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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello, and welcome to the history of the show for
anyone who flunked history but still wants to impress at
Trivia Night. Each day we take one topic, an object,
a place, a job, a trend and uncover the weird, messy,
and sometimes ridiculous truth behind it. No homework, just history
you'll actually want to tell people about. Ready, let's get
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into it. The history of chimney sweeps. You probably don't
think much about chimneys. Most people don't. They just sit
there on rooftops like brick hats, occasionally puffing out smoke
or playing home to a bored pigeon. But for centuries
the chimney wasn't just background architecture. It was a lifesaver,
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a house burner, a soot volcano, and surprise, a child
sized death tunnel. Welcome to the history of chimneys and
the time any humans we used to send up inside them.
Long before chimney stacks became the sad little detail in
real estate photos, people dealt with fire in the most
straightforward way imaginable. You wanted to cook your food or
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stay warm, You lit a fire in the middle of
the floor. The smoke just did its thing, drifting up
and out through holes in the ceiling or cracks in
the walls. Did the room fill with smoke? Of course,
did everyone cough and smell like barbecue? Absolutely, But no
one had invented a better system. Yet the Romans gave
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it a try, because of course they did. Wealthy Roman
homes featured clever flues and hidden channels that carried smoke
away from the hearth. It was like primitive duct work,
except it only existed in fancy villas and cost more
than most people earned in a lifetime. Everyone else just
inhaled their dinner along with the smoke. Then the Roman
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Empire did that thing where it collapses, and most of
Europe went back to the fire pit in the room
lifestyle for a few hundred years. But finally, sometime around
the twelfth or thirteenth century, someone had the bright idea
to build a vertical shaft directly above the fire. Instead
of letting smoke wander around the ceiling hoping it found
the door, they gave it an express route out of
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the building. This was the chimney, and it changed everything. Now,
instead of coughing through every meal like you lived in
a bonfire, you could have a fire in one room
and still breathe. You could build multi story houses with
fireplaces on every floor, each one connected to its own
neat little flu smoke went up, heat stayed in, and
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suddenly medieval Europe felt like it had figured something out.
But like all good things, this came with strings attached
and soot, lots and lots of soot. When you burn
wood or coal, you don't just get cozy heat. You
also get sticky black residue clinging to the inside of
your chimney like it's trying to redecorate. That residue, also
known as creosote, is highly flammable. Leave it to long
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and congratulations, your chimney is now a rocket booster made
of fire. Chimney fires weren't rare. They were loud, fast,
and terrifying. Flames could shoot up the flu and catch
the roof on fire, especially if it was made of wood,
which most of them were. In cities, it only took
one flaming chimney to light up the neighborhood like a
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box of matches, so it didn't take long for someone
to realize that if you wanted to enjoy the luxury
of not asphyxiating, you'd need to clean that chimney regularly, carefully,
and probably not from the top down unless you had
very long arms enter the chimney sweep. Now, let's pause
for a second. Today, when you hear the phrase chimney sweep,
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you probably picture someone cheerful in a top hat, maybe
even singing and dancing on a rooftop with a magic
nanny nearby. This is not that. The original chimney sweeps
were less Broadway musical and more dirty man with a
brush and a thousand yard stare. In the early days,
sweeping a chimney was a job for grown men. They'd
climb onto roofs, lower brushes or heavy sacks tied to ropes,
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down into the chimney and knock the soot loose. If
they were feeling ambitious, they might climb part way inside
and scrape it by hand. It was messy, exhausting, and
deeply unpleasant, but at least it was possible until chimneys
got sneaky. As urban areas grew in the sixteen hundreds
and seventeen hundreds, buildings were stacked closer together. People wanted
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more fireplaces per house, but they didn't want one hundred
giant vertical chimneys cluttering up the skyline, so architects got creative.
Chimneys now snaked through walls, made sharp bends, combined flues
from different rooms, and generally behaved like haunted mazes. They
were narrower, twistier, and harder to clean. Suddenly, no adult
could fit inside and long brushes couldn't reach all the bends.
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So what did chimney sweeps do. They found smaller employees. Yes,
this is the part where we introduced the climbing boy,
and no, that is no a charming nickname. It was
the job title. A climbing boy was usually somewhere between
five and ten years old. Why so young, because that's
the age when you're still bendy, easily bribed with stale bread,
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and small enough to fit inside a chimney that's maybe
nine inches across nine inches. That's narrower than a pizza box.
These kids were sent up the flu with a scraper
and sometimes a brush. Their job was to shimmy upward,
knock the soot loose on the way, and hopefully make
it to the top without getting stuck, falling, or suffocating.
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Once they reached daylight, they either came back down or
were hoisted out with a rope like chimney loot. The
system worked great for everyone except the child. These weren't
well fed, well paid interns. They were usually orphans, homeless kids,
or children sold into the trade by parents who had
run out of options. Once apprenticed to a master sweep,
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the child worked for food and shelter, which often meant
a blanket in a basement and two meals of whatever
was left over from the adult's plate. You might think,
surely there were tools that could do this instead of
sending actual children into blackened vertical death tubes. And yes, eventually,
but at the time the logic was simple. If the
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boy fits, send him in. You want a clean chimney,
hire a six year old with a low sense of
danger and high soot tolerance. To be fair, not everyone
was thrilled about this. There were murmurs the occasional complaint,
but the city needed chimneys, chimneys needed cleaning, and climbing
boys were cheap, so up they went. In most cities.
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It became common to see soot covered children walking the
streets before dawn, following their master like little shadows. People
mostly ignored them. They were part of the scenery. Like
street vendors or sewer smells. No one thought too hard
about what was happening above their ceilings and the sweeps.
They were a mix. Some masters treated their boys with
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basic decency. Others beat them for getting stuck, for coffee
too loud, or for not being fast enough. It was legal,
it was common. It was horrifying. But we're not diving
into the worst of it just yet. This is still
the setup. By the eighteenth century, chimney sweeping was a
full blown trade, especially in cities like London and Edinburgh.
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A house without a clean chimney was a house waiting
to burn down. So there was always work, and the
more houses a master sweep could service in a day,
the better his chances of earning a living. Climbing boys
made that possible. It was cheap labor jammed into the
infrastructure of daily life. The funny part, if there is one,
is that the profession started to develop a weird kind
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of pride. Chimney sweeps saw themselves as essential. They were
in a way no one else wanted to do what
they did, and they kept the city running one fire
hazard at a time. Of course, none of this could
last sooner or later someone was going to ask, hey,
should we really be stuffing toddlers into burning walls for
a couple shillings, But that question would take a while
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to reach the right ears. So here we are. Chimneys
are finally doing their job, fires are lit, cities are growing,
and in the shadows tiny figures climb brick tunnels covered
in soot, holding onto scrapers and hoping they don't get
stuck before lunch. They weren't heroes, they weren't villains. They
were just kids doing one of the weirdest job's history
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ever cooked up. By now we've got chimneys in place,
smoke headed in the right direction, and a fresh new
trade in chimney sweeping. But while chapter one gave us
soot and awkward chimney architecture, chapter two gives us what
history does best, an appalling mess hiding in plain sight.
It's one thing to send grown adults up on rooftops
with a brush and some rope, but it's quite another
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to send children into nine inch wide shafts full of
sharp mortar, old nails and layers of flammable tar. Unfortunately,
in eighteenth and nineteenth century cities across Europe, especially in Britain.
That's exactly what was happening, just occasionally it was routine.
The job description for a climbing boy or girl, though
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boys were more commonly used, was brutally simple. Wake up
before sunrise, follow your master through the city streets. Arrive
at a home. Strip down to a shirt, sometimes not
even that. Crawl into a dark chimney barely whiter than
your shoulders. Scrape soot loose as you climb. Try not
to fall, try not to get stuck, try not to suffocate.
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Come back down. Repeat. It's easy, from a modern perspective
to wonder how anyone let this go on, But back
then the logic felt obvious to those in charge. You
needed chimneys cleaned. The chimneys were too small for adults.
The job was simple, required no tools beyond a scraper,
and could be done quickly by small children who didn't
have better options. Case closed. Never mind the bruises, the burns,
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the slow burned lung damage, or the very real possibility
of getting stuck and dying in the wall of someone's parlor.
Some boys were beaten to encourage them to climb faster.
Others were tol to light small fires beneath themselves to
motivate their upward progress. It had a name, climbing high.
It also had consequences, permanent disfigurement, broken bones, and, in
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the worst cases death. They didn't just work in pears
or groups either. A single climbing boy might clean ten
to fifteen chimneys in a day, crammed into the walls
of narrow townhouses, coughing soot from his lungs and carrying
the black dust home in every pore. It got in
their eyes, their mouths, their joints. They slept in basements
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or sheds, and their only real reward was that tomorrow
they got to do it again. Some children died young.
Others made it to adulthood with curved spines, ruined lungs,
and chronic respiratory issues. But even those who survived long
enough to grow up were sometimes marked by another consequence
of the trade, a disease that hadn't yet been named
the world's first recorded occupational cancer. In seventeen seventy five,
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a London surgeon named Perceval Pot published a paper detailing
a disturbing trend. He had observed cases of scrotal cancer
in young chimney sweeps, boys, usually in their teens, developing
painful tumors in the exact places where soot had been
grinding into their skin for years. Pot didn't mince words.
He directly linked the condition to long term exposure to
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soot and a lack of proper hygiene, particularly in children
who had grown up working in flues. This was revolutionary.
It was the first time a cancer had been publicly
identified as the result of a person's working conditions. Today
we take it for granted that jobs can make people sick,
but in the eighteenth century, the idea that a profession
could actually cause cancer was groundbreaking. Pot's findings should have
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shaken the industry to its core. They didn't. Not immediately.
There were murmurs, sure, a few concerned citizens, some editorial
hand ringing, but climbing boys were still small, still cheap,
and still necessary. The gears of progress moved slowly, and
the boys kept climbing. That's not to say no one cared.
Some people genuinely tried to make a difference. One such
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effort came through literature. In seventeen eighty nine, William Blake
published a poem called the chimney Sweeper as part of
his Songs of Innocence collection. It told the story of
a boy sold into the trade, trying to find hope
amid soot and sorrow. The poem is haunting and its
quiet despair helped humanize the climbing boys to a reading
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public who had mostly ignored them. Decades later, Charles Kingsley
wrote The Water Babies, a strange and dreamy Victorian children's
novel about a chimney sweep named Tom who dies and
becomes a magical underwater creature. That part may sound whimsical,
but the book's real purpose was to criticize the use
of child labor. It used fantasy as a way to
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smuggle uncomfortable truths into middle class parlors. These literary portraits
were powerful, but not enough. What the sweeps needed wasn't metaphor.
It was legislation. In eighteen, Parliament passed the Chimney Sweepers
and Chimney's Regulation Act. It made it illegal to employ
anyone under the age of twenty one as a chimney
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climbing apprentice. That sounds like a decisive move, It wasn't.
The law was a paper tiger. It had no enforcement mechanism,
no inspectors, no meaningful penalties, master sweeps ignored it, and
most homeowners didn't care enough to check. By this time,
some inventors had come up with alternatives. There were long,
flexible rods with brushes, and even a few mechanical contraptions,
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but they were more expensive than children, and old habits
are hard to break, so the climbing boys kept climbing.
It took a tragedy, a very specific, very public tragedy,
to finally push change forward. In eighteen seventy five, a
twelve year old boy named George Brewster was sent up
a flu at Fulbourn Hospital in Cambridge. The chimney was narrow,
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George got stuck and he died. This wasn't the first
child to die in a chimney, but this time something shifted.
The public response was sharp and immediate. Newspapers covered the
case in detail. The coroner's inquest revealed horrifying negligence. George's master,
William Weyer, was tried and convicted of manslaughter. His conviction,
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along with the public backlash, made it impossible for Parliament
to keep pretending that the problem didn't exist. That same year,
they passed a new Chimney Sweepers Act. This version had teeth.
It required all sweeps to be registered with the police,
It gave officers the right to inspect homes, and most importantly,
it made it illegal, actually illegal, with real consequences, to
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send children up chimneys. At last, the climbing boys were
given what no invention had been able to offer them,
the ability to stay on the ground. The trade didn't die,
of course, it simply changed. Adult sweeps adapted, using improved tools,
better access points, and safer equipment. Chimneys themselves also evolved, straightened, widened,
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and designed with cleaning in mind. But the human toll
left its mark. It was a turning point, not just
for chimney sweeping, but for the broader movement against child
labor in the United Kingdom. In a strange way, the
climbing boys helped lay the foundation for modern labor laws.
Their suffering became a case study in what happens when
children are treated as tools, when convenience is valued more
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than life, and when society turns away because the victims
are small, dirty, and easy to ignore. The image of
the chimney sweep shifted in the years that followed. No
longer just a symbol of grit and hard work, the
sweep also came to represent a darker legacy, one of
the first professions to show what exploitation looks like in
real terms and what it costs. Today, we talk about
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the Industrial Revolution with a kind of awe. Steam engines, factories, progress.
But progress had a price, and sometimes that price was
a boy like George Brewster, lost in the dark while
the rest of the world looked up at a clean
chimney and thought, well, that's tidy. In the next chapter,
we'll talk about how chimney sweeps continued into the modern era,
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how they became part of pop culture, and how the
soot streaked child of the eighteen hundreds somehow turned into
a lucky mascot and a singing rooftop dancer. But before
we move on, let's be clear the climbing boys weren't lucky.
They weren't symbols. They were children, and for a long
time they were sacrificed so that homes could stay warm,
roofs could stay unburnt, and society could stay comfortable. That's
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not just a footnote in history. It's the whole reason
this story matters. After centuries of soot suffocation and small
children being shoved into chimneys like human pipe cleaners. The
nineteenth century finally did something useful. It banned the whole
climbing boy system. Progress at last, and not the kind
of vague inspirational progress that people write speeches about. We're
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talking real, legal, written down enforced change. With the eighteen
seventy five Chimney Sweepers Act, Britain officially outlawed the use
of children in chimney work for real. This time, not
the wishy washy version from eighteen forty where everyone just
nodded and went right back to work. This one came
with consequences. Police could check houses, sweeps had to register
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if you tried to jam a twelve year old into
a chimney. After that, it wasn't just a bad idea,
it was a crime. So what happened next? Did everyone
suddenly start cleaning their own chimneys with feather dusters and
good intentions? Not exactly. Chimney sweeping didn't disappear. It evolved
like a soot covered Pokemon with kids out of the picture.
Adults took over the profession again, which meant the job
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needed to become well human sized chimneys were redesigned. New
homes favored straighter, wider flues that didn't twist like a
maze built by rats, and the tools improved. Brushes got longer,
rods got flexible. There were even spring loaded contraptions that
could spin inside the chimney like some kind of soot
blasting blender. Sweeps didn't just climb anymore. They poked, prodded, inspected,
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and vacuumed, and yes, that's vacuumed in the literal sense.
In the twentieth century, some sweep showed up with custom
built suction systems that could pull soot from deep inside
the flu without making a mess in the living room.
No more black clouds, no more kids stuck in the walls,
just good old fashioned adult elbow grease. This shift wasn't
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just practical, it was professional. In places like the United
Kingdom and the United States, chimney sweeping became a legitimate trade.
Training programs were created, certification bodies formed. You could join
a guild, get licensed, attend a chimney sweep convention. Yes
that's a real thing. Today's sweeps don't just knock soot loose.
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They inspect masonry, test airflow, diagnose creosote build up, install
chimney caps to keep out birds and rain and whatever
else nature feels like throwing in there. Some even use
cameras to examine the inside of flues. You might think
of it like a colonoscopy for your house, except with
less sedation and more bricks. And if that all sounds
a bit clinical, don't worry. The image of the chimney
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sweep didn't vanish into bureaucracy. It got a makeover. Let's
talk about Mary Poppins, because we were always going to
end up here. Released in nineteen sixty four, Mary Poppins
introduced the world to Bert, played by Dick van Dijck,
a character whose accent is famously bad but whose charm
is hard to argue with. Burt is a chimney sweep,
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but not the tragic, soot covered waf of centuries past.
He's cheerful, he dances on rooftops, he sings. He's best
friends with a magical nanny. He has impossibly clean teeth
for a man who spends his life covered in ash.
He's also the main reason half the world thinks chimney
sweeps are whimsical figures of good luck who just want
to twirl through London with a song in their heart
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and a brush in their hand. It's a lovely image,
and like most lovely images, it's complete fiction. Still it's stuck.
Bert did for chimney sweeps what the sound of music
did for Nanny's. He made the musical, and once something
becomes musical, it tends to become harmless in people's minds.
That's the power of pop culture. It can take centuries
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of struggle and scrub it clean until it shines. But
long before Disney got involved, chimney sweeps were already turning
into symbols. In several European countries, especially Germany and Austria,
it became traditional to associate chimney sweeps with good luck.
There are postcards, figurines, and even New Year's traditions where
people touch a sweep's button or shake their hand to
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ensure prosperity for the coming year. Why a sweep well,
probably because they kept your house from catching fire, which,
in pre electric heating days was pretty much the biggest
favor anyone could do for you. If your chimney was clean,
you had warmth, food, and a significantly lower chance of
waking up in a blaze. It's not exactly magic, but
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it's close enough. Over time, the sweep became a kind
of domestic guardian, a symbol of home safety, heart work,
and yes, luck. This folklore took root and never quite
went away. Even now, there are wedding traditions in some
parts of the UK where a chimney sweep is invited
to attend and kiss the bride for good fortune. It's
unclear whether the bride gets soot on her veil, but
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the gesture is what counts. So we've gone from orphan
children coughing their way through flues to smiling adults in
uniforms giving out lucky handshakes at weddings. That's a transformation,
but it also raises a question, why do we romanticize
jobs that used to be horrifying. Part of it is distance.
Once something is far enough in the past, the edges blur,
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the pain fades. We remember the silhouette, not the story,
the top hat, not the bruises. And it's easier, frankly,
to turn tragedy into folklore than it is to sit
with the reality of what people endured. Part of it, too,
is control. When we wrap the past. In nostalgia, we
get to pick the parts we like. We can say, oh,
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chimney sweeps, how quaint, instead of saying, oh, chimney sweeps,
how utterly devastating. It's like choosing to look at an
old photo of a city and ignoring the fact that
half the people in it were working twelve hour days
in dangerous jobs just to afford coal for the fire.
But maybe the most important reason is that we like
a tidy narrative. Chimney Sweeps started in smoke and misery,
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ended up as lucky tokens, and now operate as licensed
professionals with vacuum systems and thermal cameras. It's a clear arc,
a rise from darkness to light, and in a world
where stories often get cut off halfway through, that kind
of resolution feels good. Still, there's something to be said
for remembering the whole picture. The chimney Sweep wasn't just
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a cartoon character. It was a case study in labor rights,
one of the first examples where society had to stop
and admit out loud that maybe using children as soot
sponges was not a morally sound business model. The reforms
that came after laws about child labor, workplace safety, and trade.
Regulation didn't just help sweeps, they helped everyone. They shaped
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how we think about work, about responsibility, about who gets
protected and who gets left behind. And even today, those
questions haven't gone away. We still live in a world
where labor can be invisible, where the people doing the dirtiest,
most dangerous jobs are the easiest to overlook. They're not
in the history books yet, but they're there cleaning the ducks,
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hauling the trash, crawling through spaces no one else wants
to think about. So the next time you see a chimney,
or better yet, the next time you don't see one
because your building uses central heating, spare a thought for
the job that used to live inside that stack. Think
of the tiny hands that climbed it, the brushes, the coughing,
the soot, and also think of the people who said
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this can't go on and actually did something about it.
And if you ever do run into a chimney sweep
at a wedding, go ahead, shake their hand, make a wish,
but maybe also say thanks, not just for the luck,
but for the story they carry with them, a story
of fire, ash, change, and memory.