Recapping IUBB at TBT, and IUFB Disrespected in Preseason Big Ten Poll [331]

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What a fascinating few days some former Hoosiers had during Assembly Ball's run at TBT in Hinkle Fieldhouse. Yogi Ferrell, Miller Kopp, and others donned Indiana colors once again, winning two games and getting knocked out in the round of 16. Which IU alumni could join the squad next year? Also, Big Ten media days are underway this week for football, with Curt Cignetti speaking on Thursday. What stands out about IUFB with fall camp around the corner? Is 17th fair in the preseason poll?
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Youth fans. There's a lot going on in the world,
all right. Things are a little you know, unpredictable in
you know, in politics, in the economy and climate. It's everything.
Oh so many things, so many crazy, unpredictable things are
going on. But we're still in the thick of the summer.

(00:27):
And let's face it, we got football season right around
the corner. And just when you thought you were about
to fully engage in football mode, you had an unbelievable, wacky,
wild TBT. Who's your experience to enjoy and to throw

(00:50):
your remote at the wall at over the last week
or so, Over the last few days or so, Matt
and You're going to talk a little bit about TBT,
which players we might want to see in an IU
alumni team in the future, chat a little bit about
the Big Ten preseason football poll, media days, and so

(01:10):
much more here on episode three to three one of
The Hoosier Sound, where we are the official podcast of
indiaan HQ. We're recording this edition of The Hoosier Sound
on Wednesday, July twenty fourth, twenty twenty four. I'm your host,
Nathany Christian. Here with me is my normal co host,
Matt Lukens Matt, there's a lot happening in the world

(01:33):
of sports outside the world of sports. I haven't checked
the news in the last twelve hours. I don't know.
Maybe something happened. Who cares. TBT is what we want
to start this with. It's by far the most important
thing going on on this planet. Assembly ball goes out there,
wins a couple games, loses Game three, knocked out in

(01:55):
the around the sixteen. It's not like we haven't seen
that before. We thought you basketball. It was great to
see a lot of former Hoosiers who wear cream and Crimson,
Yogi Pharrell, Miller Cop, saw some other hooteris as well.
Early on. What was your TBT experience and what are
one or two of your takeaways after watching a crazy,

(02:17):
crazy tournament over the last few things.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I mean, it was fun to have basketball in the summer.
You know, I've had the Summer League right for the NBA,
but it's been pretty fun to have like some college
basketball in the summer. And I've appreciated that I missed
seeing Yogi Farrell in an IU uniform. Yeah I didn't.

(02:45):
I haven't had enough time to miss Miller Cop in
our uniform. But it was still nice to see him
back in the Cream and Crimson again. I was actually
looking forward to seeing a lot more of the IU
guys play. I know a lot of them were injured
or had problems or or were waiting for the next
round to play basically, and sadly we didn't get that

(03:07):
far so we can see them. But I would have
liked to see Jordie Holes suit up. I would have
liked to see Devonte Green in that last game and
Mike I knowonle my fellow former well he's a former
Chinese citizen but former American living in China. I would
see him play. Yeah, yeah, it was a yeah, but

(03:32):
he didn't play. So you guys didn't really get much
from me in the end. And I'm actually that's a
bit of that's a that's a bit mean. I'm worth
at least a Playablevonley, I think.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
In my opinion, but I.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Would have liked to see more of the former alumni
play than just because it was really like that last
game was the Miller cop and Yogi Farrell show and
then a bunch of guys that didn't play for I
U right, So I would have liked to see more
alumni play, but it was fun. I didn't really get
to catch any of the games live because they were

(04:08):
at terrible times for me, like seven or eight in
the morning, and respectfully, I'm not getting up for that.
But I did watch a lot of the highlights and
replays and it looked like a good time. Yeah, but
obviously they came up short. But for the first time

(04:30):
of them actually being a team, beating Purdue in indyed
is fun. And then also, you know, making it to
the round of sixteen actually isn't bad. It's a pretty
decent accomplishment. I think they make a little bit of
money too, write, don't they. I think they make a
couple of checks.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
As far as what happens if you get knocked out.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'm pretty sure they won.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
They won.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
They won two thousand I remember, correct. I remember watching
the last part of the Purdue game and they want
they Robbi Hummel was mentioning something about winning two thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, I think that was because I'm assuming that there's
maybe because Julian Gamble hit the last shot in each
of the games, and he was wearing a particular shoe brand,
and that sort of there was some incentive there. It's
it's a little crazy to pay out the structure, but
it was fun to watch. Yeah, it's weird, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
But good good for them for these for some of
the guys making some money. And also Jullian Gamble, by
the way, honorary huser for the week.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's what I'll say. You know, I
know it's annoying that you didn't see a team of
a lot of Hoosiers out there, but guys like Julian Gamble,
Christian Doolittle, Keith Hornsby, Dakota Quinn, you know, they did best.
They did their best to represent, to represent and to
try to earn honorary housure status. You know, I was

(05:53):
honestly surprised as to how much I cared about this turnament. Yeah,
and I think a lot of the fan base shared
that sentiment as well. We put a pole out there
on Indiana HU back on Sunday, and I was like,
how much do you guys really care about this? And
a lot of folks were like expressing that they cared

(06:17):
as much about these TBT games as they would about
a big marquee non conference i e. Basketball matchup or
a Big Ten type of environment. You know we were
gonna we were gonna go out and face Iowa. If
we were going to go out and face Wisconsin. It's
like we care that much about assembly ball taking care
of business. Now. I think that was that was back

(06:38):
on Sunday, where you had a team of more Hoosiers involved.
So I do understand if that waned a little bit
in round three, but back on Friday and then on Sunday,
I was fired up. I mean when Indiana when Yogi,
when Yogi hit a couple of the step back threes,
I was like, whoa, Like there was something, you know,

(06:58):
there was something real happening there. I was like, yeah,
maybe let's go. It's just like twenty twelve, just like
twenty thirteen, just like twenty fourteen. Seeing I would have
loved to see Troy Williams out there, Christian Watford, will
she he, Victor Oladipo, like, there are a lot, there
are a lot of choices here. I know there are
some eligibility rules and such for players that are in

(07:19):
the NBA, so it's not I think at Trace Jackson
Davis or khalil Ware. But of course as far as
sort of that middle ground, like you've gotten kind of
used to the rules here, Like it's guys that played
but maybe are at the NBA level, you know, and
and I don't know, to me, Matt, like some of
those guys like Ola Depo, she He Watford, I don't

(07:41):
know if you can get Joey Brong or Fintassy or
Al Durham, you know, let's get them on this team.
You know, all indications of that Assembly Ball is going
to try to field a team again next year. Are
there any players? Are there any players that you would
like to see joining the squad next season outside of
a few that we've mentioned so far.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I mean the obvious one you mentioned was Vic. I
feel like that would be that'd be a good drawl
just for the tvt itself.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's because former NBA All Star guy that was in
the MVP conversation really not that long ago, right, getting
a getting a shot former what number two overall pick
right number? Yeah, So it would be a good draw
because you get some of the NBA eyes on it
because you know, seeing him play basketball again, it was

(08:33):
just a feel good story for everybody. And then on
top of that, you just you can bring back some
of the more recent I U alumni who are trying
to make h you know, a name for themselves overseas.
And if they play on a team and they play well,
somebody like Victor Otipa with all the eyes on them,
they could get a shot at a G League team.

(08:53):
They could get a shot at a summer camp contract
for for an NBA team, right, like a like a
training camp, or or even upgrade themselves from you know,
they're playing in Serbia, they could you know, end up
getting a contract in Greece or something going up the
euro Basketball Ladder right or the International Basketball Leader as
general in general.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
So I feel like that would be really good.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I like the idea of al I'm trying to think
who else is playing professionally. There's a lot of people
playing professional ever seas. Freddie McSwain somebody that I I mean,
Freddy's a friend of the program, So I I would
like to see Freddy on the team less. His personality's
infectious and he does all the dirty works. So you know,

(09:40):
I've got to have somebody like that on the team.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Absolutely, Maybe Zach Mcroberts's see some of that hustle, heart,
hustle and muscle on the court, you know, throw him
a roster, throw him on the roster. Just throwing out
some names. I have strong opinions about Zach McRoberts, just
throwing out some names. You know, Hey, how Tom Creen
bring him back too. While we're at it. He was

(10:03):
plugged in, he was watching.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
They need, they need some coaching that that they they
ran some of the worst basket They played some of
the worst like offensive basketball I think I've ever seen
in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Look, I think this tournament. I think this tournament's gonna
keep growing. And uh, you know, we're getting some high
profile let's get a coach. Let's get a high profile coach. Man,
give me a guy who former Final four guy and
Marquette and of course we remember him in Indiana. Like,
let's let's roll, let's go, let's let's crank up and

(10:39):
bring him back on campus. Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
And I mean that would be let the guys use
the facilities.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yep. And that was the last piece of this. I
would love to see Assembly Ball play games at Assembly Hall,
especially if we're talking about two thirds three quarters of
the team being actual who's your alumni Ropperina Houston hosted.
You know, I don't see any reason why Assembly Hall can't.

(11:05):
I mean, yeah, it would be a little embarrassing if
you lost a home game, but I would like to
see that take place. Also, I don't know if college
basketball can incorporate this smoothly, but the elam ending is awesome.
The elam ending is so it's pretty dumbe on how

(11:27):
you end basketball games with a made shot because you're
playing to a score, you're not trying to run the
clock out. You saw yesterday as India as an assembly
ball and they'll just called ball tried to come back
against Everlin Drive. The team in front gets a little

(11:51):
tight because you're not fouling them, you're not just running
the clock out. And so the team in front of
Indiana had assembly Ball had a bit of the issue
back on Friday in their first game where the assembly
Ball is ahead and a struggled to put away the crew.
The Valpo team with a few other players on that

(12:11):
squat back on Friday. It is such a great idea.
I don't know logistically how feasible it is. I don't
know if maybe you have it in certain games or
certain events or whatever. But Matt, we've talked a lot
about ways we can improve basketball on this podcast College
Basketball on this podcast, elam ending. I mean, is there

(12:33):
any downside to bringing this format into the college game.
I know it'll be tough to implement, maybe it won't
be for a while, but I just really loved how
these games ended with the made basket with the score
rather than just a clock running out. I love then.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I think it's one of the best features of the TPT,
or I think it is the best feature of the
TPT is the Ela Men. I've been a big proponent
of bringing it to all levels of basketball. Basic I
think it just makes the end of the game more fun,
especially even in even in games that are like kind
of a blowout, you still have to close them out right.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
You still have to get that last basket.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
And you know how we all like buzzer beaters, But
at the same time, I do understand how that would
make the buzzer beater a not as significant as it
once was, right because you're getting it every game, You're
getting a game winning shot every game. Whereas you know,
the part of having a buzzer beater is you don't
get those Northern Iowa's in the NCAA Tourney where they

(13:42):
like chuck it from half court and it goes in
like they're not You're not doing that with an element ending.
So I would actually kind of like to see it
done for tournaments.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
So for instance, like for the.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Bahamas Tournament, if brought if you brought into Atlantas because
it's in a place or like yeah, in Malle exactly,
in places that you have a lot of college basketball
games back to back to back to back. Why why
risk the games going over into overtime and just wasting
everybody's time and then they don't have enough rest.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
For the next day.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Just just I wouldn't mind because it's a non conference
game anyways, it's gonna matter for your NCAA tournament bid, right,
but it's only gonna matter whether you won or lost it.
That's basically it. The statistics of it don't really matter.
So just to make those those uh you know, mid

(14:40):
season non conference tourneys that all share the same venue
a little bit faster, I think the elam ending would
be perfect for that because it cuts down, you know,
could cut down probably like five ten minutes out of uh,
you know, of a game at the end of the game,
so you have a you know, a faster fourth quarter
of a game.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I think I'd love to see it.
I think that's a great idea. I think absolutely that
would be a wonderful way to incorporate TBT into things.
I'd love to see. Maybe the tea the elam ending
I should see included in the n I T I
think maybe that would be something you could use there.
The women's game, I'm sure could try to explore using

(15:23):
the elam ending. I know they've they've done some really
nice things, innovative things as far as advancing the ball
in women's basketball during timeouts four quarters of course there,
So you know, it would be great to see maybe
women's basketball incorporate elam ending somehow. Whatever the case is,
I just loved seeing games. And on a Maide shot,

(15:44):
you're right, maybe March Madness Week and reserve those buzz
beaters for that tournament because those are those are really
quite special. So so I hear what you're saying there.
So in a nutshell, I think both of us really
enjoyed watching TVT seeing those former Hoosiers on the court
once again in State of Indiana hinkle Field House. For sure,
the crowds are really good. You know this is about

(16:05):
what you see crowd wise. Usually games have you know,
a few thousand people there in this Hinkle Field House
was really noticeably loud coming through the coming through the
TV watching watching all three games televised on on on
this tvt for Assembly Ball. No peacock usage for summer

(16:28):
tournament there, which was great to see, so really enjoyable experience.
Definitely want to see Assembly Ball back next year. Led
by maybe head coach co head coaches Tom Preen and
Mike Davis. Let's let's win the whole thing next season, folks.
We're gonna keep chatting a little bit about IU basketball
and then and then run a little bit through the

(16:49):
preseason College Big Ten College Football Poll, maybe a little
chatting about CFB twenty five. But first the time for
who won the week this past week in IU sports,
and we are gonna tip our cap too the newest
NBA draftee from your Indiana Who's your Basket Men's basketball program,
khalil Ware, who had an unbelievable Summer league over the

(17:11):
course of his games in Vegas and even going back
to the California Classic where he started his summer league journey,
where summer League All First Team honors for somebody who
has picked number fifteen in the first round of the
NBA Draft. Only one other rookie, Houston's Reed Shepherd was

(17:33):
named to All Summer League First Team, where when fifteen
Shepherd went number three. So you can see, you know
the value that Miami got with that number fifteen pick,
just like the value Golden State got with taking Trace
Jackson Davis down at number fifty seven. Doubt Mike Woodson's
coaching ability of big men at your own risk. Khalil

(17:58):
Ware absolutely incredible pick number fifteen, awesome Summer League, numerous
double doubles. Was excellent in the Heat Summer League Championship
game win over Memphis. Scored over twenty points in that
game while getting a double double. Man, I know you
are plugged in into the Miami Heat. Khalil Ware, I
exceeded all your wildest dreams and expectations.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
He meant exactly what my expectations were. I thought he
was gonna be as good. I considered him one of
the I mean a lot of the people I follow
that are draft guys considered him one of the top
five to ten guys to draft just for value and
the Heat haven't had a center that they had Kelly

(18:44):
Olynnock for a while, but they haven't had a stretch five,
like a notable stretch five in the twenty seven years
i've watched the Heat. If you count Chris Bosh as
a five, you can count Christie, I guess. But other

(19:05):
than Chris Bosh, they haven't had a notable guy that
can shoot the three from the five positions.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
So yeah, I mean, I was so.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Happy when they picked him, and the fact that he's
performing really well and adapting to the NBA style already
just shows what a remarkable basketball player he is.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
But you guys already know that, so yeah, yeah, And
you also know that he fixed a lot of the
concerns about his motor and his energy and his effort
and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's thing of the very very very very distant past
where awesome incredible went way too low. Number fifteen was
a joke, especially in this draft class. He should have
gone in the top ten. That's why the bad franchises
are up there.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
If you ask me, that's exactly what I was about
to say. It's like it's a pick your It's not
even that. It's like almost like you don't want to
be drafted in the lottery. No, I'm not even lying
to you, because like the franchises that are up there
up there for a reason outside of like the Spurs, right, like,
because the Spurs are are good franchise that develops you.

(20:15):
But all the other franchises you look at, they go
like they never develop anybody, or if they do, just
want to leave right whereas the Heat develop you and
they win, right And this is one of those weird
years where they're just like kind of not like a
super late draft pick, and of course they get one
of the best for value draft picks dropped right into

(20:36):
the lap.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
So thank you, thank you, all of these stupid NBA franchises. Yeah,
Portland and Washington and you know, you know, teams like
that have just had a very tough time winning playoff series,
winning forty forty five to fifty games in the season.
Even after Portland struck gold with Lillard and McCollum, just
you know, they were never really able to exceed expectations

(20:59):
over the last you know, by six seven years, it was.
It was. It's pretty noticeable at the top when you
when you see a lot of the when you see
a lot of these teams like Atlanta picking there and
you know it's just like, all right, well what's the point.
But yeah, like you said, the Spurs are a proper,
proper organization and uh and you know, had Khil Whar
gone there, I would have been fine. But seeing him

(21:21):
go to Miami, my immediate reaction was, Okay, this should
work out. Even if he doesn't play thirty minutes a game.
It's it's a spot where he should he should really
get the bust out of his ability.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I'm trying to picture klo wear and when then Yama
sharing the same court together.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
That was my part of my thought, you know, because
it's kind of fun. San Antonio had two picks in
the top ten, and I was like, you know, the
best way, you know, especially now with Edie going up high,
Klingon going up high. It's partly because some of these
Western Conference teams are sitting here and saying, hey, maybe
we need somebody to slow down Victor one Binnama over
the next five years. Well, the best way to get

(21:59):
somebody off the off the team, you know, and not
slow your guy down by drafting him. Can't defend him
if he's on your team. So so you know, I
was like, maybe that would be a spot, but of
course they went and took Stefan Castle and uh and
uh yeah. Anyway, that's where That's where that ended up.
But awesome to see colil where dominate. It's a every

(22:21):
game he plays well. It helps Mike Woodson's recruiting pitch
over the next few years, as well as the assistant
coaches on his staff. So wa way to go. As
far as the developer intle team on Indiana side of things,
then you're seeing Colil Whear do massive things in the
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(23:03):
All right around the corner, Matt, let's keep value basketball
conversation going here. The schedule and the non conference side
of things came out. Deana knows every opponent on their
upcoming schedule for this twenty four to twenty five season.
We don't have times in TV yet for Big Ten games,

(23:23):
but we did hear that. At the end of the day,
Indiana's non conference schedule not too strenuous outside of a
home game against South Carolina and the Battle for Atlantis
in the Bahamas. As far as this non conference schedule,
mad Indiana did receive a little bit of criticism. Hey,
it was a little soft. It was this was that.

(23:45):
What are your thoughts observations as far as Indiana's non
conference slate going into this upcoming big upcoming season. Is
it soft? Yes? Am I mad that it's soft?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's that's my thoughts on it. Uh.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
The reason why I'm not mad about it being soft
is because, especially over the last couple of years, I
felt like, I, you had a really tough, non comfortable
From time to time, they've I just feel like they've
played a lot of high profile games, which I can't
be mad about because they're fun. But to be honest,

(24:26):
we haven't really won as many as I would like,
So those are always, you know, negative resume builders. And
then you add on to the fact that you're you
have a team full of a bunch of new guys
that have never played together, and you're working out all
those moving pieces, maybe playing tough opponents. The first couple,

(24:50):
you know, first couple of weeks into a season probably
isn't that great of an idea because you're going to be,
you know, at a disadvantage given the fact that you
don't have a lot of team chemistry yet. Right, So
I'm not mad at you know, the first couple of
opponents being cupcakes, and my couple mean a significant amount
of them being cupcakes. I'm okay with that. But with

(25:13):
that being said, like some of the teams that they
have on the schedule that people consider cupcakes are not
really cupcakes. Like the u n C is a UNC
Wilmington Greensboro and Greensburg bro Greensboro, Greensboro. The u n
C schools are always feisty.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
You've got chat chat, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
There's a couple of teams that they're not as bad
as people go, Oh, it's Miami of Ohio. It's like, no,
they're gonna be pretty decent. They're not at near the
level of Gonzago. They're not anywhere near the level of
opponent that Burdue is playing this year, Right, but but you.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Also should also Purdue, like you're not Purdue. You're not
as good as Purdue.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
You're not as the Yeah, you're not as you know,
as you don't have as much continuity as Purdue. I
think this team is better than produced team. Yeah, but
I don't think they don't.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
They don't know each other as well, right, And so
that's that's.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Why I'm okay with it being easy. I think if
a majority of the team, like, let's say both the
guards come back next year and you just bring back
a five, and you know, Trey Galloway returns for his
like twenty fifth year, but you.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Can't but maybe like, like let's just say he does
renew comes back.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Way, let's say this team has a lot of continuity
next year and they have the same level of non
conference opponent, I'd be like, all right, what's going on here?
But with them having to put so many moving pieces together,
I'm okay with the staff being like, all right, let's
take South Carolina at home, and let's go see what
we can do in the Bahamas. But they what they
need to do in the Bahamas is they need to

(26:59):
play one of Gonzaga or Arizona, And I think you
mentioned that before we brought on the podcast. But it's
true they need to play one of them. But they
don't have to win, they don't have to be as
good as they will be in March hopefully, but they
have to play them. They have to play them close.
They got to make it a game. Otherwise a conference
schedule looks like a pile of steaming dog crab.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
So yeah, exactly, and yeah, just real quick, what I
meant by Purdue is like, yeah, obviously you'll get the
preseason polls and whatnot. Yeah, Indiana, Purdue, neck and neck.
Indiana might even be ahead in some of these. But
from a program equity standpoint, right, Matt Painter can go
out schedule big teams. He knows that his team's going
to put up a good fight against whoever they play

(27:42):
in the non conference slate. Because Matt Painters really really
good basketball coach at Purdue has won more games than
any other Big Ten team in the last ten years.
Indiana is not that because when we tried to play
Auburn and we tried to play you Kin was absolute carnage.
Same with when we tried to play Arizona in a
one off in Vegas. So I like this strategy. In fact, honestly,

(28:05):
I would almost be even more extreme. I'm not sure
why we chose to play South Carolina, Like I'm like,
you know, why do you even have them on the slate? Frankly,
like why did we just replace them with you know,
whatever Mid Major or something? But whatever. South Carolina is
not a home and home series, so you just get
them at home and then you forget about them, so whatever,

(28:27):
fine with that. I would have preferred that South Carolina
game in Indianapolis if we are going to play them,
because you get more ten pound points for being a
team on a neutral site if it's semi neutral, rather
than getting them at home. But we're diving too deep
into the weeds there. Bahamas is going to be fun,
and I think it's a little bit deceptive because Battle

(28:48):
for Atlantis just takes up one line on the schedule
right now, when we all know that it's going to
be three important games that Indiana plays in November in
the Bahamas, and you might get one or two of
Arizona and Gonzaga, and then you look at the rest
of the field and West Virginia might end up sneaking
into the top twenty five. Louisville, Oklahoma. Can one of

(29:09):
those teams end up having a good season, I mean Louisville. Hello, anybody,
anybody awake there? Can we restore Louisville to basketball relevance
this year? And if so, you know, then the n
if they do play Louisville in like the first round,
for example, then you can maybe say they played three
top twenty five teams in the Bahamas. Who knows, but

(29:29):
it's all said and done, soft slate, That's exactly how
you should have played the game. The next part of
this is you've got to beat the bad teams on
your schedule by thirty plus points. Run up the score,
play the game, don't let the game play you go
out there, I don't care. I mean, the way the
system is set up now, it incentivizes running up the score.

(29:52):
It does not incentivize making mistakes and learning through them
and developing players. Right, So, if you're up by thirty
against SIU Edwardsville with ten minutes to go in the game,
do not play Jackai Newton, do not play Gabe Cubs,
do not play guys. At the end of your bench
lean into winning that game by fifty points because that helps.

(30:13):
And I know it's going to sound hard for some people,
but look, this is the system now. Sorry, that's just
the way it is. Yeah, And so you know, I
a perfect world, I'd like to limit Umar Ballo's minutes.
I'd like to limit Miles Rice's minutes. I'd like to
limit Kanaan Carlile's minutes and reward them for having a

(30:35):
very good twenty twenty five minutes against a team like
SIU Edwardsville or a team like Eastern Illinois. But that's
not the way the system is set up. I would
like for those guys now to play thirty two minutes,
make sure we go up by fifty points, make a
mockery of the game, and then their Ken Palm rating
will go up. So you know, you got to play
the game, don't let the game play you. Looking forward

(30:56):
to it. Where basketball season is very it's kind of crazy.
But if you feel like the election very weird, feel
is coming quickly, college basketball season starting before that, that's
coming quickly. You also have.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
College football is about one literally one month away. I
believe we are one month away from the first games
being played.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
In Ireland. Yeah, so here we are no pressure, a
lot a lot of fun about to get going as
far as as far as that that that world is concerned.
We're going to chat a little bit about football here
in just a second, but first it's a quick time
for a social media shout out once again, folks. You
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(31:46):
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(32:06):
to respond to when we can. Matt. College football season
is here. Fall camp start in the next couple of weeks.
Kurt Signetti is going to speak to the media at
Big Ten Media Days on Thursday here in the US.
It's going to be exciting. This Indiana team has a
preseason over under a five and a half wins. But

(32:27):
when you look at the Big Ten preseason poll that
was released, Indiana came in seventeenth. Indiana. Actually, when you
compare the pole standing to the preseason over underwing totals
actually came in the preseason poll as the most underrated
team into Big Ten, while other overrated teams include USC
include Wisconsin, Northwestern matt I know we're all excited about

(32:53):
this upcoming football season. I know we all think Kurt
Signetti has his team headed in the right track before
the actual games. Again, as this summer winds down, fall
camp about to get underway media days tomorrow, what are
you excited most? As it at least to IU football
on the Big Ten football landscape in general.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
So for IU football, I'm looking forward to seeing all
the new guys. I mean, we have one of the
better transfer classes according to PFF, maybe one of the
best transfer classes in the entire country. And you know,
given the fact that I've been playing the New College
Football Game incessantly over the last you know, has been

(33:37):
like a week or two weeks since it came out,
over the last however long it's been since it came out,
it feels like forever ago. Yeah, I've gotten used to
playing with the roster and it's fun. Elijah Sarah, it
is awesome. Curtis Rourke is pretty good. Donald mccully's a beast.

(34:00):
We're talking about this guy, but Miles Price before we
started the show.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
It's so broken in that game. He's so good at
D'Angelo Pond's and.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Every single one of my dynasties, like I've played through
now two dynasties now where I only played like five
or six years in the future or whatever, but on
my second one, uh, and he gets to ninety nine. Overall,
he's just an absolute beast. And that's she comes to
no surprise of anybody who's seen him play for JM. You.

(34:32):
So I I'm very excited to kind of see where
this team goes. And it's weird because when you look
up and down this roster, I think one of the
stronger position groups actually the D tackles.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I don't remember the last time that I you.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Even when they had Kevin Wilson and the offensive line
was supposed to be like the bread and butter of
the team, it never actually was the best position group
on the team. You could argue the best position group
on this team is.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
The D tackles.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
That could be something that you could argue. And so
I winning a football in football on the interior is
not something I expected to see. This year litlone ever
right ever, So I just want to appreciate this team

(35:24):
while we have it. I know that you said the
over unders five and a half. I'm honestly surprised it's
not higher. I know that they ranked the seventeenth in
the preseason polls, which is bs by the way, because
I just don't think people know enough about our roster.
But like if if big if, but if a lot
of the major contributors can stay healthy, I don't see

(35:47):
why this team can't win seven games. If you look
at the schedule, there's some very very winnable games, including
the first eight games of the season I think are
extremely winnable. There is a there is a universe where
Indiana is eight and o heading into what a home
game against Ohio State Washington? I think it's the Washington

(36:10):
Oh yeah, sorry, sorry, road It looks like road game
against Michigan State is what we're looking at here.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
And then and then Michigan, Michigan heading into the state.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, you could be eight and oh heading into a
road game at Michigan.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
So it's a road game.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
It's a real game, yeah, Michigan State, Yeah, correct, Yeah, yeah,
so our road game at m s U, which is
not unheard of to me and not I don't think
it's impossible. I I I could see that happening, so
I can't wait. Of course they could roll out Game
one and get you know, and choke choke the bed,

(36:50):
and then all of a sudden, we we really have
a depressing podcast for the next couple of months.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
But I don't see that happening. Yeah, Florida International and
Western Illinois at home to start the year, and then
we all know the two really big pivot games are
at UCLA in Week three and then home Maryland in
week five, and so by the end of September you
get a really good feel of where this team is at.
I mean, the last two seasons, Indiana has had a

(37:15):
very tough time figuring out who they are as a
football team until November. Because remember two seasons ago, Dexter
Williams took over at quarterback at the end of the
year and I was like, wow, this is uplifting. Jayalen
Lucas showed up on the freshman depth chart and Tom
Allen was like, wow, maybe we should try to play
him more. And then, of course last season you fire

(37:37):
Walt Bell in the middle of the year. You have
a revolving door at quarterback, and we find out in
November that Brennan Soresby and Donovan McCauley are this unstoppable
duo as far as quarterback and receiver are concerned. You've
got to figure out who you are from week one,
and with fall camp starting the next couple of weeks,

(37:57):
I'm looking forward to seeing Kurt Signetti's plan coming out
of the gates. Yeah. I like your comment on the
roster though. It's a very very good point. Indiana is
very strong. I know it's hard, I know it's awkward
to say, but Indiana is very strong on the offensive
line of the defensive line this season, especially relative to
previous IU programs. Because then you talked about Kevin Wilson

(38:17):
built the offensive line. You had Jason Spriggs, you had
Dan Feeney a few other guys in there, but the
defensive line wasn't all that great. Tom Allen had a
few great defensive linemen over the course of those great
seasons in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. Of course, Jerome
Johnson is somebody that I remember off the top of
my head. You had some good pet good pass rushers.

(38:41):
Ryder Anderson had a very good year in his one
year at Indiana, but Combo was lacking the offensive line
defensive line both being good. And I know, you're like Niftan,
none of these guys have played all that much at IU.
You're right, but Mike Caddick is someone that has a
lot of respect around the league. Carter Smith is someone
that everyone wanted when his name was in the portal

(39:05):
real quick and getting some of the considerations there from
teams across the country. And you don't know them now,
but Mikhail Kamara, CJ West, James Carpenter, like, these are
guys that you're gonna know real quick, especially after the
first couple of weeks of the season. So it's gonna
be really fun to watch this team. I'm really curious
to hear Churz Signetti's comments. What is he going to

(39:28):
emphasize early on in the fall camp period once he
gets upset early on in the season. His comments coming
up Thursday during Big Ten media Days. Mad at the
top of the league, you've got teams like Ohio State, Oregon,
Penn State, Michigan, Iowa, Nebraska, USC, Maryland, and then the

(39:51):
team that made the College Football Playoff final in Washington.
What stands out to you about the top of this league?
You know DC national title can tender. Do you see
how many teams do you see potentially in the CFP
or is it too early to tell? Even now? I
think this is my hot take.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
This will also get everybody off my back for being
a closet Michigan fan. I I think Michigan is going
to take a significant step back.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Not having hardball, losing JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Wilson, lost a lot of they lost the Roman Wilson,
they lost a lot of guys. They lost a lot
of guys on the national champion. They're going to take
a step back significantly. I I would not be surprised
that that Michigan team seven and five, eight and.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Four the season early in the season. Tough game.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
It's a really good Texas team. It would be good
for the Big Ten, for us for them to win
that game. I know it hurts some people to, you know,
think about Michigan winning football games, but it would be
good for the resume builders for the conference if they
can win that game.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
But I don't think they will.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I was about to say I think this Ohio State
team might be one of the best college football teams.
They could, they have the potential to be one of
the best college football teams ever. Wow, And I just
want you to let that sick sit in. I think
on both ends of the ball, I think they have

(41:33):
NFL players in almost every single position.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
So you know, it reminds me a lot of the.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Two thousand and one Miami Hurricanes LSU in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Like, I think a lot of these guys were gonna
sit there and look back on this Ohio State team
and go, why weren't they more prohibitive favorites than they
already are.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
I think he might not guess, Yeah, that's that's the guy.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
And I'm a little he's I was gonna say. I
think he's gonna be solid. So I don't think they're
gonna ask him to do too much. They guy, he's
got so many playmakers around him.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I mean, they have two potential.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
NFL running backs in the same backfield. They have pretty
much an NFL offensive line, pretty much a defense an
NFL defensive line. They might have the best player pound
for pound in college football lining up at safety for them,
and and so Caleb Downs, Yeah, so they they have

(42:41):
a squad Oregon's Nope, not a team to scoff at either.
I mean Dylan Gabriel is their former Oklahoma quarterback, former
UCF quarterback now at his third school. Is they're playing,
they have talent all over the place. They're built like
a Big ten team like Oregon's. The strength of Oregon's

(43:02):
team is their line play right and and and running
the ball, which is surprising to some people given that
it's an Oregon team, but it's true. Uh, they're gonna
be good from from from the jump.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
And of course you cannot forget on that Oregon squad.
You have former who's your legend, Matthew Bedford slated and
we start on the offensive line for their guys. So
that's right.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Was Matt Bedford?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Did he go to Colorado?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
He did?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
But then there was like change in his uh in
a situation he realized he rolled out of bed one
morning and realized, Wow, Oregon is an actual professional, proper
football program compared to Colorado.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, yeah, I remember him committing to Colorado, being like
why Matt, and then he went to he went to Oregon.
But yeah, like Oregon and in Ohio State are the
cream of the crop as far as it comes to
the big ten, and there's I think there's a pretty
big gap after that.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, and that's where I'm kind of excited to see
how things go because I agree. And then I'm like, wait,
could you get third place Indiana? Like like that's where
I know it's a little not that's not like, that's
not that crazy though, because I look just in general, folks,

(44:32):
after you know, having watched college football now for I
would say intensely for like fifteen to twenty years, it's
you're better off being you know something like you're better
off being a little bit more pessimistic. That's a good
rule of thumb early in this season. But then again,

(44:53):
I look at the third, fourth, fifth, sixth place teams
in this league, and I'm just sitting here and I'm going,
Drew Aller, We're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna really buy
into Drew Aller after what happened last year. But it's
it's it's it's.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Not even needing to buy into Drawler. It's that Indiana
has a favorable schedule like that. That's a combination of
every part. It's a combination of everything.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
And and look I understand that Tom Allen did a
lot of good things at Indiana, but I actually thought
Penn State could have aimed higher with your defensive coordinator position.
I'm not sure how confident me I am, but I'm
not sure how confident I am in their offense. And

(45:42):
it's speaking about lacking confidence in offenses, like Iowa deservedly
fifth in the preseason poll. But I'm sitting here and
going cade McNamara Brandan Sullivan. We've seen both guys play
quarterback in the Big Ten, and neither of them have
ever sniffed like all Big Ten honors, you know. I mean,
we know how much better Michigan got after Kid McNamara left.

(46:05):
You know that a couple of seasons ago. They're gonna
be fine. I was gonna be fine. Indiana doesn't play them.
But I'm sitting here and I'm going come on, like
it's there, It's there for the taking. You know. I
look at Nebraska and I'm like, eighth. I guess fine,
they could they could be a sneaky They could be

(46:26):
a sneaky team too. I Mean, I understand optimism with Nebraska,
but I'm just like, really, of course, Indiana beat Wisconsin
last year, and Wisconsin has an over under seven. They
came in seventh in the preseason Big Ten Media poll.
Washington is the team I think is a dark horse.
I look at Washington and I'm like, how are we

(46:48):
discrediting their college football playoff run in twenty twenty three,
And yeah, okay, lot of transition, a lot of turnover
on that team. But they went out and added Jed
Fish as their head coach, Like Jedfish knows what you're
doing on the football field, Like he knows what he's
doing running a program. Well, hell of all, he knows

(47:11):
what he's doing. He knows what he's doing x's and
know's was. I'm not sure. He's a very good pr guy.
But that's besides. I mean, he turned a team in
Arizona last year into a double digit win program. And
I've been begging Indiana to follow the blueprint of teams
like Kentucky, teams like Arizona, where you know you can
go out even if you're basketball first, and field a

(47:33):
very very competitive, exciting, electric football team. Will Rogers the quarterback,
I think we're getting close to that. By the way,
well Rogers is good. He's doing a million passes Mike
Leach wanted him. That's a good sign as far as uh,
as far as somebody who you know knows the quarterback, yeah,

(47:54):
r I P. But Mike Leach knows what and uh.
And I look at this Washington team, and defensively, I
think they might even be better than they were last year,
which if they can score, if Jed Fish can put
the ball in the end zone, even at sixty seventy
percent of the rate they did last year, the defense improves.

(48:17):
I mean, I don't see why they can't. And wisely,
Washington scheduled cupcakes early in their schedule to figure some
things out, make sure the depth chart is in order,
and then and then you know, once they really get
into the thick of their schedule, which really doesn't start
until week six, week seven, they'll have a better idea

(48:39):
of who they are as a football team. So as
I looked at that preseason poll, outside of singing Deiana
under rated at number seventeen, I said, Wow, we're gonna
put Washington at ten. It's not like they're completely decrepitive talent.
So I was surprised to see that. It's really exciting.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
I'm fired though, the depth at coaching in this conference
for football, I don't think. I mean, clearly it's never
been better because there's more teams. But really, I don't
think it's ever been better because if you go down
the list, Okay, Ohio state playoff head coach, unbelieving, Okay
playoff Oregon amazing playoff head coach. Uh, Michigan all right,

(49:22):
sure and more was the decordinator on but they're the
defending national champions.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
They get passed. But but TVD on that one.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Uh, Penn's Nebraska, Well, Penn State first, not a not
a perennial, a guy that wins ten games perennially.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Everywhere every Iowa Nebraska, USC.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Iowa is always in the Big Ten championship game. USC
has a playoff head coach. Uh, Nebraska playoff No, no,
NFL head coach.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
You have? You have?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Wisconsin has a former uh you know, former playoff off coach.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Uh. You just keep going down the list.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
The guy.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Really good.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Never made no, Wisconsin never made the playoff.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Wisconsin never made the playoff.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Wisconsin's never made the playoff.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Okay, So the next year, which is the Rose Bowl champs,
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, really good?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I mean the Big Ten it's as a whole has
only gotten what three teams in Michigan, Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
And Michigan State.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Those are the three teams that have made the made
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
From the Big Ten, and you include Washing the part
of that.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Aren't a part of the new saying are not a
part of the new additions because then you can put Oregon, Washington.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
But but not us.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
We just need to think about see like USC has
a playoff coach, Well, they got a playoff coach.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
And then to your point, like the coaches in the
bottom half of the conference are or preseason bottom half
of the conference are very good. And you talked about Beilama.
But like Greg Chiano coached in the NFL, he knows
what he's doing. At Rutgers, PJ. Fleck was one of
the hottest names in college football for a time there,
and he's gonna feel a decent teas on a terrible job.
Minnesota a rat right now if you ask me. And

(51:19):
then David Brown at Northwestern was the coach of the year,
wasn't he? Like I mean, he's he's the guy who
took a program in complete tatters at this point last
year and turned them into a to a very competitive,
very impressive college football team last year, And yeah, the
over under is going to be low again this year.
But Northwestern they're going through some crazy stadium construction right now,

(51:43):
but that's gonna be another team that you can't ignore.
Deshaun Foster we'll see at u c l A. Jonathan
Smith will see at Michigan State, but I'm sitting here,
and Ryan Walters, we'll see at Perdue. But like, this
is a this is a situation where even the bottom
of the league, you're like, WHOA like these guys coach
to the NFL. These guys coached in the CFP. I'm sorry,

(52:05):
these guys coached in you know, big bull games. They
built programs, they had some traditional winning. Like, it's going
to be really, really tough in this league. I really,
I really like the additions, even if some of the
matchups are going to be a little strange to say
the league, starting with Indiana going to the Rose Bowl
in Week three.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, I would argue with Saban leaving college football in
general that now the Big Ten has the best coaching
talent as far as the two leagues go.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
From Harball left too, who's the best coach in your
Who are the three best college football coaches.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
For you.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Kirby smart one. I don't think it's quite close. I
think number two. I might put Dan, I might put
I might put.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Dan Lanning there. Wow, I can't hate.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I think he's a really I think he's I think
he's thinking for the future of college football. He's so
good at what he does. And then third, yeah, you
got sorry, No, I think I think Ryan Day is above.

(53:19):
I think Days above, Yeah, I I I think Days above.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Everybody else there?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Well, yeah, I think it's Landing Day and.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Kirk Barn Kirk.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Farence honestly does a remarkable job, but he's too loyal
to his family. Uh yeah, I think that the next
guy is off that list, or like I love Norm Belle.
I think Norm Bell is really good. Dabbo is probably
somewhere on that list. Yeah about him, Yeah, he's still good.

(53:58):
I've had a couple off years. There's still a good coach.
And then Deboor.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
But I think, you know, again, the.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Big ten, the fact that it's even close to matching
the SEC, like they've they've somehow managed to allow the
SEC to get Texas and Oklahoma. And I think we're
still the stronger conference.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Ah Alene Kiffin knows what he's doing. I guess Miszoo
is kind of a wild card. Tennessee is kind of
a wild card. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm still you have
like a you have eight former eight.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
But you have like six former playoff coaches in the
Big ten and the SEC has Debor Kirby Smart sark.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Uh, yeah, that's it. Kiffin did another game ever?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Make the No, Kiffin's never made it? Uh?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Did did?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Did? Oh?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
My god?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
What's his name at LSU?

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Brian Kelly? He did? Yes? When he? When did Brian Kelly?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
He did?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
So they are four, but they also can still have
like fifty, so it's like a billion every single time
they were in there. Yeah, their name never did well? Ever, God,
every time he made the playoff, everybody like, oh, they're
losing by fifty, and they lose by fifty.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
It was remarkable. I'm gonna go with Kirby Smart one.
Caylin de Boer too, and I think that three is
a wild chase. Who'd you who'd you have it to?

(55:50):
I had Dan Lanning and then you all said Ryan
Day out there. Yeah, I'm gonna give credit to Ryan Day.
I don't think he should be crapped on to losing
to Michigan. I think that's an acceptable Like everyone everyone
does not like Ryan Day losing to Michigan, understandably true.

(56:14):
I'm gonna sit here and that's okay, It's fine. I
still respect musical.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
When I when I when I'm thinking of of coaching,
By the way, I'm not just thinking of x's and o's.
I'm also adding in recruiting and running a program and
running an nil collective or twelve.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Uh what happened to Kyle? Like? Why why did Kyle
McCord start at quarterback last year? You know what? It's
the same thing as Mike Woodson not having a backcourt
last season. No, that's exactly what it is. I cannot
tell you, like what happened? Then? I can't. I I I.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Somebody I would I there there could be a thirty
for thirty on that, but there should be Like, how
how did you not get a transfer QB when you
have three three future NFL wide receivers three and and
and a high level offensive line, like you should have

(57:20):
been able to go and get the best quarterback transfer
on the market for cheap because You're like, if you
throw to these three guys, you could be the inverse
of Joe Burrow. You could go from whatever program you
want to Ohio State and and be an NFL QB,
where Joe Burrow would for Ohio State to whatever program

(57:40):
he wanted to became, you know, a former, a future
first overall draft pick. So yeah, I mean, you could
have gotten anybody to go to Ohio State. I'm pretty
sure you could have taken uh, here, here's a here's
a funny. You could have taken Richard Lago and put
him on Ohio State and they probably win ten games.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Like it is nuts. I I just don't understand what
the thought process.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I really hope Richard Lego doesn't listen to our podcast
just friendly. I hope this just never circulates back to him,
just like my coms about Justin Smith. A great arm, Yeah,
get a great arm. Just I'm not sure all the
marbles were stayed on the track up up top. He

(58:29):
would throw, you would make he would make some reads. No,
I was in the stands watching this dude make some
make some reads on on some coverage down the field,
and he would throw.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
It into four guys, And I'm like, come on.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
There's gotta be there's gotta be some sort of different
thing you could do in film study or or or
you could just not try throwing it into quadruple coverage.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
So so we're gonna get canceled after this. But you're
saying he was throwing the football like he was trying
to assassinate a former president. Look man, any final thoughts
as we wrap up here on this Wednesday night, afternoon,
everything Wednesday, just Wednesday. Jeez.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Uh yeah, just to just I don't know how I
can follow what you just said.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
But that's also that doesn't doesn't that getting shot six
months ago? Yeah for sure, Yeah doesn't it. It feels
like six months ago.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Where did you think I was going with that?

Speaker 1 (59:44):
We used to started started reaching it was my fault, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Anyways, Uh, life's good in China. Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I am really enjoying it here. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I can't wait for the Olympic Games starting up right now. Actually,
I think Olympic soccer is on as we speak.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I still use Bekistan tied it up with Spain.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Oh so the Euro the euro winners are on a
little bit of a hangover, getting tired tying with Uzbekistan
baby twenty five points if you can tell me right
now on a map where you use Bekistan's anyways, Yeah,
I'm excited for opening ceremonies or what Friday night for
you guys, It'd be Saturday morning for me, so it'll

(01:00:34):
be a good old grant. Well, I guess it was
Friday afternoon for you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Matt. The Olympics, the Olympics, I'm having a tough time
with them because you know here you you left this country,
but one candidate for presidency is getting shot at the
other one dropped out. Like there's there's a lot going on,
and we have big ten football media days going on
at the same time. So how much really attention? How

(01:01:01):
much attention can you really pay? They're the same thing,
They're the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Were the Olympics always at the same the same year
as the election?

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Yeah? I am I why except last time because of COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
But let's let's take one year vacation from having a
president and move it to a different year. It shouldn't
be the same summer as the Olympics. It shouldn't be
the same summer as the euros or the Copa America
and it should be the same summer as the FIFA
World Cup, so you have to put it on an
odd year exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
And it shouldn't be at the same time as Big
Ten Football media days and the NFL preseason like they've
got a really prime It should just never happen, you know,
stick them. What if I don't know, June, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
What what if we just took the United States and
made it one socialist commune and we all got to
sing Kumbaya around the fire and take a kobia some
amounts of psychedelic drugs and grow plants for each other.
Let's just have our own that way, we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
That's that's putting America.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
We'll have the we'll have the hot dog eating competition.
Nathan's one, right, so we'll just have that right as
part of it. We'll have a cheerleading cheerleading will be
part of it. Baseball football.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
And baseball Who can make the biggest splash in a
fool full of small children competition c FB fourth of July,
and uh, you know, it'll just be states competing against
each other, and you know you'll get you know, you'll
have like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Nebraska gym versus Florida, Jack Winter gets cold. Yeah, that's
really all I I mean, football season is here because
once big ten media days start, we are locked in
in preseason for the NFL is around the corner because
training camp is here. And if you all don't know,

(01:03:06):
I'm a Bears fan since I was zero years old.
And for the first time in my life, we have
a quarterback. And there aren't enough enough high expectations on
Caleb Williams. They cannot be high enough. Are we? Are
we sure what Cale Williams is that good? If he's

(01:03:27):
to me, he's a combination of Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady,
Johnny Unitas, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino and John Laway and
African American There you go. TBT was fun, really like that.
I want to see some more Aye you guys on

(01:03:47):
that team. And I don't care about how soft the
non conference schedule is. Win the games that you're playing.
And I cannot emphasize this enough. Run the score up,
do not do, not care about how guys develop. I
know it sucks, but eventually Jakai Newton will start for
this team and play thirty minutes a game and he
can be part of the next autem that runs the score,
which is the way it is, stay age like unless

(01:04:13):
they change the system, which I don't think they will.
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