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October 22, 2025 20 mins
Jay Walker dives into the 22-day Trump shutdown, the context behind the viral Bishop Marvin Winans clip, and Stephen A. Smith's comments about Jasmine Crockett. He also launches the new "Mess Train" advice segment with a shocking letter from a listener in a dilemma.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Uh, get on up and get down.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good money.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Let's get this party started, y'all. Jail baby, I'm trying
to see what you got.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Come on, good morn, good money, good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I see you.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Were back, were back.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know what coming is? You know what com it is?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Jaywalk?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Come on, let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Walk Sojay you walk the shop the Jay Walker Show.
Tell you off the soopjak so tall the shut Yeah shp.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
You were listening to the Jay Walker Show. Welcome in,
Welcome in.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
This is top of the hour of twenty days, the
twenty second. Today is October twenty second, twenty twenty five,
and I'm your host, jay Walker. Of course I want
to walk in my name into the Jay Walker Show.
I'm so grateful that you are joining me today. Man,
today's show is gonna be great. Let me say this.
We are it's so much to talk about. We are
twenty two days in until the Trump shut down, and

(01:22):
this food is over here building a ballroom. My god,
my god, my god, it's so much to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Today. We gotta talk. I gotta talk about Bishop Marvil.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Winings and and and I told y'all when I want
to show back, I'm gonna be doing new segments. So
one of those settings I'm doing is called the Mess Train.
The Mess Train is where all of my listeners are
across the country are gonna bailly, they gonna write in,
and they're gonna tell me every day.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
We're gonna read these leks. We're gonna read them every day.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
They're gonna write in, and they're gonna tell me whatever
mess they got going on, and I'm gonna give them
my honer's opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
So basically, they're asking me for advice.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
And and I got a lot of letters already, and
what I'm gonna read today, Oh my god, those wouldn't
have me in.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
And now I just read the subject line.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I hadn't even read the letter yet because I'm gonna
be in a surprise with you. Now that's gonna be crazy.
And I'm also doing another back when we used to
do the show, the when me, when I did the
Teennate Show with Sean and Cary, I had different characters
I did on the show. I did like an old lady, church,
the old church lady, and I did like a little

(02:36):
I did. I did an old pastor, I did the
pastor and the church announcements, church complaints is what they were.
I did church complaints, and yeah they were funny. So
I'm gonna bring those back. But I'm waiting on my
equipment to come in before I do that, because I
have to be I gotta be in the zone for that.
But I got so much to talk about today. It's

(02:56):
so much to talk about today. First, let's talk about
how we are twenty two days into the Donald Trump shutdown.
It's crazy. I know I briefed about it yesterday, but
we are twenty two days in. And the scary part

(03:18):
to me is that the Republicans, the Republicans, they don't care.
They don't care. They don't care, and it's crazy because
so many people are being affected. TSA line is along
and government employees are not being paid. That is crazy.

(03:41):
That's crazy, and it's affecting so many different people on
so many different levels. Think about the Think about the
elder senior citizen who just getting something's going on with
their check and they got a call to the Social
Security Office and they can't get a cut up with
Security office because.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
It's it's shut down.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
The government is shut down, and Trump is meanwhile building
a two hundred million dollar ballroom that he's not even
gonna be able to experience. That's crazy. Nobody builds a
two hundred million dollar ballroom and leave. That's crazy. Nobody
puts a nobody puts a two hundred million dollar ballroom
in their house and leave. That's crazy. Yo, that's sickening.

(04:29):
That's that's sickening. That's that's crazy. That's crazy. So you know,
this government shut down has affected so many people, man
and and and you know, I look at I look
at TikTok, and I look at Instagram, and I see
the amount of people that is affecting. And the government
don't give a damn. They don't care. They don't care

(04:52):
if it ain't Trump and one of his rich buddies.
They don't care. Mike, just to keep holding the house up.
They don't give a damn. It's crazy. They don't care.
They don't care about nobody but themselves. And you know
all these ICE I just saw where two people were
shot doing the ICE agent traffic stoff. That's what they asked.

(05:14):
Let me tell you this right here, let me tell
you this right here. They ass it's in the world
of trouble because you have ICE agents attacking innocent people.
Did y'all did y'all in Chicago about a week ago,

(05:38):
the Ice agents went in and rated these people out.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Of their homes for no freaking reason. And it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
And Trump is sitting up here and he's normalizing this stuff,
and he's weaponizing this stuff. This is crazy. That's why
I'm so grateful. We have people like Hangings Adjustment Rocket
who's speaking up on it. That's why I'm so grateful.
We have people like DL who's speaking up on me.
That's why I'm so grateful. We have people at Roland Martin.
Even though I don't agree with everything Roland Martin said,

(06:10):
I'm grateful we have people like Roland Martin who's getting out,
who's speaking on who's speaking on.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
These things, who's speaking on them?

Speaker 4 (06:17):
So oh, speaking of Jasmine Crockett, y'all know, I got
ADHD speaking of Jasmin Crockett, Stephen Snath his ass be,
how am the hell it's your achnic cool? And how
in the hell is your ad? How in the hell
you're gonna sit here called Jasmin Crockett ghetto? No what

(06:38):
Jasmine Crockett is? Jason Crockett gonna take no bs? See
Stephen A. Smith Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Smith.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
That's what he's known for. That's what he's known for.
And I'm not mistaken. He's supposed to come on the
show sometime in a few beats. And I'm a color
line this bee. Yes, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I don't care who you is. I'm gonna call you
out of her at this new.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Stage and this you know, i'dne been through some Sugar
Hunter and Ice Tea recently. Note to where I let
a point where it is what it is. It is
what it is. Everybody know, it's all out there. It
is what it is, and I don't give a job
about it. It is what it is. So I met
a point in my life I'm gonna call you out
on anything that you do. I would tell you how

(07:26):
it is. Man, My, my, my, my, my. One of
my friends she was like, oh my god, how does
dress look?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Baby? That's the title? Your baby?

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Go away and put something else on baby. That that
that that that's a little too tired for you right there.
She ain't like that. See, and let me tell you this.
When you get order and when you get structured, people
don't like that. When you stop taking bs, you become
the villain. That's with family and everything. In fact, man
see that you become the villain. But like I was saying,

(07:57):
Steven a he he he did this thing with Jess
with Cracker, and I didn't like it. Stephen Ay, he
don't know nothing about politics. Stephen Nation, stay out of politics.
Stephen Nation, stick the sports, Stephen Nation, stick doing what
he doing. He knows nothing about politics, he knows nothing
about you know, he's a Trump ass kiss is what
he is. And I don't. I don't fool with Stephen.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
They like that.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
You know, I don't get good byes from Stephen They
and you know, you know, I hope I hope he
do come on the show. We're gonna have a good
you know, good dialogue, good good talk, whatever you want
to call it. I mean, you know, he's I think
he's pretty dope. I think he's cool. I thought, you know,
I just don't. I just don't like doing I just
don't like a lot of things that he say. And

(08:41):
I sometimes I don't like his energy. But you know,
Stephen's he's interesting. He's interesting. I like when he on
first taking he's.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Doing this thing.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
But when he get over to the Stephen Nation Smith show,
you know, the cool the kool aid.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
The kool aid.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Gone, he gone, he gone, he gone, he gone. But
right here I want to talk about I want to
talk about Bishop Marvin Wine so late recently, recently, Bishop
Marvin Wines was trending because he told a lady.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
He was upset that she only gave twelve hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
And I think we have the clip for you, cat,
I mean, if you got it, I think it's on four.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
If you can't play it, ROBERTA.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
McCoy giving faith and standing unity with the vision of
perfecting church, of sowing this seed of one thousand dollars
plus two hundred and thirty five dollars and receiving the
blessings to come to all that participating.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Now that that's only twelve hundred dollars. Yes, y'all not
listening to what I'm saying. If you have a thousand
plus one thousand.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, I'm gonna work on the other.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Hundred, Well, that ain't what I asked you to do.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
So that's what that's what he said, and that's what
people took away. And let me tell you this, even
at first, I was a little I was a little
you know, curious about that I'm like, Bishop, come on, man,
this in today's time and and this financial climate, how
you're gonna tell people they can't get.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
You know, you can't tell you really, you can't tell
people what to give.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
If somebody wants to give you something, they're gonna do
from account, they're gonna do it just because of it,
just because they you know. So I wasn't fooling with
that at first until until I heard this.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I'm gonna do this a couple of ways.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Those that have.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
The thousand plus one that means you're coming with your
thousand that you're giving plus you've asked someone else to give.
Now you don't have to stop in a thousand, and
we're gonna deal. So in other words, if you say,
past the whinings, I'm coming with my thousand plus another

(11:07):
three thousand, then you'll say that you understand. And if
you didn't get plus one, but you maybe came with
two hundred and fifty dollars, you're gonna come say that
this is my thousand plus two hundred and fifty with me,
and we're gonna go all the way down. So I
need you in order for this to work. I need
you to come when you're called with the offering that.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
So that's what he said. And you know, it's about clarity.
It's about clarity. And I know people still gonna feel
how they want to feel about visit Wins and the
Profectic Church. You know, she was the following instructions, you know.
And in the church, you know, because people got mad

(11:55):
at Marmon South a few months ago in the church.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
In the church, in the church, that's how things are
normally done.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
When the church is raising money, the pastor says, hey,
if you're giving.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Five hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I've been I've been to multiple church services and the
pastor say, hey, hey, if you're giving five hundred dollars,
you come up now. If you're giving two hundred dollars,
you come up now. If you're giving a thousand dollars,
you come up now. And you know, maybe his maybe

(12:29):
his tone, his deliverance was off of just a little bit,
but I saw nothing wrong. See, what we tend to
do is society. What we tend to do is people
in general, we only take the clickbait, and we went
with the clickbait. We didn't take the time to sit
and listen to what he watched the full video what
he actually said when you sit when if you take

(12:51):
the time and go back and actually watch the hour
watch the hour long church service where he was raising
the money to build a new church for the or
the new profecting church that he's building in Detroit that
he's been building for twenty years and he just got
the permanent from the city a few months ago to
do it again a few years ago, to do it
again on a few months to do it again. If

(13:13):
you go watch that service and see what he's talking about,
and see, you know, and just watch, just don't take
that clickbait of him of what he said beforehand.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Just just don't take that little clickbait and run with it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
And as if I'm not mistaken, I think today they
since came out and did an interview with w x
y Z in Detroit and he actually apologized because those
were not his intent, his intent, That was not his
intent to do that. You know, he wasn't rebuking nobody.
He was just saying, follow directions, follow instructions, follow directions.

(13:52):
When you at your church, your pastor say follow directions,
follow instructions. You know, So I see, I saw not
the wrong. You know, once I had the full clip. Well,
like I said earlier, once I watched that little once
I watched that little click, that little that little thing,
you know, when I heard that little that little click bait,
I'm like, hold on.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
That, basic minders, what we got going on? We ain't
doing nothing, man, we ain't doing that.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Come on, man, I messed with business minders, a mess
with bish mine. So what I'm gonna do right here
is I'm gonna read today's letter.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Now.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Let me say this. Let me just say this. Let
me say this. I have not read this letter before
I saw I saw the I saw the email they
came in. It was forded to me. I saw the headline.
I didn't I saw the tag. I mean I saw

(14:48):
the subject. I didn't read the askual letter. If you
need advice on anything, I'm here to help you. If
you don't know what X Y. What's mplus equal ze
email me.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
At mess train.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
That's M E S S train t r A I
N I said R t r A I n at
woe raid dot com. That's m E S S t
r A I n at woe ray. This w o
a h r a E dot com email me today.

(15:31):
Whatever you got going on, I'm here to help.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm here.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm here to help you. I'm I'm here to help you.
Whatever you need, I'm here to help you. So today's
subject is Me and my best Friends Weekend Secret. Oh
this sounds good. Me and my best friends Weekend Secret.
Dear j I never thought i'd be writing to a
show like this, but baby, I need some guidance before

(15:56):
this whole things goes off tracks. I'm a thirty three
year old married woman, been with my husband eight years.
My best friend let's call her Tasha. It's also Mary.
And here's where the men starts. Our husbands work together
at the same warehouse, same ship, same carpool. They're like brothers.

(16:18):
Every other weekend when our men are pulling over time
me and Tasha pull up a huge lessons of wine.
But lately them few lessons turn into a bottle or
two and the conversation turn. We're wrong. One night it
got wold and we ended up doing some freaky stuff together.
It happened again and again. Now we can't even look

(16:38):
at each other without remembering. And we both still love
our husbands, but we also but we also want but
we also know what happened was in no accident. I
feel guilty when I see my man come home tired
from that warehouse, joking with her husband about the job,
not knowing what his wife and mine been doing. We

(17:00):
both agreed to stop, but it's hard when temptation and
tequila h.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Hit the same time.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
So now we're stuck asking should we come plan and
tell our husbands before somebody else find out? Or should
we keep our secret and pray God forgives us in
private signed drunk and dilemma. Wow, now listen, this right
here is some first class mess. These leaders that hopped

(17:29):
on the mistrain. And no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no no. Let me ask you this what
city are y'all located in? And uh what time do
y'all do this on the weekend? And when y'all husband
be working? Because you know, I'm just true, but look
that that's crazy. Now look somethings some things. You know,

(17:49):
I'm into line everyone, See, some lines are necessary.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
And right here, you you just need to shut it.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Ain't lying because they don't know, so you you ain't lying.
To keep your damn mouth shut. That's my advice. You know,
keep your damn mouth shut, because you know your husbands
that might be they might not be worried. They might
not be worried all the weekends. They might be hitting
hard hats together, you know. So yeah, keep keep keep keep,

(18:21):
keep your mouth shut. Don't don't don't go and tell
your husbands then, because because all it's gonna do is
it's gonna start a bunch of more messes.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
It's gonna start a bunch of mess with the husbands.
And that because your your wives.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Because what's what's what's end up gonna happen, And is
y'all go end up in a in a real in
a real bad Polish situation all for y'all gonna end
up sleeping together if if this was going on, because
I guarantee you, I guarante to you, I guarantee you
your husband have got something going on. That's that's that

(18:54):
that I'm sorry that that's that your husband have got
something going on. Because because you know, they a car
pulling together, and and and and and same shift and
same wid house and you know, some some some some
some in the milk ain't clean. That the milk is
a little buttery, it's a little bunny. You know, I

(19:14):
don't know, y'all. Look throw it off a little bit, y'all.
You know, y'all little you know, you know, but y'all
email us to email. You got to email. Let me
know what city y'all in, you know, let me know.
Let me know what city, y'all. Let me know what city, y'all. Wow,
that's the mess strain, y'all. Email me every email me.

(19:37):
If if you got something that you need me to
talk about, just just email me.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Just just email me. You are listening to the Jay

(20:03):
Walker Show.
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