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Who will hip hop beat thirty yearsfrom now? I guess I should keep
studying my pears for now. ShouldI make a dance and snap dumbs?
Fast, high hats, eight awayback trumps? Are we selling enough souls
for thirty three pieces a go?If it's lack of the soul, how
can it remain hole? We makemusic for a strip of holes, but
no music to think that's the shortterm money that we're put in the bank.
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But the dramas going backwards. Isee devolution instead of evolution. This
is sole prostitution. The children arefumbling, even got the elders and carriage
and mumbling. Watching them stumbling,then you have to tell you it's so
humbling. Meanwhile, I stock hasbeen plummeted, and they're telling me I
need to sound like the other niggas. Grown ass men trying to sound like
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the younger niggas. Used to havebalance Back in the days we had talent.
Trying to be original was the challenge. Now all these niggas sound the
same, and all the beats talentthe same same. Katie Saint Trump's all
that shit sounded change twenty niggas tryingto sound like Feature and I love rocking
future. But that's try it afeature that your niggas need a different producer.
Hope the bullshit crash your computer andit'll be cool about being the Lisa
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Brothers and Sisters. You're tuned intoanother episode of the Gospel of Malcolm X's
podcast. I am your host,brother Eric. As always, it is
my pleasure to be back and inthe studio with you once again. I
like to take the time out,as I always do, to give a
special shout out to all of thebrothers and sisters that show your love and
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support to the Gospel of Malcolm X'spodcast. I always appreciate it. So
today's topic and we'll try to makeit a quick show, but I don't
know how long it's gonna go.So and it's a shame to be covering
this in the middle of the genocidethat's taking place in Gaza, because I've
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been covering a lot of that materialand I'm gonna be God willing getting back
into it more so. But Ifelt it important to cover this topic because
it hits so close to home witha lot of the people that I associate
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with, and I think that overallblack black men, we're suffering from a
maturity problem. A lot of usare too focused on sports, too caught
up in our egos to really giveour families the love that they need.
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To be better husbands to our wives, to be better for fathers, for
our children, et cetera. Andthe example that I'm going to talk about
today with Rick Ross, meek Mill, Jim Jones is it's going to be
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just a highlight of some of theproblems in our community. These type of
men and their responses, their responsesto truth. It's going to highlight some
of the most problematic things that weare facing in the Black community. Especially
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if we want to be leaders,and we're the leaders of the black community,
and we want to lead the womenwe want we want women to be
submissive to us, right, orI'll use the word cooperative, because the
word submission, I think is whatever. But I don't think there's anything wrong
for a man to expect to havea cooperative partner, right and not to
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have to have a bad of relationship. I don't feel like there's anything misogynistic
about that. But you have tobe a worthy leader. You have to
be an accountable man, right,someone that a woman can respect and we're
going to see today, and I'mgoing to highlight three examples of men that
are prominent and wealthy Black men,prominent and I won't say wealthy, but
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rich, respected in the quote unquoteculture. And look at how they respond
to someone that's holding them accountable fortheir role in the destruction of their own
community, poisoning their own community withlyrics with a message about drugs and murder
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and destruction, etc. When someoneholds them accountable for that, they can't
just say, hey, I waswrong or this is wrong, or you
know what, you're right about this, you're right about that, or I
don't like the way you said this, but you're right or whatever. No
accountability at all, And they actuallydon't none of them actually address the topic
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at all that the young man checkedthem on. I'm going to play the
video clips in the second and onceagain we're talking about Meek Milk, Jim
Jones, Jim Jones, and RickRoss. None of them actually addressed the
topic that the young man called themout on. Instead, they just snapped
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on him. They made fun ofhis hairstyle, fun of his accent,
completely deflecting from the message that hewas brought forth. And this is something
that goes on in our community alot of times. Right when someone is
trying to talk about something serious,something uplifting, doing better, etc.
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We snap on the person's clothes.Oh, you don't have on the name
brand clothes that is really made inChina and sold to you by some European
company or some white company, right, because you don't have on that particular
name brand, the Nikes, theJordan's, the Gooky whatever, other brands
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that are non black brands that don'tbring in any profit to the people that's
wearing them besides them promoting them andmaking them more profit profitable for their uh,
for the for the European community orthe white community, whoever owns them,
whatever non black entity owns them.You know, because you don't have
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those brands, suddenly, uh,you know, you're not a worthy person.
Or because you're not rich. Shutup, you broke right. If
you're not rich, then suddenly you'renot a worthy person. So you have
to have money in this system andbe able to afford European brands in order
to have an opinion. So Idon't want to take up too much time.
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Let me load up the first clip, and this is d one.
I believe he is from New Orleans. He's a rapper, a teacher,
and he explained some of his hisbackground and in this video he makes a
challenge to these brothers, Rick Ross, Meek Mill, and Jim Jones to
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do better. And I don't reallyhave a problem with anything that he said
in the video or how he deliveredit. I don't think he was mean
in terms of how he delivered it. Jim Jones, you could do better.
Brother. I love you too much. I love you too much to
not be honest with you. RickRoss, you could do better. Brother,
Meek Mill, you could do better. Brother. I love you too
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much not to be honest with you. Are you to face a prison reform
because I had? Are you toface a prison reform or are you sitting
here on your new song with Rosstalking about getting somebody marked and shot at
the red light? Which one isit? Bro? Which one is it?
Bro? Because I did a shoegiveaway in my city and gave out
thirteen hundred pairs of your shoes becausethey say a reform underneath them, and
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I loved it. You partnered witha major shoe company and you out here
pushing prison reform, But now Igot to sit here like, man,
this man glorifying getting people killed asof a week ago. Like what are
you doing? Bro? Little Snoopreally got killed, that broke your heart.
You weigh him around your neck?Why are you glorifying the same thing
when my best friend got killed,When Carl got killed New Orleans know who
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I'm talking about. When Carl gotkilled and I had to go to his
funeral and read the eulogy and bepart of the funeral. And I got
back in my call sway after thefuneral and I turned on my music and
I realized I'm listening to music that'sglorifying the same stuff that just happened to
my best friend. It gave mechills and I needed that moment. That
was my come to Jesus moment oflike, Dee, you gotta do something
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different, brother, cause because youhave a taste for this poison, but
you you're attracted to the poison.And rap is great, the rap game,
hip hop industry is great at cookingup some delicious poison. I don't
call you off because I got aproblem with you, man, Like I
wish we could go get lunch rightnow, me and any them I love
you too much to not be honestwith you. There you go. That's
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what it is, bro. Andso if anybody, yeah, if anybody
feel bad about being called out,it's like, let's talk, let's talk,
let's talk about it, and let'sjust figure out what we can do
better. But at the end ofthe day, guess what's not changing.
The word of God ain't changing.There's death in life in the power of
the tongue Proverbs eighteen and twenty one. That's not changing. And trying with
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this foolish argument that it's just it'sjust entertainment. This ain't real. How
many more people got to die inthe hood, man, how many people
at the end of the day livesgot to get ruined and poisoned, and
how many rappers got to get killedfor us to be like, come on,
man, when it's hip hop,it's a whole culture, and it's
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implied that this is autobiographical and thisis nonfiction. So I like how he
he took away one of the argumentsthat we hear a lot, Oh I'm
just telling the story or whatever,and he says, when it's hip hop,
it's already implied that it's autobiographical,which means it's you telling your story
and that it's nonfictional, meaning thatthe story is real. So when you
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say I shot such and such andsuch, or I did such and such
and such, et cetera, youknow, kill such and such and such,
that is all number one autobiographical tocoming from first person point of view,
and that it's nonfictional, it's expectedto be real and tells that people
are telling how much does that haveto happen? So don't hit me with
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that. People just don't want toconfront the reality of this stuff. I
hear some people saying, why wouldyou publicly challenge certain artists that a glorifying
murder and drug dealing and negativity andtheir music. The better question is why
would you not If they have theaudacity to publicly push these messages out there
and reach the masses with them,then we should have the audacity to publicly
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oppose these messages. It don't golike, oh, you could put all
that home stuff out there and reachwhoever you want loudly and proudly. We
gotta hit you up one on oneon the cool like if we got an
issue with it, we gotta saysomething behind the scenes and quietly because we
don't want to offend you. Ifwe're trying to do Guard's work. It
don't work like that. See,for the first time, a line is
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being drawn, and that line ismaking people uncomfortable because you haven't decide what
side you on. Are you onthe side that's okay with their messages and
okay with the impact of those negativemessages? All you on the side that's
like now, we ain't rocking withthat. Derriman and a lot of people
never had to decide which side ofthe line that was on, and it's
making people uncomfortable right now. That'snot gonna make me quiet. That's not
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gonna make us quiet, because whenyou're doing Guard's work, it ain't something
to be quiet about. It's somethingto be proud of. Nick Neil,
you can do better, Jump Jones, you can do better. Rick Brawll,
you okay. So here here isRick Ross responding, and you can
see already he starts off in away of trying to be funny, because
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it's a way of not being seriousand deflecting. And this is a problem
we are all of the men thatwe're I'm talking about here from Rick Ross
to meet Mill or whatever. Ithink Mick Mill has got to be close
to forty. If he's not forty, Rick Ross has got to be close,
probably closer to fifty. I'm gonnalook up all over the ages and
tell you in just a second.And Jim Jones, I think just turned
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fifty. So these are middle agedblack men OG's in the community, right
at least at the age that theyshould be OG's in the community. And
if these are our leaders, rightquote unquote, leaders that don't have accountability,
are deflecting and joking, and we'regonna get in with Jim Jones.
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He actually gets into sending some threatswhich I'm going to address. And when
we go to the Jim Jones section, but this right here is Meek Mill's
response. So let me see ifI can get that. So Mick Miller
is thirty six years old, sohe's four years away from from forty.
Rick Ross, let's get his age. He's forty seven years old, so
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he is kicking he's kicking fifties doordown. And Jim Jones is forty seven
years old as well, So theseguys are fifty way more salt in Jim
Jones beard. Then there's Pepper.He got a lot of great hairs,
but does he have the wisdom tomatch those great hairds that he had?
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So I'm gonna go ahead and getinto the Jim Jones part. I mean,
not the Jim Jones part, theRick Ross part. Then we're going
to get into the Jim Jones response. I believe that Meek Mill responded through
a post, but I don't believehe's done any type of interview yet.
And you can tell that there's ahostility and a hit dog will always holler.
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Let me say that before I playedthe clip as well, A hit
dog will holler. So the factthat they have responded this way lets you
know that they went out of theway to come in reply to this because
it hit them somewhere. I hitdog, w' holler. It hit them,
but not hit them in a wayto make them want to be accountable,
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and hit them in a way tomake them deflect, make them angry,
upset, make them want to threatenpeople, et cetera. Nick Neil,
you could do better. Jim Jone, you can do better. Rawl
you could do better. I gottasee you do better. Wait, wait,
little man, whoever you is,until you feed the kids where you're
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from for twenty years straight. Don'tquestion rose. Wait, wait until you
buy ten thousand bikes, ten thousandtrikes, give all the young girls who
are preynant pampers for Christmas for twentyyears straight. Don't question bosths. Jar
me, little man, get thatbasket off your head so you could think
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clear little man. Okay, SoI want to respond to two different things,
and I want to let the restof the gym the Rick Ross clip
play. So he says, untilyou buy twenty thousand dollars worth of turkeys,
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ten thousand dollars worth of bikes andtrikes or whatever, then don't question
me. So this kind of remindsme of the Nino Brown thing. Nino
Brown, if you don't know,is a quote unquote fictional character that's really
based off of thousands of real charactersin black neighborhoods from the movie knuw Jack
City who sold drugs heroin, madea bunch of junkies poisonous neighborhood, ran
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up the crime, took over theabandoned building in the neighborhood, turned it
into a drug factory, and floodedhis neighborhood with dope and made his neighbor
and just downtrotted his neighborhood. However, one of the things that he would
do is he would give out turkeys. But what if you trash the neighborhood
three hundred and sixty four days ofthe year. What difference does it make
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if on Thanksgiving one day of theyear you give out turkeys when you're responsible
for all of the trashing and chaoticstuff that goes on in the neighborhood in
the first place, Like, you'rethe reason why these people need your free
turkey in the quote unquote free turkey, because it's not really free because they're
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paying for it through having to livein the neighborhood that's flooded with drugs and
crime and abandoned houses, etc.Where their mom is on crack and their
dad is in jail, and you'recontributing to their neighborhood essentially being an open
air prison. So, like whatwe talk about over and with gaysan a
lot of black neighborhoods are are arenot too much different. Right. They
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have the ability to cut the wateroff and cut the electricity off there too.
And we're going to talk about aninstance in which that was done.
But to just stay on the subject. This is like the Nino Brown type
of thinking, where I can Ican sell you poison and destruction through my
music, talking about I think I'mbig meach, I think I'm all of
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these drug dealers. Even named himselfafter Freeway Rick Ross, who was a
huge drug dealer who later ended uptestifying that basically he was selling drugs in
his community on behalf of the powersthat be, so to speak. Right,
so to kind of have this mindsetthat, Okay, don't question me
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for poisoning you and your community threehundred and sixty four days of the year
because when Thanksgiving comes around, Igive out turkeys. I give out bikes
and trikes, which you know,if I didn't contribute to uh, to
your downtroadness, you might not evenneed them in the first place. So
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this, once again, this kindof just deals with the immaturity of it,
you know, like this just kindof deals with this is the problem
that we have as a people,is that we're thinking that the ends justify
the means. This very very muchreminds me of the slave trade. And
when you I have to play theseclips. One day, there was a
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brother who I met, Dinosameir.He went over to Africa and he did
this, He interviewed this. Hewas like in the slave castle and they
were showing him the things that theytraded slaves for. And it was like
literally like ten slaves for an umbrella, forty slaves for a battle of rum.
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I mean, like crazy stuff.And we're talking about human beings being
traded for these small European commodities,and that's essentially what's happening here. It's
like, Okay, I'm willing topoison my community with the message of drug
dealing and killing each other in destructionso that I can afford the gucci that
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these rappers rap about, all threeof them, and I can afford the
Louis Vatana they rap about, andI can afford such and such brand at
the expense of poisoning you and tomake myself feel better about it. You
know, when Thanksgiving comes around,eat this butter ball, nigga, and
don't question me about it. Getthat basket off your head so you could
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think. Clear, little man,you're going viral for speaking on niggas names,
not because he no talent, notbecause of your gifts. Go viral.
Player off of your your wisdom thatyou're sharing. You're speaking on Big
Bill. You said, well,you know what I mean. The niggas
died the summer they release selfish structure. It's niggas dying right now. That's
gonna be niggas. Don't make itto see in the morning. Get that
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basket off your head, boy,and come together with real niggas around the
world. So when your grandma needa kidney, niggas. Since you want
to go viral, I'm gonna showyou how to go viral, little man.
But go viral. Feed them kidsin your hood, go viral,
giving them bikes away. Go viralChristmas time. Now you'll be there.
Jim Dog Jim Jones just gave awaygoddamn six figures were for clothes in his
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hood. And you a nigga whotalking looking vegan, knowing you eat more
goddamn bigly wiggly bacon than any othernigga out here. Shut up. Yeah,
mister Rosskon. And see this iscrazy. Like this guy never said
he was vegan. I haven't heardhim talk about veganism at all. And
he's like, you look vegan,and you know you eat bacon like where
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does this come from? Like RickRonson looks like he eats bacon like and
then the justification doing this for moneybecause we starving or whatever. Respectfully,
Rick Ross looks like he wasn't missingany meals before rap, So you know
when when was he missing males?That then he was starving to the point
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where he had to you know,sell out his community and in order to
uh make a living and rap.So that's just crazy stuff, man,
it's stuff you getting. Man,make shure go viron Thanksgiving when your stuff
the stuff in front the turkey bumberclock, ashole, make sure dangles from
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the neck. Start with the oldlady, then bless the old lady all
the way down to the youth.You understand, rosta man and little man.
I know real rosters with you arefar from Jurmi. Rick Ross.
First of all, I love you, brother, and I want you to
know that because you signed it alittle all right. So this is d
one responding back to him, andyou can see he's responding back to him
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in love, et cetera, sayinghey, I love you brother, wise
you bla and you know he's gonnayou know, I address how Rick Ross
has been deflecting. I'll let itplay here, upsetting your video reply to
me, But I love you toomuch to not be honest with you,
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and right now you're deflecting. Iwas talking about your lyrical content and you
talking about turkey. I'm talking aboutyou as a hip hop og, still
glorifying murder and drug dealing in yourmusic, and you're talking about turkeys.
Bro, More people are streaming yourmusic than eating your turkey. As you
can believe that, brother, Oh, then you can make fun of my
accent in my head. Brother,that's lightweight. Here. What am I
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doing to help my community? Withmy whole adult life? I've been a
middle school teacher. Now I'm afull time hip hop artist. Just dropped
my tenth album. It's called UNo you should check it out. Actually,
I've helped to give out hundreds ofthousands of dollars in college scholarships for
students around this country, done financialliteracy towards year after year, Brother Shoe
drives, toy drives, voter registrationrallies, prison ministry. I'm currently a
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professor at tough Sho University, teachingthe intersection at hip hop and social change,
and I'm a fellow at Harvard University. Ultimately, I'm just trying my
best to do guage work in thisindustry. Bro. Then you said,
won't I go viral with my owncontent? Brother, you a little late
to the party. I've been successfulfor a while, man, and not
having to glorify the things that's harmfulto our community. Could you do that?
I'm curious, Bore. I workwith some of the same artists as
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you. The game Loope, bigcrit juvenile man in fresh currency, Kevin
Gates, sways, charloam mane.These people know me man. So as
black men, let's do our bestto do guage work and not glorify what's
holding us down. Man. Sothat was his message, and I don't
think that there was anything wrong withhis message at all. I think that
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there's something wrong with them. Imean, I know it's not all of
us. I'm not talking about everyblack black male man. A lot of
them are black males, but I'mnot talking about every black man. But
we have an immaturity issue in theblack community as men. Seriously, I
know that right now the women arebeing targeted heavy when we're looking at the
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I think she calls ourselves sexy Redsand the Sukashi or whatever she calls herself.
We can see that they are workinghard on making Black women even more
degenerate than previous generations. They're workinghard on it. But if we are
saying that we are men, andwe are leaders, and we are the
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fathers in the community, we're thehusbands, etc. Then we control the
direction of hip hop, at leastwe should. We can control the direction
of the quote unquote culture. Howwe dress, what we wear, what
we talk to each other, likethe calling each other niggas and fictions and
using that kind of language. It'ssomething that became popular because that's something that
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black men do. The style ofdress and the wearing of Jordan's and the
baggy pants and all of the stuffor whatever, because that's what black men
do. The women shaking their assesand everything they can. Who started to
the back that ass up tracks andstuff like that. Black men invented invented
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those tracks, and you know,women went along with it and really got
into it. And but I reallyfeel like we could move the culture in
a different way, just like inprevious generations where we sung about love's love
and we had love songs with theMarvin Gaye and the Motown sound and the
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Stevie Wonders and the Temptations, etcetera. I'm not saying that things were
perfect, but we had more families, just like now we have some good,
strong Black families despite this culture thatwe have. Back then though we
had even more. We had evenmore fathers and homes, husbands, etcetera,
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etcetera, etcetera. When the contentof the music was focused on love,
it raises the vibration of the community. And guess what was happening during
that time when the content of musicwas focused on love. That's during the
time of the civil rights movement.We were changing the community completely. You
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know, this was the sixties,in the early seventies, et cetera.
Where change was being made because familieswere being kept together and why were they
being able to function that such ahigh vibration. The music plays a huge
role in that, and they wererevolutionary based songs as well. When we
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talk about, you know, MarvinGaye's What's going on, one of the
things I didn't know, and Igot to give a shout out to Shabaz
Productions, is that the song fromI believe it's called the impression came out
in nineteen sixty four. It's calledKeep on Pushing, and Curtis Mayfield,
I believe, sings on that trackand he probably produced it as well.
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And that song was a song thatbrother Malcolm love. I got to keep
on Pushing, and it's about pushingthrough the struggle. I gotta keep going,
I Gotta keep going. And thatis the theme song for a soundtrack
to a movement, And what isthe soundtrack to Today's Time with Sexy Red
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and Nicki Minag and Rick Ross andJim Jones or whatever. So I respect
this brother for putting his career onlineon the line, and apparently with some
of the threats that I'm about toplay from Jim Jones, putting his life
on the line, et cetera,to confront this and to raise this topic.
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And I think that the way thatthese three individuals responded to it,
and I'll see if I can findMeek Mills's response in the second here after
I'll get into it after Jim Jones, the way that these three individuals responded
just confirms the immaturity. I reallyreally, really really really do a lot
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for the people. He talked aboutlyrics, I don't care about none of
that, Okay, in real life, in a real life, I do
a lot for the people. Missme with the rhetoric about what So once
again he said he talked about lyrics. What does Jim Jones say. I
don't care about none of that.I do with my music. I get
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money off of my music. Don'ttell me how to make my dollars.
You gotta watch whose names you mentionedin out here you heard, because my
little cousin might not like how youmentioned my name you heard, and then
he might want to slap a droidout your head just because he don't understand
that you're using my name for fame, and he don't understand that a certain
way to go about certain things,when you're using certain people name, when
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you do certain things, it's areaction for every action. It's out.
Now. The ain't no best wayto have a conversation. He got to
see me when you see me.Now, if he reached out, he
had he had the chance, hecould have reached out. That that avenue
of talking to me is out thatyou heard. I had the same conversation
with Fireco. How did that go? He's summoned me for saying his name.
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Oh okay, yeah, yeah,yeah you did. Yeah. If
you know now what you're talking about, young man, let me school you
to what you're doing. And yeah, it is music. So in a
bit of music, you do get. Yeah, you do get what you
get. You heard. But we'restill in the entertainment business. But miss
me with the bullshit you heard whenyou see me, keep your hand down.
You heard where you're from New Orleans? Play with me like that.
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People from New Orleans already call me. You heard you, preacher. Get
out of here you all right?So he's saying people from New Orleans already
called me you preacher, et cetera. Right, And and then you hear
Jim Jones guy on the side.He says, he told too. So
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since we're gonna talk about tell him. After this clip finishes playing, I'm
gonna play a wire tap, uh, a wire tap recorded conversation with Jim
Jones. Now, this wire tapwas recorded by the FEDS with Jim Jones
on there making threats, not evenveiled threats, open threats in that case.
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Here he makes veiled threats toward Done, but in this wire tap
conversation he makes some veiled threats.So we ain't gonna get into no,
no, we got we got otherthings we could go. But listen,
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I t fifth by the let's notwe don't. Let's not do that.
Come on, come on, Jim. But let's say. What I'm saying
is I'm glad you he's not bro. Let's not even talk about him,
and let me also make this comment. And you notice it's the same similar
thing with Rick Ross. It's like, hey, instead of a dressing the
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issue of the content of what hesaid, I'll just make fun of him.
You know what I mean, basket, heead you got locks, you're
a preacher, whatever the case is, right, So instead of addressing the
content, uh what he actually said, We're just gonna talk about how you
look. Let's move on. Idon't really care about him. He's a
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figment of my imagination. Well,he say this, reprimanded for less,
I promise you just niggas wi wrinkleyour shirt for for way less than that.
Yeah, I will say he's he'sbeen putting in work for years and
that's the first three he said.He's seen people reprimanded, but less niggas
will wrinkle your shirt for way lessthan that. Yeah, he's been all
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over the country. He's work obviouslynot working for him because he's using other
people name. If he was doingsomething from a sad he shouldn't used nobody
else's name. If you've been outsidedoing that work, that that's it.
I don't want to go back andforth. I just want y'all to know
he's been and he's done work.He does work in a different area,
keep doing work. You heard.Okay, leave me out of that.
You heard. I promise you leaveme out of that. I'm scared for
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anybody that bothers me. I don'twant no I don't want no drum.
I don't want you mentioned my namebecause I don't want no drum. I
don't want to get attitude because youmentioned my name for no reason. I
don't even want to get into that. You know I'm you know, I
guess I start, I start glitchingand ship like that. You heard.
You got me very upset about this. Bro Let me know what you do
besides preacher to the people. Brokeyou heard, well, you want to
do something some positive and do somethingfor the people instead of talking holler at
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me bro to y'all. I didn'trealize because I just made a video response
to Jim Jones responding to d One, I didn't realize all right, all
right, I think that might bethe end of the clip there. Once
again though, just very immature typeof responses. At the end he seemed
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to kind of so we can seethey're just kind of, you know,
immature responses. But at the endthere it seems like Jim tried to He
tried to tighten it up some andsay, whenever you you want to do
something, let me know. Butbefore that he was saying I don't want
to have a conversation. I thinkthat maybe sway and saying that, yo,
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this guy really does put in work, et cetera. So but because
Niching was mentioned, I do needto play this this wiretap conversation that was
recorded with Jim Jones. He's onthe wired tap talking to his good friend
Mel Murder, who I think wentaway, meaning like he's doing time.
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Subsequent to this conversation. Did Isave it in my clip? I know,
sometimes I don't save everything. Letme just pull it up off the
strength. Okay, here we go. What's going on YouTube? Coming back
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at to another video? Now gotthe audio of this phone call between Mel
Murder and Jim Jones. They're talkingabout six' nine, talking about Shoddy,
talking about TMZ. It's a lotgoing on in this phone call.
Let's check it out and listen realquick. He definitely, he definitely,
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definitely really inshoty right now. Butwell, he got to put you up
here next to the pooch, youlike when you go to you Shool the
world star. You got his picturenext to the ship. Every thing.
He says, you gotta pitch greenwith shot and put it next to the
ship. I said, this iscrazy, sir, But he's going that.
He's going out to eighteen nine.Think he don't got no relationship the
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boys. Boy, that's what he'strying to do. That's what he's trying
to do. He's trying to literallyhe's trying to shuff with your ship.
That's cool, but man, yougotta get violated. Yeah, super Valley,
super super doual. So ain't toomuch he what he do unless he
got by the way one hundred allsecurities in the old days. You know
what I'm saying, He's gonna gettry to play. He ain't getting enough
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money for that. That's a fact. That's a fact. Ain't just canceling
all his shows. I ain't evenain't never no more, Nah ain't nothing.
That's what nig That's that's what shot. He needs to make sure.
Nah. He's trying to Nigga thathe's not a game member no more.
He he kicked out the whip.He was never a gag number. Nigga
shot exposingly supposed to do. Hegot a TMZ TMZ want to talk the
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niggas on Monday? You want me? I think he said, you don't
need to be on no TMS.Shot to be on teams. I'm not
gonna get on it. But hewanted me to talk a little. What
have a little? Am I not? First? You feel me? You
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don't say nothing that shot? Hehandle that ship, Bro, you don't
say nothing. Don't say that nahshot. He got to handle that ship.
He get on TMZ. He needto talk his talking and talk his
ship. You did, and heneeded to be very very very articulate about
what he's saying. Why he took, why he made people think that Nigga
was a gang member. He needsto let niggas know that he was never
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a gag member. He was alwaysa money money played for the gag members.
You gotta figure it out. Butthey're gonna have to violate Shorty.
Get Shorty on some bullshit. Besure that he's gonna be going to the
strip clubs and all that type ofship like, So they better get on
his egg game. I already noexciting, not even a demon homie,
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not like this'n she's got even chinshuna value under this up. You lose
no more. This is all youhave. Well, she better get to
violate, and you better stop Shorty. Ever he moved one of them.
Security, better get hit something,something better happens. Better start mall.
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He better start doing some Once hestarted tearing the security down, ain't no
security going. We're gonna want thatjob. He's gonna have to stay in
the house tree soon. That's it. That's what happens once one security get
injured. Them niggas like, nah, he's too much of a laugh.
All right. So what we're listeningto here, and this audio is from
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less than six years ago, SoJim Jones was still in his forties,
comfortable in his forties, maybe fortytwo something like that. Forty two year
old man Gray has in a beard, basically glorifying a gang member lifestyle,
saying such and such is not agang member, and of course he's saying
(38:28):
such and such needs to be Andhe's talking about six y nine here.
If you don't know who that is, it was an internet rapper at one
time that became famous or whatever,and he was being used by this particular
game. And Jim Jones says asmuch right openly on wiretaps, saying he
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needs to be violated, saying,Okay, if we can't get him,
we'll target his security until his securitywon't work for him anymore, and then
we'll get him basically after he doesn'thave security anymore. So he's definitely in
terms of rico and racketeering and stufflike that. This falls right in line
with that. And the fact thathe wasn't prosecuted for the things that he
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said in this conversation shows you thatmaybe he was cooperating in some type of
way. Right, we can't usethe word snitch because there's no paperwork,
but I would say that in thewords of doctor Umar, it's highly suspicious.
Don't you find it suspicious that JimJones is on a wire tap saying
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that someone needs to be violated andsuper violated and attack your security. We'll
get to him or whatever, andnothing happens of it. On a case
where people went it's not like nobodywent down. On this case. The
guy who he's talking to went downsix' nine. He's out of jail
now because he snitched, but hewent down. All of the members that
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are part of this thing went down, But Jim Jones ever went down.
Ain't guy, I'm not gonna I'mnot going to protect nobody to know that
it's causing harm to That's all theseniggas gotta say what that niggas know.
Men, Bro, we're going tothe security. And he said, we're
not protecting anybody that's calling causing harmto us, meaning that he's already on
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here basically saying that he's a memberof the gang, which is illegal in
itself. Yeah, bro, we'renot even worried about Bro. You you
ain't even think you ain't even werun into the security. Yep, let
niggas start doing that. The securitygonna be like, listen, bro,
I ain't in it for this.Bro. You don't have to. You
have to do this on your owntime. Bro, you can't. The
security out of New York can't runaround with fire on them. Nah,
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the niggas or unless they unless theyex policeman don't matter at that time.
But they're doing an legal job.Big, they don't matter because they shout
adn't run down on them. Theycan't put the gun off to shoot nobody
unless a gun was pulled out.All right, So here we hear the
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whole conspiracy here. He's like runup on their security. They can't pull
out a gun unless a gun ispulled out, shoddy will run down on
him, et cetera. This isthis is textbook conspiracy. I mean,
this is him talking to someone elseand conspiring to basically get at six y
nine by way of attacking his security, et cetera. You know, And
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they said that the Feds said thatone of the reasons why they stepped in
and pulled six' nine out wasbecause they believed that he was in harm.
He was in harm's way, andI wouldn't be surprised if he was
a plant the whole entire time.And I only played this because they mentioned
(41:49):
something about, Oh he told,and they mentioned something about about Snachon And
to Jim Jones credit, he saidthat he didn't want to get into it,
but I felt like going to talkabout section. Then we really got
to talk about talk about it allthe way cooperation, et cetera. And
I'm not the first person to evermention this with Jim Jones as well also
(42:12):
brought the same piece of information tothe light. Let me see if I
can find out what Meek Mill's responsewas, and then we'll get ready to
wrap up the show. I dowant to talk about some of the stuff
going on in Gaza to conclude,to conclude the show, because I would
(42:34):
much rather be talking about that thanthey have to deal with this. But
yet in still, let's see,all right, So this is from November
two, Meek Mill response to thisfrom rapper d one against him, Rick
Ross and Jim Jones recently caught somestrays from underground New Orleans rapper d one,
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who called them out on Sway's Universerecently. Nevertheless, he continued,
I was rapping this way when Ibecame the face of reform. That's how
I got there. Y'all forgot thatfast. So let's see. So that's
(43:19):
what Meek Mill's response was, Andto be honest with you, out of
the three, I would say thatMeek Mill had probably the most mature response.
He still didn't address what he wastalking about, but at least the
statement that he gave was a factualstatement. Is that that's the way he
got there in the first place,which we have to even question, like
(43:43):
because he got to prison reform basicallybecause he ended up going away and being
caught up in all the stuff thathe raps about. Right, so he's
a product of all of that.But the question we have to ask is
why is that music being promoted somuch in the first place. Is it
coming by way of us or isit coming by way of someone else.
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Now, it looks like Rick Rossrecently put out an album. It may
have been an independent album, andbasically they're saying it was a brick is
basically flop flopping. Now, ifhe was on a record label and he
was talking about the things that he'stalking about, drugs and etc. Etc.
And moving bricks and moving all that, not the bricks that his album
(44:30):
just did, but like you know, cocaine, etc. If he was
talking about that kind of stuff,usually the record label will make sure that
you don't throw up no bricks.They will go out of that way with
promotion marketing rollouts, et cetera.You know, so, I find the
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majority of the response to this Ifind to be very immature. I still
will say that I think Meek Millprobably had the most mature response because he
basically almost said nothing to it atall. But basically, yo, like,
this is how I got here,and that's true, you know,
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so I mean that that pretty muchis what it is. So to go
ahead and close out the segment.I've been following Bi Song, who is
a Palestinian journalist, and she basicallyis documenting the Knockbuck, which is basically
the displacement of Palestinians from their homelandoff of the land. And when you
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are looking at hundreds of thousands ofPalestinians being pushed from the North Gaysa to
the south and then military blockades beingput up, meaning they won't be able
to go back to North Gayza anytimesoon. If ever, it remembers it
reminds them of the time where whentheir land was completely taken from them.
(46:04):
And this looks like this may bepotentially what's being done now. I've already
talked about the huge amount of oilreserves that have been found over and uh
Over in in Gaza, where it'sestimated, based on the clip that we
listen to from Immortal Technique, thatthere's trillions of dollars in oil potentially over
(46:36):
in Gaza. So my last pointthat I want to make is that I
really do not feel that Benjamin netand Yahoo gives a fuck about the Israeli
hostages. So not only does henot care about the people of Palestine and
their civilian population, et cetera,I really don't feel like he cares about
(47:00):
the hostages. I have a clip. I hope this is the right place,
but I will I was watching thespeech of his last night. I'll
play it from here and then i'lladdress some of the stuff that he talks
about in here. If it loads, what about what the president has been
(47:22):
saying publicly and saying privately to you. Here's what he said today, the
president. Are you frustrated with partamitedprojected? Oh man, of course it
starts freezing on me. Give mejust a second. So basically, even
Biden was what was happening to thatclip is even Biden was saying that he
(47:45):
was he was hoping that the aidwould get in faster, et cetera.
Let's see something here in and southwestGaza, below the fighting area, south
(48:16):
of the fighting era. We've pushedin humanitarian aid to help those civilians,
and I think it's a company.Oh man. All right, So apparently
all my other clips played, butthis one is not going to go.
So I will go ahead and getthings fight. Don't give them safe favored,
(48:39):
but allow the Palestinian civilian population toreach a safe zone, mister Prime
Minister. As you know, eventhose in the south say they do not
feel safe. President French President EmmanuelMaccrue, all right, I just got
to give it up. So yeah, has said there is quote no justification
for the ongoing bombing of civilians allover the world. You've seen protesters who
(49:01):
are calling for all right, I'llstop it there. So yeah, the
French president even called them out.We know how horrible and brutal colonial France
was, and Haiti and all partsof Africa, Cameroon and Senegal and just
completely brutes. But this level ofbrutality that they've been watching, I guess
(49:24):
in modern France, we know thatthey still have their hands in Haiti and
still have their hand over in Africaand the Congo and all of those regions.
We know that they still are.I think Bikina Fosso as well,
another place where they have their handin, and they played their role in
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Thomas and Kawra's assassination and taking himout. But even there, their president
is saying that this, this levelof brutality towards the Palestinian civilian population,
we're not even talking about so onsoldier stuff, just bombing away at hospitals
(50:09):
and churches and just people's neighborhoods beingleveled to the ground is absolutely crazy.
So we will be talking about thatsome more of this week. And also
the Benjamin net Yahoo's complete this regardfor the what do you call it,
(50:30):
the the Israeli hostages. I findthat to be more problematic than I mean,
not even more problematic. It's allproblematic, but the fact that he
has so much hate in terms ofgoing after the Palestinians, that he's shown
(50:52):
complete this regard even for the Israelihostages, is you know, crazy.
Let me see, I really wantto play this clip. I don't want
to let it go, but itkeeps freezing and nothing else is frozen today,
which is crazy. You know,nothing else is frozen. Okay,
(51:15):
let's see let's see if I canpull this up here, the same passage
of civilians laying from the zone offighting. And we're doing that, and
in fact, we did one today, we did one yesterday, and I
assume do one tomorrow. Because ourgoal isn't to fight the Palastinian civilians,
it's to fight the amos terrist andwe make a distinction between the two.
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They don't about what the President hasbeen saying publicly and saying privately to you,
here's what you said today about tradingwith pregnant and forgetting Yah. You
have not listening more because the thingyou had asked him to do. Take
it a little longer, and Ihope what about that. Let's take it
a little longer than idle. Youcould do it very fast, but be
(51:58):
up. I the condition on theground, safety of robins, the hot
seasons we want to get out,and the manager inquirers we want to affect,
which, as I said, ispreventing by using its own Palestinian civilians
from leaving. So it's taken alittle while, but I think we share
a common goal and I very muchappreciate the support of the President Biden show
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administration show and frankly, the Americanpeople show and in the Congress is show
and both sides of the art.That's that's very very that's the American support
president. Deeply, speaking of Congress, we just had a congressman from Michigan
censured by the House of Representatives.Congress from cheated to leave us the one.
(52:49):
I'm refusing to let this go.Okay, I think it might be
in this one you all have.But look at the old Nazis. The
Allies were attacked by Hitler, andso they invaded France and then Germany.
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And when they did that, theywent into the cities. They had to
fight the German army that was oftenembedded in civilians in the city, civilian
neighbor and many civilians were killed.So who was the flame laid on that?
They say, well, the Nazisare the Allies are the Allies should
stop fighting. But they said,look, use as judiciously as you can,
(53:32):
but don't give the Nazis any refuge. Beat the Nazis, which is
what we're doing, using force inthe judicious way. But we have to
defeat these new Nazis and we willour sake. I want to ask about
the hostages thousands of railies, includingfamilies of hostages, rallied this weekend right
across the street from where you areright now. They're very frustrated that they're
(53:57):
not getting more information from you andwhether they loved ones are believe that the
government, your government is not doingenough to get them back. What do
you say to them? It's understandable. They're under a tremendous distress. They're
under this torture. You can imaginethat of your your father, your husband,
your son, daughter taken by thesesavages. Are you doing it?
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We're doing everything we can around theclock, and I can't talk about it.
I personally met with the hostage offamilies, the families of hostages several
times, and it's just tears yourheart up. But yes, we're doing
everything and many things that I can'tsay here obviously. But this is one
of our two burgos. One isto destroy hamas and the second is to
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bring back our hostages and do everythingwe can so they're more more so,
he said, one is to destroya moss and two is to bring back
the hostages. So it's almost asif but you know that the hostages are
embedded with quote unquote Hamas. Soyou're just bombing away at them, indiscriminately,
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leveling neighborhoods, et cetera. Thenchances are you're going to kill hostages
as well. Right if the hostagesare in the room with Hamas leaders or
whatever, and you drop a bombon that building or whatever the case is,
you think that the bomb is justgoing to say, oh, this
(55:28):
is a Hamas leader just going tokill them, and it's not going to
kill this is rarely hostage. Sothis is how this just tells you that
they're paying lip service about the hostages, but really they're just going in and
taking control of Gaza and really killingas many Palestinians indiscriminately as possible without fully
(55:53):
admitting there that they're committing war crimes. Can we think they are demand from
the Red Cross that it demand visitsto the osage, demand the unconditional release
of the osygen say that this isbarbarism, that is unaccepted, unacceptable.
I like to see the UN.I like to see the UN Secretary General
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basically lay the blame on Israel,lay the blame on these savage, to
demand that they obey internationalw because Israelis fighting. According to international law.
Israeli army is doing an exemplary jobtrying to minimize security civilian casualties and maximize
terrorist casualties. But we need theinternational community not to give succor support and
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moral support and legitimacy to sheer evilthat Hamas represents support Israel attack Commas printer
who The one of the questions rightnow is when it comes to hostages,
is whether there can be a negotiationthat work towards works towards a deal to
free large groups of hostages in exchangefor a sustained days long pause in fighting.
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Is that acceptable to you? Andif so, how long of a
pause would Israel be willing to allow. Are you having trouble paying for health
care grocries. I said that we'regoing to pursue the battle to destroy the
Hamas to its end. But Ialso said the cease fire that we would
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consider is one in which we haveour hostages released. And that remains true.
Doesn't mean that we can't give asanetarian pause for a few hours in
a place, a specific time place. We want to have a humanitarian corridor
and have the people leave safely.We've done that and the hundreds of thousands
have left the fighting. How longof a pause so far we've dealt with
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a few hours. If you're talkingabout a cease fire, well, I'm
not going to get into no,I'm not talking about it. Ceasefire,
just a longer pause days for example, that's not that's not a pause.
If you're talking about stopping the fighting, that's exactly what. So there's a
rumor and maybe when I do thethe longer, the longer video I mean
(58:13):
or podcast, I'll talk about it. There's a rumor that basically there was
a deal for a five day ceasefireto release hostages or whatever, and then
basically that in Yahoo and IDF rejectedit. An endless series of pauses that
(58:34):
basically dissipated the battle against them.It's like the Germans after Normandy. Okay,
let's have a far you guys,hold off, let us replenish our
supplies, let us get out ofour turn tunnel, let us bear ourselves
and so on. Obviously we're notgoing to do that. US in order
to have cease far of any uhceaspar in the entire area that will require
(58:59):
the release, US says that youneed an extended pause in order to get
the hostages out? Do you notbelieve that as well? A little riddle?
All right, so we even hearthe United States, based on their
intelligence, basically says you need anextended pause in order to get the hostages
(59:20):
out. And it seems like basedon the rumor that an extended pause has
already been rejected by that Yahoo andthe ID and these families, these Israeli
families are really not appreciating the factthat he's been on this war mission and
not really focusing on getting the hostagesout. He's just focusing on bombing away
(59:43):
because he feels like that the hostageswere taken as a part of Hama's strategy
of negotiation, et cetera. Andso he don't want to negotiate. He
just want to bomb away, right, And that's it is evident Bible,
how he's responding to these questions thatshe's asking. So I'll leave that there
(01:00:07):
for now. Let me see,I'll play the last part of the clip
and then we'll call it a show. You need to get the hostages up.
The US also says that any postwar plan for Gaza must includ Palestinian
led governance and Gaza unified with theWest Bank under the Palestinian authority. You
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appeared to reject that yesterday you saidIsrael will not accept the quote civilian authority
there that educates its children to hateIsrael. So I just want to be
clear. Are you saying that Israelwould not accept giving control of Gaza over
to the Palestinian authority after the war. The first thing we have to do
is destroy Commas, because otherwise they'lldo it again and again and again,
(01:00:51):
and they've said so, so we'lldestroy Homas. Second thing we have to
understand is that there has to bean overriding and reaching Israeli military one because
we've seen any place that we leave, we just you know, exit,
give it to some other force.Very soon terrorism resurgers. So we must
achieve nothing. The third thing wehave to understand is that a civilian authority
(01:01:13):
has to cooperate in two goals.One is to demilitarize Gaza. The second
is to deradicalize Gaza. And Ihave to say that the Palestinian authority has
unfortunately failed on both councils. Theydon't demilitarize the West Bank. To the
in Sabaria, we have to wehave to go in and fight the terrorists.
They don't deradicalize. They teach ourchildren the hatred of visual They do
(01:01:36):
pay for slave. They pay forterrorists, murderers and their family. The
more Jews they kill, the morethey pay. They refused to this day,
thirty six days after this savagery tocondemn. So there has to be
a reconstructed civilian authority. There hasto be something else, Otherwise we're just
(01:02:00):
falling into that same rabbit and we'regonna have the same result. Remember the
PA was already in Gaza and Israelleft, it had the over. Yeah,
and what happened in a very shorttime, Hamas kicked them out.
Yeah, Hamas ran them out.But who funded Hamas? Right, he's
saying that Hamas took over and kickedthem out. But where did they get
(01:02:22):
money from? They got Hamas gotis funding from Israel. And I believe,
if I'm not mistaken, even thatin Y'allhoo himself was behind the transfer
of billions of dollars to Hamas.So this is this is the game that
they play here. So, brothersand sisters, I thank you so much
(01:02:45):
for listening. I'm gonna go aheadand call it a show. Always feel
free to reach out to your brother. I appreciate the con words of support,
the emails, the direct messages,whatever. I really appreciate all of
your support. Until the next episodeof the Gospel of Manga X podcast Peace
(01:03:09):
and Love, we will hip hopbeat thirty years from now. I guess
(01:03:29):
I should keep studying my pears fornow? Should I make a dance and
snap thumbs? Fast, high hats, eight away back trumps? Are we
selling though souls for thirty three piecesto go? If it's lack of the
soul, how can it remain whole? We make music for a strip of
holes, but no music to think. That's the short term money that we're
put in the bank. But thedramas going backwards. I see devolution instead
(01:03:51):
of evolution. This is sole prostitution. The children are fumbling, even got
the elders and carriage and muffling.Watching them stumbling, then you have to
say it's so humbling. Meanwhile,our stock has been plummeted, and they're
telling me I need to sound likethese other niggas, grown ass men trying
to sound like the younger niggas.Used to have balance back in the days
(01:04:11):
we had talent, Trying to beoriginal was the challenge. Now all these
niggas sound the same, and allthe beats talent the same, the same,
Kay, the same trumps all thatshit sounded lange Johnny niggas trying to
sound like future and a love rockingfuture. But that's why it's a feature.
Think you niggas need a different producer. Hope the bullshit crash your computer.
Itin't not'll be cool about being theuser.