The 2025 Dallas Cowboys Draft Class Reaction & Grades

Welcome back to "The Jersey Boyz Podcast" with all 3 of us back in action to break down the 2025 Dallas Cowboys draft class! Dave Sturchio, Bret Ernst and Keith Ernst are back to talk all things Cowboys. Are we happy with the results? Are we OK with the Cowboys drafting Best Player Available when we had NEEDS in other positions? We break down every round and give you some grades and some hype!! #DallasCowboys #Draft #NFLDraft

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Podcast with your host Dave start Show and the Urgboys.
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with New Jersey. These guys got bulls being Cowboys fans
in Jersey.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Anyways. Enjoy well, whatever.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
What's going on, everybody.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Welcome to another episode of the Jersey Boys Podcast right
here on Shop Sports Media's YouTube channel wherever you get
your podcast. Brett ERNs, Keith Urns, Dave st Show here
on a post draft episode. Coach Ern, Sorry, I totally
mispronounced you. It's a coaching thing. You're a coach, now, glue,
holy shit, Live on the air. Listen, the NFL draft

(00:49):
comes and goes. From everything that you're reading, anybody that
reads anything, everybody's saying that the Cowboys had a good draft.
We'll get into it, we'll break down all the picks
and uh yeah, roll from there. But first and foremost,
my apologies to Keith on a personal front. I just
want to apologize for all the back and forth on
the text messages because boyle boy, you would think it's

(01:10):
a it's a good day for a Cowboys fan when
his draft day and everybody's excited and ship. But Keith
said it right here on the show. He wanted defense.
He thinks that the Cowboys should have drafted for their
needs and it wasn't the case.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Per se. We'll drive, we'll dive into it.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
But first and foremost, sorry, Keith didn't mean to ruffle
any feathers.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
That's all right. I would apologize if I did something wrong,
but I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Now did I see that coming? And of course Brett
Ernst when the draft was happening Thursday Friday ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I'm an objective observer.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm sure. I'm sure this one's gonna come up objective.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm just gonna say, and I'm not being biased here.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
You you know, my brother is right, and I think
that I he look he's right, and I'm gonna I
think I'm gonna mediate and and and be very fair here.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I've given it a lot of thought.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Okay, when when we're ready to interject, I'm going to interject.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
But you're both right in a way, and.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'll explain that too, because but my brother's point, which
I don't know if he said on the last podcast,
is we're going to have to win through defense.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Okay, that's the only way.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Dak has had every weapon possible and it hasn't worked.
So now there's a difference between drafting good players and
then drafting.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
On what we needed. And I'll get to that, So
go ahead, start.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
So I'd like to tell you something I know. I
know I mentioned Campbell. John Campbell. That's kind of the
guy I want that went to the Eagles. Fuck that guy. No, no, no,
I don't mean it like that. I don't mean it
like that. He's a superb player, he's I love as
a player. No, it's not even that he grew up

(03:03):
a diehard Eagles fan hating the Dallas Cowboys at twenty
minutes from the stadium. I didn't want that. I don't
want that asshole on the time.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
All right, Well, then that's that's that's a valid that's
a valid strategic point. And listen, you know, not for nothing.
And I know you guys have heard this, or maybe
you don't listen to it as much as like I'm
like so knee deep in a lot of Brian Schottenneimer's
press conferences and on who he wants on his team,
and he wants guys that a love the game, of football, don't.

(03:31):
They don't bullshit, They're not They're they're high character guys.
Their families are into football, you know, just like a pedigree.
He wants these guys to be a pedigree. And a
lot of these guys grew up Cowboys fans as they
went through the draft process, and I know it's not like, oh,
he's a Cowboys fan, we should definitely draft them, right Like,
obviously that's not a thing, but it does play a
nice little role in trying to get to know one

(03:52):
of your players. So look, the Cowboys went on the
clock at the twelfth pick, and there was already a
couple guys got on that I kind of wanted, you know,
Ted mcmill and the receiver went to Carolina a little early,
picked nine I think it was. But there was an
opportunity to either a land of Matthew Golden or another
receiver of note B. Try to maybe go a little

(04:14):
crazy and go Amari and Hampton another running back to
obviously running back is a need as well, or they
could have went defense, which there was a plethora of
a lot of defensive good players there. The Cowboys decided
at twelve to draft Tyler Booker, out of Alabama guard right,
he was ranked upon everything that I've seen, he was

(04:36):
ranked as the top guard in the draft.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
He's a bully. As soon as he went on to
the MICHAEH.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Parsons podcast thing, but they were doing a live stream,
he dropped a couple of words on there that really
got the Cowboys fans very excited about the guy. And
you know, I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said, anybody who
lines up like his favorite part about playing football is
taking the love of the g out of his opponent's eyes.
So basically, they're all jacked up to play football until

(05:05):
they line up against Tyler Booker, and Tyler Booker is
going to strip that from you.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So a stirch.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, two years ago or three years ago, whenever we
got him, didn't Mozzie Smith say something similar?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I really hope not.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
I'm pretty sure he did. Oh you know what, running
into a wall like I love running into like something
where you got all you got all a little starch.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, well, listen, I think the I think not just
little starch here. I think Cowboys Nation as a whole
was very excited about the pick.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
After the pickers made this is.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
Mozzie Smith when there was questions about him. There aren't
a lot of questions exactly Tyler. I agree they proven player.
We got a lot of Tyler's on the.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Tyler three starters.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yes, we might have to have a nickname.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Is really quick though, I go, uh, the player, which
are we are? We discussed in the text, the player,
the position that he plays, and how well he plays
the position. I give that a A plus. Now as far
as the draft pick and choice and where, I give
that a C plus because we could have easily created back.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
This is this is this is.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Where I come into media, and this is where I'm saying,
if we're looking at the talent that we drafted, okay,
because there's two ways to look at the draft. If
we're looking at the talent we drafted and the players
we got, and also depending if Shababel or Revel however
you say his name is healthy enough, we drafted three
guys that come in right away and start. If you're

(06:44):
looking at the draft that way, we do really well.
But there's the other way that we have to look
at it. As if we drafted on need and on need,
we you know it's going to load up on offense.
We definitely need the wide receiver, we definitely needed the
running back. But I think with this threat, with this

(07:04):
first pick, we're looking at the future here because the
O line is the future of whoever comes in to
play quarterback later on. And you know, you couldn't have
gotten a better guard.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, but you're you're gonna mediate what I said, a linebacker.
And that's all what I'm saying. That's not what I said, though,
What do you mean I said? I What I'm saying
is I love the I love the pick. What I'm
trying to say is where we got him at twelve,
We could have traded back and got him.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So yeah, there.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
So there's been some heavy discussion about There's been heavy
discussion and most of the analysts have come back and said,
you could have got this guy in the eighteen range
maybe right like you could have got you could have
stocked Poud, you could have got back into the fourth round,
you could have you could have done a couple of
things here, but they didn't.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
It seems to me, based off everything I've said read heard,
that the Cowboys were going to stick to their board regardless.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Right.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
So here's the thing. If you go back. If you
just go back just a couple of years ago, there
was a guy that fell to us at seventeen. We
didn't need a receiver when Cede Lamb was available, but
Ceede Lamb was available, and they're like, you know what,
he's the best player on our board right now, We're
gonna bring this guy on. And of course when you
get the ceed Lamb, you're like, oh shit, a new toy,

(08:23):
Dak Prescott, this is gonna be great. I can't wait,
right And it hasn't obviously, you know, translated to any
team success. But what I will say is my theory
on the draft is always the draft the best player available,
no matter what, unless you're the number one overall pick,
and you realize the reason why we're the number one
overall pick is because of my team stinks. My quarterback stinks.
I need a quarterback a lah. The Titans, right, their

(08:45):
quarterback was horrendous last year, and they went cam Ward,
the most NFL ready quarterback.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
That's what you do, that's what you feel. There's your
quarterback for the next five ten years. Right.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
For what the Cowboys did, no matter where they were picking,
I just wanted them to address whatever was the best
thing for me. My opinion last week was get me
a receiver for Deck, give me a running back for Deck,
give me offense. Keith's was, no, we need defense right now,
we need a linebacker. We haven't stopped the run since
fucking Dave was born, right, It's been a long time
since they were able to stop the run. So in

(09:15):
that regard, Keith, I agree that maybe a linebacker or
a defensive player would would be the play for the
need But you had a better player on their board,
which was Tyler Booker, and that's why they pulled trigger.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Okay, I don't where the critique on this draft from
some fans is what we didn't do. Like, if we're
looking at what we did, we got some great players.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Sure, it's more of what we didn't do.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
And that becomes the question of like I said, we've
loaded up our offense, we've had gears where we had
great receivers, we had you know, and it just we
didn't move the needle. So if we were to draft
on need because that's two ways to go. And obviously
we were the best players on the board because our

(10:03):
second pick.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
On their board. And now I'll preface it on the
Cowboys board. Right, there's a million there's a million rankings all.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Over the place.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
But the Cowboys sat there and spend hours and hours
and days and days on putting it together a ranking system,
and they just so happened to say, Hey, Tyler Booker's
number one on our board, and he's right there.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
At twelve, let's go grab him. That's what they did.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's a solid pick. It's typical Jones.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
You know, we get an offensive lineman in the first round.
And the one thing Jerry Jones knows and we've seen
and has proven is his drafting of offensive lineman. And
you know, it's a solid pick. It's a solid pick.
It's not a romantic pick.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
It's it's and again you know, and again we we
we we right. Because they had their all Pro Hall
of Fame right guard retire. And while I understand he
was hurt last year a lot, or at least the
back end of the year, and he was just you know,
you figured it was kind of the end of the road.
We started to see the urgence of a bully like
Brock k Hoffman. So everybody's like, oh, well, Brock could

(11:03):
be the next guy, right Brock Brock Hoffman could be
the guy, and I was. I'm a shoes brock Kaffman fan, right.
I love the way he plays. He's gritty, he's nasty,
he'll fight you. I love all that shit. But like
I said, and Cooper B B two like and I
was a steel of a pick last year, he's gonna
be good. He's gonna develop, he's gonna get better. But
what I'm saying is if if they thought, like we

(11:24):
got brock Kaufman, right, but then they're like, oh wait,
but we can have the best guard in the nation
right now, come in and play day one.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
It's not even a foregun conclusion. Of course, when you
draft somebody in the first round, they're supposed to start
right away. That's just the way it is, unless it's
a project quarterback or some shit. But for a guard,
you would assume that he's gonna go right in there
and play and knock around guys. But there's gonna be competition,
which is great. Competition creates good like greatness.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, I think what Keith.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Said, and we're all in agreement, is that we could
have we could have made some moves and he still
would have been available.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Maybe they just didn't want to risk it.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Right and maybe no exactly that could be a too Yeah, bro,
maybe nobody gave him anything, you know, I'm assuming Well
apparently there was.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
There was there was a there was a rumor about
a Texans trade, but it just never they never pulled
trigger on it.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
So with with Jerry Jones, and I just went back
and looked just to double check, and we already knew
this dude. He maybe he's so good at playing offensive
line because that's what he played, not playing I'm sorry,
picking offensive lineman is because that's what he played. I
mean in Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
He doesn't know, he doesn't know a position better.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
And you know what, I didn't know his son, Stephen
Jones actually started.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
He played college football Steven Jones did.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah, I'll tell you right now, he's another offensive.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Right now, is another offensive lineman because he's built like
a fucking hostel a linebacker. Maybe hold on, Well, be
that as amazed you as you well he went to Arkansas. Well,
it's a lineage thing. That's why that's why you get feeling,
that's why you draft Felix Jones, That's why you get
all these Arkansas guys that are are not j Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
He uh yeah, he graduated in nineteen eighty eight, right
before h Jerry Jones got the Cowboys four year letterman
for the Razorbacks, playing linebacker and special team.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
So you're telling me, so you're telling me that he
was that's amazing. So you're telling me that he was
available to draft and Jared and Jerry didn't draft his son.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I just you know what I do you imagine that,
Imagine that he realizes he's not good so he didn't
want to draft him. Yeah, it happens.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
But but the thing I like about that is I
don't think a lot of people, including myself, realized because
you know, we make Oh they don't know they're businessmen,
like at least they did play the fucking.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Game, right, they're not.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
They're not completely clueless, Like, yeah, exactly, I know Brett
Brett Harris on that he wants a football guy. We
do have football guys, but I think that their mentality
is just a little skewed as far as like talent evaluation.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
That's a great uh research question. What's your owner actually
played college football?

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Any owners of the NFL?

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, have you remissed to think that most of these
guys are oil digging wheel, you know, like guys that
are might be maybe I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
We'll do some research after that.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
But I loved the second pick. Yeah, so this is
what I don't know every college player. What I what
I do is I see and then we go back
and look draft and this kid is stuck. He's a
stuff bro.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
So here all right, So again, a lot of.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
People's boards and this kid, uh, especially with Micah startin.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
You could see a lot of clean up sacks with
this kid because you know, again both Tyler and I
don't know how to last.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
They could come in just.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Call him easy.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
So so all right, So so the the question about
this one was we took an offensive guard in the
first round. So everybody and their mother was like, okay, well,
at least when the second round comes around, they'll definitely
address the wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
They'll definitely address.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
The running back, and then you know, we'll move on
from there. They flipped it to Keith's side of the ball, and.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
They want to go some defense. Now this guy coming
in here. Now again, when we.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Draft Tyler Booker, there was already fifteen fifteen or maybe
thirteen offensive lineman on the roster. When we drafted Tyler Booker,
defensive end, edge rusher. Got a lot of those guys too, right,
We do have a lot of those guys. Our one
big free agency move was to bring back Dante Fowler junior.
You got Sam Williams coming back. You got Marshaw Neelan
in year two. You got a lot of got a

(15:34):
lot of stock in that defensive line. Now the defensive edge. Again,
these are the things you gotta build on because what
what did we just witness in the Super Bowl? We
watched Patrick Mahomes get bullied by the defensive front. Right,
So you can't never have too many guys. They go
out and get Donovan. He's a raku. I'll try that once.
That's about it, Donovan easy as the defensive end. Keith,

(15:56):
your thoughts on the pick, the player, the position, everything
that comes with this.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Pick, Well, I meant based on highlights. I didn't know
who he was before. I'm not going to bullshit anyone.
There's only I do watch college football, and I watch
a lot of college football, but I usually watch, you know,
certain teams, and that's why I preached on camera. Cam Ward,
the other linebacker from Notre Dame I kind of liked,
and I can't remember his name right now anyways. Regardless,

(16:24):
so what I saw on highlights, hey, it looks great,
I meant. But once again, what I was trying to
say is, and you just brought it up as well,
is how many edge rushers? You know? I mean, I
just want to do a dress our weaknesses, you know,
And you're right, you can't have too many too. But
that was my whole thing the first two picks. Why

(16:45):
I had a big beef with it is you know,
brock Hoffman did a pretty good job last year filling in,
and we have edge rushers so pretty much, you know,
what do we you know?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I what I want.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
I want players. I want to zoom in on the
play where we struggled the most, you know, improve that.
And that's why I wasn't that crazy about that pick either,
even though I like it, and I once again, I'm
not bashing the player, Like when I looked at his
highlights and when I saw his combine and all that,
I'm like, damn, this dude's a baller, A plus for sure.

(17:17):
I'm just saying for specific need of our team, that's all.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
And and to just double down your point. I look
at this roster and how many times did we like
last year In specific, I think I was in my
dad's pool when this was summer where we're like, oh wait,
Sam Williams just went down.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
We're like what you know?

Speaker 4 (17:37):
And then like Marshawnnelan and like all this and like
all of a sudden, we're like, oh now we're completely
thin at the defensive enk was we had lost fallor right.
So now the Jerry Jones man set might be like,
you know what, fuck this, We're not putting ourselves in
this position again, you know what I mean? And they're
gonna get as many guys that can pursue the quarterback
as new mainly possible.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
And on their board this guy was there was the guy.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
And honestly, Bro, you go back to the early nineties
defense and men, we had a nice rotation there, I know,
Jimmy jes Jimmy, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
We still didn't address the interior problem.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
And we did, we did, we did, we did.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
Uh can help stop the run? You know they I
was again going back and watching other people analyze them.
You know, he can fill those gaps and be gaps
if they need him.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
To.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
But you know, look, if we get my guy shown healthy,
we get Micah and if this kid is what they think.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
He is because they didn't pass, it's past happy league.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
That's just where we're at and.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
From Chicago, which I know a lot of Bears fans
were high on in free agency to help stop the run.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
But we didn't really address that interior.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
But I know what defense tackle or noseguard was higher
on the board who was available.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Well, we'll get it.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, we'll get into that because they did address the
defensive tackle twice at the back end of the draft,
and we'll just get into that. But the third overall
pick that they had was pick seventy six. Now, this guy, apparently,
according to all people, all mocks, all this, all that,
had he not got injured in August September of last year,
the dude's a first rounder.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Right.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
So we got ourselves a cornerback in the third round
that should have been a first round pick. And when
you're looking at this team right now, the biggest question
marks right now are surrounding Trayvon Diggs. We don't know
if he's going to be healthy ready to go over
at all. Apparently his rehab just stinks.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
I don't know his will to get back. You know,
over Shawan, you could see that he's putting in work
every goddamn day. Trayvon Diggs, I don't know, right, and
again it's not a testament to the player.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I don't know the guy. All I know is he
likes to avoid tackles.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
But as far as this kid, you know again, Chavon
Reveel junior, little undersized, doesn't really like contact from every
thing that I've seen, so it's almost like another Trayvon
dig situation. He is coming off the knee injury. But
the dude is a hawk and he's lanky. He's like,
he's got height, he can he's a very sticky corner.

(20:10):
He sticks to his guy the entire time. And it's
it was an absolute need because right now once you,
like you said, Brett, this guy could be a day
one starter because of the fact that we might not
have Trayvon Diggs.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Well, apparently our doctors cleared him and said, yo, his
kid could be ready to go. Yeah, it's not as
it's not as severe as saying what Overshew, what happened
to Overshell?

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Well, even if it was severe, he's just longer in
the process. He's towards a cl and in September, so
that's a nine month recovery. Do the math, and you're
good bye June July, when when Campbero's around all season.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, no, I know.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I'm just that's the only thing I'm worried about it.
Of course, of course, drafting injured players and we get
all high on them and then they become maybe a
Jalon Smith.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Oh god, don't you put that evil on me, Ricky
Butt't do it.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
It's tough.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
I know, I get it. Trust I get that part.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
But it was definitely a need, as you address, and
he was also a very highly touted ranked player despite
the injury. So I think that pick is a great
pick for the Cowboys at that point in the draft.
Now you're talking about third round and you're talking about
a first round graded talent, so you can't really go
wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
He just got a you know, knock on wood that
he's okay.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
So now look, I thought the Cowboys are going to
be very aggressive get back into the fourth round because
they had a bunch of fifth round picks. So I
was like, all right, they're gonna stockpile, a bunch of fifths,
give it to somebody, get back into the fourth. They
didn't see it that way. There was a run on
running backs. It felt to me as soon as the
run on running backs started that no matter where the
Cowboys pick next, that had to be the pick.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
And it was.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
And it comes in the form of Jaden Blue out
of Texas. Jaden Blue.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
You've watched the tape. You've seen him run. He runs
a four two forty four to three on a bad day. Yeah,
well four three out of Yeah, he's run a four
to two before. So he has this with Brett has
harped on for years that you need a running with
breakaway speed. This guy has it, and now you pair
him with your Miles Sanders or Dravante Williams or I

(22:09):
still think the Deuce Vaughan thing is probably a rap
at this point, just because of this pick and the
pick later on. But you got yourself some serviceable running backs.
I'm not saying we have Saquon Barkley. I'm saying we
have some running backs who would run the ball. And
if you're building this offensive line the way they are,
you know, anybody with that kind of push up front,
Keith is going to be a success.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Well yeah, I mean, and I think I brought this up.
He's two hundred pounds, Like, that's two hundred pounds running
a four to two, four to three man. That's pretty powerful. Yeah,
so yeah, I mean, you know, I like that. And
I didn't know him before the draft. Another one, but
once again, you know, watching highlights and seeing those things, Yeah,

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he looks great, you know. I mean, we'll see how
that translates.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
And they're saying that his route running is very good too,
which means, yeah, it could be. It could be a
Tony Pollard two point zero situation.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
You know what that I noticed too watching the highlights.
There were a lot of past place that he was
involved in, which is cool.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
So ye were running back by commission. The other he
picked up to uh.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Film off.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Good reds, good red zone guy, which we were lacking.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
It was that both those pickups. I would have liked.
Skier whatever his name is.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, yeah, I know, he goes to the enemy, he
goes he's staying home in Jersey.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Right now, Star, I'm calling it right now. He rushes
for over one hundred yards against us. That is such
a doubting his rookie year, next year, next season, this season,
coming up a game against the Dallas Cowboys. If it's
not both, at least one, this guy's gonna kills all right.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, listen, it's.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
Happened Dante Freeman. I mean, all these they have their
come out.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Aaron Jes, Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones got a second contract
after he was done with us.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
So my point is, like, you never hear of a
running back or you know they're drafted, their first big
game always comes against him.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
They love the playoffs. But hey, listen, good thing for
us in the fifth round as well.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Right after the Jaden Blue pick three picks later, they
finally said, you know what, who are we going to
draft here?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Let's ask Keith Ernst Keith, what position do you want
to draft here in the fifth round.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
We'll give you this selection. What would you like? What position?

Speaker 4 (24:34):
And of course they draft Shamar James, a Gator out
of Florida, and his his m right now is that
he is a very very ferocious downhill runner, got good
speed side to side. He just you know, there's there's
a couple of things he needs to brush up on.
But I'm glad at this point finally, and if you

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look at all the grades that they gave out for
this kid, he was again he was touted to be
a third fourth round talent and you get him in
the late fifth. So I think it's a steal in
that regard. I saw some tape. I watched some tape
on him, and I think that he could be one
of those guys that until overshown is ready, because they
compared him same thing, same kind of size and strength,

(25:17):
not built like a prototypical like earl Acker or something
like that. He's more the overshawn, you know what I mean,
Like he's that guy. He's not vander Esch, He's an
overshon size. I think that that's a it's a banger
pick in the fifth round. You had to address it eventually,
and they tried, and they tried in the free agency.
And I know a lot of these guys. I know
Keithan When I said, hey, man, we got the kid
from Tennessee, the gay He's ranked past the top one

(25:38):
hundred and run support.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
So I was like, oh, all right, well that sucks.
Kenneth Murray, jais I.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Was gonna say about James Is so sec is something
I do watch the Gators and yeah, I mean I
noticed him. But my whole thing with him is what
I've noticed is like on stunts, he's great, go shoot in.
He's not a froid, But on certain running plays, I
think he thinks too much, and he and and and

(26:05):
a lot of blocks he's getting blocked. He's waiting for
the block to come to him because he the football instinct.
Maybe he's not taking it, or maybe he doesn't have it,
or maybe it hasn't really you know, being coached right away.
Kind his he's kind of flat footed. Blocker comes hits
and he gets around and gets to tackle, but it's
still six seven yards downfield. But he shoots gaps like

(26:27):
I saw some there were stunts where I'm like, okay, boom,
he's getting in there. He's he's not afraid. It's not
like he's scared. He's just thinking. I think he's overthinking.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
So you know what I'm saying, Yes, Keith. So then
when you get out to ox Nerd and you're coaching
the linebackers, you know, to make sure that he plays
coach Coach Coach.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Got who got abused on social media when I said
Taco Charlton's feet were too slow and drafted him. I
don't know, everybody came after me on this page.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I hated.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I hated.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah, I know you did.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Welcome the big deeds.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Man.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Brett Thoughts finally addressed a linebacker. You know you're you're
a linebacker, safety, you kind of guy yourself.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
It depends on the type of defense we're going to
be running this year.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
Most teams, like I said, you want a guy that
that can fly, that can stunt, that could get under
the curl. But in our division, I mean we got
some serious you know, we got sa Kwon Barkley, we
got to deal with We we have some and now
the Giants with Skeeter Boom, you know we have to

(27:37):
we we have to address we need to run, stuffer
a good detackle because you know that's been our weakness man.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
And again, it just depends on the style of defense
that that that we're going to be running this year.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Defense.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Why am I Why am I drawing a blank? Who's
the who the Redskins, who's their running back?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Well, they've always had Brian Robinson, Austin Eckler.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
It was Eckler and then Robinson Robinson's got thick ye Atlanta,
Brian Robinson ju the guy who got shot came back played. Yeah. No,
he had a great year last year.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Good.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
He was on my fantasy team. I know all about
as Brett's like nerds. But anyway, so the sixth round
is where again, sixth and seventh round picks, are they
going to make the team? I don't know. Some some dudes,
some don't.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
But the sixth round was where I got a little like, again,
that's hard to judge a sixth round pick, but when
you double dip again and you bring in a Johnny
Cornelie is another offensive tackle or guard or whatever, I'm
just like, all right, guys, like we still haven't even
sniffed a wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
What the fuck is going on at this point? You know, like,
now is it? Are we getting trolled?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
They just abandoned it.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Clearly we didn't draft one. We had nine picks.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Look that we may have, you know, they may have
some faith in some of the guys from last year,
well that that are coming around.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's why that's why we didn't have a fourth round pick.
Because of that Johnathan Mingo, let me tell you he's
something special.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
That boy you know, that's a good point. And I
bring that up too, Bro. I meant everyone has just
given up on the receivers the Cowboys have right now
except ceed Lamb, and I'm I kind of stand up
for him, Tolbert Brooks. Let's give him even the one
that Brett always likes, the big.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Dude, Ryan Bryan Flornoy.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
We've got these guys, and you know what, I'm going
to the Dallas I want to read this to you
guys real quick right now. I'm going to the Dallas
Cowboys website. Okay, okay, And here's my thing. I'm just
thinking just as a as a as a player, just
as a man. Okay, all right, kissed me off opening
the headline, Here is bro, theys it down.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
They had to have. Why do they just completely ship
on all the receivers we have?

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, Cowboys avoid receivers and all shitty receivers on the
roster outside of CD Lamp. But listen, it's it's not
that we talked to an NFL receiver. Last year right
before the season, we talked to Jesse Holly, our honorary
fourth Jersey boy. Right, he went on here and he said,
Jalen Tolbert now or never, Buddy now or never, And

(30:17):
it was for a little while it was like he
was lost again. Nobody heard of it. But then all
of a sudden, towards the back end of the year,
Colbert starts to flash a little bit. He's starting to
jail with Dak. Then Dak goes down. Now you've got
to jail with a whole new system, a whole new
you know, Cooper Rush and all that shit like that
is why a lot of these guys didn't put up
any kind of numbers where you're just like, oh, let's

(30:39):
wait and see the cowboy fan for me right now
is looking for that new toy that name value. They're
not looking at these guys from the surface. They're not
looking at these guys production for what it's worth. Again,
you can't look at a Ryan Florinoy or a Jalen
Brooks and say he's trash.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
He stinks it's over, It hasn't had enough.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
And if they have evaluations on these guys, including Jonathan Mingo,
which again we got for a fourth round pick, was
that the right move to make at the time. Probably
not right as far as value is concerned, But if
they see something in the kid, then maybe there is
something there, right, instead of jumping down everybody's throats about
the value of them, and because they're not Cooper Cup
or somebody else like you're just like, they don't give

(31:20):
a shit.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
They're not trying to help dac out.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
We've tried helping dac out plenty of times, right, So
you guys have said it, but I'm the one. I'm
the dak apologies of this podcast, you know what I mean.
Like you guys have said, look, we loaded this guy
up with talent and he still couldn't get it done.
Now I'm out here saying, you know what, fuck it.
If they think he's Superman, put his cap on, let's go.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
So I found it. If you go to the website
on the desktop, they done it.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
They dug it up.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
It said, no, it's here. It's a big headline Batman
and dot dot dot question one Jesus, that's what it says. Well,
I mean, if if I'm one of these receivers there,
like what the fuck dude, Well, listen Eddie Lamb into
his Batman. But with the Cowboys not using the NFL
Draft to add on, their attention shifts back to trying

(32:06):
to do so via trade or they're shitty players.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
They already had what Patrick Walker, No, but listen again,
I agree with you there. And in the sixth round
they could have gotten a couple of guys that are
worthy of just either throwing a dart at the at
the wide receiver chart right and saying, all right, this
guy could be something. Who knows they did They didn't
do that. They went offensive line again. Amids the draft,
apparently there's a report came out from Todd Archer of

(32:31):
ESPN saying that the Dallas Cowboys were in heavy trade
discussions with an AFC North receiver. To me, that's George
Pickens one thousand percent. Keith, you said it weeks ago
that it's a possibility. I said, no, dice. It is
because I said no dice because they just weren't gonna
be in that market. I didn't think they were gonna
because then again, if you do do this, which again,

(32:52):
if they did it, and they pull this off and
they get him for like a fourth or fifth, there's
some bullshit like that where we're like, holy shit, what right?
And we get that that's all well and good, but
guess what comes next? His second fucking contract, right so,
and Jerry Jones is the type of guy that you know,
we all know that he just drags his fucking feet
and waits and waits and waits until the value is
way too high and.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Then we pay him.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Anyway, it's all waiting game with Jerry Jones right now.
The heaviest rumor right now is bringing back Amari Cooper,
and there's something to that. There's something to that.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I think.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
I think there's I think there's noise behind this. When
there's smoke, there's fire. I think there's going to be
something over the next couple of days where we add
a receiver via trade or a free agent.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Either way. I think it has to happen because after the.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Draft we signed two undrafted free agents that again, some
people are like that guy could be your number two. Okay,
if here's your number two, then you better fucking give
another chance to Jalen Tolbert and Jalen Brooks and Ryan Florinoid.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
Hold on, bro, you will forget it's the j posse
get it right. Sorry, you got Jalen Tolbert, you got
Jalen Brooks, and you got Jalen Cropper.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Cropper, all right, it's another one.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
You don't even that.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
Again, young kids. And I like Florinoid too. Man, let's
give him a shot. It's actually you'd be surprised.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
And we can't forgetting.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Little Turp. Yeah, you know what the problem is that big.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Body, second possession receiver that you need the X.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
You need the X receiver, you need the number of
the actual guy that flanks outside and and I think.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
Florainoid could could fill that role. Maybe he's a dude
and he's got great hands. What was the other guy
that played tight end that hurt Stevens or Stevenson.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
John Stevens the third one.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
But he's a tight end. So yeah, he should be back,
I think, I mean from everything that I gather, I
don't think they ever cut him or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
So he'll be back. But look right now, yeah, the
article has some validity to it because the name value
isn't there.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's all. That's all that is.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
It's like everybody knows who Cede Lamb is, yeah, because
he's the top three wide out in the game.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
But now you're like, oh, it's just Robin because we
have a bunch of unknowns. They're knowans to us because
we know who they are, but they're not knowns to
the national beat writers, you know what I mean, Like
they can't go out there like maybe Jalen Tolbert's the guy.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Like we know enough about Jayalen Tolbert to know that
he's probably a solid three. It's not a two right now,
right I say.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
I could say he's a two. I think he's a two.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Well, if he's a two, then then then our problems
are solved. Then you don't have to worry about they
get another two receiver.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Problems are not solved, and you know we can't draft
for this. This wasn't a quarterback heavy draft.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
But you know, again, everything's on the shoulders at well
towards the back end of that draft. Towards the back
end of that draft, I was starting to get a
little uh.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Once we get into the fifth round and Shador is
still hanging around, I was like, oh, Jerry, don't do it,
but don't do it, like I just felt it. We
don't need no, no, we have enough over here.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
But look after that seventh round, they get Jay Oh,
a defensive tackle to use Cla, a big ass run stopper, stuffer.
You know it has characteristics and traits of a you know,
a guy that can plug a hole.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
You know that that that's what you need, right.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Your defensive tackles are supposed to just shed guys, you know,
just try to eat up some blocks so you can
let Micah and the rest of the ninety seven fucking
edge rushers that we have on this roster to do
work and possibly and maybe they do that. Then they
double dipped and got Phil Maffa, the running back out
of Clemson a little bit more of a banger.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
That kid man, that kid like.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
That kid is a good I think could be a
good red zone type running back, which is again what
we need, just somebody to pounded in.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
I tried to give the benefit of a doubt to
Deuce on Twitter. I projected my April depth chart. As
far as the running backs are concerned, I think it's
going to be headed by Javante. I think that Jaden
Blue has a chance to be the two I do.
And I think that Miles Sanders is on the chopping block.
I think he gets cut. And I think that Deuce
Vaughan makes the team. But what they're saying is because

(36:59):
you have a Jaden Blue a little Burner. I know
he's a bigger guy than Duce Font because everybody's a
bigger guy than Deuce Fan, but like you know, it
might be the end of the road for a project
like him because he just hasn't got.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
A going enough enough fucking burn.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Well, how much burn you want to give him? You
know what I mean? Like how much? How much more
you got to go to realize.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
How much more he didn't get any Well, there's a
reason for that.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
No, don't you think there's a reason for that.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
You're telling me this guy can't get reps because he's
got recodoubtele in front of him.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Like that was that?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
To me?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
That's a that's a red flag if we're talking.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
You know, I understand now that's a valid point. But
you know, you look at it once again, you bring
up Darren Sproles, right.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I look at Jayden Bluemore like a Darren Sprals, you
know what I mean? But no, no, but but you don't.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Because Darren Sproles is the same height as du Von'
you're talking about how big he is, and they came
from the same school, and Darren Sproles his first couple
of years couldn't see the field literill he got around
the right coach that started literally right until he got around,
until he got around the right coach that knew how
to fucking use him him. I don't think he's being

(38:02):
used properly.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
And again could be.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Right, yeah, and again put him on my roster. I
got him on the roster for Schottenheimer. Go first, go
let's see, let's see if Shottenheimer can do it.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Let's see exactly.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
So, I mean, I don't know, but I got I
got flamed on Twitter because of that. They're like, no,
he's dudes, is gone. We're done, We're done, We're done
with this bullshit.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
And I'm like, I just now, is are we going
to carry four running backs?

Speaker 5 (38:23):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
He got back on.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Developmental then if we're going to keep him. But he
you know, he could be a good specialty utility player,
you know. I think we got to get him involved
a little. That kid, That kid can I mean, kid
can move that That one game he played, I mean
he was starting to heat up. What book game was that,
Keith when when he was starting to he was, Uh,

(38:49):
I don't forgot who we played.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
It might have been the Washington one at the end,
because I mean, you know, he was just I'm the
blame for this, guys. Let's just let's you know, let's
address the elephant in the room. Yeah, I was waiting
for a mom joke by Brett.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, hanging around the rim I have you guys.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Probably won't even been talking about him if I didn't
make such a big deal about him. And then the
big draft when his dad called it's, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
One of the greatest stories.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
I was very, very very high on him. And I
am being stubborn here because when I saw him in
college going against big fucking schools, not shitty schools. I'm
talking about Georgia, the national champs, and the way he
was running against that defense with a subpar offensive line,
I just thought that would translate in the NFL. And

(39:38):
I just don't think he's been given the opportunity to
really show. Well, bro, give him fifteen perries a game
and let's see what happens.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Let's just see what happened.

Speaker 6 (39:48):
Well, people don't remember too and I'm not comparing him
to Bury Sanders at all, but Barry Sanders would get
he would get a negative two year run. Amazing, And
then you know, people forget that he would and then
once he hit he boned, he would just take off.
They're built kind of the same barrier without a big,

(40:11):
big run back, I mean, lower center of gravity. Arguably
the best pure runner the league had ever seen. But
you know, it took a while for him to get going.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I remember what one.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Game he had like negative twelve yards in the first
half and ended up.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Going for one hundred and thirty something.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, and you know that.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
And also they're in a different style of offense.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
They were in a run and shoot type offense in
the beginning, and then they had a variation of that,
which it depends on what we're running if this is
going to be you know, feasible, because you don't you're
not seeing.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Eye formations anymore. You know, you're not seeing the fullbacks
almost obsolete.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
We're not even talking about the fact that we have
Hunter Lepke on our roster still. So we have our
so we we didn't want to forget about We didn't
want scatter ball. We got Scotabou at home. So and
that's another guy you want to talk about not getting burned.
You know, he's used as a primary fallback when that
dude was an absolute beast of a running back at
San Diego State or some shit wherever the fuck he can.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
He's a Bison, That's all I know.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
But look overall, the Cowboys drafted their best player on
their board.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Every round.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
There was one trade up to get I believe Shamar James,
which is their linebacker. They talked in the in the
hidden you know, the phone call stuff talked to Jaden
Blue said, we almost traded it up for you because
we really really wanted you, but you just wound up
being there. So again, I'm just like, Okay, if you
really wanted this guy, then you should have pulled trigger

(41:43):
and traded for him or traded up to get him.
He's like like, oh, we want him so bad and
then like he got picked by somebody else, Like, no,
do you.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Think, Starch, do you think that if we had a
round four pick we would have picked a running back?

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I do, I do.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
And do you think it would have been him or
do you think it would have been Gottaboo?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
I don't know, because we have like I said, you
want a big white running back, we got one of those.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I don't know if we needed I think we would
have went receiver.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
That's possible too, but we did. We did, We did
go to receiver.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
What's his name, Matthew Golden drafted?

Speaker 3 (42:22):
He was drafted by the Packers.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Yeah, first or second? First round?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
First? No, first round, he went.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
To the Packers. Who might that McMillan kid.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
McMillan went ninth overall.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Yeah, he went ninth, and we had a chance for
I believe the Luther Burden kid and that he was
drafted like two spots before us. I think there could
have been a couple audibles called by the cowboys in
the war room, like all right, we're gonna get Luther
Burden here, and then he was drafted two players prior
to and he's like, nah, funk, all right, who's next?

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Who's next? Chevon Revel? You know what I mean? Like,
I don't know, you can't you're gonna get the mine?

Speaker 5 (43:00):
No, I was gonna say, how they look at that
could be? You know, once there's certain receivers that they
would have drafted are gone. Now all the rest that
tier that's left they could get after the drafts in
which they have, they've already picked up a couple of
receipts and That's what a lot of people may not
realize the draft. The draft was not always seven rounds.

(43:21):
I mean it was like eighteen rounds at one time.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
So don't you.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Have undrafted free agents like a Drew Pearson, who was
arguably the greatest Dallas Cowboy receiver of all time, who
was undrafted in a sixteen seventeen round draft. So there
are players. Miles Austin is another one we could talk about.
I mean we could, so you know, we could, we
might be all right, who knows who knows who they
could pull in?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
We don't.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
You just don't know if you if you're really calling
it how you see it, Maybe the third greatest Dallas
Cowboy quarterback ever was undrafted, you know what I mean.
So it's like, and I'm talking about Romo behind behind
stallback and Ekman, and.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
How about how about the greatest Glad bro No, I
was gonna say then you had ever since Walls?

Speaker 2 (44:06):
You say other, but you know that's always been the case.
And what what's unique about?

Speaker 6 (44:13):
And it's crazy how like you'll have amazing high school
athletes that blue chips go to college, don't pan out.
Then you get guys from the Division two level like, uh,
people forget Walter Payton and Jerry Rice were not Division.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
One football players, and Charles Haley, Yeah, you went.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
To JMU I think, right Madison, but the league suits
them better. You know.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
It's kind of like, uh, in high school you didn't
get good grades, but then people go to college and
college just that that format, so you're not you know,
there are better students in college than they were.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
In high school because you know, they don't have to
be up at six a m.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
The the There there are ways that sometimes you know,
guys that we think are going to be great.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I just saw something.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
The first number one picks at the past since nineteen
ninety nine, only three won a Super Bowl that were starters,
and there was one I think it was Carr was
a backup and won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
But the first pick in the twenty five years or
twenty six years, you know, you've only had three won
super Bowls.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
Then you had the reactions to people when when you know,
Kansas City drafted Patrick.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Mahomes, they hated it, they hated the Bills.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Fans were up in arms about Josh Allen. You know,
it's like it's crazy that like, if you really do
your research and you look up first round picks. I'm
not even just talking about quarterbacks. Look at the first
round picks of the last twenty years and tell me
how many in the league panned out.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
It's not a lot. It's not a lot.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
These guys are found, These diamonds in the rough are
found either later on in the draft, like the almighty
Dak Prescott in.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
The fourth round, or you know, or like Tom Brady
in the sixth. You know, I'm comparing the two.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Uh No, But what I'm saying is a lot of
these guys are found later or undrafted or just you.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Just do some fucking homework.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Not because of the fact that they went to a
big ass school. Right with their big as school, they're
on TV every week. You know, they have their own
brand now, and now, now more than ever, guys are
walking into the draft. I had a buddy of mine
text me. He's like, hey man, he's not as a
big an NFL fan as we all are, but he goes,
hey man, I remember back in the day, guys, would
you know they would need to be drafted in order

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to purchase their first really nice suit. I was like, well,
things have changed, these guys, some of these guys are
walking into the draft millionaires already, you know what I mean,
because of the nil shit. So there's a lot of
different characteristics and that's why I love what Brian Schottenheimer
is selling me. And again, maybe I'm just drinking the
koolid right now in April, but what I'm saying is
all the people that they've drafted, they've they've emphasized character,

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they've emphasized their love for football. Like the guys won't
leave the field, the guys won't keep training, the guys
will put the extra reps in the hours in the
film rooms.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Those guys they love the game. And then you got
guys is that might slip to the fifth round because
they should. They think their ship doesn't stink, you know.
So there's there's there's definitely.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Character at this level is very important.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
Absolutely, Like the kid at the Patriots drafted, he was crying,
I'm gonna die.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Quarterback right like, and that's what you need.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
What was that kid's name, Will Campbell? I think it
was the lineman, Yeah, for Wilson, I think.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
But you know that's that's that is the factor of success.
Once you get to the NFL, you you get those
and that's why you know, you never know. I mean
we I've been watching this long enough and been excited
and disappointed and surprised.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
But the.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
The determining factor is how is your organizational organization run?

Speaker 4 (47:53):
And you know, well, look, I know we haven't had
success in thirty years. And when I say success, a
super Bowl. But if you go to those stupid little
poles that they do every year and they're like, who's
the best owner when it comes to family and team building,
all it's Jerry Jones.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
It's not close, right, That's why I brought up. But
that's why I brought up. And Sanders wasn't drafted. Jerry
Jones would have drafted him in the seventh round. I
think absolutely, yeah, absolutely he would.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Have even if you trade that that fifth or sixth
pick whatever they did for the Joe Milton Junior so fine,
and he's the third stringer, but he's still a cowboylay
still selling jerseys. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
We need to address to backup, Well, they have.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
No they have Milton. Now, I think he's gonna be
all right. Yeah, Milton looks Milton looks good. And then
you got my my main man, Will Grier.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Milton's going to be the starter before the year's gone.
Oh Christ, Sorry, we'll talk about that other time.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Please, because I can't. I'm not. I can't do that.
It's hot enough up here in this attic right now.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
I can't do It's all right, because I was I
was traveling, we were on a text.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I landed all.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
Hell broke loose and.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
And it was just hell, yeah, well you know what, listen.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Overall, what are you are?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
You?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Well, let me start, Keith. Are you happy with this draft?

Speaker 5 (49:11):
Sure, as I am every other one. I don't know,
you know, yeah, I'm happy with it. We got good players.
We got good players.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
So you can't you can't get right.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
You can't be mad at the caliber of player that
you got exact when they got them. Meaning a lot
of these guys were touted to be you know, later
round draft picks or earlier around draft picks, and you
wound up stealing them.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Right, that could be great. That could be great.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
And what you need to do is you need to
build a team. And I understand there's no doubt in
my mind and everything A Keith has ever said or
harped on as far as we can't stop the run.
We need a fucking defense. We need a linebacker. I
am in wholehearted agreement with that. There's no part of
me that thinks, well, I'd rather add seventeen tight ends first,
then we can drive, you know what I mean? Like, No,

(49:58):
it's it's very simple, it's science. It's it's how to
build a team. You gotta have both sides of the ball.
And if and I'm again, will I be little stirching
on Dak Prescott again this year? I'm going to try
to refrain. I love Dak the kid, I said, kid,
he's fucking thirty.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Now.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
I love the character that he is.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
I love that everything he does on and off the field,
he just seems like a very big team leader guy. However,
we are now you know he was drafted in twenty sixteen.
We're going into twenty twenty five season. This has been
ten years of Dak Prescott not being able to deliver
us anything more than a playoff win here and there.
So I can't get excited about Dak right now. Will

(50:37):
I get excited when draft? When the when you know,
when the mini camp starts and he's fucking throwing laser
beams to all these guys, you're like, whoa, that's it ceedee.
Lamb just posted a video the other day like, oh
I got four back. Now you guys are on fucking notice.
And I'm just like okay, you.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Know, like and in my mind I'm like, yeah, man, yeah,
But at the same time, I'm like, yeah, that's fucking okay.
Well you had them last year too, you know what
I mean. Like, so I'm a little bit pulled back
on the DAK stuff. Reserved have you? I guess it's
a better word, but like, are you fucking happy with
the I'm happy? I know, God forbid, I talked for
a living.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
I'm happy with the draft because of the fact that
I know that they address certain things to A help
back out a little bit, meaning the offensive line, and
then B got some more defenders on that team, got
a neg rusher that could rush the quarterback. And like
you guys both said and harp on this team, the
twenty twenty five Dallas Cowboys, I feel, along with you
guys are built through the defense. That's how we're gonna

(51:32):
win football games this year. So keep building the defense.
Get me more linebackers, get me more, get me over
shown back on the field get me digs back on
the field. I'll give a fuck, like, just get them
back on the field and see what happened.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
To getting the light?

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Getting the light.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
My opinion is is was the draft a good draft?
Or are we gonna be known for what we did
not do right?

Speaker 2 (51:54):
And in hindsight, I look back, people were gone that
weren't available. You have two options here.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
You're either gonna draft for need or you gonna draft
for the best guys on your board.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
It's it's a damned if you do damned if you
don't scenario. I am happy that.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
We addressed we did that, we got who we got
and uh and I like the fact that they're just like,
fuck it, We'll roll with who who Who's on the
team now.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
As far as the.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
I've been a fan longer than both of you, not
much longer than Keith. I'm just tired of trying to
figure the scene out. I'm glad I'm alive just to
see another draft. And you know, I'm pretty sure we're
gonna be disappointed again this year.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
So yeah, for everybody that says disappointment, you got guys
that are just like, well, no, no, man, you hated
that you added Jaden Blue. Now the Cowboys can score points,
and now they're gonna be a sneaky team.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
The Cowboys are a part of all the clicks in
the world. That we get that part.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
We just covered the team the best we we could
as fans. You know, we're not in there fucking in
the in the film room. Yeah, no, I think everybody is.
I think everybody's very groo.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
We could have drafted Cam, we could have drafted Golden whatever,
so we could have drafted every and I'd still be like, Okay, well.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
You know we still have to Hey. You know what, though, Brett.
Good thing for you that in two weeks from now
we can do our very first installment of win loss,
win loss, win loss, because the schedule will drop on
May the fourteenth, we will be back to drop all
of our knowledge and give our May predictions on win
loss records. The ones that night, Well, I think I

(53:36):
think that's going to go to either the Chiefs or
not the Chiefs or Washington. I think, yeah, I think Washington.
I got this weird feeling. I got this weird feeling,
and this this is a good thing for me because
I've made a promise to myself. I don't buy a
lot of things for myself anymore. I got kids.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
It just doesn't it doesn't happen as much. But I'm
going to Vegas this year. I skipped WrestleMania. I'm going
to Vegas this year for the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
To meet the Raiders. I got this weird sinking feeling
that it's Sunday night football week one. That's just that's
I have no rumors. I have no rumors or a
weekend too.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
I always go every weekend open and weekend.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Bro, because you got Ashton Genty, who should have been
a cowboy, right, you got him to run the rock.
You got the fucking new quarterback there, and Gino Smith
new coaching, Pete Carroll new coach against Dallas new quarterback.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
But the stories right themselves. I think it might be.
It might be.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I hope it's not, because then it's gonna be hard
for us to get takens. We need, we need to
wait until both teams, we.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Need, we need, we need Dallas to be around four
and seven, and then the tickets will be.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
We're gonna be at the circle watching game with.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Dude. I've seen, I've seen, I've seen pictures of that
I have to do this.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
I have to you hit him. Bro, listen both to
both the Sturch brothers and the Ernst brothers at a
raider game. Bro, no one's gonna.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Touch up happening, Baby, it's happening. I got a spirit clear,
that's happening. Boy, You dude, Brett has gotten the first
actual dose of the Starch boys together, and you add
the tree known as Coach Keith Ernst. Fuck, man, it's
gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Richie, here's a question, who's crazy out of you or
your brother? Because you're both kind of insane. Who's who's
the craziest all right?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Lately? I think it's I think he gets a little
bit more angrier than I do.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Like I got.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
I I'm more like when they go down seven nothing,
I'm just like, you gotta be kidding me. But when
they go down seven nothing and Danny's in the room,
like Danny's what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Are they doing?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
You know?

Speaker 5 (55:39):
I love this kid.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Listen, dude, he is he is a trip uh and
and we are gonna.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Be Brett won't be able to sit with us three
though I don't think he apparently could sit with me
and my brother. I warned you about that. He was
here's why, get why, But but we enjoy a game
is certain way.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, No, realize that we're in a we're in a
section that a buddy gave us tickets for. That's this.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Oh you could tell no, no, no, you can tell
you if.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
We're going to the Regilar game, we're gonna probably get
these tickets in a suite with like casino owner CEO
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Right, So we just have to act like adults.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
I don't have to sit with my favorite, my favorite
part of this day to day to this day. We're
beating the breaks off the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
We're like, we're the game is in hand, We're we're
recovering fumbo scooping score touchdowns. We're going fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Right, it's like third and seven, we're up by like
thirty third and seven, we don't convert, and Danny and
me are like, what the fucking and Brent looks at
me like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Guys?
When we won? The fuck we're winning the game, what's
wrong with you?

Speaker 4 (56:53):
And it's just you know, and that was it. The
rest is history. We made it through the game and
we had a great time. Shout out to the Big
j Security guy. Shout out shout out to as soon as.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I'm gonna, I'll get to work.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
I gotta I gotta go, guys.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, another great episode of the
Jersey Boys podcast. The Draft comes and goes. Hope you
like our critiques and are all that good ship until
next time. The draft is over and next thing up
the schedule release, Ladies and gentlemen, This has been another.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Episode of the Jersey Boys podcast. See you guys next time.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Hey, this is Tony Soprano and you're listening to Jersey
Boys Podcasts with your host Dave start Show and the
Urge Boys. I mean, I can give a shit about
the Cowboys when New Jersey. These guys got bulls being
Cowboys fans in Jersey. Anyways, Enjoy well, whatever