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Hi, I'm Caitlin Russell. Welcome to the Healing Like Podcast.
I am a psychic intuitive who's been reading tarot cards
for over twenty five years. I'm also MAHIE certified. Join
me as I read cards, share intuitive messages, promote healing,
and much much more.
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Hi everybody, and welcome to the Healing Light Podcast. I'm
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I recently put myself on Patreon, so if you want
to reach me there. I'm on TikTok, but I always
say that I'm not the best at TikTok, so good
luck with that, but I'm on there. So today's topic
for me is pretty unique one because it's a little
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bit tough to talk about. It's spirituality. It's been on
my mind lately. Spirituality, my spirituality. What that really means
for people? What is it? Is it the same as
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having being part of religion, an organized religion or a
belief system, or is it safe? There's just so many
things to think about. So I just did a quick
like Wikipedia search on spirituality see what the general definition
of it is, and it's the quality of being concerned
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with the human spirit or soul as opposed to material
or physical things. So that's pretty basic, and we'll talk
about what what doesn't really mean. We'll talk about being
concerned with the human spirit or soul. So I wanted
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to reach out to a couple of friends of mine
and I went to some people that I some Danish
people that I wanted to see about, you know, what
they thought about spirituality and how they define it. So
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from this is from my probably good friends Patty, she said,
for her, spirituality is alignment of spirits. It's our personal
construct from what we make our moral and ethical decisions
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and tent on bettering ourselves and humanity. I asked my
fiance Shelley, what does it mean to you, and she
said she feels that spirituality is when you are open
to everything, including spirit and God. And finally, my friend
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Susan c she said she sees it as peace, a
lift and serenity. It's an uplift. I just thought that
was very interesting. So a couple of people that I
really respect and admire. One of them is Neil Degrass Hyphen.
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He's a astro physicist and very very smart man and
written some books and he's just a genius. He's been
asked about spirituality and religion and all that. So he
wrote an essay called Holy War The Holy Wars. It
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was published in nineteen ninety nine. So he wrote, let
there be no doubt that as they are currently practiced,
there is no common ground between science and religion. On
their intersection, he added, I have yet to see a
successful prediction about the physical world that was inferred or
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extrapolated from the content of any religions documents. And then
in a September two thousand and eight essay he added
and he wrote this in the Humanists. He wrote, I think,
based on all the folks who are agnostics, historically I
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come closer to the behavior of an agnostics than the
behavior of an atheist. So he was talking pretty much
about religion, but I think that also goes with spirituality
as well. And so agnostic basically is someone who is
not a non believer, but they want evidence. And it
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kind of makes sense because he is a scientist. He's
a man of science, so I think he would want evidence.
So he's not saying that he's opposed to it, but
that he wants to see proof. And then an atheist
is there is no higher being, no God. You know,
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we were born or die and then we you know,
that's it. So that's coming from Neil the grass tysand
I found his thoughts on it on really on a
really interesting because he's been asked this a lot. Now.
One of the women that I admire is Mother Teresa,
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and she's now a saint by the way, which I
think is very cool. This is what her thoughts are.
One filled with joy, preaches without preaching. I do not
pray for success. I ask for faithfulness. I know I
am touching the living body of Christ. In the broken
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bodies of the hungry and the suffering. Each one of
them is Jesus in disguise. So I really like that too,
because it seems to me that for her it goes
more beyond her beliefs in her religious beliefs, but it's
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humanity and how we look at others and how we
treat each other in the world. She worked with very
poor people in Calcutta. She had no qualms about working
with people who are ill or are extremely poor in
poverty stricken areas. So for her, that was practicing her faith.
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And finally, I love Buddhism. I love Buddha. I have
a shrine to Buddha at home, and I have Buddha
on my altar, and FYI. Richard Gere is a Buddhist
and Tina Turner was a Buddhist. So there's actually people
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that we have heard about who are Buddhists. But Buddha wrote,
he who experiences the unity of life, he's his own
self in all beings, and all beings in his own self,
and looks on everything with an impartial eye. Just as
a candle cannot burn without fire, men cannot live without
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a spiritual life. Be a lamp unto yourself. So he's
saying that everyone needs to be spiritual in their life,
that you cannot. There is no being without living a
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spiritual life. And just as a thought too, this is
spirituality as opposed to religions. So when I think about spirituality,
I was just okay, when I think of spirituality, thought,
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what are some words that come to mind when I
think about spirituality? And I wrote down these items higher power,
spirit guides me, feature, God, Goddess, awakening, vibrations, energy, love,
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unconditional love. I found this other great quote, and I'm
going to butcher his name, so forgive me. I think
this is hitch not on. He said, enlightened, it's going
a wave realizes it's the ocean. A wave is the ocean.
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And I just think that that that's a great quote.
To live. To do good bye is that you realize
that we may not be alone in this world, that
we are surrounded by you know, the universe and others
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out there. And you know it's doing some thinking too,
because I have the healing life and in my healing
like practice I talk about, I read tarot cards, a
psychic medium, I work with crystals, I had crystal grids,
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a reiki practitioner, and I believe definitely in the healing
power of the universe and manifestation and all that. So
let me just give you a little bit of background
on my my history with spirituality and you know the
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path that I was on. So in my house with
my mother and my father, well, my my parents were
divorced when I was a baby, so my mother I
live with my mother until she remarried, and then my
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my father moved out and he remarried and I would
see my father, you know, every summer in Maine, and
you know we talk on my birthday and Christmas and
all that. So, but when I was I was primarily
raised by my mother at home. She was you know,
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primary custody parent when she was back then, I didn't
call it co parenting, but I guess he would be
the major, my major co parent all that now, and
we did not go to church on Sunday, she and
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I remember, but I remember being little and she would
go to services at the Unitarian Church. So the Unitarian
Church as a very open and welcoming, like kind of
like a congress creational church and very open to people.
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But I want to remember most if I was going
the daycare area, and I can remember playing with my
friends in the daycare area, But spirituality and religion wasn't
really talked about in my house. I mean, there's a
lot of things that weren't talked about back then, but
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religion and spirituality was not one of those topics. It's
just something that I never even really thought about what
it truly means to be spiritual and religious. As I
got a little bit older, one of my best friends
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in elementary school, when as a girl by the name
of re Becca Hope Becky as she was called now,
her family great family, kind of took me in, you know,
because we were best friends. And looking back on it now,
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they were I believe they were like what they called
born again Christians, maybe like what you might call like
evangelical Christians. Whatever you might call it today. And again
I was part of a church youth group and it
was called Becky and I were part of a church
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youth group called a WANNA which stands for all workmen
are not Ashamed. And so I remember going on day
trips with them and we would go to the to
their hall. I don't ever remember going to a service,
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but the kids would get together and we had these
badges and banners and dashes and all that, and uh,
we would I can still sing some songs some some
some Bible songs, you know, Jesus loves me and and
we would have so much fun. But again, to me,
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uh you know, it was I think I was just
understood that there was Jesus and God. But it wasn't
really like I couldn't really comprehend what that what that
really means. I just know I had I had fun
with Becky and we would, you know, have a blast together.
And unfortunately we separated. I don't know, Sometimes friendships happen,
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they fall by the wayside. You both get older, you
grow apart. You know. I went to a different school
and she went to a different school. But anyway, as
I get a little bit older, my high school. Sweetheart
is is a Roman Catholics. And what I remember about
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going to I would go to Mass with him, not
every Sunday, but you know, I would go to Mass
with him on Sundays and you learn all about you know,
what the Mass is all about. And that was the
first exposure I could have to like spirituality and religion.
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And for whatever reason, I can think why, but I
was just looking. I was kind of lost and looking
to fit in. So I even thought about converting to Catholicism.
It was before I was you know, out of the closet,
and you know, I just didn't know my own way.
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So that was my first exposure to spirituality and like
religion was was him being Catholic. But you know, I
kind of my father was more of the free, free thinker.
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He he he did like a salmon estic like a
shaman practice and he's the one who taught me about
tarot cards and you didn't talk about God or what
that means or anything like that. But he introduced me
more to like the spirit world and and and that
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sort of thing. And that's what I kind of leaned toward.
Its kind of you know, it clicked with me, making
sense because of the energy that comes when you read
tarot cards and what they're all about in the history
and how that all works. But I really as the
years progressed, you get in contact with more people, you
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you get exposed to more spiritual beliefs because everyone has
different religions that they belonged to. And to be honest,
I rejected. I rejected religion and spirituality for a long time.
I come from trauma, and I had bad trauma when
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I was younger, and also being gay. You know, you
hear and some people to this day, if you're gay,
You're going to hell. It's against God, it's against everybody.
So I rejected spirituality and God and religion. And I
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think I didn't know, really I didn't want to say
it was an atheist, but I didn't want to say
it was. I think I think I was leaning more
towards being agnostic because I was I was feeling like,
if there is truly a God out there, then how
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could he let this happen to me? And why is
there war in the world and pain and suffering? And
you know, I was taught to I want to add,
you know that there's a heaven and a hell and
if you do certain things, you go to Hell and
all that. And so I felt as like lost and
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I just didn't understand that whole. I really questioned where
that where my belief system was. And then my father
kind of turned me, turn me towards a possibility of
a belief in spirituality when he did bring out his
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tarot cards and he did teach me about Caro when
he talked about he could see like you should see my, my, my,
my aura, my. That's when you see a color around someone,
and he said mine was green, like in the middle
of my forehead. So then I started doing different research
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into it and what it really means. And so I
I came to feel that you can be spiritual, but
you don't have to be religious part of an organized religion,
if that makes sense, That you can believe things when
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it doesn't make you a bad person if you if
you don't believe in only certain things that if that
makes sense. So my spirituality has evolved, it really has.
When I met my fiance, it was the first time
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that I knew someone personally was Jewish. So she introduced
me to those traditions and the holidays all that. As
I did my research what I came to feel is
that to me, there's got to be more than just us.
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There has to be something bigger than us, you know,
there has to be to me, something out there not
controlling my life. And I've come to believe too that
sometimes bad things happen when we don't have any control
over them. I don't like when people say when people think,
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people say things like God has a plan or was
meant to be, or everything happens for a reason, because
really no, sometimes things happen randomly. Bad things happen randomly
to very good with people. It's just part of life.
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But that's that's a deep topic to get into. So
spirituality versus religion, I think there's a few few things
you can think about that you can think that you're
a spiritual person but not part of any organized religion.
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Some people, I would think have a religion that they follow,
like they're Catholic, their Baptists, their Methodists, there, whatever they are,
but they also have a spirituality about them. So I
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feel that I'm at a comfortable place with my spirituality,
but I'm always learning and I'm always growing. Oh and
then there's something called faith. So faith to me, when
someone says, I have faith in this. I have faith
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in God means that without evidence, you believe in something
that you know is true, or you know something's going
to happen, even though it's not right in front of you,
clear cut, clear cut, with with evidence. So in terms
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of my spirituality, I do believe, like I said, there
is a higher power. I don't necessarily call it, but
I can call it God. I don't believe that one
man is that there controlling the universe. I think it's
made up of several different entities. So I believe in
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the Goddess, I believe in spirit spirits, and I believe
in the universe. So to me, my spirituality is made
up of several components. I take some things from religions
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that I really that really resonate with me, and I
reject those that are to me are are are not,
are terrible and they should have no place in spirituality.
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You know, things like you're going to burn in hell
and purgatory and all that. I just don't believe in
the I believe that there is a place like heaven
or people cross over. When you're a psychomedium, you know,
you learn to get in touch with those aspects because
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you're you're talking to those who passed, and to me,
it's all about receiving and giving giving energy. Now, my
my Rachkey practice is not religious at all. It's more
holistic spiritual approach. But there is no religious component, which
I love, so I could sue Raking on anyone. So
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when I practice or use my spirituality, it includes things
like waking up and being thankful to the universe for
providing me with abundance. I have an altar where I
have different components on the altar. I have three three
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shrines because my friend of mine, Karen, told me about
how he has shrines. And shrines are when you honor
a specific God or goddess or religious figure and spirit
guides and ancestors and all that. And Mary Mary and
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I talked about spirit guides. I had her on my
podcast and and we are really great discussion about spirit
guides and what they are and how you can be
in contact with them. So she told me that one
of my spirit guides is Mother Mary. Now, Mother Mary
is traditionally seen in the Catholic religion, and you would
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think that she would have no place in my life,
but I I read up on her, and she's what
we call an ascended ascended master. Buddha is ascended master,
our change, Old Michael is a ascended master, and gabriels.
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These are people who have risen above and taken forms
of like spiritual spiritual beings beings. So I said, okay,
so she's one of my spirit guys. Good. So I
have a little shrine to her, and she just she
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she makes sure that my my heart's taken care of
and that she just supports me and just shows me
unconditional love. One of my other spirits guides is a
goddess Athena. And Athena and Is she was a warrior
and she doesn't have really great side our history. I
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had to do more research. But if you know who
Medusa is the one with the snakes out of her head,
that was Athenis who did that because she thought that
Medusa was very vain and decided to teach her less
than So she's the one who said, well, now you're
going to have snakes on the top of your head,
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and when you look at people, that are going to
turn the stone. And so she kind of did her
kind of dirty. But but other than that, she's she's
a goddess of wisdom, and so her symbol is the owl.
So I have a little statue of Athena with an owl.
I love Buddha, I love Buddhists. I don't think it
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could ever become a Buddhist you full time. That takes
a lot of dississt to me, but Buddha Buddhism is huge.
I'm studying Buddhism as well. So I have a little
Buddha shrine. And then a couple other spirit guides who
I know who watch over me. Is my Granny Hunter
who appeared to me. I'll tell you how she appeared
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to me. It was just amazing, not hearing her human form,
but where she is now. And my father is also
one of my spirit guys, and they and they watch
over me and they guide me. So that's part of
my spirituality. It's just basically feeling like we are part
of something that goes way beyond us. It makes this
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part of something that's pretty great. You know, a lot
of people consider themselves when they're out in nature. That's
a very spiritual experience. Being with their animals is a
very spiritual experience. The going hiking or when they're jogging,
and you know they get their runners high. I mean,
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if you, if you if I tried to define it,
so hard for me to define it, but I had to.
I guess I could considered maybe something called multi faith,
which is I take different aspects from different religions and
incorporate them into into my into my life. Doesn't mean
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anyone is better than the others. And then there's something
called omnism, and that's where you accept other religions but
not believing in everything they teach, so you know, like
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Mother Mary, and but there's a lot of things about
Catholics and I just don't agree with. So if I
had a really pinpoint where my major focus is, I
would have to say that it's primarily Wicca, which is
which is a religion. It's also known as a craft.
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It's very much earth centered and the pentagram is the
main focal point. It is part of the pagan movement.
There's gods and goddesses. There's no official church, although I
think the Unitarian Church welcomes pagans and witches and Wiccans
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and all this. But there are ceremonies that are performed
and I celebrate these. We have the Witch's calendar, and
then I do buy look at the moon cycles. So
the ceremonies that I participate in go a center around
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the wheel of the year, which is in the working calendar,
like we're coming upon Halloween, which is also I always
say this wrong, Sam Wuen. I think it's s A
M h E I n a, but it's pronounced like
Sam quen. And uh so that's what I follow, and
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those are those are called sabots. And I also follow
the moon cycles. And I really believe for the full
moon you release what you don't want to what you
want to release from you, and the new moon you
bring things are things that you want to attract into
your life, and those are asbas So the Witch's calendar
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is based on changes. It's found like in the in
natures and seasons. And samone, like I said, Halloween is
is it's actually like the first part of the calendar,
even though it's in October. And this is where they
call that what they call the veil is gets very
thin with the connection between the living and the dead,
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it lowers, so you have more connections. So we all
kind of do our unique things how we practice, but
there is a community that that's out there, you know
when I So that's that's primarily what my belief system
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is and and what what I practice in order to
embrace something that's bigger than myself. For me, I just
can't see myself as an atheist where I believe that
we're just biological beings and we're born and then we die,
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there's diseases and that, you know, I just can't. I
can't do that agnostic. I don't even wouldn't even be
agnostic because in my in my life as a psycho
medium as Tara reader, there are things that I know
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that I can see I talk to spirit that I
just I can't explain how I know what I know
when when Spirit talks to me, it goes just beyond
what I can feel in touch and you know with
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my own senses. And I meditate as well, and I
can you know, I listen to my spirit guides when
I when I meditate, So that just shows me that
there is something that goes way beyond then what we
human can comprehend at the universe is death and deep
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and we can't even begin to fathom time at the
universe or anyway. What am I getting back to? I
think I'm getting off topic. So we're talking about spirituality,
so to me that that is my my spirituality, And
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they're just like I said, there's just some things that
I've seen and have have happened, Things I've dreamed that
have come true. I call those that might when I
have days everyone those are happening more and more talking
to different people, you know, it's just I could go
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on and on. So I'd be really interested to hear
feedback on what you believe when it comes to spirituality
and spirituality versus versus religion, versus faith. And when I
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was asking people what spirituality means to them, I was
pretty surprised that there was no no trend. Nobody said
the same thing. They all have different different things. They
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were all completely different to what people believed. We all
connect and when we go on on the same on
the same level, but everyone has a different idea about
what spirituality means to them. So I would love to
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hear what it means, what it means to you. It's
a tough topic because it's a very sensitive topic because
there's been a lot done in the name of religion
that some very some very bad stuff has happened with
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people who claim you're doing it on behalf of God
and behalf of Jesus. And you know that's why I am.
I told my friend once, I said, I have a
very complicated relationship with God because like I said that,
I said, you folks that when I am, you know,
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when I was growing up the way I grew up,
and you know I was angry for a long time.
Why Why did this happen to me? If there's a God,
how could it happen to me? How can I believe
in anything when this has happened? But now I've come
to realize that what happened, and what happens when when
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bad stuff happens, is that it's just so random and
there's no control of it, and nothing that you do
or or I do. It's just the way the way
life is. And I feel that a lot of the
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as awful as this this is gonna sound, I wouldn't wish.
People say if I had to live my life all
over again, I would I would do it. No, I wouldn't.
I would eliminate a huge part of my fly trauma
that would be gone. But I've actually become a more
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spiritual person because of it. I've become. I think I'm
more compassionate and I'm kinder. I treat people a lot better,
and I really appreciate, appreciate life. I've been way down,
way down down, with a little no money, feeling depressed
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and suicidal and all that. And then just when I
think that I could I could give up, I feel
like I get this uplift from the universe and from
the spirit, and I get provided for and I make it,
you know. And there are some days when I would
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have to live hour by hour trying to get through
the pain day by day, week by week, and you know,
you just you just start to stuff like that happens
to you. You just start to question, question everything. But
I do believe that my spirituality is evolving. I'm still learning,
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Like I'd love to learn more about the Bible, the
Torah and the Qur'an, like what those what those books mean.
I mean, I'm always looking for knowledge and studying and
about different religions and spirituality. And I just know that
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it should be an ever evolving process for people. I
think if you become too rigid, you really open you
don't open yourself up to just seeing more of the
beauty in life. As it were. So anyway, that's that's
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what I'm thinking. I'm trying to think what else I
want to say. Gosh, I've and talking now for a while,
and I am I want to say that on an
ending note that I respect I respect people's religious beliefs,
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I respect people's spirituality, and I would just say that
if you can be kind and compassionate in this world,
then then you are a spiritual person. So all right,
those are my thoughts. I welcome your feedback again. You
can email me at the the Healing Light one at
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Healing Light Instagram, you can message me this I look
forward to hearing from you. So thank you everyone. Have
a great day and thank you from Kitlin and the
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hi, I'm Caitlin Russell. Welcome to the Healing Like Podcast.
I am a psychic intuitive who's been reading tarot cards
for over twenty five years. I'm also MAHIE certified. Join
me as I read cards, share intuitive messages, promote healing,
and much much more.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Hi everybody, and welcome to the Healing Light Podcast. I'm
your host Keith and Mussel. I want to thank you
all for listening in, and I want to thank Paranormal
bus Radio for sponsoring the podcast. I just wanted to
remind you that I'm always looking for show ideas, guest ideas.
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A few ways you can reach me. You can shoot
me in the email at the The Healing Light one
that's The Healing Light Number one at gmail dot com.
I do have a Facebook page, The Healing Light NH.
I'm on Instagram The Healing Light NH. I have a
blog on Pinterest, The Healing Light. I have a YouTube channel.
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I recently put myself on Patreon, so if you want
to reach me there. I'm on TikTok, but I always
say that I'm not the best at TikTok, so good
luck with that, but I'm on there. So today's topic
for me is pretty unique one because it's a little
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bit tough to talk about. It's spirituality. It's been on
my mind lately. Spirituality, my spirituality. What that really means
for people? What is it? Is it the same as
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having being part of religion, an organized religion or a
belief system, or is it safe? There's just so many
things to think about. So I just did a quick
like Wikipedia search on spirituality see what the general definition
of it is, and it's the quality of being concerned
(02:58):
with the human spirit or soul as opposed to material
or physical things. So that's pretty basic, and we'll talk
about what what doesn't really mean. We'll talk about being
concerned with the human spirit or soul. So I wanted
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to reach out to a couple of friends of mine
and I went to some people that I some Danish
people that I wanted to see about, you know, what
they thought about spirituality and how they define it. So
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from this is from my probably good friends Patty, she said,
for her, spirituality is alignment of spirits. It's our personal
construct from what we make our moral and ethical decisions
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and tent on bettering ourselves and humanity. I asked my
fiance Shelley, what does it mean to you, and she
said she feels that spirituality is when you are open
to everything, including spirit and God. And finally, my friend
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Susan c she said she sees it as peace, a
lift and serenity. It's an uplift. I just thought that
was very interesting. So a couple of people that I
really respect and admire. One of them is Neil Degrass Hyphen.
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He's a astro physicist and very very smart man and
written some books and he's just a genius. He's been
asked about spirituality and religion and all that. So he
wrote an essay called Holy War The Holy Wars. It
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was published in nineteen ninety nine. So he wrote, let
there be no doubt that as they are currently practiced,
there is no common ground between science and religion. On
their intersection, he added, I have yet to see a
successful prediction about the physical world that was inferred or
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extrapolated from the content of any religions documents. And then
in a September two thousand and eight essay he added
and he wrote this in the Humanists. He wrote, I think,
based on all the folks who are agnostics, historically I
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come closer to the behavior of an agnostics than the
behavior of an atheist. So he was talking pretty much
about religion, but I think that also goes with spirituality
as well. And so agnostic basically is someone who is
not a non believer, but they want evidence. And it
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kind of makes sense because he is a scientist. He's
a man of science, so I think he would want evidence.
So he's not saying that he's opposed to it, but
that he wants to see proof. And then an atheist
is there is no higher being, no God. You know,
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we were born or die and then we you know,
that's it. So that's coming from Neil the grass tysand
I found his thoughts on it on really on a
really interesting because he's been asked this a lot. Now.
One of the women that I admire is Mother Teresa,
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and she's now a saint by the way, which I
think is very cool. This is what her thoughts are.
One filled with joy, preaches without preaching. I do not
pray for success. I ask for faithfulness. I know I
am touching the living body of Christ. In the broken
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bodies of the hungry and the suffering. Each one of
them is Jesus in disguise. So I really like that too,
because it seems to me that for her it goes
more beyond her beliefs in her religious beliefs, but it's
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humanity and how we look at others and how we
treat each other in the world. She worked with very
poor people in Calcutta. She had no qualms about working
with people who are ill or are extremely poor in
poverty stricken areas. So for her, that was practicing her faith.
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And finally, I love Buddhism. I love Buddha. I have
a shrine to Buddha at home, and I have Buddha
on my altar, and FYI. Richard Gere is a Buddhist
and Tina Turner was a Buddhist. So there's actually people
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that we have heard about who are Buddhists. But Buddha wrote,
he who experiences the unity of life, he's his own
self in all beings, and all beings in his own self,
and looks on everything with an impartial eye. Just as
a candle cannot burn without fire, men cannot live without
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a spiritual life. Be a lamp unto yourself. So he's
saying that everyone needs to be spiritual in their life,
that you cannot. There is no being without living a
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spiritual life. And just as a thought too, this is
spirituality as opposed to religions. So when I think about spirituality,
I was just okay, when I think of spirituality, thought,
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what are some words that come to mind when I
think about spirituality? And I wrote down these items higher power,
spirit guides me, feature, God, Goddess, awakening, vibrations, energy, love,
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unconditional love. I found this other great quote, and I'm
going to butcher his name, so forgive me. I think
this is hitch not on. He said, enlightened, it's going
a wave realizes it's the ocean. A wave is the ocean.
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And I just think that that that's a great quote.
To live. To do good bye is that you realize
that we may not be alone in this world, that
we are surrounded by you know, the universe and others
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out there. And you know it's doing some thinking too,
because I have the healing life and in my healing
like practice I talk about, I read tarot cards, a
psychic medium, I work with crystals, I had crystal grids,
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a reiki practitioner, and I believe definitely in the healing
power of the universe and manifestation and all that. So
let me just give you a little bit of background
on my my history with spirituality and you know the
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path that I was on. So in my house with
my mother and my father, well, my my parents were
divorced when I was a baby, so my mother I
live with my mother until she remarried, and then my
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my father moved out and he remarried and I would
see my father, you know, every summer in Maine, and
you know we talk on my birthday and Christmas and
all that. So, but when I was I was primarily
raised by my mother at home. She was you know,
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primary custody parent when she was back then, I didn't
call it co parenting, but I guess he would be
the major, my major co parent all that now, and
we did not go to church on Sunday, she and
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I remember, but I remember being little and she would
go to services at the Unitarian Church. So the Unitarian
Church as a very open and welcoming, like kind of
like a congress creational church and very open to people.
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But I want to remember most if I was going
the daycare area, and I can remember playing with my
friends in the daycare area, But spirituality and religion wasn't
really talked about in my house. I mean, there's a
lot of things that weren't talked about back then, but
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religion and spirituality was not one of those topics. It's
just something that I never even really thought about what
it truly means to be spiritual and religious. As I
got a little bit older, one of my best friends
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in elementary school, when as a girl by the name
of re Becca Hope Becky as she was called now,
her family great family, kind of took me in, you know,
because we were best friends. And looking back on it now,
(14:10):
they were I believe they were like what they called
born again Christians, maybe like what you might call like
evangelical Christians. Whatever you might call it today. And again
I was part of a church youth group and it
was called Becky and I were part of a church
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youth group called a WANNA which stands for all workmen
are not Ashamed. And so I remember going on day
trips with them and we would go to the to
their hall. I don't ever remember going to a service,
(14:53):
but the kids would get together and we had these
badges and banners and dashes and all that, and uh,
we would I can still sing some songs some some
some Bible songs, you know, Jesus loves me and and
we would have so much fun. But again, to me,
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uh you know, it was I think I was just
understood that there was Jesus and God. But it wasn't
really like I couldn't really comprehend what that what that
really means. I just know I had I had fun
with Becky and we would, you know, have a blast together.
And unfortunately we separated. I don't know, Sometimes friendships happen,
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they fall by the wayside. You both get older, you
grow apart. You know. I went to a different school
and she went to a different school. But anyway, as
I get a little bit older, my high school. Sweetheart
is is a Roman Catholics. And what I remember about
(16:04):
going to I would go to Mass with him, not
every Sunday, but you know, I would go to Mass
with him on Sundays and you learn all about you know,
what the Mass is all about. And that was the
first exposure I could have to like spirituality and religion.
(16:25):
And for whatever reason, I can think why, but I
was just looking. I was kind of lost and looking
to fit in. So I even thought about converting to Catholicism.
It was before I was you know, out of the closet,
and you know, I just didn't know my own way.
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So that was my first exposure to spirituality and like
religion was was him being Catholic. But you know, I
kind of my father was more of the free, free thinker.
(17:15):
He he he did like a salmon estic like a
shaman practice and he's the one who taught me about
tarot cards and you didn't talk about God or what
that means or anything like that. But he introduced me
more to like the spirit world and and and that
(17:36):
sort of thing. And that's what I kind of leaned toward.
Its kind of you know, it clicked with me, making
sense because of the energy that comes when you read
tarot cards and what they're all about in the history
and how that all works. But I really as the
years progressed, you get in contact with more people, you
(18:05):
you get exposed to more spiritual beliefs because everyone has
different religions that they belonged to. And to be honest,
I rejected. I rejected religion and spirituality for a long time.
I come from trauma, and I had bad trauma when
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I was younger, and also being gay. You know, you
hear and some people to this day, if you're gay,
You're going to hell. It's against God, it's against everybody.
So I rejected spirituality and God and religion. And I
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think I didn't know, really I didn't want to say
it was an atheist, but I didn't want to say
it was. I think I think I was leaning more
towards being agnostic because I was I was feeling like,
if there is truly a God out there, then how
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could he let this happen to me? And why is
there war in the world and pain and suffering? And
you know, I was taught to I want to add,
you know that there's a heaven and a hell and
if you do certain things, you go to Hell and
all that. And so I felt as like lost and
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I just didn't understand that whole. I really questioned where
that where my belief system was. And then my father
kind of turned me, turn me towards a possibility of
a belief in spirituality when he did bring out his
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tarot cards and he did teach me about Caro when
he talked about he could see like you should see my, my, my,
my aura, my. That's when you see a color around someone,
and he said mine was green, like in the middle
of my forehead. So then I started doing different research
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into it and what it really means. And so I
I came to feel that you can be spiritual, but
you don't have to be religious part of an organized religion,
if that makes sense, That you can believe things when
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it doesn't make you a bad person if you if
you don't believe in only certain things that if that
makes sense. So my spirituality has evolved, it really has.
When I met my fiance, it was the first time
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that I knew someone personally was Jewish. So she introduced
me to those traditions and the holidays all that. As
I did my research what I came to feel is
that to me, there's got to be more than just us.
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There has to be something bigger than us, you know,
there has to be to me, something out there not
controlling my life. And I've come to believe too that
sometimes bad things happen when we don't have any control
over them. I don't like when people say when people think,
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people say things like God has a plan or was
meant to be, or everything happens for a reason, because
really no, sometimes things happen randomly. Bad things happen randomly
to very good with people. It's just part of life.
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But that's that's a deep topic to get into. So
spirituality versus religion, I think there's a few few things
you can think about that you can think that you're
a spiritual person but not part of any organized religion.
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Some people, I would think have a religion that they follow,
like they're Catholic, their Baptists, their Methodists, there, whatever they are,
but they also have a spirituality about them. So I
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feel that I'm at a comfortable place with my spirituality,
but I'm always learning and I'm always growing. Oh and
then there's something called faith. So faith to me, when
someone says, I have faith in this. I have faith
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in God means that without evidence, you believe in something
that you know is true, or you know something's going
to happen, even though it's not right in front of you,
clear cut, clear cut, with with evidence. So in terms
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of my spirituality, I do believe, like I said, there
is a higher power. I don't necessarily call it, but
I can call it God. I don't believe that one
man is that there controlling the universe. I think it's
made up of several different entities. So I believe in
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the Goddess, I believe in spirit spirits, and I believe
in the universe. So to me, my spirituality is made
up of several components. I take some things from religions
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that I really that really resonate with me, and I
reject those that are to me are are are not,
are terrible and they should have no place in spirituality.
(25:02):
You know, things like you're going to burn in hell
and purgatory and all that. I just don't believe in
the I believe that there is a place like heaven
or people cross over. When you're a psychomedium, you know,
you learn to get in touch with those aspects because
(25:24):
you're you're talking to those who passed, and to me,
it's all about receiving and giving giving energy. Now, my
my Rachkey practice is not religious at all. It's more
holistic spiritual approach. But there is no religious component, which
I love, so I could sue Raking on anyone. So
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when I practice or use my spirituality, it includes things
like waking up and being thankful to the universe for
providing me with abundance. I have an altar where I
have different components on the altar. I have three three
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shrines because my friend of mine, Karen, told me about
how he has shrines. And shrines are when you honor
a specific God or goddess or religious figure and spirit
guides and ancestors and all that. And Mary Mary and
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I talked about spirit guides. I had her on my
podcast and and we are really great discussion about spirit
guides and what they are and how you can be
in contact with them. So she told me that one
of my spirit guides is Mother Mary. Now, Mother Mary
is traditionally seen in the Catholic religion, and you would
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think that she would have no place in my life,
but I I read up on her, and she's what
we call an ascended ascended master. Buddha is ascended master,
our change, Old Michael is a ascended master, and gabriels.
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These are people who have risen above and taken forms
of like spiritual spiritual beings beings. So I said, okay,
so she's one of my spirit guys. Good. So I
have a little shrine to her, and she just she
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she makes sure that my my heart's taken care of
and that she just supports me and just shows me
unconditional love. One of my other spirits guides is a
goddess Athena. And Athena and Is she was a warrior
and she doesn't have really great side our history. I
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had to do more research. But if you know who
Medusa is the one with the snakes out of her head,
that was Athenis who did that because she thought that
Medusa was very vain and decided to teach her less
than So she's the one who said, well, now you're
going to have snakes on the top of your head,
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and when you look at people, that are going to
turn the stone. And so she kind of did her
kind of dirty. But but other than that, she's she's
a goddess of wisdom, and so her symbol is the owl.
So I have a little statue of Athena with an owl.
I love Buddha, I love Buddhists. I don't think it
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could ever become a Buddhist you full time. That takes
a lot of dississt to me, but Buddha Buddhism is huge.
I'm studying Buddhism as well. So I have a little
Buddha shrine. And then a couple other spirit guides who
I know who watch over me. Is my Granny Hunter
who appeared to me. I'll tell you how she appeared
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to me. It was just amazing, not hearing her human form,
but where she is now. And my father is also
one of my spirit guys, and they and they watch
over me and they guide me. So that's part of
my spirituality. It's just basically feeling like we are part
of something that goes way beyond us. It makes this
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part of something that's pretty great. You know, a lot
of people consider themselves when they're out in nature. That's
a very spiritual experience. Being with their animals is a
very spiritual experience. The going hiking or when they're jogging,
and you know they get their runners high. I mean,
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if you, if you if I tried to define it,
so hard for me to define it, but I had to.
I guess I could considered maybe something called multi faith,
which is I take different aspects from different religions and
incorporate them into into my into my life. Doesn't mean
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anyone is better than the others. And then there's something
called omnism, and that's where you accept other religions but
not believing in everything they teach, so you know, like
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Mother Mary, and but there's a lot of things about
Catholics and I just don't agree with. So if I
had a really pinpoint where my major focus is, I
would have to say that it's primarily Wicca, which is
which is a religion. It's also known as a craft.
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It's very much earth centered and the pentagram is the
main focal point. It is part of the pagan movement.
There's gods and goddesses. There's no official church, although I
think the Unitarian Church welcomes pagans and witches and Wiccans
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and all this. But there are ceremonies that are performed
and I celebrate these. We have the Witch's calendar, and
then I do buy look at the moon cycles. So
the ceremonies that I participate in go a center around
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the wheel of the year, which is in the working calendar,
like we're coming upon Halloween, which is also I always
say this wrong, Sam Wuen. I think it's s A
M h E I n a, but it's pronounced like
Sam quen. And uh so that's what I follow, and
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those are those are called sabots. And I also follow
the moon cycles. And I really believe for the full
moon you release what you don't want to what you
want to release from you, and the new moon you
bring things are things that you want to attract into
your life, and those are asbas So the Witch's calendar
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is based on changes. It's found like in the in
natures and seasons. And samone, like I said, Halloween is
is it's actually like the first part of the calendar,
even though it's in October. And this is where they
call that what they call the veil is gets very
thin with the connection between the living and the dead,
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it lowers, so you have more connections. So we all
kind of do our unique things how we practice, but
there is a community that that's out there, you know
when I So that's that's primarily what my belief system
(33:33):
is and and what what I practice in order to
embrace something that's bigger than myself. For me, I just
can't see myself as an atheist where I believe that
we're just biological beings and we're born and then we die,
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there's diseases and that, you know, I just can't. I
can't do that agnostic. I don't even wouldn't even be
agnostic because in my in my life as a psycho
medium as Tara reader, there are things that I know
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that I can see I talk to spirit that I
just I can't explain how I know what I know
when when Spirit talks to me, it goes just beyond
what I can feel in touch and you know with
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my own senses. And I meditate as well, and I
can you know, I listen to my spirit guides when
I when I meditate, So that just shows me that
there is something that goes way beyond then what we
human can comprehend at the universe is death and deep
(35:03):
and we can't even begin to fathom time at the
universe or anyway. What am I getting back to? I
think I'm getting off topic. So we're talking about spirituality,
so to me that that is my my spirituality, And
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they're just like I said, there's just some things that
I've seen and have have happened, Things I've dreamed that
have come true. I call those that might when I
have days everyone those are happening more and more talking
to different people, you know, it's just I could go
(35:47):
on and on. So I'd be really interested to hear
feedback on what you believe when it comes to spirituality
and spirituality versus versus religion, versus faith. And when I
(36:08):
was asking people what spirituality means to them, I was
pretty surprised that there was no no trend. Nobody said
the same thing. They all have different different things. They
(36:29):
were all completely different to what people believed. We all
connect and when we go on on the same on
the same level, but everyone has a different idea about
what spirituality means to them. So I would love to
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hear what it means, what it means to you. It's
a tough topic because it's a very sensitive topic because
there's been a lot done in the name of religion
that some very some very bad stuff has happened with
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people who claim you're doing it on behalf of God
and behalf of Jesus. And you know that's why I am.
I told my friend once, I said, I have a
very complicated relationship with God because like I said that,
I said, you folks that when I am, you know,
(37:37):
when I was growing up the way I grew up,
and you know I was angry for a long time.
Why Why did this happen to me? If there's a God,
how could it happen to me? How can I believe
in anything when this has happened? But now I've come
to realize that what happened, and what happens when when
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bad stuff happens, is that it's just so random and
there's no control of it, and nothing that you do
or or I do. It's just the way the way
life is. And I feel that a lot of the
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as awful as this this is gonna sound, I wouldn't wish.
People say if I had to live my life all
over again, I would I would do it. No, I wouldn't.
I would eliminate a huge part of my fly trauma
that would be gone. But I've actually become a more
(38:51):
spiritual person because of it. I've become. I think I'm
more compassionate and I'm kinder. I treat people a lot better,
and I really appreciate, appreciate life. I've been way down,
way down down, with a little no money, feeling depressed
(39:15):
and suicidal and all that. And then just when I
think that I could I could give up, I feel
like I get this uplift from the universe and from
the spirit, and I get provided for and I make it,
you know. And there are some days when I would
(39:38):
have to live hour by hour trying to get through
the pain day by day, week by week, and you know,
you just you just start to stuff like that happens
to you. You just start to question, question everything. But
I do believe that my spirituality is evolving. I'm still learning,
(40:03):
Like I'd love to learn more about the Bible, the
Torah and the Qur'an, like what those what those books mean.
I mean, I'm always looking for knowledge and studying and
about different religions and spirituality. And I just know that
(40:27):
it should be an ever evolving process for people. I
think if you become too rigid, you really open you
don't open yourself up to just seeing more of the
beauty in life. As it were. So anyway, that's that's
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what I'm thinking. I'm trying to think what else I
want to say. Gosh, I've and talking now for a while,
and I am I want to say that on an
ending note that I respect I respect people's religious beliefs,
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I respect people's spirituality, and I would just say that
if you can be kind and compassionate in this world,
then then you are a spiritual person. So all right,
those are my thoughts. I welcome your feedback again. You
can email me at the the Healing Light one at
(41:44):
gmail dot com, reach out to me on Facebook, to
Healing Light Instagram, you can message me this I look
forward to hearing from you. So thank you everyone. Have
a great day and thank you from Kitlin and the
Healing l Like podcast. Take care bybye,
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