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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, y'all, welcome back to the Jay Walkerson.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm kind of nervous because I'm sitting right here with
the best comedian of all the time, in my opinion,
a legend. Even don't even describe this man from the Hugleist.
The Kings are coming to the coming to get down
to the d Or Hugleis Show. Listen, gentlemen, the one
and only Bo Hugle.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hey, baby boy, I'm sorry in the bar talking stuff to.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
You, but but it's my natural habitat.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So let's wear with it. How you feeling the day?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I feel wonderful, man, Thank you man. It's amazing with
a filter and late night or this.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
We've been trying to do this for a long time.
I've been trying to do this for a year at
this point.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, you know what I just heard.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I just heard about it this weekend with Jay Vega.
My social media guy told me about you. I've seen
the stuff you're done, but I never know what was invited.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
But it's better to be on.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Wow wow Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So let me ask you this, how's your perspective on
I'm involved over the years.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I think you know, I think all of us are
trapped in our particular in our moments and what they mean.
And like you'll hear people go, when I was growing up,
we did this, and when I was growing up, we
did that. When I'm comfortable doing is to assess the
situation for what it is right now. And I think
a comedy, like politics, like music, like art, is a is.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
A product of its time.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
So whatever the majority is feeling, whatever the the the
collective is thinking, is going to be with that product is.
So I don't think any any space or time is
any better or any worse than anybody else. So like
anybody else, I'm I'm more more uh connected to what
I have known, but I'm not opposed to the fact
(01:54):
that people have different perspective of it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Wow. So it's hard for you to right now? It's
harder and.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
No, because it's hard to write because I'm still writing
for my books.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I'm a manufacturer. I make red cups. If you want
red cups, I'm making. If you make it want something else,
I don't. It's really that simple for me. I'm not
trying to be understood or accepted by anybody, because that
I know that would be impossible. The last person that
was accepted by the most of the world, got crucified.
So that ain't where I'm trying to go.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wow, Wow, that's true. So do you find joyce? I
know you I forgot the add in your author So
do you enjoy sending down writing the books?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think it's really all the same thing.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Like it's whether I write a joke or write a book.
It's like it's like a meal at tackle Bill. It's
all the same ingredients.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It's folded in a different ways on what I'm used
it for.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Like if you have a source of water that comes
to your house, some of that water use to cook,
use to clean, you can wasch cars or clothes, the
same source, different uses. And to me, my perspective has
always been that way. So I'm writing the joke for
a book pretty.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Much the same process is a different outlet.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Wow, So what is the next What is the next
Netflix special? I'm waiting on. I know You've got a
lot to say.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You know, I'm working. I'm writing right now, and I
never want to do anything till I got something to say.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, and so it takes last. I've done eleven specials.
The last Netflix special I did was two thousand.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And eighteen, remember that, And.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
So I just haven't had a lot to say that
I wanted to commit to an hour's just here.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But we're working on it and it's coming around.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Wow. Okay, let me ask you this. So you're podcasting.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
No, that's that's the funny thing. I am a broadcaster,
so I have a syndicated radio for it. But I
think the way people can assume what we do is
we'll put it out on social media and they will
assume it's a podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
What syndicated radio when one hundred markets? So you know
we I have to do it every day, four hours,
five days a week. Wow.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Catch you pretty much doing one or two days a
week for thirty or forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's a different it's a different exercise.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Wow. So do you enjoy doing radio?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I love comedy the most, but the most, the closest
I can approximate it too, is radio.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I got a microphone. I get to say what I think.
The difference between radio and and you know comedy is
a radio is less immediate, like I don't know what
people think about what I said immediately, whereas comedy I do.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But they all kind of satisfy the same in Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So let me ask you this. I know, now, how
many times do you get caught downstairs?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So what you see on the.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Radio all the time, all the time, all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It's really it's such a funny.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Thing because you know, I'll be sixty in March.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Wow, and I had different iterations of the things I believe,
and they're always based on what experiences, like I said earlier,
I'm having right now. And for me, my perspective isn't based.
It's not transactional like I'm not trying to but I
understand people the business I'm in, people on a large
(05:25):
audience that they can sell X amount of products the
X amount of people.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
All I'm trying to do is tell you what I think.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So even though our goals are aligned in one way,
they're diametrically opposing another.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I have to always reconcile that with myself.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I always have to understand that some of the things
I say might be not as producive to somebody.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Who's trying to sell something. Wow. So it's something that
I hear all the times.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So let me ask you about the Kings of comedy,
So you you too, the kids of company up to together. Right,
it was the biggest coming to the time. We're problem
still today if the're able to transfer today. But do
you miss it, you two?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
No, I don't miss it because any more than I
missed yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
But I and the only time I hear about Kozy
comedy is when I'm talking to somebody and we were
reminisced on it. I'm very fond of the memories I've had.
They warm my heart. I am, I have fond memories
of them, but I'm I'm so focused on what's tomorrow
then yesterday. So it's almost like it's like when I
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look at my wedding video, when I look at pictures
of graduations, or when I look at birthday pictures. There
are moments to kind of look back, but they also
and hibit your ability to look forward. So as as
gratified as I was and as I am for having
that moment, I'm not married to it. It was a
moment in time that I have a great deal of
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affinity for, but it isn't defining who I.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Am now or what I want to be later on. Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So like that was the biggest thing of his time,
Like what did it feel like at the time doing that,
because like, I don't know if y'all at the time
you didne knew that the impact you would have with
so many comedians.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
At the time, I knew we were doing something special.
I can't tell you I knew. It's almost like I
heard this track star who worked very, very hard and
he broke a regular and they said, are you Are
you shocked? He said, no, you can't be shocked when
you work hard. You can be gratified with the results.
I'm very happy about the results, but I'm not shocked
(07:50):
it was as big as it was because you take
that many people with that mindset in that space, you
know there are people who are there but like mine
and they and they and the energy to make they
can light a light bulb bus literally light a light
bulb bub So imagine if you're aligned and your and
your purposes are really in the direction, imagine what you
(08:11):
could do when you guys are all grounded in the
same perspective. So I'm not shocked at what it did.
I'm grateful for what it did. It's just not something
I visited all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Wow, So the coming to get down was you George
was you, George Lopez, Edi Grits and said entertaining Charlie.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Murphy and and initially Mike gat now to be to
be honest, that is probably the most fun I've ever
had to it wow, because the kings of comedy. I
wasn't really aware of what was happening. I kind of
I could into it that I could see it was.
(08:55):
You know, it's almost like when somebody tells you to
eat it's an eclipse, but you can't.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Really.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
The Little Dogger was like that. But this time there
were nothing that there was nothing.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
At stake except us men who respecting each other, wanting
to work together for no reason at all. We all
we initially got together to give Richard Prior statue and
then we had so much fun we did eighty eight.
Initially it was to honor Richard Pryor was a statue
(09:27):
of the older. And out of that that that that
effort came to you of joying and a TV wow.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So and also you just got up to it actually
last year with the strap jokes, no chase of company.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
To anytime I could work with said an earthquake or
George and and and said, there's some people that if
a if an agent calls me and says, I have
a two with Eddie Griffin, said the entertainer George Lope
or Earthquake or Bruce Bruth, people like that. I don't
(10:04):
even ask what the money was. Wow, I just go
all right, all right, And.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So it was like, it's one of those things.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
So you know, it's so funny me and saying, say
it is a guy who I probably like. We were
at the United Center on New Year's Eve and they
gave us these cases because he and I performed together
more than any other comedians that ever had at the
United States. Wow, say it is the kind of guy
(10:35):
who I've never heard anything said bad about. And I'm
always I'm always in controversy, so it's a weird thing.
Nobody had ever said anything about it. So the whole
cat thing that happened. Part of me was like, thank
you Jesus. Somebody I remember calling him. I said, Man,
(10:57):
I praised that somebody would say something bad because nobody
ever does. I was so happy, so happy. I was like,
thank you Jesus. It ain't just me, but but he's
one of my dearest friends. And uh, I think he's
supported himself in a way that makes it difficult for
(11:18):
anybody to have anything the bad to say about him.
So it was just interesting when I saw somebody do it,
I was like, Okay, well maybe.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So let me ask you this, So, what did you
think about the whole Cat Man?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Cat San, I think that I know I know all
of those man. The thing that makes me the saddest
is that I know I used to play golf with
Cat all the time, and Cat was he. People think
I'm bullshit when I say the story. Cat would hit
a golf ball in a way I never saw anybody hitting,
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and they would go straight down like it was like
the weirdest thing ever. And we said and I would say,
and you know, the whole is that way. He wouldn't
even care who's who swung it the wrong way, and
the ball went the right way. And I think that's
his perspective. So whenever I hear him saying anything, that's
the that's that's the prism I see it from. He
(12:16):
does it his own way, and it still works all
right for for for everybody else. I know all those men,
and I know them differently than they were described. So
it's it's although I can understand someone's perspective. I don't
see those men that way, and it just opened me
up to the possibilities somebody might have a different experience
(12:37):
with people than I did, so I didn't. It didn't
make me happy, but I think that I'm suffice is
to say, we don't all think the same things about
everybody all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, So now I get into the politics. So what
do you think about the twenty twenty four releks?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's really simple for me. Wow, I think that if
you have been been, uh.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Found liable for rape, sexual battery, I think that if
you have found liable for destrauding an entire city to
then till three hundred and fifties five billion dollars million dollars,
if you have tried to overthrow be very constitutionally sword up,
or if you have stolen the nation's secret. Maybe any
(13:30):
job where you can get accused of rate frauds and
stealing a.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Company's secret and still be the number one channel for
that job. So it's not hard for me.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
It's not hard for me, So I'm not even though
I'm very displeased about what I've seen happen in guys,
I'm very displeased that young people didn't get their debt forgiven.
I'm very displeased that things haven't moved as likely as
swiftly as I wanted you to do. But it's very
clear for me. There's one man who made old but
(14:00):
he ain't so old. Body forgets a lot of stuff,
but he never had to get a rate bent to it. Wow,
he never has it. He never had to get to
get in. This dude is selling sneakers. State Tennessee named
me one business that this man ever business he ever
took on there was successful one wow. And so I
(14:24):
love this country and no matter what, there are certain
things that will work out for me.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I have a grand I have two granddaughters. Mans. Yeah,
I want.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
The world on the show to talk about her journey.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, yeah, I want to. I want the world to
be better for them. And if I don't make the
world better for them, what am I here? My grand
My second grandchild was born in September of twenty point three,
and she was born with pure rights that I was
in nineteen sixty four. So no, now, wow, don't I
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don't trust him?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
What do you think about Nicki Hayley and how slavey
come in.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I think that it's convenient the same reason Nikki Haley
when Nicky as their things like America was not a racist?
Well why did you change your name? Why was your
father only to be able to be hired in the HPCU?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Why do you have to pretend like you don't know
a thing? You know?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Like I know that if you use your real name,
they were tat to work American or not. And that's
the thing about black people. No matter what we do
or what we say, no matter how much we love,
Americans are never American or not. And it's only because
of the telor of our skill to pretend like you
don't know that at one point in America it was
illegal for slaves for land, and now many places in
America it's illegal to learn about slaves.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
That is a reality that I can't reconcile within myself.
So it's easy for me to say the decision I
need to make, it's easy.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Twenty twenty four is easy for me.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Wow, I'm kind of I'm glad Rund the standers dropped
out the.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Racis he what he thought? What he thought is that
he could the problem with was Rond Santa was racist?
But he wasn't a rapist racist what the reality says
like if Randon Sanders is hopefully and it was the
apprentice he might have worn, but he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
He's not a charismatic racist.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I just I think when I see somebody else's whole
idea of moving the matter forward is alien in our history.
Telling people who they can love, telling businesses what they
can say, and giving everybody guns and telling.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
The woman what you could do with their bodies.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Like, I can't think of anything the other side did
except try to kill wolf, try to kill diversity and inclusion, try.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
To tell the woman what they could do with their body.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Give rich people text us and everybody guns doesn't work
for this.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So that's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Wow. So I need you to come down here and
get out from down here.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
But you know what's so funny, This is the funniest
thing in the world. Alabama has the longest constitutions in
modern use in the world. It is three hundred and
twelve thousand words, and mostly all of them are taking
freedom away.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Wow, mostly all of them are taking the freedom work.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
The American Constitution is almost eight thousand words, and all
of them are to expand freedom. How is the nation
that yells freedom so much so he'll been on taking
freedom away.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I don't necessarily like the certain people do, but.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I know freedom means that I'm going to have to
accept things that I don't like, because that's what.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Freedom is true. The freest places in the world.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You can't drink on Sundays, you can't smoke weeds, you
can't love who you love, you can't say what you want,
but you can have done that.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Freedom means.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
And the thing that was insulting to me is I
watched a Super Bowl where they had Jesus commercial and
spend almost twenty one millions dollars on commercial expolling.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
The versus of Jesus.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Jesus is the most famous human being that ever lived.
He has a day every week and two holidays, and
the most famous books on the face of the earth.
It's the number one best seller of all time. It
isn't that people don't know Jesus, is that people don't
know many people that act like him.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And then Jesus is behind a team commercial.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
So I want to get saved, but now I need
a car charge it. I didn't put the Lord in
a MOPI in my cart, I don't do it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Oh man, So what are you a Kanye Stan today?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
The same thing I think when Kanye Sebity said about
black people, I was done and I could care less
what people think about that perspective.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I disliked him. You know.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
It's funny. Everybody liked him till he said stuff that
they didn't like. I didn't like him when he said
the initial thing. I didn't like him. When the cebrityes
said about black people, I didn't like him. What he
was doing, he was doing the king.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I didn't like him.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
So I think that there are but I think that
that's how a namor of people are with talent. There's
no doubt that he's an extremely talented man.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But but but you know.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
When.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
The Devil was in heaven, he was the minister of
life music.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
He was so talented. He convinced other angels that they
were better than God. He talked, that's how talent. Talent
made other angels go, we could take God.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well, that's like God's true.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
So I can I can understand how subeductive to do
it is. And it's hard to see your way with
the level of at least a semblance of moral clarity.
I think that if you say the things you say
about black people or do the things you do to women,
you will do it for everybody else. And it's the
same people wait to you walk down the street before
they react to this.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
So what did you think about the Color Russell situation?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think that that fame infamy is better than fame.
But but you know, Alabama taught us two things, One
that black people just win the right and two that
we can be just as morally bankrupt as anybody else.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
But the other thing she said, I I thought it
was morally bankrupt because at the time when she weaponized
to see if black women had of being adjusted, and
nobody cared and calling the people in the action, I
think it is it is.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It was the most incendiary thing to me because who
were Alabama?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Those policemen got there within five minutes and proceeded to
conduct and.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Multi jewishismal service, including the secret service.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
They're honestly haven't been that many white men looking for
a black woman in the South. Is Harriet Tuby And
what you did was play that off for whatever reason.
What you did is take everybody's fears, and and and
and and and and jumped it off for your own
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perspective and your own purposes. There are really people who
are missing right now nobody cares about. And we know
that black people are not judged by the rule. They're
judged by the exception. Most people don't pretend to be
kidding that they are, but they'll look at that and
go because this one person did this thing, I'm gonna
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have john the view of somebody else. And I think
it was callius. I think it was short sighted, and
I think it was constructive to a lot of people
who will come up with wow.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So let me ask you this, give me your Mount
Rustmill comedy.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I won't because it changes all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Oh wow wow.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
But I think asking me to pick five four great comedians,
like asked me to pick four great songs, four great movies,
four great news. Yeah, I think that there are twelve
people I paid the series and from thirty years ago
to the Mount Well, I think that comedy is in
(22:37):
great shape.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And I think the ones who I think.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
At the best insight and the best grasp of it
are people who are determined to be individuals with regardless
of what the world looks like Russ.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Wow, well, I can ask you this, what would be
your ultimate comedy tour? And if you had a curve
or a comedy to it, what will be your ultimate
comedy tour?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Anytime?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I can too said it or speed or earthquakes or
low pez.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
So it got to because he makes so much money,
he don't have to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Uh, Andie Griffin, I mean there there are I love
people who love what we're doing. Mm hmm, tag. I
think would be great.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
To peal rocks. I think there are people who love
what they do and I just want to do it
without all the backdropping pretenses.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And I think that is becoming increasingly different difficult.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
But the people who I think resonate amongst the people
who trust their kind out on plentively, say what they believe,
save what they.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Want and let the chips fall what they what they may,
and those what people want to always retrieve it.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Let me ask you this, so if I know I
read a couple of years ago when you were in Steve.
I don't want to say it was an issue, but
it was like miss words of miscommunication.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
We communicated perfectly, but Steven, my flat brother, give my friend,
so he he I believe that Trump used him. I
believe that his purposes, his idea is going was pure.
But then my period goes and goals are the person
(24:34):
who uh is availing himself to me is perverse. And
so I merely said what I believe. It was never
an attack on him or or his goal. If I
if I, if I'm give somebody, somebody tells me they hungry,
and I give them money and they go all to
get drunk with it, or they go out and do
something that they told me something have an ulterior motive.
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The spirit I give them that thing is blessed. And
I think that's the same thing with Steve. The spirit
he gave that meeting, and that that goodwill to was blessed.
The person was fouled from the beginning so that nothing
good could have came from So it was never.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Between Steve and he knows that.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And I know I think a lot of people misconscruded,
but that's ultimately.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So what's what's next to Dyll? Like, what's next?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I know you're touring every weekend. I know you're working
every day non stop.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I'm hoping to keep doing what I do. I love
what I do.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I love what I do so much. I do it
every day, and I think that it's a weird thing
because I think most people can't understand it. Not my
wife and not my children. I love being plugged for
the matrix. I loved getting on stage. I love writing books.
I love being on radio. I'm writing a sitcom now,
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so we'll see where that goes. But I love different
iterations of myself and putting men by side, adjustable pieces
that go wherever people think they should. But for me,
the idea that I get to do something I love
every day is beyond. And I'm never. I'm never. I've
never looked at somebody like when I see and this
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is just my perspective. I watch people go they only
paid me this for that I got. We Even as
bad as stuff may be in our industry, I don't
know anybody, particularly any black person that gets the money
that way, that gets to recognition they with. So why
would I tell people that have blessed with me get
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less recognition to me, less money than me. Why would
I tell them my problem?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Unless I'm wanting to fight for theirs. I can see
telling you my problems. If I'm wanting to fight for
yours in hope that you fight for mine, what the hell.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I'm gonna tell you about how much money they pay
me on this project or how those I got on
this when you ain't even get respected on your shift.
So it just seems selfish, advangalorious if we're going and
I think the the dilimma of the American worker period
in regardless of what iteration of that you are, no
one has paid fairly versus the value they bring. Nobody
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gets the recognitionators of So my fight should be your fight,
and your fight should be my fight.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's not gonna be fair. I'm just telling you to
fight for me if I want to do that for you.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
If I want to ask you to get paid, I
want drivers and nurses and hotel workers and special workers
your paid. And if I'm not willing to talk about
your struggles along with mine, I won't coop you in
a cell.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Wow. So I know that she was going to do
a show with Fox. That's still going to happen.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Well, it's a different thing, and one day I hope
to tell you about that fuller. But I'll say this,
I'm sad about what I see.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
In this level of.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Antagonism and comedy, and I'm very sad about the part
of had to play in.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I felt like, you know, I've worked.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Very hard to be a solid dude, but some things
you just can't let go. And I'm sad that now
there's a narrative that black comedies the new wild wild West,
and that we're all antagonistic, and we are, and it
makes me very sad, particularly the part.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I've played in it.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
And I just I am very sad about the perspective
that an art form that its delivered so many people
that I love and care about, and it shove in
the world, and it's been expansive and wonderful to be
in this kind of male usual.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
We are, uh the butt of the joke to selling television.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
That makes me say wow. So when are you coming
to Birmingham for tour? I can't wait soon? Soone trying
to come you? You always sold out to.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You whether I better listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I can't sit up in the middle of the press
run ress runners unless I ain't sold out, right, You.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Got a point?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Let me otherwise I'd be an applebee.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I gotta get out of Applebee.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Wait, their sponsor. I'm so sorry. I take that all back.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So let me ask you this. Yeah, would you my
All right, y'all, welcome back to the Jay Walkerson.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm kind of nervous because I'm sitting right here with
the best comedian of all the time, in my opinion,
a legend. Even don't even describe this man from the Hugleist.
The Kings are coming to the coming to get down
to the d Or Hugleis Show. Listen, gentlemen, the one
and only Bo Hugle.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hey, baby boy, I'm sorry in the bar talking stuff to.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
You, but but it's my natural habitat.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So let's wear with it. How you feeling the day?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I feel wonderful, man, Thank you man. It's amazing with
a filter and late night or this.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
We've been trying to do this for a long time.
I've been trying to do this for a year at
this point.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, you know what I just heard.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I just heard about it this weekend with Jay Vega.
My social media guy told me about you. I've seen
the stuff you're done, but I never know what was invited.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
But it's better to be on.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Wow wow Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So let me ask you this, how's your perspective on
I'm involved over the years.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I think you know, I think all of us are
trapped in our particular in our moments and what they mean.
And like you'll hear people go, when I was growing up,
we did this, and when I was growing up, we
did that. When I'm comfortable doing is to assess the
situation for what it is right now. And I think
a comedy, like politics, like music, like art, is a is.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
A product of its time.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
So whatever the majority is feeling, whatever the the the
collective is thinking, is going to be with that product is.
So I don't think any any space or time is
any better or any worse than anybody else. So like
anybody else, I'm I'm more more uh connected to what
I have known, but I'm not opposed to the fact
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that people have different perspective of it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Wow. So it's hard for you to right now? It's
harder and.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
No, because it's hard to write because I'm still writing
for my books.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I'm a manufacturer. I make red cups. If you want
red cups, I'm making. If you make it want something else,
I don't. It's really that simple for me. I'm not
trying to be understood or accepted by anybody, because that
I know that would be impossible. The last person that
was accepted by the most of the world, got crucified.
So that ain't where I'm trying to go.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wow, Wow, that's true. So do you find joyce? I
know you I forgot the add in your author So
do you enjoy sending down writing the books?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think it's really all the same thing.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Like it's whether I write a joke or write a book.
It's like it's like a meal at tackle Bill. It's
all the same ingredients.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It's folded in a different ways on what I'm used
it for.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Like if you have a source of water that comes
to your house, some of that water use to cook,
use to clean, you can wasch cars or clothes, the
same source, different uses. And to me, my perspective has
always been that way. So I'm writing the joke for
a book pretty.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Much the same process is a different outlet.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Wow, So what is the next What is the next
Netflix special? I'm waiting on. I know You've got a
lot to say.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You know, I'm working. I'm writing right now, and I
never want to do anything till I got something to say.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, and so it takes last. I've done eleven specials.
The last Netflix special I did was two thousand.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And eighteen, remember that, And.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
So I just haven't had a lot to say that
I wanted to commit to an hour's just here.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But we're working on it and it's coming around.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Wow. Okay, let me ask you this. So you're podcasting.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
No, that's that's the funny thing. I am a broadcaster,
so I have a syndicated radio for it. But I
think the way people can assume what we do is
we'll put it out on social media and they will
assume it's a podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
What syndicated radio when one hundred markets? So you know
we I have to do it every day, four hours,
five days a week. Wow.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Catch you pretty much doing one or two days a
week for thirty or forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's a different it's a different exercise.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Wow. So do you enjoy doing radio?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I love comedy the most, but the most, the closest
I can approximate it too, is radio.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I got a microphone. I get to say what I think.
The difference between radio and and you know comedy is
a radio is less immediate, like I don't know what
people think about what I said immediately, whereas comedy I do.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But they all kind of satisfy the same in Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So let me ask you this. I know, now, how
many times do you get caught downstairs?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So what you see on the.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Radio all the time, all the time, all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It's really it's such a funny.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Thing because you know, I'll be sixty in March.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Wow, and I had different iterations of the things I believe,
and they're always based on what experiences, like I said earlier,
I'm having right now. And for me, my perspective isn't based.
It's not transactional like I'm not trying to but I
understand people the business I'm in, people on a large
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audience that they can sell X amount of products the
X amount of people.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
All I'm trying to do is tell you what I think.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So even though our goals are aligned in one way,
they're diametrically opposing another.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I have to always reconcile that with myself.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I always have to understand that some of the things
I say might be not as producive to somebody.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Who's trying to sell something. Wow. So it's something that
I hear all the times.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So let me ask you about the Kings of comedy,
So you you too, the kids of company up to together. Right,
it was the biggest coming to the time. We're problem
still today if the're able to transfer today. But do
you miss it, you two?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
No, I don't miss it because any more than I
missed yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
But I and the only time I hear about Kozy
comedy is when I'm talking to somebody and we were
reminisced on it. I'm very fond of the memories I've had.
They warm my heart. I am, I have fond memories
of them, but I'm I'm so focused on what's tomorrow
then yesterday. So it's almost like it's like when I
(06:44):
look at my wedding video, when I look at pictures
of graduations, or when I look at birthday pictures. There
are moments to kind of look back, but they also
and hibit your ability to look forward. So as as
gratified as I was and as I am for having
that moment, I'm not married to it. It was a
moment in time that I have a great deal of
(07:06):
affinity for, but it isn't defining who I.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Am now or what I want to be later on. Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So like that was the biggest thing of his time,
Like what did it feel like at the time doing that,
because like, I don't know if y'all at the time
you didne knew that the impact you would have with
so many comedians.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
At the time, I knew we were doing something special.
I can't tell you I knew. It's almost like I
heard this track star who worked very, very hard and
he broke a regular and they said, are you Are
you shocked? He said, no, you can't be shocked when
you work hard. You can be gratified with the results.
I'm very happy about the results, but I'm not shocked
(07:50):
it was as big as it was because you take
that many people with that mindset in that space, you
know there are people who are there but like mine
and they and they and the energy to make they
can light a light bulb bus literally light a light
bulb bub So imagine if you're aligned and your and
your purposes are really in the direction, imagine what you
(08:11):
could do when you guys are all grounded in the
same perspective. So I'm not shocked at what it did.
I'm grateful for what it did. It's just not something
I visited all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Wow, So the coming to get down was you George
was you, George Lopez, Edi Grits and said entertaining Charlie.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Murphy and and initially Mike gat now to be to
be honest, that is probably the most fun I've ever
had to it wow, because the kings of comedy. I
wasn't really aware of what was happening. I kind of
I could into it that I could see it was.
(08:55):
You know, it's almost like when somebody tells you to
eat it's an eclipse, but you can't.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Really.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
The Little Dogger was like that. But this time there
were nothing that there was nothing.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
At stake except us men who respecting each other, wanting
to work together for no reason at all. We all
we initially got together to give Richard Prior statue and
then we had so much fun we did eighty eight.
Initially it was to honor Richard Pryor was a statue
(09:27):
of the older. And out of that that that that
effort came to you of joying and a TV wow.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So and also you just got up to it actually
last year with the strap jokes, no chase of company.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
To anytime I could work with said an earthquake or
George and and and said, there's some people that if
a if an agent calls me and says, I have
a two with Eddie Griffin, said the entertainer George Lope
or Earthquake or Bruce Bruth, people like that. I don't
(10:04):
even ask what the money was. Wow, I just go
all right, all right, And.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So it was like, it's one of those things.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
So you know, it's so funny me and saying, say
it is a guy who I probably like. We were
at the United Center on New Year's Eve and they
gave us these cases because he and I performed together
more than any other comedians that ever had at the
United States. Wow, say it is the kind of guy
(10:35):
who I've never heard anything said bad about. And I'm
always I'm always in controversy, so it's a weird thing.
Nobody had ever said anything about it. So the whole
cat thing that happened. Part of me was like, thank
you Jesus. Somebody I remember calling him. I said, Man,
(10:57):
I praised that somebody would say something bad because nobody
ever does. I was so happy, so happy. I was like,
thank you Jesus. It ain't just me, but but he's
one of my dearest friends. And uh, I think he's
supported himself in a way that makes it difficult for
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anybody to have anything the bad to say about him.
So it was just interesting when I saw somebody do it,
I was like, Okay, well maybe.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So let me ask you this, So, what did you
think about the whole Cat Man?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Cat San, I think that I know I know all
of those man. The thing that makes me the saddest
is that I know I used to play golf with
Cat all the time, and Cat was he. People think
I'm bullshit when I say the story. Cat would hit
a golf ball in a way I never saw anybody hitting,
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and they would go straight down like it was like
the weirdest thing ever. And we said and I would say,
and you know, the whole is that way. He wouldn't
even care who's who swung it the wrong way, and
the ball went the right way. And I think that's
his perspective. So whenever I hear him saying anything, that's
the that's that's the prism I see it from. He
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does it his own way, and it still works all
right for for for everybody else. I know all those men,
and I know them differently than they were described. So
it's it's although I can understand someone's perspective. I don't
see those men that way, and it just opened me
up to the possibilities somebody might have a different experience
(12:37):
with people than I did, so I didn't. It didn't
make me happy, but I think that I'm suffice is
to say, we don't all think the same things about
everybody all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, So now I get into the politics. So what
do you think about the twenty twenty four releks?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's really simple for me. Wow, I think that if
you have been been, uh.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Found liable for rape, sexual battery, I think that if
you have found liable for destrauding an entire city to
then till three hundred and fifties five billion dollars million dollars,
if you have tried to overthrow be very constitutionally sword up,
or if you have stolen the nation's secret. Maybe any
(13:30):
job where you can get accused of rate frauds and
stealing a.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Company's secret and still be the number one channel for
that job. So it's not hard for me.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
It's not hard for me, So I'm not even though
I'm very displeased about what I've seen happen in guys,
I'm very displeased that young people didn't get their debt forgiven.
I'm very displeased that things haven't moved as likely as
swiftly as I wanted you to do. But it's very
clear for me. There's one man who made old but
(14:00):
he ain't so old. Body forgets a lot of stuff,
but he never had to get a rate bent to it. Wow,
he never has it. He never had to get to
get in. This dude is selling sneakers. State Tennessee named
me one business that this man ever business he ever
took on there was successful one wow. And so I
(14:24):
love this country and no matter what, there are certain
things that will work out for me.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I have a grand I have two granddaughters. Mans. Yeah,
I want.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
The world on the show to talk about her journey.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, yeah, I want to. I want the world to
be better for them. And if I don't make the
world better for them, what am I here? My grand
My second grandchild was born in September of twenty point three,
and she was born with pure rights that I was
in nineteen sixty four. So no, now, wow, don't I
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don't trust him?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
What do you think about Nicki Hayley and how slavey
come in.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I think that it's convenient the same reason Nikki Haley
when Nicky as their things like America was not a racist?
Well why did you change your name? Why was your
father only to be able to be hired in the HPCU?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Why do you have to pretend like you don't know
a thing? You know?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Like I know that if you use your real name,
they were tat to work American or not. And that's
the thing about black people. No matter what we do
or what we say, no matter how much we love,
Americans are never American or not. And it's only because
of the telor of our skill to pretend like you
don't know that at one point in America it was
illegal for slaves for land, and now many places in
America it's illegal to learn about slaves.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
That is a reality that I can't reconcile within myself.
So it's easy for me to say the decision I
need to make, it's easy.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Twenty twenty four is easy for me.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Wow, I'm kind of I'm glad Rund the standers dropped
out the.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Racis he what he thought? What he thought is that
he could the problem with was Rond Santa was racist?
But he wasn't a rapist racist what the reality says
like if Randon Sanders is hopefully and it was the
apprentice he might have worn, but he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
He's not a charismatic racist.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I just I think when I see somebody else's whole
idea of moving the matter forward is alien in our history.
Telling people who they can love, telling businesses what they
can say, and giving everybody guns and telling.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
The woman what you could do with their bodies.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Like, I can't think of anything the other side did
except try to kill wolf, try to kill diversity and inclusion, try.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
To tell the woman what they could do with their body.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Give rich people text us and everybody guns doesn't work
for this.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So that's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Wow. So I need you to come down here and
get out from down here.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
But you know what's so funny, This is the funniest
thing in the world. Alabama has the longest constitutions in
modern use in the world. It is three hundred and
twelve thousand words, and mostly all of them are taking
freedom away.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Wow, mostly all of them are taking the freedom work.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
The American Constitution is almost eight thousand words, and all
of them are to expand freedom. How is the nation
that yells freedom so much so he'll been on taking
freedom away.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I don't necessarily like the certain people do, but.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I know freedom means that I'm going to have to
accept things that I don't like, because that's what.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Freedom is true. The freest places in the world.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You can't drink on Sundays, you can't smoke weeds, you
can't love who you love, you can't say what you want,
but you can have done that.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Freedom means.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
And the thing that was insulting to me is I
watched a Super Bowl where they had Jesus commercial and
spend almost twenty one millions dollars on commercial expolling.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
The versus of Jesus.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Jesus is the most famous human being that ever lived.
He has a day every week and two holidays, and
the most famous books on the face of the earth.
It's the number one best seller of all time. It
isn't that people don't know Jesus, is that people don't
know many people that act like him.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And then Jesus is behind a team commercial.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
So I want to get saved, but now I need
a car charge it. I didn't put the Lord in
a MOPI in my cart, I don't do it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Oh man, So what are you a Kanye Stan today?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
The same thing I think when Kanye Sebity said about
black people, I was done and I could care less
what people think about that perspective.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I disliked him. You know.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
It's funny. Everybody liked him till he said stuff that
they didn't like. I didn't like him when he said
the initial thing. I didn't like him. When the cebrityes
said about black people, I didn't like him. What he
was doing, he was doing the king.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I didn't like him.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
So I think that there are but I think that
that's how a namor of people are with talent. There's
no doubt that he's an extremely talented man.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But but but you know.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
When.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
The Devil was in heaven, he was the minister of
life music.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
He was so talented. He convinced other angels that they
were better than God. He talked, that's how talent. Talent
made other angels go, we could take God.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well, that's like God's true.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
So I can I can understand how subeductive to do
it is. And it's hard to see your way with
the level of at least a semblance of moral clarity.
I think that if you say the things you say
about black people or do the things you do to women,
you will do it for everybody else. And it's the
same people wait to you walk down the street before
they react to this.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
So what did you think about the Color Russell situation?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think that that fame infamy is better than fame.
But but you know, Alabama taught us two things, One
that black people just win the right and two that
we can be just as morally bankrupt as anybody else.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
But the other thing she said, I I thought it
was morally bankrupt because at the time when she weaponized
to see if black women had of being adjusted, and
nobody cared and calling the people in the action, I
think it is it is.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It was the most incendiary thing to me because who
were Alabama?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Those policemen got there within five minutes and proceeded to
conduct and.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Multi jewishismal service, including the secret service.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
They're honestly haven't been that many white men looking for
a black woman in the South. Is Harriet Tuby And
what you did was play that off for whatever reason.
What you did is take everybody's fears, and and and
and and and and jumped it off for your own
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perspective and your own purposes. There are really people who
are missing right now nobody cares about. And we know
that black people are not judged by the rule. They're
judged by the exception. Most people don't pretend to be
kidding that they are, but they'll look at that and
go because this one person did this thing, I'm gonna
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have john the view of somebody else. And I think
it was callius. I think it was short sighted, and
I think it was constructive to a lot of people
who will come up with wow.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So let me ask you this, give me your Mount
Rustmill comedy.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I won't because it changes all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Oh wow wow.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
But I think asking me to pick five four great comedians,
like asked me to pick four great songs, four great movies,
four great news. Yeah, I think that there are twelve
people I paid the series and from thirty years ago
to the Mount Well, I think that comedy is in
(22:37):
great shape.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And I think the ones who I think.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
At the best insight and the best grasp of it
are people who are determined to be individuals with regardless
of what the world looks like Russ.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Wow, well, I can ask you this, what would be
your ultimate comedy tour? And if you had a curve
or a comedy to it, what will be your ultimate
comedy tour?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Anytime?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I can too said it or speed or earthquakes or
low pez.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
So it got to because he makes so much money,
he don't have to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Uh, Andie Griffin, I mean there there are I love
people who love what we're doing. Mm hmm, tag. I
think would be great.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
To peal rocks. I think there are people who love
what they do and I just want to do it
without all the backdropping pretenses.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And I think that is becoming increasingly different difficult.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
But the people who I think resonate amongst the people
who trust their kind out on plentively, say what they believe,
save what they.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Want and let the chips fall what they what they may,
and those what people want to always retrieve it.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Let me ask you this, so if I know I
read a couple of years ago when you were in Steve.
I don't want to say it was an issue, but
it was like miss words of miscommunication.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
We communicated perfectly, but Steven, my flat brother, give my friend,
so he he I believe that Trump used him. I
believe that his purposes, his idea is going was pure.
But then my period goes and goals are the person
(24:34):
who uh is availing himself to me is perverse. And
so I merely said what I believe. It was never
an attack on him or or his goal. If I
if I, if I'm give somebody, somebody tells me they hungry,
and I give them money and they go all to
get drunk with it, or they go out and do
something that they told me something have an ulterior motive.
(24:57):
The spirit I give them that thing is blessed. And
I think that's the same thing with Steve. The spirit
he gave that meeting, and that that goodwill to was blessed.
The person was fouled from the beginning so that nothing
good could have came from So it was never.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Between Steve and he knows that.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And I know I think a lot of people misconscruded,
but that's ultimately.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So what's what's next to Dyll? Like, what's next?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I know you're touring every weekend. I know you're working
every day non stop.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I'm hoping to keep doing what I do. I love
what I do.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I love what I do so much. I do it
every day, and I think that it's a weird thing
because I think most people can't understand it. Not my
wife and not my children. I love being plugged for
the matrix. I loved getting on stage. I love writing books.
I love being on radio. I'm writing a sitcom now,
(25:53):
so we'll see where that goes. But I love different
iterations of myself and putting men by side, adjustable pieces
that go wherever people think they should. But for me,
the idea that I get to do something I love
every day is beyond. And I'm never. I'm never. I've
never looked at somebody like when I see and this
(26:16):
is just my perspective. I watch people go they only
paid me this for that I got. We Even as
bad as stuff may be in our industry, I don't
know anybody, particularly any black person that gets the money
that way, that gets to recognition they with. So why
would I tell people that have blessed with me get
(26:37):
less recognition to me, less money than me. Why would
I tell them my problem?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Unless I'm wanting to fight for theirs. I can see
telling you my problems. If I'm wanting to fight for
yours in hope that you fight for mine, what the hell.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I'm gonna tell you about how much money they pay
me on this project or how those I got on
this when you ain't even get respected on your shift.
So it just seems selfish, advangalorious if we're going and
I think the the dilimma of the American worker period
in regardless of what iteration of that you are, no
one has paid fairly versus the value they bring. Nobody
(27:14):
gets the recognitionators of So my fight should be your fight,
and your fight should be my fight.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's not gonna be fair. I'm just telling you to
fight for me if I want to do that for you.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
If I want to ask you to get paid, I
want drivers and nurses and hotel workers and special workers
your paid. And if I'm not willing to talk about
your struggles along with mine, I won't coop you in
a cell.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Wow. So I know that she was going to do
a show with Fox. That's still going to happen.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Well, it's a different thing, and one day I hope
to tell you about that fuller. But I'll say this,
I'm sad about what I see.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
In this level of.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Antagonism and comedy, and I'm very sad about the part
of had to play in.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I felt like, you know, I've worked.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Very hard to be a solid dude, but some things
you just can't let go. And I'm sad that now
there's a narrative that black comedies the new wild wild West,
and that we're all antagonistic, and we are, and it
makes me very sad, particularly the part.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I've played in it.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
And I just I am very sad about the perspective
that an art form that its delivered so many people
that I love and care about, and it shove in
the world, and it's been expansive and wonderful to be
in this kind of male usual.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
We are, uh the butt of the joke to selling television.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
That makes me say wow. So when are you coming
to Birmingham for tour? I can't wait soon? Soone trying
to come you? You always sold out to.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You whether I better listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I can't sit up in the middle of the press
run ress runners unless I ain't sold out, right, You.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Got a point?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Let me otherwise I'd be an applebee.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I gotta get out of Applebee.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Wait, their sponsor. I'm so sorry. I take that all back.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So let me ask you this. Yeah, would you my
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