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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hi, I'm Caitlin Russell. Welcome to the Healing Like Podcast.
I am a psychic intuitive who's been reading tarot cards
for over twenty five years. I'm also MAYI certified. Join
me as I read cards, share intuitive messages, promote healing,
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Speaker 3 (01:11):
Hi, everybody, and welcome to the Healing Light Podcast. I
am your host, Caitland Russell. We have a wonderful guest
joining us tonight before but before I get to barber
with and her amazing story. I can't wait to interview her.
I wanted to thank all of you for a successful
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Season one. It was a lot of fun. I had
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and uh, it was all such a whirlwind. I can't
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As always, they are our hosts and they do a
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was thinking about my season two, I wanted to really
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amp up my guest list. I want to get you know,
intriguing top gits, topics, things that I've been curious about
that I know you will too. And I was just
brewing with all these ideas and then I came across
Barbara and well, we'll get to her background in a second,
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but I said, oh, I knew I I had to
have her on, and I knew I had to make
her my season two premiere because this is big, so
I'm very excited. So let's get to it. So, Barbara,
thank you so much for joining the Healing Light podcast.
I really appreciate it. How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Oh, Hi, Caitlin, thanks so much for having me. I'm great.
I'm just great. I am anxious to chat.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, absolutely so. When I was doing a little bit
of research on you, your biography, I can't believe this.
I don't know how you how you do it all
Peace Activists Award winning author Psychic channel to Albert Einstein, publisher, performer,
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workshop facilitator, and inspirational speaker. And you also wrote six
books on metaphysics, which is another topic which I am
always I'm really I don't know a lot about metaphysics,
but it always has intrigued me. So I'm very excited
about that. So what the first thing that grabbed me
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that I have to know, because I mean, you're a psychic.
I'm a psychic. But I've heard this many many years ago,
and I've seen documentaries on people who do this. Is
you do something called channeling. So can you tell me?
As a psychic, you know, what's the difference between like
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a psychic being like me who receives messages from spirit
and someone who channels or you know, can you do
both or what is that all about?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Well? I think I think you can do both, but
I also think that there is a difference. So for me,
channeling I like to describe as against my music because
I began playing the piano when I was very very young.
I taught myself and I was writing songs by the
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time I was twelve or thirteen, and that to me
is channeling where I would go into what I called
outer space and I would listen for the song and
then I would translate it and bring it back to
the piano and put the words and all that to it.
So that is kind of what channeling does, my impression,
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And you can correct me if I'm wrong about you
receiving messages about people. It's channeling. You're listening for the message.
But I think it's that intuit I like to call
it intuitive arts because those of us who are musicians
are artists. We're in that same zone as you are
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a psychic. It's that intuitive level of communication and taking
in information. So yeah, I think you can be bold,
all right.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Interesting, So yeah, I kind of that kind of makes
sense to me because when I when I am in
a session and I'm in that deep state of listening
and connecting with with spirit, you, I do go into
like a completely different zone and it's just everything else
around me disappears, and I'm totally focused on what the messages.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Are and you're listening, right, you're listening right.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'm absolutely listening to you know, concentrating and listening and
uh yeah, So okay, So that's that's a different way
to look at it now before we get into Albert Einstein.
So when we think about channeling, what kind of when
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you're sitting with someone you're channeling, or you're wherever you
are and maybe you're your public speaker and you're speaking someone,
what sort of experiences is that like do you change
your voice, do you change your tone, or how does
that all work?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
If you were to see me do my public speaking
and my inspirational speaking that I do, there's a much
more kind of human stumbling side of it. I'm okay
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with it. I'm a really good public speaker, but I
still stumble around and don't when you hear the channeling,
there is a there's, first of all, there's a heightened
awareness of what I think is our bodies that resonate
with the truth. So it isn't even intellectualizing so much
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as it there's this feeling about it. But then the
way that the words are put together and the flow
of it is it just blows me away to have
it be so exacting. But I started out my very
first group channel that I did at nineteen ninety three.
In fact, it's thirty year anniversary coming up December fourteenth
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of our first group channel. My channeling voice had a
very heavy accent, and it took me a while to
put the pieces together. Well, it was over a long
period of time that all the pieces fell together, but
it like a Yiddish accent. And we used to joke
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because my associates and I would try to duplicate it
when I wasn't channeling, and I could never do it.
So but now people say now that there's a very
there's kind of a seamless flow from when I, you know,
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I start okay, let's take some deep breaths and the
and and that my voice does it. You can hear
changes in it.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
All right, definitely, So it sounds like it's you embody,
what your you know, your your channeling. If I've got
that right, Okay, So I have to know about Albert Einstein.
Why Albert Einstein? How did this all come about? And
what happens when you're channeling?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, how it all came about was that I had
a mentor in high school, uh Eunice McCoy, and she channeled.
She was just an antenna, that's all she said she was.
She would go into outer space and she wouldn't remember anything,
but he was picking up my higher power. And so
when I started doing groups, I was okay. Actually, when
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I started to channel, that's how I thought of myself
as just an antenna. There was an angels or dead
people or anything. So when I started doing groups, my
two associates, Kim and Teresa, the Psychic sorority we call ourselves,
they asked who are you and the answer was, you
can call us angels. And I wasn't comfortable with that,
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but we decided that because the information was so high,
high level, and it was changing our lives in the
way that we never anticipated. I didn't know what to
expect when I said, Hey, I'd like to channel for
a group. What would these voices say? I had no
preconceived idea, and so when these voices started saying they
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were angels and that they were here for a very
specific mission. That they had this revolutionary way that they
were developing for humanity to resolve conflict first within the self,
that was also a pathway to world peace, and it
was so revolutionary, but they needed human beings and conflict
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to test it on. And the three of us apparently
had volunteered and were chosen to do this, and so
that's how the whole group started, and then the angels came.
And once we published our first book, Diaries of a
Psychic Sorority, which is the true story of how this
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all started, and all the transcripts from the original channeling.
I was contacted by a tabloid in London, like a
paranormal tabloid from London in nineteen ninety this is nineteen
ninety eight, wanting an interview with Princess Die from beyond
the grave. And I I had never done any such thing.
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The dead people had been coming to me since this
whole opening was coming on, and and plus a tabloid,
but I did it. I channeled it, I typed the
questions and the answers, and then printed it and read it,
and they flew me out to New York and spent
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five hours with me interviewing me. That they didn't want it. Wow,
And so my agent and I sat down and said, well,
let's make a list of other dead people who might
want to. So we made this long list, and some
of them didn't. Elvis didn't, he was getting in too
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much trouble. But so the next one up was Nicole
Brown Simpson and that was a totally mind blowing thing
a channel to do. And I believe that that one
I spoke and we recorded and transcribed, so I sort
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of embodied her. And by the time we got out
to John Kennedy, who told us pretty much what we're
finding out now in this day and age of what happened,
what really happened to him. He told us, don't don't worry.
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We're going to tell you who's who will be next,
because we're writing a book, and so we'll tell you
who's going to be up. And then the next one
was Jackie and she had she did this whole thing
I'm publishing. And then Albert Einstein and I we didn't
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even have him on the original list. I was not
like any big Albert Einstein fan. I dropped out of
physics and math to opt for music and wanted to
be a rock star, and that was my deal. I
wasn't planning to be any kind of spiritual leader. So
but when he came up and I channeled him, I spoke,
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this is the voice, this is the Yiddish accent. This
is even my first, very first automatic writing that I
did in nineteen eighty seven. And when I said who
are you and they said we are sound back then sound,
and I thought, fine, I've been writing songs now all
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these years. I mean, sure, sound, But that was Albert
Einstein in there. And I think even back to the
music that I did at such an early age, I
just knew and felt like I knew him. And then
so that's then I decided to do a book just
for him. First I put out Party of twelve, the
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Afterlife Interviews, which with his interview and the others, and
then I did one just for him.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So, you know, it just to me, it sounds like
I think I get this too. When you when you
tune in to the universe, to the vibrations, you know,
we always call that we you know, we we vibrate
at a high level. That it it makes you, It
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helps you connect. So I'm just I'm wondering if he
was seeking someone and then you come along with your
talents and what you do and then makes that connection.
I just wondering if that's if that would be something
that would be the case. But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I just think that, Yeah, maybe I've asked myself that
because he died. I was born in February seventh, nineteen
fifty five, and he died in April of nineteen fifty five.
And his last paper, his last manifesto that he wrote
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before he died with Bertrand Russell, was read on July ninth,
nineteen fifty five in London, and it was a plea
to world governments to resolve conflicts peacefully because World War
three would be the end of us. So I think
he died with a huge, huge emotional attachment to not
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just world peace considering what he did in his life,
but to articulate a unified field theory because he couldn't
do that in life. He didn't do it, So I
think he took that energy and from what I believe
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about going into afterlife, whatever we're emotionally focused on and
holding on to when we pass, we take that, which
is why we have so many recurring lives with the
same people come up, because we're attached to them. So
he was highly motivated.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Wow, So talk about Einstein and the Party and how
is that all tied together to what you do? Well?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
When Einstein and the Party revealed themselves that year in
nineteen ninety eight, and in one month, I had twelve
interviews with these twelve souls in Afterlife who were saying
they were working for world peace. And at the end
of Party of Twelve, there's it's called the Manifesto of
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the Destiny of Peace, and it's their commitment that no
matter how many lifetimes it takes, we're going to create
a world that's based with a compassionate on a compassionate
infrastructure what we're kind of going through now. So that's
been their mission and it's just that party seems to
have grown and grown and grown and grown and grown,
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and now it's quite a party. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So you know, in these in the times that we're
living in, you know, some pretty terrible stuff is going
on in the world in the news. There's a lot
of pain and suffering, and you know that I say
it every year that I just for my wishes is
world peace? You know that that's that's I think, I
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think that resonates a lot of people. So that is
a pretty powerful message. And the fact that essentially they
connect with you and chose chose you, that that makes
it almost like one of your missions in life, if
I'm understanding correctly, is for conflict resolution and world peace.
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You know, because if you can and can't accomplish it
in life, then you know, you're right, It makes sense
that you kind of carry that on with you and
then you can pass it on, which also makes a
lot of sense, like because that's kind of like the
messages you know that they wanted to get out what
they couldn't get out, and they were living and I
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really believe that when they when they cross over, that
they do want to they want to finish, you know,
what they need to what they need to get out
in the world. It's basically basically how I feel that works.
So that makes a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So yeah, well, and you have to understand this was
this was nineteen ninety three. Nineteen ninety three was probably
one of the last pivotal times in our at least
US history where we weren't off, you know, creating nine
new wars, and there was kind of an economic prosperity
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and world peace was not a big deal in nineteen
ninety three. But they from the very beginning said we're
here to create a process, step by step instructions for
one person at the times, each individual, and that learning
that we did, the Psychic Sorority did and kind of
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worked there. We tested their process and not only did
it work, but it worked miraculously, and so we created
conflict revolution not only because it's revolutionary. It's not resolution,
it is an inner resolution, but it's really about revolving
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the focus back to self and using these we call
them the maps of human consciousness that Einstein has laid
out in his unified field theory as to why this works,
you know, as within so without right, and this gravitational
wave that is our energy is perfectly projected into the lens.
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Whatever is on that gravitational wave that's flowing up from
the center of the Earth and has all of our
mathematics on it, it's going to perfectly project into the
lens of the physical world. And that's why we can
have wars and it's still a perfectly operating system. Because
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what Einstein is proposing is that there's these three human
dimensions on this wave, and if we learn how to
align them to compassion, which she gives us a scientific,
quantifiable definition of compassion, then we naturally manifest peace in
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the lens. It's not something we have to go into
the lens and manipulate people to find peace. We do
it here first, in this kind of radical self responsibility
way and this revolutionary new way of putting together psychology
and the psyche, and it will change what happens around us,
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and it certainly works on the microcosm. So so now
that I'm on my World Peace Tour inspiring people to
have this conversation and to understand that regardless of if
you use conflict revolution or you use your own process
of turning inward and finding that peace within you, we
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have to know that it has an impact on the
global the global level as well the macrocosm as well.
We can't discount the work that we do to find
inner peace in its effect on the macrocosm.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's pretty profound to me, because you know, in in essence,
if we all hold this power inside, because I think
a lot of people feel powerless and helpless to do anything.
You know, people need something to hope for, something, people
need something to look forward to. And if we can,
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if we can channel that, speaking of channeling, then we
all can be a change for this, you know. And
I think, I don't know if people in our busy
lives and all the stuff that we have going on
and really think that they can make an effective change
or And what you're saying, and what the Party and
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Albert Einstein thing are saying is that yes, you absolutely can.
And it has a ripple effect down the line to
other people. Absolutely, And that's that gives me hope.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Well, and I had I just had a client who
he came to me and he was like literally, he's like,
I know this is going to turn around, but I
am in the darkest, darkest night of my soul. My
my my wife who I'm divorcing, is trying to just
destroy me. And you know, he went through the whole
rhetoric of the lawyers and this and everything that's going
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on on the outside, and when we were done, he
was so relieved because he learned what was his domain,
what did he have, what he could do because he
wanted to do more, and he can't. Sometimes you just can't.
You can't call another lawyer, you can't do another thing.
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But if you're in that place. Now he has a
process for when he is standing in line at the supermarket, right,
and it's not a time where you're dealing with your kids,
or you're speaking in front of the school board, or
you're making decisions. You're just in those in between times.
Now he has a completely new focus. Now he has
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a step by step instructions for when that trigger comes up,
that emotional trigger. He has a completely different way that
he's going to deal with it. Then let it marry
to thoughts of his ex wife and project stuff out
on her. Now he has a whole new, revolutionary way
to deal with it while he's standing in line of
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the supermarket. And he just by the end of the
whole reading, he was really really enlightened and excited for
the first time in a long time. And people need hope, man, people,
and they need to know these simple things that they
can do. You don't have to wait for everybody. It's
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not the conflict. Revolution is in the process that where
you have to have the person sit down and negotiate,
you can do it anytime, and it makes a huge difference.
I think, I know.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Absolutely that I'm glad that the I'm so happy that
you were able to give him that hope, you know,
because like you said, I said it earlier that we
all need hope, we all need to believe. And you know,
and I have said this to people I know and
who are struggling to it gets better if he does.
You know, it does feel better.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Honest.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I know you don't believe it, but right now you
know it does. And uh, you know, we are going
to survive this world. So when we're talking about scientific
world and metaphysics, I was wondering, because you know, science
and you know, channeling psychics kind of you wouldn't think
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really nashes with this. And I know that Neil de
grass Tyson said that, and he's a world renowned scientist
as well. He said that as a scientist that he
would want evidence because that's what he's he's you know,
that's what he bases it on. And he doesn't discount wigion,
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he doesn't discount psych journey anything like that, but he
wants to receive evidence. So when you are working with
scientific field, like what what do they what are your
impressions if you've if you've had me with with them
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in what you do.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I have had uh. I wouldn't say a whole lot
of input from scientists, but I have had enough from
the amateur physicists, the physics teachers who have been astounded
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by it. The one event that I attended that I
like to share about this was it was I was
booked into. Uh. It was called a metaphysical meet up.
If you know meet up, you you meet up online,
but you actually have live events that you go to.
So I walked into this meetup metaphysical. I'm thinking, woo woo,
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right talking with angels and stuff. No, No, they were
amateur chemists, amateur physicists, and they were actually having conversations
about what the latest scientific journals were saying. And so
I was getting very nervous about this. Okay, and finally
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somebody in the back yelled, you know, can we hear
Barbera speak? And I got up and I said, okay,
here's the deal. I am not a scientist, I'm not
a chemist. I'm not anything like that. I talked to
dead people, and I think I talked to Alverred Einstein
and this is his unified field theory that he's delivered
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to me from afterlife. And I'm not here to convince
you of this, but I would like for you to
see this and then tell me what you think, because
I don't know. I'm not a scientist. I just did this.
I channeled and then I listened, and then I you know,
we put it all together, but it seems to make
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a lot of sense. And afterwards, every single one of
them had lost their minds. The physicists was like, you've
taken the zero point gravity field theory and you've married
it with the blah blah blah, and you're having the
other thing, and that's what you did, right, right right,
And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about,
but maybe. And so as I've traveled the world, and
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for many years I would mostly work in Europe several
times in winter, and I would do my workshops and
I would draw the whole thing from nothing to everything,
the whole unified field theory, and on the breaks, everyone
would just stand there. We would just stand there like
it was some big mandela, and people would say, oh,
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where's this, you know, where's rainbow bridge or you know,
where's whatever? We could put everything on these maps. And
so right now I'm on my peace tour, I'm seeking
out particular people who I think it will have that
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kind of shifty aha effect. And I would love to
show Neil deGrasse Tyson. I would love to show it
to him, because that's what I would say to him.
You know, I've just come to believe that it's Einstein
because it's so brilliant, and it's over thirty years and
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it's gradual. It wasn't like I decided I was going to,
you know, a channel Albert Einstein one day out of
the blue. It has this long history and lots of
witnesses and things that I couldn't have manipulated to make
come about. So please tell me what you think it is, Neil.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I you would probably stump him on that.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I think I think he. I think he'd have the
same reaction that everyone else does when they I was
just on another podcast earlier today and she was just
like boing boing, boying, Oh my god, that's just it's
just so Einsteinian. It really is so brilliant. I'd like
to think it's me, but I don't think partly.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Well, yeah, that's amazing so yeah, because I was reading about,
you know, well, metaphysics and all that, So how does
how does that all relate? I mean, if I'm not
I kind of touched my toes in that. As a healer,
especially with reiki, you talk about a lot about metaphysics
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and stuff and vibrational and all that stuff and connecting
with the other side. So do you are you able
to speak to that about how that relates or.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Well? It is the field in which the work is classified,
I think because it's speculative. In fact, one scientist, I
think it was Brian Green, came up with this theory
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very recently that that the origins of the universe are
really a black hole. And it fits right in with
everything that we've been saying for all these years we've
been doing Einstein's stuff. But the debunking of it was
not debunking, but the challenge of it was you'll never
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be able to prove it. So that's the thing about
metaphysics is it's a I think it's just like this
kind of imaginative science that Einstein probably had a hand in.
I don't know if he would have called it metaphysics,
but that's what thought experiments are you know, he imagined
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himself riding a wave of light. Now he could never
prove it. I mean, you could never ride a wave
of light that way, but by doing that it triggered
his imagination than to find channel the mathematics that then
the scientists could And isn't that what science is though?
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I mean, it's always evolving. He changed what two hundred
and seventy years of Newtonian science when he did equals
mc squared, and everything changed forever. So that's what I feel.
This information that's come through me is it's going to
change the way psychology deals with things. And here's this thing.
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Is the worldview that we hold is not that we're
wounded and not that we need healing. It's that there's
a certain way that our operating system runs most regeneratively
and to maximize capacity. And if we don't operate our
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system that way, then it looks like we're wounded. So,
for example, in our system emotion, we want the whole everything.
We want everything we want from the lowest to the highest.
We want the unified field of emotion to move through
our bodies with our breath, but not attached to any
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thinking process that could be projected outside. Like you have anger,
it comes into your thought processes and you think about
your sister in law who doesn't respect you or whatever,
and you project that out. So there's a whole different
way that emotion is processed that that stops that projection.
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And when you practice it as a rule, like just
as a rule, you end up not projecting on anybody.
And when you project, when you when you do, let
those projections come up. We're projecting on everybody. We hardly
even know like who's who when we're doing that. So
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there's different ways of handling our what we call three
human dimensions that we work with that revolutionize how how
healing healing takes place.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Oh interesting lot to think about. So with if your
workshops and classes regarding conflict resolution resolution revolution whoa So
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if you could talk about those and what the impact
that those have and when you're on your students and
how that all works.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Love to hear, yes, yes, So the So I begin
and I present the whole unified field theories, the maps
of human consciousness, how it all works, how the system works,
and the whole thing. And then we everybody brings their
conflict and of course I bring a conflict, which which
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I know the miraculous ending to, but that doesn't prevent
me from using my dramatic skills to accentuate how bad
it was in the beginning. And then we we set
about to break out these conflicts into the three human
dimensions that we learn about emotion, intuition, and intellect, and
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so emotion solar plexus, intuition heart intellect has and they
have very specific definitions for this modality. And so emotion
is this, it's this primordial soup of creation. It's what's
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at the root of everything, even the chair, the bed,
everything in the physical world at his roots. Because as
with this is all coming from within us, right, everything
the world starts within us, so it's all in there,
and then it moves and it becomes the sound the
voice of compassion, because compassion has been identified as the
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fifth fundamental force of the universe. It's kind of the
God force, and we can get into that too. But
inside us, intuition is the voice of compassion within us,
and it's carried on emotion. So intuition is the impelling
voice telling us the next most advantageous step for the
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good of the whole. So intuition becomes a natural function
of every human being. That it's impelling us like our
heart to beat, telling us to breathe, and then impelling
us to turn left or call our mother or it's
but then the third into it is intellect, the third
(38:22):
human dimension, and that's where all the descriptions come about.
So there is a level of our thinking that we
don't hear. We call it the subatomic level that is
saying that is a chair, that is a chair, that
is a chair, that is a chair, that is a chair,
and it's and it's part of what creates the very
(38:44):
human experience where we're separate, right, We're separate from the chair,
and we're separate from each other. So intellect is so
important in the creation of this universe. But it's also
where free will exists. So intuition can be impelling you
to take this step that's going to be good for
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the whole and because it's the voice of compassion that
knows that, but intellect has the power to say no, no,
we've all done it, you know it. Intuition is telling
you to rest, right, you get that message, Oh you
just rest. Your body wants to rest. I can't rest.
(39:25):
I've got a hundred million things to do, and then
we make a decision. And Einstein says this point, this
is the root of all conflicts of the world. This
is the root. This is the root of all the wars,
everything that we're experiencing. Because if humans lived where intuition
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was impelling and intellect was trained not to be the
thing that's trying to control and manipulate and figure out,
but to reduce that fluctuation of our thinking, so we
can be in that present moment listening for what intuition
wants us to do and then doing it. That is
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what is aligned to compassion, that is our natural way
that would then manifest. We'd be making decisions for the
good of the whole, starting with ourselves, so intellect would
not have control of the whole ship. It would be
working with intuition and our breath, work with our emotion,
and from that. This is the theory. This is the
(40:35):
why we're calling for the participation of the willing to
do this worldwide non violent action to end the age
of war. This is how we're doing it, This small,
intermit intricate inner change. Is the theory that if we
do this, if enough of us do this, we will
change the manifestation of what's happening around us.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
My mind is absolutely blown right now.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
That is amazing, isn't it just Einsteinian?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
It absolutely is.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, that's just like I said. You know, we all
need something to look forward to and believe in, and
you know that's if we could. If when we do this,
then our whole world can change, the whole world, focus
can change music.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Well, and let me just say one quick thing about
that is that because we've been doing it in the
microcosm like I've been doing, all of us who practition this,
I do it in my own life. I see the
miracles every single day. I've seen the miracles through my
whole life of practitioning this, so I'm addicted to it.
(41:51):
That's why I can be so joyful because I see
what it does for my life. Certainly it must then
work on the macrocosm, that's all I can think of.
But in the meantime, you're doing your own life, You're
thriving more, you're healthier.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Mm hmm. Absolutely, I am definitely going to be tuning
in to that more. And you know, sharing that with
the world inspired me.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
So yes, good, it's good, good, good, I've done my job.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Hey, you have absolutely, Yeah, our listeners are going to
love this. So when you think about what comes next,
because to me, when I was reading a biography, it's
done a lot. What what comes next for you? What
you know? What goals do you have or what are
(42:44):
your plans that that people who follow you might want
to be interest would what would they be interested in knowing?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Well? My plans are that for the past. Since twenty eleven,
I've been on a different path. I've been I became
a journalist, and I founded a media co op, the
Wisconsin Citizens Media Cooperative, and I've been doing investigative journalism
(43:16):
and also other different revenue streams. I've been the business
manager of the Lapointe Center for the Arts. I live
on a small island in northern Wisconsin, and so the
plan has been that I've ended all of my other
revenue streams and focused everything on bringing together the whole
(43:42):
library diaries and my associate also has a book called
Second Coming, Awakening to Christ Within, and I've gone on.
Starting on July ninth, I started my peace tour, my
World Peace Tour, and my intention is to bring this
(44:02):
information out into the world that we can a start
talking about it, be giving people hope that and giving
them even even if you don't go off and practition
conflict revolution, you're not going to forget this. You've already
you can unsee it. It just resonates so much and
(44:23):
it gives people so much sort of instant hope, and
also to network like this is so important, not just
for us and all these amazing people on podcasts. Right now,
I do three four podcasts a week, and everybody's talking
and everybody's getting it. Everybody wants to talk about it.
(44:43):
They want to know what to do for peace. But
also I'm leaving in July. At the end of January
for the UK. I'm spending two months in Europe and
it's the same thing. I'm going to travel around, mostly
the UK, but I'm going to jump over to France
for a few weeks and then I've got some other
(45:04):
places I might try to find some scientists and some
psychologists that i want to go see. But it's about
having these conversations, connecting in person, especially after the last
three four years where we've been so separated from each other.
And oddly enough, I was just on a podcast with
(45:24):
Jack and Deborah from it's called the Ethereous Society, and
it's in the UK. Well, it's all over the world,
but there's UK headquarters. And the guy who started it
was named George King, and in nineteen fifty four he
got the message that he was going to be channeling
some group of extraterrestrials he called it, who were basically
(45:49):
working in the afterlife for world peace. And they have
this huge society all around the world who and George
King worked with Einstein in real life. And July ninth,
July eighth and ninth is the biggest holiday of the
(46:12):
Theorious Society because of something that happened. So I'm on
this podcast, I'm on my way to England. They're in England.
There's a whole network of them all over the country.
So it's just like, step by step, the synchronicity is
falling in my lap and I'm following it and I just,
(46:32):
you know, I have to say, my dream is that
Einstein wins a Nobel Peace Prize posthumously. That would be
just the epitome of my life's work. But this is
what I mean. If I'm lucky, where's the wood to
knock on? My mom lived to be ninety five. My
dad lived to me ninety seven. I've got several couple
(46:57):
more decades ahead, so I'm.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
All in right awesome. So if I want to, we
need to find your find your books, sign up for
your workshops to see you. How do they how do
they find you?
Speaker 4 (47:18):
I've got two websites. One is Barbara with b A
R B A R A W I T H with
like the preposition Barbara with dot com and I've got
a reading sale going on right now too, And all
of my books and all the podcasts and everything else
(47:40):
is on Synergy Alliance dot l l C. And I'm
sure you can drop these in your info for your folks,
and you can sign up and get notices. I'm creating
events as I go. It's been very exciting that way.
They're there forming on their own, so you can keep
(48:02):
up to date with where I'm going and look at
all the books. It's really a fascinating story. I hope
people look into it right.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Absolutely. Oh, I'm writing all this down.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Hik oh.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Absolutely and just thrilled me and really excite me. So
so thank you very much. So, people who are listening,
I want you to follow Barbara and buy her books,
and maybe sign up for workshop and look for her
around the world because big things are coming her way
and ours as well, and our world is going to
(48:41):
be a better place because of people like you, Barbert.
So thank you very much, thank you. It's the Healing
Light podcast and I really appreciate you spending your time
with me.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Absolutely thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
All right, have a good night, thank you.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Bye. I
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Speaker 3 (01:11):
Hi, everybody, and welcome to the Healing Light Podcast. I
am your host, Caitland Russell. We have a wonderful guest
joining us tonight before but before I get to barber
with and her amazing story. I can't wait to interview her.
I wanted to thank all of you for a successful
(01:33):
Season one. It was a lot of fun. I had
a lot of interesting topics, topics, a lot of great guests,
and uh, it was all such a whirlwind. I can't
believe that we're on the season two. As always, I
welcome your input. So if you have a show idea
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(02:17):
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As always, they are our hosts and they do a
great job, so thank you very much. So when I
was thinking about my season two, I wanted to really
(02:38):
amp up my guest list. I want to get you know,
intriguing top gits, topics, things that I've been curious about
that I know you will too. And I was just
brewing with all these ideas and then I came across
Barbara and well, we'll get to her background in a second,
(02:58):
but I said, oh, I knew I I had to
have her on, and I knew I had to make
her my season two premiere because this is big, so
I'm very excited. So let's get to it. So, Barbara,
thank you so much for joining the Healing Light podcast.
I really appreciate it. How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Oh, Hi, Caitlin, thanks so much for having me. I'm great.
I'm just great. I am anxious to chat.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, absolutely so. When I was doing a little bit
of research on you, your biography, I can't believe this.
I don't know how you how you do it all
Peace Activists Award winning author Psychic channel to Albert Einstein, publisher, performer,
(03:46):
workshop facilitator, and inspirational speaker. And you also wrote six
books on metaphysics, which is another topic which I am
always I'm really I don't know a lot about metaphysics,
but it always has intrigued me. So I'm very excited
about that. So what the first thing that grabbed me
(04:09):
that I have to know, because I mean, you're a psychic.
I'm a psychic. But I've heard this many many years ago,
and I've seen documentaries on people who do this. Is
you do something called channeling. So can you tell me?
As a psychic, you know, what's the difference between like
(04:32):
a psychic being like me who receives messages from spirit
and someone who channels or you know, can you do
both or what is that all about?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Well? I think I think you can do both, but
I also think that there is a difference. So for me,
channeling I like to describe as against my music because
I began playing the piano when I was very very young.
I taught myself and I was writing songs by the
(05:07):
time I was twelve or thirteen, and that to me
is channeling where I would go into what I called
outer space and I would listen for the song and
then I would translate it and bring it back to
the piano and put the words and all that to it.
So that is kind of what channeling does, my impression,
(05:29):
And you can correct me if I'm wrong about you
receiving messages about people. It's channeling. You're listening for the message.
But I think it's that intuit I like to call
it intuitive arts because those of us who are musicians
are artists. We're in that same zone as you are
(05:52):
a psychic. It's that intuitive level of communication and taking
in information. So yeah, I think you can be bold,
all right.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Interesting, So yeah, I kind of that kind of makes
sense to me because when I when I am in
a session and I'm in that deep state of listening
and connecting with with spirit, you, I do go into
like a completely different zone and it's just everything else
around me disappears, and I'm totally focused on what the messages.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Are and you're listening, right, you're listening right.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'm absolutely listening to you know, concentrating and listening and
uh yeah, So okay, So that's that's a different way
to look at it now before we get into Albert Einstein.
So when we think about channeling, what kind of when
(06:55):
you're sitting with someone you're channeling, or you're wherever you
are and maybe you're your public speaker and you're speaking someone,
what sort of experiences is that like do you change
your voice, do you change your tone, or how does
that all work?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
If you were to see me do my public speaking
and my inspirational speaking that I do, there's a much
more kind of human stumbling side of it. I'm okay
(07:36):
with it. I'm a really good public speaker, but I
still stumble around and don't when you hear the channeling,
there is a there's, first of all, there's a heightened
awareness of what I think is our bodies that resonate
with the truth. So it isn't even intellectualizing so much
(07:59):
as it there's this feeling about it. But then the
way that the words are put together and the flow
of it is it just blows me away to have
it be so exacting. But I started out my very
first group channel that I did at nineteen ninety three.
In fact, it's thirty year anniversary coming up December fourteenth
(08:21):
of our first group channel. My channeling voice had a
very heavy accent, and it took me a while to
put the pieces together. Well, it was over a long
period of time that all the pieces fell together, but
it like a Yiddish accent. And we used to joke
(08:46):
because my associates and I would try to duplicate it
when I wasn't channeling, and I could never do it.
So but now people say now that there's a very
there's kind of a seamless flow from when I, you know,
(09:09):
I start okay, let's take some deep breaths and the
and and that my voice does it. You can hear
changes in it.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
All right, definitely, So it sounds like it's you embody,
what your you know, your your channeling. If I've got
that right, Okay, So I have to know about Albert Einstein.
Why Albert Einstein? How did this all come about? And
what happens when you're channeling?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, how it all came about was that I had
a mentor in high school, uh Eunice McCoy, and she channeled.
She was just an antenna, that's all she said she was.
She would go into outer space and she wouldn't remember anything,
but he was picking up my higher power. And so
when I started doing groups, I was okay. Actually, when
(10:10):
I started to channel, that's how I thought of myself
as just an antenna. There was an angels or dead
people or anything. So when I started doing groups, my
two associates, Kim and Teresa, the Psychic sorority we call ourselves,
they asked who are you and the answer was, you
can call us angels. And I wasn't comfortable with that,
(10:33):
but we decided that because the information was so high,
high level, and it was changing our lives in the
way that we never anticipated. I didn't know what to
expect when I said, Hey, I'd like to channel for
a group. What would these voices say? I had no
preconceived idea, and so when these voices started saying they
(10:57):
were angels and that they were here for a very
specific mission. That they had this revolutionary way that they
were developing for humanity to resolve conflict first within the self,
that was also a pathway to world peace, and it
was so revolutionary, but they needed human beings and conflict
(11:18):
to test it on. And the three of us apparently
had volunteered and were chosen to do this, and so
that's how the whole group started, and then the angels came.
And once we published our first book, Diaries of a
Psychic Sorority, which is the true story of how this
(11:39):
all started, and all the transcripts from the original channeling.
I was contacted by a tabloid in London, like a
paranormal tabloid from London in nineteen ninety this is nineteen
ninety eight, wanting an interview with Princess Die from beyond
the grave. And I I had never done any such thing.
(12:02):
The dead people had been coming to me since this
whole opening was coming on, and and plus a tabloid,
but I did it. I channeled it, I typed the
questions and the answers, and then printed it and read it,
and they flew me out to New York and spent
(12:23):
five hours with me interviewing me. That they didn't want it. Wow,
And so my agent and I sat down and said, well,
let's make a list of other dead people who might
want to. So we made this long list, and some
of them didn't. Elvis didn't, he was getting in too
(12:43):
much trouble. But so the next one up was Nicole
Brown Simpson and that was a totally mind blowing thing
a channel to do. And I believe that that one
I spoke and we recorded and transcribed, so I sort
(13:06):
of embodied her. And by the time we got out
to John Kennedy, who told us pretty much what we're
finding out now in this day and age of what happened,
what really happened to him. He told us, don't don't worry.
(13:27):
We're going to tell you who's who will be next,
because we're writing a book, and so we'll tell you
who's going to be up. And then the next one
was Jackie and she had she did this whole thing
I'm publishing. And then Albert Einstein and I we didn't
(13:48):
even have him on the original list. I was not
like any big Albert Einstein fan. I dropped out of
physics and math to opt for music and wanted to
be a rock star, and that was my deal. I
wasn't planning to be any kind of spiritual leader. So
but when he came up and I channeled him, I spoke,
(14:09):
this is the voice, this is the Yiddish accent. This
is even my first, very first automatic writing that I
did in nineteen eighty seven. And when I said who
are you and they said we are sound back then sound,
and I thought, fine, I've been writing songs now all
(14:30):
these years. I mean, sure, sound, But that was Albert
Einstein in there. And I think even back to the
music that I did at such an early age, I
just knew and felt like I knew him. And then
so that's then I decided to do a book just
for him. First I put out Party of twelve, the
(14:52):
Afterlife Interviews, which with his interview and the others, and
then I did one just for him.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So, you know, it just to me, it sounds like
I think I get this too. When you when you
tune in to the universe, to the vibrations, you know,
we always call that we you know, we we vibrate
at a high level. That it it makes you, It
(15:21):
helps you connect. So I'm just I'm wondering if he
was seeking someone and then you come along with your
talents and what you do and then makes that connection.
I just wondering if that's if that would be something
that would be the case. But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I just think that, Yeah, maybe I've asked myself that
because he died. I was born in February seventh, nineteen
fifty five, and he died in April of nineteen fifty five.
And his last paper, his last manifesto that he wrote
(16:00):
before he died with Bertrand Russell, was read on July ninth,
nineteen fifty five in London, and it was a plea
to world governments to resolve conflicts peacefully because World War
three would be the end of us. So I think
he died with a huge, huge emotional attachment to not
(16:27):
just world peace considering what he did in his life,
but to articulate a unified field theory because he couldn't
do that in life. He didn't do it, So I
think he took that energy and from what I believe
(16:48):
about going into afterlife, whatever we're emotionally focused on and
holding on to when we pass, we take that, which
is why we have so many recurring lives with the
same people come up, because we're attached to them. So
he was highly motivated.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Wow, So talk about Einstein and the Party and how
is that all tied together to what you do? Well?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
When Einstein and the Party revealed themselves that year in
nineteen ninety eight, and in one month, I had twelve
interviews with these twelve souls in Afterlife who were saying
they were working for world peace. And at the end
of Party of Twelve, there's it's called the Manifesto of
(17:41):
the Destiny of Peace, and it's their commitment that no
matter how many lifetimes it takes, we're going to create
a world that's based with a compassionate on a compassionate
infrastructure what we're kind of going through now. So that's
been their mission and it's just that party seems to
have grown and grown and grown and grown and grown,
(18:03):
and now it's quite a party. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So you know, in these in the times that we're
living in, you know, some pretty terrible stuff is going
on in the world in the news. There's a lot
of pain and suffering, and you know that I say
it every year that I just for my wishes is
world peace? You know that that's that's I think, I
(18:29):
think that resonates a lot of people. So that is
a pretty powerful message. And the fact that essentially they
connect with you and chose chose you, that that makes
it almost like one of your missions in life, if
I'm understanding correctly, is for conflict resolution and world peace.
(18:54):
You know, because if you can and can't accomplish it
in life, then you know, you're right, It makes sense
that you kind of carry that on with you and
then you can pass it on, which also makes a
lot of sense, like because that's kind of like the
messages you know that they wanted to get out what
they couldn't get out, and they were living and I
(19:19):
really believe that when they when they cross over, that
they do want to they want to finish, you know,
what they need to what they need to get out
in the world. It's basically basically how I feel that works.
So that makes a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So yeah, well, and you have to understand this was
this was nineteen ninety three. Nineteen ninety three was probably
one of the last pivotal times in our at least
US history where we weren't off, you know, creating nine
new wars, and there was kind of an economic prosperity
(19:58):
and world peace was not a big deal in nineteen
ninety three. But they from the very beginning said we're
here to create a process, step by step instructions for
one person at the times, each individual, and that learning
that we did, the Psychic Sorority did and kind of
(20:19):
worked there. We tested their process and not only did
it work, but it worked miraculously, and so we created
conflict revolution not only because it's revolutionary. It's not resolution,
it is an inner resolution, but it's really about revolving
(20:40):
the focus back to self and using these we call
them the maps of human consciousness that Einstein has laid
out in his unified field theory as to why this works,
you know, as within so without right, and this gravitational
wave that is our energy is perfectly projected into the lens.
(21:06):
Whatever is on that gravitational wave that's flowing up from
the center of the Earth and has all of our
mathematics on it, it's going to perfectly project into the
lens of the physical world. And that's why we can
have wars and it's still a perfectly operating system. Because
(21:26):
what Einstein is proposing is that there's these three human
dimensions on this wave, and if we learn how to
align them to compassion, which she gives us a scientific,
quantifiable definition of compassion, then we naturally manifest peace in
(21:46):
the lens. It's not something we have to go into
the lens and manipulate people to find peace. We do
it here first, in this kind of radical self responsibility
way and this revolutionary new way of putting together psychology
and the psyche, and it will change what happens around us,
(22:07):
and it certainly works on the microcosm. So so now
that I'm on my World Peace Tour inspiring people to
have this conversation and to understand that regardless of if
you use conflict revolution or you use your own process
of turning inward and finding that peace within you, we
(22:30):
have to know that it has an impact on the
global the global level as well the macrocosm as well.
We can't discount the work that we do to find
inner peace in its effect on the macrocosm.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's pretty profound to me, because you know, in in essence,
if we all hold this power inside, because I think
a lot of people feel powerless and helpless to do anything.
You know, people need something to hope for, something, people
need something to look forward to. And if we can,
(23:07):
if we can channel that, speaking of channeling, then we
all can be a change for this, you know. And
I think, I don't know if people in our busy
lives and all the stuff that we have going on
and really think that they can make an effective change
or And what you're saying, and what the Party and
(23:32):
Albert Einstein thing are saying is that yes, you absolutely can.
And it has a ripple effect down the line to
other people. Absolutely, And that's that gives me hope.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Well, and I had I just had a client who
he came to me and he was like literally, he's like,
I know this is going to turn around, but I
am in the darkest, darkest night of my soul. My
my my wife who I'm divorcing, is trying to just
destroy me. And you know, he went through the whole
rhetoric of the lawyers and this and everything that's going
(24:09):
on on the outside, and when we were done, he
was so relieved because he learned what was his domain,
what did he have, what he could do because he
wanted to do more, and he can't. Sometimes you just can't.
You can't call another lawyer, you can't do another thing.
(24:29):
But if you're in that place. Now he has a
process for when he is standing in line at the supermarket, right,
and it's not a time where you're dealing with your kids,
or you're speaking in front of the school board, or
you're making decisions. You're just in those in between times.
Now he has a completely new focus. Now he has
(24:51):
a step by step instructions for when that trigger comes up,
that emotional trigger. He has a completely different way that
he's going to deal with it. Then let it marry
to thoughts of his ex wife and project stuff out
on her. Now he has a whole new, revolutionary way
to deal with it while he's standing in line of
(25:12):
the supermarket. And he just by the end of the
whole reading, he was really really enlightened and excited for
the first time in a long time. And people need hope, man, people,
and they need to know these simple things that they
can do. You don't have to wait for everybody. It's
(25:33):
not the conflict. Revolution is in the process that where
you have to have the person sit down and negotiate,
you can do it anytime, and it makes a huge difference.
I think, I know.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Absolutely that I'm glad that the I'm so happy that
you were able to give him that hope, you know,
because like you said, I said it earlier that we
all need hope, we all need to believe. And you know,
and I have said this to people I know and
who are struggling to it gets better if he does.
You know, it does feel better.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Honest.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I know you don't believe it, but right now you
know it does. And uh, you know, we are going
to survive this world. So when we're talking about scientific
world and metaphysics, I was wondering, because you know, science
and you know, channeling psychics kind of you wouldn't think
(26:30):
really nashes with this. And I know that Neil de
grass Tyson said that, and he's a world renowned scientist
as well. He said that as a scientist that he
would want evidence because that's what he's he's you know,
that's what he bases it on. And he doesn't discount wigion,
(26:52):
he doesn't discount psych journey anything like that, but he
wants to receive evidence. So when you are working with
scientific field, like what what do they what are your
impressions if you've if you've had me with with them
(27:12):
in what you do.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I have had uh. I wouldn't say a whole lot
of input from scientists, but I have had enough from
the amateur physicists, the physics teachers who have been astounded
(27:36):
by it. The one event that I attended that I
like to share about this was it was I was
booked into. Uh. It was called a metaphysical meet up.
If you know meet up, you you meet up online,
but you actually have live events that you go to.
So I walked into this meetup metaphysical. I'm thinking, woo woo,
(27:59):
right talking with angels and stuff. No, No, they were
amateur chemists, amateur physicists, and they were actually having conversations
about what the latest scientific journals were saying. And so
I was getting very nervous about this. Okay, and finally
(28:19):
somebody in the back yelled, you know, can we hear
Barbera speak? And I got up and I said, okay,
here's the deal. I am not a scientist, I'm not
a chemist. I'm not anything like that. I talked to
dead people, and I think I talked to Alverred Einstein
and this is his unified field theory that he's delivered
(28:39):
to me from afterlife. And I'm not here to convince
you of this, but I would like for you to
see this and then tell me what you think, because
I don't know. I'm not a scientist. I just did this.
I channeled and then I listened, and then I you know,
we put it all together, but it seems to make
(29:00):
a lot of sense. And afterwards, every single one of
them had lost their minds. The physicists was like, you've
taken the zero point gravity field theory and you've married
it with the blah blah blah, and you're having the
other thing, and that's what you did, right, right right,
And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about,
but maybe. And so as I've traveled the world, and
(29:26):
for many years I would mostly work in Europe several
times in winter, and I would do my workshops and
I would draw the whole thing from nothing to everything,
the whole unified field theory, and on the breaks, everyone
would just stand there. We would just stand there like
it was some big mandela, and people would say, oh,
(29:48):
where's this, you know, where's rainbow bridge or you know,
where's whatever? We could put everything on these maps. And
so right now I'm on my peace tour, I'm seeking
out particular people who I think it will have that
(30:11):
kind of shifty aha effect. And I would love to
show Neil deGrasse Tyson. I would love to show it
to him, because that's what I would say to him.
You know, I've just come to believe that it's Einstein
because it's so brilliant, and it's over thirty years and
(30:34):
it's gradual. It wasn't like I decided I was going to,
you know, a channel Albert Einstein one day out of
the blue. It has this long history and lots of
witnesses and things that I couldn't have manipulated to make
come about. So please tell me what you think it is, Neil.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I you would probably stump him on that.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I think I think he. I think he'd have the
same reaction that everyone else does when they I was
just on another podcast earlier today and she was just
like boing boing, boying, Oh my god, that's just it's
just so Einsteinian. It really is so brilliant. I'd like
to think it's me, but I don't think partly.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Well, yeah, that's amazing so yeah, because I was reading about,
you know, well, metaphysics and all that, So how does
how does that all relate? I mean, if I'm not
I kind of touched my toes in that. As a healer,
especially with reiki, you talk about a lot about metaphysics
(31:45):
and stuff and vibrational and all that stuff and connecting
with the other side. So do you are you able
to speak to that about how that relates or.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Well? It is the field in which the work is classified,
I think because it's speculative. In fact, one scientist, I
think it was Brian Green, came up with this theory
(32:18):
very recently that that the origins of the universe are
really a black hole. And it fits right in with
everything that we've been saying for all these years we've
been doing Einstein's stuff. But the debunking of it was
not debunking, but the challenge of it was you'll never
(32:40):
be able to prove it. So that's the thing about
metaphysics is it's a I think it's just like this
kind of imaginative science that Einstein probably had a hand in.
I don't know if he would have called it metaphysics,
but that's what thought experiments are you know, he imagined
(33:04):
himself riding a wave of light. Now he could never
prove it. I mean, you could never ride a wave
of light that way, but by doing that it triggered
his imagination than to find channel the mathematics that then
the scientists could And isn't that what science is though?
(33:25):
I mean, it's always evolving. He changed what two hundred
and seventy years of Newtonian science when he did equals
mc squared, and everything changed forever. So that's what I feel.
This information that's come through me is it's going to
change the way psychology deals with things. And here's this thing.
(33:51):
Is the worldview that we hold is not that we're
wounded and not that we need healing. It's that there's
a certain way that our operating system runs most regeneratively
and to maximize capacity. And if we don't operate our
(34:14):
system that way, then it looks like we're wounded. So,
for example, in our system emotion, we want the whole everything.
We want everything we want from the lowest to the highest.
We want the unified field of emotion to move through
our bodies with our breath, but not attached to any
(34:37):
thinking process that could be projected outside. Like you have anger,
it comes into your thought processes and you think about
your sister in law who doesn't respect you or whatever,
and you project that out. So there's a whole different
way that emotion is processed that that stops that projection.
(34:59):
And when you practice it as a rule, like just
as a rule, you end up not projecting on anybody.
And when you project, when you when you do, let
those projections come up. We're projecting on everybody. We hardly
even know like who's who when we're doing that. So
(35:20):
there's different ways of handling our what we call three
human dimensions that we work with that revolutionize how how
healing healing takes place.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Oh interesting lot to think about. So with if your
workshops and classes regarding conflict resolution resolution revolution whoa So
(35:57):
if you could talk about those and what the impact
that those have and when you're on your students and
how that all works.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Love to hear, yes, yes, So the So I begin
and I present the whole unified field theories, the maps
of human consciousness, how it all works, how the system works,
and the whole thing. And then we everybody brings their
conflict and of course I bring a conflict, which which
(36:30):
I know the miraculous ending to, but that doesn't prevent
me from using my dramatic skills to accentuate how bad
it was in the beginning. And then we we set
about to break out these conflicts into the three human
dimensions that we learn about emotion, intuition, and intellect, and
(36:54):
so emotion solar plexus, intuition heart intellect has and they
have very specific definitions for this modality. And so emotion
is this, it's this primordial soup of creation. It's what's
(37:14):
at the root of everything, even the chair, the bed,
everything in the physical world at his roots. Because as
with this is all coming from within us, right, everything
the world starts within us, so it's all in there,
and then it moves and it becomes the sound the
voice of compassion, because compassion has been identified as the
(37:38):
fifth fundamental force of the universe. It's kind of the
God force, and we can get into that too. But
inside us, intuition is the voice of compassion within us,
and it's carried on emotion. So intuition is the impelling
voice telling us the next most advantageous step for the
(38:00):
good of the whole. So intuition becomes a natural function
of every human being. That it's impelling us like our
heart to beat, telling us to breathe, and then impelling
us to turn left or call our mother or it's
but then the third into it is intellect, the third
(38:22):
human dimension, and that's where all the descriptions come about.
So there is a level of our thinking that we
don't hear. We call it the subatomic level that is
saying that is a chair, that is a chair, that
is a chair, that is a chair, that is a chair,
and it's and it's part of what creates the very
(38:44):
human experience where we're separate, right, We're separate from the chair,
and we're separate from each other. So intellect is so
important in the creation of this universe. But it's also
where free will exists. So intuition can be impelling you
to take this step that's going to be good for
(39:04):
the whole and because it's the voice of compassion that
knows that, but intellect has the power to say no, no,
we've all done it, you know it. Intuition is telling
you to rest, right, you get that message, Oh you
just rest. Your body wants to rest. I can't rest.
(39:25):
I've got a hundred million things to do, and then
we make a decision. And Einstein says this point, this
is the root of all conflicts of the world. This
is the root. This is the root of all the wars,
everything that we're experiencing. Because if humans lived where intuition
(39:48):
was impelling and intellect was trained not to be the
thing that's trying to control and manipulate and figure out,
but to reduce that fluctuation of our thinking, so we
can be in that present moment listening for what intuition
wants us to do and then doing it. That is
(40:11):
what is aligned to compassion, that is our natural way
that would then manifest. We'd be making decisions for the
good of the whole, starting with ourselves, so intellect would
not have control of the whole ship. It would be
working with intuition and our breath, work with our emotion,
and from that. This is the theory. This is the
(40:35):
why we're calling for the participation of the willing to
do this worldwide non violent action to end the age
of war. This is how we're doing it, This small,
intermit intricate inner change. Is the theory that if we
do this, if enough of us do this, we will
change the manifestation of what's happening around us.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
My mind is absolutely blown right now.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
That is amazing, isn't it just Einsteinian?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
It absolutely is.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, that's just like I said. You know, we all
need something to look forward to and believe in, and
you know that's if we could. If when we do this,
then our whole world can change, the whole world, focus
can change music.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Well, and let me just say one quick thing about
that is that because we've been doing it in the
microcosm like I've been doing, all of us who practition this,
I do it in my own life. I see the
miracles every single day. I've seen the miracles through my
whole life of practitioning this, so I'm addicted to it.
(41:51):
That's why I can be so joyful because I see
what it does for my life. Certainly it must then
work on the macrocosm, that's all I can think of.
But in the meantime, you're doing your own life, You're
thriving more, you're healthier.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Mm hmm. Absolutely, I am definitely going to be tuning
in to that more. And you know, sharing that with
the world inspired me.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
So yes, good, it's good, good, good, I've done my job.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Hey, you have absolutely, Yeah, our listeners are going to
love this. So when you think about what comes next,
because to me, when I was reading a biography, it's
done a lot. What what comes next for you? What
you know? What goals do you have or what are
(42:44):
your plans that that people who follow you might want
to be interest would what would they be interested in knowing?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Well? My plans are that for the past. Since twenty eleven,
I've been on a different path. I've been I became
a journalist, and I founded a media co op, the
Wisconsin Citizens Media Cooperative, and I've been doing investigative journalism
(43:16):
and also other different revenue streams. I've been the business
manager of the Lapointe Center for the Arts. I live
on a small island in northern Wisconsin, and so the
plan has been that I've ended all of my other
revenue streams and focused everything on bringing together the whole
(43:42):
library diaries and my associate also has a book called
Second Coming, Awakening to Christ Within, and I've gone on.
Starting on July ninth, I started my peace tour, my
World Peace Tour, and my intention is to bring this
(44:02):
information out into the world that we can a start
talking about it, be giving people hope that and giving
them even even if you don't go off and practition
conflict revolution, you're not going to forget this. You've already
you can unsee it. It just resonates so much and
(44:23):
it gives people so much sort of instant hope, and
also to network like this is so important, not just
for us and all these amazing people on podcasts. Right now,
I do three four podcasts a week, and everybody's talking
and everybody's getting it. Everybody wants to talk about it.
(44:43):
They want to know what to do for peace. But
also I'm leaving in July. At the end of January
for the UK. I'm spending two months in Europe and
it's the same thing. I'm going to travel around, mostly
the UK, but I'm going to jump over to France
for a few weeks and then I've got some other
(45:04):
places I might try to find some scientists and some
psychologists that i want to go see. But it's about
having these conversations, connecting in person, especially after the last
three four years where we've been so separated from each other.
And oddly enough, I was just on a podcast with
(45:24):
Jack and Deborah from it's called the Ethereous Society, and
it's in the UK. Well, it's all over the world,
but there's UK headquarters. And the guy who started it
was named George King, and in nineteen fifty four he
got the message that he was going to be channeling
some group of extraterrestrials he called it, who were basically
(45:49):
working in the afterlife for world peace. And they have
this huge society all around the world who and George
King worked with Einstein in real life. And July ninth,
July eighth and ninth is the biggest holiday of the
(46:12):
Theorious Society because of something that happened. So I'm on
this podcast, I'm on my way to England. They're in England.
There's a whole network of them all over the country.
So it's just like, step by step, the synchronicity is
falling in my lap and I'm following it and I just,
(46:32):
you know, I have to say, my dream is that
Einstein wins a Nobel Peace Prize posthumously. That would be
just the epitome of my life's work. But this is
what I mean. If I'm lucky, where's the wood to
knock on? My mom lived to be ninety five. My
dad lived to me ninety seven. I've got several couple
(46:57):
more decades ahead, so I'm.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
All in right awesome. So if I want to, we
need to find your find your books, sign up for
your workshops to see you. How do they how do
they find you?
Speaker 4 (47:18):
I've got two websites. One is Barbara with b A
R B A R A W I T H with
like the preposition Barbara with dot com and I've got
a reading sale going on right now too, And all
of my books and all the podcasts and everything else
(47:40):
is on Synergy Alliance dot l l C. And I'm
sure you can drop these in your info for your folks,
and you can sign up and get notices. I'm creating
events as I go. It's been very exciting that way.
They're there forming on their own, so you can keep
(48:02):
up to date with where I'm going and look at
all the books. It's really a fascinating story. I hope
people look into it right.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Absolutely. Oh, I'm writing all this down.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Hik oh.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Absolutely and just thrilled me and really excite me. So
so thank you very much. So, people who are listening,
I want you to follow Barbara and buy her books,
and maybe sign up for workshop and look for her
around the world because big things are coming her way
and ours as well, and our world is going to
(48:41):
be a better place because of people like you, Barbert.
So thank you very much, thank you. It's the Healing
Light podcast and I really appreciate you spending your time
with me.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Absolutely thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
All right, have a good night, thank you.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Bye. I
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