November 20, 2024 • 37 mins
Hugh Millen is back for his weekly chat to talk some Seahawks and even a little Russell Wilson, and much more. After our discussion w/ Hugh, the duo read some messages from listeners, Gregg makes a pick for Fact or Fiction, and we close w/ Ian Furness as he shares what's on his show for Wednesday.
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Speaker 2 (01:49):
As he does every week at this time at eleven
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Speaker 1 (01:55):
Hugh, How'd they do it? Good morning? How'd they do it?
How'd they beat the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Finally, well, I think that you know what they did
against McCaffrey. Uh, if you look at you know, his
four point two yards per attempt, but uh one of
those eleven yard games was at the end of the
second p Yeah. Yeah, they were in Hail Mary defense.
So if you take that play away, they were at
three point eight yards per attempt. And and so I
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just think, uh, and and going to the left side
where Trent Williams is their their Hall of Fame left
tackle three point three yards per attempt. So I just
think they did a great job of building the wall
that that Mike McDonald talks about a lot of times,
you see players they have what's called a gap and
a half where they they had their staying in let's
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say the B gap. You know, Leonard Williams might have
the B gap, but he's not going to penetrate into
the B gap. He's kind of going to be in
a position where he's going to deter the B gap,
but he can also throw the lineman and fall back
into the A gap, you know. And and so you
see evidence of that that that kind of the building
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of the wall. More physicality with with a new middle linebacker,
and so I just think you stop the run, get
them into predictable pass situations, and then and then prevent
the big plays.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Don't have the bus.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like in the UH in the first game against the
forty nine ers, Kittle gets loose on the on the
left sideline on a wheel route, and you know you
have your busy underneath coverage just to have a chance
with Julian Love to make a play, you take a
bad angle and then you give up a seventy six
yard or so some fundamental breakdowns in the running The
seventy six yard er UH in the running game in
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that first game, that was a that was a zone
stretch play by a third string halfback, and and they
just lock.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The forty nine ers just lined up.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
This is like first play, a mini camp formation, bounce formation,
a tight end on either side, a receiver on either side,
no movement, no eye candy, no fake fly sweep, nothing,
just running outside zone. And Seattle couldn't get in the gap.
And one of the guys who didn't get into his
gap was Dodson. In fact, the primary guy who didn't
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get into his gap was Dodson. That was the breakdown
at the at the at the at the front seven level,
and then you take a free safety takes a bad angle.
You know, you're never gonna say the front seven is
responsible for a seventy six yarder, but your couple not
being in the gap with Dodson and it wasn't Love.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Who was that? It was Jenkins?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, it was Jenkins was in the in the post
safety and he's got to you know, make that a
you know, a nine yard game, not a seventy six
yard game. And so they just had, you know, a
lot of breakdowns that they cleaned up, and very exciting
to see, very very buoyed by what I've seen in
the last couple of weeks that the RAM game and
the forty nine er game defense away.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And then real quickly, what did you think of Gino
Smith on the final drive? I know you've broken it
down for other shows, but in a synopsis form, what
did he do that was exemplary to go eighty yards
two minutes?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well, I think that they were relatively vanilla looks by
the forty nine ers. I think he took the completions
that were there and got the ball out of his
hand and then a couple of times where they were
playing zone, but a particular type of zone, in a
four deep zone where the three guys underneath, the two
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linebackers and the nickel, they play man concepts within. There's
five eligible receivers in every formation. That's what a defense sees.
No matter what formation, there's always five eligible guys unless
they want to cover up guys, but teams don't do that,
so the defense always identifies, well, tell me, tell me
who the three middle of the five are. And then
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you manned a man on those three. So it's a zone,
but there's man and man concepts within his zone, a
little bit of a hybrid defense. And so where there
was a crack, you know, particularly an empty both the
big runs that Gino had were in empty and by
being in an empty formation, that took Fred Warner, who
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had it not been empty, he'd have been sitting right
over the ball. But in those coverages though too high structures,
he has to he has to push to the uh
to the strong side, the three receiver side out of five,
and and and he got one run and then another
one was a three deep four underzone, and and he
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ran away from from Fred Warner. I don't think that
was a key part of it. He just saw how
the defense collapsed inside with a a relatively you went
four verticals with a switch, and then the widest receiver
Charbonnay close to the sideline, he's running the shallow.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You know, that's a that's a look that you don't
often see.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Uh and and and the forty nine ers had did
a board job of passing that off and created a lamee.
Gino saw it and scampered for a very very very fit,
pivotal touchdown, one of the most I've seen in several years.
That might have been a tens of million dollars scramble.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, that's what we talked about last week.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Right, Well, yeah, for Gino, if you go by the
theory that this is going to give him some confidence
and you know, get an extra win or two, whereas
had you lost and you lost six out of seven
and you're sitting in the basement. Now is their doubt
and grousing and you know, and all the things that
are attendant to a quarterback controversy, you know, the seattle
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in essence a in the offseason, Hey we got you
for one more year. We're not giving you an extension,
we need to see you for one more year and
who knows, but any end, I think we can agree.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It was a very pivotal drive. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
On that pivotal drive he also connected with Jackson Smith
and Jigbo quite a few times. And can you talk
about his ascension and his growth with the Seahawks and
in that offense and his relationship on the field of Gino,
it seems to be taking another level.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, he showed this at Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
He has a really uncanny knack or understanding, you know, man,
how to how to win in man, but against zone.
He is aware of who's inside, who's outside, who's over
the top. And he'll put moves on a on a
guy that I don't often see from any receiver to
let alone a young guy. He'll he'll put a move
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on a receipt on a on a defender, but and
and be aware that he left that defender. But he's
aware of where the next guy is. You know what
pace does he need to be? Does he need to
idle down? Does he needs to get friendly to the quarterback,
show his front numbers. There's just too many examples of
that to to even cite on on this segment, but uh,
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you know, I just I would I would just summarize it. Remember, now,
he's a he's a low cut guy. Generally, scouts like
to see high cut guys, long legged guys, short torso,
long legs, they tend to be the faster guys. Those
are the guys that tend to be out wide receivers
close to the sideline. The slot guys they could be
more low cut with the shorter legs, longer torso, and
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they they might lack the outright speed and Jackson Smith
and Jigbit does lack just elite speed. But you go
back to his combine numbers. I'm not gonna sign him,
but there was three different cone drills that at the
combine Jackson Smith and Jigba had the fastest time. So
the short legs, the balance, the center of gravity allows
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him to be quick. So there's there's just some genetic
aspects to to his frame that allow him to be
a quick dude in the slot. And then you pair that,
you know, this was the Texas player of the year
in high school at the highest level. You know this
is that's the mecha of high school football. If you're
as dominant he was a play State Player of the Year.
(09:47):
You're doing something and and so this was a guy
that you know, his sophomore year broke the Big Ten
record for yards and that was on a team that
had Gared Wilson and Chris Olave, two number one draft.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Picks, and and c J.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Stroud is on record as every saying the best route
route runner I've ever thrown to in my life is Jackson.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Smith and Jigba.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That includes the two first rounders I said, and and
plus Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Plus uh A, Mecca Buka.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I mean, that's in a set of five first rounders,
and he's describing Jackson Smith and Jigba as the best
route runner he's ever thrown to against c J. Stroud
making that comment from his Ohio State experience. So, you know,
you just kind of shine a bright light on Jackson
Smith and Jigba. And there's some aspects about his his
his instincts, about his again his uh, his athleticism in
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unique ways that that are really playing dividends and.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Showing out on the field.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I know you've done a deep dive on Russell Wilson's
four and oh start as the Steelers starter compared to
what he was in his heyday here.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
At the Super Bowls, back to back Super Bowls with
the Seahawks. What have you found?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well, I think it's interesting and you know, maybe maybe
Seahawk fans I'll like this. I'll try and tie it
into what it's relevant. But the rest of the country
he's talking about, Hey, can Russell Wilson duplicate what he
did in Seattle? Can he do that in Pittsburgh? I mean,
the Steelers are eight and two. If you watch that
game against the Ravens, I mean, they got something going on.
It was one thing to beat the Giants and the
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Jets in his first two starts Russell, but he took
on a white hot Commander team. You know, hit hit
the game winner in that and then now just beat
the Ravens. And so I'm presenting for the thirty third team,
and I'm just gonna do a synopsis. Russell Wilson was.
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These are the attributes of Russell Wilson. So in case
you have a buddy in a coma and missed the
Russell Wilson years or a review, here we go. Number One,
he was a winner Seattle six to fifty five win
percentage was second in the league for the ten years.
All of this is going to be over the ten
year period twenty twelve to twenty twenty one the rankings
so they were second only the Patriot to win percent.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
His success was front loaded.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
First five years, eight playoff wins, second five years, one
playoff win. Durable started one hundred and seventy one out
of one hundred and seventy four games, clutch thirty three
game winning drives third most during that period. Had a
dominant running game behind him beast mode Seattle defensive Seattle
rushing ranks second again for that decade in attempts, rushing
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yards first, yards per rush first. He had a dominant
defense the league in the boom for the ten year period.
Opponent points per game, the defense was second to the Patriots,
but in Russell's first five years the twenty twelfth twenty sixteen,
Seattle was number one fewest points allowed at sixteen point one.
The next closest was more than three points difference of
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the Patriots a nineteen point three close games. We remember
Russell playing in all these close games in the fourth
quarter fifty point zero one percent of all Seattle fourth
quarter plays in that decade, where plus or minus eight
point differential. To put that into context, the Patriots were
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forty three percent and change. He was efficient and productive
his passer rating, again, this is all over a decade
passer rating for now, This is among I should have
said this when I get into these individual stats. These
are all quarterbacks that have that had two thousand or
more pass attempts in the decade, of which there were thirty.
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So if you hear a rank, it's Russell Wilson's rank
among thirty. You know, you got Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,
Drew Brees, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But there's thirty guys that had.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Okay, so his passer rating, he was ranked fourth, touchdowns
per game, eighth, yards per temp.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Third, he threw a lot more than people.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Remember they think Marshawn Lynch and that all they did
was run, that he threw quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, we're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to that.
He was productive when he did throw yards per tamp
remember that number. Third in yards per seven point eight
yards per temp. Third and out of thirty for a decade,
interception rate sixth best, one point eight percent, sixth best. Okay,
here's another item, let Russ Cook design run percent that's
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a team stats forty four point six percent. For the decade,
Seattle was first with these run pass racial Seahawks ran
more on design runs than any team in the league
passing yards per game, Russell Wilson was They were twenty
fourth and pass attempts twenty ninth out of thirty. So
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all that Russ let Russ Cook deal it was legit
in terms of that would be a numbers based argument
for it. He's okay, excellent deep ball these the fallowing
three stats are going to be in all passes where
the ball goes thirty yards or more from the line
of scrimmage. What's called thirty plus are yards completions per game. First,
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passing yards per game, first completion percentage. Third, he was
a scrambler and a runner runner scrambles per game for
a decade. First scramble yards per game. First, designed QB
runs that's the red zone stuff. Second in run design
runs per game only to Cam Newton. Design QB run
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yards per game second to Cam Newton, and five point
two yards per designed run was also second. Next item
quote I'm frustrated with getting hit so much. End quote
Russell Wilson February eight, twenty twenty one, the offseason before
his last season.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
What stats support that?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Sacks per game first PFF pressure percentage thirty nine point
eight percent first.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Okay, that was his.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Answer, by the way, to me asking why he said
he was frustrated in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, that was his answer. Yes, yeah, yeah, I did
my research. You were you were at the center. That's
so good on you. But here's my next hide him.
Remember those numbers, sacks per game first, pressure percentage thirty
nine point eight percent first. But here's my next Roman
numeral holds the ball. Listen to these items. Average time
to throw on all passes two point eight four seconds first,
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meaning longest to throw the ball of all thirty quarterbacks,
holds the ball the most. And here's a This is
an NFL stat portal. I'm gonna quote it exactly as
it reads in the NFL stat portal. Quote percentage of
pass attempts with over three seconds to throw end quote
twenty nine point six percent first completions per game with
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five plus seconds to throw. These are all the scramble around,
you know, the the recess, you know, literally five seconds
to throw completion per game first, but also sacks per
game for first, So all those magical plays, yeah you
saw them, but they also you also saw a lot
of sacks in those situations. First again in both categories.
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And then here's here's the final point on from a
staffer perspective, pro football focused pressure percentage. When there's two
point five seconds or less to throw, why two point
five seconds. If you go that decade and you say
what is the average time to throw all quarterbacks all passes,
the answer is two point five seconds. So on times
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where there was less than two point five seconds, what
was Russell Wilson pressure that he was pressured at twenty
point two percent, which was eighteenth out of thirtieth.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
He was actually pressured less.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Than the median when he actually got rid of the
ball at that at that median juncture.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So I think there's a little bit of the answer I.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Think is is is there's two truths. Number one, Yes,
he was pressured a lot, undeniable. Number two, he also
held the ball a lot in I did a lot
of those pressures because you can have a quarterback just
so you know for those who don't, you could have
a quarterback pressure when a guy holds the ball for
eight seconds, as long as there's a defender coming at
him right at the moment he goes to throw. So
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so some of these pressure rates that I hear some
analyst site, it's like, without that context, oh he was pressured,
you know x percent of the time. Well, tell me,
are those pressured after two point one seconds? Are those
pressured after five point one seconds? So it's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Are you seeing in the Steelers version of Wilson anything
that resembles the Seahawks?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
One? Uh, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
And if you say, okay, well what you know because
I've looked at all the Steelers plays.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I looked at every play.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I have a ten video package that I'm going to
present that tries to tell the story. If I'm gonna
give you two stats, because I've probably blown all your
minds on stats, all right, let's now let's fast forward
to twenty twenty four. Everything I had been saying was
Russell Wilson's decade in Seattle. So now let me give
you two stats that really bear relevance. The difference between
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Russell Wilson Steelers and justin fields. All right, percent of
completions that are ten or more yards justin Fields thirty
seven point seven. That's thirty three out of thirty three
out of thirty nine qualifying quarterbacks. Got me remember that number.
He's thirty third. Yep, Russell Wilson fifty two point one percent,
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he's fourth. So Mike Tomlin goes from thirty third to
fourth with the quarterback switch and uh, and then I'll
give you one other one percentage of of the completions
that go for a first down or touchdown. Okay, yeah,
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justin Fields forty two point five percent. That's thirty seventh
out of thirty nine quarterbacks. Russell Wilson, he goes, he
takes it from forty two and a half to fifty
seven and a half percent, and the ranking goes from
thirty seventh to seventh. All right, So now I got
a lot of other stats in front of me that
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that would also tell a story. But but I would
start right there if you said, okay, what's give me
a stats based argument as to why Tomlin uh feels
good about this this uh, this switch? That would be
one of them.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And it looks like the Staelers will re up him,
or at least try to, although his agent may now
say yeah, let's just keep playing this out and see
who else could drive up the price.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And then I've got the uh I got a summer
I haven't summarized. I'm looking at a spreadsheet. George Pickens, he's.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Got George Pickens has become George Pickens with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yes, I mean he's he is. Let me see if
I can do this on the fly. He is averaging
ninety one point three yards poor per uh per game
receiving with Russell Wilson, where he had been at sixty
point five. So he goes fifty percent more. He's got
two touchdowns with Russell Wilson he had none with fields.
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You know, it's it's uh uh yeah. There's some other
things about being targeted down the field.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, So George Pickens has come alive yep, with Russell Wilson,
and and you know, look my experience, it just creates harmony.
There's just a certain energy you want when your best
receiver is getting the ball. I just I could cite many,
many examples, and it's one of the reasons that you know,
for for DK, if you want to talk about real ball,
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you know, the energy just is better in the huddle.
It's better on the sideline, and George Pickens is making
plays and Russell Wilson's giving him opportunity a lot of
a lot of deep balls down. Now I'm gonna I'm
gonna obviously I'm not gonna describe in detail, but the
but the the eight Steeler plays. I have two Seattle plays,
but I have eight Steeler plays. What's the theme that
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I'm trying to show on the videos? Uh, the first
two are throwing over the middle, because that's that's a
big factor. And this in the stats, if you go
outside the numbers, Russell Wilson in that deck in that decade,
he had the ninth most attempts in seventh most yards,
but inside the numbers thirty first most attempts twenty seventh
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most yards. So all that talk about, Hey, Russell Wilson
doesn't throw over the middle, It's true. He's he's an
outside the numbers guys, and it almost assuredly has something
to do with his hype five ten and five eighths.
But but in any event, Yeah, the themes I'm gonna
hit is he's he's getting not a lot, but getting
some completions over the middle. Still scrambling making plays off
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script and then and then deep balls on a corner
route and deep balls on go on go routes. Those
those those long passes down the field that we cited.
The statistics well will show some of those.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So any man, you sir, are ready for Bill Polly
in the thirty third team crew, you are well prepared.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Thank you for sharing that well.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I hope it seemed relevant for Seayawk fans if nothing else,
to just look back in time as to what he
was and what he represented.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Thank you. I'm going to get you on the round.
To you tomorrow. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Good luck Today Hugh millon to brief the thirty third team,
Bill Pully, and some others former general managers and coaches
about Russell Wilson. You heard it here like no one else.
He breaks it down. If you miss that where you've
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Oh that great defense gave up fourteen to fourth quarter
points and blew a ten point fourth quarter lead. They
are all as much to blame as the offense. That's
true for four to fourteen with eight minutes left from
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the four towo five. Earl Thomas is not a first
ballot Hall of Famer. He was one of a kind player,
but first ballot guys are on another level above that.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Truly generational talent. I'd agree with that. Yeah, I would
think is Earl Thomas. I think once in a lifetime generational.
Have you seen it since.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
He been It's only been five years and his prime
though we're talking twenty thirteen to fourteen. Yeah, but I
mean that's yeah, No, but I'm talking in the history
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Yeah, that's who I think. Look that first comes to me,
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Maybe he was in fact, but when that comes to mind,
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I think you could. That's tough.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I don't know, but okay, I'm not saying he's not
Hall of Famer. But there is a discussion. Yeah, there
it is. And I appreciate all the comments. Hugh Millan
used some of those times because he went to a
very very good discussion on Russell Wilson as a Steeler
compared to Russell Wilson as a Seahawk. And it's an
interesting discussion it is, and if you missed it, it's
a good memory of what Russell Wilson was to this team.
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In his prime.
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point or half a point. Unbeaten eighteenth ranked Army, the
pride dream of every heart and Gray versus six drank
Notre Dame inside Yankee Stadium in the Bronx. This is
Army's West Point's biggest non Service Academy, non Army Navy game,
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probably since Pete Dawkins won the Heisman Trophy in nineteen
fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Army beat Notre Dame fourteen to two that year.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
In nineteen fifty eight, that's the last undefeated season Army
has completed.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Army is nine to zero.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
These teams played every year in Yankee Stateium determined national
championship back in the nineteen forties. Nineteen forty four Army
fifty nine Notre Dame nothing, worst loss in Fighting Irish history.
The last time Army in Notre Dame played in the
original Yankee Stadium was nineteen sixty nine. This meeting is
the one hundredth anniversary of Notre Dame's famed four horsemen
backfield that led the Fighting Irish to an upset win
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over the Black Knights Army in nineteen twenty four in
the Polo Grounds in New York. Army is getting fourteen
and a half points to the Fighting Irish and Notre Dame,
partly because Notre Dame absolutely destroyed Navy fifty two to
fourteen when Navy was undefeated. Across the river in matt
Life Stadium last month, Army eight Navy West point Graduate
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can tell you that Army sure as hell ain't the squids.
They ain't getting be fifty two to fourteen. Give me
all those points and more Army plus fourteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
They mightn't even need them all. Matter of fact, I'm
gonna watch Army.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Upset Notre Dame Saturday night at Yankee Stadium to set
up an absolutely epic Army Navy game that Jessman MacIntyre
and I will be broadcasting live from on December thirteenth
here on ninety three point three KJERFM. Army plus fourteen
and a half versus Notre Dame. I don't think Notre
Dame is gonna beat him by fifteen or more. If
you agree with me, text factor four nine four or
(28:29):
five one. If you disagree, text fiction and never speak
to me again. Ever, don't text, don't anything. I don't
want you. Army plus fourteen and a half versus Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, you're done. You're done with me.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
If you text fiction here fact four nine four or
five one fiction, you can do it anonymously somehow.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You do it honestly and still get entered in the contest.
Text fiction to four nine four or five one. You
have twelve minutes, after which time if you picked fiction,
you might as just go crawl in a hole because
you will have lost. If you like chance of free money,
text fact four nine four or five one. Army plus
fourteen and a half versus Notre Dame. He knew where
I was going with that. But that's the beauty of it, Greg,
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They are doing really well.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's not as nine to no, man, it's not as
if they're one and nine. I'm not picking a dog
for you. Yeah, like I hate picks. Don't picking the jags.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, you know that's like, oh, Chris, I'd be cute
and get it right wrong. Greg's going with his squad
that's been dominating all year. Greg, what's the pick? One
more time man, Army plus fourteen and a half versus
Notre Dame at Yankee Stadium, four o'clock start on Channel five.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
King five, NBC National Television.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
We want to check it out, Like, I will be
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If you agree, text factor four nine, four to five one.
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Here in ninety three point three.
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Am text back to four nine four to five one
or fixing the four nine four y five one Up
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Speaker 1 (30:29):
Welcome back to.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
The Greg Bellt Show with Christopher Kind on ninety three
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annual day. If you missed talk about that all morning, well,
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Speaker 5 (30:56):
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Cool. Yeah.
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I think you're that close. I think so for you,
what was your Hall of Fame conversation?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
We made the.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Point that if you're Earl Thomas, if you missed the
news this morning has reached the semi final stage among
twenty five semi finalists out of an original cast of
one hundred and sixty seven nominees. Earl Thomas is now
a semifinalist among twenty five for the class of twenty
twenty five Pro Football Hall of Fame. The finalists will
be determined fifteen finalists next month. And we made the
(31:51):
point that both Chris and I agree that if you
say you're a first ballot Hall of Famer, you are
a generational, once in a lifetime player Tom Joe Montanna.
When you think of history of the NFL, Walter Payton,
Jim Brown, that's who I consider first ballot half and now,
of course there's been more than that have been first
ballot Hall of Famers, but that's the level that I
think that rises to, and I don't think Earl Thomas
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rises to that level, although he is to me.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
A Hall of Famer, not a first ballot one.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Marshawn did not get there right, No.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He didn't reach the semifinal round. He was the original
one among them one hundred and sixty seven. How it
works is you have to be five years removed, full
five before you be eligible for consideration. In the modern era,
this was the first year of eligibility for both Marshawn
Lynch and Earl Thomas. Thomas made the semifinal cut to
twenty five. Yes, it's an interesting discussion. Is he a
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transit I don't. I think Troy Paulo Malo is a
transitional player at that position more than Earl Thomas is,
although not by much.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
I'm just Chris brought up ed Reed. I'm just I'm
googling something stand.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
By here, enjoying the fact he can actually use a
computer on I didn't.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I didn't even check emails. I couldn't get you to
work or anything.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Something of a rant off air before we started about his.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I've just had a bad We've had a really nobody
cares what. We've had a really bad month. There's a
lot of first ballot Hall of Famers. The last one
was Julius Peppers.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
See, I wouldn't consider him one either.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Joe Thomas, Yes, I agree, Joe Thomas was.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, he's best left tackling the era, my goodness.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Drell Reeves, Yes.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
He was silent.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Charles Woods and Peyton.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Charles absolutely, Peyton Manning absolutely, Calvin Johnson absolutely.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
I don't know about that really.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I think so yards in a game and before it.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
But but but just i mean, for for the first
ballots out high of a bar. I'm just saying, like
his longevity.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
What's there which you could argue the same of Earl.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Thomas, Paulamalu, Ed Reed, Tony Gonzalez, Champ Bailey, Ran Lewis,
Brian Locker, all these.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Guys and all those I would never raise. Taylor is
a question mark for I don't know about too much.
I don't know he was really good.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
What is the Legend score? Legends score of fifty five,
so there's a there's a ballot here. He had a
low one. La Davian Thomas had a low one. Who
Dan Thomas mean is not?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:17):
No, who'd you say? Who is ed Reid Edward? Fifty eight?
That's high? That's good. Oh, Jason Taylor, right, thirty three,
that's easily the lowest ever. That's a guy that's was
pretty on TV and he was a very clib and yeah,
well it's the same stupid moronic thing with what's gone
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on with the coaches, like if we're being honest, the
Bill Cowherd thing over Mike Homran, Dick Vermeial. But Coward
and Jimmy Johnson were made for TV events. I went
through the whole numbers with Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cower.
Compared to Holme Grind, they don't stack up to him.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Let's hope Mike Coman gets in on the Senior Committee vote.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
This year needs to happen. Noth of this nonsense. Uh god,
it's a great question. She's coming out of heels of
the baseball one yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yes, in the text line, in this market, of all markets,
you think it would be flooded with Of course, he's
the first about however, and a lot of people on
the text line are split on this.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Make the case for both those guys. Because you brought
up a great point, I'm going to take this and
run with it. What'd you say, history of the NFL?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Can you write the book of the history of the
NFL with his picture on it or off it?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
He wouldn't need to be on it. No, But now
I bring up could you write the history of the
Seahawks great defense which was the best of that discussion?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Right? Not history of the NFL? Right, but.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
That type of defense without Earle on it?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Probably not, But to me, that's a different discussion. Every
team has a history of its greatest defense.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Or can you write the book with Marshawn on it?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Now, that's that's the question you brought up that I went.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
There's an eye test with Marshawn But that's might go
what Chris said with Jason Taylor, right, or some of
those guys like we feel different about him maybe than
others would.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
There are some.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
People that are on the Hall of Fame voting committee
that don't like Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yeah you think that matters because they because they are
guys that work in your world a professional football writers.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So that's right.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Absolutely, there were national people that were ticked off and
would cry to the league about how Marshawn Lynch was
not available.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
To get over yourselves.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
There were some in this market that did that. I
know there were, And I said, what are we doing?
First of all, I got fifty two other players to
talk to? And secondly I had a great relationship with
I thought I did.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Anyway, from my perspective, with Marshawn Lynch, I just didn't
need to quote him.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
No, he was fine. Just you knew how to handle him.
Just walk away, all right. So yeah, we'll have to
touch in on that a little bit. Well, we've got
our buddy Brandon Sprague from the Fans going to join
us in Portland at twelve twenty. I'm going to kind
of go back into the you know the Jake Dicker,
they're not our buddies. Conversation a little bit and also
talk some NBA with her up some beef.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, you know, what the hell.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
And then we got our patient from Virginia, Mason Franciscan
health cracking hockey fights cancer at twelve forty five see
pelos old at one. McDonald's speaking in the one o'clock hour.
Will play that coming up to two because Mike's not
feeling well, so he's off today, so I'll be sure
to ask questions.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Please just funnel me and I can go straight onto
your air.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I will do that. Thank you, you're welcome. That's Ian Furness,
Anderson Hurst, Jessamin McIntyre. There'll be on from twelve to three.
Greg Bell, the news tributning Christopher Kids. Thank you for listening.
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Speaker 2 (01:49):
As he does every week at this time at eleven
o'clock thanks to the Beacon Plumbing hotline.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Hugh, How'd they do it? Good morning? How'd they do it?
How'd they beat the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Finally, well, I think that you know what they did
against McCaffrey. Uh, if you look at you know, his
four point two yards per attempt, but uh one of
those eleven yard games was at the end of the
second p Yeah. Yeah, they were in Hail Mary defense.
So if you take that play away, they were at
three point eight yards per attempt. And and so I
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just think, uh, and and going to the left side
where Trent Williams is their their Hall of Fame left
tackle three point three yards per attempt. So I just
think they did a great job of building the wall
that that Mike McDonald talks about a lot of times,
you see players they have what's called a gap and
a half where they they had their staying in let's
(02:41):
say the B gap. You know, Leonard Williams might have
the B gap, but he's not going to penetrate into
the B gap. He's kind of going to be in
a position where he's going to deter the B gap,
but he can also throw the lineman and fall back
into the A gap, you know. And and so you
see evidence of that that that kind of the building
(03:01):
of the wall. More physicality with with a new middle linebacker,
and so I just think you stop the run, get
them into predictable pass situations, and then and then prevent
the big plays.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Don't have the bus.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like in the UH in the first game against the
forty nine ers, Kittle gets loose on the on the
left sideline on a wheel route, and you know you
have your busy underneath coverage just to have a chance
with Julian Love to make a play, you take a
bad angle and then you give up a seventy six
yard or so some fundamental breakdowns in the running The
seventy six yard er UH in the running game in
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that first game, that was a that was a zone
stretch play by a third string halfback, and and they
just lock.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The forty nine ers just lined up.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
This is like first play, a mini camp formation, bounce formation,
a tight end on either side, a receiver on either side,
no movement, no eye candy, no fake fly sweep, nothing,
just running outside zone. And Seattle couldn't get in the gap.
And one of the guys who didn't get into his
gap was Dodson. In fact, the primary guy who didn't
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get into his gap was Dodson. That was the breakdown
at the at the at the at the front seven level,
and then you take a free safety takes a bad angle.
You know, you're never gonna say the front seven is
responsible for a seventy six yarder, but your couple not
being in the gap with Dodson and it wasn't Love.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Who was that? It was Jenkins?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, it was Jenkins was in the in the post
safety and he's got to you know, make that a
you know, a nine yard game, not a seventy six
yard game. And so they just had, you know, a
lot of breakdowns that they cleaned up, and very exciting
to see, very very buoyed by what I've seen in
the last couple of weeks that the RAM game and
the forty nine er game defense away.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And then real quickly, what did you think of Gino
Smith on the final drive? I know you've broken it
down for other shows, but in a synopsis form, what
did he do that was exemplary to go eighty yards
two minutes?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well, I think that they were relatively vanilla looks by
the forty nine ers. I think he took the completions
that were there and got the ball out of his
hand and then a couple of times where they were
playing zone, but a particular type of zone, in a
four deep zone where the three guys underneath, the two
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linebackers and the nickel, they play man concepts within. There's
five eligible receivers in every formation. That's what a defense sees.
No matter what formation, there's always five eligible guys unless
they want to cover up guys, but teams don't do that,
so the defense always identifies, well, tell me, tell me
who the three middle of the five are. And then
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you manned a man on those three. So it's a zone,
but there's man and man concepts within his zone, a
little bit of a hybrid defense. And so where there
was a crack, you know, particularly an empty both the
big runs that Gino had were in empty and by
being in an empty formation, that took Fred Warner, who
(06:06):
had it not been empty, he'd have been sitting right
over the ball. But in those coverages though too high structures,
he has to he has to push to the uh
to the strong side, the three receiver side out of five,
and and and he got one run and then another
one was a three deep four underzone, and and he
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ran away from from Fred Warner. I don't think that
was a key part of it. He just saw how
the defense collapsed inside with a a relatively you went
four verticals with a switch, and then the widest receiver
Charbonnay close to the sideline, he's running the shallow.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You know, that's a that's a look that you don't
often see.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Uh and and and the forty nine ers had did
a board job of passing that off and created a lamee.
Gino saw it and scampered for a very very very fit,
pivotal touchdown, one of the most I've seen in several years.
That might have been a tens of million dollars scramble.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, that's what we talked about last week.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Right, Well, yeah, for Gino, if you go by the
theory that this is going to give him some confidence
and you know, get an extra win or two, whereas
had you lost and you lost six out of seven
and you're sitting in the basement. Now is their doubt
and grousing and you know, and all the things that
are attendant to a quarterback controversy, you know, the seattle
(07:31):
in essence a in the offseason, Hey we got you
for one more year. We're not giving you an extension,
we need to see you for one more year and
who knows, but any end, I think we can agree.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It was a very pivotal drive. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
On that pivotal drive he also connected with Jackson Smith
and Jigbo quite a few times. And can you talk
about his ascension and his growth with the Seahawks and
in that offense and his relationship on the field of Gino,
it seems to be taking another level.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, he showed this at Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
He has a really uncanny knack or understanding, you know, man,
how to how to win in man, but against zone.
He is aware of who's inside, who's outside, who's over
the top. And he'll put moves on a on a
guy that I don't often see from any receiver to
let alone a young guy. He'll he'll put a move
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on a receipt on a on a defender, but and
and be aware that he left that defender. But he's
aware of where the next guy is. You know what
pace does he need to be? Does he need to
idle down? Does he needs to get friendly to the quarterback,
show his front numbers. There's just too many examples of
that to to even cite on on this segment, but uh,
(08:39):
you know, I just I would I would just summarize it. Remember, now,
he's a he's a low cut guy. Generally, scouts like
to see high cut guys, long legged guys, short torso,
long legs, they tend to be the faster guys. Those
are the guys that tend to be out wide receivers
close to the sideline. The slot guys they could be
more low cut with the shorter legs, longer torso, and
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they they might lack the outright speed and Jackson Smith
and Jigbit does lack just elite speed. But you go
back to his combine numbers. I'm not gonna sign him,
but there was three different cone drills that at the
combine Jackson Smith and Jigba had the fastest time. So
the short legs, the balance, the center of gravity allows
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him to be quick. So there's there's just some genetic
aspects to to his frame that allow him to be
a quick dude in the slot. And then you pair that,
you know, this was the Texas player of the year
in high school at the highest level. You know this
is that's the mecha of high school football. If you're
as dominant he was a play State Player of the Year.
(09:47):
You're doing something and and so this was a guy
that you know, his sophomore year broke the Big Ten
record for yards and that was on a team that
had Gared Wilson and Chris Olave, two number one draft.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Picks, and and c J.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Stroud is on record as every saying the best route
route runner I've ever thrown to in my life is Jackson.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Smith and Jigba.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That includes the two first rounders I said, and and
plus Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Plus uh A, Mecca Buka.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I mean, that's in a set of five first rounders,
and he's describing Jackson Smith and Jigba as the best
route runner he's ever thrown to against c J. Stroud
making that comment from his Ohio State experience. So, you know,
you just kind of shine a bright light on Jackson
Smith and Jigba. And there's some aspects about his his
his instincts, about his again his uh, his athleticism in
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unique ways that that are really playing dividends and.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Showing out on the field.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I know you've done a deep dive on Russell Wilson's
four and oh start as the Steelers starter compared to
what he was in his heyday here.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
At the Super Bowls, back to back Super Bowls with
the Seahawks. What have you found?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well, I think it's interesting and you know, maybe maybe
Seahawk fans I'll like this. I'll try and tie it
into what it's relevant. But the rest of the country
he's talking about, Hey, can Russell Wilson duplicate what he
did in Seattle? Can he do that in Pittsburgh? I mean,
the Steelers are eight and two. If you watch that
game against the Ravens, I mean, they got something going on.
It was one thing to beat the Giants and the
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Jets in his first two starts Russell, but he took
on a white hot Commander team. You know, hit hit
the game winner in that and then now just beat
the Ravens. And so I'm presenting for the thirty third team,
and I'm just gonna do a synopsis. Russell Wilson was.
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These are the attributes of Russell Wilson. So in case
you have a buddy in a coma and missed the
Russell Wilson years or a review, here we go. Number One,
he was a winner Seattle six to fifty five win
percentage was second in the league for the ten years.
All of this is going to be over the ten
year period twenty twelve to twenty twenty one the rankings
so they were second only the Patriot to win percent.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
His success was front loaded.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
First five years, eight playoff wins, second five years, one
playoff win. Durable started one hundred and seventy one out
of one hundred and seventy four games, clutch thirty three
game winning drives third most during that period. Had a
dominant running game behind him beast mode Seattle defensive Seattle
rushing ranks second again for that decade in attempts, rushing
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yards first, yards per rush first. He had a dominant
defense the league in the boom for the ten year period.
Opponent points per game, the defense was second to the Patriots,
but in Russell's first five years the twenty twelfth twenty sixteen,
Seattle was number one fewest points allowed at sixteen point one.
The next closest was more than three points difference of
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the Patriots a nineteen point three close games. We remember
Russell playing in all these close games in the fourth
quarter fifty point zero one percent of all Seattle fourth
quarter plays in that decade, where plus or minus eight
point differential. To put that into context, the Patriots were
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forty three percent and change. He was efficient and productive
his passer rating, again, this is all over a decade
passer rating for now, This is among I should have
said this when I get into these individual stats. These
are all quarterbacks that have that had two thousand or
more pass attempts in the decade, of which there were thirty.
(13:32):
So if you hear a rank, it's Russell Wilson's rank
among thirty. You know, you got Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,
Drew Brees, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But there's thirty guys that had.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Okay, so his passer rating, he was ranked fourth, touchdowns
per game, eighth, yards per temp.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Third, he threw a lot more than people.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Remember they think Marshawn Lynch and that all they did
was run, that he threw quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, we're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to that.
He was productive when he did throw yards per tamp
remember that number. Third in yards per seven point eight
yards per temp. Third and out of thirty for a decade,
interception rate sixth best, one point eight percent, sixth best. Okay,
here's another item, let Russ Cook design run percent that's
(14:18):
a team stats forty four point six percent. For the decade,
Seattle was first with these run pass racial Seahawks ran
more on design runs than any team in the league
passing yards per game, Russell Wilson was They were twenty
fourth and pass attempts twenty ninth out of thirty. So
(14:40):
all that Russ let Russ Cook deal it was legit
in terms of that would be a numbers based argument
for it. He's okay, excellent deep ball these the fallowing
three stats are going to be in all passes where
the ball goes thirty yards or more from the line
of scrimmage. What's called thirty plus are yards completions per game. First,
(15:02):
passing yards per game, first completion percentage. Third, he was
a scrambler and a runner runner scrambles per game for
a decade. First scramble yards per game. First, designed QB
runs that's the red zone stuff. Second in run design
runs per game only to Cam Newton. Design QB run
(15:27):
yards per game second to Cam Newton, and five point
two yards per designed run was also second. Next item
quote I'm frustrated with getting hit so much. End quote
Russell Wilson February eight, twenty twenty one, the offseason before
his last season.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
What stats support that?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Sacks per game first PFF pressure percentage thirty nine point
eight percent first.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Okay, that was his.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Answer, by the way, to me asking why he said
he was frustrated in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, that was his answer. Yes, yeah, yeah, I did
my research. You were you were at the center. That's
so good on you. But here's my next hide him.
Remember those numbers, sacks per game first, pressure percentage thirty
nine point eight percent first. But here's my next Roman
numeral holds the ball. Listen to these items. Average time
to throw on all passes two point eight four seconds first,
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meaning longest to throw the ball of all thirty quarterbacks,
holds the ball the most. And here's a This is
an NFL stat portal. I'm gonna quote it exactly as
it reads in the NFL stat portal. Quote percentage of
pass attempts with over three seconds to throw end quote
twenty nine point six percent first completions per game with
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five plus seconds to throw. These are all the scramble around,
you know, the the recess, you know, literally five seconds
to throw completion per game first, but also sacks per
game for first, So all those magical plays, yeah you
saw them, but they also you also saw a lot
of sacks in those situations. First again in both categories.
(17:10):
And then here's here's the final point on from a
staffer perspective, pro football focused pressure percentage. When there's two
point five seconds or less to throw, why two point
five seconds. If you go that decade and you say
what is the average time to throw all quarterbacks all passes,
the answer is two point five seconds. So on times
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where there was less than two point five seconds, what
was Russell Wilson pressure that he was pressured at twenty
point two percent, which was eighteenth out of thirtieth.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
He was actually pressured less.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Than the median when he actually got rid of the
ball at that at that median juncture.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So I think there's a little bit of the answer I.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Think is is is there's two truths. Number one, Yes,
he was pressured a lot, undeniable. Number two, he also
held the ball a lot in I did a lot
of those pressures because you can have a quarterback just
so you know for those who don't, you could have
a quarterback pressure when a guy holds the ball for
eight seconds, as long as there's a defender coming at
him right at the moment he goes to throw. So
(18:14):
so some of these pressure rates that I hear some
analyst site, it's like, without that context, oh he was pressured,
you know x percent of the time. Well, tell me,
are those pressured after two point one seconds? Are those
pressured after five point one seconds? So it's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Are you seeing in the Steelers version of Wilson anything
that resembles the Seahawks?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
One? Uh, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
And if you say, okay, well what you know because
I've looked at all the Steelers plays.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I looked at every play.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I have a ten video package that I'm going to
present that tries to tell the story. If I'm gonna
give you two stats, because I've probably blown all your
minds on stats, all right, let's now let's fast forward
to twenty twenty four. Everything I had been saying was
Russell Wilson's decade in Seattle. So now let me give
you two stats that really bear relevance. The difference between
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Russell Wilson Steelers and justin fields. All right, percent of
completions that are ten or more yards justin Fields thirty
seven point seven. That's thirty three out of thirty three
out of thirty nine qualifying quarterbacks. Got me remember that number.
He's thirty third. Yep, Russell Wilson fifty two point one percent,
(19:28):
he's fourth. So Mike Tomlin goes from thirty third to
fourth with the quarterback switch and uh, and then I'll
give you one other one percentage of of the completions
that go for a first down or touchdown. Okay, yeah,
(19:51):
justin Fields forty two point five percent. That's thirty seventh
out of thirty nine quarterbacks. Russell Wilson, he goes, he
takes it from forty two and a half to fifty
seven and a half percent, and the ranking goes from
thirty seventh to seventh. All right, So now I got
a lot of other stats in front of me that
(20:12):
that would also tell a story. But but I would
start right there if you said, okay, what's give me
a stats based argument as to why Tomlin uh feels
good about this this uh, this switch? That would be
one of them.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And it looks like the Staelers will re up him,
or at least try to, although his agent may now
say yeah, let's just keep playing this out and see
who else could drive up the price.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And then I've got the uh I got a summer
I haven't summarized. I'm looking at a spreadsheet. George Pickens, he's.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Got George Pickens has become George Pickens with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yes, I mean he's he is. Let me see if
I can do this on the fly. He is averaging
ninety one point three yards poor per uh per game
receiving with Russell Wilson, where he had been at sixty
point five. So he goes fifty percent more. He's got
two touchdowns with Russell Wilson he had none with fields.
(21:10):
You know, it's it's uh uh yeah. There's some other
things about being targeted down the field.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, So George Pickens has come alive yep, with Russell Wilson,
and and you know, look my experience, it just creates harmony.
There's just a certain energy you want when your best
receiver is getting the ball. I just I could cite many,
many examples, and it's one of the reasons that you know,
for for DK, if you want to talk about real ball,
(21:37):
you know, the energy just is better in the huddle.
It's better on the sideline, and George Pickens is making
plays and Russell Wilson's giving him opportunity a lot of
a lot of deep balls down. Now I'm gonna I'm
gonna obviously I'm not gonna describe in detail, but the
but the the eight Steeler plays. I have two Seattle plays,
but I have eight Steeler plays. What's the theme that
(21:59):
I'm trying to show on the videos? Uh, the first
two are throwing over the middle, because that's that's a
big factor. And this in the stats, if you go
outside the numbers, Russell Wilson in that deck in that decade,
he had the ninth most attempts in seventh most yards,
but inside the numbers thirty first most attempts twenty seventh
(22:22):
most yards. So all that talk about, Hey, Russell Wilson
doesn't throw over the middle, It's true. He's he's an
outside the numbers guys, and it almost assuredly has something
to do with his hype five ten and five eighths.
But but in any event, Yeah, the themes I'm gonna
hit is he's he's getting not a lot, but getting
some completions over the middle. Still scrambling making plays off
(22:44):
script and then and then deep balls on a corner
route and deep balls on go on go routes. Those
those those long passes down the field that we cited.
The statistics well will show some of those.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So any man, you sir, are ready for Bill Polly
in the thirty third team crew, you are well prepared.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Thank you for sharing that well.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I hope it seemed relevant for Seayawk fans if nothing else,
to just look back in time as to what he
was and what he represented.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Thank you. I'm going to get you on the round.
To you tomorrow. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Good luck Today Hugh millon to brief the thirty third team,
Bill Pully, and some others former general managers and coaches
about Russell Wilson. You heard it here like no one else.
He breaks it down. If you miss that where you've
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Oh that great defense gave up fourteen to fourth quarter
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the four towo five. Earl Thomas is not a first
ballot Hall of Famer. He was one of a kind player,
but first ballot guys are on another level above that.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Truly generational talent. I'd agree with that. Yeah, I would
think is Earl Thomas. I think once in a lifetime generational.
Have you seen it since.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
He been It's only been five years and his prime
though we're talking twenty thirteen to fourteen. Yeah, but I
mean that's yeah, No, but I'm talking in the history
of the game. First bout hall of famers. When you
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guys that are in the Mount Rushmore of football.
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Maybe he was in fact, but when that comes to mind,
first bout hall of famers. I think the guys that
you would put on the cover of history of the
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there where Earl Thomas. Could you write the history of
the NFL without Darl Thomas?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I think you could. That's tough.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I don't know, but okay, I'm not saying he's not
Hall of Famer. But there is a discussion. Yeah, there
it is. And I appreciate all the comments. Hugh Millan
used some of those times because he went to a
very very good discussion on Russell Wilson as a Steeler
compared to Russell Wilson as a Seahawk. And it's an
interesting discussion it is, and if you missed it, it's
a good memory of what Russell Wilson was to this team.
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I think you're that close. I think so for you,
what was your Hall of Fame conversation?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
We made the.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Point that if you're Earl Thomas, if you missed the
news this morning has reached the semi final stage among
twenty five semi finalists out of an original cast of
one hundred and sixty seven nominees. Earl Thomas is now
a semifinalist among twenty five for the class of twenty
twenty five Pro Football Hall of Fame. The finalists will
be determined fifteen finalists next month. And we made the
(31:51):
point that both Chris and I agree that if you
say you're a first ballot Hall of Famer, you are
a generational, once in a lifetime player Tom Joe Montanna.
When you think of history of the NFL, Walter Payton,
Jim Brown, that's who I consider first ballot half and now,
of course there's been more than that have been first
ballot Hall of Famers, but that's the level that I
think that rises to, and I don't think Earl Thomas
(32:13):
rises to that level, although he is to me.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
A Hall of Famer, not a first ballot one.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Marshawn did not get there right, No.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He didn't reach the semifinal round. He was the original
one among them one hundred and sixty seven. How it
works is you have to be five years removed, full
five before you be eligible for consideration. In the modern era,
this was the first year of eligibility for both Marshawn
Lynch and Earl Thomas. Thomas made the semifinal cut to
twenty five. Yes, it's an interesting discussion. Is he a
(32:42):
transit I don't. I think Troy Paulo Malo is a
transitional player at that position more than Earl Thomas is,
although not by much.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
I'm just Chris brought up ed Reed. I'm just I'm
googling something stand.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
By here, enjoying the fact he can actually use a
computer on I didn't.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I didn't even check emails. I couldn't get you to
work or anything.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Something of a rant off air before we started about his.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I've just had a bad We've had a really nobody
cares what. We've had a really bad month. There's a
lot of first ballot Hall of Famers. The last one
was Julius Peppers.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
See, I wouldn't consider him one either.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Joe Thomas, Yes, I agree, Joe Thomas was.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, he's best left tackling the era, my goodness.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Drell Reeves, Yes.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
He was silent.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Charles Woods and Peyton.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Charles absolutely, Peyton Manning absolutely, Calvin Johnson absolutely.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
I don't know about that really.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I think so yards in a game and before it.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
But but but just i mean, for for the first
ballots out high of a bar. I'm just saying, like
his longevity.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
What's there which you could argue the same of Earl.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Thomas, Paulamalu, Ed Reed, Tony Gonzalez, Champ Bailey, Ran Lewis,
Brian Locker, all these.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Guys and all those I would never raise. Taylor is
a question mark for I don't know about too much.
I don't know he was really good.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
What is the Legend score? Legends score of fifty five,
so there's a there's a ballot here. He had a
low one. La Davian Thomas had a low one. Who
Dan Thomas mean is not?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:17):
No, who'd you say? Who is ed Reid Edward? Fifty eight?
That's high? That's good. Oh, Jason Taylor, right, thirty three,
that's easily the lowest ever. That's a guy that's was
pretty on TV and he was a very clib and yeah,
well it's the same stupid moronic thing with what's gone
(34:37):
on with the coaches, like if we're being honest, the
Bill Cowherd thing over Mike Homran, Dick Vermeial. But Coward
and Jimmy Johnson were made for TV events. I went
through the whole numbers with Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cower.
Compared to Holme Grind, they don't stack up to him.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Let's hope Mike Coman gets in on the Senior Committee vote.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
This year needs to happen. Noth of this nonsense. Uh god,
it's a great question. She's coming out of heels of
the baseball one yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yes, in the text line, in this market, of all markets,
you think it would be flooded with Of course, he's
the first about however, and a lot of people on
the text line are split on this.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Make the case for both those guys. Because you brought
up a great point, I'm going to take this and
run with it. What'd you say, history of the NFL?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Can you write the book of the history of the
NFL with his picture on it or off it?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
He wouldn't need to be on it. No, But now
I bring up could you write the history of the
Seahawks great defense which was the best of that discussion?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Right? Not history of the NFL? Right, but.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
That type of defense without Earle on it?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Probably not, But to me, that's a different discussion. Every
team has a history of its greatest defense.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Or can you write the book with Marshawn on it?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Now, that's that's the question you brought up that I went.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
There's an eye test with Marshawn But that's might go
what Chris said with Jason Taylor, right, or some of
those guys like we feel different about him maybe than
others would.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
There are some.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
People that are on the Hall of Fame voting committee
that don't like Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yeah you think that matters because they because they are
guys that work in your world a professional football writers.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So that's right.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Absolutely, there were national people that were ticked off and
would cry to the league about how Marshawn Lynch was
not available.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
To get over yourselves.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
There were some in this market that did that. I
know there were, And I said, what are we doing?
First of all, I got fifty two other players to
talk to? And secondly I had a great relationship with
I thought I did.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Anyway, from my perspective, with Marshawn Lynch, I just didn't
need to quote him.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
No, he was fine. Just you knew how to handle him.
Just walk away, all right. So yeah, we'll have to
touch in on that a little bit. Well, we've got
our buddy Brandon Sprague from the Fans going to join
us in Portland at twelve twenty. I'm going to kind
of go back into the you know the Jake Dicker,
they're not our buddies. Conversation a little bit and also
talk some NBA with her up some beef.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, you know, what the hell.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
And then we got our patient from Virginia, Mason Franciscan
health cracking hockey fights cancer at twelve forty five see
pelos old at one. McDonald's speaking in the one o'clock hour.
Will play that coming up to two because Mike's not
feeling well, so he's off today, so I'll be sure
to ask questions.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Please just funnel me and I can go straight onto
your air.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I will do that. Thank you, you're welcome. That's Ian Furness,
Anderson Hurst, Jessamin McIntyre. There'll be on from twelve to three.
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