Zoe Kravitz Not in The Batman 2, Tarantino Says 'Basterds" Is His Masterpiece - THE HOT MIC - The Hot Mic with Jeff Sneider and John Rocha

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, what's up? Everybody?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome to a live episode of Hot Mike Hero on
a Monday night.

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Is usually air hour long episode, so keep that in mind.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
This is officially the John Roka Channel, so I'm just
John Roka, regular ole John Roka here, joined us always
by the insider himself, Jeff Snyder.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
How are you, Jeff?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hello, Jenny boy, I'm the fucking outline now.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Bitch, there you go. Do you need some help with
that canel?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Long?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, you got it open? All right? Nice?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Jeff, let me to the alarm, the alarm to the lemon.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We got so much to get into today, so much
happening in the world of entertanerl. The last few we'll
talk about some Tarantino stuff, some Lord of the Ring stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Some Sharing so and stuff. We're going to get into
a tribute for Terrence Stamp.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
We got some Gal Gadot conversations to have and some
Joni Mitchell news which Jeff broke.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
And maybe James gun.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Little tidbit that I might toss in as Jeff's opinions
on these things.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
So we had so much get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Just a real quick reminder, stream labs superchets are open.
And as I said, this is an hour long show.
So if you want us to answer your questions, answer
your super chets or your stream labs, send them in
now so they are first in line to get answered
as when we get to that section of the show
near the end. So, Jeff, let's not waste anytime. Let's
jump into things here. Let's talk about this news of
Lord of the Rings. This actually happened over the weekend.

(01:42):
It was at a panel for London's for Love of
Fantasy event on Sunday Entertainment Weekly. Ian mccollin, who played
however Wizard Gandolf, said that Gandolf and Frodo will be
part of the hunt for Gollum. I hear there's going
to be another movie set Midlworth, he said, and it's
going to start filming in May. It's going to be
directed by Gollum, and it's all about Gollum. I'll tell
you two secrets about the casting. There's a character in

(02:04):
the movie called Frodo and there's another character called Gandalf.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Apart from that, my lips are sealed.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
He did not say if he would be playing Gold Gandalf,
and he did not say if Elijah would be returning.
So what do you make of this? Do you put
any weight behind this? And was this all craftily done
on purpose?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I mean, I don't think it's like a plan like
we're gonna have sir Ian go out and do an
interview and he's gonna leak the production start date or
something like that. Uh huh, I mean I don't. I don't. Again,
I'm not really like a Lord of the Rings guy.
I don't know what to make of it. What this
new movie? I know Andy Serkis is directing it, yes,
and and but what is it?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's a Lord of the Rings movie.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's kind of a Further Adventures of Galam movie, is
what it essentially is.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh, that's right, He's right, it's a Garbland movie. Okay,
So Frodo and Gandalf are gonna be in it? I
mean yeah, kind of didn't we assume that?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Or like, I don't know, it wasn't known whether anybody
was going to come back.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's called The Hunt for Gollum. It's for release on
December seventeenth of twenty twenty seven. It's produced by Peter
Jackson and his team will explore Gollum's story further and
just and is described as surprising yet faithful to the
token lore. So this is all kind of new territory,
so that there wasn't any given that anybody was coming
back to be a part of it. But the fact
that you're getting these two guys to come back and
reprise their roles, and they're pretty signature guys and actors

(03:22):
to play these characters.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I mean, those are the three main characters. I feel like, yeah, yeah,
for sure, as you would and Gandalf and Gollum. So
it all makes sense that the other two would be back,
particularly while you know, we are still lucky enough to
have sir Ian. Yes, you know, take advantage on while
you can. I don't know, you know, if how big

(03:45):
the roles are. I haven't heard anything to that effect.
I really haven't been asking much about Lord of the Rings. Yeah,
but yeah, to me, it's not surprising.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Do you think do you think it'll be them?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I mean, you know, Ian's a bit up there, Elijah
has put on some years. Do you think they would
return to play because if this is the further Adventures,
you could argue that they've aged along with Gollum from
the last appearance that he had in those Lord of
the Rings movies, And do you think this is also
them going like, well, we need and it needs a

(04:17):
little bit of help on the set, on the story,
and we need to get people to be interested in
the story, and we can't just sell it on Gollum.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Is Gollum like a character that's like hundreds of years
old or thousands of euro years old, you have a
normal human life span.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
He had it was a normal human and then became
what he became as Gollum, so he can kind of
converted into this thing that he became. And so I
don't know what the life expectancy of a Gollum.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
To me, Elijah Wood's frodo like what are we going
to do? Yeah, tar roto or like yeah, I feel
like it will be Elijah Wood and it will be
Sir Ian McCown. If it wasn't, I don't think Ian
McCollen would have mentioned it.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
But do you think this was this is you know,
I'm a bit cynical sometimes. Do you think this is
more of a sweet thing and they just wanted to
drop it as a surprise, or do you think that
there's their sensing that there's not like they're in what
you called their inner workings, are doing like tests and
there isn't that much interest in the you know, Lord
of the Rings movie without bringing back Ian McKellen.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Or I'm sure that that is what testing or research,
you know, data and audience research whatever indicates those are
two beloved characters. I know it. Even so even someone
on the outside really like myself, would be more interested
in seeing that movie with those two characters played by
those two actors specifically. So yeah, I think I think

(05:46):
somebody just asked Ian McKellen a question. He answered it honestly.
I don't think this is like some master plan.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, so this is the movie.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
We'll explore the period between Bilbo's Bilbo Bagans one hundred
and eleventh birthday and Frodo's departure from the Shire. The
plot will involve Aragrn and Gandalf and Tarra getting Gollum
about what he told Sorrow, and we'll conclude with Gandalf's
return to the Shire to warn Frodo. So yeah, that
sounds like maybe we're not going to get a lot
of scenes with Frodo and Gandolf, But is now Vigo Mortensen,

(06:15):
is he now on the clock as we to use
an NFL draft?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well turn question who? Well, first of all, who is
hunting Sniegel?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah? Who was hunting Schmigel?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, Robert Schmigel even Yeah, who was hunting Smigel?

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Robert Snegels? Yeah, Aragon. I think it would be a
big character in the story. Yeah, and I would assume
that Vigo would also be back again. I just do
you really see, like I haven't. I certainly haven't gotten
that from like just the feeling out there, like oh,
Frodo or Aragon Gun is an open rule. Yeah in Hollywood.

(06:52):
I haven't gotten that impression.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, I mean I neither because I didn't know they
were all coming back, possibly with Aragorn maybe as well.
But like this is there younger in their years in
the story. So are you deaging the three of them
or are you? I mean, you can't recast the three
of them for God's sakes, because.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
You're saying this is before So this is yes, like.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
In between yeah, before Fellowship of the Ring. So would
we be I.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Don't then I in that case, I don't know. I
didn't I didn't realize what the time period.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
You can if you're if you're keeping it in Cannon
and you're keeping the same actor as Gollum, but you're
going back to a time just before Fellowship of the Ring.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't think you can, uh not. I don't think
you can recast. I think you have to, d Age.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think you can easily, d Ian McKellen.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, not that.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I really just don't see who they're going to recast
and off. That seems insane to me.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, I don't disagree with you that.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, they can just get him and paint some wrinkles
out or whatever. Frodo. I guess that's tougher to do.
If you're telling me that it has to be set around.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Then air going too. I mean, like, you know, he
goes sixty, bro, he goes sixty bro. So know, we'll see,
but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
But I like this.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
You know, I'm not the biggest fan of the Lord
of the Rings movies. I like the Hobbit series more
than the Lord of the Rings movies. But that being said,
I liked I know, these characters are great and people.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
My dh instead of recast, that's what I think.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
It seems smart.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Let's move into some politically fraud conversation here. Jeff gal
Ganoates was in an interview here with Israeli Television talking
about what happened with Snow White. She said, I really
enjoyed filming that movie. It really had fun, even working
alongside Rachel Zegler. We laughed and we talked, and we
laughed and we talked and we had fun. I was
positive the movie was going to be a huge hit,
and then October seventh happened, and what happened all over

(08:36):
in different industries, not just Hollywood. There was a lot
of pressure put on celebrities, actors, creators to post against Israel,
and it happened. I can always explain and try to
give people in the world context about the situation and
the reality in Israe, and I always do that, but
at the end, people make up their own minds. And
I was disappointed that the movie was incredibly affected by
all of that and that it didn't do well at
the box office.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
But it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
You win, somebody lose some Now a lot of people
Jeff accused her of blaming her political stance and the
troubles of what happened on October seventh for the film
bombing so she had to clarify on Instagram earlier today
and said, I was honored to join an.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Extraordinary interview with aspiring interviewers, but sometimes.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
We respond to questions from an emotional place. When the
film came out, I felt that those who are against
Israel criticized me in a very personal, almost visceral way.
They saw me first and foremost doesn't as rarely not
as an actress. That's the perspective I spoke from when
I answered the question. Of course, the film didn't fail
solely because of external pressures. There are many factors that
determine why film succeeds or fails, and success is never guaranteed.

(09:35):
Who boy, did she do a backstep on that one? Jeff,
your thoughts on this?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, I think people, I think she's what do
you mean like, I think she said nothing wrong?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
You think do you really think October seventh affected the
movie's box office?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
That's nonsense.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
No, no, I don't think that, okay, But.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
That's what she initially said, was that the October said
the thing happened and everyone was forced to say negative
things about Israel. She was pro Israel, and so people
didn't come see the movie. Because she was pro Israel,
and she didn't go into the fact that, you know,
she didn't take into cat that maybe she was terrible
in the movie, maybe the movie was terrible itself. She
was essentially blaming that it was other people.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yes, yeah, no, I think that that's bs. I think
that the movie didn't work for a variety of reasons.
Part of it is that she is not a draw. Yes,
Rachel Zegler is not really a draw.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
No, not yet.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
We've seen countless snow white movies. Yes, we're Disney fairy
taled out. I think at this point I didn't notice
know what was like new or different about it and
what was new or different The Dwarves was not good, yes, right,

(10:56):
you know, I don't think it helped. I don't think
that her comments, which made her more divisive and did
maybe people thought of her who thought of her as
wonder woman started like she said, I do think that
she's right in this regard, just started to look at
her as Israeli before she's even an actress or a
movie start. It's just you know, the fucking Israel. Israeli

(11:18):
a you know, a mouthpiece essentially, And yeah, I do
think that that dominated the conversation because the media are
lemmings for the most part, and that became the conversation
instead of the movie, instead of her performance. And yeah,
the movie tanked.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
But then when the movie came out, the conversation was
about how bad the movie was and was about how
bad her performance was. So that's the thing I think.
I think you can have any political stance you want.
If the film or the show is good, people will
go see it, especially something like snow White.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
But the reason people saw her in a certain way.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is because she was at being outspoken in a certain way,
and that is what ended up causing a consequences exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Like if you want to be the mouthpiece essentially for
like Israel, be the most famous Israeli actress, then yeah,
that's gonna backfire on you. Sometimes I think that she
is right, it's it's a wins losm. It's not her fault.
I don't think it's her fault at the movie tanked.
I think that they kind of share the blame. The

(12:23):
blame goes three ways, really, but.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think I think she does bear some fault here
because she's not a good actress and that she wasn't
a good performance and I think you could blame the
director for sure. And if you want to look at
it politically wise, you know, Rachel was outspoken on the
different but pro Palestine. She was pro Israel gal Gadot,
so that I give you one hundred percent. But she

(12:46):
does factor in the movie not doing well because she
was not good in the movie, and the movie itself
was not that good.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
But Zegler, everybody prays Zegler. She was damn good in
the movie. So she came out of it unscathed.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So I would say I wouldn't say she came out
of it unscathed. It's a pretty big blemish as far
as like a movie star track record goes. Yeah, I
just don't. I don't let things dictate my decisions. Things
like that dictate my decision to see a movie. I
you know, I would assume that not a lot of
people do, but I guess if you're watching like Fox

(13:19):
News every night, maybe you do.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I just think if if the movie was good, it
wouldn't have mattered. That's what I mean. Like, if the
movie was good, nobody would have cared.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
If that's the thing, John, you don't know opening like
it takes until after opening weekend for the word to
get out there publicly. Gleed to critics and Twitter and
things like that. It didn't open because it didn't look good.
The marketing was bad. Yes, me to show up to
a press streating.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Right, right, right, Yeah, yeah, I don't disagree.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I remember Actually I think I think maybe it was
Manson and we were talking about it and he was like, yeah,
I'm seeing snow White tonight. I'm pretty sure it was Mance.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
It was like why and he's like, well, you know,
because we were invited. That's what we're supposed to do,
is show up see new movies. And I guess, like, like,
what is what is the point of going? Maybe it
was you. It might have been you that we had
that I had this conversation.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I went to see it because I but I don't
always go to movies. I'm invited to us, so I
don't think I would have said that as a reason.
But it might have been Mance. But I I was
hesitant to go, and I didn't go to the last minute,
and when I went, the only reason I enjoyed anything
in the film was that was Zegler's me.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
It didn't look at it nothing to do with their
political stances or find both of them.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Just wasn't a good movie. Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
But like, and that's further proof, like why why speak
about this? Like that's the thing you have to come
to terms with, is like if you're going to be outspoken,
and you know what, you and I are both outspoken,
Like we have to take the lumps to try to
to try to avert that or ignore that or not
factor that into the reason why some people react to
their way.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I think is is not a smart move in the
long run. But anyway, all right, let's move on.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
To some legendary conversation here or Jeff, this is kind
of big news every time we turn around Paramounts doing
something massive and apparently Legendary Entertainment is in early talks
to partner with Paramount on theatrical distribution of its film Slate,
the production from behind Minecraft Movie and Doing had been
under contract that Sony Pictures after cutting ties with Warner
Brothers in twenty twenty two. However, the multi year deal

(15:19):
at Sony expired at the end of twenty twenty four,
and they've kind of been a free agent, working with
Netflix and Universal and various projects. So This could be
interesting because you've got what doing part two in Minecraft,
which I imagine they won't touch. But there are other
projects coming down the pike here that they could be
involved in, you know, for example, the Innity two film,

(15:40):
doing part three. So it's unclear right now which which
projects they Wouldartner on. But what do you think about this?
Is this yet another move my Warner brothers to really
kind of become the big dog in the room.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Here by Warner Brothers, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I'm sorry, yeah, Parao.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I mean, you know, I think Legendary has been a
part to some big projects and they control some interesting
ip Yeah, Like you know, Paramount needs movies right now,
especially since the last year, like we've said, held off
on green lighting so many big, big things because they
had to wait for David to show up basically and
say all right, this is the direction we're gonna take this,
this is the director we'll take that. Yeah, they need movies,

(16:20):
and Legendary is, you know, obviously one of the strongest
producers in town. They're not getting the top titles, like
you said, they're not getting the Dunes, they're not getting
the Monster Verse movies. It doesn't just move over there
this output deal, but you know there will be other
stuff and so yeah, I think it's a win for Paramount.
I don't know what this means for like the lions

(16:41):
Gate talks of it all.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Oh yeah, right, Like.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I guess it was, like was it more about Lionsgate
acquiring Legendary or Legendary acquiring lions Gate?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
I thought it was. I thought it was Lionsgate acquiring Legendary.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Okay, fair enough, I mean it maybe it'd be interesting
if if Ellison get Warner Brothers and then made made
a move on line Skate or something.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I don't know, Well, that could be interesting.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
What does this tell you, man, You've got the Duffer Brothers,
You've got the James Mangold situation. Then Allison brought in
Josh Greenstein the President's Only Pictures and Dana Goldberg to
revitalize the studio.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
So these are massive moves. And if they make a
move and.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Get get Legendary to be in business with Tom Cruise
for the Innu film, I mean this could be interesting
moves here from Paramount moving very quickly to be like
a bigger footprint.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
In your EATA movie. Though is Warner Brothers.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, but no, Legendary will released an untitled but no,
but didn't they move that over?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Like they didn't give them the what's is it fully
there that they're going to partner with?

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Those are the carbouts?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Okay, okay, so yeah, no crew that that's definitely a
Warner Brothers all right. You know, like here's an example.
Isn't like that Sydney Sweeney Gundam movie?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Oh yeah, yeah with uh yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
A legendary movie. Okay, I don't know if that's at Amazon?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
What about Duke newm Right, that's one.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Right, So like those are the kinds of projects that
could now wind up at Paramount that that legendary has
been developing.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I got a bit confused there, But yeah, that would be.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Interesting to see see. I think I think it's a
win for Paramount. I like how aggressive they're being right now.
I like that they went out and got the Daffer Brothers.
Deffer Brothers are going to be huge. I've told you
they've been on a lot of lists for stuff around town,
especially with you know, they said to wait for them
to finish with Stranger Things. They have two new shows
coming out to Netflix next year. Both of them sound
pretty interesting to me. And they're gonna be doing a

(18:44):
live action spinoff of Stranger Things. But yeah, I think
they want to get back to the big screen. Right.
They tried a big screen to do with Alexander scars
Garden Andrea Riseborow about a decade ago. It was not
very good. It get like, you know, sat on a
shelf for years until it got so I think it
they have a chip on their shoulder and something to
prove on the big screen. And that's why they ended
up going with Paramount over Netflix, because Netflix, you know,

(19:07):
even if they give you theatrical, it's like a two
week you know, cursory sort of deal. That's just not
their business model, which I understand, I respect, but yeah,
the Duffers have to do what's best for them.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
And yeah, would they have to buy the whole thing?
Like would they have to buy all of Legendary and
then they would get the all of Legendary's IP or.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Just an Aubus it's a distribution?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Is this the first step?

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Like?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
If they get the distribution, does it start looking like
they could possibly purchase down the road? I know a
merger just happened, but could it be something they'd explore
we see all.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
These student listen. Paramount can now certainly outbid Lionsgate. If
lions in the Legendary, then there's no you know, Paramount
could do the same thing. But like Legendary and sky
Dance were very similar to me, So Paramount just picked
up sky Dance essentially and integrated them into everything. Right,
you know, they need Legendary, you know, they just need

(20:03):
a short term deal until basically they can get up
and running themselves. That's why I liked it. Like, you know,
Legendary has that Animal Crossing movie. That's another carve out
from the deal that was originally and then like Sony's
deal with Legendary yielded like nothing, I don't know what
it yielded, and so Legendary just moved over to Warner Brothers.

(20:24):
It was a better fit anyways.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, all right, we'll see what happens. But Paramount keeps
stopping around the yard. Now, man, everybody's better get ready.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
For sure they have money now again. The last few
years they've been the low studio on the tote bol
because they've been hamstrung and operating with one hand tie
by their back. Now they have a guy who's flushed
with cash and looking to spend it.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Must suck to have been an executive and high ranking
over their paramount and now eating the last few years
trying to make it work, and then you get kicked
out once they get money, Like, oh, you.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Know, you're just yeah, you're just waiting for them to
come in and shop. Yeah. Oh they got paid handsomely.
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, they're a golden perishing. Let's move on to this
real quick.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
James gunn was all was being interviewed about the upcoming
Superman film, and he's now saying this was with Collider.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I think Christina Radish did this interview. She said, he.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Said, we're scheduling it now. I'm totally done with the treatment.
My treatments are incredibly intense. They're not My treatments are
incredibly intense. They're not regular treatments. There's sixty bad treatments
with dialogue and everything, and so now I'm just turning
that into a script. We're planning out when we're going
to shoot that. It's going to be much sooner rather
than later. So now we wrapped to sixty page treatments. Jeff,

(21:33):
what is happening here?

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Hey, when you're the head of the studio. You get
to make your own rules.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I guess, I guess.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I just love how trumpy and it's better than anything's
the bettert best treatments, these unusual treatments.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
These are normal treatments. These are sixty page in depth treatments.
There's dialogue, We got everything. I mean, you know, it's
it's nice to know that he's down the line with
the script. Although you know treatment, that's that's an early
part of the process. So I don't know how far
how long we are.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Don't you explain that the other day on the show,
like treatment outlined and then you get the screenplay. So
but it seems to me like he's jumping a few
steps that the treatment's going to go write the screenplay,
and then there we go the fact that they're looking
to schedule it already. You know, it seems odd considering
is the script will be done and is he bullshitting
us like it doesn't already have the script done and
he's just saying things now and again he.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Can move stuff forward while he's still writing the script
and working it out because everything's in his head right right, right,
and he can say, you know, it's not like you're
a director and you're like, I haven't written it yet,
but I have to convince the studio had to spend
X amount, right, you know He's like, well on the
studio ahead. Yeah, yeah, I'm convinced, you know, we can
go ahead and start preproduction. And I've got, you know,

(22:51):
six months before an actor has to deliver a line.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I think it's it's a fascinating situation the way
it's all going, and he's handing the meat. The information
is not piecemeal, but I think it's some of the
comments that are really fun to focus on. So, all right,
anything anything more on James Gunn or DC. Have you
got anything Jeff?

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Something? Okay? Is that the James gun thing you wanted
to mention?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
That was the little thing? Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
The sixty page treatment to me is just madness. I've
never heard of such a thing.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I've got way better stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oh, please bring it on. What do you got?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
All right? So last weekend or last week or whenever,
there was a junket, yes, for a movie called cot Stealing.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, with Austin Butler, right.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Darren Aronofsky. Yeah, and apparently I you know, I have
spies all over, John, I know you do. One of
my spies was doing interviews at this junket, and apparently
the representatives for Zoe Kravitz or whatever, whether it's the

(23:58):
movie or for Zoe Kravitz, they instructed the press don't
ask Zoe any questions about The Batman Part two. She's
not in it and she doesn't know anything. WHOA, that's
a quote.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Don't ask her any questions, but she's not in it
and she doesn't know anything. So Catwoman is not in
The Batman Part two, even though she was.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Only six people on the planet read the script. I've
read the script or just guessing. Don't worry about what
everybody else thinks. Okay, there's only worry about the six
people anyways. So I'm not saying this. I'm not reporting this, Yes,
just cassing along what the other journalists at the cot

(24:47):
stealing junket we're told. Don't bother asking Zoe anything. She's
not in it, she doesn't know anything.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Wow, if you remove a Catwoman, it seems like there's
a space for a Robin or someone there to help
the Batman.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Because she helped the Batman in the first movie.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
It feels like maybe someone could be sliding in there
to take that spot.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I don't know. I mean, listen, Calluman. When she was
played by Michelle Pfeiffer. How many movies was she in
John one? She was played by Anhathway. How many movies
was she in?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
John one?

Speaker 3 (25:20):
So maybe this is just Calluman tradition, you do want.
I thought it was sort of setting up her in
more installments. But if you're doing a big time jump,
maybe something's happened to Calluman. Who knows? And maybe this
is also a lie just to get depressed to be
good little boys and girls and not ask any questions
that they have every right to ask at a junket, right, right,

(25:43):
But this is what was relayed to them, That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Well, yeah, maybe they were afraid she would spoil something,
or like you said, maybe they were maybe they were
like trying to make it clear that, you know, don't
ask her anything about it because she really isn't in it.
And that's fascinating to me that you would say that
to junk at people.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
And said earlier our friend Alan's right, he is joking that.
James Gunn just tweeted Cat Woman's in the movie, right exactly,
I'm sure he has minions watching.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
What of course I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
You know, James and I are gonna get brunch one day.
We're gonna we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
You and James Gunn.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
All right, James one day?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
How tall you leave me out of this? How dare
you leave me?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
You live in San Diego, my friend? When I stars,
I'm still waiting for you to come up on a Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I'll get it an F one car if it means
we get a lunch with James Gunn please?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
All right?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Well, what else do you have? Anything else? Is that?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
A is.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Mouth? All that you said you've got? You said you've
got other James gun stuff? Is there anything else?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
You go? That's all I said? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
All right? All right, that's good stuff. I like that.
That's good stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
So no catwoman knows Zoe Kravitz and the Batman part too.
That's the That's that's what apparently has been been said.
He so we will see. All right, let's move on
to another story here.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Oh yeah, let's talk about this.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Sharon Stone's got some comments Jeff Sharon Stone talking about
Basic Instinct, that one that Joe hester House is apparently
doing again she was on the Today Show promoting Nobody,
to which sadly underperformed to the box office, and when
she was asked about the movie that is supposedly being
worked on this reboot, she said, I mean, go ahead,

(27:28):
but good fucking luck, she said with a laugh, and said,
if the reboot goes the way the one that I
was in went, which is the second basic instinct, I
would just say, I don't know why you would do it.
And when asked why she was being so open in
her speaking with such candor, she said, I'm at that
stage of my life where I already retired once and
I already died a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm like, what are you gonna do? Kill me again?
Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
You know what, Now I want her back in the movie.
For fuck's sake. Now I want her in the movie.
That's pretty badass. What you think about a commentary?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I mean I liked her and Nobody too. I mean,
like one of my friends was like, oh, this is
like a horrible performance, like an all time bad performance.
I kind of like that she vamped it up, right.
I don't know that I want to see somebody else's
Catherine tremil You.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, no, I do not. I do not. She's too good.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
There's no there's no one right now in Hollywood with
Sharon Stones like sexy charisma that she had back then.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
No one.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
There is no one that I can think of that
I've seen. Don't give me a seat, Sweeny.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I just know I just don't buy someone else's Catherine Tremmelle.
Like you'd have to change the character's name or like
completely redo the script that that esther house has in mind,
because without her, yeah, yeah, it just it doesn't really
feel like basic instinct.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Almost.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Speaking of Joe, apparently Joe watches our show, because Joe
had comment about one of my comments. He said, he said,
it's in a statement to those who question what an
eighty year old man is doing writing a sexy, erotic thriller,
The rumors of my cinematic impotence are exaggerated in agist.

(29:15):
I call my writing part of the twisted little Man,
and he lives somewhere deep inside of me. He was
born twenty nine, he will die twenty nine, and he
tells me the sky's high.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
His sky's high. Up to write this piece.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
And provide viewers a little wild and orgasmic ride that
makes me very hap.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I do remember that quote because you know what I
related to it, because I said, I am also twenty
nine on the inside, I'm stuck at twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yes, Joe, no offense, Joe, but you're eighty. I don't
care if you're inside of twenty nine twenty nine. As
Check once said, thirty nine eight twenty nine, Bro, And
that's the truth.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Eighty ain't twenty nine either, Bro. But hey, much power
to you man.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Well a little blue pill. You can still go like
you're twenty nine into your eighties.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
But it install something in the ear.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Feel like then maybe Sharon Stone is not going to
be in this reboot or is this her?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Say that, John, because this is all sounds like a negotiation.
That's not gonna say.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I was just gonna ask you, do you think this
is a negotiation on Sharon's part?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I want to show John everything's about money.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
It's true.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Stone showed up to do a movie called Basic and
C two.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Wasn't she Yes, she did, even though she said she
was not going to do it.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah. Right, if the money's right, Sharon Stone is going
to show up.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
All right, Let's move on to someone by the way
John wore John Wore a half hour mark of the show.
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in your love as we go along here and see
it to your big story. Jeffter, you broke this week.
Anya Taylor Joy is apparently going to play Joni Mitchell.
What a interesting casting decision here for Cameron Crowe in
the long Gest Dating Joinny Mitchell biopick. She will play
her as a young lady, and then Meryl Streep will

(31:10):
take over and play her in her later years. And
the film is said to not be a traditional biopick,
which is of course the standard thing you say about biopicks.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
What the what look.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Dead clouds from both sides? Now? I just butcher Joni Mitchell?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
You are a feminist?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yes, go ahead, tell me, tell tell us all about
this story.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
What do you think about any Taylor Joy stepping in
this role? Man it's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I think this is, you know, pretty good casting all
things considered. Like she's a little too I don't know,
like hot.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
I was just gonna say, like, this is fascinating to
watch these folks singer songwriters who were at bestay looking
Bob Dylan, Joan Mitchell, others, and then have them being
played by these way hotter people in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
It's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yes, she's getting a glow up, I would say, but
like any you know, pretty much anybody who's going to
be cast as her who could get a movie finance
at this level was probably gonna be on that list.
You know, Like someone mentioned like Maya Hawk would have
been good, and my Hawk does look like her a lot,

(32:23):
But like, I can't pin a biopic like this on
my howk yet.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Unfortunately one of the actors they met you mentioned, right,
Kristen Frost from the.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah exactly, and she was the star of that movie,
The Assistant, I believe, Yeah, right, so yeah, she, uh,
you know, Anny Taylor Joy just edged out her. I
do think a lot of it had to do with
the fact that, hey, she's Emmy nominator, she's a Golden
Globe winner, she'sus. There's like, you know, doing movies and
uh furiosa, so you know, she's more recognizable. I think

(32:58):
her and Merrily Streep is a pretty formidable pairing. Like
that's a biopic I think people would go to see
if they're fans of Joni Mitchell. Of course, you know,
maybe not the most exciting, but you know, lived incredible life,
had incredible career. And it's also Cameron Crowe is the
master of fucking movies like this, and I'm just excited
to see him get back behind the camera. He hasn't

(33:18):
directed anything since Fucking a Low High in twenty fifteen. Bro.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, because he was on a run of terrible movies.
I think he might have lost his fastball, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
This concerns me.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
There's a lot of guys out there who have lost
their fastball. They still let him hold a camera. And
this is still Cameron Crowe we're talking about. So it's,
you know, kind of like Spike Lee. I had someone
called this morning and just reamed out the Spike Lee
movie for like twenty minutes there. This is the biggest
piece of shit I've seen all year, and I haven't
seen it yet. I'm just gonna wait for Apple TV

(33:48):
because I had two opportunities to see it this weekend.
They saw different movies both times. But you know, to me,
Spike Lee is someone who's lost their fastball. But they still,
you know, we still had Spike Lee direct movies. And
Cameron Crowe deserved to be making movies. I don't care
how many times he struck out.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Hem mc crow hasn't made anything like Black Clansman for
God's like a bit different if he can't. You know,
we got nominated won an Oscar for something like he is.
His films have not been great, and there's and you know,
Hollywood is littered with those directors who had a nice
run and then fell off the map, Walter Hill, John McTiernan, Like,
there's so many great directors.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, this guy's freaking you know, I don't know Cameron Crowe,
this is right in his wheelhouse. He's close with Joni
Mitchell himself, so is Meryl Streep. Is a story that's
really important to both of them. You know, I don't
expect it to be a big blockbuster necessarily, it feels
like it could be an Awards contender, and I think

(34:40):
Anya Taylor Joy wants to be taken seriously as an actress.
She's doing stuff like the gorge in this movie called Sacrifice.
It's going to be a tiff with Chris Evans that
I almost assure you will not be good. So, you know,
I think this is a good confert. Go work with
an enclaimed direct or, go over with Meryl Street, try

(35:02):
to learn something. And she gets to sing like she
did in One Night. She's sang at Petula Clark covered Downtown.
I don't know, I I like it, especially after i'd
heard for as long as I had, like many many months,
that it was probably gonna be Christine.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Oh yeah, wow, Okay, yeah yeah. I like Danny Taylor.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I mean, I've been a fan hers since Queen's Gambit,
so anything she's in I'm a big fan of. And Firiosa.
I don't know how that underperformed. It was such a
good move. All right, let's move on to a couple
of things and we'll get on out and we'll get
some questions to get on out of here. Weapons The
box office did really well this week, Jeff, what is
I know you don't like talking about box office. I
don't just send you on a rant, but this is

(35:42):
a horror movie. It is doing really well word of
mouth and all of that is pushing this thing around.
It's it destroyed nobody too. It beat Freaky Friday again.
It only dropped forty four percent and it's a hit.
It's set to hit the one hundred million dollar mank
this week and could get to one hundred fifty million.
So what do you think about this box office result

(36:05):
for the for Weapons on a second weekend.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
It's it's fun, you know, it's to be expected. It's
a fifty percent hold. It wasn't like as good as
the Sinners hold, but it wasn't as bad as these
comic book movie holds, right, right, It wasn't a sixty
percent drop. You know, the movie overperformed weekend one, and
you know this is a good, not great hold for

(36:27):
weekend two. I think this movie is still going to
do way better than anybody initially expected. And it's a hit.
You know, people like it, and it's spawning, you know,
like on Gladys is kind of becoming like a meme. Yeah,
developing a prequel with her and Amy Madigan's being profiled
in The New York Times.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Crazy interviewed.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I do think, yeah, someone posted something like, well, we're
going to talk about and Gladys in the same breath
as Andy Wilkes from Misery or The Joker.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
I'm like, slowly, but she's certainly one of the better
New Fresher villains of the last two years. What do
you what movie do you associate Amy Manigan with? I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Always Field of Dreams, always.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Field the Dreams. Yes see, I'm not a Field of
Dreams guy.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, too much to me.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
And I realized, like, oh, this is Uncle Bucks.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yes, what was her name, Denise or something?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I forget what it was.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yes, yeah, I love that movie man, Yeah, she's she
calls him that movie and Laurie Metcalf, like those two
battling over Buck is just fantastic in the film.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
But yeah, but a lot of people also think about
what was it jack and Pollack? Wasn't she in Jackson
Pollock as well?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
I thought, you try to remake Uncle Buck? I mean,
have they I.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Heard for years there were rumors about it with I
think Cedric or uh going the Black Rot like they
did with.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
What was one of the ones that they did using.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
A black actor? Oh yeah, they just did the Baby
Babysitter or whatever.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
JB. Smooth and Uncle Buck. That's a movie I would
go say, I love JB's move. There was someone saying
there was Yeah, that was one of those John John
Hughes did that right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I think yeah. John Hugh's the Uncle Bud guest one
hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Do people think of Gone Baby Gone with her? Do
you think of her for Gone Baby Gone?

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I I don't, but I know obviously she's yeah in
the movie.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's absolutely filled the dreams. Yeah,
and she wasn't Pollock. I thought she was.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
All right, let's talk about quin.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yet to do it.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Quentin Tarantino had some comments on one of his on
a podcast here, The Church of Tarantino, Piers. I mean,
that's how you get Tarantino on your podcast. You call
you podcast the Church of Tarantine.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Uh. He was talking about his movies and he said,
if this is a quote, Once upon a Time in
Hollywood is.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
His favorite movie, but Inglorious Bastards is his best.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
But I think Kill Bill is the ultimate Quinn movie.
He said, like nobody else could have made it. Nobody
was good and made it. Every asked it about it,
every aspect about it is so particularly ripped, like with
the tentacles and bloody tissues from the imagination of my
id and my loves and my passion, my obsession. So
I think Kill Bill is the movie I was born
to make. I think Inglorious Bastards is my masterpiece. But
Once upon a Time in Hollywood is my favorite. So

(39:18):
what do you think about these comments?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Jeff? Do you agree with Quentin Tarantino about his own movies?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
No, like, you know, what do you expect it? Listen
and too close to the work to judge it for
him or herself, right, that is why there are critics. Yes, true,
you know, like I mean, he's entitled to his opinions,
just like we are. You know, you have a favorite

(39:44):
and what he thinks is best and what is his masterpiece?
But yeah, I I disagreed with what he said.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Okay, so what would you? Okay?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
So what are the three things? And we're not going
to do fmk. What are the three things?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
With he said?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
He said once when Tima his favorite in Gloria's Bashi's
his best, but Kill Bill is his ultimate Quentin movie.
So what is your favorite Quentin Tarantina movie? What is
what do you think is actually his best movie? And
what do you think is the ultimate Quentin movie?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I do kind of agree that Kill Bill may be
the movie that he was born to make. Yes, yeah,
I think that may be accurate. The full one is
best movie. I mean, you can make an argument for Bastards, sure,
but yeah, I don't. I don't know that i'd call
it his best. It's hard to say. I mean, I

(40:36):
think objectively you kind of have to say it's pulp fiction, right.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I like pulp Fiction is his best movie, Yes, like
hands down.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
And it doesn't have to be your favorite, but it's
probably the best.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
But directors are like this. They never look at, oh,
my first movies are my great.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
They see all the mistakes that they may exactly always
want to think.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
The next one is the greatest one.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Right, it's no surprise he chose two of his most
recent ones in Bastards and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I'm really surprised he didn't mention Hateful Ay, but he
did say with hate Fulate and Once upon Time are
he thinks in Gloria's Bastards is his best script, and
that Hateful Eate and Once upon Time in Hollywood are
right behind. I agree with him on that. I think
hate fully it is his is the best written film

(41:20):
he's ever written, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
But I do agree that Kill Bill is the quintessential
to quin turn.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
That's my favorite film period Barnott, of all his films,
with Reservoir just right below it.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
It's awesome. I'm looking at the movies of the two
thousands of book. We're directly in front of my eyes,
and just Kill Bill is on the spine of the book. Yeah,
it's not my favorite, and I wouldn't say Once Upon
Time in Hollywood is my favorite either. That's a fun
hang movie. And I get why he's in love with
his last one and maybe why he's going to come

(41:52):
up with a new one because he's like shit, like
did I already just go out on the perfect note?
But to me, there's just something about Jackie Brown. There's
just so I really, I really do. I think if
there's just something special in that romance that she has

(42:12):
with Max Cherry played by Robert Forster. So that would
probably be my favorite. But hey, you know masters entitled,
and I'll tell you when he said, well, you know,
I gave my script of Fincher because me and him
are the best two directors. I tweeted, where's the lie?
I mean, we have this and they are the best

(42:35):
few directors in my.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Opinion currently working. I would agree with you there.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah it's great, but like quite the Tarantino would never
make a movie as bad as an air advice. That's
like impossible. Yeah, and I know I wasn't a fan
of MANK. Maybe MANK was like more not my cup
of tea that I just thought was like bad, like inherentvice.
I don't care for MANK at all, but you know,

(43:00):
with the Killer, and that was the most rewatchable movie
from that year.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Killer was great.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, I love MANK because I'm a big Citizen Kane fan,
so it speaks my language.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
But yeah, I can understand that I.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Would wait for what the two like, what their baby
looks like. Yeah, it may not be as good looking
as that either parent, you know what I mean, right,
but like fascinated to see what that collaboration looks like.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
But he has worked well with others.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I mean, I think Troe Romance is one of the
best Tony Scott films, and it's with the script and
not your one killers well under Oliver Stone favorite movies.
So yeah, yeah, so we'll see the one thing he
said about the movie Critic was fascinating, though, when he said,
who wants to see a TV show about a fucking
movie critic?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Who wants to see a movie called the movie critic?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
That was the test if I can actually make a
movie or TV show about someone who actually watches movies.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
I thought that was a bit like fuck you, Like
I felt like when he said that, I was like.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Fuck you wrote it? Yeah, I mean not at some
point it was worth watched that people would watch this.
And meanwhile, if you weren't a writer, a screenwriter or
a playwright, you know, because you're a famous writer, what
do you think you'd be quenchin?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, that's the thing, Like he was already you you
were a fucking video store clerk, madman. You are absolutely
already you were basically a critic already.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Right now with his podcast and the write ups for
New BEV, like actively writes reviews. Yeah, so, and and
that just because you know, he does something or we
you and I do something that doesn't make it movie
worthy necessarily. I understand where he's coming from on that front.
But they were they were weird quotes and like strangely

(44:39):
impressive because it's like there's no reason he couldn't return
to that one day.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah, agreed, Agreed.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
You can't listen, you can't trust any any of these directors.
I mean, let's go to the Nia DaCosta quotes.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Oh yeah, do you want to talk about those?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Okay, you know, it's just like we're getting close to
the hour mark.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
But later, gold Bone Temple like amazing script al Scarland.
I wish I'd had stronger scripts before with Marvel and
with The Candyman. I bet you I could go back
to those press tours and she'd be praising the Candyman's right, right, right,
because that's the game. And this is the thing about Hollywood.

(45:15):
It's always the next movie is the best one. This
next movie, Oh my god, greatest scriptor I've ever read.
I can't wait for you to see it. Three years
from now, she'd be doing something else. You'd be like, ah,
you know, Bone Temple just got away from me. That one.
I didn't know what.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, because if it doesn't get well received, then yeah,
she's gonna blame.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
And that's survivalist, right.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Hollywood is about surviving, and especially as a black female filmmaker,
you're not gonna have a lot of opportunities, and.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
So you want to.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Female director.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, and that's great, but you know you want to
keep getting those opportunities. And so I think this is
an interesting road she's chosen because including Candyman in this
is kind of shitting on Jordan Peel a little bit
byrect I completely agree.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
I was like, whoa, all rights fired in their development process?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, I hear on the Marvels thing. That makes a
lot of sense. You watched that movie. It's such a
terribly britten and constructed film, right, she did that. I
think she did the best she could with that. I
don't think she deserved blame for how that film turned out.
I know the anti wokefuckers love to blame her, but
I don't, And I think it's more a matter of, like,
there were too many cooks trying to make that thing working.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
In the end, it just did not work.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
But Kendy Man was after Captain Marvel, right.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
No, y was Kenny Man was, yes, after Captain Marvel,
but before the Marvels.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
So yeah, but I mean Bo DeMeo picked that up
on Twitter. It's like, yeah, yeah, if you guys aren't
following bow right now. He is on one on his
Twitter about Marvel, and I don't know how he's saying
all this stuff when he claims he has a lawsuit
and he can't talk about other things because all the
other stuff he's talking about is really related to the
things connected to his lawsuits. So I find it fascinating

(46:51):
the road he's walking. One last thing, Jeff or two
lessons real quick thirty seconds YouTube? But do you think
the oscars will get YouTube? YouTube apparently is interested in
getting the oscars. I said this for years on Collidter
mail bag, that it would end up on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Do you think it will eventually come to YouTube?

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I think that would be great for YouTube and probably
great for the Academy. I mean they'd be able to
boast a ridiculously high number. Then I'm sure it would
put up on YouTube. Here's the question. Is the live
chat the comments? Are they open or closed?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Wow? Man, that's a great point.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
That is a great like the live chat next to
the like you're just watching the oscars and you're just
seeing this. It would go so fast you wouldn't even
be able to keep up with it. But yeah, imagine
the comments under that I would.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Just do a live watch along of the chat. I
just wouldn't do a live watch ONNG.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
That would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
And one last thing, Terrence Stamp passed away Brother Zod
the Limey yes Man. One of my favorite films of
his Billy budd which he was nominated for an Oscar
for so many fantastic films, Young Guns wall Street passed
away at eighty seven years old.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Your thoughts on Terrance Stamp, any feelings.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
On always a respected character actor to me? I, you know,
I haven't seen a lot of the early movies that
put Terrence Stamp on the map. I've seen the Limeys
obviously great than that. You know, Priscilla Queen of the
Desert right now, can't be rule for him. Yeah, I've
always appreciated his presence, but he's not one that like,

(48:20):
I'm gonna sit here and cry over necessarily.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Real quick tidbit.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
He was in line to play James Bond after Sean
Connery walked away from the role, but apparently his take
on it was so dark that they did not call
him back for a second interview for Bond.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
So that lets you know he's always had that darkness
in him. All right, let's get into questions.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Jeff Cody Hunt says, my favorite film by Tarantino's Jango,
three Oscar caliber performances. John, you should like you should,
you should cover it on cinophause if you haven't already.
Uh No, I don't think we've done Jango, So yeah, definitely,
what are the.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Three Oscar caliber performances?

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Probably yeah, and Jamie Fox and Samuel l I would imagine.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Yeah, like I think it's Waltz, DiCaprio, Jackson. I don't
think the Box was good, but he's actually not who
I think of first. Okay, Jackson was amazing.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
If if it was a TV movie, I had put
Don Johnson up there for guest guest actor because his
sequence is incredible. Connor Prazoonski says, how is Andy serkis
going to film Batman two and direct LOTR at the
same time next spring?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Oh? Maybe because he might not be in a lot
of the movie. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, that's that's certainly possible. Yeah, who knows. All I
know is that six people have read this rift. And
if you've heard anything fucking otherwise the lion or they guessing.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Six people.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Matt sister mccausa sketches in my top five of twenty
twenty five. Didn't expect that I am going to have
to see this movie. A lot of people were speaking
highly of this film.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Have you seen it?

Speaker 3 (49:57):
I have not. I want to see it. It's still
in the coming soon section of my blog spot, which
has been updated. Oh and uh yeah, I wish I'd
been by to do a presscreen or something off to
check it that when it hits the bud.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
All right, Evan, Since speaking of Cott Stealing and DC,
anything on Aeronofsky's Plastic Man or him with DC in general.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Also, I call bs On Kravitz not being a Batman too.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Okay, that's fine. I'm not saying that she is or
she isn't. I'm just saying that this is what was
said at the Cot Stealing junket five. I haven't heard
anything on Plastic Man. We'll see if he still gets
to make Plastic Man after Cott stealing opens.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Uh and yeah, I don't think it's part of the
Superman saga, so I don't think it's gonna get a
chance to do it.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
So that's a new direction Superman.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Matt Syster McCall will Jaws fiftieth make more money than
Cought Stealing.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Probably, No, Jaws is a good movie. People love it.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Still old people people have seen Jaws, and we just
did the three D version a few years so.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
No, I don't know. Oh right, good point.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
By the way, speaking of Jaws, the Cinophile is part
one of our deep dive into Jaws. We revisited that film.
We did it like years ago, only for an hour
and a half, two hours. We're going deep into this one.
So part one is up now wherever you download podcasts.
Jay Anderson said, I find it baffling that people believe
James Gunn's word has any credibility.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Oh you said it, not us, Jay.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
There's a lot of people get mad at our feelings
over James gun A lot of me, I know, a lot.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Of these millionaire studio heads need defending from.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Cody Hunt says, I don't care if it's in a movie,
but there's a mysed creative opportunity if Miliaudi and Kravitz
don't interact at some point in the Batman universe. Yeah,
because it was wasn't that tease at the end of
the Penguin that there was a contact between them too?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
So yeah, maybe she Isn't it possible? Maybe the publicists
we're lying.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Billy J. Thank you Philog for the support. You're the best.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Cody Hunt says, Uh. Thoughts on Spike Lee Challo may
team up. Uh, I don't know that Challome would do
it right now, but I'd be down to see it
if there was a possibility of them teaming up.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Spike Lee is absolutely dreaming and I don't think that
Chalome's reps would let him make a miss step like that.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah. Evan says that Camera Crow is a legend, but
he is washed. Also, Highest to Lowes was fun, but
it doesn't come close to Kisawa's masterpiece saw it in
thirty five millimeters once? Well, I one thousand percent agree
with you on that it does not come close to
heindlow But it is.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
A fun watch. You know.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I can't believe your friend went off on it for
twenty minutes. Wow, I'm two f like Cam says. So
Lucasfilm is handing a trilogy to someone making a star
Trek film and has a spotty record.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
What could go wrong?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Any Ahsoka news is green Blat back, Arianna green Blatz
coming back to be in ah Sosoka.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Green Blatt. I don't watch a Soaka. I don't even
know who she plays or anything one way or the other.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Just talk about lucasfilm, Kimberg, the Kimberg.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, Spidy record, Well, everyone's got a spotty rerec Well,
a lot of people have spody records, and Holly wouldn't
keep working.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
We just talked about Cameron Crowe, Ali sabith It sa
is Hey guys.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Director Carl Rinch was in a state of psychosis at
the time of alleged Netflix fraud. Defense argues, what's the
story with this guy? Has psychosis?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Has ever driven either of you to waste money?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah? I was in a state of psychosis when I
bought a ticket for forty seven ronin But film thikes,
what is what is up with this guy? I think
he's I think he's a fraud who took a lot
of money from Netflix and spent it on luxury mattresses.
And he deserves what he's going to get, which is

(53:46):
jail time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Probably h Cody Hunts's thoughts on Regina and An are
returning for a scary movie.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I love it. I think it's great.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Jeff Bad Bad move what why? First of all, if
you bring them back, you bring them back as a
cameo and a you know, homage to the first movie
or whatever. But you gotta move on like this, like
this is nonsense, that we're just like, I don't I
don't know if they're gonna be the leads or not.

(54:14):
They could very well be cameos, but you don't lead
your casting announcements with the two of them.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Fair point.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Evan says Quentin's best is either Jackie Brown or Once
upon a Time in Hollywood. I would take Jackie over
once although although that ending, I hate that ending. Everything
up to the ending is fucking fantastic.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
What what ending? And Jackie Brown?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Oh, once upon a Time in Hollywood?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Calm down, calm down?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Uh dirty mother Tasn tollsand says, really looking forward to
tip this year?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Jeff?

Speaker 2 (54:44):
What tip movies? Are you looking forward to the most
this year? Hoping I can get tickets for Hamnet?

Speaker 3 (54:49):
I still don't know what I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Oh yeah, you haven't gotten.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I got in. I just don't and I want to
spend the money to go. It's pretty petty, it's not cheap,
so but yeah, look what movies am I looking forward to.
If you do go, I'll tell you I like, what
the fuck is some bad ideas or whatever? That comedy duo.
Oh yeah, Ry Barker has a horror movie in the

(55:17):
midnight section. It seems way too long based on the
running time, but I am curious what that dude cooks up.
Even though I didn't like Milk and Cereal or whatever
that short film that got on earlier this year Ali Smith.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
He says he should have made the critic and the
critic a serial killer who writes film criticism by day
and stalks his favorite film actors and directors by nights.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Hey, not a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
I mean I have an idea alan for a movie
where a filmmaker goes after critics who have given him
bad reviews. He calls them at Sundance one by one.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Oh my god, one night in Sundance Masson, I heard
anything on Lurker. Is relay worth seeing?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah? Screenings is starting to have for relay. Sorry, relay.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Relays terrific. The same caller who bitched about highest to
lowest for twenty minutes was a big fan of relay
and thank me for that recommendation. You know you guys,
absolutely go see Relay. It's just a terrifically cackling, well
written thriller. Lurker is going to be the next thriller
that I'm going to hopefully be using those same words on.

(56:26):
And I think I'm gonna see it a Thursday night.
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I just got the screener for any Meaning, so I
want to see if that's good. Oh yeah, I'm sitting
to take a look at it and see if it's
any good. Oh and I started we started task last night.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
And Rebarbo Carevil.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
That's all I'm gonna say. Fuck, It's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Wayne Edwards says, the Cinophals did do Django, one of
your best.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
See.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
We've done so many movies I forget. I need to
get a list done. Thank you, Wayne, I appreciate it.
Great to see you, brother. Thanks for reminding me, Evan
says christ And thanks for the compliment, Evan. Chris seen
and Jackie Brown is fucking funny. Yes, agreed, Get in
the get in the trunk, Get in the trunk. That
shit is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
All right, let's move over to the stream labs.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Here a fantastic through fourteen, says Hey, hot Mike, showing
some love for my dudes.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Thank you, Fred.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Question of all the movies you've seen so far in
twenty twenty five, what's your favorite movie line you've heard?
And from where? Mine is if you put an AI
in a human brain, it's not going to ride shotgun.
That's good, Jeff. Do you have a favorite line from
a movie in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Do you have aids which which what movie is that?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
In? Weapons?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Oh right, okay, Jesus right, I forgot I think mine
would be what Hailey Steinfelder Steinfeld says to Uh to
one of the brother's day when he's talking, when she's
talking about you put it in me and then blah
blah blah like.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
That was I was. I was like shocked in my seat.
Otis Glasgow says, Hi.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Do you happen to know anything about Joe Cohen's next
solo film that Josha O Connor. The streets are saying
it's been scrapped mid production. God, Jeff, the rumors are
the Coen Brothers a getting back together.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
What do you hear about this?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
The rumors are that he that Cohen started filming a
movie with Josh O'Connor, and they pulled the plug halfway through.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
That's what he's saying. That the streets said it's been
pulled in mid production.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
I don't know if I think he's maybe just misreading
Jordan's report from earlier today. I don't know that it
ever actually went before cameras. It seems like we would
have heard about the rest of the cast if that was.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Here's what Jordan says, the the film had its production
stalled in Scotland. I'm told that is not shoran. In fact,
he's actually just started shooting. That's what his latest update
on this was on him.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
So the movie's not canceled, right.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I got tipped this morning about how Joel's Jack's Bad
Star on Josh con which was supposed shoot summer, had
his production stalled in Scotland.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
I'm told that it's not too. In fact, he's actually
just started shooting, so that isp. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Well then false alarm much you do about nothing?

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Question answered Glasgow.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
I have no interest in seeing that Honey Don't movie, though, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I know we've talked about it.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
No interesting, Nolan has got nothing to do with it
being women or lesbian anything like that. It's just the film.
The style of the film looks annoying as fun. Nolan
de Palma says, glad to watch live for the first time.
Thank you and support two of the best in the business.
Oh well, I'm in I'm in Snyder's wake.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I can do ten more minutes.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
By the way, Okay, what.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Are some of you guys favorite movie related items that
you own? Mine is my Halloween Blu ray box set
and my Bookie Night's Mondo poster.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Keep up the amazing work, guys.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Yeah, Mondo doesn't do posters like they used to before, right,
I mean it's a shame.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Right Yeah. By the way, I have a ton of
posters I'm trying to get rid of. So if there
are any serious collectors in the area, so I'm not
gonna ship these things. They're all framed. Oh wow, unless
it's like you know, I got a few there not framed.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Why don't you Why don't you put that up on
your Twitter and pin that post and then have pictures
of each of them in the prices.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I think people will get it. What's your favorite movie
related that you own?

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Good question. It's not my favorite, but I'll tell you
what I still have, and I don't think I'll give
up for anything, which is a broke back mountain jacket. Wow,
corduroy jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I usually donate all my shit so that I get
I guess I still have the Scarface box set, the
original one they sent me with the actual model of
the spinning globe thing at the end of the movie
add in pristine condition in my closet. I don't let
that come out see the light of day at all,
but I love it all right, Rolan says, John and

(01:00:35):
Jeff any updates Spider Man Brand New Day and the
X Men reboot movie? Any updates on Spider Man Brand
New Day and the X Men reboot move? Yeah, Jeff,
you got anything on that side of things?

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
No? Okay, but I will say, and you may have,
you know, seen the potential there on task where I
think she's fantastic on your remio Emelia Jones. Since I
was watching ODA yesterday, I think Amelia Jones is so
fucking talented. Ah, and I could see.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Her being like rogue, oh yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Much cheaper than Daisy Edgar Jones or Margaret Qualley. Not
that that's necessarily the role that they're up for, but
I think she'd be great X man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, yes, start looking at Tom Pelfrey two. People need
to start looking at Tom Pelfrey two. Samuel said, Hey, y'all,
just rewatched One Full of the Cougar's Nest in the
theater for the first time. That's my It was a
new four kree master and it's still to this day
one of my top favorite films of all time. Which
classic film would you want to rewatch but this time

(01:01:40):
in theater? I gotta say, Jeff, living in LA I've
seen just about all the classic films I've ever wanted
to see in a theater, So I don't know if
I can answer this question.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
What about you?

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
I was gonna say, I too, have seen a lot
of great movies in the theater. Yeah, shit, I gotta
think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Yeah, I mean yeah, Like, I would love to see
two thousand and one in Imax. I've never seen two
thousand and one in Imax. If they ever put that
in an Imax and like really cleaned it up and
made it amazing. Because I have the four K, I
would love to see two thousand and one in Imax.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
I can't I can't even keep track of like what
I've seen, haven't seen on the Bitch or not. But
I guess I would have liked to have been there
for Wait Until Dark As, which is one of my
favorite old movies, the one with Audrey Heppert. Like to
actually have been in a theater where they kill the
exit signs. I believe that those were shut off at
the end of the movie to immerse the audience in

(01:02:40):
total darkness. Yeah, that would be one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Alan Arkin, Mike McKenzie. Hey, guys, you see the Fallout
season two pictures. Does that mean we were getting a
trailer soon?

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Yes, yeah, I would say so. Omar, says Jeff de
leat the Weapon Franchises. A's like fine Wine Number two
is particularly good. Patsy Kensi is so hot. She was
in that film for sure. Have you heard anything on
how to Rob a Bank?

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Uh? Yeah, I've heard you wear a fucking mask, you
bring a fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Gun, don't forget the come.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I haven't heard anything as to like how the movie's going.
It's a David Leach movie, though, I'm sure it'll be
like all the others.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yeah, and LEITHA Whipping two is still fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Deep the show.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
It's just been revoked.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Ronan unchained. Hey, John and Jeff I pumped. I pumped
as fuck for the adventures of Clinton Booth Clickbooth. What
can the QT put out until he makes his last film?
I feel like he should put out some paperbacks in
the meantime, stories of his characters in his universe.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
What do you all think?

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Not a bad idea, Jeff, I want to see Quentin
Tarantino on the MCU.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I want to see him write a book about the
MutL Cinematic Universe.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
And then and then no thanks, no thanks. I'll tell
you this. I think Tarantino should never make the tenth film.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
That would be one of the most amazing cock tases
that would last for the rest of existence.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
People would would write novels, people.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Would create YouTube channels thinking about what Tarantino could have
done for his last film and the fact if he
never does it, I think it would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
It's amazing. What a great way to stay legendary. Evan says, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Would you rather step in the ring with James Gunn
or back in with the OUV bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
People are pointing out you threatening James Gunn getting into
a boxing room.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Threatening James Gunn. That's the title of my fucking autobiography.
Would I rather step in the ring with probably Uva again?
Because I feel like Uva the first time around, he
was like motivated, right, and so he wanted to kick
some ass. But these days, eh, I don't know that
he has the same fire James Gunn. Though he might

(01:04:53):
become motivated, he might be like, all right, I'm gonna
work with corn Sweats trainer. I'm gonna shut this fucking
guy once up. Uh, once and for all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Jennifer Holland will be there to mess with your head too,
So just a duck.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Do you know anything about the upcoming horror film Psycho Killer.
Saw it on twentieth Century Schedule and it seemed interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
I haven't seen anything on that Gavin Polone's movie. Seems
like it's been in post production for a long time. Yeah,
we'll see. Not to cast any aspersions, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Eric Kurby, Jeff, If you were anything about good the
Good about Good Boy, the horror movie with the dog, Yeah,
trailer was mad.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
It was a cool uh cool trailer. I mean I
watched it. It was a little too dark on my
phone when I watched this morning, so I need to
give it another look. But looks like an interesting perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
At PG thirteen though, so we know the dog's not dying,
Mario ar Barbera says, if Rachel's like had kept her
mouth shut about her personal opinion on the original Snow
White animated film and tried acting like she was grateful
to betray her, then maybe it wouldn't have caused an uproar.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Just my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
I don't think you're wrong, But again, I think if
the movie was good, it wouldn't have mattered. It would
have done better if the movie was actually good because
people have short attention spans, and that was a year
before the movie came out that interview, so you know,
or longer, so I think peop would have forgot about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Jeff, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
I don't know, as someone who had experience in having
every single person on the internet seemingly remember every single
word I've ever written, I don't know if people do
have short memories, but who knows who does?

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
All right, that's the last super chat. Let's get on
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What they're saying.

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