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The following is a presentation of FCBFaith. This is the hour Glass on
the FCB Radio network. Well well, well we are back in the house
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one more time. Happy New Year'sto everybody out there. This is Bruce
Lemot Hagan's the second and this isRahima Hagens and we are back with the
hour Glass. Yay, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah. Yes,
it's good to be back. Thankyou, thank you. We want to
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thank the FCB family for holding itdown for us until we was able to
get back. We know we hadsome some issues with this weather here in
Cleveland and Akron, Ohio. Warekind of got as stuck. Although the
Lord is still faith on. He'sgood and he kept us in perfect peace
until we was able to get backto you guys, and he gave us
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things to think on, and hespoke with us day and night. I
don't know about my wife, butI know that he was in my ear
day and night. I mean,you know, you know, you know
guys, I just want to sharethis before we move forward. You know,
we always say, you know,Lord Lord, I would I need
a word from you. I wantto hear from you can you speak to
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me. Lord, be careful forwhat you ask for, because he will
do it. Yeah, everybody say, won't he do it? Yes?
He will. And he spoke withme day and night, woke me up
even a few times, like hey, let me give you this, like
hold up, Lord, you knowI was leaving, Hey, let me
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give you this. All right,all right, but yes, it's good
to be back with you guys.And uh, speaking of which you were
speaking, we say, God willwill talk to you. What we're going
to speak on today is God's instructionsversus protocol, God's instruction versus protocol.
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My wife, that's it. That'swhat she wants to speak on the day.
She just her that's her topic.So I'm going to turn the MC
the mic, you know, becauseI was about to start getting it there
with some bars, but I said, let me let me stick to the
thing. Thank you. Okay,you're ready, Yeah, I'm ready.
Yeah, I know you do.You can take me out, okay.
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Yeah. So hey, everybody,So the topic is, like Bruce said,
instructions of God versus protocol. Sofirst, before I even get into
how this topic came about, Um, what what does that even? What
is that what are the instructions ofGod? And what is protocol? So
another way to look at instructions ofGod is obedience, just doing what God
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told you to do, which umsometimes is a struggle because in our human
minds and just being people and independentand free thinkers, we want to do
what we want to do. Sohow do you I'm not what you said,
but doesn't he give you free choice? Can I finish? I mean,
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can I just get one paragraph out? So then as protocol and protocol
is very simply um the expectations ofleadership or society and what should be done
given a certain situation two totally differentthings. However, you'll find a lot
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of times that they come into playat the same time. Now, what
you want to say, nothing helpme? Okay? So this comes from
Isaiah fifty five and eleven and itreads, so shall my word be that
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goes forth from my mouth? Itshall not return to me void, but
it shall accomplish what I please,and it shall prosper in the thing for
which I sent it. So whenwe're talking about the instruction of God,
we're talking about when God tells youto do something, it's going to happen.
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The prayer is that you're obedient orthat we're obedient enough to partake in
the blessing that comes with the word. So that's where we're going today.
Okay, okay, okay. SoGod's instruction is what will happen. Protocol
is what society wants to happen.Okay, did you So what's the definition
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of protocol. Protocol is what societywants to happen. Like if you I
don't want to use your job,but say you know, you leave an
organization, they have a protocol andhow you should leave. Right, But
what if it's an organization that Godtells you you gotta go? Okay,
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well let's let's go here there,what's the protocol or leaving the church?
Since we were biblically signed, we'regonna talk. We're gonna talk Bible,
we're gonna talk about what God saythere was the protocol of leaving the church?
Then well, if you're leaving achurch, Okay, the building,
Okay, the building. It stillit goes back to God's instruction versus I'm
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working. Okay, We've left acouple of churches, so we ain't never
followed protocol, right, which iswhy I'm an expert at this particular topic
because you have to do what Godtells you to do. Yeah, but
the word says do things decent andin order us more decent in an order
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than God's instruction. Good point,give me, that's good. That's good.
Yeah. But you know, butyou know, aren't we supposed to
do things accordingly to how we're supposedto as as human beings? You know
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what? The There is definitely away to leave respectfully, and there's definitely
a way to leave orderly. Yes, but there are times when God's instruction
will not match the protocol of achurch or the protocol of an organization.
And for that, my response isand always will be, Guy's instruction doesn't
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have to match protocol. Okay.If God is telling me, and I
know God's voice and I know he'stelling me that I need to move on,
I'm gonna do what he tells me. I'm not too concerned about if
people are upset with me, butI don't want God mad at me.
Yeah, but you know, youknow, God said, you know,
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love that neighbor, treat that neighboras thyself, which is how I can't,
which is why I say leave respectfully. But sometimes you can't. Sometimes
you can't leave. No, obviously, here we go. See you know,
I thought we was gonna start thisnew year off right, but I
see we got to go there.Look here, if something happens to somebody,
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something happens to someone in my family, m whatever the case may be,
there is no more protocol. Whywhy? Yeah? Why because you're
talking about you're talking about getting yourfeelings hurt or this is respect. Okay,
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let's say this protocol has respect,respect values to go with this.
So so do the instructions of God. Yeah that's right. Yeah, So
okay, So I'm supposed to justlay down. No, you're supposed to
address the situation, right, SoI can't lay down. No, that's
right, and I ain't gonna laydown. So this protocoll is you arguing
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with me even what I've agreed withyou. I'm saying no, I'm not
saying. I'm not saying that youshould you should address the First of all,
since you took it there and youtook it the church. If somebody
hurt you in church, it isnot okay to just we keep talking about
hurt. No, this ain't athing of hurt. This is a thing
of respect or the feeling disrespected.It's also a form of hurt. No,
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it's not. No, it's notwhere you get that from. I
ain't hurt. I look at ifyou disrespect me, this ain't got nothing
to do with her. There's somethinggot to do it. Hey, you
know what how old I am?I'm fifty years old, dude. You
know I paid my dude. Lookhere, you're about to get dealt with
because you because you just disrespected me. You're distressed. Fact that what you
want me to So we supposed toact like children? What you mean?
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That's just childish? What's childish?That's all right? What childish? Oh?
Because you feel like you just expectit. You're just gonna walk away?
What you mean? It's not aboutwhat I feel. It's what you
did to say that. How Iain't. But doesn't the Bible tell us
what to do? And we haveit awt against our brother and that's what
we're gonna do. We're gonna handleit. We're gonna We're gonna you handle
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it by leaving. I didn't sayleave, So what would you do?
Well? I do? Yeah,if if it's out of disrespect, we're
gonna have to go into this rule. I'm gonna have to have it to
a little work with your little talkto you, and I don't know what's
gonna happen really after that. Butwhen you talk about protocol and you talk
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about the instructions of God, Okay, you do the instructions of God,
you do do that. But whenit comes to a level, you see,
I don't I don't want to getto church. She in here.
You know what I'm saying. Idon't want to, you know, because
see I ain't you know, Ikeep trying to tell you I ain't all
the way there. Okay, buthow about you just answer the question?
What? Just answer the question?What's your dancing? Answering around? And
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that's what we're gonna We're gonna bedancing too. When I'll be dancing,
I'm gonna hit you with this leftright bob leave left right boom boom.
So I'm going to tell you everybody, I'm gonna tell you how to leave.
If you have to leave, leavean order we go. What is
order? Then? Rashima meaning ifyou feel like if you have been disrespected,
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you've been you know, done wrong, you have to address we have
but we haven't did that. Ialways left. That's not that's not okay,
and that's wrong. You know what. A guy didn't seem to see
that it was wrong. He wasall right with me. You don't know
that. You know what I know. Well, you weren't right, and
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you should have done that differently.Okay. What should I have done there?
You should have handled the situation.If there was an aught, you
should have dealt with it. Youshould have addressed it. You never leave
unfinished business that's not decent in anorder and you you've said that first.
You're the first one that said weneed to do things decent and okay,
but you said protocol deals with howYeah, I mean, because if you're
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in an organization, a protocol willtell you, you know, you got
to submit a letter, you gotto go through an exit interview, you
gotta give them so many days notice. If you hold a position, you
gotta make sure you got a replacement. That's protocol, okay. But when
you have instructions of God and hesays it's time to go, you don't
have thirty days to do all thatsometimes, okay. So that's that's the
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difference between the two. That's wholOkay, I did both. So,
like I said, what if youhave an issue with somebody, if you
just discuss talking, it ain't aboutyou. It's about the instructions of God.
And you saying, if you sayyou are about this walk and you
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are about living for God, I'mliving for Jesus. You gotta do what
you're supposed to do, and yougot to do it the right way.
Thank God for grace and mercy.Then, you know, because sometimes that
just don't happen. You know,I have to go in full repentance to
God because sometimes that just don't happen. I'm gonna take your mic away from
you. Yeah, I'm just gonnasnatch it. I'm just saying, always
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leave respectfully. Okay, it's onething. It's just my it's just my
philosophy. Whenever I leave an organization, a relationship, whatever. Okay,
good, I'm leaving. I'm leavingrespectfully because I want to leave blameless.
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Let's talk about relationship when it comesto God's instruction and protocol there, and
I'm gonna hit this. I'm gonnahit this hard because well, you know
what, I don't even know ifI really want to answer to this,
but It's a topic that always comesup, and no one really gives the
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you know, the correct answer.I don't know if it even it is
a correct answer to this. Sayyou are in a relationship, you are
married, and you are in arelationship and it's abusive. Now, the
word says, you know that youshould stay with your your you know,
your significant other, your husband,wife, Right, that's the word of
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God. But what do you doif it's like detrimental to your health?
You find what I'm saying. SoI'm not really I guess I'm not really
looking for an answer, but I'mjust putting something out there for us to
think about. Well, I can'tcomment on it. Okay, let's go.
I'm ready as a child of God, as God's daughter. Yes,
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I know God wants me to behappy. If I'm in a situation where
the person I'm with is not onlynot making me happy, but they're abusing
me, how is that a godlymarriage? So why I won't say?
Why? Will I? I understandthere are a lot of factors that keep
people in abusive relationships, and Idon't want to disrespect or diminish that.
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Excuse me, but God doesn't wantme in a relationship, whether it's a
marriage or just even a friendship.Doesn't want me in any relationship where I
am continuously or regularly being harmed inany kind of way. So is there
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such thing as a total call tothat? And I'm and I'm going back
now to a relationship, whether it'sabuse of not abuse of family friend.
Is there such thing as a God'sinstruction to that than a protocol? Well,
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there's always going to be god godlyinstruction. I believe in personal relationships
especially that's when you take it toGod and ask him for a specific instruction.
So I think it's more of acase by case basis. It's no
blanket answer. But generally speaking,if you have to walk away, there
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are some things you should make sureyou do before you walk away. First
thing would be that I mean,I was waiting to see if you had
to come back. You know you'vebeen You've been firing them off so far
this morning, so you know,Um, like I said, you know,
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leave the right way, you knowif you can, because like now
you're talking about abusive situations, youcan't always leave peacefully. And I actually
know from experience you can't always dothat when you're in an abusive relationship,
sometimes you usually got to get outokay when you can, Okay, you
know what's what else you got there? Well, you change the script because
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you'd have made it about Are westill talking about abusive relationsis? Are we
talking about relationships in general? We'regoing back to relationships in general? What
you got okay? In relationships ingeneral? Um, it's really hard.
I know you're not going to agreewith this, Bruce. You have to
leave respectfully. What do you meanrespectfully? What was respect you have to
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keep to me? To me,it means to me personally, it means
I don't care how you act,but what kind of a fool bag you
come out of. I'm not gonnastop being who I am. I'm not
gonna you know, I'm gonna alwayshave a certain level of class and tact
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in anything I do. I don'tcare how many bags you come out of.
Well when I when I say I'mready to walk away or I am
walking away, it don't matter whatyou do. I'm not gonna stop being
who I am. I'm not gonnalet you take me out of my space,
my my peace space because you wantto act up. Okay, So
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just because I might want to crackyou upside your head. That takes me
out of me being a king.Absolutely, I don't think so. That's
not King Lee, that's not aking at all. You know what,
It's been many of kings that hadto crack people upside of the heir,
you know, doing what they're supposedto do. That don't mean okay,
But if I'm saying I'm ready togo and that's your reaction, what's the
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motivations for keeping me? Wait aminute, Wait a minute. What we're
talking about here? Are we talkingabout relationship? Just relationships in general relationship,
not you and as specifically just relationships. No, I wasn't talking about
as far as man and woman.I'm talking about in the relationship total.
You know, like if you dealingwith a man, man and man,
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you know, you know, disrespect. You know, I'm back there.
You know now when it comes to, uh, the protocol, I guess
the not the protocol, but theinstructions of relationship between the man and the
woman. I agree that a manshould go ahead and let her go,
you know, you know, okaylike this? You know you know my
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favorite show we always watch on Saturdays, It's Cheaters, No, that's your
show. Yeah, that that thatthat show is one of my favorite shows.
I love. Oh, I meanthat show is good. Yeah,
that's that's a good show. Imean I don't like that show, but
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hilarious. How do you get caughtup in something like that? Or you
know, I mean you know,you you're out in the bout and you
think you go ahead doing your onetoo, and all of all people is
you know, catching your own cameraand then when the time comes, when
the time comes with my man,uh Greg Cole, uh come up on
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you with his camera? What's theother one from? Uh? What's your
point? What one from a loveof hip hop? What's his name?
I don't know, honey, whatI know? What? What's his name?
I don't know? Okay, allright, but anyway, you know,
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when they are in that nest ofgetting caught. But what's the what's
the way? How do you howdo you gonna get out of that?
What's the proper way to to touh dissolve that issue and move on by
yourself? What would you se?That's only different because type situation, because
you always have a comment when whenit happens. Because I would never put
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myself in that type of situation.So if you were, what would happen?
I wouldn't. That's why I can'tanswer it. I would never put
myself in that type of situation.I would never be the person needing to
hire cheaters first of all, andI wouldn't be the one called cheating,
So it don't apply to me eitherway. You've always got comments when you
see it. Yeah, because Ican't believe they put themselves in those type
of situations and allow themselves to lookso silly. Okay, but I okay,
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okay, So can we get backto this ahead? Thank you.
So we're talking about leaving respectfully.And by leaving respectfully, I mean two
things. One leaving respectfully and notbad mouth in the person. When you
leave, don't go to social mediaand start posting about you know, they
wasn't a real one or you know, whatever the case. If you're walking
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away, just walk away, leaveit alone. You know, if you
if you can't restrain yourself, thenunfriendom or whatever so you don't see them
no more. You know, whateveryou gotta do, but just walk away
and be quiet. Is that hardto do for I'm asking in general?
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No, it's not, okay,I don't think it is. Can you
make amends? Are you good atthat? You know, that's that's on
the lines of forgiveness. Yeah.I don't like that word. Yeah,
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yeah, no, I don't liketo do it, but I have to.
Yeah. That's instructions, Yeah,instructions. So that so making amends
means you have to go to theperson and correct whatever you did wrong.
You know, a lot of timeswe want to leave relationships and we want
to blame the other person, butit takes a bigger person to look at
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what they've done that contributes to thebreakdown of the relationship or the need for
somebody to leave. And if youfind that that's you, you have to
correct that. Still leave, butyou know, say you're sorry, make
your peace with it, and keepit going, keep it moving. Yeah,
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and you know, and in therooms of AA N A R c
A, that's what actually one ofthe steps that even then UM celebrate recovery.
That's one of the that's one ofthe steps that is required the guy
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wants you to do, and that'sto go to that person that you have
offended and make amends with them andask for forgiveness. That's instructions. That's
what you suppose. That's what you'resupposed to do. He wants you to
do that. Yeah, you know, Uh, it's a lot of instructions.
You know, when we deal withprotocol versus God's instructions, there's no
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there's no in between, there's nowell, you know, maybe I think
I can, maybe I will do. No, it's what you're supposed to
do. And I think I've evenexpressed this when it comes to Matthew twenty
five and the fortieth verse and Proverbsnineteen and the seventeenth verse, where one
verse speaks, one, as youdid up to the least of these,
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you have done also unto me,And that's when he's actually speaking on what
you are supposed to do. Forthe Christian that is in Trouble nineteen and
seventeen speaks on the poor, andI think we discussed that in Godhead,
what we're supposed to do as faras helping the poor, and it's very
it's numerous scriptures that speaks on instructionson doing that. But when it comes
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to the proverb, that's you know, if you do it, got ja,
he'll give you for what you did. But the commandment on the twenty
fifth to the forty a verse.That's an instruction. That's what you're supposed
to do. This, that's notit's no compromise when it comes to God's
instruction, right, you know protocolyou you know you can compromise. You
know, lab maybe there's no butthe one comes to God has instructions.
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Whether there is no compromise, yougot to do it right. I suggest
you do it because because if youdon't do it, you know, a
chase of chestening is coming to it. Right, you won't get dealt with.
You know, Uh, protocol isI would like to say a religion
you know, yeah, that's areleegion because you know a man could say,
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well, you know, this isprotocol, this is what we do.
WHOA. So, if you ifyou ever find yourself in a situation
where you're being told you didn't dosomething right, or you didn't leave right
because you didn't follow protocol, ifyou know you did what God told you
to do, you didn't do anythingwrong. First and foremost, there's nothing
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to there's nothing to be corrected about, there's nothing to be rebuked about.
You know, if you know Godtold you on this particular day, at
this particular time that it was timefor you to pick up your stuff and
walk out that door and never comeback to that place or that person.
There is nothing you need to beconcerned about as far as protocol or instruction,
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um or. There's no template forthat. There's no template for the
instructions of God. If you're gonnafollow him, follow him all the way
through. Okay, so let's let'stalk. Let's okay, So when we
come back, we're gonna we're gonnatake a break, and when we come
back, we're gonna talk about thisprotocol. And I'm not gonna I'm not
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gonna touch on it long. Butyou know how we hear that. You
know, you gotta take the COVIDshot. You know, some places,
even where I work at the VA, you gotta take the shot. You
know, if as it was,if you're in the healthcare, you gotta
take a shot. But then somepeople may say, look here, the
Lord said, I ain't got totake that shot. So I want to
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get when we come back, Iwant to touch on that just a little
bit because something goes with that,and I think it's a misconception on what
that looks like. So when wecome back, we're gonna talk about the
instructions of what God says versus whatmaybe the world other religions says about it.
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Okay, okay, yes, allright, so listen, guys,
we want to thank you again forallowing us to come back onto your your
the radio stations and then too youryour radios, and uh, we're gonna
take a break. I'm Bruce Hagensand I'm Mashima Haggans and this is the
hour Glass. We'll be back radionetwork. Hey, welcome back, guys
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to the Hourglass. This is BruceHagensens. Yeah, we're back. Hey,
I remember that guy's name. Itwas Peter. Yeah, Peter,
that's on Cheaters. Yeah yeah,yeah yeah. So listen, I wanted
to just speak on this briefly whenI just want to know your thought on
this. You know, it's beena controversy where you know, it says
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that the health UH organization, youknow, those who work in the health
field must take the COVID shot.Right, But then we have religion or
you know, people that are Christianssay, you know, no, I
ain't doing that. You know,this is so what some say the mark
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of the beast, or I justcall a spade to say that spade.
You know, some say it's themarket, the beach, we're not doing
that, just that, and otherSo what do you feel or how do
you feel about that? What God'sinstructions then protocol on this matter with COVID
with the COVID shots, Well,I look at the COVID vaccine like any
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other vaccine we've been required to take. You know, we required we're required
to take so many vaccines before wecan go to school. We're required to
take a fluid shot. Nobody questionedany of those vaccines. We questioned the
COVID vaccine because it was made untilquickly. But I think people have to
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understand one, it was made quicklybecause the FDA did not require those drug
companies to go through all the redtape they traditionally would have to go through.
Because we were in the middle ofa pandemic. People were dying for
every day that this vaccine wasn't approved. We were losing people about a thousands.
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So when the vaccine came out andit was made available, I was
skeptical at first because of how fast, you know, it came about.
But like I said, at thesame time, ultimately what made me go
get it was Nobody seems to raisea lot of sand about all these other
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vaccines we have to get. Sofor me, it's just another vaccine that
we're required to have to not diefrom a relatively common disease. Yeah,
I agree, and I just wantto and like I said, once I
say this, I'm gonna get offof it. But you know, it's
funny because you know, have youever heard the little joke that they would
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say when the man was it wasa flood or storm coming, and the
man said he was gonna wait tillGod coming and help him in three you
know, I think was the boat, then the helicopter, you know,
and then he went to God andsaid, you know, well I thought
you was gonna help me here,and God said, well, I sent
you to help you know. That'show I kind of feel about this COVID
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shot, this vaccine I personally,and this is just my personal belief.
It's not the market the beas youknow, because it says it's going to
be a piercing of the skin that'sup under the scan. It's a shot,
just like people turned the shot intoa piercing of the skin. Because
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a shot does break your skin,and that's considered a piercing. I don't.
I don't personally, I don't know. I don't believe that. No,
right, I don't. I'm I'mnot disagreeing with you. What happened
when the vaccine came out was alot of biblical scholars, a lot of
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theologians, twisted the information they weregiven and and misapplied it to the information
they had about the vaccine, whichin turn put it out there that it
was a mark and it would changeyour DNA, and it would you know,
vaccines don't change your DNA first ofall, Like like the people said,
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you know, that was one ofthe main things that came out,
will change the DNA, will doall this, And that's the mark.
That's not the mark. And Ithink people have to remember whenever you hear
something like that, the Word tellsus to test any information you get,
you are to test it by theword of God. Yes, so the
mark of the beasts. When youread about the mark of the beast your
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forehead, and when you read aboutthe mark of the beast, and you
listen to what everybody was saying aboutthe vaccine, they don't match up.
So it was only confusing to peoplethat listened to what they heard and didn't
test it by the word of God. Well, you know what, speaking
of the park of the Peace onyour forehead, I saw faith. But
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somebody had uh bak America greater gadcap On than that said that was the
mark of the beast. So Isaid, well, that's interesting. But
I say that because I just,I just truly believe that. You know,
the vaccine is just like you said, another vaccine. And I say
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that because I took I took theshot. It still got COVID. Uh
huh. It didn't help. Itain't help. I still got it.
I mean, I didn't die phraseGod for that. But I just think
when we listened to God's instructions,it's best to I believe, it's best
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to pray to God that asks themtruly for clarity and revelation of the instruction.
You know, because we can't dealas us as believers can't deal or
are not supposed to deal with protocol. There's no protocol. You know.
God does what he want to do, how you want to do it,
when you want to do it.There's no protocol. You look up and
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you turn around and you'll be doingsomething. Does he don't care? He
do what he want to do,right, He had g like that.
That's why I love about it.He had g just like that. They
do what he want to do.So what chop? So do it?
You know what I'm saying. That'swhat he tells me. I don't care
do it? And I think too. It's it's important to remember when you
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are faced with you know, Ithink sometimes you have to get religion out
of your head, protocol out ofyour head, and just the institution of
what you've been taught. Excuse me, um, if you're if you're really
going to follow Guy's instruction, becausenine times I tended God's instruction will go
against everything you've ever been conditioned tobelieve. You know what I'm saying.
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There's so many things that we're doingright now, you and I just as
individuals and as a couple, thatdon't make any sense. You know when
you think about protocol and how thingsare supposed to go. And there are
things that we're you know, blessingsand just things that are happening in our
lives that have nothing to do aprotocol. And that's because we've yielded to
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the instruction of God, and there'sa definite benefit in yielding to the instruction
and not being so concerned about protocol. The main thing is, you know,
you are blessed to not have tobe so concerned about everything, because
if God is handling it, God'shandling it, you don't have to keep
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putting your hand in it and keepworking. You know, if you say
you are about this walk, youhave to have faith to do it,
but you also have to have thediscipline and the commitment to just let God
be God, let him do whathe's gonna do. Protocol means I'm looking
at this list and I'm gonna makesure I hit all these bullet points on
this list, and I'm gonna makesure I meet with this person and talk
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to that person, and you know, do a letter about that. And
you ain't gotta do all that notIf you say you're following God's instruction,
He'll tell you exactly what to do, when to do, how to do,
and that takes all the stress offof you. Which is why I
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don't understand why people struggle when listeningto God and doing what God tells you
to do, because in the grandscheme of things, It takes so much
stress and pressure off of you tojust let God do whatever he's going to
do for you and through you.It's so much easier. Yeah. Well,
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you know, I believe maybe somepeople think protocol is not a bad
thing though it's it's it's familiar.Yeah, you know, protocol is a
familiar act. This is what Ido. I do it in this order
and this this that order. Youknow, I like a program. Yeah,
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some people like program. I can'tstand program. Don't give me I
aint I ain't get one of themore programs. Well, when you have
to let God do what he's gonnado and let him be who he's gonna
be, and he's not gonna fitin a in a program or in a
specific time slot if that's not howhe wants to flow, right, Because
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I believe protocol will grieve the spiritand it will quench the spirit. You
don't want that. In layman's terms, what does that mean? That means
whatever you're doing, it's gonna stopperiods, your your blessings at the whole.
You know what it says, Iwill open up the windows of heaven
and pour our blessings. You see, the windows just start closing. We
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can start closing the windows. Weighon this. Close up the windows,
God, close them up, youknow, Gabriel, close the windows because
this, you know, we inthis, were in this bubble, and
there's and there's nothing wrong with havingorder in a No we're talking organizations things
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like that. There's nothing wrong withorder. However, you can you can
order something to death. You know, you can have so much order and
so much protocol and so much routineof a thing that you just totally remove
God out of it. So weain't gonna read the bibble balls in the
back of the heavenows no more.I ain't doing it no more. I
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ain't reading the more. I thinkthe only by law that should be in
the back of the him though,should be we all as agree as a
congregation or as children of God,to let God have his way. Well,
you know what, I agree withthat. And you know what,
and and don't get me wrong,if you out there like your by laws,
like them, I love them.I just can't do it no more
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because I'm in a place where Idon't think I want protocol anymore. I
don't think it's I don't think it'suh, I don't think it helps me
any Well, here's and here's here'sthe thing too about when you when you
say you're following the instructions of Godand you're being obedient to God. I
guess for me it kind of sometimesit does boil down to just common sense.
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If you say, you know you'regonna listen to God. God knows
everything, right, He knows howthings are going to be. He knows
your past, your present, yourfuture. So following his instructions just automatically
means that it's preparing you for thefuture. Right, Yeah, So if
you're if you're listening to the onethat knows the future, has control over
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the future, and he's preparing youfor the future, where does protocol going
fit in there? It doesn't.But the thing about that is it's not
familiar. You follow what I'm saying. We all know from back in the
day when we weren't about this walkthat the familiar is dangerous, that's right.
But it was familiar. Yeah,got you in trouble, but it
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was familiar. You do what wasgoing to happen here? You know?
So it was like, okay,you telling me to follow the instructions of
God? All right, I said, let's take Oh kay, let's take
me for us. When I wasn'ta believer. Okay, I knew God,
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I knew God. I heard ofGod, I heard what God could
do. I heard God and thatthis God did that. But I didn't
know Jesus. So my thing wasthis, why would I except Jesus in
my life? I don't even knowwhat you And first of all, hey,
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I can go straight to the straightto the man God, God does
this. But that not knowing thatthis was the instruction, except Jesus as
your personal save your Lord. Thenyou know, you know when I came
up, I didn't know Jesus saidI am the way the truth in the
life. No, man, youknow, that's the instructions here. But
I said, hey, I knowGod. God is what I know.
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I don't know Jesus. So whatthat following that instruction? It hindered me
from getting closer to God. Butthe thing I say, what I'm saying
is when you say, okay,you receive Jesus as your personal saving on
lord and you get this instruction andyou're like, well wait a minute,
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that don't even sound right. That'sbananas to do this. I can't protocol
this is what I know. Iknow how to do this. This then
that, this, this is thefamiliar. The instructions of God are mind
blow away. Yes, it blowsyour mind when you sit back and you
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hear the instruction. When you clearlyhear the instruction, you like God Lord,
I don't. And he's very firmand stern on what he says.
Yes, you know, very stern. You know, just like what what
he said to what Jonah going tonone of us. You know, he's
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very The instructions was very clear,you know. It wasn't about you know,
and Jonah he didn't want to doit. He didn't want to do
it right. And the funny thingabout that was once he got out of
the belly of the fish right andgot up on the land, God said
the same thing and did not itdid not this something beat the same instructions
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he told him. Then it wasthe same instruction when he got thrown up
on the on the on the land. Now go do this, chump.
I ain't got time to sing.But just just just a disclaimer, The
Bible does not say chump. Okay, well I threw that, now I
threw that in that y'all. Butthat's how he beat you know. You
know what again, that's what wealways try to put God in this bubble,
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you know, Jesus in this bubble. You know Jesus when you know
when he comes out. Dude,I ain't trying to mess with you like
that chump. He just say chumplike you know, like this, this,
that another. But the instructions aretrue. The instructions are all through
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the Bible. And I believe protocolhas no place for a believer or a
Christian. It just it just don'twork. And where we are, you
know, it don't work in anythingthat we do right, right, especially
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especially when you receive the spirit ofthe Holy Ghost. When you will see
the spirit of the Holy Ghost,there is normal protocol. You can hang
that up. It's done. Don'tthink you know it's funny. I was
talking to a brother just the otherday and we were talking about like when
we prepared to give a word.Now, you do all this studying and
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you do all this writing down andyou got full five pages of what you're
gonna get into the congregation. YouI mean, you got a fiery message,
fiery and you get up there anddon't read none of it, right,
none of it. You know.It's a song that I like to
hear by the Foreign Exchange. Andhe speaks on He says, God is
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laughing at your plans. He's alwayslaughing at our plans because you're what you
think you're about to do. It'snot the instructions. You're about to do
this, right, Yeah, that'swhy I believe. He says, the
instruction be ready in season and outof the season. He says, you
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know, precept upon precept, preceptupon precept, line upon line, here,
a little, there, a little. You know, these are instructions.
You know, gets ready study toshow my self approvals, instructions.
You know, the Ten Commandments areinstructions. You know the Bible. What
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does the Bible is? Uh?What what is the acronym for the Bible?
I don't know. Basic instructions beforeleaving Earth. That's instructions, right,
that's the instruction. So where doesthe protocol come in? I'm I'm
gonna say, I'm gonna slide thisright back to you. Where is protocol
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at for us as Christians? Whatdo do we have anything to do?
What do you say that, Imean protocol work for us in any way?
Um? No, because now,because protocol is man's measure of how
things should be done, period.And if you are a spirit field Christian
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or trying to be a spirit feeledChristian, the instructions of God and protocol
will always conflict. There always besomething in between the two that won't make
sense to you or won't line upwith the other. Because God's instruction,
you know, nothing can match hisinstruction, so protocol will never it will
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never line up. I agree,Well, thank you, I agree,
you know, bless you. That'sjust like, uh, let's let's sleeve,
you know, like the instruction thathe gave uh that built the arc.
He gave him the instructions and hewas very detailed, right. Who
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was my man that built the arc? No? What yeh? He built
his art and the instructions from Godwas very detailed, right. So just
say, if he was off ameasurement, it could have just messed up
the whole whole arcut. Which iswhy it's important when you get an instruction
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from God that you follow the instruction, yes, because going off just one
hair can mess up everything. Andalso said you up for rebut because how
many times have you and I knowI'm talking, I know I'm talking to
today. You know how many timesas God told you to do something and
you kind of inserted your own thoughtsinto it, just for him to come
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back and be like, that's notwhat I told you to do? Now
what I said? Well sometimes youknow, yeah, I know as human
as human beings, we are subjectto make mistakes, and we definitely we
put ourselves in situations when we needto just do what we're told. Now,
if you, if you know,as you when you're growing up as
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a child, your parents always toldyou, just do what I tell you
to do, Do what you're told. When you're dealing with God, do
what you're told, you know,but it's so hard because you you know,
you you grow up and you're educatedand you've been a you know,
different type of schools, and yougot all these degrees and certificates, and
God come along to start doing stuffand you'd be like, well, you
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know, it'd be better. Imean, I'll do this, but you
know it'd be nice if I couldadd this little piece to it. And
he didn't ask you to help himout, and he didn't ask you to
insert your thoughts into any of it. Do what he said, and that's
that is something that you have tolearn how to do and you have to
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train yourself to do. You know, it's not it's not gonna you're not.
You may not start out doing itthe right way every single time,
but don't beat yourself up about it. Just do better the next time.
The next time he tells you todo something, do better until it is
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a habit that whenever he tells youto do something, you do it right
like he told you to do.You know, it's it's like a muscle.
You have to train it until youget to that place where you're just
doing it without even thinking about it, because it will you will get there,
you know, you get to thatplace so you're just doing what he
told you to do. You're noteven thinking about no more. You know,
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you have to train your mind tonot even put your own thoughts into,
you know, what he's telling youto do, because that's how you
get tripped up, and sometimes that'show you how you mess up your blessing.
You know. But if you ifyou find that you're making those mistakes,
it's okay. Just talk to guyabout it. He knows you made
a mistake, tell him you sorry, and get back on track. Yeah.
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But the thing about that is,you know, in this fast paced
world that we're in now, it'svery hard, very hard to even what
I want to say, listen toinstructions, you know, because you're so
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valled down with the world. Whatwhat do you what do you think?
What do you think about that?It's that's actually a very good point.
It is very hard um to listento and do what God is telling you
to do because we just naturally wantto keep going, going, going,
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moving, moving. And I havelearned over the last couple of years,
especially these last really this last sixmonths, and I'll credit got had prayer
ministry into that, because I've hadto learn how to slow down. You
know, I've had to learn whenGod gives me an instruction, I've had
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to learn to just sit down andgo into prayer about the instruction. You
know, sometimes he gives you aninstruction, we have to ask when because
everything he says isn't for you tojump out and do ten minutes later.
You know, Sometimes he's telling youto do something because you have to prepare.
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You know, there are some thingsHe's told me to do that you
know, you know about I'm preparingfor those things. I can't just up
and do it because it's not that'snot how he instructed me to do it.
But I've had to teach myself toslow down and be patient and and
you know, keep talking to himabout what he's telling me to do.
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So when I when it is timefor me to do it, I do
it the right way. I think. If I don't have I don't have
very many fears. But one fearI do have, or I have had,
is fear of saying I'm doing somethingfor God and messing it all up
because I wasn't patient enough, youknow, and everybody that knows me know
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that sometimes patient is my struggle,you know. But I've had to learn
how to just sit down and letGod show me how things are going to
manifest or how I'm going to dowhatever he's telling me I should do.
Yeah, that's good, and that'salso a learned You really have to train
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yourself. And like you said,because we're in a world where everything is
so fast paced and everything is instant, and you know, everything is available
to you right away. It's literallywhat you need you can get off your
phone, you know, So whenyou're in that world where everything is available
to you right away. How doyou bring yourself back down to waiting on
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God? Yeah, yeah, it'sgood. That's good. Well, you
know we're coming up on the clothes. And I just want to share this
with our family out there. Youknow, when we come with well,
we come with on this mic,it's instructions. We are being instructed by
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God in the Holy Spirit to comeon this mic and give this word.
And I just want to share thiswith our people out there as and this
is at the well. I guessthis is the simple bliss for him.
How I can express God's instruction.I was a chef at one time,
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and I worked at this nice restaurantthere in the kind of the hotel which
is here in Cleveland, Ohio.And at that time, I was working
for a four star restaurant and Iworked up under a pastry chef and she
would give me instructions on how tomake either be nine bread or a cake,
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and I personally I would say,okay, well maybe I missed maybe
a cup of that or a cupof that, and that would just throw
off the whole recipe, I meanthe whole batch and we would have to
waste it. And she explained tome. She said, Bruce, you
have to follow the instructions exactly howit is. Now, nothing is perfect
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but God and Jesus. But thisis what probably the closest you can get
to perfection. And that's when you'redoing your baking. Anybody that's a baker
knows this. It has to beexactly. A cup of this, a
couple of that, this that orother. If you're off, it's going
to mess up the whole batch.I say that to say this. God's
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instructions are never off. It's alwaysperfect. It's always does what it said
it's going to do. He said, I'm going to perform my word and
it will not turn back void.And I want to say this in closing,
for those who are even wondering aboutthis, Jesus said, those who
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are a heavy laden, I willgive you rest. And I'm paraphrasing.
He says, take my yoke.He said, my yoke is easy and
my burden is light. When wethink about the yoke, the yoke guides
you. That's what's on the ox. It guides you. It's instruct it's
an instruction. He said. It'seasy and it's light. It won't hurt
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you. I just want to giveour audience encouragement to take the yoke,
to listen to the instructions of theLord. He will not steer you wrong.
He will always put you in aplace where you need to be.
Not protocol, but instructions. Instructionsis what we need. You know,
our parents gave us instructions the leadersin the right way, and some of
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us listened and some of us hadto learn the hard way. But Jesus
has always been with us out ofthe womb. So if you can just
take the time to listen to theinstructions of what God has given you,
I guarantee you you will not gowrong. I guarantee it. With that
being said, I'm gonna let mywife finish us out. I know she
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got some things to say and I'mdone. You know, let him know
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