October 20, 2025 • 52 mins
When life hits pause, purpose keeps playing.
In this special Best Of edition of The Jay Walker Show, we revisit one of our most powerful conversations — with gospel legend Dorinda Clark Cole. Dorinda opens up about endurance, grace under pressure, and the sound of faith that refuses to quit. Even during a day when tech outages shook up production across the world, this message of resilience, worship, and divine timing reminds us that God’s plan never goes offline.
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In this special Best Of edition of The Jay Walker Show, we revisit one of our most powerful conversations — with gospel legend Dorinda Clark Cole. Dorinda opens up about endurance, grace under pressure, and the sound of faith that refuses to quit. Even during a day when tech outages shook up production across the world, this message of resilience, worship, and divine timing reminds us that God’s plan never goes offline.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Get on up and get down. Let's get this party started, y'all. Baby,
I'm trying to see what you got.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Come on God.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
To the Jaywalker Show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
She is a member of the First Ladies for Gospel
Ladies and Gentlemen. Doctor Drenda. How you doing, doctor Cole.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I am doing well. Thank you so much for having me.
It is always a blessing and joy to be able
to be in tune with people that keep our music
hot and keep us in to know with what's going on.
So I really really appreciate this time with you.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I really thank you for taking time by your very
busy schedule from the Grace House to touring, to being
the elected Lady at the and with the conject So coaching.
I really appreciate you for taking time by your business
schedule to come and talk little.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It really means a lot. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Absolutely, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So let's talk about this new record. Determined what inspired
this new record?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, of course, you know, I was really at a
hiatus for the last seven years, seven years, and you
believe in seven years since I had record out, and
I believe somebody had a hexon hole just getting it.
But it was just seven years, and I was really
kind of at a place of God just redefining me
(01:32):
and preparing me for the next season of my life.
And sometimes God does that to us as people that
are artists, ministers and what have us, and we I
didn't realize that God was really doing what he was doing.
But in the midst of that, I felt like God
(01:55):
was just rekindling the fire that he had within me
because I did always want to stay, you know, in
my writing ability and you know, make my I guess
I want to save my singing career. You know, I
always wanted God to do something new and fresh. I
didn't want to come out with the same thing. So
(02:17):
this record, being in the camp for seven years, you know,
it's just a lot of things going on. It seems
like if I tried to get out, here comes something else.
And it was just always something. So I just told God,
I said, Lord, I said this time, I mean it.
I'm more determined than ever to go through. In spite
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of I was not gonna let the enemy put me
in that bag again and send me to the river.
We're not going to do that. And so God told me,
he says, well, if this is what you want to say,
I'm gonna make it happen. And that's how we were
able to really kind of get this record you know,
on its feet, and allowed, you know, to bring good
(02:58):
music that people have I've been warning from Miss Dernda
and it has just been a blessing. I love the music,
I love what it's bringing. And I just believe that,
you know, with you all, and we don't like to
say fans, but our supporters, those that support us now
through the years and just been you know with me,
(03:21):
I just believe that it's it's gonna bless a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So each each track on this album has a powerful message.
Can you walk me through the meaning of great and mighty?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Great and mighty? Of course, when we think of where
God has us and all the things that we've experienced,
we know that every situation brings us into a testimony.
So great and mighty was even through the situation with
me with this record, I knew that God brought me
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through this. Of course, He's always great and he's always
gonna be mighty, but he it never ceased to amaze
me what God is going to do next and so almighty.
Knowing that He is everything that we need him to
be and everything that he says he is, we trust
him to be that great and mighty.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So you built the brand beyond music with the with
the cometic, with the cosmetics line and the clothing line.
What is bod you to step into the beauty and
fashion industries?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, the fashion industry was my my first love. It
was something that I wanted to do. And then of
course we had a lot of people that were reaching
out to me when I had my solo project, the
first self self titled project of course, Derinda, and of
course that's where it all really kind of started. And
(04:45):
then people were reaching out to me saying, what do
you think about this? What do you think about the
clothing line? What do you think about this? And so
I first my first thing of stepping out was basically
DNA Vinci Danovici was my first love and I started
there and then I began to branch out into other
(05:08):
clothiers and now at Divine Appair, which I have my
own line. I had my own line when I started
at Danovinci, but my line now is at Divine Apparel,
which is the Clark Cole a Rose collection. Yes, so
from that I was really excited because that brought me
(05:30):
into the marketplace. And so when you're in the marketplace,
you know, people constantly are looking at Oh, that's her,
that's her, that's her, that she does this and she
wears this and she know. So it was so much
easier to get me into cosmetics because you know, of course,
we had a young lady that really kind of really
(05:50):
worked with me. We partnered together to have the Duran,
the Duran beauty line, and of course, you know I
love to make myself up, as you said I have,
as you've seen my plush all well, because as a
kid growing up, me and my sister Karen has always
(06:12):
been like fashion. Fashion. You know, even when we were
starting out in our Clark sister's career, we always was
playing Dows and Barbie Dows back in the day, you know,
totally different from the day now, the Barbie Dows talking now,
but we did all of that. We dressed up Dows.
(06:34):
You know, it's always fashion. And then my mom she
was she was a fashionist too. My mom would come out,
she would be dressed, she would be dressed to kill,
and so we kind of got it from her, and
then from that going into this marketplace of the durand Beauty,
which is doing very very well. Of course, I love
(06:54):
to always make a woman feel good about the beauty
inside of her, so that's what we came about with
during Beauty.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm gonna just say this because you spoke about the
first a self titled project. Lately, I've been going through
some stuff health wise and you know, all over the place,
and it was just a point I'm slim over it
and one song two songs that were three songs actually
that I've I've grown to love that's on my playlist
every day, no matter what anybody who's around me can
tell you, I listened to these they get tired to
(07:25):
be talking about you and sisters.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I listened to I'm Still Here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And one that I recently found that fell in love
with all over again is you Can't Hear of God?
Oh wow, Yes, I just fell in love with that
one all over again. And I'm looking, I'm expecting, I'm
looking for a miracle with you and Clark sisters, and
those songs have been such just such a staple in
my life and especially I'm Still Here? What what what
(07:51):
inspired I'm Still Here?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, of course I was going through something a situation
that you know, everybody has a situation that they've gone
through that always brings about a song, as I'm talking
about about artists now, yes, so that that song really
came from the depths of my heart and what I
(08:15):
was dealing with my my It was just a very
very depressing time in my life. And you know, we
get down to there are times when we really get depressed.
There are times when we get really down. You know,
you're sad and you're trying to figure out how to
go get through it. And God was right there for me.
(08:37):
But I was on my way to the river, getting
ready to commit suicide because I had dealt with a
situation that I just didn't never see myself coming out.
I mean, the only way I could see myself coming
out is that God had to have come through for me.
And so, as a lot of people have heard, I
was driving my car down to belt Out Bridge, which
(08:58):
is it's a it's a ridge that crosses you over
to a park, and so I was driving down this
is right after I had dealt with the situation, and
I was like, Lord, I don't know, if you can't
help me, then I just can't now be helped, and
I was at that point of just ended my life.
And then God told me, said to renda everything that
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I put inside of you, all of your rear and
bringing up in the church, your mom, your dad, all
of them that put all of that into you. You
can't let that go down to drain. And so then
I begin to hear God's voice. And when I heard
his voice, that made me really kind of stop in
(09:41):
the position that I was in getting ready to drive
my car off the breeze. So that's how that song
came about. I'm Still Here. I love that song, Thank God.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I love that you don't understand. Seriously that song. I
listened to that song two three times a day off
the red can't I'm still here? You can't hearry God?
I just love wait No, God seems so impoper like,
so uncomfortable. I just I love that song.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You don't understand, but you know what you would probably
love Nobody did this but God.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Then really, let's go check that one out.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You have always try to have songs that will encourage,
that will pierce your heart, and knowing that you can't
do this without God, but nobody. God is another song
that I think you are really like it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Wow, let's talk about your scatting on stage. I love it.
I love it. I love it. You can take a song, hey,
maybe forget the work like I go on YouTube when
I look at your live shows, I didn't caught the
riffs that you're doing now.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I don't forgot the words of the song.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I sticked myself right out right out of not knowing
the words and all that. What's your favorite song to
perform with the my favorite song? Oh, my goodness, of course,
what is it?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
My song?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What is it? What is my song? My Redeemer? Yeah,
my Redeemer is one of my favorite. Another one is God,
God Loves You? Who is so many Twinkies? She was
hitting me of a writer. She just knew how to
(11:30):
write songs where people are yes. Yeah, you hear a
lot of people saying, you know, I got out of
I went through college, but the only way I can
make it through is that through y'all songs. You know.
So it's a lot of songs. And I just thank
God for my sister Twinkie because she was very, very
inspired back in the day to really write the songs
(11:53):
and that makes us who we are today. Wow, stop for.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That speaking of my redemon lived then redo that.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Song she redid it? Yeah she did?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
She did.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
With U And yes, yes, I thought so wow that
that was that was good. I saw y'all during the pandemic.
I thank y'all did an AVAU released party and y'all
performed with her. Yeah, I'm a true fan. I'm a
truth and I don't miss no beat. I'm a true fan.
All missed no beat dot the code. Nothing you past
(12:30):
my nose, nothing to get passed.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Look, so let's talk about the Grace House Senior Daycare Center,
which is which is an important initiative which is led
by you and Nikki, your daughter Nikki to create this
space for seniors. So what led you to create this
space for seniors.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Well, you know one thing, I do love singiors, you know,
because I'll get old one day too. So but my
daughter really kind of she really gets her to hit
it off to me and say, Mama, we need to
do this because I think that this would be good
for you. You know, if I retire, I do have
(13:09):
a place to go. Yes, then too with my daughter
Nikki for her to continue on this. The legacy that
we have. Grace House is one of my new babies.
It's only been existence for maybe a year now and
we always May, yes, last May, and it's doing very well.
(13:33):
We can only house maybe twenty five and right now
I'm really looking to get into the agencies now where
the agencies bring the seniors to me and it's basically
for the caretakers to drop their loved ones off. They
have a whole day with me, Me and Nikki. We
(13:56):
actually you know, we feed them, we have your preparations
for them, we have activities. The specialty is is the
music therapy, Yes, because music therapy somehow brings back what
they used to do. Yes, So we'll have a session
(14:16):
with them where I'll just sit there and sink with them,
see if they know any church songs. Of course, we
usually just have church because most of the people be
coming in and church, so we usually have church. But
that is really something that I think I'm working on
Gracehouse number two right now, and so it's really something
(14:38):
that we try to give a way out for the
caretakers so that they have a break. Nobody knows about
that until they have to care for their loved ones,
especially when they can't get out, when they can't do
for themselves or you know, they just need a break,
just bring them to the Gracehouse and we're able to
care for them for nine to five. Wow. So yeah,
(15:01):
Nikki is she's doing a wonderful job and really assisting
there and they love her. They love her. They be like,
where's my baby, where's my baby? So that's it's doing
very very well as well. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Do you take donations for the Gracehouse?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yes, we do, we take Thank you, thank you for asking. Yeah,
we do take donations. We've got a donor wall that
we're getting ready to put up. Well, we've had quite
a few people that have donated when I opened this
past year, and the donor wall will basically tell what
they've given and they've really been recipients of this of
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the Gracehouse and donated. So yeah, we do have that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Well, I want to do this then, since you've been
such a joy and such a basic in my life,
I want to donate a thousand dollars of the Gracehouse.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Oh my god, are you sick?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I promise you I will. I will talk to you
after this show and I will do it a thousand.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I would appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Man, if you're doing such an amazing work. I would
I would you.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I appreciate that because that really really helps us. And
I'm definitely gonna put you on that dough on the
wall as being a sponsor for the Grace House because
right now, Jay, I am doing private pay where we're
waiting on the agency the Triple A. They said it
sometimes gets tired to get into it. But the Triple A,
(16:28):
and if anybody knows how I can get in, my
application is already in. I'm just waiting for them to
call and say it's alone with I'm in the waiting list.
So I'm really trying to get that where they will
bring Medicare and Medicaid will send them to us. Yes,
and then that way we can we can actually you know,
(16:50):
keep it moving like that and uh that Medicare and
Medicaid will pay for that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
But yes, whatever, whatever whatever I can do to help
miss doctor Cole.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I forgot it.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
David's yours, It's yours, yours, yours fanastic.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I appreciate that, Jay, thank you so much. Yeah, sure
sure helps that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, So your Singers and Musicians Conference is finally returning
in twenty twenty five, I think long break since COVID
what can we expect from this year's conference.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
We got some exciting things gonna ready happen for the
singers and musicians. Twenty five. We're gearing up for twenty
six for the actual convention, not convention, was conference, and
that's when we're gonna just pull out all the stops.
(17:46):
But right now, in twenty five, we're just going to
do rallies in different regions.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Oh, we'll be coming in there to let you know. Okay,
come on, let's see what talent y'all got here, you know,
and we'll we'll hold the talent there, we'll pull it together.
Maybe by the end of this year, we'll see what
we have and then they'll push it forward till twenty six. Wow,
we'll have winners of course.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah wow. So how does the industry change since the
last comforts it happened.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh, it's changed tremendously. You know, record companies are not
doing like they used to do. They used to send
a lot of the people there, so now everything is
like independent. Yes, so it kind of gets a little
hard for some of the artists because they don't have
the ways and the means to be able to get
(18:36):
to certain places. You know when record companies usually do that,
but it really helps you to understand what the industry
is bringing because you're out there, you're trying to see
what's new, what's hot, what's not and try to get
out there in the gospel industry. So and then it
shows you what your commitment is of how bad do
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you want people to see your talent? Yes, that's that's
the main thing about that. But but I'm glad to
see that there. It's it's changing in quite a few
ways where now it's easier to get music. It's easier, uh,
to get in some of these markets and you just
(19:18):
have to work in mojo.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Wow, So you just come off you just came off
of two major national tours with Kurk Franklin Union Tour one.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Did it feel like being back on the road?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
And oh, well, I mean, you know, we never left
the road.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I know, but I'm saying, like a major like a
tour every night you know you have to tour.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, you're right, And that was a major tour because
we you know, we've done tours before, but this one
was actually a major tour where it was Kirk. We
were playing playing arenas and big houses, this side, and
I don't think that gospel music was really displayed on
(20:03):
that wise in a wow yeah big arenas. You know.
So Kirt really made it happen, and he really kind
of brought out a lot in the industry to show
show people that especially music lovers, gospel music lovers, give
them that chance. Because it was some of everybody that
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was coming out to those concerts just gospel people. There
was secular people that came, you know, so it really
opened up really great. It was a great avenue of evangelism, yes,
of letting people know that you can get this even
if you don't go in the four walls of the church,
(20:45):
you can outside the four walls of the church. Ministry
came to you. So that was the greatest thing that
I saw that this the tours were doing.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So it was everybody at the tour. It was like
everybody came together, everybody had a good time. I'm gonna
tell you this, you were seeing Birmingham. I was sending
that to a guy who's working the margarita at the tour,
so it was like it was so amazing, and it
was just like, and how do you how do you
feel about the people that always have something to say
(21:17):
about what Kirk does on stage, Like people fail to realize,
like at the end of the day, you're entertainers and
you're making us.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
You know, you want to enjoy the show.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And then you have these people who always have something
negative to say, like about Kirk, and like Kirk, he's decent.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Blackie, and you know, I say it all the time,
and I stated that while we were on the tour,
I said, listen, Kirk, don't sing. He don't sing. The
man is a genius in writing. God is so music.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So just let him do what.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
He wants to do.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And he's a bonafie producer.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
That's the way he he gets his feeling. Everybody has
a way of getting their feeling and what they do
and you know, their gestures and things like that. It's
just his way of doing it. I mean, you don't say.
What you want to do is just stand up there.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I love it and I think it's so entertaining y'all.
Like I told you before the show, y'all put on
an amazing show. Thank God, the Clark sisters put on
an amazing show. Y'all need to be the headliner. So
I need to talk to Kurt yes, bring into a
number three. I mean, and how did it feel y'all
went out both times? How did you feel the go
out both times?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
With the what Kirk was saying? Because we was thinking,
Loie's okay, this tour is over. We kind of glad,
and then Kirk caught us back. He said, man, I'm
getting so many people telling me we got to get
the Clarks and got to get the Clarks. And then
he said, we're gonna get the Clarks back. We're gonna
get thee He said, he got a lot of emails
about the Clerks and they will you know, if you're
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doing the second tour, you gotta have them on there.
So that's what happened. That's what happened. And it's a
blessing to see you know that. You know, I think
we were the oldest ones on the tour. Wow, can
you believe that?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And y'all energy was like there energy they see, Yeah,
the energy was there. And that leads into my next question.
Y'all have been around for fifty years, five decades.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, and you sound better than you did in eighty one.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So so it's like, it's how how do you keep
the how do you keep it fresh and relevant because
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, well, I think I think it's really important that
you can't you can't have step. You gotta do what
you've been doing, but add spice to it. You gotta
let people know that you're relevant, you know, for the
times and relevant for the because we just now realize
that we are impacting a whole nother generation. We're talking
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about grandchildren and great grandchildren. Yes, you know, our peers
are basically our age, you know, but now we're the
Lord is blessing us to inspire their children. Yes, now
their grandchildren and great grands So it's a blessing to
be able to have that generational blessings that are being
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passed down to all these generations through our music. So
it is, it's a blessing, and it makes us feel
good to know that we're still out here and we
still getting calls. Some people sitting at home saying, can
anybody call me?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Somebody?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yes, you know, but it is a blessing. The Bible says,
your kid will make room. And I'm gonna tell you
what keeps us around. It is that we're connected and
we work with our church. Yes we work, of course,
we we are members of the Presiding bishops Church, our
brother in law, and so we're all members of that church,
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and so we're working in the church. We're not just
sitting there. But that's how you keep your gift relevant,
is it? If you don't use it, you will lose it.
You can't just sit on your gift. You got the work.
But Lord, somebody sing a song said, complete that work
in you, Complete that work in you. Oh you don't
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know that song? Jay, yay, I can't believe you don't
know that song. A lot of it's not a Clark
System song, but it's a choir song.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Okay, I'm gonna tell you this, well, y'all, I'm gonna
tell you this, y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I want y'all to type in the comments, y'all in
the comments, what that song? Complete this work? Can't you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Think I've heard it before?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
U is singing it? Who's singing it?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
May?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
It's what the alska?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
What the alska? Okay, y'all get him?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Get ja. I know I know everybody watching, I know
most of y'all know what I'm talking about. But it
is on the A N M. Mask Choir. You know.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Florida A and M. You did the Family You Mass choir. Yeah, okay,
I remember that. I remember that.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I remember that. You don't remember I remember what.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The comment I remember.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
When you did the Family when you did the Fami
you thing. I don't remember that song in particular. I
remember it's on that record. Really okay, I did not
know that. I'm going to check it out. Get him
one of your what has been one of your favorite
moments from the recent.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Tours that you.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Favorite moments of them about? Oh god, there's so many. Well,
I think one of our favorites was when we did
get came to Detroit, and of course it was sold out. Detroit.
You know, Detroit got mad love for us, and of
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course we have a mad love for Detroit. They supported
us from they want many of them know us from
Maddy Cathedral. This is my living in Vain, the record
that was performed there, and I mean, you know they
they know that. It was when we did the tour
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both times. The first tour that we did with Kurt,
they gave us the city of the Spirit of Detroit
Ward with the keys to the to the to the city.
So that was something that was very memorable to us
that we will never forget. Then the second time we came,
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of course, they was everybody was just there, just mad love,
mad love, mad love. So it was a lot of
things that we did on the tour. We was in
rehearsal one time and Fred he had surprised us and
gave us a gift of our own director's chairs. Wow,
(28:42):
which was really something that was really really nice that
we all wanted because we you know, we get makeup
done when we wanted our chairs, and so we we
got that. Now, it was this is a lot of
things that Kurt did to make us. You know, he's
always imparted us in our birthdays. Remember that last time
(29:04):
he had me to sing I'm still here, Yes, yes, yes,
So that was really really he always remembered us in
some way, you know, and so we were really really
excited about that.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You serve as the elect Lady of Evangelism for the
Church of God in Christ. What does this what does
this role mean to you? And how does it balance
ministry with music and business.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, of the administrator of the Greater Manual and all
that stuff. That really kind of helped me in the
elect Lady's role as the evangelism as they call it
elect lady that was international, so that that role is
(29:52):
is kind of priceless to me because it really lets
me know that see see back Jay is my first
It's my first love. Yes, because as everybody knows me,
I was the preacher of the group. And so I've
done that for so many years and many many times
(30:12):
that I run ran revivals when I was like nineteen
years old, twenty years old, all the way up until now,
just running revivals and that was my very very beginning
days and I would pass our tracks. Remember I never
will forget. It's a lady called mother. Her name was Mother,
Mother White, Mother Mini White. She took me out on
(30:35):
the streets and I first knew what evangelism was is
letting somebody know about what you know. Yes, taking that
even now as the lady, And thank God for our
desiity Bishop for selecting and appointing me again in this
next quadrinium, and I'm able to move forward with great eyes,
(31:00):
ideas and new things and work with my president of course,
Pastor Gary spree Will and had the pleasure of working
with him. But it's just been an uphel and things
has been just just wonderful seeing that evangelism is not
just inside the church, but it's outside the four walls
(31:20):
of the church. So that and then just singing and
having the official visit with the presiding bishop out there
with the wildfires in la seeing that quite a few
of our people that was devastated by the wildfires and
lost their homes. It's quite a few churches that they
(31:42):
lost their the churches well had to get renovated and everything.
But just to see that it's more than just preaching,
more than just singing. But evangelism is going out in
the highways and hiss and compelling people not just to come,
but to know that there is a risen savior and
(32:04):
he can give you life and you have it more abundantly.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, how's your How has your approach to ministry evolved
over the years, especially in today's digital age.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, you have the same message, but you have new methods.
That's even a part of evangelism is that you have
to know what's going on in the world to be
relevant for and how to go in and out and
to be able to minister. You got to know about
(32:37):
every everybody, all walks of life. You got to know
about the the what is a g the GBS, t
q B, all of them. We got to know about them.
We gotta live and how you know. So it's it's
it's like you have to know all walks of life
(32:59):
and being able to minister. That allows ministry to eat,
ministry to evolve in a way that you're reaching everybody
and not just a certain group. And so that's why
that's so important. You've got to love people. Now, you
gotta be a lover of people, because if you're not
a lover of people, you can't do this ministry wow.
(33:21):
And so ministry has evolved in a lot of ways.
Of course, we're seeing what's going on with the government now,
You're seeing people are losing their jobs left and right,
and it's just like, how how do we send a
message to them to let them know that God can
(33:42):
make this all right? But we have to know who
He is. And so that's that's what the main thing is.
I have a I have a initiative that I have
for the evangelism department. It's called catch the Vision of
the Flame in our In our church, we have a
motto and that is the flame of evangelism will never
(34:04):
go out. So to catch the vision of the flame.
There are certain things that we have to do as
evangelists and as elect ladies that we need to do
on a continuous basis to be able to say that
you are the evangelists that God called you to be.
So we have initiatives and things that we do. We
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give donate clothes at a certain time in the month.
We also give out water to those that's a part
of our you know, it's a part of our initiative.
We give out water because it's a tool of letting
people know and on the bottle of water you have
on your church, your logo, all of that, how you
(34:47):
can get to the church and all of that. So
little tips that we have that keeps you know, ministry bobbing.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, how did it feel for y'all to have at
the time our presidental candidate come vice President Harris at
the Great Manual because.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You all were on tour? How did how how? What
was that experience?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Had to be home.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yes, yes we was in l A. But but the
thing is we had to be you know, have that
support with with Bishop and let him know that we
were definitely supporting Kamala Harris. And it was a blessing
to see And the thing is is that when she
came she even knew the way our culture. She knew
(35:37):
our culture because she says, I know, I got to
Christ you know, and she came in and she even
had a skirt on. I said, I'm talking about but
she I just thanked God for her commitment and how
she stuck it out in spite of the challenges and
(35:59):
you know, the that were thrown at her. She you know,
and then even even when she did not make it,
she still you know, gave love and showed and said,
I'm just you know, uh, y'all, still, let's go in peace.
Let's go, let's do this thing in peace, love each other,
(36:19):
you know. And that shows what a good sport she
was with that running for it. And I believe that
this is not over. I believe God has something great
in store for her for taking that hit and even
supporting the community that supported her.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yes, for young gospel artists and minister's looking to make
an impact.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
What's your best advice to stay true to that? Colin?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
What's my advice is stand true, stay in church. In church.
I think Bishop preached a message yesterday is uh, it's
a necessary to stay in the church. It's vitally necessary
to stay in the church because what church does. It
(37:08):
gives you a glimpse of hope. It gives you inspiration
that in spite of the things and the challenges that
you have to deal with. Church is a reminder that
God is and God can. Church is a reminder that,
in spite of what you have experienced, that I'm trusting God.
(37:33):
There's a faith a factor in this. I'm trusting God
and I'm believing God. Faith comes by hearing. You can't
hear away from church. You can hear away from church,
but some things, but not all things. You know, faith
comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
And the more you hear the word of God, the
better your life becomes. More you know about the stories
(37:56):
that Christ did in the Bible gives you a glimpse
of hope. That's saying, Lord, I know if you've done
it for that woman with the issue of blood, you
could definitely do it. It may not be the issue of
blood for me, but if it may be something else
that I'm dealing with, diabetes, heart trouble, tumors, cysts, whatever
(38:20):
it could be. You see a mask, but you have
hope in trusting God and believing God that you're able.
I've seen you do it for others, and I know
you can do it for I think the wine is
seen that song. Seeing you do it for others, that
I know you're gonna do it for me, you know.
So that's the way I always look at it. That
(38:43):
God has a way of giving us strength when we
go to church. So staying at the church is the
only way that you're gonna survive. You're going to survive.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Wow, I want you two favors.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
One, can I adopt you? That can I dot you
as my auntie?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Absolutely a whole lot of nephews, and I got a
whole lot of nieces.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
That's my aunty down E.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Secondly, this song, I can you sing a little bit
of I respect the miracle?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Oh my goodness, you really love that. So I'm gonna
tell tweety about you. Well, I'm looking for a miracle.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I expect the ambustible, I feel the in dangible, see
the invisible.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
You know that the sky, Scott is it? Do what
I get? I'm singing this, I'm singing the lead and
the background.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Blot what I get? The sky sky? You still limit
to her again just believe you see that?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, you and you see it? Yeah, perform it today?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
And that's how you do it. That wasn't no music,
that wasn't no background tracks. She's a real singer.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
That's that's like, that's years of experience.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Actually, that's how you do it. That's how you do it.
That's how you do it. She's a real singing. They
can say, for real, that's how you do it. There
wasn't no background music, there wasn't no tracks. That was real,
that was real singing. That's many speechless.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Wow, that's.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
I don't do that for a whole out of my nieces.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
And what's next for doctor colh.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
What's next for me? The sky? Yeah, I'm excited about
twenty five. The year of twenty five is going to
I'm looking to survive. I really am to survive, and
not just only to survive, but I'm looking to survive
(41:27):
in all of my entities. My clothing line, the Durm
beauty gods, there's so many things that I got a
new thing I can't really talk about right now that's
coming down the pike and I'm excited about it. But
I am looking for of course, the record is kind
(41:48):
of soothing. And then you know I did do the
the album release and the album release concert that is,
but that is going to be coming out on on
YouTube real soon.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
What this this the one where you when you and
Kiki did the battle. That's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
This one was the one we did in we did
in Maryland.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
What was that when when you were in red and
you and was saying you can't hear it? God? I
was going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
At it was that? No, that was that was new Birth?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
No that it was on YouTube. I have to watch that.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
No, No, that was my That was my twentieth anniversary.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Gotcha, gotcha? Okay, cool cool, cool cool?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Got The newest thing that I just did was the
and that was last year. I did the album release
of this whole album that you just talked about determined.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
So we did mainly mostly all of the songs, just
a few that we didn't do. But but yeah, but
my faith on that record. I got three of them, okay,
and is God never failed, God never fails. And then
he'll make it all right with Marvin Waites, Oh my god, Yes,
(43:13):
of course I made it made it that That song
is as a blessing. Yes to me, that's another one
of my I'm still hearing.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Wow, I'm gonna check that out. And I forgot that
about this. What was it like during the The Clark
Sist movie. It premiered during the pandemic, It was shot
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
What was that like? What was like for you guys
five years ago? Yes, Oh, well, we are working on something.
We are working something now, and we really wanted to
get our brother to really have input and to have
him on on on the next thing that we were
(44:00):
going to put out. But unfortunately when he passed away,
so we were able to get a few things from him,
and because he knew the history of the Clark Sisters,
and I don't think nobody really had a chance to
have an interview with him to talk to him about
his sisters, which we I thought that that's something we
(44:23):
should have had done, but unfortunately it's gone now. But
but yeah, we we that that situation was a blessing
to us and the world because in the pandemic, nobody
was going anywhere. God had to have been up in net.
Everybody was at home watching.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Man and I still watch It's on. It's on two men.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, still watching.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I love that movie.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Man, I would tell you one of the funniest things,
and I know this is not funny. Well, y'all were
walking out of the funeral and doctors and doctor doctor.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Man, we get it all the time, O, Karen. Don't
you think there was just a fussing But Lord of Mercy, Yeah,
it was just a lot of things happening during the time.
And it really most of the stuff you've seen was
really true because it is our story. It is what
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we actually wrote.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, So whis one of the sisters the gangster? Because
I think it's Jackie, but it looked like it's car.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Care got a little gangstand you see them roll start
coming together like this. Look out. Look she about to
say something about but she is when I tell you ususter,
Karen is such such a sweet person to know. And
(46:07):
we're very very close, of course, because we've been like
that since we were kids. You even sit together in church,
so you know, it just goes to show you how
close we are. But we But she's she's such a sweetheart.
She when I tell you, she's a praying woman. She
(46:27):
loves the Lord, she loves her church, and she would
do anything, and her and Bishop is just like the
perfect couple uh or ministry. You know, if anybody was
the pattern their lives behind them, they would I would say,
because I know them and very close to them. If
they're the perfect couple, that God would have to lead it.
(46:52):
This church, the Church of God in Christ, lead this organization.
So I'm very proud of them and proud of what
God is going to do with Bishop these next four years.
Thank God he got back in to all of those
that aboded, God bless each and every one of you.
I promise you you're going to see that the best
(47:13):
is yet to come because I know the works of
our presiding Bishop and what he's done and what he
can do. So, yes, that's my sister and my brother.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
I think, well I'm covering y'all doing gospel festive. I'm
not mistaken. I think that's all my Yes, I think
I'm covering gospel.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, yeah, well not the I want to thank you
so much. You've been such a beacon. You've been such
a relief.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
In my life.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
God has used you, through music and through your ministry
to speak to me directly without even knowing and when
it came across to me, you know, this is this
is the first episode of the new show. And when
it came across and they asked me who would I
wanted anythew I said, I want the Clark sisters for
my first episode. If I can get the Clark sisters,
I want doctor Cole specifically. And my producer said, I
(48:11):
don't know if we can get all of them, but
I can work on this one. And he got it,
and it's just it's just so amazing. Today it's my
very first day with iHeart, and I'm so excited and
I just.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Want to thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
You don't understand how much you've been enjoying my life,
how much your songs and you bought the sunshine. I'm
still here and blessing Holly Favor. I can go on
and on and on. I'm telling you, I listen to
this all day every day, and dealing with what I
was dealing with health wives. Y'all, You've just been such
a beacon, especially you like I'm a I shouldn't say this,
(48:46):
I know I'm get in trouble for I had the
biggest crush on doctor cor seriously, because I'm just such
a fan, and I really appreciate you and it means
so much. It really means so much that you've taken
time to come on this show today, and I just
appreciate it and thank you for adopted me as your nephew.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Were locked in now, yes you are. You are locked in, Jay,
and I appreciate you. Thank you for what you're doing
to keep the gospel artists out there. And let not
just gospel artists, but your show is going to bring
on a lot of people. And I'm excited about your future.
When we put God first, all these other things shall
(49:29):
be added.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
So Yes, I had Tamble a Man, I had Tamla
and David on and I had was on last week
and everybody talked about doctor Cole, praises doctor Cole, and
I just have so much love for doctor Cole and
I want to thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Jay. I appreciate you. Any time me let me know
and see you real soon.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yes, the new Project Determined is now available in stores
wherever you buy your new All this the platforms, all
this the platforms is ready.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
It is ready and available. Just go downloaded.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yes, yes, see in the beauty line, how do they
how do they get it cut.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
How do they reach the PA.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
You're in beauty dot com in the clothing line. Yeah,
in the clothing line. You can go to the Divine
Apparel or you could just type in the DCC the
Rolls collection.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Wow, will be there. You know.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
I'm also on tc T my TV.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Oh well, no, wait a minute, holdo, hold on, hold on?
How is that your past my nose?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Oh yeah, I said, what now show you?
Speaker 3 (50:40):
I remember you did the one with the word network.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
I did the one with the roy We're not with
the gospel according to the renda. Yes, yes, yes, but
I'm not doing that one anymore. It's now tc T
I'm doing that. Of course I have shows there. We
started back up in this year of twenty five. So
we got a great slew of artists that is coming
(51:03):
to the Cleveland area of TCT and they do the
shows there.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yes, when I grew up, come from every where, you sleeping,
you sleeping.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
He helps us to get through it. Man, listen, I'm
just so thankful and grateful that God has given me
the health, the strength and the mind to do what
He's given me to do. I couldn't do it without him.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
And I tell people, you you rarely see gospel artists
that can't sing thirty forty years later, you rarely, you
never see it.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
It's rare.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
K and again, I think you're coming on the show.
The new album is available out now. They y'all have it,
Doctor Derenda clock Cole. I appreciate you coming on the
show today, all love.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Thank you so much, you too, honey, thank you please yea.
So they tell you what the tame off. Tell you Offico,
the tall officer to tell you of the same office,
same office, the tame office on the yeah, the tell
Speaker 3 (52:18):
You were listening to the Jay Walker Show.
Get on up and get down. Let's get this party started, y'all. Baby,
I'm trying to see what you got.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Come on God.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
To the Jaywalker Show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
She is a member of the First Ladies for Gospel
Ladies and Gentlemen. Doctor Drenda. How you doing, doctor Cole.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I am doing well. Thank you so much for having me.
It is always a blessing and joy to be able
to be in tune with people that keep our music
hot and keep us in to know with what's going on.
So I really really appreciate this time with you.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I really thank you for taking time by your very
busy schedule from the Grace House to touring, to being
the elected Lady at the and with the conject So coaching.
I really appreciate you for taking time by your business
schedule to come and talk little.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It really means a lot. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Absolutely, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So let's talk about this new record. Determined what inspired
this new record?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, of course, you know, I was really at a
hiatus for the last seven years, seven years, and you
believe in seven years since I had record out, and
I believe somebody had a hexon hole just getting it.
But it was just seven years, and I was really
kind of at a place of God just redefining me
(01:32):
and preparing me for the next season of my life.
And sometimes God does that to us as people that
are artists, ministers and what have us, and we I
didn't realize that God was really doing what he was doing.
But in the midst of that, I felt like God
(01:55):
was just rekindling the fire that he had within me
because I did always want to stay, you know, in
my writing ability and you know, make my I guess
I want to save my singing career. You know, I
always wanted God to do something new and fresh. I
didn't want to come out with the same thing. So
(02:17):
this record, being in the camp for seven years, you know,
it's just a lot of things going on. It seems
like if I tried to get out, here comes something else.
And it was just always something. So I just told God,
I said, Lord, I said this time, I mean it.
I'm more determined than ever to go through. In spite
(02:38):
of I was not gonna let the enemy put me
in that bag again and send me to the river.
We're not going to do that. And so God told me,
he says, well, if this is what you want to say,
I'm gonna make it happen. And that's how we were
able to really kind of get this record you know,
on its feet, and allowed, you know, to bring good
(02:58):
music that people have I've been warning from Miss Dernda
and it has just been a blessing. I love the music,
I love what it's bringing. And I just believe that,
you know, with you all, and we don't like to
say fans, but our supporters, those that support us now
through the years and just been you know with me,
(03:21):
I just believe that it's it's gonna bless a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So each each track on this album has a powerful message.
Can you walk me through the meaning of great and mighty?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Great and mighty? Of course, when we think of where
God has us and all the things that we've experienced,
we know that every situation brings us into a testimony.
So great and mighty was even through the situation with
me with this record, I knew that God brought me
(03:53):
through this. Of course, He's always great and he's always
gonna be mighty, but he it never ceased to amaze
me what God is going to do next and so almighty.
Knowing that He is everything that we need him to
be and everything that he says he is, we trust
him to be that great and mighty.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So you built the brand beyond music with the with
the cometic, with the cosmetics line and the clothing line.
What is bod you to step into the beauty and
fashion industries?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, the fashion industry was my my first love. It
was something that I wanted to do. And then of
course we had a lot of people that were reaching
out to me when I had my solo project, the
first self self titled project of course, Derinda, and of
course that's where it all really kind of started. And
(04:45):
then people were reaching out to me saying, what do
you think about this? What do you think about the
clothing line? What do you think about this? And so
I first my first thing of stepping out was basically
DNA Vinci Danovici was my first love and I started
there and then I began to branch out into other
(05:08):
clothiers and now at Divine Appair, which I have my
own line. I had my own line when I started
at Danovinci, but my line now is at Divine Apparel,
which is the Clark Cole a Rose collection. Yes, so
from that I was really excited because that brought me
(05:30):
into the marketplace. And so when you're in the marketplace,
you know, people constantly are looking at Oh, that's her,
that's her, that's her, that she does this and she
wears this and she know. So it was so much
easier to get me into cosmetics because you know, of course,
we had a young lady that really kind of really
(05:50):
worked with me. We partnered together to have the Duran,
the Duran beauty line, and of course, you know I
love to make myself up, as you said I have,
as you've seen my plush all well, because as a
kid growing up, me and my sister Karen has always
(06:12):
been like fashion. Fashion. You know, even when we were
starting out in our Clark sister's career, we always was
playing Dows and Barbie Dows back in the day, you know,
totally different from the day now, the Barbie Dows talking now,
but we did all of that. We dressed up Dows.
(06:34):
You know, it's always fashion. And then my mom she
was she was a fashionist too. My mom would come out,
she would be dressed, she would be dressed to kill,
and so we kind of got it from her, and
then from that going into this marketplace of the durand Beauty,
which is doing very very well. Of course, I love
(06:54):
to always make a woman feel good about the beauty
inside of her, so that's what we came about with
during Beauty.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm gonna just say this because you spoke about the
first a self titled project. Lately, I've been going through
some stuff health wise and you know, all over the place,
and it was just a point I'm slim over it
and one song two songs that were three songs actually
that I've I've grown to love that's on my playlist
every day, no matter what anybody who's around me can
tell you, I listened to these they get tired to
(07:25):
be talking about you and sisters.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I listened to I'm Still Here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And one that I recently found that fell in love
with all over again is you Can't Hear of God?
Oh wow, Yes, I just fell in love with that
one all over again. And I'm looking, I'm expecting, I'm
looking for a miracle with you and Clark sisters, and
those songs have been such just such a staple in
my life and especially I'm Still Here? What what what
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inspired I'm Still Here?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, of course I was going through something a situation
that you know, everybody has a situation that they've gone
through that always brings about a song, as I'm talking
about about artists now, yes, so that that song really
came from the depths of my heart and what I
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was dealing with my my It was just a very
very depressing time in my life. And you know, we
get down to there are times when we really get depressed.
There are times when we get really down. You know,
you're sad and you're trying to figure out how to
go get through it. And God was right there for me.
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But I was on my way to the river, getting
ready to commit suicide because I had dealt with a
situation that I just didn't never see myself coming out.
I mean, the only way I could see myself coming
out is that God had to have come through for me.
And so, as a lot of people have heard, I
was driving my car down to belt Out Bridge, which
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is it's a it's a ridge that crosses you over
to a park, and so I was driving down this
is right after I had dealt with the situation, and
I was like, Lord, I don't know, if you can't
help me, then I just can't now be helped, and
I was at that point of just ended my life.
And then God told me, said to renda everything that
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I put inside of you, all of your rear and
bringing up in the church, your mom, your dad, all
of them that put all of that into you. You
can't let that go down to drain. And so then
I begin to hear God's voice. And when I heard
his voice, that made me really kind of stop in
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the position that I was in getting ready to drive
my car off the breeze. So that's how that song
came about. I'm Still Here. I love that song, Thank God.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I love that you don't understand. Seriously that song. I
listened to that song two three times a day off
the red can't I'm still here? You can't hearry God?
I just love wait No, God seems so impoper like,
so uncomfortable. I just I love that song.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You don't understand, but you know what you would probably
love Nobody did this but God.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Then really, let's go check that one out.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You have always try to have songs that will encourage,
that will pierce your heart, and knowing that you can't
do this without God, but nobody. God is another song
that I think you are really like it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Wow, let's talk about your scatting on stage. I love it.
I love it. I love it. You can take a song, hey,
maybe forget the work like I go on YouTube when
I look at your live shows, I didn't caught the
riffs that you're doing now.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I don't forgot the words of the song.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I sticked myself right out right out of not knowing
the words and all that. What's your favorite song to
perform with the my favorite song? Oh, my goodness, of course,
what is it?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
My song?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What is it? What is my song? My Redeemer? Yeah,
my Redeemer is one of my favorite. Another one is God,
God Loves You? Who is so many Twinkies? She was
hitting me of a writer. She just knew how to
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write songs where people are yes. Yeah, you hear a
lot of people saying, you know, I got out of
I went through college, but the only way I can
make it through is that through y'all songs. You know.
So it's a lot of songs. And I just thank
God for my sister Twinkie because she was very, very
inspired back in the day to really write the songs
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and that makes us who we are today. Wow, stop for.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That speaking of my redemon lived then redo that.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Song she redid it? Yeah she did?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
She did.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
With U And yes, yes, I thought so wow that
that was that was good. I saw y'all during the pandemic.
I thank y'all did an AVAU released party and y'all
performed with her. Yeah, I'm a true fan. I'm a
truth and I don't miss no beat. I'm a true fan.
All missed no beat dot the code. Nothing you past
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my nose, nothing to get passed.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Look, so let's talk about the Grace House Senior Daycare Center,
which is which is an important initiative which is led
by you and Nikki, your daughter Nikki to create this
space for seniors. So what led you to create this
space for seniors.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Well, you know one thing, I do love singiors, you know,
because I'll get old one day too. So but my
daughter really kind of she really gets her to hit
it off to me and say, Mama, we need to
do this because I think that this would be good
for you. You know, if I retire, I do have
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a place to go. Yes, then too with my daughter
Nikki for her to continue on this. The legacy that
we have. Grace House is one of my new babies.
It's only been existence for maybe a year now and
we always May, yes, last May, and it's doing very well.
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We can only house maybe twenty five and right now
I'm really looking to get into the agencies now where
the agencies bring the seniors to me and it's basically
for the caretakers to drop their loved ones off. They
have a whole day with me, Me and Nikki. We
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actually you know, we feed them, we have your preparations
for them, we have activities. The specialty is is the
music therapy, Yes, because music therapy somehow brings back what
they used to do. Yes, So we'll have a session
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with them where I'll just sit there and sink with them,
see if they know any church songs. Of course, we
usually just have church because most of the people be
coming in and church, so we usually have church. But
that is really something that I think I'm working on
Gracehouse number two right now, and so it's really something
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that we try to give a way out for the
caretakers so that they have a break. Nobody knows about
that until they have to care for their loved ones,
especially when they can't get out, when they can't do
for themselves or you know, they just need a break,
just bring them to the Gracehouse and we're able to
care for them for nine to five. Wow. So yeah,
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Nikki is she's doing a wonderful job and really assisting
there and they love her. They love her. They be like,
where's my baby, where's my baby? So that's it's doing
very very well as well. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Do you take donations for the Gracehouse?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yes, we do, we take Thank you, thank you for asking. Yeah,
we do take donations. We've got a donor wall that
we're getting ready to put up. Well, we've had quite
a few people that have donated when I opened this
past year, and the donor wall will basically tell what
they've given and they've really been recipients of this of
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the Gracehouse and donated. So yeah, we do have that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Well, I want to do this then, since you've been
such a joy and such a basic in my life,
I want to donate a thousand dollars of the Gracehouse.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Oh my god, are you sick?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I promise you I will. I will talk to you
after this show and I will do it a thousand.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I would appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Man, if you're doing such an amazing work. I would
I would you.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I appreciate that because that really really helps us. And
I'm definitely gonna put you on that dough on the
wall as being a sponsor for the Grace House because
right now, Jay, I am doing private pay where we're
waiting on the agency the Triple A. They said it
sometimes gets tired to get into it. But the Triple A,
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and if anybody knows how I can get in, my
application is already in. I'm just waiting for them to
call and say it's alone with I'm in the waiting list.
So I'm really trying to get that where they will
bring Medicare and Medicaid will send them to us. Yes,
and then that way we can we can actually you know,
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keep it moving like that and uh that Medicare and
Medicaid will pay for that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
But yes, whatever, whatever whatever I can do to help
miss doctor Cole.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I forgot it.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
David's yours, It's yours, yours, yours fanastic.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I appreciate that, Jay, thank you so much. Yeah, sure
sure helps that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, So your Singers and Musicians Conference is finally returning
in twenty twenty five, I think long break since COVID
what can we expect from this year's conference.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
We got some exciting things gonna ready happen for the
singers and musicians. Twenty five. We're gearing up for twenty
six for the actual convention, not convention, was conference, and
that's when we're gonna just pull out all the stops.
(17:46):
But right now, in twenty five, we're just going to
do rallies in different regions.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Oh, we'll be coming in there to let you know. Okay,
come on, let's see what talent y'all got here, you know,
and we'll we'll hold the talent there, we'll pull it together.
Maybe by the end of this year, we'll see what
we have and then they'll push it forward till twenty six. Wow,
we'll have winners of course.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah wow. So how does the industry change since the
last comforts it happened.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh, it's changed tremendously. You know, record companies are not
doing like they used to do. They used to send
a lot of the people there, so now everything is
like independent. Yes, so it kind of gets a little
hard for some of the artists because they don't have
the ways and the means to be able to get
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to certain places. You know when record companies usually do that,
but it really helps you to understand what the industry
is bringing because you're out there, you're trying to see
what's new, what's hot, what's not and try to get
out there in the gospel industry. So and then it
shows you what your commitment is of how bad do
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you want people to see your talent? Yes, that's that's
the main thing about that. But but I'm glad to
see that there. It's it's changing in quite a few
ways where now it's easier to get music. It's easier, uh,
to get in some of these markets and you just
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have to work in mojo.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Wow, So you just come off you just came off
of two major national tours with Kurk Franklin Union Tour one.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Did it feel like being back on the road?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
And oh, well, I mean, you know, we never left
the road.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I know, but I'm saying, like a major like a
tour every night you know you have to tour.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, you're right, And that was a major tour because
we you know, we've done tours before, but this one
was actually a major tour where it was Kirk. We
were playing playing arenas and big houses, this side, and
I don't think that gospel music was really displayed on
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that wise in a wow yeah big arenas. You know.
So Kirt really made it happen, and he really kind
of brought out a lot in the industry to show
show people that especially music lovers, gospel music lovers, give
them that chance. Because it was some of everybody that
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was coming out to those concerts just gospel people. There
was secular people that came, you know, so it really
opened up really great. It was a great avenue of evangelism, yes,
of letting people know that you can get this even
if you don't go in the four walls of the church,
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you can outside the four walls of the church. Ministry
came to you. So that was the greatest thing that
I saw that this the tours were doing.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So it was everybody at the tour. It was like
everybody came together, everybody had a good time. I'm gonna
tell you this, you were seeing Birmingham. I was sending
that to a guy who's working the margarita at the tour,
so it was like it was so amazing, and it
was just like, and how do you how do you
feel about the people that always have something to say
(21:17):
about what Kirk does on stage, Like people fail to realize,
like at the end of the day, you're entertainers and
you're making us.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
You know, you want to enjoy the show.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And then you have these people who always have something
negative to say, like about Kirk, and like Kirk, he's decent.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Blackie, and you know, I say it all the time,
and I stated that while we were on the tour,
I said, listen, Kirk, don't sing. He don't sing. The
man is a genius in writing. God is so music.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So just let him do what.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
He wants to do.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And he's a bonafie producer.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
That's the way he he gets his feeling. Everybody has
a way of getting their feeling and what they do
and you know, their gestures and things like that. It's
just his way of doing it. I mean, you don't say.
What you want to do is just stand up there.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I love it and I think it's so entertaining y'all.
Like I told you before the show, y'all put on
an amazing show. Thank God, the Clark sisters put on
an amazing show. Y'all need to be the headliner. So
I need to talk to Kurt yes, bring into a
number three. I mean, and how did it feel y'all
went out both times? How did you feel the go
out both times?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
With the what Kirk was saying? Because we was thinking,
Loie's okay, this tour is over. We kind of glad,
and then Kirk caught us back. He said, man, I'm
getting so many people telling me we got to get
the Clarks and got to get the Clarks. And then
he said, we're gonna get the Clarks back. We're gonna
get thee He said, he got a lot of emails
about the Clerks and they will you know, if you're
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doing the second tour, you gotta have them on there.
So that's what happened. That's what happened. And it's a
blessing to see you know that. You know, I think
we were the oldest ones on the tour. Wow, can
you believe that?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And y'all energy was like there energy they see, Yeah,
the energy was there. And that leads into my next question.
Y'all have been around for fifty years, five decades.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, and you sound better than you did in eighty one.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So so it's like, it's how how do you keep
the how do you keep it fresh and relevant because
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, well, I think I think it's really important that
you can't you can't have step. You gotta do what
you've been doing, but add spice to it. You gotta
let people know that you're relevant, you know, for the
times and relevant for the because we just now realize
that we are impacting a whole nother generation. We're talking
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about grandchildren and great grandchildren. Yes, you know, our peers
are basically our age, you know, but now we're the
Lord is blessing us to inspire their children. Yes, now
their grandchildren and great grands So it's a blessing to
be able to have that generational blessings that are being
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passed down to all these generations through our music. So
it is, it's a blessing, and it makes us feel
good to know that we're still out here and we
still getting calls. Some people sitting at home saying, can
anybody call me?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Somebody?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yes, you know, but it is a blessing. The Bible says,
your kid will make room. And I'm gonna tell you
what keeps us around. It is that we're connected and
we work with our church. Yes we work, of course,
we we are members of the Presiding bishops Church, our
brother in law, and so we're all members of that church,
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and so we're working in the church. We're not just
sitting there. But that's how you keep your gift relevant,
is it? If you don't use it, you will lose it.
You can't just sit on your gift. You got the work.
But Lord, somebody sing a song said, complete that work
in you, Complete that work in you. Oh you don't
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know that song? Jay, yay, I can't believe you don't
know that song. A lot of it's not a Clark
System song, but it's a choir song.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Okay, I'm gonna tell you this, well, y'all, I'm gonna
tell you this, y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I want y'all to type in the comments, y'all in
the comments, what that song? Complete this work? Can't you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Think I've heard it before?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
U is singing it? Who's singing it?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
May?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
It's what the alska?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
What the alska? Okay, y'all get him?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Get ja. I know I know everybody watching, I know
most of y'all know what I'm talking about. But it
is on the A N M. Mask Choir. You know.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Florida A and M. You did the Family You Mass choir. Yeah, okay,
I remember that. I remember that.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I remember that. You don't remember I remember what.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The comment I remember.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
When you did the Family when you did the Fami
you thing. I don't remember that song in particular. I
remember it's on that record. Really okay, I did not
know that. I'm going to check it out. Get him
one of your what has been one of your favorite
moments from the recent.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Tours that you.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Favorite moments of them about? Oh god, there's so many. Well,
I think one of our favorites was when we did
get came to Detroit, and of course it was sold out. Detroit.
You know, Detroit got mad love for us, and of
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course we have a mad love for Detroit. They supported
us from they want many of them know us from
Maddy Cathedral. This is my living in Vain, the record
that was performed there, and I mean, you know they
they know that. It was when we did the tour
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both times. The first tour that we did with Kurt,
they gave us the city of the Spirit of Detroit
Ward with the keys to the to the to the city.
So that was something that was very memorable to us
that we will never forget. Then the second time we came,
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of course, they was everybody was just there, just mad love,
mad love, mad love. So it was a lot of
things that we did on the tour. We was in
rehearsal one time and Fred he had surprised us and
gave us a gift of our own director's chairs. Wow,
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which was really something that was really really nice that
we all wanted because we you know, we get makeup
done when we wanted our chairs, and so we we
got that. Now, it was this is a lot of
things that Kurt did to make us. You know, he's
always imparted us in our birthdays. Remember that last time
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he had me to sing I'm still here, Yes, yes, yes,
So that was really really he always remembered us in
some way, you know, and so we were really really
excited about that.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You serve as the elect Lady of Evangelism for the
Church of God in Christ. What does this what does
this role mean to you? And how does it balance
ministry with music and business.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, of the administrator of the Greater Manual and all
that stuff. That really kind of helped me in the
elect Lady's role as the evangelism as they call it
elect lady that was international, so that that role is
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is kind of priceless to me because it really lets
me know that see see back Jay is my first
It's my first love. Yes, because as everybody knows me,
I was the preacher of the group. And so I've
done that for so many years and many many times
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that I run ran revivals when I was like nineteen
years old, twenty years old, all the way up until now,
just running revivals and that was my very very beginning
days and I would pass our tracks. Remember I never
will forget. It's a lady called mother. Her name was Mother,
Mother White, Mother Mini White. She took me out on
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the streets and I first knew what evangelism was is
letting somebody know about what you know. Yes, taking that
even now as the lady, And thank God for our
desiity Bishop for selecting and appointing me again in this
next quadrinium, and I'm able to move forward with great eyes,
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ideas and new things and work with my president of course,
Pastor Gary spree Will and had the pleasure of working
with him. But it's just been an uphel and things
has been just just wonderful seeing that evangelism is not
just inside the church, but it's outside the four walls
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of the church. So that and then just singing and
having the official visit with the presiding bishop out there
with the wildfires in la seeing that quite a few
of our people that was devastated by the wildfires and
lost their homes. It's quite a few churches that they
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lost their the churches well had to get renovated and everything.
But just to see that it's more than just preaching,
more than just singing. But evangelism is going out in
the highways and hiss and compelling people not just to come,
but to know that there is a risen savior and
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he can give you life and you have it more abundantly.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, how's your How has your approach to ministry evolved
over the years, especially in today's digital age.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, you have the same message, but you have new methods.
That's even a part of evangelism is that you have
to know what's going on in the world to be
relevant for and how to go in and out and
to be able to minister. You got to know about
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every everybody, all walks of life. You got to know
about the the what is a g the GBS, t
q B, all of them. We got to know about them.
We gotta live and how you know. So it's it's
it's like you have to know all walks of life
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and being able to minister. That allows ministry to eat,
ministry to evolve in a way that you're reaching everybody
and not just a certain group. And so that's why
that's so important. You've got to love people. Now, you
gotta be a lover of people, because if you're not
a lover of people, you can't do this ministry wow.
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And so ministry has evolved in a lot of ways.
Of course, we're seeing what's going on with the government now,
You're seeing people are losing their jobs left and right,
and it's just like, how how do we send a
message to them to let them know that God can
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make this all right? But we have to know who
He is. And so that's that's what the main thing is.
I have a I have a initiative that I have
for the evangelism department. It's called catch the Vision of
the Flame in our In our church, we have a
motto and that is the flame of evangelism will never
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go out. So to catch the vision of the flame.
There are certain things that we have to do as
evangelists and as elect ladies that we need to do
on a continuous basis to be able to say that
you are the evangelists that God called you to be.
So we have initiatives and things that we do. We
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give donate clothes at a certain time in the month.
We also give out water to those that's a part
of our you know, it's a part of our initiative.
We give out water because it's a tool of letting
people know and on the bottle of water you have
on your church, your logo, all of that, how you
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can get to the church and all of that. So
little tips that we have that keeps you know, ministry bobbing.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, how did it feel for y'all to have at
the time our presidental candidate come vice President Harris at
the Great Manual because.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You all were on tour? How did how how? What
was that experience?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Had to be home.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yes, yes we was in l A. But but the
thing is we had to be you know, have that
support with with Bishop and let him know that we
were definitely supporting Kamala Harris. And it was a blessing
to see And the thing is is that when she
came she even knew the way our culture. She knew
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our culture because she says, I know, I got to
Christ you know, and she came in and she even
had a skirt on. I said, I'm talking about but
she I just thanked God for her commitment and how
she stuck it out in spite of the challenges and
(35:59):
you know, the that were thrown at her. She you know,
and then even even when she did not make it,
she still you know, gave love and showed and said,
I'm just you know, uh, y'all, still, let's go in peace.
Let's go, let's do this thing in peace, love each other,
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you know. And that shows what a good sport she
was with that running for it. And I believe that
this is not over. I believe God has something great
in store for her for taking that hit and even
supporting the community that supported her.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yes, for young gospel artists and minister's looking to make
an impact.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
What's your best advice to stay true to that? Colin?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
What's my advice is stand true, stay in church. In church.
I think Bishop preached a message yesterday is uh, it's
a necessary to stay in the church. It's vitally necessary
to stay in the church because what church does. It
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gives you a glimpse of hope. It gives you inspiration
that in spite of the things and the challenges that
you have to deal with. Church is a reminder that
God is and God can. Church is a reminder that,
in spite of what you have experienced, that I'm trusting God.
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There's a faith a factor in this. I'm trusting God
and I'm believing God. Faith comes by hearing. You can't
hear away from church. You can hear away from church,
but some things, but not all things. You know, faith
comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
And the more you hear the word of God, the
better your life becomes. More you know about the stories
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that Christ did in the Bible gives you a glimpse
of hope. That's saying, Lord, I know if you've done
it for that woman with the issue of blood, you
could definitely do it. It may not be the issue of
blood for me, but if it may be something else
that I'm dealing with, diabetes, heart trouble, tumors, cysts, whatever
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it could be. You see a mask, but you have
hope in trusting God and believing God that you're able.
I've seen you do it for others, and I know
you can do it for I think the wine is
seen that song. Seeing you do it for others, that
I know you're gonna do it for me, you know.
So that's the way I always look at it. That
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God has a way of giving us strength when we
go to church. So staying at the church is the
only way that you're gonna survive. You're going to survive.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Wow, I want you two favors.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
One, can I adopt you? That can I dot you
as my auntie?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Absolutely a whole lot of nephews, and I got a
whole lot of nieces.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
That's my aunty down E.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Secondly, this song, I can you sing a little bit
of I respect the miracle?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Oh my goodness, you really love that. So I'm gonna
tell tweety about you. Well, I'm looking for a miracle.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I expect the ambustible, I feel the in dangible, see
the invisible.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
You know that the sky, Scott is it? Do what
I get? I'm singing this, I'm singing the lead and
the background.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Blot what I get? The sky sky? You still limit
to her again just believe you see that?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, you and you see it? Yeah, perform it today?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
And that's how you do it. That wasn't no music,
that wasn't no background tracks. She's a real singer.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
That's that's like, that's years of experience.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Actually, that's how you do it. That's how you do it.
That's how you do it. She's a real singing. They
can say, for real, that's how you do it. There
wasn't no background music, there wasn't no tracks. That was real,
that was real singing. That's many speechless.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Wow, that's.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
I don't do that for a whole out of my nieces.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
And what's next for doctor colh.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
What's next for me? The sky? Yeah, I'm excited about
twenty five. The year of twenty five is going to
I'm looking to survive. I really am to survive, and
not just only to survive, but I'm looking to survive
(41:27):
in all of my entities. My clothing line, the Durm
beauty gods, there's so many things that I got a
new thing I can't really talk about right now that's
coming down the pike and I'm excited about it. But
I am looking for of course, the record is kind
(41:48):
of soothing. And then you know I did do the
the album release and the album release concert that is,
but that is going to be coming out on on
YouTube real soon.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
What this this the one where you when you and
Kiki did the battle. That's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
This one was the one we did in we did
in Maryland.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
What was that when when you were in red and
you and was saying you can't hear it? God? I
was going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
At it was that? No, that was that was new Birth?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
No that it was on YouTube. I have to watch that.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
No, No, that was my That was my twentieth anniversary.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Gotcha, gotcha? Okay, cool cool, cool cool?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Got The newest thing that I just did was the
and that was last year. I did the album release
of this whole album that you just talked about determined.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
So we did mainly mostly all of the songs, just
a few that we didn't do. But but yeah, but
my faith on that record. I got three of them, okay,
and is God never failed, God never fails. And then
he'll make it all right with Marvin Waites, Oh my god, Yes,
(43:13):
of course I made it made it that That song
is as a blessing. Yes to me, that's another one
of my I'm still hearing.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Wow, I'm gonna check that out. And I forgot that
about this. What was it like during the The Clark
Sist movie. It premiered during the pandemic, It was shot
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
What was that like? What was like for you guys
five years ago? Yes, Oh, well, we are working on something.
We are working something now, and we really wanted to
get our brother to really have input and to have
him on on on the next thing that we were
(44:00):
going to put out. But unfortunately when he passed away,
so we were able to get a few things from him,
and because he knew the history of the Clark Sisters,
and I don't think nobody really had a chance to
have an interview with him to talk to him about
his sisters, which we I thought that that's something we
(44:23):
should have had done, but unfortunately it's gone now. But
but yeah, we we that that situation was a blessing
to us and the world because in the pandemic, nobody
was going anywhere. God had to have been up in net.
Everybody was at home watching.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Man and I still watch It's on. It's on two men.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, still watching.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I love that movie.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Man, I would tell you one of the funniest things,
and I know this is not funny. Well, y'all were
walking out of the funeral and doctors and doctor doctor.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Man, we get it all the time, O, Karen. Don't
you think there was just a fussing But Lord of Mercy, Yeah,
it was just a lot of things happening during the time.
And it really most of the stuff you've seen was
really true because it is our story. It is what
(45:32):
we actually wrote.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, So whis one of the sisters the gangster? Because
I think it's Jackie, but it looked like it's car.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Care got a little gangstand you see them roll start
coming together like this. Look out. Look she about to
say something about but she is when I tell you ususter,
Karen is such such a sweet person to know. And
(46:07):
we're very very close, of course, because we've been like
that since we were kids. You even sit together in church,
so you know, it just goes to show you how
close we are. But we But she's she's such a sweetheart.
She when I tell you, she's a praying woman. She
(46:27):
loves the Lord, she loves her church, and she would
do anything, and her and Bishop is just like the
perfect couple uh or ministry. You know, if anybody was
the pattern their lives behind them, they would I would say,
because I know them and very close to them. If
they're the perfect couple, that God would have to lead it.
(46:52):
This church, the Church of God in Christ, lead this organization.
So I'm very proud of them and proud of what
God is going to do with Bishop these next four years.
Thank God he got back in to all of those
that aboded, God bless each and every one of you.
I promise you you're going to see that the best
(47:13):
is yet to come because I know the works of
our presiding Bishop and what he's done and what he
can do. So, yes, that's my sister and my brother.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
I think, well I'm covering y'all doing gospel festive. I'm
not mistaken. I think that's all my Yes, I think
I'm covering gospel.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, yeah, well not the I want to thank you
so much. You've been such a beacon. You've been such
a relief.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
In my life.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
God has used you, through music and through your ministry
to speak to me directly without even knowing and when
it came across to me, you know, this is this
is the first episode of the new show. And when
it came across and they asked me who would I
wanted anythew I said, I want the Clark sisters for
my first episode. If I can get the Clark sisters,
I want doctor Cole specifically. And my producer said, I
(48:11):
don't know if we can get all of them, but
I can work on this one. And he got it,
and it's just it's just so amazing. Today it's my
very first day with iHeart, and I'm so excited and
I just.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Want to thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
You don't understand how much you've been enjoying my life,
how much your songs and you bought the sunshine. I'm
still here and blessing Holly Favor. I can go on
and on and on. I'm telling you, I listen to
this all day every day, and dealing with what I
was dealing with health wives. Y'all, You've just been such
a beacon, especially you like I'm a I shouldn't say this,
(48:46):
I know I'm get in trouble for I had the
biggest crush on doctor cor seriously, because I'm just such
a fan, and I really appreciate you and it means
so much. It really means so much that you've taken
time to come on this show today, and I just
appreciate it and thank you for adopted me as your nephew.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Were locked in now, yes you are. You are locked in, Jay,
and I appreciate you. Thank you for what you're doing
to keep the gospel artists out there. And let not
just gospel artists, but your show is going to bring
on a lot of people. And I'm excited about your future.
When we put God first, all these other things shall
(49:29):
be added.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
So Yes, I had Tamble a Man, I had Tamla
and David on and I had was on last week
and everybody talked about doctor Cole, praises doctor Cole, and
I just have so much love for doctor Cole and
I want to thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Jay. I appreciate you. Any time me let me know
and see you real soon.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yes, the new Project Determined is now available in stores
wherever you buy your new All this the platforms, all
this the platforms is ready.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
It is ready and available. Just go downloaded.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yes, yes, see in the beauty line, how do they
how do they get it cut.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
How do they reach the PA.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
You're in beauty dot com in the clothing line. Yeah,
in the clothing line. You can go to the Divine
Apparel or you could just type in the DCC the
Rolls collection.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Wow, will be there. You know.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
I'm also on tc T my TV.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Oh well, no, wait a minute, holdo, hold on, hold on?
How is that your past my nose?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Oh yeah, I said, what now show you?
Speaker 3 (50:40):
I remember you did the one with the word network.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
I did the one with the roy We're not with
the gospel according to the renda. Yes, yes, yes, but
I'm not doing that one anymore. It's now tc T
I'm doing that. Of course I have shows there. We
started back up in this year of twenty five. So
we got a great slew of artists that is coming
(51:03):
to the Cleveland area of TCT and they do the
shows there.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yes, when I grew up, come from every where, you sleeping,
you sleeping.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
He helps us to get through it. Man, listen, I'm
just so thankful and grateful that God has given me
the health, the strength and the mind to do what
He's given me to do. I couldn't do it without him.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
And I tell people, you you rarely see gospel artists
that can't sing thirty forty years later, you rarely, you
never see it.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
It's rare.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
K and again, I think you're coming on the show.
The new album is available out now. They y'all have it,
Doctor Derenda clock Cole. I appreciate you coming on the
show today, all love.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Thank you so much, you too, honey, thank you please yea.
So they tell you what the tame off. Tell you Offico,
the tall officer to tell you of the same office,
same office, the tame office on the yeah, the tell
Speaker 3 (52:18):
You were listening to the Jay Walker Show.
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