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Speaker 1 (00:06):
It's time to celebrate au fans. Indiana is six and
oh and it's just you rank them, we spank them.
It's it. It's a football it's a football model. Now
men's basketball is transferred. It over and for all the
people that were like we ranked teams, you went away
from home. Zip it? Illinois cooked, Oregon cooked? How high
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is the sky? What's the ceiling? Where can Indiana go
from here? Incredible, incredible scenes in Eugene, of course, on
a Saturday where game day was in Oregon, Indiana walked
in there and came out with a thirty to twenty one,
and frankly, they deserved every bit of it. There was
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not much of an element meant to fluke to what
Indiana did. They outgained Oregon, they outrushed Oregon, they outpassed Oregon,
they out coached Oregon, and I think the Ducks can
still win a national title. So yeah, Matt and I
are gonna dig into everything that happened in Indiana's thirty
to twenty win over Oregon on the road, in true
road fashion. What are the impacts, what are the consequences,
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what are the ramifications? Where do we go from here?
Can we start talking about banners in football. We're talking
about all that so much more here on episode three
point fifty three of The Hoosier Sound, where I am
your host Niffin Christian alongside my co host Matt Lukens. Matt,
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people were buzzing over on Indiana HQ all game yesterday.
Dimensions were off the charts even coming even rolling into
this morning. I you fans are in a state of
who's your ecstasy in heaven that we haven't seen? You know,
it's it was a great win over Illinois. It was
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a great win over Nebraska last year. Those are pretty epic.
But going on the road beating a top three team
in the country that looks every bit like a national
title contender with an elite head coach, an excellent quarterback,
and an amazing defense, and you walk in there and
you won by ten. What are your sort of initial
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comments observations from the best win in program history?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
If you ask me, no, I don't think it's If
you ask you, I think it's undeniably the best winning
program history. And I don't think you need to be
some sort of like IU Officionado. Just understand, like I mean,
the simple stat everybody brought up yesterday after IU won.
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Was IU was zero to forty six in top five
road games, right, and now was one in forty six
in top five road again. Yep, you know. Oh and
and that wasn't a fluke. You said that in the opening.
It wasn't a fluke. We beat them up and down
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the field, We were better on special teams. By what
where did that come from? Where did the fifty eight
yard field goal come from? Frankie baby Brandon. Frankie, by
the way, might even be MVP, because I think he
really that field goal is a turning point in that game,
because I really think the teams, I you, played better
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than Oregon in the first half, but didn't take advantage
of some of the drives that they had and left
a lot of points on the board, or left a
little a lot of opportunities, I should say, on the field.
And then to drive down the field with with with
so little time left and and kick not one but
two fifty eight yard field goals fantastic, hats off, Hats
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off to him and obviously gave the who's the lead
going into half right, And and then you know Oregon
was was trailing and and and trying to claw their
way back the rest of the game. But no, I mean,
Mendoza played fantastic. Even the one interception he had, it
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is his fault because why are you throwing off your
back foot, you know, from one hash to another, Like
that's just like that's that's QB play, you know, you
know that's rule number one. Like number one I QB
play is don't throw it late over the middle, yea.
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And rule number two is if you're throwing from one
hash to the other, don't throw off your back foot
step into it late, all right now, to be yeah, now,
to be fair to him, right, he did have pressure
in his face on that throom, So I'm gonna at
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least credit that a little bit with with with the pick.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
But and the corner that picked him up was an
excellent player, Brandon Finney. He's a fresh fresh There's a
sock down corner who I think came into this game
with the lowest passer rating allowed in the in the
entire sport, in in the FBS as a freshman for Oregon.
If you threw the ball at him, you were basically,
you know, terrible when trying to do that, And he
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proved it.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
This Oregon team is insane. But there there's so many freshmen.
There's so many freshmen playing, and they're all so good.
They're all outstanding. Uh hats off to them, and there
their recruiting stuff. But anyways, I digress. Indiana played one
hell of a game. I don't think Indiana played as
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well as they can't play. I don't think they've played
their A game. They played the game C plus like
as far as.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
What they're capable of doing, even on the road, I
I I think I think it made me start start,
you know, Mendoza because you know with the interception a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But everything you're talking about is on offense. The defensive
side of the ball played a damn near an eight
plus game.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, explosive play to Benson for the time.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
They only gave up thirteen points, yeah the whole game
because the seven was a was a pick sick. That's
that's not on them, right. The defense and played and
played an A plus game, right and and really held
this explosive Oregon offense. I mean they looked they made
Dante Moore. What I talked about previous, right was I
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think Dante more is extremely inexperienced. When you look up
and down the Big Ten. The one thing that Indian
I knew had going into this year was Mendoz has
played a ton of games, a ton of games. He's
seen so much film. Right, Oregon and Ohio State the
two favorites, prohibitive favorites for the Big Ten title. Both
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of them had pretty inexperienced quarterbacks at the helm, right
and Ohio State, Yeah, which is why I picked them
to win the Big Ten. And then well that's all.
We can talk about that later. But I you has
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the advantage because we have a rock star at QB
who's not going he can throw a pick six and
then lead a giant I don't even I don't know
how to say this without getting us d MC eight demonetized.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It was unbelievable. It's incredible to.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Putting his eat on the table.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Boy right there, you go, sure I.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Meet Yeah, no, but seriously, he just a big boy drive.
That's what That is what title winning conference winning national
championship contending teams do. Right when their back is against
the wall, they make a mistake, they get up, they
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get back on that horse, right, and they shove the
ball into the face of the opponent and just slowly,
methodically drive down the field and score after the after
the appressive of his drive as I have seen as
an IU fan, as impressive as a drive.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
After the Colin Dixon touchdown for Illinois in the first quarter.
You remember what Indiana did on the drive after that?
What was the result of that drive? Illinois score? Yep,
okay correct one for one?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
After I what picked off Mendoza in the fourth quarter
a couple of weeks ago. Do you remember what Indiana
did on the drive after that? Drove down the field
field go or touchdown?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Touchdown?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Touchdown? After Malik Benson scored a forty four yard touchdown
yesterday in the first half for Oregon, do you remember
what Indiana did on the drive after that?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Drove down the field and scored touchdown?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Roman Hemby right through Dylan Fieneman finished through contact across
the goal line.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Dylan, Dylan Tin and Tian still still can't stop losing? You,
You still can't stop losing to us.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You see in UH, Who's your the Bison in his
in his nightmares? And UH after the UH interception the
pick six yesterday by Brandon Finney, do you remember what
Indiana did on the drive that follow what I just talked.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
About drove down.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So it's four out of four, right, and and you know,
and again I kind of like how you how you
put it. It is really drives down the field. It's
not a one play explosive thing that Indiana does. But
it's Mendoza and the offense saying, hey, look all right,
we made a mistake or you know what, the defense
gave up a big play. Let's lock in. Let's be
even better, Let's elevate, you know, let's take it to
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the next level. Let's you know, let's throw let's throw
out one of the one or two of the mistakes
that we made on that on that big play that
we gave up. Whether it's you know, the defense adjusting.
We've seen the secondary adjust now, right, Illinois had the
big play touchdown Colin Dixon early secondary adjusted made Luke
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Altmeyer's life miserable. After the defense gave up the big
play touchdown to Malik Benson. Yesterday, the secondary adjusted made
Dante Moore's life miserable. And Luke Altmeyer and Dante Moore
are two of the best qbs in the league. If
if you you know, if you take men out of
the conversation and so it was truly epic to see
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Indiana do that for sixty minutes. It would start to finish.
There were some blips here and there. There's always gonna
be the way. It's always going to be the case, uh,
in a top three road environment. But I like what
you said about Mendoza, right like, Okay, So does he
make a mistake once a game in hostile road environments? Fine,
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maybe everyone does at least one, especially when you're playing
eighty thousand people at Kinnick or Atson or whatever. Mendez
was probably gonna make a mistake in a CFP game
when we fast forward a couple months from now. But
the reason we talked about in the offseason why Kurt
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Signetti and Mike Shanahan wanted number fifteen as their starting
quarterback was because you get you get that extra upside
that you did not you just don't get with pretty
much any other quarterback in college football. You get you
get a guy who can, who can, who can throw
a fifty yard rope down the sideline to to EJ. Williams,
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which is what Mendoza did against Iowa at Kinnick. You
get a guy who can, who can throw to all
parts of the field left right, sidelines, between the numbers,
between the hash marks, short, intermediate, deep. He can hit
all the areas of the football field. He can run.
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We've seen mobility. We saw a couple of big runs yesterday,
especially in the first half on the drive after the
Malik Benson touchdown, where Mendoza scrambled for ten, fifteen, sixteen
yards to get Indiana and first in goal territory before
him be powered through thenom in at the goal line.
This is the type of player Kurt Signetti targeted in
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the portal to bring over. Of course, they having the
brother on the team. You know, look, hey maybe Alberto,
maybe Alberto is taking snaps next year. We'll see how
that goes. But there was a reason, and that's the
beauty of Kurt Signetti's overall like mindset, his game plan. Everything,
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everything has a reason, Everything has a justification for it.
You go out and get Fernando Mendoza, Well, what's the
book on Ferana Mendoza. He kind of struggles when there's
a lot of people in his face, when he's under pressure, costly,
when guys are in his face. So let me not
abandon him. Let me go out and also get Roman Henby.
How great was Roman Henby yesterday? Incredible? Incredible as a runner,
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outstanding as a receiver, a major difference maker for Indiana yesterday.
Let's go out and get an offensive line in addition
to what we have returning from the twenty four season
that keeps Mendoza clean. How amazing if Carter Smith and
bray Lynch been this season outstanding? Smith is the best
left tackle in college football, arguably to this point in
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the season. You know, can you can? You have our
you know, debates about some other guys maybe, but yesterday
Carter Smith did not give up the pressure against the
ferocious passer rush, against the Orgon guys like Mataliuanola and
then outstanding defensive line that Oregon has, the blitz packages
that Dan Lannings defense throws at you. Carter Smith, perfect
game as far as pressure is allowed, zero out of
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thirty four. By the way, he did the same thing
against Iowa. How good is Iowa's defense? Pretty good, Carter Smith.
Zero pressure is allowed over the course of that game too.
So back to back road games for Carter Smith. He
hasn't given up a pressure, let alone a sack to
his QB one. But then you also go out and
get pack Coogan. I saw pregame speech that Pac Cougan
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gave yesterday. I almost ran through a wall at one am.
I mean this is a guy that is ready to go.
I mean Pac Cougan is ready to roll. Came over
with the big game experience from Notre Dame. You go
get a blocker and a half back, hvac tight end
like Riley Nowakowski made so much sense. It's just everything
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happens for a reason. With Kurt Signetti, everything has a
purpose when he goes out and attacks to portal. He's
at such an elite level right now as a college
football head coach. As you pointed out, Man, it's the
first top five road win in school history. It's the
first top five wins since nineteen sixty seven. I think
Indiana was what something like one and seventy one against
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top five teams in school history until yesterday. I'll make
it two. Indiana's hit list since the start of last
year now includes Nebraska, Washington, Michigan, you know, Michigan State, UCLA.
I'm talking about Illinois, Iowa, Oregon. Kurt Signetti is seventeen
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and two as a head coach of the Indiana.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Eaones with the only two losses being to the people
that played for the national championship last year.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
By the way, and had kurtz Signetti lost yesterday, it
might have been a third team that played for a
national championship that he would have lost to, and it
would have been on the road, and it would have
been on the road Columbus South Bend, Eugene. But Kurt
Signetti is not someone for self imposed limitations. He decided
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to win the damn game. And so he's seventeen and
two as the head coach at Indiana. He is what
is it now, eleven and one in Big Ten play
as a head coach at Indiana. Oregon's last home loss
was November twenty twenty two, if their second home loss
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since twenty eighteen. Oregon doesn't lose by double digits at home.
I think that it's been It's been something like seven
eight nine years since that happened.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
They don't lose at home in general.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, this is a This is a type of wind
that is extremely rare in the sport of college football.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's earth shattering for some people.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I know, I know it is.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It has to be like, can you imagine being being
like an Oregon or a big ten, like like a
like a blue blood Homer.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You're a Brett McMurphy, right, and and and and you
have to wake up and you have to think about
that Indiana, Like he has to come to Bluemoton and yeah,
and he has to he has to get out of
his you know, first class airport lounges and and all
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this stuff and travel down to Bloomington, Indiana to watch
football games. Now, because now we're a perennial prom.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I mean the teams, the teams that end up usually
winning top ten, top five, let's say, top five road games.
You know, you go on the road and actually beat
a top five team at their place. That's usually an
accomplishment reserved for the juggernauts of college football. You're talking
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about Jim Harbor, Michigan, Ryan Day, Urban Meyer, Ohio State.
You know, the the Dan Landing Oregon Ducks when they
went to Penn State and be James Franklin's team a
few weeks ago. But Oregon's had, you know, even before
this season, Oregon's had you know, impressive road wins where
they've gone to an opposing team's house. And won Texas
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when Texas went to Alabama a couple of years ago
in a non conference game, and one we're talking about Georgia, Texas, Alabama,
Ohio State, Michigan. You get an occasional sort of Baylor
thrown in there, but I mean, absolute chills, absolute goosebumps. Man,
We've gone long enough on this podcast without saying the
name Brian Haynes. Yeah, I mean, it just had his
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name at the start and just ended the episode. It's
really it's this whole this whole game is really a
Brian Haynes tweet, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah it is. And and you know, some people are
gonna hate for me, hate that I'm going to say this,
but we have to enjoy him while we have him,
because this that guy is there for another three months.
He's not here next year. He's There's no way, there's
just no way. There's not enough money in the world
you could pay this guy to just keep it being
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a coordinator. Not just that you, I mean just in general,
Like I don't know why this guy doesn't get looks
for head coaching jobs.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's he is now. I mean, this has to.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
He has to.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
He has to. He has to.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I mean, just such an incredible job, you know, uh,
low key, you know, bizarro world. Let's say sig leaves,
IYU goes to Florida hypothetical. I don't think I hate
just promoting him to head coach.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, right, and so I don't think Signetti is leaving,
but I know he's not leaving.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
In bizarro hypothetical world, Jeff Bezos decides to fund Florida
football and Signetti gets one billion dollars a year to coach.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
By the way, unless unless there's something I don't know,
as far as I don't know, conflict behind the scenes,
Signetti should not leave, Like it's not in his best
interest to leave for another job if he wants to retire.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
No, be my guest, But yeah, no, he's not. He's
not leaving.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So many people he shouldn't leave. Why the sorry, why
the heck would he leave? Right, don't get me plugged
into It's such a stupid argument from people who know
nothing about like the IU football program, who just want
to sit here and be like why, I'd tell you, like,
why the hell, why the hell would you stay there? Like,
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come on, man, are you watching.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
What's happening on the field. What's happening. It's not, it's
not even in the sport exactly in the sport. Forget Indiana,
the sport is and by the way, same thing in
men's basketball. The game is different now than it was
two years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yep. Money talks, TV contracts carry a lot of weight
and the sec as you know, it isn't what it
is now. The playing field has been leveled, and Indiana
is showing that as much as anyone, more than anyone. Yeah,
Brian Haynes, you know, somebody with Ohio Ohio roots obviously,
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you know, tagged along with Signetti I believe. I don't
know if it was back in the i u P days,
but definitely at Elon into James Maddens with him for
a long time. Uh. It's just here's somebody who should be.
He should be.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
He should absolutely be considered at the top if you're
Broyles Award right. I think he's the front runner for
the Broyles Award right now as the top as the
top assistant in the country, and those guys get.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Hired probably probably was at the top before yesterday. Will
Stein at Oregon, Yeah, I mean that's that's that's even Yeah,
like that's that's the point, like.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Their house king of the court baby, exactly if I
U runs the table the rest of the year, makes
it to Columbus, or makes it to play Ohio State.
By the way, in Indianapolis, we don't have to play
him in Columbus for the first time in forever. I
like our chances in that game.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Game and in Bloomington to start the twenty three season,
I think it was on CBS. Yeah, it's an afternoon game.
Marvin Harrison Junior had like two catches in Ohio State,
one by like ten.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, and it was uncomfy. They were not comfy.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
No, they weren't. They weren't at all. And then of course, yeah,
last year Indiana went out to a seven nothing lead
against them, but things turned after that. But like Oregon Oregon,
you could tell in the third quarter. I always give
a team halftime to adjust, especially a team with the
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elite coaching staff of Oregon where Dan Lanning is such
a great CEO and Will Stein is so good at
calling plays for that Ducks offense. Yeah, you could tell
them in the third quarter. They had no answers as
far as their offense. I guess what Bryant Haynes was
giving them. From a picture and personnel standpoint, you had
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the explosive play. You had the explosive play in the
first quarter with with with Benson, you had a couple
of runs between the tackles that got you know, kind
of kind of chunky gains. But again it was it
was the one offensive touchdown, and they really looked like
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they had had no edge anywhere. They didn't they I
don't think will Stein could expose Indiana up front. Will
Stein couldn't exposed Indiana's linebacking corps, and he couldn't exposed
Indiana secondary. You had the one bust by the safety.
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But other than that, by the.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Way, and I used two big games this year, they've
given up two touchdowns. Both touchdowns were covered blown coverags. Yeah,
both of them are busts.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
If you don't if they don't, if they don't, if they.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Don't mess up, if they don't kill themselves, they they
don't give up points.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And I don't know, maybe maybe you get a bust
a game just because of how downhill this defense likes
to play. There's so much preparation going into the game,
so much game planning that you know what Dante Moore's
tendencies are, you know what Kenyan Sadiq's tendencies are as
Oregon's starting tight end. You know what Malik Benson and
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Decoran Moore do out there, Gary Bryant as Oregon's receivers,
Noah Whittington as Organ's running back. And you're sitting there
and you're saying, I know what's coming, I know what's coming.
And then you know what, when the other coaching staff
has amazing coaches, they'll get you once, they'll get you twice.
You know, Beelama is a great coach. You and I
have said that for a long time. Barry Lunney, the
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Illinois offensive coordinator, has been there for a long time.
They're gonna get you once or twice. But over the
course of sixty minutes, over the course of what sixty
seventy eighty scrimmage plays, Indiana's defense wins out. The only
times they didn't were in Columbus and in South Bend.
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And like you can see that Indiana is taking a
lot of lessons learned from those two games and applying
them to what they've done this season. I mean, at
the end of the day, Oregon put up two hundred
and sixty seven yards of offense. I believe only in
the loss to Ohio State and the CFP did Dan
Lannings Oregon Ducks put up under three hundred yards of
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total offense. And that was a game where Ohio State
murdered Oregon from start to finish, men handled them to
sixty seven on the board. As far as total yards
putrid yards per play performance for Oregon relative to what
we've seen in typical seasons, Dante Moore, who was at
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times the favorite to win the Heisman Trophy, comfortably putting
up you know, two point fifty through the air this season,
in addition to running every so often for scrambles for
designed runs to gain yardage. Last night, yesterday evening, whatever
you want to call it, he put him one to
eighty six through the air with two interceptions, and after
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accounting for sacks, he is minus twenty seven rushing yards
on his ledger. Talking about that, Dante more had taken
just one sack all season, Indiana got to him six
times yesterday four sacks, six sacks, including Aiden Fisher going
out and getting one and a half. Matt, you and
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I had talked about Aiden Fisher, Mikhail Kamara and D'Angelo
Ponds coming into the season, and we said, Indiana's defense
can trust these three guys. You can trust them. There
are a lot of other question marks on this defense,
but they're there. There are these three guys, three superstars,
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so you can trust on a week two week basis
to do their jobs. And every so often folks would
be in D'Angelo PONSI have a touchdown to Maryland last year?
Or oh, has Aiden Fisher done anything through a few
weeks this season? Oh, where's Mikhel kamara sack production? I
haven't seen it yet. Aiden Fisher, Matt was a man
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on a mission yesterday? How how how important.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Is best game he's played? That is the best game
he's played in? Who's your uniform?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I think yesterday he was Indiana's best player yesterday. I
mean if not, who would you who would you say
was Indiana's best player yesterday?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I don't know if he was the best linebacker yesterday
for AU though, right like Elijah Hardy Fan Club Elijah Hardyhive.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Kellen Wyatt is Ellen Wyatt.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Freaking is freaking amazing. Every time he's on the field,
he makes a play and he was banged. Isaiah Isaiah
Jones has been fantastic at thirteen tackle. Who was my
favorite player on defense last year? You know exactly what.
Jalen Walker was the favorite player on defense, right, Yeah,
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Jalen Walker was a favorite player defense last year. And
the one thing we talked about going into the season
was can anybody replace Jalen Walker on this team. They've
not only replaced him, they've upgraded him.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I was really concerned about that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Was that was my biggest piece of concern for the
entire well, I guess uh CJ. West was actually my
biggest concern, which by the way, Tyree Tucker has done
a fantastic job incredible Wigan for that incorrect double.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
But Stephen Daily, big game. Yes, Stephen Daily.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
With one of full also made the second biggest play
of the game, which was batting that pass up into
the air giving the was a Wheeler waller. The defense
upgraded all across the board, but especially in those in
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in outside inside line back linebacker position. I don't I
don't know the hybrid hybrid whatever. Isaiah Bones Jones and
Kelln Wyatt are two difference makers on that that defense.
They've taken this defense from a defense that was stout, methodical,
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aggressive but not overly aggressive, into demonic, demonic like they
this defense like will give offensive coordinators nightmares that like
you said, they they attack the attack, the attack down
so downhill, downhill football. Wyatt and Jones, both those guys
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are always attacking down field. They're in the backfield, they're
getting sacks, they're disrupting plays. If they're not tackling somebody,
they're forcing somebody into running into a lane that they
weren't supposed to be running into. Like, they're making plays,
all of these and they're making Aiden Fisher's life easier.
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They're making uh, the secondary's life's easier, right, And everybody's
playing better because of these guys, and they're playing better
as a whole.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, but yes, I will, I mean I will run
through a wall for Aiden Fisher.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Aiden Fisher is the most important player on the core,
the Core. He's the quarter he's the quarterback of the defense, right,
and and he's a little green dot out there, right.
He's the guy that talks to Brian Haynes on the
on the microphone, and he's the one you can always
see him communicating stuff the pre snap right, and I
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think they're better.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
There are going to be NFL teams that say, Aiden
Fisher's not fast enough, Aiden Fisher's not athletic enough. And
those are the NFL teams that consistently end up with
four wins a year.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's gonna be like Carolina and such.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, the NFL team that picks up Aiden Fisher, I
guarantee you is going to be an NFL team that
you know is coming off of, you know, a couple
of playoff runs as of recent times. You know it's
gonna be the you know, San Francisco, the Rams, you know,
Kansas City. It's gonna be one of those teams Eagles
con use them.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
You know what I'm saying. I mean, I don't know
where he landed yesterday. I feel like he finished with
maybe thirteen tackles yesterday, something like that. I'm spitballing off
the top of my head, but like one and a
half sacks, Absolutely legendary performance. Indiana's team was outstanding on defense.
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And we'll and we'll talk we'll talk more about some
big picture stuff here in a moment, but other other
defensive notes and nuggets. I just wanted to throw out there.
It was pretty profound to me to see Indiana sacked
Dante Moore on the first play of the game. Yeah.
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I typically don't get caught up in all of that.
I typically don't get caught up in all of that.
It's one play out of you know, one hundred and fifty,
one hundred and forty across both sides of the ball.
That that felt significant. Mario Landino I think was on it.
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Maybe Tyreek Tucker that felt that felt important. Man, I
don't know. Maybe it's because it was a day game,
but even before the game yesterday, I don't know. Maybe
it was the vibe I was getting off of Game
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Day ESPN's College Game Day show in the morning. It
did not feel as hostile as Columbus or South Bend,
do you agree.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I mean, from reports on the grounds, Oregon fans are
quite nice.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Actually it didn't. I mean as like a TV cauldron
of you know, intimidation. No. But I also think that
we probably took him out of it too.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's what I was about to say. I think that
does have something to do with what Indiana did in
that game. More then when Oregon they popped off. When
Oregon hit that long touchdown that kind of came through
a little bit, right, just Indiana's on these little dink
and dunk slow methought, I'm not even thinking that. I mean,
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he's steady in control because thinking duckt beans like we're
getting three or four yards of play. Yeah, it was
like they're hitting ten yard plays. It's having eight ten
yard plays right, Like he's slow but methodical drives down
the fields and and yeah, and and we took them
out of the game. And so yeah, of course I
don't think that it's the same.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So it's probably it's probably.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
That Columbus sword, sure, but also I think, yeah, I
think we have a little bit of PTSD when it
comes to that. I'm not gonna lie playing in those environments,
you know.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Well, because they we'll think about that, right, because Indiana
is not just as much as you may be surprised
by this, Indian is not just a team full of
one year transfer guys like Carter Smith. Carter Smith has
played in Autson, he's played now, he's played in Notts,
but he's played at Ohio State, he's played at Michigan,
he's played at Penn State. Pac Cougan of course, He's
a one year transfer, but he's he's He's been in
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a lot a big game, big game environments. You know, Indiana.
Indiana's got guys that have just that have been around
for a while. Isaiah Jones, he talked about him. He
was He was on the Tom Allen roster before Allen.
He was replaced by Signetty Yeah, Isaiah Jones, the Tom
Allen recruit. You know, Kellen Wyant and Roman Henby obviously
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have had that big ten, big game experience. Other notes
and nuggets just just sort of one liners I'm throwing
out here. Yeah, Tyreek Tucker is my favorite player to
watch on defense. I know I talked to you about
how I'd run. I don't. I don't think he's the best.
Tyreek Tucker is the best. Tyree Tucker is my favorite
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player to watch on defense. He is a problem for
every interior offensive line that he faces. He is nimble,
he is smart. Tyreek Tucker multiple times this season, has
doubled back on screen pass with anticipation to affect the
quarterback's vision what the offense is trying to do. He's
tackling guys behind the line, in front of the line.
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He's flying around for a guy his eyes and I'm
blown away.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
That's what I'm saying. He's so nimble for a chunky
man like himself.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
That guy absolute wagon. Lewis Moore. Man, Lewis Moore, you dog,
I mean you know you were you were, you were
exploring greener grass elsewhere for a year at Ole Miss.
And uh, of course Lewis Moore does also fall under
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the category of Hey, he's a Tom Allen guy who
has seen all sorts of hostile Big ten road environments.
He's back, gets the clutch pick in the fourth quarter.
Man absolutely a.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
God everyone out of everyone on this team, I think
think I'm actually the happiest for Lewis Morton because I
think I see, I see his journey like we've seen
we've seen him when right, Yeah, and he goes back
to to to Ole Miss. It goes to Ole Miss
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and it just doesn't work out. And he comes back
and now is having the season of his life like
it's perfect. It's actually perfect. And he's exactly what we
needed in the secondary to hitting. We needed a big, hitting,
sure tackling safety and he went out and got him.
And he just happened to be already very familiar with Bloomington,
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which is awesome, so good, so good. Different coaching staff too,
right like so so dope.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Different coaching staff also. He just you know college. You know,
sometimes sometimes the college beats everything out like the good
old days I played for the program on the front
of the jersey.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
That's where I brings a tear to my eye.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I will talk more about this Indiana win over Oregon,
talk about some big picture stuff here. It's kind of
a kind of casual wrap up conversation Matt and I
are having. We'll talk a little bit about Michigan State.
Also because Indiana plays another big ten game on Saturday
on Peacock.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
What time is that at I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
After I tell you who won the week this past
week in i U sports, and I have to give
a shout out to everyone. Everyone wins. Men's soccer wins,
women's soccer wins. But okay, the volleyball team in particular, yeah,
has reached a new altitude.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they are role.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
They playing Steve Aired who, by the way, when when
when he took out from the time took over in Indiana.
He believed in Indiana volleyball as much as anyone if
not more than anyone. Very approachable guy, good rep you know. Anyway,
all I'm saying is like, I believe Indiana got the
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highest ranking recorded ranking in school history top twenty five.
And by the way, this is Indiana team that's made
the NCAA Tournament before it made this. I believe they
made the Sweet sixteen. Yeah, as far as volleyball tournament's concerned,
but this is the highest ranking in school history, getting
cracking the top twenty after a Hollywood sweep of ranked you,
(40:38):
ce LA and USC. How you came back home? No
rat poison. They beat Washington. I can't remember if that
was before the West coast trip, but but but then
I know they came back to the Midwest and went
to ann Arbor in one. If they're an East Lansing
today on Sunday fourteen and one with the only loss
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on the road to a very good Western Kentucky team
that's on the cusp of the top twenty five, and
I would not be surprised if the Hilltoppers made the
NCAA tournament. Wilkinson Hall is a great place to watch
a volleyball game. I would highly recommend going if you
haven't already there should be some massive environments coming up.
I also plays a game bridge Fieldhouse against Purdue on Thursday.
(41:27):
What great timing to capitalize on the momentum that this
program has, so I'm looking forward to seeing that one
in Indianapolis this week. Folks are minder. If you'd like
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tell a friend that that type of stuff really makes
a big difference. Does Man. To answer your question from earlier,
we played Michigan State a three thirty on Peacock on
Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Which I'm sick of these three thirty starts.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Man in uh in China. It's not ideal for Pete,
for for who's your nation out there, but look ideally
for you, Matt, Indiana sort of shows up, has a
clean hour and.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
A half take cares of business, Yes, yes, and I
would like that. We'll talk about making some freshman playing
while I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Sleep at Kobe Martin's breakout another on those and so
and so we'll talk a little bit more in depth
about this Michigan State game. But first, like just big pickure, Matt,
I mean, how high can this team fly? Can we
say the B word? It is? It live Indiana? Indiana's
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manner chances they're they're in play, right. I mean, you
beat all these teams by a million, beat Illinois by
a million, You go to Oregon, you win by ten.
Ohio State's a machine. I mean, CFP is a lock
for IU. I mean, you know, just just just go
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on about the big picture for this Indiana football team
for the rest of this season and beyond.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Okay, So I kind of talked about this previously where
I was like, I'm waiting to see how the team
does it Illinois right at the Illinois game, and I'm
waiting to see how they show up in Oregon right
before I make a statement on this team after seeing
(43:59):
both of those which, by the way, they passed with
flying colors. Yeah, this is a national championship winning roster. Yep,
coaching staff, coacham everything and coaching staff, team, everything going on,
they can win a national championship this year.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
No, like, no, you like you've you've seen some of
the great SEC teams over the years, and you know
there have been a lot of great teams that haven't
won it all. Like you know, as someone who grew
up in Florida, I mean, look like like you're serious here,
You're saying this Indian, this Indiana team in twenty twenty
five and all the game is different now than it
was even two years ago. But like you're saying, this
team can win it all.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I am never hyperbolic when it comes to basketball. I
think my takes are sometimes very hyperbolic. When it comes
to football. I think I'm about as level headed as
it comes, because that is, again, the bread and butter
what I grew up with. I was a Florida Gators
fan for most of my you know, you've.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Seen the safe childhood.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I've seen the KNICKT teams. I had, the less mile
LSU teams. Like like, I've been around SEC football for
most of my life. I know what I'm talking about.
When I'm watching football teams and I'm telling you at
all three phases IU as a championship winning team. They
have the coaching staff of a championship winning team. They
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have a coordinators and the mentality and the fight of
a national championship winning team. They have a Ferrari at
quarterback that is something you need for a championship winning team.
You have skill position players that are always open, always
open in Surat and Omar Cooper who just make the
(45:42):
right plays. You have a running back room that only
falls forward right, and you have a defense that is
full of playmaking, ball hawking psycho paths like this team.
There is not a weakness on this team. There's not
(46:03):
an offensive line. I don't even think no. Oregon's offensive
line is amongst one of the best in the country,
and I think handled them very solidly, right, very true.
Of course, a good offensive line is going to struggle
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against a bad defensive line every once in a while.
You saw that a couple times during the game. I
don't think they struggled demonstratively. I don't think there was
there's some obvious thing that that happened in that game
where I was like, well, you know, here we go again.
You know I've seen this before. No nothing like that
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at all. I genuinely think I think this team is
made for the long haul, to go all of the
go the whole way. Now that being said, to win
a national title, you need luck, right, and that luck
is injury luck staying healthy?
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Sure, and and and I guess the one weakness I
does have CFP, right, Like you don't want to face
Georgia and Atlanta for example, if it comes to that. I,
you know, I'm just I was just talking about what
I've seen as an sec homer bringing it over.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
I I I the new playoff. I must selling an
old man, but the new the new playoff stuff is
new to me, Like having having to worry about the
bracket in football is a new thing for my brain
to have to handle, right, Like, And you're right though,
like you do have to get some favorable matchups in
those those rounds.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Right, But no, I.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
What I'm saying, the only weakness is IU team. As
I said that, the the only weakness they actually really
have is depth. Right, So if you stay healthy, like I,
I don't see why this team can be playing in February,
right or was it like late January?
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Right? Yeah? So I completely agree, I, you know, I
know there are times here where I like, you know,
I would like to sort of poke holes on what
you're saying, But like they check all the boxes. They
check all the boxes, all of the box. You know,
the quarterback that can make all the throws. Coaching staff
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that knows what the heck that they're doing, game planning
adjustments front, the front four, defensively, offensive line, especially at
the tackle, you know, especially at the tackle and the
left tackle in the center positions. Secondary, special teams. I
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was not sure about the special teams coming into the season.
You were talking about, you know, Indiana's linebacker outside of
ala Aiden Fisher. I'm senior. I went, can you trust
like Nico Radichiic beyond forty yards? What happens if you
need a fifty yard er to win a game? What's
the punter gonna look like? Kick? Kick, keep coverage, punk coverage?
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What's the situation there?
Speaker 2 (49:08):
A plus?
Speaker 1 (49:09):
A plus is across the board from a special team standpoint.
You know, if I Frankie not only hit the fifty
eight yard or yesterday, but like his touch back rate
is astronomical. I don't think it's one hundred percent. I
think it's like ninety eight percent. Just every every team
starts with the ball at their own twenty five when
they face Indiana, he just pummels it out of the end.
(49:30):
Zonem like, you know, we don't, we don't gotta, we
don't gotta, you know, talk about this. We don't gotta
ask questions about this. Indiana checks all the boxes. It's
it's crazy. It's crazy to talk about banners in college
football when it comes to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Insanity, man, because I like.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Indiana Notre Dame. I'm on a neutral site. I'm taking Indiana. Yeah,
you know, I'm you know, Indiana LSU on an neutral site.
I'm taking Indiana, even if that games in New Orleans,
which that would be unfortunate. But Indiana LSU. I'm taking Indiana, Indiana,
Georgia neutral site. I'm taking Indiana. I think Texas Tech
is really good. I do. I think Texas. Texas Tech
(50:16):
is an awesome team. I'm still taking Indiana. Texas Tech
reminds me a little bit of what Indiana was last season.
Indiana Oklahoma, Indiana on a neutral site. Yeah, Indiana A
and M. Indiana on a neutral site. Indiana, Miss, Oh,
(50:36):
Indiana Ole Miss. You watch old Miss yesterday at Washington
State and taking Indiana on a neutral site. Indiana Oregon.
It's all that I mean. I like, Look last year,
did have Oregon lose at Ohio State, lose at Oregon
before returning the favor in the National championship game. Sorry,
in the Rose Bowl. I would like to avoid Oregon.
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When we talked about a match up to avoid in
the bracket, I'd like to avoid Oregon. Give me, give
me somebody else, Indiana, Miami. I might lean Miami, just
the way things have gone this year. But you know,
we're talking about games where even if Indiana is an underdog,
it's three points, it's five points, it's maybe seven to
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Ohio State. Crazy times. I think you're spot on. I
think Indiana is just as capable as anyone of winning
a national championship this season. The sportsbooks agree. Sportsbooks agree
Indiana is basically top four, top five, top six as
far as national title odds, their second as far as
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Big Ten title odds after Ohio State. Naturally, crazy times.
I guess my my out of left field take on
this a little bit is I I don't think I
want Indiana to host a playoff game in the sense,
(52:00):
give me the buye and take me straight to neutral sites.
Give me the buye. Where Indiana is a is a
what is it is a top four? Top four that
good buys in this bracket? Yeah, what I don't want
is play, Yeah for sure. I mean I'm assuming that
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the eight people comes out Sunday after Indiana is going
to be at least third or better. You take care
of business at Penn State. If you're twelve and one
with the lost Ohio State in the Big Ten championship game,
I think you should be a top four team. If
that happens, you get the buye. Give me the BUYE.
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I don't want to play an extra game in this field.
I don't want to. I don't want weather to derail
Indiana's natty hopes. I don't want to get into a snowy,
slushy Bloomington winter night similar to the we saw against Perdue,
but of course Perdue, but like especially the Ryan Walters
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a era, but like you know, give me and I understand.
Like if Indiana plays a home game, sure it's probably
against Alabama, it's probably against Georgia, which is hilarious to
see an SEC team playing in those conditions. But like,
let's go, let's go straight to the neutral games. Give
me a roof, give me an SEC opponent, Let's play football.
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So you know, I'm like sitting here and I'm saying,
you know, let's rock and roll as far as that's concerned.
You know, I don't really want to mess around with
snow slush, so I don't know that's probably gonna upset
some people. But like, if these are the sacrifices we
have to make to get Indiana National championship, and so
be it. Let's talk about Michigan State here in just
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Speaker 2 (54:10):
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from there man. On Saturday afternoon, Indiana takes on Michigan
State and the Spartans are struggling. There are three and
three on the season with second year head coach Jonathan Smith.
Quarterback Aiden Childs left the game yesterday against the UCLA
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with an injury, a game that Michigan State lost thirty
eight to thirteen in East Lansing. The vibes are not
high with the Spartans and now they come to Bloomington
for a three thirty start on Peacock in a game
where Indiana right now is a twenty four and a
half point favorite. How does this go sideways for Indiana
(55:23):
met Is there a way at all? No?
Speaker 2 (55:28):
I mean, just lose focus, I guess would be the
most reasonable way that would happen. But I'm when have
we seen did team.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Do that right at Michigan State last year? For a quarter,
for a quarter, for a quarter.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
It was at Michigan State.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
This is at home.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
We're coming back home after winning at Oregon. It's a
sellout crowd homecoming. Yeah true, come on, now, come on now,
I will say, Michigan State, I do hope we don't
come out with a sluggish start. I want us to.
I would like to go to bed by the end
of the first quarter, and thank you very much. That's
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all I'm saying is And I do think this game
could get ugly. This game could get ugly fast in
Michigan State is slow on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
They're slow, say they have good like trenches. They're good
at running the ball, they're good at stopping the run.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
They're like Wisconsin, but only slightly better than the current
version of Wisconsin, but not even. But this Wisconsin trys
to spread the balls. They're like a worse Iowa, but
like a quarterback that should be better than how he's playing.
And they should have skill position players but they don't.
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I don't like this Michigan State team. They make me
uncomfortable watching them. And I'm not even a fan of
the team, right like I I just watched this team
play and I go, there's so many things wrong they
They're uninspired.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Any like their jersey choice yesterday. I don't even saw
what they wore against U C. L A.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
I that was my eyes bled a little bit watching
that as well. And so, like I said, everything that
that surrounds that the football program right now, I'm like, man.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
And they're not like, man, a dumpster fire, you know,
like they're like they're they beat on dumpster and they
are the dumpster.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah, they're They're just not on fire yet. They're they're
just the dumpster. Like it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
It's not that's not nice. That's not nice.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
I mean the their fans would be the first one
to tell you they want to ship their coach to
guant Guantanamobey.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Man, Yeah, you and I were talking before we had
record today, but like I guess you and I disagree
on this. But if we rewind back to the twenty
twenty three Scott Dolson job search after letting go of
Tom Allen, I looked at Jonathan Smith at Oregon State
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and I was like this, this this guy is doing
a lot of things at Oregon State that I want
to see happen at Indiana, Like, you know, there's development
of quarterbacks there. The fan base was really engaged in
the final season of PAC twelve play and I couldn't
have been more wrong.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Dolson saw something that whole situation was stinky smelly to me.
I didn't. I didn't like any bit of the well,
not one bit.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Indiana don't. Yeah, we did, I mean, I mean, well
know that that they both talked to us. That implies luck,
That implies luck. Scott Dolson, Yeah, well we both talked
to about it.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
When when when I was going on to make the
coaching hire, the best coaching hire at the time was Signetti.
For us, there was not a better hire, not.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
Indian HQ, who've got ten thousand followers or so. I
sent out a poll the day the Kurt Signetti news
broke that Indiana reportedly was going to hire him as
i use next head coach, and I said, like, do
you approve of Kurt Signetti as a choice for Indiana's
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next head coach? Ninety six percent of people said yes.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
It was always talk about, talk about.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
A beacon of unity. Kurt Signetti got ninety six percent
of people, Scott Dolson and Kurt Signetti got ninety six
percent of people to agree on something.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
He was so obviously the correct choice. It wasn't even
like you just you had to be living under a
rock to think differently, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
For sure, totally agree with that. Yeah, Indiana's a twenty
four and a half point favorite here. You guys can
do the research yourself. I'm not sure the last time
Matt and I were talking about this the last time.
Indiana's twenty four and a half point favored against Michigan State.
Michigan State's had some really good teams over the years,
especially Mark D'Antonio. A lot of people are like, who's Signetti? Like,
(01:00:20):
I think Signetti's kind of similar to what Mark D'Antonio
did at Michigan State. If you wanna comparison that you
really haven't heard of much like, I don't think it's Saban.
I don't think it's you know, some of these other
guys that you've heard thrown out with comparisons to what
Sig is doing. I see a lot of Signetti Mark
D'Antonio similarities and so. And the funny thing is D'Antonio,
(01:00:45):
I believe took over for Saban at Michigan State, which
is which is pretty funny. The weather looks to be
maybe little rainy on Saturday in Bloomington, but it'll be
warm and so it shouldn't be too much of a
of a of a hurdle for Indiana to overcome. Matt.
I think Indiana wins this game fifty two to seven.
I think, as you said, this is this is a
(01:01:10):
Michigan State team. You know, they'll they'll hit a run
player or too like Oregon did yesterday. They'll might they'll
make life a little bit difficult for Indiana as far
as I usual run game is concerned. Fifty two to seven,
I think Fernando Mendoza will throw four at least four
touchdowns USC, and like part of the problem is like
(01:01:31):
it was more competitive than it should have been. But USC.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Put up.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Five twenty three yards of total offense, and like it
could have been more.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
It could have been a lot more. They could have
destroyed them.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Fifty two to seven, I think, I think you know,
UCLA put up four eighteen balanced attack. UCLA won thirty
eight to thirteen yesterday against Michigan State. I think this
is fifty two to seven territory. Kobe Martin fifty yards
in a touchdown. How do you see this game? Met
(01:02:13):
Who do you have winning and by how much?
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Uh Indiana by cover grating I think, let's say forty eight.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Three. I love it. I love it super yeah. That's
how we see this. This is all going just real quick, Matt.
You know, a lot a lot of fun stuff of
going going around across the Big Ten. Indiana and Ohio
State are the only unbeatens, a bunch of teams with
(01:02:49):
one loss in conference play. Five teams, including Michigan State,
are winless in league play. You and I we're gonna
give all of you our first look at the Big
Ten slate for the weekend of October eighteenth, and give
you one or two picks of the week that kind
of stand out they were kind of interested in, that
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have caught our attention. I will just come out flat
and say Iowa is going to cover any number at
home against Penn State on Saturday night. Iowa was a
competent football team, but the good coach, sensible zoop guys,
Penn State is not. And I was going to get
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a home game at night coming off a game where
they really destroyed Wisconsin. Iowa minus anything. I mean, if
it crosses three, look at it. But Iowa minus anything.
In my upset is there are a lot of good
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There are a lot of good options here on the slate.
M No, I can't, I can't uh.
Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Give me Purdue.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Give me Purdue straight up at Northwestern produce getting a
field goal right now, give me pretty straight up. I'll
hear what you have to say, and then I'll say
the one that I almost said.
Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Give me the Trojans. Okay, that was gonna be mine,
all right, the Trojans. I think USC walks into Notre
Dame and hit some Irish, dumb lovey people up the
side of the head. Yeah, give me, give me the Trojans,
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and then also give me Minnesota mm hmm. Weekends to win.
It's a weird Friday night game. Nebraska is traveling. I like,
I like the Gophers at home.
Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Is that a trophy game? I can't remember. Indiana Michigan
State's a trophy game.
Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
It is the old brass baby, who did you take?
Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
You took USC uh to cover? Or you do.
Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
USC to win and Minnesota to win?
Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Oh straight bypassing the spread the spread option. I like
that Ohio State at Wisconsin is nasty. That is nasty stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
That's gonna be uh if you ever hate I hate
Wisconsin fans so so that might actually must watch TV
for me because that is that that just watching.
Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Their misery is gonna be fun? Does that make that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
No? No, because what it all goes back to is
that Brett Bilma one afternoon decided to put up eighty
three points on Indiana. Yeah. Yeah, you go from there.
Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Also, the many years that Wisconsin basketball has plagued this.
Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Yeah, still still continue to do. So. Any final thoughts
the year is he wind down on the Sunday Man,
any anything that we may have missed, anything as it
released to IU football, anything released to college football, any
fun games, the score lines that you saw yesterday that
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caught your attention, any any any final comments as you
wind down here on the Sunday.
Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Yeah, I mean I you has no is no longer
the Cinderella story that everybody thought that we were, or
at least the national media, I mean us people that
followed the team very closely, all new you know that
this team is a juggernaut.
Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
And now we're gonna be to get taken seriously, which
is nice but also comes with a little bit of,
you know, a little bit of trepidation because that means
I you now as a target on us back, right,
and not just yeah we're the hunt. Did not the
hunting anymore. Right, I think we are the hunting.
Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
I think we're not a hunter. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
That just sounded so much more fun than than than whatever.
We are the hunter now, we were the hunter. Now
now we're the hunting. Yeah, okay, I got all right, sure,
and so the we're the hunted. So now we have
to figure out what it's like to play as a favorite,
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which is not something we're used to.
Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
But you know where where where a bad quarter sends
a fan base into insanity, right, like like in the
sense of, you know, if you're down at half to
Penn State on the road in Happy Valley, people are
gonna lose their mind.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
That's an insane statement. I don't expect us to be talking.
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
If you're against Maryland on the road in the second half,
people are gonna go crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I do think there's gonna be something weird that goes
on like the like I already know it. You know
how hard it is to play a team that just
fired their head coach?
Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Game?
Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
You know that Pen that Penn State game. I'm staring
at the Penn State game. You know something weird They're
gonna fire Franklin the Week maybe because they have a
bye week before we play them, they're going to fire
him in the bye week.
Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
No, that's not that's not true. That's not true. They play,
they play at ohiost Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Okay, sorry, they're gonna fire him on the tarmac after
Ohio State and then we're gonna play the next week.
It's gonna be funky. Sorry, you're right.
Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
You wanna left field left field take for me, the
weird game is not going to be at Penn State.
I think the weird sort of the weird, the real
weird panic button sort of things aren't going right game
is black Friday Night at Purdue. I think that one
gets a little weird. I think Dave Dave otom Bury
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odom coach otum at Purdue is going to is going
to push some buttons under the lights at ross Aid
and they they have a pulse like Purdue has a pulse.
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Penn State does not, Michigan State does not, you know,
relative to Purdue, especially Maryland could get a little bit weird.
But I think Maryland they might have just taken a
couple of home losses that really sort of shake their
core a little bit. The home loss to Washington home
loss to Nebraska, I think, might you know, lead to
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some quit factor for Maryland coming up here.
Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
You see l A's feisty.
Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
U see la is looking better?
Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
There are they are?
Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
I am I am seeing that game in Bloomington, So
I'm like, all right, it's Bloomington Purdue night game. End
of the season. I don't know if Purdue is going
to be fighting for bowl eligibility. We'll see. I have
Purdue beating Northwestern this weekend for this upcoming weekend for
a reason. I think that's that's the one that gets
a little bit funky. And I hope I'm wrong, but
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it's the top tier college football. Just like you said, Matt,
Indiana is the the goliath. Now yep, this isn't yeah
like you said, not a Cinderella, not a plucky underdog,
not an upstart story.
Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
This is not some.
Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Indiana's a monstar. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, it's insane. I don't know how we got here.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Indiana is I don't know if Indiana is a villain,
but Indiana is not a fun, adorable success story. This
is titan time. Yeah, Indiana's a heavyweight in the sport
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of college football insanity, and and that is not an exaggeration,
asked Dan Lanning. Ask Brett Bielma, I'm sure even Ryan
Day and Marcus Freeman would agree to Like Indiana Kirk
Farren's a degree like just heavyweight. This is where we
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