much your
land has been adnext from them,that they won't lose a single inch of
land in this military excursion. TheCCR, which won a landmark case in
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the US Supreme Court in two thousandand four establishing the rights of prisoners held
by US military at the Gutonamo Bayprison camp, said that Hamas cross border
attack on October seventh, seventh,in which about twelve hundred people were killed
and more than two hundred abducted,does not provide a legal justification for the
scale of Israel's assault on Gaza,which has killed more than eleven thousand Palestinians,
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including forty six hundred children, anddisplaced one point five million people.
The lawsuit comes as the International CriminalCourt investigates Israel and Hamas for alleged war
crimes, but legal scholars say thatgenocide is a harder crime to prove,
and questions whether the President can beforced to find that Israel is committing genocide
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and is therefore under an obligation toact. President Bill Clinton refused to recognize
the systematic murder of eight hundred thousandTwopsis in Rwanda in nineteen ninety four as
genocide in order to side step thelegal obligation to intervene. He later apologized
(11:30):
to the rwarding people. That's crazy. I'm gonna just read that twice and
I'm gonna just leave it there.I don't even need the comment on that,
but I'm gonna just read it twiceso you can hear it again.
President Bill Clinton refused to recognize thesystematic murder of eight hundred thousand Tutsis in
Rwanda in nineteen ninety four as agenocide in order to side step the legal
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obligation to intervene. He later apologizedto the rewarding people. So we have
a historic president here in which there'ssomething that happened that's obviously a genocide.
There was a whole movie called HotelRwanda that was made about the genocide of
the Tutsi people, and it lookslike Bill Clinton was able to just side
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step that joint. You know withit, Lord Wayne say recently, you
don't got to step aside get sidestep. He was able to side step
the international law for the murder ofeight hundred thousand Africans, which is crazy.
So we know for sure right nowthe count is not at eight hundred
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thousand Palestinians, but over eleven thousandis the numbers that have come in from
the Palestinian side, which is stilla lot of people. It's still too
many, and the majority of themare women and children and are no threat
to the IDF or Israel, etc. The nineteen forty eight Convention, written
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in the wake of the Holocaust,defines genocide as the intent to destroy,
in whole or part a national,ethical, racial, or religious group.
As such, the Convention's first articlerequires signatories, which include the US,
to prevent and to punish genocide.The lawsuit list a series of actions taken
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by Israel that the CCR said amountto genocide against the Palestinian people. These
include the scale of civilian deaths,systematic collective punishment, and deprivation of the
most basic necessities of life. Thegroup said that the Israeli order. The
group said that the Israeli order formore than one million Palestinians to leave their
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homes in Gaza, alongside the languageused by Israeli political and military leaders,
amounted to the call for genocide.The lawsuit noted Benjamin and Yahu's quoting of
Deuteronomy and we talked about this,and I'm about to read the quote,
but we talked about I did anepisode where I talked about Benjamin and Yahoo
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quoting a passage from the scripture thatbasically just said kill everybody. And yeah,
I mean that's crazy then, ofcourse, forcibly moving these people from
from their homes through heavy bombing,heavy heavy bombing, fires, et cetera.
Moving one people from one million peoplefrom the north to the south and
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still bombing them along the way,that's that's not ethical. That's not the
most moral military in the world.As they say, the lawsuit know that
Benjamin in Yahoo's quoting of Deuteronomy quote, you must remember what Amelek has done
to you, says the Holy Bible. And we do remember, and we
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are fighting. The CCR's complaints saidthat in the Bible, God commands the
extermination of the i'ma Koalite men,women, children, and animals. And
this commandment is described by scholars asthe divinely mandated genocide. And it's not
only women, children, and animals, even infants were in there. We
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read that scripture. The lawsuit said. Senior Israeli officers stated that the intention
to destroy Palestinian life in Gaza,including Mahjen Ghassian Aliyan, who said human
animals must be treated as such.There will be no electricity and no water
in Gaza, and there will onlybe destruction. You wanted hell, you
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will get hell, the CCR quoted. So this is obviously intentional. If
the people from Amas hiding under tunnels, we know that they don't have access
to grid, to the grid tohave internet and electricity and running water or
whatever. So if these people aren'thiding, what is the point of denying
the rest of the citizens of Gaza, the Palestinian people, access to running
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water, electricity, internet, etc. To function in their daily lives.
The point of denying them that iscollective punishment. That's exactly what the point
of denying them water and food,not even just like the commodities running water,
electricity or whatever, no food comingin, No aid was being allowed
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in. One thing that I guessshould be mentioned here, and I don't
want to give the United States toomuch credit, but we have to just
mention it is that I think thatthe United States is the only reason why
some aid is starting to come innow, and I think that that probably
has a lot to do with alot of the discussions that President Biden has
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been having with Benjamin Nett and Yahoobehind closed doors. Of Course, publicly
he's going to keep saying, wesupport Israel one hundred percent, we back
Israel, we got Israel's back,et cetera. But privately, I believe
that he's been lighting a fire underBenjamin Net and Yahoo's ass about some of
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the the stuff that he has beendoing. But we're not being able to
see that in the public. Onlything that President Biden has said about Benjamin
Net and Yahoo is that he wishedthat the aid was getting in faster,
so he wasn't happy with it gettingin faster. And of course that was
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mentioned to net Yahoo and he kindof said to hey, he wished it
was all going faster. He didn'trespond back. But I don't believe that
President Biden really fucks with Benjamin Yahoolike that. Excuse my language, because
I think that Yahoo came to theUN headquarters in New York, and I
think Biden met him there, butand they had like, you know,
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the little formal sit down whatever,but Biden didn't invite him to the White
House and all of that kind ofstuff. I don't think Biden really fucks
with him like that, and alot of people in this world don't really
fuck with him like that. That'swhy there's been protests outside of his house.
That's why all of the stuff woulderuption, and all of that stuff
is coming to bear, and that'swhy he wants this war because the war
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will unite everyone around him and thenafter the war, he'll look like a
war hero and he can answer someof the tougher questions, etc. But
this right now is something he's usingthe war to delay everything and hopefully he
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can get more and more power,you know, because that's what happens after
a lot of these attacks, peoplebecome willing to give up freedoms and stuff
like that. We see in theUnited States after nine eleven, laws like
the Patriot Act was passed, whichkind of removed a lot of freedom and
privacy, et cetera. So Ithink he's buying Tom. I think he's
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buying Tom because I think he evengot elected amongst all of the stuff that
he had going on, and weneed to dig deep, in deeper into
that. We might have a Benjaminand Yahoo most powerful man in the world.
Part two, digging deeper, justinto all of the domestic stuff that
he's got going on. Okay,so let's see, under international law to
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the United States has a duty totake all measures to prevent genocide, the
lawsuit said, Did I go downtoo far? The CCR quoted an International
Court of Justice ruling that there's anobligation by states to prevent genocide by employing
all means reasonably available to them.Under international law of the United States has
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a duty to make to take allmeasures available to prevent genocide, the lawsuit
said, Yet defenders repeatedly refused touse their obvious and considerable leverage to set
conditions or place limits on Israel's massivebombing and total siege of Gaza. They
have done so despite escalating evidence ofIsraeli policies directed at inflicting mass harm to
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Palestinian to the Palestinian population in Gaza, including the creation of conditions of life
calculated to bring about their physical destructionthrough a total siege, and even in
the face of mounting deaths, includingthose of thousands of children. The CCR
said that the US recently affirmed itsunderstanding and agreement with obligations to prevent and
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punish genocide when it intervened in theUkraine's case against Russia at the International Court
of Justice. The United States explicitlyacknowledged, as that court had previously held
that a state's obligation to prevent andcorresponding duty to act arise at the instance
that the state learns of or shouldnormally have learned of, the existence of
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a serious risk that genocide will becommitted. The lawsuit said, so really
interesting because we see that in Rwandawith eight hundred Africans being slaughtered and the
genocide, the United States side steppedit. With what's going on right now,
the United States doing some side steppingbut when it comes to Ukraine,
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the United States jump right in theresay look, we have a duty to
prevent genocide, etcetera, etcetera,etcetera. And they of course stepped in
and has supported Ukraine diplomatically, economically, militarily, etc. So that is
that for that article. I'm gonnabegin to wrap up. I want to
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play two more clips and then we'regoing to get out of here. So
this next clip is from Nora Aracott. She's a Palestinian activist. I think
she might be an attorney too,and she just speaks to genocide a lot
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more. Oh man, I didn'tsink this to my bluetooth. I'm gonna
just play it from my phone andwe're gonna do it like that. All
some of these lawsuits when Israel hasnot in the past, you know,
taken any note of it in termsof setting the stage for the future,
what legally is would you like tosee happened? I just want to highlight
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that Israel has not necessarily denied genocide. It's actually saying it's committing genocide.
Alvidechtor was just on an Israeli programsaying that this is the Nekba, the
Netba of nineteen forty eight, oreighty percent of Palestinians were forcibly removed from
their home and replaced with Israeli settlers. They are admitting that it's the Neckba,
but they're saying that it's okay forthem to do it. They are
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insisting that this is an exception andthe world should accept it. So it's
not denial of what they're doing.They're actually saying we can do this.
What our petition to the International CriminalCourt filed on behalf of it zan Alhak,
the Palacinian Center for Human Rights,is insisting upon is that there should
be no exception in this case,that this is one of the most well
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documented cases of genocide, and ifthe International Criminal Court and international legal institutions
cannot prevent and punish genocide in thisinstance, then what is their utility.
This is a case as much againstthe International Criminal Court and its utility for
the world, which since its inceptionhas only indicted African and Arab heads of
(23:30):
state, as much as it isa case against Natagna who Kurtzog, the
land Alian and others. So that'sthat very well spoken, said better than
anything I said here. So shereally kind of summed it up in terms
of so far they've only went upagainst African his estates, etc. So,
(23:56):
actually, I'm sorry, that's anotherclip I need to play. So
now we're going to transition into talkingabout the hostage situation because that's what I
want to get into next. Ireally it's sad because they're saying that their
goal is to destroy Hamas and they'rebasically they're they're supposed to be destroying them
(24:17):
over killing Israeli citizens. Right.However, we got two hundred and forty
hostages, right, two hundred plus, and some of them have been killed
due to Israel's own indiscriminate bombing,which is crazy within itself, and they
have to take some responsibility for theindiscriminate bombing. So Hamas is offering up
(24:42):
to seventy hostages for a five dayceasefire. So that's damn near half,
you know, I mean it's damnnear half saying we'll look, we'll let
seventy hostages go, give us fivedays. Now. This is not like
a battle, that's a neck andneck battle, right, Israel has there.
(25:03):
They are military as ranked as theeleventh strongest in the world. They
are heavily supplied by the number onemilitary in the world, number one military
intelligence has trained their intelligence, butthey have all of the information in terms
of intelligence, which is a wholenother story about why October seventh was even
(25:23):
able to happen in the first place. But this is not a you know,
a neck and neck battle. Thisis not Ali Fraser. This is
like Ali versus who like a manoff the street, like this is nothing
(25:44):
for them in terms of this wargoing up against the Palestinian military arm Hamas,
because they are the ones that havedrones and planes and bombs and all
of that target get it stuff,targeted stuff where they can actually target things
soom in and boom where Hermas don't. They don't have any of that kind
(26:07):
of stuff. So this is nota This is not a neck and neck
battle by any stretch of the imagination. So a five day ceasefire is certainly
not going to hurt not going tohurt the Israel. The Israeli effort,
(26:30):
now, their whole strategy is,Hey, we got the pressure cooking going,
and so we're heating it up.We're heating it up, and we're
forcing negotiations, and I can Ican respect strategy, right so cool.
You got the pressure cooking going.They're willing to negotiate. Now seventy hostages
five day ceasefire. That's almost halfthe hostage just out. That would be
(26:53):
that would do great for the moraleof the of the country of Israel for
their people to know that nearly halfof their hostages have been released. And
okay, mind you, they're sayingno to this. Benjamin Nett and Yahoo
was saying no to this. Nowhere's the thing. As a person that
likes to cook, it's a personthat likes to cook. I crack up,
(27:15):
I pop up in that pressure cookersometimes, you know, I got
my insta pote. I get itgoing. I throw my short ribs in
there, or I make my soupsthe neck bones and the turkey neck bones.
Don't be eating that swine out therewith the pork neck bones, y'all.
But I throw my turkey neck bonesin the pot. But my favorite
dish to cooking there, it's shortribs. I love beef short ribs.
(27:36):
And the key to cooking it inthe pressure got pressure cookers me and the
instapot is to get the timing justright, because if you leave it in
there, you leave the short ribsin there for let's say an hour and
a half or something like that,there's not a whole lot of them,
(27:56):
then you'll turn them into shreds nowmind, you will still be good,
but the meat will be just completelyshredded, you know what I mean.
It's not what you're going for.You're kind of overcooking it. You're getting
it tender, but now you're makingit too tender. Kind of want to
get it to the point where it'sfall off the bone tender. You don't
want it to be shredded everywhere.And this could potentially be what happens with
(28:21):
their pressure cooking method that they're usinghere, is that they are they are
they might be overcooking it, youknow, they might be overcooking with this.
I think the seventy hostages for fivedays of nobody killing anybody is whatever.
They're not going to lose any typeof significant They're not going to lose
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any type of significant advantage that theyhave in five days time. Even if
Hamas does regroup or whatever. Youhave all kinds of intelligence and drones and
all that kind of stuff everywhere.Five days break is not going to put
(29:06):
idf Israel's Army defense team is notgoing to put them at any significant advantages,
especially when you're talking about saving seventypeople's lives, elderly people, children,
are they because you're not allowing anyfood in there, You're not allowing
any water in there. So whatabout the well being of Israeli citizens?
(29:26):
Or were just going to press thisline of taking people out so hard that
we not only do we not careabout Politinians, we're not even gonna care
about You're not even gonna care aboutyour own Israeli citizens that you have in
there. So that's the next storythat I'm going to pull up here where
(29:49):
we're talking about the hostage negotiation,and then we'll hear from Ben from b
B himself talking about the hostage thingand the United States already told him that
they need some type of extended pauseto get more hostage about first wanted.
Nick Beeki is following all of usfrom Jerusalem. Nick, it's good to
(30:11):
see you. You know, earlierthis morning I had heard that communications with
Al Hieva hospital they were down,So I don't know if we even have
an idea of what the situation islike now. And you know, we
played that video Israeli video showing whatthey say are Hamas sort of strongholds underneath
(30:33):
a children's hospital. I'm wondering aboutthe claim. Oh gosh, I have
to share this, and I'm gonnalet the video play. There was audif
they were underneath the some type oftunnel or something, and they were showing
this calendar and they were like,look this right here is Arabic and this
is where each terrorist signs his nameon this calendar, et cetera. So
(30:57):
you had some real people that actuallybecause they can present that to me and
you, because we don't read Arabicscript. We can't tell Arabic script from
Amharik script, from Hebrew script fromany other type of Semitic script, so
we can't tell those scripts apart.They said, oh, this isn't Arabic.
Da da da da da, right, and it has all these terrorst
(31:21):
names on it. So people thatactually speak Arabic and actually read Arabic and
know the script zoomed in on itand showed that there's actually no names on
the script and that it's actually justa calendar. All of it is.
There is a is a calendar,and that was that was fascinating in terms
of just propaganda and lies, becausethey're trying to pull one over on all
(31:47):
of our ignorance and say, hey, look, this is their names son
here, and we wouldn't have anyway of knowing that those are not names
and that they were it was justan actual calendar, but they actually showed
the script and then they show whereis in Arabic Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday, Friday. There's no nameson it at all. That Hamas
(32:08):
is using this hospital as a shield, and Marie are absolutely right. It's
really difficult to get communications with theAl Shifa Hospital, which is of course
the biggest hospital in Gaza. Butthe latest we've had today pictures yet again
a very grim pitcher the medical directorthere, saying that more than one hundred
(32:29):
and seventy bodies have now been buriedin what is a mass grave. They've
said previously they haven't been able todo that because they were too frightened to
go outside and perform the baryl becausethey thought they might be caught in the
crossfire. So that is a realconcern there, and also the plight of
more than thirty babies. We're toldthere are newborn babies who urgently need intensive
(32:49):
care. There's no real development onwhether they've been moved to a safer place,
so really difficult. As for thatclaim that the Israelis say once again
that there is this bunker underneath thehospital that Harmas has been using. They
haven't put forward any specific intelligence orevidence for that. But as you say,
and as we were seeing the reportjust there, they have talked about
another hospital where they say there isevidence that her Mass have built a bunker
(33:13):
underneath. So Hamas has said nowthat it's willing to exchange about fifty to
seventy women and children who are beingheld hostage in exchange for a five day
seas fire. I know Benjamin Netaniawho has said very clearly that he is
not interested in a ceasefire. Afive day cease fire certainly seems like a
long time. What do we knowabout the situation in terms of negotiating to
(33:36):
get these hostages released. Yeah,I think it's worth stressing, Amrie that
it's really difficult to have any sortof certainty when it comes to these hostage
negotiations. They're obviously taking place behindthe scenes. We know the Gulf state
of Katar is intricately involved with them. As you say, there is this
suggestion from HARMSS that potentially fifty toseventy hostages could be released. Certainly,
(34:00):
that would be something that the familieshere in Israel are desperately looking forward to.
But in terms of this coming tofruition, we're not seeing anything imminent.
But the hope is that there willbe conversations. But there is that
big stumbling block, as you say, Benjamin Netanyaki, the Prime Minister here,
has said the hostages need to bereleased before there can be any cease
fine, as we see, there'sno sign of that at the moment.
(34:22):
Of course. Concern is any sortof ceasefire would give her mask time to
retool, recollect itself and be readyfor the next defensive Nick Biek, thank
you. N Yeah, that timewith them being completely englfed and surrounded by
(34:42):
the idea encircling guaysa city that's notgoing to help them in any strategic way
by besides allowing them to get aquick breather in. But they want to
keep the pressure cooker going. Hewants to keep this war going, and
he wants to see like a toughass instead of bringing back seventy hostages,
(35:04):
women, children, elderly, etcetera. And every day that those hostages
don't come back, there's another daythat they are potentially without water, potentially
without food, potentially, you know, it's crazy. And so every day
that they don't that they are notback, it's another day that they could
be gone. They could, youknow, either through them being killed by
(35:30):
Hamas or through not eaten, etcetera. So I'm gonna read some comments
from this and then we're gonna getinto the last clip, and then it's
gonna I'm gonna finish up. Sosomebody says BB doesn't care about the hostages.
He's more concerned about his role asa tough guy. Hamas went from
(35:53):
two to seventy hostages being offered,while Nott and yet and who are so
sent soldiers into guys, and thatY'allaho's strategies is working. The numbers show
seeing how the IDF has yet tofind and rescue any they should take the
(36:16):
deal to infighting and also to atleast possibly get some information on the rest
of the whereabouts. So that wouldthat to me, would make the most
sense. They would would get fiftyhostages back. You could get information back,
(36:38):
you know, so you get youknow, you can bring a lot
of information back from them from thefifty hostages, fifty to seventy hostages.
So see what else people are sayinghere. Some people are saying no cease
(37:13):
fire, Harma's planning to escape thehospital underground bunker. And yeah, they
did offer a ceasefire for the exchangeof from a Palestinian prisoners as well.
(37:36):
So we're going to moving to ourlast clip with none other than Bbing that
Yahoo himself the most powerful man inthe world right now, which capital persons
have said that they are engaged infighting around El Shippa Hospital, the largest
(38:00):
medical facility in Gaza. I knowthat you say that the hospital sits on
top of a Hamas command and controlcenter, but of course there are also
patients civilians sheltering in that complex gettingtreatment. So how do you intend to
go after Hamas without putting sick andinjured civilians in that hospital at more risk
(38:20):
than they already are. Well,We've called to evacuate all the patients from
that hospital, and in fact,one hundred or so have already been evacuated.
I've called for field hospitals French presidentis sent a floating hospital ship.
I've asked the Emirates to send afield hospital. They have and other countries
have done the same. He'll benext and I but it's the first goal
(38:43):
is to destroy Hamas. The secondgoal is to bring back our hostages.
We're trying to do both. Yeah, so those are so notice how he
he niemorized the goal. First goalis to destroying My second goal is a
hortally understandable goals, goals that theUnited States very much supports, understanding that
(39:05):
Hamas is a barbaric terrorist organization,but Israel is not Hamas, and the
United States also makes very clear thatdemocracies have to do better. The Secretary
of State Tony Blincoln said that fartoo many Palestinians civilians have been killed.
What is your response to that.I think any civilian loss is a tragedy
(39:30):
and it should the blame should beplaced squarely on Hamas because it prevents them
from leaving the war zone. Sometimesat gunpoint, it's fired on the safe
Zordan and the safe cord or thatwe enacted the other day to prevent Palestinians
from leaving arms way, it putsrockets inside the schools, hospitals, it
has tunnels below children's beds. Thisis what we're dealing with. Absolutely,
(39:52):
because Israel isn't Hamas. Is Israeldoing everything possible to take that into con
sideration. Yes, just that,and more than that, and more than
that, we're trying to minimize civiliancasualties as a result of our ground action.
I think the number of civilian casualtiesis actually being reduced because people are
(40:13):
heating, are calls to leave thearea and defining Hamas's attempt to keep them
there. And we'll do everything inour power to do that. But you
know, the one example I couldgive you is this, Look these savages.
They perpetrated the worst horrors on Jewssince the Holocaust. The German Chancellor
of Schultz called them the new Nazis. Well, look at the old Nazis.
(40:34):
The Allies were attacked by Hitler andso they invaded France and then Germany.
And when they did that, theywent into the cities. They had
to fight the German army that wasoften embedded in civilian in the cities,
civilian neighborhoods, and many civilians werekilled. So who was the blame laid
on they say, well, theNazis are workers. The Allies are wrong.
(40:57):
The Allies should stop fighting. Butthey said, look, you pop
force as judiciously as you can,but don't give the Nazis any refuge.
Defeat the Nazis, which is whatwe're doing, O mister, using force
in the most judicious way. Butwe have to defeat these new Nazis,
and we will for our sake,for your sake, I want to ask
about the hostages. Thousands of Israelis, including families of hostages, rallied this
(41:22):
weekend right across the street from whereyou are right now. They're very frustrated
that they're not getting more information fromyou and where their loved ones are.
Believe that the government, your governmentis not doing enough to get them back.
What do you say to them.It's understandable. They're under tremendous distress.
They're under this torture. You canimagine that, have your your father,
(41:45):
your husband, your son, yourdaughter taken by these savages. Are
you doing it? And how we'redoing everything we can around the clock,
and I can't talk about it.I personally met with a hostage of families,
families of ostages several times and itjust tears your heart up. But
yes, we're doing everything and manythings that I can't say here obviously,
(42:07):
but this is one of our twoor goals. One is to destroy Hamas
and the second is to bring backour hostages, and we'll do everything we
can, and we think the entireworld to join us. Demand visits to
the osyges, demand the unconditional releaseof the hostages, say that this is
barbarism, that is unaccepted, unacceptable. I like to see the u N.
(42:30):
I like to see the UN SecretaryGeneral basically laid the blame on Israel,
lay the blame on these savages,to demand that they obey international law
because Israel is fighting according to internationallaw. Israeli army is doing an exemplary
job trying to minimize security civilian casualtiesand maximize terrorist casualties. But we need
(42:52):
the international community not to give succorsupport and moral support and legitimacy to sheer
evil that Hamas represents. Support Israelattack Hamas. Prime Minister Natia who One
of the questions right now is whenit comes to hostages, is whether there
can be a negotiation that work towardsworks towards a deal to free large groups
(43:15):
of hostages in exchange for a sustainedday's long pause in fighting. Is that
acceptable to you? And if so, how long of a pause would Israel
be willing to allow. So mostpeople have no idea this even exists.
But to add, and it's givingAmericans wow. I said that we're going
(43:39):
to pursue the battle to destroy theHamas to its end. But I also
said that the only cease fire thatwe would consider is one in which we
have our hostages released. And thatremains true. Doesn't mean that we can't
give a humanitarian pause for a fewhours in a place, a specific time
and place. We want to havea humanity in corridor, have the people
(44:01):
leave safely. We've done that andthe hundreds of thousands have left the fighting.
How long of a pause willing tosupport? Well, so far we've
dealt with a few hours. Ifyou're talking about a cease fire, well,
I'm not going to get into No, I'm not talking about it ceasefire,
just a longer pause days for example, that's not that's not a pause.
(44:22):
If you're talking about stopping the fighting, that's exactly what Kamas wants,
Commas wants an endless series of pausesthat basically dissipate the battle against them.
So like the Germans after Normandy,you know, they say, Okay,
let's have a ceasefire. You guys, you know, hold off, let
us replenish our supplies, let usget out of our tyro tunnels, let
us we arm ourselves, and soon. Obviously we're not going to do
(44:44):
that, the US says, orderedto have in order to have a cease
fire, of any cease fire inthe entire area that will require the release
of our hostages. The US saysthat you need an extended pause in order
to get the hostages out. Doyou not believe that as well, Oh
well we don't. We don't.So listen to how he responded. She
(45:07):
said, the United States that's intelligencein the world, said we need an
extended pause in order to get thehostages out. And he says, well,
and now he's about to say,we don't disagree. We'll see,
I'll let it play. But lookat how he responded to that, were
that, well, we need toget our hostages up. The US also
(45:30):
says that any post war plan forGaza must include Palestinian led governance and Gaza
unified with the West Bank under thePalestinian authority. You appeared to reject that
yesterday you said Israel will not accepta quote civilian authority there that educates its
children to hate Israel. So Ijust want to be clear. Are you
(45:50):
saying that Israel would not accept givingcontrol of Gaza over to the Palestinian authority
After the war. The first thingwe have to do is destroy Hamas because
otherwise they'll do it again and againand again. And they've said so,
all right, So I'm gonna goahead and end that there. We'll talk
about more of the post war stuffat another time. So but you can
(46:15):
see there in terms of the dismissalof take a couple of days, break
from bombing children and women and getback to Israeli hostig crazy. So that's
gonna be it for us today,brothers and sisters. As always, I
thank you so much for listening,for listening, continue to show your love
(46:37):
and support, continue to share thepodcast with others. Hope you guys enjoyed
today's episode or if not enjoyed,you learn something from it. So as
always, I appreciate you listening.Until the next episode of the Gospel of
Malcolm X's podcast Peace and Love WhileHip Hop Beat thirty years from now.
(47:19):
I guess I should keep studying mypeers for now? Should I make a
dance and snap thumbs fast, highhats, eight away back drums? Are
we selling enough souls for thirty threepieces a go? If it's lack of
the sold, how can it remainwhole? We make music for a strip
of holes, but no music tothink. That's the short term money that
we put in the bank. Butthe dramas going backwards, I see devolution
(47:39):
instead of evolution. This is soleprostitution. The children are fumbling, even
got the elders and carriage and muffling. Watching them stumbling, then you have
today. It's so humbling. Meanwhile, our stock has been plummeted, and
they're telling me I need to soundlike these other niggas grown ass men.
Trying to sound like the younger niggasused to have balance. Back in the
(48:00):
days we had talent. Trying tobe original was the challenge. Now all
these niggas sound the same, andall the beats, talent the same,
the same kase the same trumps.All that shit sounded lange johny niggas trying
to sound like future and a loverocking future. But that's why it's a
feature. To think you niggas needa different producer. Hope that bullshit crash
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