The Jack Berkovits Show - March 31, 2025 - US Politics, Crime and Much More with Ann Vandersteel, Maureen Steele and Leighton Grey - The Jack Berkovits Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
The richest province in Canada is poorer than the poorest.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
State in the United States.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
You know that Canadians are now poorer per capita with
regard to GDP than people who live in Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
That's all happened since Trudeau, all of it.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Canada was basically a parody a decade ago, and the
Americans are basically forty percent you know, and you can
see why. Because what happens is that as soon as
you're successful anywhere in the world, if you have any sense,
you moved to the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Because everything is way easier here. Good morning, good morning,
good morning, good morning. It's Monday. And when I say
good morning, with all that enthusiasm, guess why we now
have listeners all the way to India. They're listening to
the Jack Burke of his show in the GTA, all

(01:30):
of Toronto, all of Ontario, all of Canada, all of
the United States, in Israel, and now in India. How
do I know that, I know that because they contact
me to tell me these things. And yesterday there I
was sitting all by myself at my main store at
the Laurence Allen Center, just minding my own business, thinking

(01:51):
about today's show, when this lovely lady, her name is Gizila.
Gizilla came up to me and seemed friendly, but thrust
a finger in my face and said, why do you
hate Donald Trump? I want to go on the record,
I'm one of the very few people in the world
that is very ambivalent about Donald Trump, meaning what, I

(02:13):
hate the man with a passion because he represents everything vile.
He's a despicable, narcissistic, garbage man. But I'm one of
the few people in the world who sees that, but
also is willing to give him credit for the great
things that he's doing. So while I don't agree with
everything he does, it's enough that I agree with some

(02:33):
of the things that he does. For instance, his stance
on illegal aliens. Kudos to him. Only he could have
done what he's doing. He's cut the immigration of illegals
into America to zero zero. He did that in about
four weeks since he took office. Unbelievable. No one else

(02:54):
could have done it. He's also I believe going to
impact on crime. I'm by a tremendous amount of percentage
and numbers. Today, trials are starting in the United States
about the murder of a miss Moran who was viciously
raped and killed, a mother of five. There are so
many other acts of massive, major, egregious crime committed by

(03:19):
illegal aliens and they were going unpunished. The gentleman who's
going on trial today was ordered deported in twenty twenty three,
and yet he's still in the United States committing his crimes. Well,
not anymore. There's so much else that Donald Trump is
doing that's fantastic. Will you accomplish any of it? I

(03:39):
don't know. His peace initiative in the Ukraine is falling apart,
not because of Zelensky, who is trying to renege on
the deal that was forced upon him about the rare
earths that he was going to give over to the
United States. Yeah, he's trying to get out of that deal.
What does he want. He wants NATO membership, That's what
this is about. He wants to be protected by NATO.

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And Trump says, well, he was never going to be
admitted in to NATO, so that's off the table. And
if he doesn't go through with a deal, he's got big,
big problem, says Donald Trump. On the other side of
that same agreement, you've got Vladimir Putin, who now says
as a precondition to anything, he wants the removal of
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski. Why he's not a legitimate representative

(04:26):
of the country. Whoa Vladimir Putin, who has not had
a re election in twenty five years, is pointing a
finger at Zelensky to say he does not represent the
Ukrainian people whoa So now Donald Trump is threatening his
so called buddy Vladimir Putin, saying if he does not

(04:48):
come forward with a cease fire or agree to a deal,
that I'm going to broke her. I'm going to double
sanction him. And if I double sanction him, guess what
this means. That means that American and any company that
buys energy, because that's really all the export, any company,
any country in the world that buys Russian oil will
have to pay a price of not being able to

(05:09):
deal in the United States. So who are we talking about.
We're talking about India. America and India are on incredibly
good terms and Donald Trump is now threatening India. He
may do this, he may actually do this that if
India buys their energy from Russia, it's all over for
America in India. It's a very common trick that everybody uses,

(05:31):
trying to force people who are on the sidelines to
make a choice. Is it them or is it us?
People do this all the time. I'm at war with him,
Therefore you must be at war with him to show
support for me, or I will be at war with you.
And only bullies can get away with that. Well, that's
what I don't like about Donald Trump. He's a bully.

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Until Donald Trump came into office, there was no greater
relationship of neighbors in the world than Canada and the
United States. This is not Palestine, this is not India Pakistan,
this is not Turkey and Syria. This is America in Canada.
And guess what, starting on Tuesday night at midnight, We're

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going to go to war unless we don't go to war.
And what do I mean by that? Donald Trump has
been known to change his mind, and Donald Trump has
been known to be bluffing, So I don't know if
he's bluffing, and I don't know if he's going to
change his mind. But the very idea, the notion, the
thought that America and Canada could go to a tariff

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war a mere six weeks after Donald Trump assumed office
is not something I can absorb, and I refuse to absorb.
So here's my theory. My theory is that he will
change his mind. There is no way that the president
of the United States is prepared to go to war,
and I'm talking economic war against the best neighbor in

(06:58):
the world. It doesn't make any sense. What else is
going on in the world. Well, in Gaza, the war
that had a ceasefire, which no longer has a ceasefire.
Israel's pointing a finger at Hamas and says they don't
They're backing out. They don't want to do this. Just
give us back our hostages. Hamasa is saying, we agree
to the whitcough plan, but it's Israel that doesn't want

(07:18):
to agree to the original ceasefire. Steve Whitcoff, the representative
of the United States and the best friend that Donald Trump,
says no, it was Hammas who renect on my proposition
and the ceasefire that's been in place. What's going to
happen there. Well, the latest is that Israel has told
all the the residents of Rafa, the city to the south,

(07:40):
get out of our way. We're coming, which means a
ground invasion, which means Israel's going to obliterate whatever remains
in Gaza. And I say, yes, it's about time. Donald Trump.
One of the great things he's done, probably the greatest
thing he's done, is he's unshackled Benjamin ta Yahoo, and

(08:02):
he said, do what you have to do. These are crazy, crazy, vicious,
vicious people. There is no one else in the world
like them. And to that end, to that end, Odey
al Rabei he was twenty two years old, but he
had the audacity, the nerve, the Hutspah to appear at

(08:25):
a rally against Hamas just the other day. Today he's dead.
He's a former twenty two year old man. How did
he die? He was arrested by Hamas. He was brutally tortured.
His body was torn apart. He was dragged through the
streets of Hamas of Gaza and dumped at the foot

(08:45):
of the front door of his family home. Let me
repeat what I just said. A twenty two year old
man by the name of Adai al Rabbei had the
audacity to appear at a rally protesting Hamas. We don't
want the war and we don't want Hamas because Hamas

(09:07):
is war. They arrested him, they tortured him, they dragged
him through the streets of Gaza, and they dumped his
lifeless body at the foot at the front door of
his family residence. And you'll say why him, Well, he
must have been very vocal, must have been very recognized.

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But it wasn't just him. Reports have it that at
least seven others have been murdered by Hamas because they
dared speak out against the war. There are cracks, There
are cracks in the lining of the walls, of the
floors of Hamas. The people either have changed their position
and where they were rooting for Hamas and the destruction

(09:50):
of all Israel, all Jews anywhere in the world, they
are now saying, maybe the problem is Hamas, and this
will grow, this will fester, this will get out of control.
But my real question is my real question is where
are the demonstrators in America? Where are the people who
want the world to know that Israel and Zionists and

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Jews are the devil, and they're out to eradicate the Palestinians,
and they must protect the Palestinians. Where are those people
who continue to this minute to demonstrate on behalf of
Hamas a terrorist organization the likes of which the world
has never seen. The most vile word in the English

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language is Nazi. Nazi should now be replaced by Hamas.
There has never been a people more despicable, more violent,
more egregious, more outrageous, more deadly than Hamas. They kill
for the fun of it. At least the Nazis felt
they had a motive kill the Jews. We don't want

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Jews in the world. Hamas doesn't really care. Jews are
number one on the list, America's number two on the list.
The Western world is number three on the list. And
this is who we're cheering for in American University. So
getting back to my position on Donald Trump, you bet
your sweet Bippy that I hate the man and love

(11:18):
some of his positions and platforms. The biggest one, the
most beloved one, is his absolute hatred for Hamas. And
those of you out there who are listening to this
show who do not wish for the demise and the
death any way possible for Hamas's death are enabling and

(11:39):
empowering the death of the Western world. Yes, that's how
serious this is. I have so much more to say,
and I'll be back to say it right after this.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
No Radio, No problem. Stream is live on SADAY ninety
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Speaker 3 (12:26):
We're back. We're back, without a clip, without a clip,
We're back. Hi, I've got a call. Do I have
a call? Thatw what you're telling me?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
We do?

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
How are you? What's your name? Please?

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yes, good morning, mister buka Vic, Good morning. Listen. Yeah,
we're not seeing anything yet. Trump is like a puppet,
you know. The elite rules the wall, and this world
going to become one all the country is good. It's

(13:01):
going to be one world government, one world money or money,
one world religion. So you ain't even seen smoke yet.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I can't agree with you, unfortunately. First of all, I
don't think it's a desirable thing, and I don't think
anybody wants that. I mean, we have differences.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
No, we don't want that, but it will become that.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
No, No, it will never become that. There's always going
to be communists, there's always going to be capitalist, there's
always going to be people who worship one God versus
people who worship another God, or at least have different
ways to worship the one God. We need differences, It's
always going to be we have to have differences. So
those are differences that we should be able to live
with together. You can worship your God, let me worship mine.

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I have to respect you and you have to respect me.
You don't have to love me, and I don't have
to love you. But we have to have differences, because
that's what makes life interesting. If we all are if
the whole world is Islam, and what are we you know,
I mean, there's got to be a position where I
don't agree with you and it's okay for me not
to agree with you. And as far as that's all.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
Right, yeah, well listen, but you will see we will
see so much changes rapidly.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, the world is changing at a faster clip than
it's ever changed before. I'm not sure if all the
changes are for the better. But there will always be
people who like crime, who want to kill other people,
and there will always be people who want to put
those people away into jails. It's it's it's always we're
not we're all born different and we should respect and
you actually appreciate the difference between us. You know there

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are men and okay, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
We are living in a good time. We could say
living also in not so nice time. Yes, you're right,
islands around you. You're a Bible believe in man Torah,
So we're going to see a lot, a lot of change.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
I totally agree with you. Thank you very very much,
spread of foc call. I really appreciate your call. As
a matter of fact, this lady you've called for the
first time a few weeks ago, and we turned that
into a commercial because it was such a genuine call,
especially when she said, I love you. Do you have
that commercial that we can just run for a second.
Let me see if you can find it. In the meantime,
I was talking about what's going on in the world

(15:18):
and the change is happening. This woman, Giselle or Gizella.
Why do I hate Trump? I don't hate Trump. I
hate who he is. I hate what he is. I
love some of the things he's doing, and in particular,
I love the fact that he sees there's a moral
clarity for him and certain things including illegal immigration, crime

(15:38):
punishment and crime Israel and the Palestinians, Israel and Hamas.
He's very very clear on that. Now, as far as
it's the clearest thinking president we have ever had in
the United States. Now, let's talk about what's going on
in Canada and his effect on Canada, and that is
we're going to find out tomorrow night at midnight whether

(16:01):
he's actually going through with his threat of a twenty
five percent tax on the auto industry and on everything else.
The people I talk to, who are very very well informed,
have told me that he would not dare change his
mind again. He's going to go through with it. And
I asked them why he would not change his mind,

(16:22):
and they say, because of egg on his face. He
can't continue to change his mind. I said, then, you
don't know Donald Trump. Donald Trump has no problem backtracking
on something he said a minute ago. Donald Trump is
devoid of shame, He's devoid of embarrassment. He does devoid
of any feeling of So what if I said that yesterday,

(16:42):
Today's a different day. Donald Trump goes in the wherever
the wind blows and wherever he thinks he's going to
get maximum positive coverage in the press. Donald Trump is
motivated not because he cares about people, because he's not
capable of caring about people. Donald Trump is motivated not

(17:02):
by a sense of right or wrong, because he doesn't
care about right or wrong. Donald Trump is motivated about
leaving a legacy that will last forever. Donald Trump wants
his name on hotels, on buildings, on parks, on highways,
on cities, on countries, on the world. Donald Trump cares

(17:24):
only about the name Trump. That's all he cares about.
I don't think he has feelings, even for his own
children and family. He is devoid of feelings. Donald Trump
is a you know, take the T out of Trump,
and that's what he is. Man. He's thinking, Now, how
do you spell rump? He's a rump, That's what Donald

(17:46):
Trump is. Having said that, I'm prepared to let him
do the good things that he's doing, and I'm prepared
to tell you my thoughts, which are that he is
a danger to the world. Having said that, given a
choice of whoever was behind Joe Biden and whatever Kamala

(18:08):
Harris was, do I want that or do I want Trump?
And there is no question whatsoever that I would have
voted for Trump. Now that seems like an oxymoronic position
to take. How do you hate a man and how
do you say that he's a danger to the world,
and yet say vote for him because the alternative is

(18:29):
Kamala Harris. And I say, yes, it's maybe moronic, maybe oxymoronic,
But I think that Trump will given that things go
the way that we want them to go. He's the
man to do it. He's already done it. On immigration.
You watch crime, give him a chance. Crime will come

(18:49):
down dramatically. You watch. There will be inflation in the
United States because if he goes forward with his tariffs
on the world, everything coming into America will go up
in price in the short term. In the long term,
I am not convinced as an economist, as an accountant,
I am not convinced that tariffs are a bad thing

(19:10):
long term, meaning it will take us several years. But
America's manufacturing expertise will come to the fore and they
will produce cars in America and it will cost them
less than cars in the United States. They will produce chips,
computer chips, and they won't have to come from China.
They will produce all kinds of medications and they don't

(19:31):
have to come from China. And at the end of
the day, America is so technologically advanced that even with
their higher wages on products that are produced on mass
and very very large quantities, there will be an offset
to the technology being used in America and the ingenuity
used in America. It will offset the extra cost of

(19:52):
labor to produce things because America will find a way
to reduce the efficiencies of the man but increase the
efficiencies of the technology. Technology will far outweigh manpower costs.
In addition, Trump has now said something several times, and

(20:13):
it is scary. What has Trump said that is scary
more so than all the other things that he said
that are scary. Trump has said that there's a way
to get him elected for a third term. Now again,
I don't have a problem with a successful president that
the people want in place in power. I don't see

(20:35):
why there should be a limit of two terms. It
makes no sense to me. If you're doing well, go
for a third, go for a fourth, wait till you
screw up before you get voted out of power. But
it should be by the people, not by the constitution.
So yes, I would love to see a successful president
go a third and fourth and fifth term. But that's

(20:58):
not possible. Why because the US Constitution says it's not possible.
And now Donald Trump is already hinting, and I don't
believe he's joking. I'm convinced he's not joking. He's putting
into place a process of changing the US Constitution to
accommodate his need to stay in power, and that, ladies
and gentlemen, is very, very dangerous. It's one thing for

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Donald Trump to do all of that when he's not president.
Anybody who's out there right now, one of the three
hundred and fifty million people in the United States who
wants to start a movement to change the constitution so
that a president can stay in power more than two terms,
I'm totally on site. But for a president to change
the constitution so that he can stay in power, wow,

(21:44):
the only way I would think that that's a good thing.
The way to do it such that it's acceptable is
to have a nationwide referendum. If the people feel that
a president should be allowed to stay in power, then
let the people vote directly on that issue, no other way.
Canadian election, We're going to talk about that later, but

(22:07):
the Canadian election is coming up April twenty eighth. It's
literally in four weeks and what's it boiling down to?
There are two elements that make this election incredibly important.
One is the Donald Trump effect. Donald Trump will impact.
It's called election interference if you ask me, and it
should be illegal. It's certainly stupid on his part. But

(22:27):
he is now going to endorse either Carney or Poliev.
And it looks like it's Carney because word got out
on Friday that he had a great conversation and he
wants to negotiate after the elections with Carney. Is that
not a message to the Canadian people that I like Carney?
Why does he like Carne because he thinks that Polief
said something negative about him. That's what makes this man dangerous.

(22:51):
I don't like what he said about me. Therefore I
don't want him in power. Therefore, the Canadian people should
not vote for Polief, vote for the Liberals, even though
the week before that he said I don't like the Liberals.
He certainly doesn't like Justin Trudeau. Liberals are no good
for me. He's gained Donald Trump. He doesn't care what
he said yesterday. It's what he says today until it's

(23:12):
what he said, he told you what he says tomorrow.
But what is the effect of Donald Trump. Is the
effect of Donald Trump good when he endorses Carney? Is
that good for Carney? I'm not sure because right now
we don't like Donald Trump. Oh my gosh, I have
so much more to tell you. I have so much
more to tell you. I have a very special guest
coming up after this break, Jack Berkowitz, be back. I'll

(23:35):
be back. You should be back right after this.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
You asked, stream us Live at SAGA nine am dot C.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
We are back, and I am honored, and I'm pleased
to have not one guest, but two. I've got Anne
vander Steele and and Maureen Steele with me. Correct me
if I'm wrong. And but you've done it all, and
so has Maureen. I'm You're. You guys are amazing. You're
you're president and chair of the Zelenko Freedom Foundation, your
host of an incredible podcast called Right Now with Anne

(24:33):
vander Steel. You are an expert on American security, Canadian security.
You're an expert on the Canada US trade war. You've
written stuff. You are highly highly popular on all media.
You've been interviewed by the whole world and now finally
you've reached you've reached the pinnacle, and you're on the
Jack Berkovitz Show. Noak, this is great for you and
certainly much greater for me. Of course, I'm I'm kidding

(24:55):
about the last part of it. Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
It's all good, Jack.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Where are.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Maureen and I are currently in Scottsdale, Arizona. We're into
meetings today. We were actually co founders of the American
Maid Foundation and American Made Action. We've taken as a
Linko Freedom Foundation and repurposed it into one of a
of an two organizations now that are actually very laser
focused on taking out the corruption in our government. Specifically,

(25:28):
we have what we call our Department of Government Accountability,
and we're looking directly at agency government, which is unconstitutional,
and the federal judiciary. The legal system. Our judicial system
is completely lawless and corrupt. It's just become nothing but
a weaponized group of thugs wearing black robes, carrying you know,
their membership at the Barcard Mafia, and they're they're you know,

(25:50):
activating in their activist judges and they're trying to destroy America.
And they've done a pretty good job to be honest,
because they've derailed a lot of what could have been
good and they're turning it into our own feetom So
we are not uh, we're here to help the victims,
but we're not here to help the victims by one
on one cases. We're here to help the victims by
going out to the head of the snake. So you

(26:11):
you're getting a lot of support.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
You're you're a doge before dojeja. Yeah, your dog, You're
a doja before dog. Yeah. Absolutely. And so are you
talking about corruption and government and corruption in the courts?
So are you talking about corruption in business? What kind

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of corruption are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (26:36):
Well, I'm gonna let Mareen talk about course, I'll talk
about the government itself. Our government. When you look at
the constitutions, the you know, the the agency government that
we have today is nowhere near what we are supposed
to be operating as today. We are way out of bounds,
way way way out of bounds. We have far too
many agencies that were never approved by the founding Fathers,

(26:58):
were not in our original charters or freedom. Maureen likes
to call our Constitution and our Declaration the greatest love
letter to America, and it is because it was very
clear what government is supposed to do and definitely what
it's not supposed to do. And today we have a
government that's doing a whole bunch of stuff it was
never intended to do. And I believe, you know, President
Trump understands that the conversations we're having around the Irs,

(27:22):
the FED. Look what he just did in the Department
of Education. To me, that's a major shot across the
bow to the deep state that has been in control
of our government for one hundred plus years, to say, look,
we're taking our power back. And Trump told us that
in twenty seventeen he was going to restore power back
to the people, transferred from the small globalist fall back
to the people. And I believe now after four years

(27:44):
of tyranny under Biden, Americans are ready to receive that
responsibility that we've always had as according to our constitution
that starts off with we the people. We are the government.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
So I have stayed a time in again that the
biggest fraud perpetrated on the American people are the whole
world was the notion that there's a president by the
name of Joe Biden, who was the president for the
last four years.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
That's a great question, Jack. You know, I was actually
at an event this past weekend. You're gonna laugh when
you hear this, but really wonderful woman who was speaking
of it. She has the first and only bill that is,
you know, to address grooming of children. So she fought
a long war for her son who was groomed or
attempted to be groomed by his teacher, and she actually

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got a bill. And so it's being modeled and music
in a host of various ways. But she pointed some
pictures out to me that I thought was interesting. You know,
the CIA loved to create crisis actors. We've seen crisis
actors before. This isn't something new. They've got technology to
do it. But she looked at pictures. She told me
pictures of young Joe Biden and young Lee Harvey Oswald.

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And then she showed me a picture of Bo Biden,
Joe's brother, and Jack Ruby. And it's the strangest thing,
but they are identical.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
What does that mean to you?

Speaker 7 (29:06):
Well? What does it mean? I mean?

Speaker 6 (29:07):
What?

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Who?

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Who?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Who is?

Speaker 7 (29:09):
Joe Biden is the guy that we have today, the
guy that we thought we had fifteen twenty thirty years old.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Definitely nocause when I look.

Speaker 7 (29:16):
At Joe Biden, I don't know, I don't know. I
don't know who Joe Biden is. I'll tell you this much.
Joe Biden, whoever that guy was, was clearly had a
serious you know, he was seriously mentally ill. He was
you know, serious sundowner. He suffered from dementia. His wife
is I think, you know, clearly is somebody who perpetrates
elder abuse. So I mean, and I don't believe any

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of those people were making decisions. I think Dodd Whitehouse
was being run directly by Barack Obama and the former
team from West exact. Which how does that from the
Trump Way?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
How does that differ from January the sixth insurrection of
trying to take over the government, if that, if that's
what happened, But how does that how that one is
a coup from inside and one is a coup from
the outside. Why is one less of a crime than
the other? Why is there no investigationist who ran the
White House?

Speaker 7 (30:04):
Yeah, these are great questions, These are all fantastic questions.
And you know, frankly, people for the last so many
years have been saying, oh, don't worry the white hats
of got this, the white hats of got this. Well,
you know what, our government is not designed to be
run by a bunch of white hats. You know when
during the you know, when we set up America and
we set up and wrote our constitution, we won the

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revolutionary War. At the time, it was designed to be Hey, guys,
this is what we're doing me at this tub. We're
going to get the boys together and we're going to
go fight. We don't have any I mean, you know,
we can't have an untransparent government. We've got to be
totally transparent. And again, this is what Elon is doing
with doog right, total transparency. Here's where all the money went,
so that we can finally get riled up and be like,

(30:45):
you know, why are we paying income tax? It's not
even constitutional anyway, that's improven one hundred ways of Sunday. So,
you know, is there a difference between the coup from
the inside and the outside? No, there isn't. But both criminals.
Why isn't there an investigation? Well, I guess you got
to ask BONDI. But if Sam Bonding is are going
to respond with the rest after eight years of gathering
evidence that we've all been gathering on open source intelligence

(31:08):
and whatever they can do before the good guys in
the intelligence community, if they're not going to act on it, well,
the responsibility always comes back to weed people, which means
it's a local level. We have got to harness in
and reign in our own government at our local level,
because we can sort of shield around ourselves in our
counties and our municipalities to protect ourselves like they did
in call your County, Florida during COVID. They stood up

(31:29):
their bill of right sanctuary County, and I told the
federal government, we don't answer to your mandates and we're
not putting jabs in our bodies. If we want to,
we can't, but we're not going to do it because
you said so. And they immunize themselves from the federal tyranny.
And that's exactly what every county in America needs to
do right now. We can't control what they're going to
do with the dog. Clearly, it's a shame, it's an

(31:50):
insult that we don't see more actions, But we have
responsibility at home and that's where the responsibly rest with
read of people.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
So, speaking of responsibility, Elon told bred Bayer of Fox
News just the other day in an interview that there's
a platform called survey Monkey, and that can allow you
to do any type of survey you want at a
very minimal cost. In fact, a ten question survey on

(32:17):
survey monkey should cost ten thousand dollars. And he told
bred Bayer that the government, that Joe Biden government, did
a survey that was identical to what would have cost
ten thousand dollars on survey monkey, but it costs a
federal government one billion dollars. How does that happen? That's
just one example of the many hundreds of billions of

(32:40):
dollars that's being wasted every single year by the former government.
So I command you for DOJA. I commend you lo
On Musk and Donald Trump for doge. But how do
you go from ten thousand dollars to one billion dollars?

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Well, you know this is nothing new, unfortunately, Jack, because
you've got a whole system of corrupt individuals that have
figured out, because there are all little shell companies, how
to hide high money, high information. Look, they just found
fourteen computers that was printing money that nobody knows where
the money went. I mean I found who knows how

(33:16):
many billions or so, I even say trillions of dollars
were printed and nobody knows anything about it. They see
again the people we were infiltrated by a bunch of
people who were greedy, and the people you and me
were trusting our representatives. We didn't think that they would
ever do something. Business aias Stacey Aby weill operate mental.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Sacy Abrams founded an organization that had tax exempt status
and went from zero in the bank account to two
billion dollars in virtually zero time. How does one get approved? Right?
Two billion dollar grant and nobody knows where the money
is or what happened to the money. In Canada, here
we had a during COVID. In order to come in
and out of the country, we had to go through

(34:00):
in an online form called refcan and it never worked.
A rife can. Excuse me, a rife can and it
never worked. I fly a lot, I travel all over
the world for business, and I came back and every
single time I tried to come into Canada, the form
never worked. This was an app created by the Canadian
government that should have cost by all accounts, no more

(34:21):
than sixty thousand dollars. It came in at two hundred
million dollars, and the money was given to a firm
that worked out of a basement, to people by themselves
who never had anything to do, and they were given
two hundred million dollars. Not clearly they subcontracted it to
someone in India and probably did cost them ten thousand dollars,
but they got away with two hundred million dollars. I mean,

(34:44):
how it's taxpayer money? Who's doing all of this? And
how do we count?

Speaker 7 (34:50):
I know it's thank You's the only way, the only
way we're ever going to get accountability is with people
like you and me and Maureene and the people all
around us that are living in their home is mining
their own business, actually care enough to get involved. That's
what it comes down to. General Flynn is so clear
on this. He says local action has a national impact.
He's one hundred percent right. He's been saying that since
I first met the man in twenty sixteen, and I

(35:13):
really didn't fully get it. But when you sit back
and you look at what has happened, and that we've
centralized power, which something was never we were never supposed
to be a centralized power nation state. We were supposed
to be fifty independent sovereign states that unified in a
union and funded our common defense. Today we have a
centralized power structure that is raping every state in the

(35:34):
Union right now. And you know, if we want to
get serious about it. I did a piece the other
day why every amendment from eleven to twenty seven needs
to be repealed in our constitution. The Bill o Rights
are the only amendments we should have, and that protects
state sovereignty and Protexas from government large assent tyranny.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
If we don't go.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
Back to that, we again have only ourselves to blame.
The fourteenth Amendment that made us all US citizens was
the day we lost our sovereignty. That was the day
we became. We went from a man Americans electing our
public servants to US citizens voting in our dead slave masters.
It's super clear. It is super clear.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
It is super clear. My guest is Vander Steel and
Maureene Steel. I'll be back with the two of them
when we come back right after this.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
No Radio, No Problem stream is live on Sagay nine
sixty am dot C.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
A shallow lay the ill.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'm back and I'm honored again to continue to have
and Vander Steel and Maureen Steele, who are real warriors
in the fight against corruption, to fight against all the
the power that's been centralized and basically taken away and
stripped away from the from the states who are supposed
to be running their own independent states guy countries, and

(37:07):
the corruption that is rampant in America and probably all
over the world. You've got Maureen there, and I'd like
to get Marene's steak on the law fair that was
conducted to try to put Trump down and continues to
be conducted via the courts where Democrat appoint that judges

(37:29):
are blocking everything that Donald Trump's trying to do. What
do we do about that?

Speaker 8 (37:37):
Well, I think Pam Bondi needs to be doing something
about that. It's tragic that she isn't. There's enough evidence here,
I mean of criminal now seasons. It's not just you know,
and teach these guys they need to be, you know,
ripped off the bench, but they need to be in handcuff.
They're undermining a presidency, a duly elected president, the will

(38:00):
of the American people.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
District judge. These are district judges who are overruling the
president of the United States who was elected on a
very specific platform. We're talking about deportations, we're talking about crime,
we're talking about so many things which were the hallmark
of the platform of the president, and district judges are
absolutely blocking him. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (38:24):
Well, in the case of Boseburg and in many of
these judges that just came out a few days ago
that there isn't one judge that that's tried to block
Trump that didn't have a child or a spouse who
was getting money from these USAID funded in g os So.
And then what a coincidence? And then the and then
the judges come out and try to harm Trump over

(38:46):
the USA thing, like punishing him for that because their
families were on a free ride. I mean, it's it's
very clear these are you know, activist judges, and they've
got to go, uh and this is this is criminal activity.
This isn't you know when I when I see people posting,
you know, on x some of those surveys, you know,
should he be fired? These people shouldn't be fired. They

(39:07):
should be tried for treason and seditions. That's what they
should be tried for. I'm not just losing their job.
So it's it's just incredible times we're living in. And
I think the more this goes on, the more it's
waking up the rest of America as to how deep
seated the corruption goes. When you have district court judges

(39:28):
that whose power is very limited, their their job is
to interpret the law and to apply the law within
the confines of the United States Constitution, and they're not
doing that. Their job isn't to you know, undermine a presidency. Boseburg, incidentally,
in along with Justice Roberts, are part of that group
of five judges American in group where they their sole

(39:48):
purpose is to undermine President Trump. Again, this is against
canon law, which which is what governs you know, judges,
you know behavior. It's just it's it's just wild to
watch it happen and then watch, you know, the judiciary
do nothing about it. And they don't do anything about
it because they're in on it too.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
This is the bar.

Speaker 8 (40:07):
This is lawyers, judges, they're all in the same club here.
And when you look at even at Washington itself, when
you look at the Congress and the Senate, you know,
even Democrats and Republicans, you know, this isn't about MAGA anymore.
And oh, raw raw. Republicans their as corrupt as the Democrats.
And I think you can see that by their bank accounts.
You can't go to DC make one hundred and eighty

(40:29):
thousand dollars a year and four eight years later you
got fifty million dollars in the bank. It just doesn't
work like that. I wish it did. That would be
magic for me, you know, but only there. And it's
because they're taking bribes. And we're the only country in
the world that legalizes bribery and we call it lobbying.
So we have a corporatetocracy of what we have. You know,

(40:49):
these corporations are greasing, you know, agencies are greasing politicians.
We might have the most corrupt government in the world.
At least other governments that are wildly corrupt. Their right
out there in your face with it. They're hanging people
on the sidewalk. You know, we're doing it so covertly,
and people are suffering, and you know, they're telling us
there's no more social Security.

Speaker 7 (41:10):
It's because they're.

Speaker 8 (41:11):
Hijacking it, and you can you can see all of it.
Those has really ripped the veil off, and so you know,
so many, you know, more millions of people are seeing
it now that we're in denial before. But our judiciary
is corrupt, We're rotting from the inside.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
What do we do with a country that has Donald
Trump on the one hand and he's as Lieutenant Elon
Musk and on the other side, the leading candidates today
for the Democrats are aoc or Crockett and maybe Bernie Sanders,
who's an independent. I mean, where are we headed in
America right now?

Speaker 8 (41:44):
You know, don't I don't know. I mean, these are
interesting times. I think you have to tear it down.
I think all the truth has to come out. We
need to see it. As painful as it is to
see that our country, the country we believed was free,
you know, we're not. We're slaves in a slave system.
So I think it's going to be this is a
tough pill to swallow, but the truth has to come

(42:05):
out so that we can rise, so we can learn
from this and we can fix it, and the people
can come together and we can you know, reclaim our great,
our once great nation. But I think we're in for
some rough some rough days ahead for sure. But also
I think that these are exciting times we're the new
founding fathers. You know, we are going to create a
new country.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Now.

Speaker 8 (42:26):
I think I do believe that these these wrongdoers are
going to get the rug ripped out from under them
in ways that they don't even see coming. There are
people out there organizing, some very very smart, well moneyed people.
You know, there's more George soros Is out there, you
just don't know their names. And I think that they're
they're fighting on behalf of the people in freedom.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
And I think I'm going to change them the next
And Van der Steel and Maureen Steel, I'm going to
get fired if I don't go to a very short break.
I have no choice. I'll be back with the two
of you, great ladies with incredible cause. I'll be back
right after this.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Stream us live at SAGA nine sixty am dot c A.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
We're back, and my guests are and Vander Steel and
Maureen Steele, warriors on behalf of the American people. And
you have had conversations with what Donald Trump calls his superstar,
Tom Holman. The borders are uh. The single most identifiable
success in Donald Trump's arsenal so far has been the
immigration crisis. Would you agree with that, And what has

(43:49):
Tom Homan told you about that? Hello? Are you there?
Can you hear me? Yes?

Speaker 7 (44:02):
I'm sorry, Yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Just saying that Tom Holman is the borders are and
he's responsible for the single greatest obvious impact that Donald
Trump has had. He has stopped immigration cold Turkey, but
they're trying to stop And what has he told you?

Speaker 7 (44:18):
Well, I actually haven't spoken to Tom in a while
because he's actually doing his job. What I'm seeing is
the result of the fruits of his labor. For instance,
I was just in Denver recently, and this is coming
directly from somebody I know very very well in Denver,
and they told me because they commute into the city
a lot, and they said, and you cannot believe the

(44:39):
difference in Denver, Colorado since Tom Holman and Donald Trump
stepped back into the administration. He goes all the gangs,
all the crime, he goes. It's like it went disappeared overnight.
So and Denver was really hard hit if you remember
by what was going on with.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Trendy Treanda ragwof over buildings there. But the mayor was
denying it all.

Speaker 7 (45:01):
With the mayor, point your eyes, don't to Steve you
we saw the videos. I mean, so you know, again
the mayor, the mayor should have been locked up for
what for his participations. But that being said, you know,
the improvements that we're seeing at the micro level are
significant because the people are seeing it. They're getting their
cities back. They said, yeah, it's safe to walk around Denver.
Now I don't feel like I'm going to get mug shots,

(45:23):
raped or you know killed. So this is you know,
this is happening in real time. But also that the
other piece that's really important is that we have to
understand that what Biden did the last four years was
so devastating in it, you know, dovetails and what Marine
was talking about with the corrup judiciary by revoking title
for you two and by giving people the ability to
claim asylum. The proper exit strategy when you claim the

(45:47):
asylum is you have to have your case adjudicated in
front of a judge. The part of the trouble that
we're facing right now is a backlog of people that
need to exit. But because there's not enough adjudication judges
and not enough judges who adjudicated situation, we're having a
difficult situation of exiting so many people who are non violent.
The violent people, it's not even a question they're committing crimes.

(46:08):
They committed a crime when they came over the border.
They should have been arrested for coming over the border.
Joe Biden should be arrested for allowing this to happen.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
I totally agree. And he won't even know that he's
been arrested. I have one very quick last question for you,
and that is what does Donald Trump want of Canada,
the best neighbor in the world. Why is he doing
this to us?

Speaker 7 (46:27):
Oh? You know, I think what he's trying to do
is I think he's trying to liberate Canada. I think
he's trying to help you guys see that you're living under.
I really really believe that. I don't think he's trying
to harm Canada. I mean, look, let's face it, you
went from the frying Panada fire from Trudeau to Carney.
I'm not saying I don't think it got much better. No,
for you guys, You guys are wonderful neighbors. And you know,

(46:49):
if you truly are, if you're a Christian or you
believe in God, do you believe that God created man
to be free.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
He gave us.

Speaker 7 (46:55):
Cominion over the earth. Why on earth do we have
tyranny ruling?

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I'm unorthodox Jew, and I love it. I love Donald
Trump for many reasons, but one of the main reasons
is his position on Israel is so clear, it's amazing.
I love him for that. But I'm really not happy
with what he's doing to Canada. I think he's going
to economically strangle us or I believe in the last second.
I believe tomorrow night is when it comes into effect
the twenty five percent tariff. I believe he's going to
change his mind. I believe he's going to change his mind.

(47:20):
I really do. And vander Steele, Marine.

Speaker 7 (47:23):
Steele, I pray he does. I pray he does.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to have you
on the Jack Burg of His show. I hope I
can count on you to come on again. You guys
are amazing. Thank you, God bless all right. I'm Jack Berkovitz,
and we will be back with an incredible second half
hour right after this.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
No Radio, No Problem stream is live on Sagay ninety
sixty am dot C.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
A Fame.

Speaker 9 (48:07):
Show, Shut Up Show, Shut Shut Shut Shut Off, Shot
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Speaker 10 (48:38):
The traffs will be far more generous than those countries,
more than us, meaning they will be kinder than those
countries were in the United States of America over the
decades they've ripped us off like no country has ever
been ripped off in history. And we're gonna be much

(48:59):
night so than they were to us, but in substantial
money for the country.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Neverbent unbelievable. Donald Trump is the only politician on the
planet that just keeps everybody guessing and wondering and thinking
and suspecting and never really knowing if there is a
true motivation or objective or not. We do know that
he is using tariffs as the ultimate tool. He recognizes

(49:27):
that doing business in America is a privilege and that
he will charge for that privilege. He believes that America
has been abused dramatically over the last thirty years, and
that everybody had access to the American market and that
there was not enough tariffs coming in. So therefore he
was just opening his marketplace to the world to play

(49:48):
in the parks of the United States at no cost. Now,
that's a perspective that not everybody agrees with, meaning that
if a farmer in eyes, Idaho who mines farms potatoes
needs certain equipment, and those items of equipment come from Poland.

(50:10):
Then it's not that America is doing Poland a favor.
It's Poland doing America a favor by selling its equipment
to the farmer in Idaho. And that's always the way.
It's been, basically a mutual two way street. We need
your equipment, you need our marketplace. Let's do business. Donald

(50:31):
Trumps take of the position which has been abandoned by
the world economy over thirty years ago, and that is
that let's globalize everything. Let's look at it from a
perspective of the whole world is one beautiful place, and
let the borders come down. Visa v product, not visa
v people. Joe Biden took that to a different level
and included people as part of this equation, which was

(50:53):
the most ridiculous mistake in the history of politics. But
as far as equipment was concerned, let it all come
in and it's worked. It's worked for America. America has
become and maintains its position as the number one most
powerful country in the world, the most prosperous country in
the world, the country with the most number of trillionaires

(51:15):
and billionaires and whatever. Why Primarily because of the industriousness
of the American people and the open border policy it's worked.
Donald Trump wants to reverse all that and say, you
know what, we have such an incredible economy here that
no country in the world can actually reach any level

(51:35):
of success unless they have access to our economy, and
we need to charge admission. It's no different than an
online platform that says, hey, free access, free access, free access,
and when they get enough eyeballs, enough interest, everybody wants in,
they start charging. So if you're addicted to Facebook, you're

(51:55):
one of trillions of people addicted to Facebook or TikTok
or Instagram. How would you feel if all of a
sudden somebody decided that to have access to TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,
there's got to be a small fee ten dollars a month. Hey,
you're addicted, You're gonna do it, but you're going to

(52:18):
resent it. Is it worth the money to create this border?
I can tell you this. I refuse to pay money
for access to newspapers. I used to get them in
print form at home. They don't do that anymore. There
are hardly any printed newspapers anymore. But you can get
access to any newspaper online. And once you got used

(52:42):
to having a Toronto Star online, which by the way,
does not give me anywhere near the satisfaction of having
a physical newspaper. But once you have access to a
newspaper online, and then they say whoop, paywall, paywall, paywall, paywall,
And now in order to continue to have access to
that newspaper, you've got to pay for that access. I

(53:04):
get it. They need to survive. The only way they
can survive is because they charge you money. But I
don't want to pay it, because there's enough news out there.
If I can't read the article in the Toronto Star,
I'll read it somewhere else because today everybody's got the
same news all the time. So I'll go to axios,
I'll go to blog too, I'll go to global news,

(53:28):
I'll go to any sort of format that does not
yet have a paywall. I don't know what I'll do
when they all have a paywall, and that's going to happen,
because once one of them has it and succeeds, all
of them will have it, because that's the price of
admission everywhere, and that's what Donald Trump is doing visa

(53:48):
VI the American marketplace. He's going to charge a tariff
on everything. In so doing, however, is creating chaos. The
Canadian economy cannot absorb a loss of its car business.
We export sixty three billion dollars a year in autos.

(54:09):
That's huge. Direct employment attributable to the auto industry is
one hundred and twenty five thousand employees. Indirect employment attached
to the auto industry is another five hundred thousand employees.
That's directly or indirectly six hundred and twenty five thousand

(54:33):
people who make their living because of car sales, primarily
to the United States. What can Canada do to try
to mitigate that damage, try to minimize it in some way?
Well is going to have to buy more parts that
come from the United States, such that every single car
will have a component element of fifty percent US. If

(54:55):
fifty percent of the value of the car is components
made in America or coming from America, it is deemed
to be an American made car, even though it's made
in Canada. Now when it gets exported to the United States,
it will draw no tariffs. That's one thing they could do,
but it may not be enough. There'll still be a

(55:17):
lot of cars made primarily with Canadian product. What do
we do then, Well, we'll have to create a tariff
so that all cars coming into Canada are also taxed
or tariff, which is the same thing. So now, if
you want to drive amid Subishi, it better be made
in Canada. If you want to drive a Bmdumble, you
has to be made in Canada. How About an Audi,
a Mercedes, a Maserati, a Rolls Royce. Any of those

(55:41):
cars will either be too expensive or more expensive or
have to be made in Canada. So there will be
a complete realignment of the entire world and who gets
to buy what at what price. This is a major
step backwards, a major, major step backward. However, we will

(56:02):
all survive. Now, what about our exports of oil and
energy and other things, Well, we're going to have to
find the ways to transport that product to other countries.
But those other countries are going to have a lot
of pressure. Why because in order for them to access
the American market, they're going to have to equalize the trade.
That's what Donald Trump wants. You will let you send

(56:23):
a billion into America, but we want you to buy
a billion from America. So now oil from America will
get a preferred treatment compared to oil from Canada. So
Canada may want to sell its oil to Germany, but
Germany will say, well, we can't really buy your oil
because we have to buy American oil because we want

(56:45):
to ship equipment, technology, other products to the United States.
It will be a major realignment onto other things. The
United Kingdom released yesterday a report, the first international independent
report on what happened on October the seventh, And frankly,

(57:08):
I'm shocked because the UK has not been a friend
of Israel's since October the seventh, so I expected that
this report would come out and sort of whitewash the
atrocities of October the seventh. That did not happen. So
let me tell you some of the findings of the
UK investigation of October the seventh, so they might They

(57:31):
mentioned that the oldest person killed was a Holocaust survivor.
He was murdered on October the seventh. He was ninety
one years old. The youngest was a baby killed fourteen
hours after birth, a newborn baby fourteen hours old, a

(57:53):
ninety one year old Holocaust survivor killed on October the seventh.
This is a report that came out from the Parliamentary
Commission of the UK and it is the most detailed
Western investigation to date into the Hamas massacre of Israel
on October the seventh. The report has three hundred and
eighteen pages. It was chaired by a British historian and

(58:15):
peer lord, Andrew Roberts, and it documents the deaths of
eleven hundred and eighty two people in a forty eight
hour killing spree, and it provides extensive evidence of atrocities
committed against civilians. The report describes the assault as a

(58:36):
meticulously planned operation designed not only to kill, but to
terrorize through extreme brutality, extreme looting and extreme humiliation. The
report includes testimonies of group rapes of women and girls,

(58:58):
some of them were murdered, as well as evidence of
sexual violence committed against corpses. Let me repeat that it
evidences sexual violence committed against corpses. It details the targeting

(59:19):
of children, including infants shot in strollers or burnt alive.
I can't get over the fact that after all of that,
this is all documented and one of the primary sources
of the documentation were videos that came from the cameras
atop the helmets of the attackers. The greatest body of

(59:45):
evidence that documents the atrocities of October the seventh came
from them. Today they want to deny it. And the
question begs over and over again. I have asked this
question since October the seventh. Why would they do this?
Did they not understand that Israel would fight back with everything,

(01:00:08):
or did they believe, as turned out to be the case,
that they could manipulate world opinion and turn it against Israel.
That happened. That happened, but now everybody sees it for
what it is. It was all part of a plan.
I'll tell you a little bit more about that plan
when we come back right after.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
This stream us live at SAGA nine am dot C.

Speaker 11 (01:00:57):
Well, this is an very important public conversation, and because
we haven't really had it before, about the fact that
if you have a visa or a green card, neither
one of those things are birthrights. You are not entitled
to them as you come into this country. Every sovereign
nation has a right to decide who gets into their
nation and who is allowed to stay. If you are

(01:01:20):
a foreign student, you're coming in on a work visa,
or even if you need a visa, even to be
a tourist. But if you lie to the consulate offices
to get that visa, if you were to say, as
an example, that you're going to come into this country
to demonstrate on behalf of Hamas, or to espouse you hatred,

(01:01:42):
to shut down educational buildings, to commit crimes, we never.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Would issue you that visa.

Speaker 11 (01:01:49):
And if you end up doing that when you're here,
we will take action to keep America safe and strong
and to make sure American families and students and universities
are not held captive by that kind of activity. So
Americans haven't really maybe thought about we haven't had to
talk about it like this, But the fact is, avisa
is a privilege being in this country. If you have

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a Green card, which stems from essentially a visa, that
too is not something anyone is entitled to. These are privileges,
and we will make sure that if you're in this country,
and hopefully you're here because you know, this is the
greatest country on earth, we want to keep it that way,
and we are looking out for the American citizen, for
the American families and for this country so that we

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can remain a country that people want to come to.
And this is the way we're going to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
In parts.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
We are back. And that is so logical, that is
so clear. How is it possible that the Democrats have
judges in place appointed by Barack Obama and other Democrats
who are looking to these are not people that are elected.
These are people that are appointed so they don't have

(01:03:02):
to fear the backlash from voters. So these judges basically
feel they're all powerful and they're going to find a
way to block the deportation of serious criminals. And if
we're not talking to serious criminals, which is really egregious
in that they they want to keep them in the country,
we're talking about the unsettling state of the university population.

(01:03:27):
Most of the major universities in America most I mean
that's a lot of universities. They're all not only they
have the right to raise money from their alumni, and
they're all filled to their coffees are filled with billions
upon billions of dollars. I think Columbia has between fifteen
and eighteen billion dollars in endowments. That's money in the

(01:03:50):
bank from alumni, on top of which they get over
a billion dollars a year from the federal government, on
top of which they get all these incredibly high tuition
fees from people, and that money goes towards putting up
in housing that belongs to the university. People like Mahmud Khalil,

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who arrived in America in twenty twenty two as a
twenty eight year old man. He's thirty years old today.
He's a he got his got he hasn't yet gotten
his diploma, but he's a graduate, a PhD. Graduate in
political science and political administration, and has led for the
last two years all the demonstrations in Colombia that endangered

(01:04:37):
and place fears into the lives of all Jewish students.
It wasn't about Israel, it was about Jews. And he
brought this incredible amount of disarray an acrimony to the
population of Columbia University, all while he was masked, he
was a spokesman. He married an American woman, also a Muslim,

(01:04:59):
with ajack the whole thing. She's a dentist. He is
now somewhere in detention in Louisiana. And when the American
government said we're deporting him because yes, he has a
green card, which he got after he got married. Yes
he has a green card, but that doesn't take away
the government's power to deport him. And we're going to
deport him, and I say kudos to that. Why would

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anybody allow into the country someone who clearly openly brings
with him hatred of the system, Which leads to the
question that I'm really asking, and that is I've been
asking this since October the seventh. Why would Hamas launch
an attack of such magnitude and horrific consequences? Why would

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they do that knowing that they cannot win militarily and
by all expectations, should have resulted in condemnation by the
entire world. Why start a war that will make you
hate it and will make you defeated. The question needs
to be asked, and I've never found a good answer. Well,

(01:06:07):
I did read a report that came out a few
days ago, and that report stated that it was a
hail Mary by Hamas. Their indicators showed that they're finished,
They have no way to achieve their goals. The support
of the other Arab countries was getting minimal. They felt

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that if they didn't do something very drastic, very soon,
there would be no Hamas government left. So they believed,
and they were given reason to believe by Iran, by Katar,
by all the powers in the Middle East, that they
would be supported in this war and in the public
relations events that happened after the war, And in fact
they were told more than that they had started a

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campaign twenty five years earlier to win the hearts of
Americans and the useful idiots of America that were so
infiltrated by HIM supporters that they felt that if an
event even as big and as gruesome and as horrific
as what happened on October the seventh, the world there

(01:07:09):
was enough embedded plants that could turn the tide. And
they were right. They were right. America was primed and
ready for this incredible attack on the Jews and the
Western world. They were right. Who could have assumed except
people with insider knowledge, that an attack of that magnitude

(01:07:31):
by terrorists who are designated as terrorists would cause Israel
to be hated, would cause the victims to be not believed,
even though the videos that proved the attacks and what
they did was provided by the terrorists, They felt that
they had enough control over the minds of young American

(01:07:53):
students that they would win them over without flinching. And
they were right. They were right. So the Hail Mary
was the attack they felt they were going to lose out.
Now here's the problem that no one knew about. Just yesterday.
Literally the hottest news of the president is blockbuster. This
is blog. Three months before October the seventh, the Israeli

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government convened a meeting. It was top secret, and that
meeting was to deal with the issue of recognizing Hamas
as the legitimate government of Gaza and giving Gaza its
own separate sovereignty as a state. Listen to what I

(01:08:37):
just said. Listen to what I just said. Three months
before October the seventh, the Israeli Cabinet and government voted
to recognize Hamas and to declare Gaza a sovereign state.
I'm going to repeat this because there hasn't been more

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significant news out of Israel since October the seventh. Three
months before October the seventh, the Israeli government had declared
internally that they were going to enact something never believed possible.

(01:09:19):
The Nitta Yahoo right wing coalition government that is world
renowned for hating Hamas, hating Gaza, hating Palestinians, wanting to
destroy the entire Palestinian cause, did not want a two
state solution, all humbug, all fraud. They voted three months

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before October the seventh. You heard it here first to
give Gaza sovereign status. And there's more. The government of Gaza, Hamas,
a sworn enemy of Israel, a terrorist organization, was going
to be recognized by its chief hater, its chief opponent.

(01:10:08):
It would be victim. They were going to recognize Hamas
as the leaders of the sovereign state of Gaza. And
here Hamas had no knowledge of that. It never got
conveyed to them. It wasn't ready for revelation. And Hamas,

(01:10:29):
thinking they were on their last breath, thinking they were
about to be eradicated, that their their their their their plan,
their appeal, their their objectives were never going to be
met unless they did something drastic. They chose to attack,
effectively committing suicide when they were about to be reborn.

(01:10:54):
And they were led to believe that they would get
the full support of Irans in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, the
Uties possibly Egypt. They were led to believe that Israel
would be attacked from all sides, and nobody actually came

(01:11:17):
in to battle for them. Nobody came to their aid.
This was the most major miscalculation of an enemy of
Israel or of any country in a conflict. Ever, had
they waited another few weeks, they would have been informed

(01:11:38):
that they were about to be elevated to real government status.
Now I don't believe for one second that they would
have bought into that. If you dedicated to destroy your neighbor, Israel,
then give me status all you want. I'm committed to
destroying Israel. The Palestinians have a tremendous history of turning
down opportunities that gave them everything they wanted and some.

(01:12:01):
In any case, in the United States, the tide is
beginning to turn. It's the Trump effect, I believe. But
Harvard is terminating professors in the Middle East department that
have had for too long a say on anti Semitism.
At the campus level, Columbia's president, the interim president, has
just resigned. It's turning. It's absolutely turning. But another effect,

(01:12:29):
direct or indirect from October the seventh and even before,
based on a new poll that just came out, is
that more and more Jews in America are choosing to
be not Jewish. The numbers are alarming. Why why are
Jews to a great number, maybe not a huge percent,
but a great number are turning away from Judaism? Is

(01:12:51):
it because they don't want to be identified as Jews?
Is it the intimidation factor? I don't know. We're going
to study that question at great length and the weeks
to come. There's so much here. I'm going to take
a break. When I come back, I'm going to have
somebody that each and every one of us can truly admire.

(01:13:13):
His name is doctor Layton Gray. He's not your typical
You're going to love him. I'll be back with doctor
Layton Gray when we come back right after.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
This No Radio, No Problem stream is live on SAGA
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Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Oh, we're back and I am honored, and I am
I am. I'm so thrilled and pleased to have with
me as a guest all the way from Saskatchewan. Layton Gray,

(01:14:05):
Welcome to the Jack berkerchill Leyton. How are you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
I'm great. It's privileged to be in the program.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Thank you very much. So I was going to take
a few minutes to read your resume to the audience,
but that would take an hour because what you've accomplished,
and you're a young man, what you've accomplished is not
the norm. It's so far from the norm. So let
me just give the audience a little bit of a
taste as to who Layton Gray Gray is. First of all,

(01:14:34):
you're an Aboriginal Indian. You've got a status as an Indian.
Your great grandfather was a chief, your great grandmother was
a chief. You're a treaty Indian. He spent over two
decades helping indigenous youth transition out of urban gangs. You're
the founder of the Spirit Keeper Youth Society. You excelled

(01:14:55):
in sports. You're a triple A player in hockey. You
won all kinds of awards in sports. You weren't just
an athlete, you were a spectacular athlete. You won with distinction.
You got your BA with distinction in dual majors in
English literature and history. You got an award in ethics,

(01:15:17):
prize in ethics in nineteen eighty eight, and you sived
the Louise McKinney Scholarship for that. And you had a
GPA score in the top two percent of the province.
I could go on and on and on. You became
a lawyer at the University of Alberta. You graduated in
nineteen ninety two. You've got a business administration degree. You've

(01:15:37):
got a PhD. You're actually a doctor in the twenty
twenty during the twenty twenty pandemic. You started your legal
career with the Federal Department of Justice. You compete heeded
your clerkship in nineteen ninety three before taking a hiatus
to play minor hockey with the Daytona Beach Sun Devils.

(01:15:58):
You've done it all, Clayton. I gotta tell you. I
could go on and on and on. Right now, you
head up your own very significant law firm. I don't
even know where to start with you. And the reason
that I admire what you've done is because you've done
what I could not do. I tried all of those things.

(01:16:19):
I wanted to be a professional soccer player. I wanted
to be a lawyer. I wanted to be a judge.
I wanted to be a writer. Here I am a
lowly talk show host, but I get to interview incredible
stories such as yours. So welcome to the show, and
thank you for giving us your time. We have an
election in Canada right now. We're in the throes of

(01:16:39):
a very short election period to April twenty eighth, to
be exact. We've got Pierre Poitiev, who was the emissary
of change, with a thirty point lead. We have Mark Karney,
who's never been elected to office, but all of a
sudden there's the savior of the Liberal Party and looks
like he's headed for victory. As it stands right now,

(01:17:01):
I have a lot of questions, but I'd rather you
take me through what I should be focused on in
this election, including the Donald Trump effect. Take me through it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
Well. First of all, I think that people should understand
the importance of this election for Canada. And one of
the most alarming things for me is that there seems
to be a general malaise an apathy in the Canadian electorates.
I don't see a lot of election signs where I live.

(01:17:34):
I don't see I don't hear people talking about the election.
And Patrick v. David is a very well known podcast
the United States. You probably know I am, he said
Donald Trump on the show. Yeah, he actually posted something
on his dext s base this morning that I think
was just brilliant, and he said, you know, Pierre Paulivier
is our best bet going forward, but he's not working

(01:17:57):
hard enough. He sounds overly comp and lackadaisical, almost smarting
in his approach. And he said, you know, Donald Trump
is a seventy seven year old man, but he worked
his butt off to get people out to vote. And
people should understand how close that election was in the
United States. But forty nine percent of people voted in

(01:18:18):
favor of Donald Trump. At about forty eight percent voters
in favor of Tamalalaharis and globalism, which is what Mark
Carney represents coming back to Canada, and we should be
it's anything mats the Americans and Matt Donald Trump. We
should be grateful because if it were not for Trump
and NAGA, we wouldn't have gotten rid of Justin Shure,
which is a net good to the country, and we

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wouldn't have an election. Right now, we have an opportunity
to actually make change in our country. Now. Don't get
me wrong. The Conservative Party of Canada is not our
sisor it's not a pssiah, but their ideas and their
policies are much better, much crefitable to what it looks
like we're going to have with Mark Karney only yesterday

(01:19:00):
was actually saying that he is going to limit the
types of products that are available to Canadians based upon
net zero criteria. You know, think about that. That's where
we're going. We're going into into the next phase of globalism,
which has been the scourge of Cadet. It's been the
sort of infiltration of this globalist ideology to Canada is

(01:19:26):
made Candate not even close to the place that it
used to be, the place where I grew up, and
it's becoming the kind of place where you know, you
talk about my resume, all of that I owe to Canada.
If I did not live in a country that gave
me the opportunity to make something up myself, what would

(01:19:47):
I be today? I would be the person that you're
describing on your show. And every single Canadian, especially our
young people, deserves the same opportunity and they're not going
to get it. At Mark Carneal de Liberate again, Well,
I I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Echo everything you say. By the way, I did not
say that you've been elected the top fifty lawyers in Canada,
and that's by the Canadian Lawyer Society. You're a criminal
trial lawyer, which is something I always wanted to be.
You are me you you you are you did what
I think? You know? You are me. You're here.

Speaker 5 (01:20:23):
Here's theer. Now I'm a podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Yes, you have your host of the Gray Matter podcast,
The Gray Matter, that's g R. E. Y. So I
think it's a worthwhile listen to everybody out there who's
listening to this show. You should tune into the Grey
g R. E Y, the Gray Matter Podcast. You're extremely
articulate and eloquent. It's a pleasure to have you on
now as a lawyer, as a man, a man who

(01:20:48):
knows politics. Do you believe that Pierre Paulief could lose
to a to the opposition when the opposition is effectively
totally borrowing his platform? At first they said he had
no platform, then they said this platform was all wrong,
then they actually duplicated and copied every single element of

(01:21:09):
his platform. Are Canadians that stupid?

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
Unfortunately we have proven to be in the past. I
mean we elected Justin Trudeau three times in six years.
When I say we actually central Ontario no offense, but
you know, you put your finger rarely on the problem.
And again I think I think for for the for

(01:21:37):
the Conservative Party, they've got a couple of problems. One
is they're running the same type of campaign that they
did in the twenty nineteen and twenty twenty elections twenty
twenty one elections. Sorry, and that is that they're saying
vote for us because we're not the Liberals. Well, that
didn't work the last couple of times. And what they're

(01:21:58):
not doing is they're not focusing enough they my respective view,
on the Trudeau regime. This is something that Donald Trump
did very successfully during the US election campaign last summer,
is that he called out the Bide administration on their record.
He focused on their policies, and there was a great
temptation not to do that. It was usually to be

(01:22:19):
distracted by, you know, the stupidity of Kamala Harris and
some of the celebrities and people like Oprah Winfrey campaign for.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
Her for money, that money.

Speaker 5 (01:22:29):
And I think, yes, I think, what what mister Paulivier,
what I'd like to see him do? I might hear
him talk more about the Trudeau record, because that's what
the trick that that the tiny people are trying to
play on Canadians. Is no one's talking about Justin Trudeau.
No one's talking about the decade of destruction that he

(01:22:49):
reaked and his and his government seaked on us, and
that Mark carry was very much a part of that.
Is something altodels very successful the last summer. But PAMO
has sold the COVID tame such thing. Oh yes, well,
you know I wasn't proud of all of that buying business. Well,
Mark Party has been right there from the very beginning.
A lot of it you get on the policies that
have hurt our country and its citizens come from the

(01:23:13):
mind of Mark Carney. I would like to see mystery
pology and focus more on the Trudeau record. That's one
thing he should do. Definitely. I think he's passing up
tremendous opportunity. Every single major podcaster in the United States
that I know has invited him to come on the program,
from Joe Rogan to Ben Shapiro to Patches that David

(01:23:34):
on and on and on. He's got a tremendous opportunity
there to reach a wide audience of pleading to watch
those programs. Mister Carney didn't have that opportunity. That could
be a game changer. It certainly was for Donald Trump,
and I think that he has an important message to
Kadi that unfortunately it's not really getting out. And I
think that what Canadians are really craving right now is

(01:23:57):
a positive vision going forward for our country. That's breaks
and fiscal policy, that's all finally good, but you know,
it doesn't really move the needle what Canadians really want
to be if they want to hear about how great
Canada is, how great Canada is going to be, and
how mister Calder is going to achieve that for us
going forward. I think if he does those things, I

(01:24:19):
think that he holds the keys in his hands to
win the next election. But if he falls in the
same trapped as previous leaders of this party house over
the last two elections, I'm afraid we're going to be
stuck with another four years of the Liberals.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
I think you're one hundred percent right on. I do believe, however,
that the Liberals and Mark Karney have found a way
to make it look like this is a new Liberal
party with new people unaffiliated to Justin Trudeau, and that
seems to be sticking with people. I've got to go
to a break when I come back, I want to
ask you about the Donald Trump effect, who gets identified
as a Donald Trump in Canada and how that affects

(01:24:53):
this election. I'm Jack Bergobits with the Spectaque Spectacular Late
and Gray. We'll be back right after.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
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Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Back and my guest is Layton Gray, pH d, Doctor
Layton Gray. He is a very very talented criminal lawyer,
and I mean criminal as in the criminal arena lawyer,
although many lawyers would sort of be described as criminal
as well. Why do I sense, Crayton, that you are

(01:25:49):
one day going to be our prime minister.

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
I don't think I could have it in the political world.
I think I get my elbows up always to my
old hockey say would come out, I'm sure, and I
think my place is more as a as a as
a commentator and an advocate for people. I wouldn't rule
out a political career, but you know right now, you know,

(01:26:17):
being a conservative, especially a Christian one in Canada is
a very lonely place to be and I'm praying that
that I'm literally praying that that's going to change.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Well, I'm an Orthodox Jew and when Netanyahu was Prime
minister the first time around, and then he was defeated
and he was out of office for a couple of years.
I met with him, and I a hundred, one hundred American,
one hundred Canadian Jewish business leaders were invited to speak

(01:26:49):
with him in New York while he was creating a
comeback and I'm the only one that showed up because
he was considered finished. And I spent an entire day
with him, and I reminded him then. I assured him
then that I had so much faith in him that
he would be prime minister again. And of course he's
been Israel's longest serving prime minister. And to this day
he remembers, Yeah, he's a remarkament. To this day, he

(01:27:13):
remembers me as the one who gave him the the
strength to believe that he would win. So I'm going
to do the same with Great Layton. Great, please remember
me when you are prime minister. Okay, you promise, you
promised to remember.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
I think I have a direct Absolutely, I have great
affection for the Jewish people, all those liberals and the
cancel culture experience that five years ago they labeled me
as something called a late anti semi I don't know
how that could possibly be true and minor. Last time
I checked was a Jews are great affection for the

(01:27:49):
Jewish people, and also great concerns about the rise of
atichemicism in our country. That's another topic that Oh I.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Spent a tremendous amount of time I'm on that topic.
It's very, very scary, and many Canadian Jews are looking
to leave to go to Israel because be it a
place of war, it doesn't matter. It's the safest place
for the Jews today because if the end anyone hates
us in Israel, it's one of us. So we can
live with that, all right. So we're talking about the
Trump effect. Now. Trump is despised in Canada, even though

(01:28:22):
many of us are conservatives that love what he's done
with the border and with the universities and demonstrations and
his position on Israel. It's something we all love. Nevertheless,
it's his personality that turns a lot of people off.
And now he's declared war on the world. And there
are no two neighbors in the world that are better

(01:28:42):
suited for each other and better in getting along than
Canada and the United States. So when Donald Trump says
I don't like Governor Trudeau and I want Canada as
a fifty first state because it's such a beautiful big picture,
and he supports. Now it seems he's back to the
Liberals and Varney. Is that good for Karney or is
that bad for Karney?

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Well, this is a great question. I think it probably
will hurt its strategy because of course, well I was
talking earlier about how the Liberals wants to forget all
about Trudeau, and the way that they're doing that is
they're pinging off this anti Trump sentiment, this anti American
sentiment that really goes all the way back to the

(01:29:27):
foundation of Canada, when in seventeen seventy sixt eighty thousand
United Empire oil it's flooded into Canada and our first
mass immigration at the time, they're only about eight thousand
people in all of Ontario. And so those that is
the isting of it is Ontarius is founded and doubled
by Americans, former members of Jitchu Polonies, and most of

(01:29:52):
our prime ministers have come from that group, which we
now call the Laurentian Elite. But to answer your question,
I think when we're talking about Canada and the bigger
pictures and just may upset some people listening our little
Canadian election, it doesn't say too much in the day
global picture. Donald felt is part of the good that

(01:30:15):
it is much more important let's stay or at least
more powerful in the broader conversation. And we're talking about
countries like the United States for Russia and China, and
both Russia and trying to have plans for Canada. China
has been very much involved in the infiltration of Canada
and our institutions. I'm sure your listeners know about all

(01:30:37):
the Chinese elections in are parents. But the Russians had
nuclear powered icebreakers up in the Canadian Arctic. They have
a Medici nuclear powered scholarship up there, and as a
couple of wolken down diesel icebreakers and unfinished at the
station up there. That the problem will never be finished.
And so I think when you talk about the Americans

(01:30:58):
and it's seven interesting Canada. Uh really, when when you
drill down, I think it's military. What dulphup is most
interestingly in securing the entire continent and really US pasurement
on this continent and kind of playing a vital role
in that. You know, Alberta has more oil and gas

(01:31:18):
stocks than in all of the United States put together.
This is a point not lost on on Donald Trump.
Betrolis bluster. He knows that that America is dependent upon
TATA for things like energy and other raw materials. And
he's an opportunity, uh to win a cold war with
China in the same way that rollwag and one day

(01:31:41):
the cool world with the City Union. In terms of legency,
remember we're dealing with the one term president here. He's
going to be done. He can't run again.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
I think he announced he announced yesterday. He announced yesterday
that he that he hasn't said a certain with certainty,
but he will be looking to change the constitution so
that he can run again.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
Wow, well maybe he will. You know. I think their
president rating is probably eight events and he's probably Jamie
van is probably more qualified than Donald Trump will be
at eighty one or eighty two. So my point is this,
I think that what we're dealing with with Donald Trump
is he sees Canada as an important piece and a

(01:32:22):
broader global you know, globalistiction. He sees what's going on here.
I predicted over a year ago that the United States
would take a more severe interest in the domestic politicis
that Donald Trump came to palace because he knows that
what we've become to and I think kind of the future,
our best future is to is to be more aligned

(01:32:43):
with the Americans, both in terms of trade and military,
much as we were back in the nineteen days when
you know Brian Marooney was our Prime minister and he
had a close relationship with a lot of Reagan. I
think that is Canada's best future going forward. This idea
of us seeing the end of the United States, I
think is untenable. I think Mark Carney knows it, and
I wouldn't be surprised him for this. Marny wains the election.

(01:33:06):
After the election and it's sept the book comes there,
it may that he's completely fools and he becomes very
much in kind of much more in line with Donald Trump.
Magi again, well.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
I can tell you this, Laydon. I have a sizable
business that depends a lot on importing merchandise from the
United States, and I traveled to the United States on
a very regular basis, and I love Americans, and I
love my business dealings in America, and I would have
loved an open border and no customs, no duties, no reporting,

(01:33:45):
just the ability to go back and forth as if
I was going from province to province. And now I'm
looking to move my business away from the United States
and to give up any residents or any stays in
America and limit my exposure to the United States because
of Donald Trump's policy, specifically as related to tariffs. So

(01:34:07):
had he presented to us the notion that we could
have a European type of economic union, that would have
been incredible. I would have been the first to vote
in favor of that. But the way he's approached it,
I think has been counterproductive to his own interests, and
that is we now hate America, and Canadians have an
incredibly overriding distaste for America because of Donald Trump. If

(01:34:32):
he wanted to conquer or annex Canada, he didn't do
it in a very smart way.

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
Would you say, well, I certainly appreciate what you're seeing.
I think this is very true, especially of Central Canada.
I can tell you it's a sentiment in Alberta. It's
quite different because in Alberta you see the liberal as

(01:34:57):
a more dangerous threat than Donald Trump. And in fact,
I've been approached by contigitive people here at Alberta. You've
probably heard about them who were applying to go down
and meet with Donald Trump about the possibility of Alberta
becoming part of the United States. And so I certainly

(01:35:19):
agree with you that tariffs are not the answer. That's
I think him the imposing serious tariffs on Canada was
a miscalculation and he's got to find a way to
sort of disentangle himself from that. However, I don't I
don't think that his long term goal is I think
you're correct, though. I don't think his long term goal

(01:35:39):
is just to gain a trade advantage in relationship to Canada.
And in fact, I don't know if you if you
saw the Jim Ball see the interview on the Jordan
Peterson podcast, But you know Jim Ball ceely is the
inventor of rim technology, basically every smartphone. It's very brilliant
Canadian entrepreneurs.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
BlackBerry and he says, quote yes.

Speaker 5 (01:36:00):
Black Day and and he says quite accurately that America
actually right now without has a terrific trade relationship with Canada.
They're getting a deal with Canada's getting ripped off because
because America such a great train deal with Canada, and
so you're quite right with Donald have talked about you

(01:36:20):
know how I sat in Canada. That's that's a lot
of rubbish, and I think Canadians realize that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
We've run out of time. I guess has been Layton Gray,
a superstar lawyer, future prime minister. I predict I have
I'm going to make this statement. He's going to find
a way out of his commitment to tax US or
tarif US as of midnight tomorrow night. I think he
made a mistake. I think he tried to bully us.
I think he knows it. I think he's not going
to go through with it. It's a it's a it's

(01:36:48):
a long shot. Do you think I'm right? Yes or no?

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
I certainly hope you're right. I certainly hope you are.
I won't I won't doubt you after your prediction with mishear.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Again late and I'd like to ask you to come
back at another time. Is it okay if we invite
you back. You've been amazing. Yes, thank you, God, bless you,
thank you very much. I'm Jack Berkovitz, thank you, my
producer Nanny Panu, And we'll be back tomorrow. I have
a great day and remember I love you all.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
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